Kaspersky vs Windows Defender

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @pcsecuritychannel
    @pcsecuritychannel  Год назад +152

    FAQ and references: Is Kaspersky safe to use since its from Russia? My thoughts: ruclips.net/video/QfSJamWQPnM/видео.html
    Windows Defender vs Ransomware (with offline test): ruclips.net/video/ZbYx8V2RTjc/видео.html
    Kaspersky vs Ransomware: ruclips.net/video/R0Xf5dRN8cI/видео.html

    • @MVC88
      @MVC88 Год назад +20

      You forgot to mention Kaspersky is really good when it comes to detecting new versions of the same malware for example the new redline malware that recently got released ,Kaspersky was 1 of the only 2 AV to detect the malware and this was malware being pushed as an OBS install file and a lot of people fell for it as it was an ad pushed by Google ( first link most people click on by habit)

    • @draculemihawk10
      @draculemihawk10 Год назад +1

      @@MVC88 who was the other AV?
      Let me guess: not Bitdefender

    • @MVC88
      @MVC88 Год назад +6

      @@draculemihawk10 ZoneAlarm by check point

    • @draculemihawk10
      @draculemihawk10 Год назад +4

      @@MVC88 ok thx
      Surprised ESET didn't detect it,they are rly good on the 0 day threats

    • @realme1kc12
      @realme1kc12 Год назад +2

      Expected results from Kaspersky when it comes to PUPs

  • @Draxis32
    @Draxis32 Год назад +142

    Jesus Christ. Is this the last youtube channel to post a 13 minute video and by the first minute it's already straight to the point? No flashy entrance, no ad announcement, no BS intro. NOTHING! ZERO! NADA! I might be biased here but this is totally refreshing for me. I've been using youtube for such a long time and I'm so utterly tired of the same cookie cutter, max ad, max viewtime video model. "After a word from our sponsor!" Man that ages badly. Nothing like seeing straight up to the point precise and clear content!

    • @cornonthecobbob1.
      @cornonthecobbob1. 5 месяцев назад

      just use sponsorblock extension, i also use it.

  • @edwinpj7637
    @edwinpj7637 Год назад +1387

    A head to head test between ESET, Bitdefender and Kaspersky would be a great idea.

    • @RkoRohan
      @RkoRohan Год назад +14

      @SAVE VICARIOUS VISIONS why is that?

    • @maario__0
      @maario__0 Год назад +7

      @SAVE VICARIOUS VISIONS what is your reason to say that..?

    • @csongorszecska
      @csongorszecska Год назад +9

      ESET needs a lot of preparation just to run smoothly, it's not really ideal for a quick test like this...

    • @Xadethor
      @Xadethor Год назад +41

      ESET? That's at the same tier with Avast Avira AVG. If you want ESET, compare it with these 3. Kaspersky and Bitdefender are on a different league.

    • @repairman2be250
      @repairman2be250 Год назад

      What are you using now?

  • @stateofhumanmind
    @stateofhumanmind Год назад +164

    Using Kaspersky Internet Security for about 5 years now, and it has never failed. And it is now way lighter on system resources than before, so has minimum noticeable impact.

    • @alexbork4250
      @alexbork4250 Год назад +4

      Is it possible to purchase it nowadays? It's Russian software IIRC

    • @jreyes2464
      @jreyes2464 Год назад +4

      @@alexbork4250 yeah i have the same question. I only found some news saying that it is banned in the US.

    • @alexbork4250
      @alexbork4250 Год назад +33

      @@jreyes2464 it's banned in government/military organizations, but not for regular users

    • @Biedropegaz
      @Biedropegaz Год назад +1

      @@alexbork4250 smartusers will also ban it

    • @korana6308
      @korana6308 Год назад +2

      I agree. Same. The best AV.

  • @wannabedal-adx458
    @wannabedal-adx458 Год назад +856

    I think Windows Defender has come a long way. I also think that Microsoft puts more effort into the background function and less on the GUI and control functions of Defender. The reason being is that MOST people want to set it and forget it. They don't want to make decisions about different settings. Also they would likely not go looking for trouble and face a massive bombardment of malware like Leo does !!! 😉 So I think Windows Defender does it's job well given the usual operating preferences of its users. That said, it doesn't excuse the poor GUI and ransomware performance. Also would love to see a head to head of Bitdefender and Sophos, or Malwarebytes and Sophos!! Thanks

    • @pepeshopping
      @pepeshopping Год назад +35

      Correct. MS Defender keeps getting better but still years behind in performance (compare CPU usage against ESET).

