If you feel up for giving the repair a go yourself, feel free to hit me up, could make some kinda colab out of it 😎 and we can look at the differences in the protection circuits between these newer amps and the older koreans
Marts actually had me send it back to them but I do think this is a great idea! A video going over how protection circuits work and the differences between the ones is these amps vs Koreans would be super interesting
Shout out to Parker for keeping it real.. I did take care of him with sending him another 16500 amp and also a 200x4 amp. When you are sending that much power to a speaker and i believe it was way more than 6,ooo and the SMD just didn't update and the speaker dead shorts, well it is like welding and also though the should of went into protect well there are times that the dead short just pops all circuits at one time and being that he has so much lithium power well we are talking meltdown. Have any of you popped a speaker and the cap ( Blass Blocker ) blows? it makes a sound like a gun shot.. I think this is a lesson to us all about being safe especially when driving. Now if you youtube this you will see that many brands amps speakers have cought on fire.. Also to also update something to you all.. Marts is brazillian design but are made in china.. Now we have sold several pallets worth in a short amount of time and i will say we have very few returns and only 2 that did catch on fire and this is over thousands of amps and the other amp we got back was hooked up to serval woofers already wired to under 1 ohm which is not recommended.. So it does not matter what amp brand it can happen and then can pop and spoke. so be careful when you step up in the 10K world, it is like using a welder. And big shout out to parker for keeping it real. Finally when we ship these big amps we do the best we can to ship them safe but UPS, FEDX and USPS can be very ruff with our boxes and things can get nocked loose.. Buy the time you all see this video parker will have new amps worth several thousands dollars and that is the customer service we provide and us showing how we support parkers channel..
Yeah man that is great customer service! I got some good deals on open box lithium from you guys so I am surprised you take back the returns that you do.. but i guess sometimes people just change their mind or order the wrong thing.. I always like getting open box items for a good deal myself so it works out good for people like myself.. . Anyways, regarding these amps, Are these as reliable as the Korean designs?
Jeff, thanks for helping Parker out! I'm pretty sure people have suggested to Parker that he should check into a half bridge amp. Big power and more abuse. Just a thought.
My Soundigital 4k was a beast and had a great protection circuit. I've blown subs with it, disconnected speaker wire and Rca's while it was on, ran it down to 11.9 volts multiple times 😅 and it still slammed.
I'm a lot older than all you guys and still a basehead. In my day, a $1000 amp ($2150 in today money) would get you maybe a 500 watt amp. Granted, that was a much truer rating than the ridiculous shit they claim now. Then, most amps were rated true RMS and only 4 ohm. Some rated at 8 & 4, but almost none rated at 2. Only a few rich guys would run at 2 though they seemed to hold up ok. I would sell my soul to go back in time with any of the monster setups Parker has built for us. Hell, I would sell my soul for a decent system in my truck less than 1/4 this size Keep dropping Parker, we love it
Your reaction when your amp blew was hilarious dude. It is fortunate that Mart is stepping up here. I am not sure however that if you didn't have your channel and a great advocate if you would have received the service you did.
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I had that happen to me back in the day. I had a 2000w Audiobaun flame Q Amp hooked up to 2 old school 12" eclipse d2's. That amp was a beast!! I had it close to 10 years playing and banging, then one day on my way to work it went up in smoke. Dude, that was a sad sad day for me. When your amp burned, my chest sank and I yelled out noooo right there with you!
I had that amp too, with the vu meters on it. I had it pushing a flame q 12 in the audiobahn teardrop box. That system beat for years... Until it didn't. The sub killed the amp or the amp killed the sub, not sure which. I do wish I'd known about recones back then though. The basket on that sub was 🔥 (get it) 😁 Anyways, thanks for bringing up a bittersweet memory.
The one positive thing to take from this is how awesome the car audio industry is and the people in it, usually if something does go wrong like this the company or the retailer is willing to work with you to either repair it or replace it and this goes for woofers and amplifiers! So yes the bigger amps and subs are quite expensive but you only have to buy it once and it is much much better to have more power on tap than you need than if you were to be overworking and trying to squeeze out every last watt from your smaller amp because clipping/dirty audio signal/dirty power/low voltage are all things that can damage woofers way faster than overpowering them! Then once a woofer is damaged the amps protection circuit is put to the test and who knows if it will save your amp or not just isn't worth the gamble to me...
The crazy thing to me is why would the spider come loose add 6500 watts when is rated for 7500 RMS all day just goes to show you every subwoofer is not cracked up to what it supposed to be
Dammm... Loved the video bro, your right just when you think things are going good something will set you back and make you rethink..Gotta have BASS.....Never stop.....
Dude, you dont have to justify your sponsorship. Youve worked your a#$ off and good for you! If people don't want to watch the 10 second sponsor video they can skip forward. That being said, your content is 🔥, as shown in the last video!! Love it, keep it up Parker!
This actually doesn't discourage me from buying Marts equipment. I hate to say it, but you seem to have had nothing but trouble from that sub. Sometimes it's possible to go overkill and quality suffers, which seems to be the case with that custom built sub.
Dang i called it in the last video about this sub. Make sure the spiders dont come loose like the soundstream x3 that were known for this problem also. Took out the amp in smoke.
Nice im so glad your getting another one of those 13.5k Marts amp. That's nice of Big Jeff. I used to have a fullbridge Soundqubed 8k amp go out when I blew my 2 18" Soundqubed HDX3 subwoofers. I'm now running 2 2300rms watt halfbridge amps.
i feel like for the cost of the amps, the protection circuits need to be up to par. my 140 dollar fosgate prime amps go into protect if i look at them funny. can't believe a 1000 dollar amp goes nuclear if it senses a blown coil. dangerous AF. full bridge still needs some improvements i see.
Sorry this happened to you man, but this did make me realize I should have a fire extinguisher in my new system. Hope you get things going again mah dude!
I just want to thank you for pointing out the necessity of having the proper safety equipement available right when and where you need it. This is such and overlooked aspect of car audio. When you are running any type of after wiring and amps there is always that chance. Always have at the least a pair of cutters and a small fire extinguisher within reach of your amplifiers. Thank you!
In this business, it's not normal for anyone to back up product. I think our team is planning on shutting down our current vendors and moving our purchases over to Big Jeff Audio. We have heard from some serious air movers that he has solid work ethic. After watching this, we all shook our heads. It is time. Las Vegas can piss off, Florida is where Chicago will be ordering from.
The brazilian amps switch currents too quickly for the protection circuitry to kick on before they self destruct. Thats all they run down here in south florida and they catch fire quite often
Yeah, that's a lie. As someone whose been in the bass scene in South Florida for over 15 years I can 10000%, say this is a lie. Only time they blow or have issues is if you aren't running the proper electrical. But, even then alot of big boy Amps not named Sundown would. The catch on fire thing is rare and I feel bad for Parker.
@beyondthedetails i have a full 45,000 sq ft build house making amplifiers for a few companies which i cant disclose overseas. The only brazilian amp boards that dont switch currents are the small ones that have a texas instrument boards. The other ones switch currents too fast ,as in the electrical cant keep up i would think you being in the bass scene for 15 years you would know what that is . Power supplies are also on the lower end which is why so many go into protect mode and never reset. Anything bigger than the smart 3 run those power supplies I source them for pennies and the better power supply the one made in korea is only a few cents more in cost and taramps wont use them . Im also a distributor for over 600 different brands . I can show you a pallet of burnt taramps just from the jeep crew alone all running OFC cables and dual mechmans with banks and still they fry. New taramps versions will have upgraded power supplies and better power/speaker connections than the spade or undersized awg inputs. I have over 25 years in the game from installing to owning my own line which was all made in the USA before i sold it for a few mill and they still operate in florida just not made in the usa anymore.
Crowbarirng an amp at high or full output is quite dangerous to the amp and its power supply. Most if not all protect circuits cannot handle this because of the cardinal rule that a transistor is the fastest fuse known! Surprised that 12 doesn't use a neo magnet.
Glad to see this video as I commented on the previous video about wanting to know the actual cause.. It's a bummer that the sub took out the amp and it's even more of a bummer that the protection circuit didn't cut the power to the amp before catching fire.. in your video you can see the power light, clip light and protection light all come on and the amp continued to push power to the sub... As you said though, thankfully the amp fire didn't spread to the lithium! Were there any fuses between the amp and battery bank? I would think they would've popped when the amp shorted out and caught fire if there were.. If you intend to install fuses between the amp and the sub to protect the amp I believe the mathematical equation used is total wattage divided by the output voltage. So say you're running a 15k amp at 1 ohm, a 125-130a A/C rated fuse or breaker would be sufficient and would disconnect the sub from the amp in the case that the sub blows. Good luck man, love the videos! Been testing different subs myself and though I mainly run 15's I've been beating on a Orion HCCA 122 lately and recently metered a 144db @ 40hz on a 1500w amp
I had a small system in my car, driving along and started smelling that panic inducing electrical fire smell. I crossed 5 lanes of traffic in 1.7 seconds, got my truck open to smoke, the MTX 81000D took out a Rockford P3 and I was sure it a full 12 alarm meltdown! 😂 No matter what that smell can snap you out of a coma if you know anything about electrical.