    • @xslvrxslwt
      @xslvrxslwt Год назад +6

      "They don't want to make decisions about different settings" isn't it because the program isn't allowing you to 🤣🤣 brainwashed asf

    • @tezcanaslan2877
      @tezcanaslan2877 Год назад +6

      Windows Defender is definitely a antivirus I would recommend to tech-savvy people because of this.

    • @thechugg4372
      @thechugg4372 Год назад +12

      That's also his biggest weakness, by not having the user manually scan or have a big "CURRENTLY REMOVING VIRUSES TRUST ME" button, a lot of people think defender actively does nothing lmao

    • @WolfSaviorZX
      @WolfSaviorZX Год назад +7

      @@xslvrxslwt Most people wouldn't know what to click though

  • @error404th
    @error404th Год назад +409

    Defender really improves overtime. They really took the results from various test very seriously; in fact, they (Microsoft) need more effort to fix other issues to Defender and to impress Windows users to use Defender.

    • @metinhesenov
      @metinhesenov Год назад +45

      I think main issue is as stated in the video, Microsoft focuses too much on cloud powered security which is great but not ideal. If they took some time to improve local/offline security as well, results could have been much better.

    • @pepeshopping
      @pepeshopping Год назад +5

      Correct. MS Defender keeps getting better but still years behind in performance (compare CPU usage against ESET).

    • @Time_Developer
      @Time_Developer Год назад

      *All western anti-virus programs let through malware used by intelligence agencies.*

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Год назад +3

      I like the fact that the Defender works for its intended purpose and don't fuck the system. I mean, the only purpose for an anti-virus is to check mark a stupid bureaucracy at a company.
      [x] do you have an anti-virus

    • @eduespro
      @eduespro Год назад

      Can window defender/ window security be trusted to protect me?

  • @kyanoang3l0_old
    @kyanoang3l0_old Год назад +98

    As someone who encountered ransomware before, I was really hoping Defender got a lot better on that front. Gandcrab was my first (and hopefully last) encounter with RW. My VAIO died too soon on me so I was borrowing PCs and most of my files were on one HDD. One PC had GC. I'm usually extra cautious with my PCs (never got one infected since high school), but I was obviously not used to using others' PCs. I waited months before Bitdefender came up with a free decrypter. I've been super extra cautious since then, regardless of what AV the PC has.
    The PC's owner stuck with Defender as he was a user of MSE, which never failed him before. Tbf, MSE was a solid AV back then, and I actually recommended it before.

    • @michaelholopainen2822
      @michaelholopainen2822 Год назад

      M$ Defender is not made or does it defend YOU against malware. It only defends MICROSOFT against piracy. It only detects license key generator and crack and other license circumventing software.

    • @squarewheel9113
      @squarewheel9113 Год назад +2

      Thanks for sharing. Could you elaborate on bit defender creating a decryptor for you? What do you mean they made you a free decrypter? I know what it is I've just never heard of such a service.

    • @NopWorks
      @NopWorks Год назад

      ​@@squarewheel9113Probably not for him, just that after some months Bitdefender released a decryptor that coincidentally can decrypt his files.

  • @darthgoha
    @darthgoha Год назад +42

    By the way, in Russia here are two anti-virus products that compete since the 90s. This is Kaspersky and Dr.Web. The second one is not known abroad like Kaspersky, but it is also worthy of attention. But personally, I preferred Kaspersky almost from the very first versions.

    • @darthgoha
      @darthgoha 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@hartraven67 1. Nobody cares. 2. It's ok - keep using shitty antivirus then.

    • @mh7a135
      @mh7a135 7 месяцев назад

      ​@hartraven67 Kaspersky is better than your American malware "antivirus"

  • @BrianTaylor-AlwaysInTao
    @BrianTaylor-AlwaysInTao Год назад +67

    It might be a good idea to put a results page somewhere that reflects the best to worst in terms of AV performance against the widest possible margin of threats i.e. intrusion prevention, malware, sniffing, spoofing, etc so that a casual user of free AV products can get a basic idea of which vectors they should stay alert for.

  • @marks5777
    @marks5777 Год назад +20

    Side by side comparison like this and others you have done similarly I think are very useful

  • @megapangolin1093
    @megapangolin1093 Год назад +26

    Fascinating and helpful video, I really enjoyed listening to your calm, paced, educated narration, and lead us through the reality of what an attack looks like. Pleased that WD is good at normal threats, but very disappointed at the ransomware result. Seems to be only one solution to preventing the increasingly prevalent ransomware attacks and that is to get additional protection. What a shame.