It looks like it was the input side of the amp that blew? To me this seems like it has nothing to do with the sub but only the amp itself but I dont really know u should ask Williston Audio Labs he could probably tell if it was because of the sub or a problem in the amp
This is why I laugh hard when people deliberately roast speakers. Its like gambling at the roulette wheel, except the possibilities are only lose, or lose even more expensively
Thanks for the update Parker. Yeah those big ole Brazilian amps pump out the power but are finicky lol. And nothing wrong with throwing up DB, they make some bad azz subs.
I was thinking about asking where you were going to repair this, as I have a classic amplifier that had a similar fate (board is pretty burnt) but as you sent it back do you know of any possible amp repair sites/people?
Biggest lesson i feel is stay away from that sub/brand. It failed twice now and claimed an amp. Im guessing since the amp killer sub isnt doing its own ratings it not a good buy.
Hey, I'm glad your whole system wasn't ruined and I'm glad your car didn't burn down or you didn't get hurt in the process. I had a bad experience with a battery that came loose from its mount and short circuited in the trunk and I couldn't get the wire off and I had to breathe the burning battery well I was removing the power cords from the battery
Hey man i have a skar rp800 and it started making a whining noise and overheating, it plays for a little then goes into protect and starts clipping my sub was wondering if you had any idea what it could be I know its none of my connections. I would buy another amp but I dont have the money for it so I was wondering if you might have an idea what it could be so I can fix it. Thankyou
Quick question, If a sub fails (while being used within specification, clean power, not higher than the sub is designed for) and takes out an amp, is the sub manufacturer liable for the damage?
I honestly don't think the amp was shit, I think what you described about the sub shorting out caused it. Especially shorting out with that much power going through it. Hopefully you'll get it warrantied and this saga will continue!
Without watching this I'll assume gluing the spider back into place caused the voice coil to rub then short out could be wrong I'll find out in a minute tho as I'm watching it now
@@ParkerTheBasshead guarantee that's what happened. That's why I like you Parker. You don't act like you know everything and keep putting yourself out there I'm letting people know hey I ain't perfect and I don't ever claimed to know everything. I learn new shit everyday everybody does
Love your channel & your efforts Parker but like you said it was your rebuild of sub that malfunction that killed the amp amp definitely should of went into protect mode & shut off Glad your Sequoia didn't end up being a car bbq Happy about the growth of your channel 🚙🔊💨b💨a💨s💨s🔥🔥o🔥n🔥
Unfortunately that is a poorly designed subwoofer. It's never going to stay together Way too many spiders, giving such a stiff compliance, and not a large enough spider landing on the basket, with so much motor force. It needs a 4 layer spider and a bolt down spider clamp ring, to even remotely stay together.
I blew a JP95 a while back. Sub went from 2 ohm to 0 ohm and killed the sub channel on the amp. Down4Sound replaced the amp for me but I was really disappointed that the sub output didn't go into protect.
good amps usually don't blow, i have amps in my closet from the 90's that have been shorted under voltage, but still work like brand new, new amps are junk.
Most likely output section went and that took the power supply section witch the mosfets in the power supply act as a direct short from the positive to ground.
I'm super disappointed by this set of MTX 12"s in a sealed box I just bought. They work, but they get hot and don't perform a quarter as well as my Audiobahn AW1206t 12"'s do, on exactly the same amp. I'd much prefer to swap the MTX's for a good 15', ported. Is this a good move, or should I just stay with 12's and go dual ported boxes?
When testing high powered equipment like this could you put some accurately rated fuses on the amps speaker outputs going to and from the sub? I seen a lot of home audio speakers that have a fused link, sometimes it’s mounted in the crossover or just on the back of the cabinet.
am i the only one who started to laugh out loud as soon as i seen the fire coming from the fan? i love the fact that he "fixed" the sub with some glue on the spider and then proceeded to turn it up way to high and did his amp in. the phrase " cant fix stupid you can only hope to improve" really fits this video. how much equipment are you going to destroy? i hope you learned your lesson pecker the bass head.
That happens quite often with Generation Z kids his age with more money and resources than they know what to do with. They ALLL do it with equipment, electronics, cars, even property costing themselves many 10s of thousands of dollars through out their 20s-30s until one day they snap out of that shit when life catches up to them lol.
Damn bro shit happens hope that never happens to me never know tho I know sundowns protection circuitry on there amp r really good have blown a few subs on it and had battery n ground cables connect before because of bad rear end accident and it still a tank beatn the block 🤣❤️
When you opened the Amp up all I can think was "barevids would love to get his hands on this amp" and just like, speak of the devil and he shall come in the comments section lol 😅😅 a collab on protection circuitry would be a great video like you mentioned. On another note, you mentioned you bought 2 18" subs to hook up to that amp. Outta curiosity, what subs were they?? And as always another great video. I look forward to waking up on Sunday and see another new video in my notification bar
can you really say its the loudest sub when that score came from blowing up ??? also wats your thoughts on fusen the + wire from sub to amp would that help not to blow subs when amp blows ??? just a thought .......Great content as always...
If you feel up for giving the repair a go yourself, feel free to hit me up, could make some kinda colab out of it 😎 and we can look at the differences in the protection circuits between these newer amps and the older koreans
You're awesome. Great idea!
That would be a great collab
Marts actually had me send it back to them but I do think this is a great idea! A video going over how protection circuits work and the differences between the ones is these amps vs Koreans would be super interesting
You're the best Sam!
@@ParkerTheBasshead wow that's good of them, considering it was external cause!
Shout out to Parker for keeping it real.. I did take care of him with sending him another 16500 amp and also a 200x4 amp. When you are sending that much power to a speaker and i believe it was way more than 6,ooo and the SMD just didn't update and the speaker dead shorts, well it is like welding and also though the should of went into protect well there are times that the dead short just pops all circuits at one time and being that he has so much lithium power well we are talking meltdown. Have any of you popped a speaker and the cap ( Blass Blocker ) blows? it makes a sound like a gun shot.. I think this is a lesson to us all about being safe especially when driving. Now if you youtube this you will see that many brands amps speakers have cought on fire.. Also to also update something to you all.. Marts is brazillian design but are made in china.. Now we have sold several pallets worth in a short amount of time and i will say we have very few returns and only 2 that did catch on fire and this is over thousands of amps and the other amp we got back was hooked up to serval woofers already wired to under 1 ohm which is not recommended.. So it does not matter what amp brand it can happen and then can pop and spoke. so be careful when you step up in the 10K world, it is like using a welder. And big shout out to parker for keeping it real. Finally when we ship these big amps we do the best we can to ship them safe but UPS, FEDX and USPS can be very ruff with our boxes and things can get nocked loose.. Buy the time you all see this video parker will have new amps worth several thousands dollars and that is the customer service we provide and us showing how we support parkers channel..
Yeah man that is great customer service! I got some good deals on open box lithium from you guys so I am surprised you take back the returns that you do.. but i guess sometimes people just change their mind or order the wrong thing.. I always like getting open box items for a good deal myself so it works out good for people like myself.. . Anyways, regarding these amps, Are these as reliable as the Korean designs?
Jeff, thanks for helping Parker out! I'm pretty sure people have suggested to Parker that he should check into a half bridge amp. Big power and more abuse. Just a thought.
Shit happens in the bass world. I’ve had RFs catch on fire, JLs quit, etc etc. keep it moving y’all. #bassheadsunite
I've had cheap pyramid amps back in the 90s they never caught fire😂
@@PeterFeltersnatch852 true, but shit gets wild either way. Bump on 🤝
PSA. If you do big stereo or even just hot rod stuff gotta have a fire extinguisher at hand. Fuses won’t always save your car.
That scream is 100% authentic! You can feel the despair!
My Soundigital 4k was a beast and had a great protection circuit. I've blown subs with it, disconnected speaker wire and Rca's while it was on, ran it down to 11.9 volts multiple times 😅 and it still slammed.
I've done all of those things with my skar rp-3500 lol. But i get your point. I'll check soundigital out and see what they've got!
Most of the amps i had could run at 10v or even 9.5v 24/7 without any issues. So running at 11.9 is not impressive at all.