    • @runnergo1398
      @runnergo1398 Год назад

      I once heard that there is a theory that some anti-virus programs pick up on certain viruses/malware more quickly than others because those viruses/malware were created by the anti-virus company trying to get more people to buy their product.

  • @malwaretestingfan
    @malwaretestingfan Год назад +25

    Happy new year, TPSC. I prefer Kaspersky to Defender, mainly because it has better heuristics.

  • @payback2crashes
    @payback2crashes Год назад +48

    For windows defender, you actually have controlled folder access feature, which prevents your files from being encrypted.

    • @NicolaDeIeso1987
      @NicolaDeIeso1987 Год назад +29

      You're right, but the problem with that features is that it blocks also legitimate software and services.

    • @BarafuAlbino
      @BarafuAlbino Год назад +3

      @user-fz8os2de6n Which means you will routinely allow every app and will likely allow the malware too. The fact that you can not remove "Documents" folder from the controlled list makes whole "access control" feature unusable.

    • @BarafuAlbino
      @BarafuAlbino Год назад +6

      @user-fz8os2de6n Defender adds "Documents" to the protected folders and does not allow to remove it from there. "Documents" is where almost all games store their save files, and many applications with long history store their configs there. You would need to allow them all past Defender's protection or they will not work. If you routinely allow all applications you run past the protection, you will allow the infected ones too.

    • @BaseNAND
      @BaseNAND Год назад +2

      @@BarafuAlbino Of course you should not just allow all applications, but it is indeed annoying that Documents is in there. This can be worked around though by using a symlink for the Documents. Windows still uses the real Documents folder, but 99% of all apps use the fake one. For me personally the Documents folder holds nothing of importance, so even if I accidently would allow malware to do stuff with the files in there I wouldn't really care.

    • @eduespro
      @eduespro Год назад +1

      Is window defender good?

  • @ravithej6665
    @ravithej6665 Год назад +36

    Please do a video of Windows Defender with hardened settings either by using ConfigureDefender(using high settings) or DefenderUI(using recommended profile) and Defender Sandbox enabled. Would love to see how it matches to its AV competitors. Looking forward for the video.

  • @timbounds7190
    @timbounds7190 Год назад +7

    Thanks for this video. I was a Kaspersky user on my previous Windows 10 PC, but had to replace my PC with a Windows 11 machine. The guy I bought the new PC from recommended that I relied on Windows Defender and NOT install 3rd party software, as he thought there would be a big impact on performance - he said they'd 'keep fighting each other' - whether that's true I don't know! I was wondering if anyone did notice performance dropping if Kaspersky was installed. I regularly get a malicious e-mail with no content but with something nasty in a PDF. I've noticed that Kaspersky (on the old PC) pounced on it before I'd even noticed the e-mail, but Defender doesn't flag it for me (obviously I just delete it), so I think Kaspersky is a good product.

    • @uwu_peter
      @uwu_peter Год назад

      Kaspersky automatically disables Windows Defender during Installation

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn Год назад +1

      @@uwu_peter
      No need for two

  • @dend1
    @dend1 Год назад +7

    Looking forwards to the next big showdown. Kaspersky 2023 vs Bitdefend 2023

  • @ianleach1562
    @ianleach1562 Год назад +40

    For consumer systems, this testing makes perfect sense and was very interesting, thank you! Where Defender wins is in the Enterprise when used in conjunction with other Defender products, the Azure framework, and other native OS capabilities such as the Guards 👍🏼

    • @syrikii1312
      @syrikii1312 Год назад +3

      How does this make sense for a consumer systems? In what scenario do you see a consumer download 30+ malicious exe packages in one go?

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur Год назад +9

      @@syrikii1312 they dont need to download all 30+, just 1 would be enough

    • @zilverman7820
      @zilverman7820 Год назад +1

      @@SummonerArthur Well the purpose of the test is to show how many and how hard it can work with multiple viruses. Isn't that great to test the capabilities of an anti virus?

  • @mx338
    @mx338 Год назад +15

    As a sysadmin I use Microsoft Defender ATP on Windows, macOS and Linux and I have been really satisfied so far.
    Luckily with Defender ATP you get a very powerful CLI and security web interface, so I never deal with the limited GUI.