I'm a lot older than all you guys and still a basehead. In my day, a $1000 amp ($2150 in today money) would get you maybe a 500 watt amp. Granted, that was a much truer rating than the ridiculous shit they claim now. Then, most amps were rated true RMS and only 4 ohm. Some rated at 8 & 4, but almost none rated at 2. Only a few rich guys would run at 2 though they seemed to hold up ok. I would sell my soul to go back in time with any of the monster setups Parker has built for us. Hell, I would sell my soul for a decent system in my truck less than 1/4 this size
Keep dropping Parker, we love it
Your reaction when your amp blew was hilarious dude. It is fortunate that Mart is stepping up here. I am not sure however that if you didn't have your channel and a great advocate if you would have received the service you did.
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That is awesome man! I started out with my own shop back in the day! Best of luck man 💪🏼🔊
Kinda glad you’re showing it all! Didn’t expect that, but nice to see!
I had that happen to me back in the day. I had a 2000w Audiobaun flame Q Amp hooked up to 2 old school 12" eclipse d2's. That amp was a beast!! I had it close to 10 years playing and banging, then one day on my way to work it went up in smoke. Dude, that was a sad sad day for me. When your amp burned, my chest sank and I yelled out noooo right there with you!
I had that amp too, with the vu meters on it. I had it pushing a flame q 12 in the audiobahn teardrop box. That system beat for years... Until it didn't. The sub killed the amp or the amp killed the sub, not sure which. I do wish I'd known about recones back then though. The basket on that sub was 🔥 (get it) 😁 Anyways, thanks for bringing up a bittersweet memory.
@@RobertD_83 The blue LEDs. Lol
Yes sir, it had the vu meter and it started working the whole time😁
The one positive thing to take from this is how awesome the car audio industry is and the people in it, usually if something does go wrong like this the company or the retailer is willing to work with you to either repair it or replace it and this goes for woofers and amplifiers! So yes the bigger amps and subs are quite expensive but you only have to buy it once and it is much much better to have more power on tap than you need than if you were to be overworking and trying to squeeze out every last watt from your smaller amp because clipping/dirty audio signal/dirty power/low voltage are all things that can damage woofers way faster than overpowering them! Then once a woofer is damaged the amps protection circuit is put to the test and who knows if it will save your amp or not just isn't worth the gamble to me...
Should go over the importance of fire extinguishers. You reacted so fast. Should everyone keep fire extinguishers in there vehicles?
The crazy thing to me is why would the spider come loose add 6500 watts when is rated for 7500 RMS all day just goes to show you every subwoofer is not cracked up to what it supposed to be
Blowing amps means you can get a new one you've been drooling over. Keep bassin on!
That's super cool of Big Jeff. 👍🏻
That fire extinguisher dust is super corrosive keep an eye on anything it touched.
Sketchy Brand, Sketchy Circuitry.
ALL BAD BRO! I just blew one of my 8Ks. luckily I had a backup! It'll be going to the shop soon
It really hurt my heart to see that beautiful amp blow but I know you will have bigger and better ones to come bro keep up the awesome videos👍🏽
Dammm... Loved the video bro, your right just when you think things are going good something will set you back and make you rethink..Gotta have BASS.....Never stop.....
Dude, you dont have to justify your sponsorship. Youve worked your a#$ off and good for you! If people don't want to watch the 10 second sponsor video they can skip forward. That being said, your content is 🔥, as shown in the last video!! Love it, keep it up Parker!
This actually doesn't discourage me from buying Marts equipment. I hate to say it, but you seem to have had nothing but trouble from that sub. Sometimes it's possible to go overkill and quality suffers, which seems to be the case with that custom built sub.
put it towards a new amp
I really appreciate you man!!!
Dang i called it in the last video about this sub. Make sure the spiders dont come loose like the soundstream x3 that were known for this problem also. Took out the amp in smoke.
Unfortunately, that is the difficulty with Frankenstein Subs.
Nice im so glad your getting another one of those 13.5k Marts amp. That's nice of Big Jeff. I used to have a fullbridge Soundqubed 8k amp go out when I blew my 2 18" Soundqubed HDX3 subwoofers. I'm now running 2 2300rms watt halfbridge amps.
Parker gave us a spoiler -- two 18s coming to his channel.