    • @aaaaaaaaaa3222
      @aaaaaaaaaa3222 Год назад +3

      Maaaaaan
      I hope u got some people who provide security in your company....

    • @mx338
      @mx338 Год назад +1

      @@aaaaaaaaaa3222 We are a security company, so our service team also monitors any alerts on our devices 24/7, which is very neat and easy with the MS security portal.

    • @terrycrews1584
      @terrycrews1584 Год назад +2

      Why would you trust an anti-virus/malware program which is the most targeted one for malware to bypass especially in a server environment?

  • @darkfrozen1860
    @darkfrozen1860 Год назад +6

    Windows defender is really getting better when it comes to simple malware. However, it takes much more memory in the background. But kaspersky also sometimes spikes up so I guess it's even now. Kaspersky is getting concerning for me now as I see a lot of false positives these days. This was the issue with defender now it's getting same with kaspersky. Defender could lead the charts if they find a way to deal with ransom threats. I personally shifted to Kaspersky because of the same ransom threat issue was hit by one on Windows. So, overall I believe Kaspersky gonna stay behind if they keep this low performance up.

  • @AuroraRainbow
    @AuroraRainbow Год назад +53

    To be fair to Windows defenders speed, *usually* you don't download and run 30 ransomwares at the same time :D would be interesting to see a more realistic attack scenario where it's only one at a time and letting defender deal with it slowly

  • @mrfluffyhedgehog
    @mrfluffyhedgehog Год назад +6

    while microsoft should resolve the issue with defender starting to ui-glitch under any conditions, i doubt that this system was ever tested for such a scenario as it is completely unrealistic in normal day to day.
    what is important are the results however. now that microsoft seems to have improved malware detection to the level of kaspersky (an unexpectedly good result tbh.), defender missing ransomware is where they need to put their efforts. the ui can crash under heavy load all day long for all i care as long as it stops the threat.

  • @pmodarg
    @pmodarg Год назад +15

    Would like to see the same test with Kaspersky vs Malwarebytes

  • @Coldheart9009
    @Coldheart9009 Год назад +27

    Great video. Surprising to see the lacklustre performance from Defender. Would love to see a 2023 Malwarebytes video :)

    • @Shajirr_
      @Shajirr_ Год назад +3

      You have to mention that its only PAID Malwarebytes version.
      Free version has no real-time protection and will happily let all the ransonmware apps encrypt your files.

    • @SamfisherSam
      @SamfisherSam Год назад +3

      @@Shajirr_ Even the paid one isn't that much better. Small company I joined a few years back started using premium MWB and repeatedly got servers ransomwared. I've even got a screenshot of a MWB scan report showing nothing found but the background of the whole system was the ransomware screen.... Went with Trend Micro and completely clean for years so far.

    • @benismann
      @benismann Год назад +1

      >Surprising to see the lacklustre performance from Defender
      huh?

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus Год назад

      ​@@SamfisherSam Good to know.

    • @ad1340yt
      @ad1340yt Год назад +1

      ​@@SamfisherSam how many years ago? malwarebytes has gotten like 4x better overtime. This is coming from a Kaspersky user.

  • @billyguthrie3176
    @billyguthrie3176 Год назад +8

    Great video Leo. Coould you now do one showing how well windows defender and kasperskys free anti ransomware tool compatability is!

  • @-zerocool-
    @-zerocool- Год назад +23

    Nice video thank you. Can we get a new head to head Bitdefender vs Kaspersky please.

  • @englandcalling9721
    @englandcalling9721 Год назад +86

    Happy New Year. Was KSN active in Kaspersky for that test? Do you know if Kaspersky's firewall and intrusion prevention modules played any role in those tests? I'd be fascinated to see how Kaspersky Free compares, lacking both elements. Defender is perfect, providing you never need it! Thanks as always.

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  Год назад +28

      Yes, KSN is active. See the tests in the FAQ (pinned comment), it has a test that shows the ransomware tests with those components disabled. Happy new year to you too!

    • @FFAs
      @FFAs Год назад +4

      @@pcsecuritychannel It's not pinned FYI.

    • @absoleet
      @absoleet Год назад

      ​@@FFAs What the he meant is the FAQ link in the pinned comment at the top.

    • @FFAs
      @FFAs Год назад +3

      @@absoleet It wasn't pinned before .Now it is :)

  • @rounakr94
    @rounakr94 Год назад +6

    Using Kaspersky since 2007 and will keep doing so. There is no reason just because it's Russian to stop using it.
    Lmao Windows itself has a plethora of backdoors for their "Own" investigation agencies.
    Although I think that the old Kaspersky (Internet Security, Total Security) were better.

  • @solidarray
    @solidarray Год назад +17

    Could you test Microsoft Defender for Endpoint or Microsoft Defender for Business? Also, for Windows Defender ATP there is a setting called "Use advanced protection against ransomware."
    I would also like to know how this feature works compared with other competitors.

  • @Reurbo
    @Reurbo Год назад +22

    I'd been using Kaspersky for many years, but last year during my renewal I decided to see if it was actually still needed or if something was better. Most comparisons were for other paid services but a few actually brought in Defender as a contender which showed it as a great option and even better than several paid services. It's come a long way and as long as you aren't doing anything stupid such as clicking banner ads or random links and you're not downloading every questionable program you find, Defender does seem to be a solid choice. It still does a good job at blocking and notifying. I'll admit Defender could use a UI update and a boot to streamline, but to be fair you did just bombard it was 670 downloads which isn't typical use so even at 10 it's still good.

    • @nunagoras
      @nunagoras Год назад +2

      So true!... As someone says: The largest problem on your IT life is that one that seats in between your chair and your PC, that is the same to say: You, the PC's user and your own mistakes! That said, I also only use the Defender. Native with the OS; no 3rd party additional software needed, it just does the job for your regular PC life. For someone whom just need those more or less 20 websites regularly used for the same tasks, going for the same places, enjoying same subjects like me and most of us, that is more than enough!... Oh: And forgive me to be sort of political here... But: Does one consider Kapersky reliable anymore, once they're from the same land where all should be in line with that single one whom ordered a war in Europe such an year ago?... TBHH: I'd not to send my data anymore to a company on such conditions!... Yeah! Computer safety is not only about to have the best scanner protectiions out of this world. To have your personal data protected in such a reliable way is also key, and sadly Kapersky lets lots to be desired these days!... Have a nice day!...

    • @tezcanaslan2877
      @tezcanaslan2877 Год назад +9

      @@nunagorasi would still use software made by russian people because a thing being russian doesn’t make a thing bad.what matters are the statistics.

    • @Spazzfrom.1989
      @Spazzfrom.1989 Год назад

      @@tezcanaslan2877 that and the west started it with their coupe

    • @Morpheus-pt3wq
      @Morpheus-pt3wq Год назад +4

      @@tezcanaslan2877 thing being russian doesn´t make it bad, but it´s kinda similar to China in this matter right now. Every piece of software from them might be a security threat, especially a one, which core function is to search through user data.

    • @homersimpson6844
      @homersimpson6844 Год назад +2

      @@nunagoras The best antivirus ever is who is in front of the monitor, if the end user is inexperienced he would be able to infect even a machine that is off 😁 anyway speaking of Kaspersky the "fears" you have being a Russian antivirus are understandable, but I think it's a problem linked more to institutional or corporate PCs and does not concern the PCs of us mere mortals, and in any case only "fears" remain while it is undeniable that (KAV KIS or KTS) is one of the best if not the best ever in the world. Now the war in Ukraine it has rekindled the problem, among other things already raised in 2017 by the US security department, so much so that Kaspersky in response has moved the servers to Switzerland for all users worldwide (clearly excluding Russia) it must also be said that it has even agreed to the analysis of its source code for transparency reasons resulting OK (more than that). I say this only because they are objective data that can be consulted by five on the web. It must also be said that if we point the finger at this software because it is Russian then we must also pay attention to Winrar 7Zip and a mountain of other software of Russian paternity.

  • @bigdaddycool1000
    @bigdaddycool1000 Год назад +11

    Kaspersky ist still an amazing AV.

  • @Leopold3131
    @Leopold3131 Год назад +9

    I’d like to see ransomware run sandboxed (Sandboxie, Firejail, Shade, etc). Yeah, we know it will encrypt within the sandbox. But are any able to escape the sandbox? And which sandboxes are most secure? Which ones pass muster?

  • @Apersonig
    @Apersonig Год назад +9

    This is exactly the one I was waiting for!

  • @MarkoVuckovic32
    @MarkoVuckovic32 Год назад +5

    Honestly before updating to windows 10 I was using avast and I had no idea how resource heavy it was. It was literally drastically slowing my pc down. Nowadays I use just windows defender and it works fine for me. My PCs performance is definitely better as well.