Can't wait 💪💪💪😎👌
i feel like for the cost of the amps, the protection circuits need to be up to par. my 140 dollar fosgate prime amps go into protect if i look at them funny. can't believe a 1000 dollar amp goes nuclear if it senses a blown coil. dangerous AF. full bridge still needs some improvements i see.
Because Rockford fosgate is a quality amp
Also check out surge amplifiers they are military grade and just a bit more than full bridge amps but are amazing quality
That's shows tara amps where it's at..gotta love when you're protect works 💪
Yep Taramps survived a dead short and multiple other protect scenarios.
That's exactly why iv bought 8 of those amps there protection protect is a little better
Sorry this happened to you man, but this did make me realize I should have a fire extinguisher in my new system. Hope you get things going again mah dude!
I just want to thank you for pointing out the necessity of having the proper safety equipement available right when and where you need it. This is such and overlooked aspect of car audio. When you are running any type of after wiring and amps there is always that chance. Always have at the least a pair of cutters and a small fire extinguisher within reach of your amplifiers. Thank you!
In this business, it's not normal for anyone to back up product. I think our team is planning on shutting down our current vendors and moving our purchases over to Big Jeff Audio. We have heard from some serious air movers that he has solid work ethic. After watching this, we all shook our heads. It is time. Las Vegas can piss off, Florida is where Chicago will be ordering from.
The brazilian amps switch currents too quickly for the protection circuitry to kick on before they self destruct. Thats all they run down here in south florida and they catch fire quite often
Yeah, that's a lie. As someone whose been in the bass scene in South Florida for over 15 years I can 10000%, say this is a lie. Only time they blow or have issues is if you aren't running the proper electrical. But, even then alot of big boy Amps not named Sundown would. The catch on fire thing is rare and I feel bad for Parker.
@beyondthedetails i have a full 45,000 sq ft build house making amplifiers for a few companies which i cant disclose overseas. The only brazilian amp boards that dont switch currents are the small ones that have a texas instrument boards. The other ones switch currents too fast ,as in the electrical cant keep up i would think you being in the bass scene for 15 years you would know what that is . Power supplies are also on the lower end which is why so many go into protect mode and never reset. Anything bigger than the smart 3 run those power supplies I source them for pennies and the better power supply the one made in korea is only a few cents more in cost and taramps wont use them . Im also a distributor for over 600 different brands . I can show you a pallet of burnt taramps just from the jeep crew alone all running OFC cables and dual mechmans with banks and still they fry. New taramps versions will have upgraded power supplies and better power/speaker connections than the spade or undersized awg inputs. I have over 25 years in the game from installing to owning my own line which was all made in the USA before i sold it for a few mill and they still operate in florida just not made in the usa anymore.
@@enzos9211 Sure you can. Lol. Funny.
@beyondthedetails not being funny but i sure can be. You're more than welcome to pass by and I'll show you around we're off the 836 in doral.
Crowbarirng an amp at high or full output is quite dangerous to the amp and its power supply. Most if not all protect circuits cannot handle this because of the cardinal rule that a transistor is the fastest fuse known! Surprised that 12 doesn't use a neo magnet.
Wow that took the entire power supply out
Wow what a bummer but at least the whole truck didn’t go up in flames
Glad to see this video as I commented on the previous video about wanting to know the actual cause..
It's a bummer that the sub took out the amp and it's even more of a bummer that the protection circuit didn't cut the power to the amp before catching fire.. in your video you can see the power light, clip light and protection light all come on and the amp continued to push power to the sub...
As you said though, thankfully the amp fire didn't spread to the lithium!
Were there any fuses between the amp and battery bank? I would think they would've popped when the amp shorted out and caught fire if there were..
If you intend to install fuses between the amp and the sub to protect the amp I believe the mathematical equation used is total wattage divided by the output voltage. So say you're running a 15k amp at 1 ohm, a 125-130a A/C rated fuse or breaker would be sufficient and would disconnect the sub from the amp in the case that the sub blows.
Good luck man, love the videos!
Been testing different subs myself and though I mainly run 15's I've been beating on a Orion HCCA 122 lately and recently metered a 144db @ 40hz on a 1500w amp
good mindset dude, i would be pissed for months and terrified to hook up another subs
AmpLab still do repairs?
I had a small system in my car, driving along and started smelling that panic inducing electrical fire smell. I crossed 5 lanes of traffic in 1.7 seconds, got my truck open to smoke, the MTX 81000D took out a Rockford P3 and I was sure it a full 12 alarm meltdown! 😂 No matter what that smell can snap you out of a coma if you know anything about electrical.