    • @svampebob007
      @svampebob007 Год назад

      I would love to see a comparison of a antivirus vs "no antivirus" run on two systems ran by a "noob" and a "power user"
      I haven't used an antivirus for over 10 years and as far as I know I haven't ever gotten anything malicious installed on my computer.
      not using or "paying" for an antivirus doesn't mean that I haven't ran scans here and there, it only means that I have not used an active antivirus program (other then Windows defender in the last few years).
      This is actually one of the most common question I get from friends and relative "how do you know that this is safe"
      my answer is always "I don't know, it just feels safe? that shit looks shady/good?"
      Literally this Christmas I watched my brother download a movie;
      file name: movie.exe
      "dude I think this pirate-bay proxy is bad"
      "how do you know?!?!"
      😅 DUDE it says .exe!!!!
      "oh lol I didn't see that!, let me download this "cam" torrent... wait why is the sound and picture so bad?"
      🤨

    • @maxkade9133
      @maxkade9133 Год назад +1

      @@svampebob007 you could have your data and credentials stolen without traces

    • @svampebob007
      @svampebob007 Год назад

      @@maxkade9133
      Obviously! but I also have my data and credentials stored offsite by (insert brand/company) with traced and user agreement. they are known to sell it to the highest bidder.
      From my experience, I haven't noticed it... did they (hackers) ever do more harm then the government and or company?
      Is my info out there?
      Yes I have a passport and driving license! The government (they) have been hacked countless times.
      Am I falling for a "hi sir yes, we are your bank, please transfer money, or your data is encrypted" 🤣
      "They could have so you should pay us"
      this is the same scare tactics that the pigs say when they want to defend the war on drugs.
      No sir!
      I'd rather have a script kid and or a weed dealer in my neighborhood, than a snitch on my ram! just all in the name of defending grandma that walked into traffic and got hit by Jonny Methhead at 170mph in a 169mph zone without street lights because the budget went to the pigs.

    • @LordCarmesimXXVII
      @LordCarmesimXXVII Год назад

      Your PC got faster because you to windows 10, probably with a fresh installation. Avast is lighter on system resources than Windows Defender.

    • @VSN-wb2ly
      @VSN-wb2ly 4 месяца назад

      ​@@svampebob007same, I only use windows defender but just with ad blocker and common sense, I avoided many dangers from pirate sites

  • @BoBaH_BoBaHoB
    @BoBaH_BoBaHoB Год назад +4

    'ConfigureDefender' is the open source program to tune your WinDefender.

  • @shaamzzkori
    @shaamzzkori Год назад +3

    Great test, thanks!
    I'm using only windows defender on my PC for "experimental reason". Sometimes I check PC by other programs and still nothing harmless was found. But, I rarely visit non well-knowed sites or download&run strange files.
    Your test show windef not 100% accurate but suitable for everyday use yet, in case if you use only your favourite sites and games, I guess.

  • @NotSLC
    @NotSLC Год назад +6

    Thank you so much, I've been looking for a good antivirus to protect my family's privacy and I'm seeing the promotions they have, and it is such a deal breaker I cannot resist, these test videos do show the quality of Kaspersky so I will definitely try it out tysm!

  • @morgfarm1
    @morgfarm1 Год назад +13

    I feel a lot better using Defender by itself after seeing this. Yeah, it isn't perfect (None of them are), but that's a very positive sign for a 'free' and included security platform. For someone that's generally smart enough to avoid threats, this is more than plenty. But less knowledgeable people might still want to use Kapersky for a bit longer.

    • @argo1288
      @argo1288 Год назад +1

      @@goodjohnjr Do you have something with all in one features, or is Defender good by itself?

  • @teddym2808
    @teddym2808 Год назад +6

    I feel safe with Defender and Malwarebytes premium working in tandem with the provided exceptions set in both so they don't conflict.
    That's the only combination of everything I tried that doesn't cause issues.
    Kaspersky drastically slows down my internet. Bit defender and Eset internet security both hosed my computer. BD I have spoken about before plenty of times, but ESET was maybe 10 months back, after the BD incident and on a fresh laptop that I turned on and installed ESET on. A few weeks later I did a system restore and it corrupted the boot sector. The entire drive had to be formatted, nothing could repair it. I have never seen anything like it. The Malwarebytes support team actually explained to me what happened in a way that even ESET didn't understand lol.
    Luckily I was (just) in the 30 days and got a full refund but it didn't change the fact of the huge amount of work I now had to do.
    I am never, ever leaving Malwarebytes again. I wanted an all in one with outbound firewall and Defender disabled, for ease of use, but I have decided the compromise is worth it.
    It doesn't slow down my system or download speed and it's completely unintrusive. I still have Emsisoft FREE emergency kit installed as, why not? For a third opinion scan now and then and it's not a real-time process so doesn't interfere.
    Kaspersky has powerful protection but you need to disable the browser protection to stop internet slowdown which defeats half the purpose for me. Malwarebyte's network protection does not interfere at ALL. Ever. I also use their free firewall control to have outbound alerts like on Little Snitch for Mac which was my favourite firewall of all time and probably still is.
    So yeah, now 3 realtime monitoring apps instead of one, but in a way, having 2 AV isn't a bad thing since one might get what the other misses, but I doubt Malwarebytes would fail on a standard home computer with typical use. I mean let's be serious, these Ransomware tests are extreme, I don't know of real world scenarios where home computers are subject to 20 ransomware samples attacking all at once. Malwarebytes blocked everything on the faux ransomware tester in any case. I recommend others try that out to test their AV, as it's safe and not real ransomware, it's ransomware like behaviour to test the AV. Cheers and a HAPPY 2023 to all!

  • @timothydudley6515
    @timothydudley6515 Год назад +17

    you should test the AV's against not "known" malware, the malware that you tested here is malware that are on signature lists (how AV detects 99% of malware) and that doesn't prove anything (I could make a AV myself that would be able to check for malware signatures). The important thing is can those AV's detect (unknown) malware at runtime or are we relying on security researches to find threats and add signatures, that's the only thing that makes certain AV better than other (unless if they don't keep their signature lists up to date [which would be plain stupid]).

    • @kien_truong
      @kien_truong Год назад +3

      >> You should test the AV's against not "known" malware
      How can you test against the "unknown", unless you know it's there; and if you know it's there, then it's already known. The only people who have "unknown" malware (also called zero-day) are the guys who wrote malware themselves, and they're not sharing, at least not publicly.
      >> I could make a AV myself that would be able to check for malware signatures
      Easier said than done, there're millions of malware out there with tiny variations between them. It's not trivial to check for malware signature efficiently: not just a simple hash comparison.
      >> unless if they don't keep their signature lists up to date [which would be plain stupid]
      You'd be surprise at how stupid a user can be.

    • @timothydudley6515
      @timothydudley6515 Год назад

      @@kien_truong
      1. By "known" malware I mean malware that's very well known in the cybersecurity community. I don't mean that it has to be a 0day because that's a type of vulnerability but I mean that they should test it against their own implementations in C++ (see if they can encrypt all the files without av catching in).
      2. It's very trivial to check for signatures for AV companies (checking behaviours is [relatively] much harder than checking for a signature).
      3. AV (including windows defender) keep their signature lists updated automatically with the server. HOWEVER I was talking about the server not having those signatures in their databases which is what leads to problems
      And yeah I know it's very easy to obfuscate malware which is why that's what you should check to see when AV kicks in and when it doesn't

  • @xchrisdw
    @xchrisdw Год назад +4

    would you ever make a video showing up to properly set up windows? not a simple install, but a full in depth guide to keep up to date with security and performance?

  • @nellermann
    @nellermann Год назад +7

    do you ever test licensed Defender for Endpoint that businesses may actually use?

  • @Dinchev666
    @Dinchev666 Год назад +7

    Defender has really come a long way in the last years, which is really good as it has great static detection for malware signatures, which are constantly updated through the microsoft cloud... As for ransomware, unfortunately this test is not very legitimate as it is a rare event for ransomware to be re-used in the same way... The group might be the same, the note might be similar, but the encryption in most cases won't be so Kaspersky will not be able to actually remove the encryption as it won't have the key... The ransomwares used in this viedeo are known and cracked with available keys in NoRansomwareProject, but in the "wild" this is rarely the case... Also almost all anti-vural solutions used are signature based and rarely do well when it comes to reactivity... My point is that in realilty Defender will do the same as any other well known anti-viral solution, however the other do proivde a lot more details and ability for detailed finetuning for experts and production business environment...

    • @amritlohia8240
      @amritlohia8240 Год назад

      That's precisely why Kaspersky isn't "signature based" - it has numerous mechanisms including advanced heuristics, a cloud reputation system (Kaspersky Security Network), and multiple behavioural/HIPS modules (Application Control and System Watcher). The main issue with more basic solutions like Windows Defender, by contrast, is precisely the lack of behavioural protection.