Man bro I know the pain first time hooking up my hcca 3000.1 DSP LX it went up in flames. Digital driver board went out and some MOSFETs
JP just needs to send you a JP83. Problem fixed!
This woulda been a handy time for breakers over fuses ... i think
Yeah you blew up your Taramps multiple times! Crazy stuff man
Love the Jerry ain't loud sticker
It looks like it was the input side of the amp that blew? To me this seems like it has nothing to do with the sub but only the amp itself but I dont really know u should ask Williston Audio Labs he could probably tell if it was because of the sub or a problem in the amp
This is why I laugh hard when people deliberately roast speakers. Its like gambling at the roulette wheel, except the possibilities are only lose, or lose even more expensively
Hey man, maybe send this to barevids. Maybe he can do a cool video on it.
Barevids only takes amps from the UK
@@SailingAnja i think you are right, shame.
What's funny is he commented on here about wanting to work something out with Parker... You called it.
Thanks for the update Parker. Yeah those big ole Brazilian amps pump out the power but are finicky lol. And nothing wrong with throwing up DB, they make some bad azz subs.
Hope everything works out for you brother. Would like to see more info on those amps.
Yessir it’s all good!
4 plus years on a soundigital evo 4k. And it was well used when I got it
I was thinking about asking where you were going to repair this, as I have a classic amplifier that had a similar fate (board is pretty burnt) but as you sent it back do you know of any possible amp repair sites/people?
Biggest lesson i feel is stay away from that sub/brand. It failed twice now and claimed an amp. Im guessing since the amp killer sub isnt doing its own ratings it not a good buy.
Yeah it happens to the best of us man. I always look at it as being an experience of car audio.
Hey, I'm glad your whole system wasn't ruined and I'm glad your car didn't burn down or you didn't get hurt in the process.
I had a bad experience with a battery that came loose from its mount and short circuited in the trunk and I couldn't get the wire off and I had to breathe the burning battery well I was removing the power cords from the battery
I felt that “Noooooooo!”
Definitely a huge fan of Deaf Bonce. Been pushing my Machete 12 on a Sundown 3k for a solid few years now and it's still as loud as the day I got it.
That thing almost went nuclear!
Hey man i have a skar rp800 and it started making a whining noise and overheating, it plays for a little then goes into protect and starts clipping my sub was wondering if you had any idea what it could be I know its none of my connections. I would buy another amp but I dont have the money for it so I was wondering if you might have an idea what it could be so I can fix it. Thankyou
Quick question, If a sub fails (while being used within specification, clean power, not higher than the sub is designed for) and takes out an amp, is the sub manufacturer liable for the damage?
no
I honestly don't think the amp was shit, I think what you described about the sub shorting out caused it. Especially shorting out with that much power going through it. Hopefully you'll get it warrantied and this saga will continue!
Without watching this I'll assume gluing the spider back into place caused the voice coil to rub then short out could be wrong I'll find out in a minute tho as I'm watching it now
Could be!
@@ParkerTheBasshead guarantee that's what happened. That's why I like you Parker. You don't act like you know everything and keep putting yourself out there I'm letting people know hey I ain't perfect and I don't ever claimed to know everything. I learn new shit everyday everybody does
You think you could review SP Audio? Cx series..
Love your channel & your efforts Parker
but like you said it was your rebuild of sub that malfunction that killed the amp
amp definitely should of went into protect mode & shut off
Glad your Sequoia didn't end up being a car bbq
Happy about the growth of your channel
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You could replace those transistors that are inside the amp and and the amp will be working like new
Nowhere near that easy, at that level traces were vaporized and who knows what else.
No dude the bord is bad
Glad they are going to RMA the amplifier. That's good to know.
Yes I was very surprised!
Yep. Them Alibaba amps will get ya every time! Good thing I went with a jp63 for about the same price.
Did ya get him to sign it to ya fkn goof
Love the videos hate to see that amp blow but it does happen from time to time that sub is a beast also can u do a video with the ds18 hooligan subs
Isn’t that the second time that the sub failed? That’s not good!! I would love to see you test a Nightshade v5 or the new v6😅😅
much love Parker
Back at you man! I appreciate it!
They should fix it. Free advertising. If Parker can't blow it up no one can
parker where did you get the little fire extingusher from ??
I can felt your pain in your voice when it blew it
Yeah you could tell it upset him quite a bit.
For real man! But it’s all good! I’m blessed I get to do what I do hear and I’m blessed to have awesome views
send it to barevids
lol the output stage looks ok looks more like the PS failed
Are you going to get another one
Just purchased a Marts 13k,cant wait to put it on my (3) Deaf Bonce 3512 @ 1 ohm in a fourth order blow threw.
You can afford nice subwoofers but cheap out on the amp...nice lol
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Unfortunately that is a poorly designed subwoofer. It's never going to stay together
Way too many spiders, giving such a stiff compliance, and not a large enough spider landing on the basket, with so much motor force. It needs a 4 layer spider and a bolt down spider clamp ring, to even remotely stay together.
Um related to this video parker u should try those new taramps subwoofers
I blew a JP95 a while back. Sub went from 2 ohm to 0 ohm and killed the sub channel on the amp. Down4Sound replaced the amp for me but I was really disappointed that the sub output didn't go into protect.
your lucky they warranteed that
Any company( Deaf Bonce) that blows off hot girls dresses are cool in my book!! Look like they have some beastly subs!
The american bass king does 6500 rms… it just came out
I was just asking about this amp , Brazil made I think
China copy of a SounDigital
good amps usually don't blow, i have amps in my closet from the 90's that have been shorted under voltage, but still work like brand new, new amps are junk.
Can't wait to see you do an automated smoke detector/sprinkler system with lights and sirens on your next build.
Most likely output section went and that took the power supply section witch the mosfets in the power supply act as a direct short from the positive to ground.
Some subs are made with a shorting ring so that don't happen when a sub blows it won't blow ur amp also
Shorting rings are to reduce eddy currents or unwanted inductance. It lowers distortion
Oh man, that sucks it happened to my amp. I used to power a sub in my amp
On my amp, I meant
I'm super disappointed by this set of MTX 12"s in a sealed box I just bought. They work, but they get hot and don't perform a quarter as well as my Audiobahn AW1206t 12"'s do, on exactly the same amp. I'd much prefer to swap the MTX's for a good 15', ported. Is this a good move, or should I just stay with 12's and go dual ported boxes?
you want 15's
Wow, u already push it to the max
When testing high powered equipment like this could you put some accurately rated fuses on the amps speaker outputs going to and from the sub? I seen a lot of home audio speakers that have a fused link, sometimes it’s mounted in the crossover or just on the back of the cabinet.
Hola, de cuántos pies o litros es el cajón para el subwoofer EM audio? Genial video.... Te agradecería por la información
am i the only one who started to laugh out loud as soon as i seen the fire coming from the fan? i love the fact that he "fixed" the sub with some glue on the spider and then proceeded to turn it up way to high and did his amp in. the phrase " cant fix stupid you can only hope to improve" really fits this video. how much equipment are you going to destroy? i hope you learned your lesson pecker the bass head.
That happens quite often with Generation Z kids his age with more money and resources than they know what to do with. They ALLL do it with equipment, electronics, cars, even property costing themselves many 10s of thousands of dollars through out their 20s-30s until one day they snap out of that shit when life catches up to them lol.
@@lanewarriorillridez3739if they live long enough to get to that point lol
@@KnowName33 life does have a harsh way of kicking many of them in their asses so good luck to the young and reckless.
Huge bummer man! Hope you are good though man. Can we see some synergy audio WFO amps?
Damn bro shit happens hope that never happens to me never know tho I know sundowns protection circuitry on there amp r really good have blown a few subs on it and had battery n ground cables connect before because of bad rear end accident and it still a tank beatn the block 🤣❤️
Heck yeah! Glad it’s held up for you
When you opened the Amp up all I can think was "barevids would love to get his hands on this amp" and just like, speak of the devil and he shall come in the comments section lol 😅😅 a collab on protection circuitry would be a great video like you mentioned.
On another note, you mentioned you bought 2 18" subs to hook up to that amp. Outta curiosity, what subs were they?? And as always another great video. I look forward to waking up on Sunday and see another new video in my notification bar
Do you have a link to the fire extinguisher that you keep on hand?
😏✌🏼i like Oldschool Korea Amps... way better than the Brazil Junk... 🙏🏼
can you really say its the loudest sub when that score came from blowing up ??? also wats your thoughts on fusen the + wire from sub to amp would that help not to blow subs when amp blows ??? just a thought .......Great content as always...