  • @jasonaitken7860
    @jasonaitken7860 Год назад +8

    What about Kaspersky cloud free vs Windows defender?

  • @SgtRamen69
    @SgtRamen69 Год назад +5

    Well, now we know why Defender is taking up less resources lol. Still did pretty good though. I'm also wondering if Kaspersky would've done even better with the highest security setting since I'd use that in my daily driver.

    • @itsTyrion
      @itsTyrion Год назад

      less resources? I remember at least 5 times where it hogged the CPU more than the game I was playing, the compiler that was compiling code, or 7zip compressing a folder. but hey, it got better at least

  • @marks5777
    @marks5777 Год назад +4

    I know from prior videos that Avira isn’t your favorite, but I have had bad experiences with Bitdefender and I just can’t get Kaspersky to load. There is an Avira file on my computer and the only thing that seems to find it interestingly is when I try to install Kaspersky. Nothing I have tried including the removal option offered by Kaspersky removes it! So…..
    Could you please do a side by side of Avira and Kaspersky? Is Avira really that bad an option?

  • @dziugas1959
    @dziugas1959 Год назад +3

    I guess to clarify on the first part of the test. It was the main reason why I switched from „Windows Defender“ and other av's to „Kaspersky“, I remember „Windows defender“ keept flagging „Steam“ .dll files, random software installers as malware. Now to be fair „Kaspersky“ is still having a little bit of problems mainly with „Sumo“ and „Windows“ editing tools. But the false positive ratio is insane. „Smartscreen“ itself is just a 300$ license to not appear. From independent devs I hear.

  • @offroadpatriot7219
    @offroadpatriot7219 Год назад +1

    To this day I still think the old "Microsoft Security Essentials" UI from years back looks better and is more intuitive than the current windows defender, which are the same thing... just renamed.

  • @theredpenguin1354
    @theredpenguin1354 Год назад +6

    I would love to see you try to test Microsoft Defender but ATP enabled AKA now, MDE (Microsoft Defender for Endpoint), alot of it is cloud based, however, it seems to do much better at analysis and proactive blocking.

  • @Octavian-R
    @Octavian-R Год назад +2

    Happy new year 🎉 would be nice to see in next videos another test of Iobit Malware Fighter Pro. They recently updated to v10 and claim some strong protection 😇

  • @kennethwong3275
    @kennethwong3275 Год назад +4

    At work, we're licensed to use Cisco Secure Endpoint. I would be interested to see how it compares to Kapersky and others. Thanks in advance!

  • @erikkonstas
    @erikkonstas Год назад +2

    This is an absolute gem to show to those who are cheap AF with their antivirus... since 2008, KAV has saved our asses from a lot of shit, and I was only 6 years old then!

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus Год назад

      Damn..Starting trouble at age six 😂 You hooligan!

    • @erikkonstas
      @erikkonstas Год назад

      @@SpaceCadet4Jesus LOL that was the age when flashing "CONGRATULATIONS!" ads were the norm, of course I wanted a new iPhone...

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus Год назад

      @@erikkonstas You wanted a new IPhone but only got AOL CD coasters, or was that before your time? At 20, you're just a baby..wait till you get 3 1/2 times your current age. 😄🙃

    • @erikkonstas
      @erikkonstas Год назад

      @@SpaceCadet4Jesus I mean I existed but was too young 😂

  • @radhabshrestha
    @radhabshrestha Год назад +4

    Good to see the comparisons but still we have to use Windows Defender as of our primary AV. Hope MS will improve further in near future.

    • @anisoyo973
      @anisoyo973 Год назад

      Ms already improved further of it in some win 10/11 insider builds

    • @VSN-wb2ly
      @VSN-wb2ly 4 месяца назад

      They are

  • @generalsdragons6952
    @generalsdragons6952 Год назад +1

    I have used Kaspersky for several years now and have no reasons not to keep using them.

  • @xDrako42
    @xDrako42 Год назад +8

    Would the free version of kaspersky perform the same? :/

    • @NatK2010
      @NatK2010 5 месяцев назад

      Very likely. Kaspersky standard with security, it is the exact same. It only adds more features. Anti-Virus is the exact same.

    • @VSN-wb2ly
      @VSN-wb2ly 4 месяца назад

      Yes, just more features

  • @realme1kc12
    @realme1kc12 Год назад +2

    Expected results from Kaspersky when it comes to PUPs

  • @awolfe288
    @awolfe288 Год назад +5

    I love your channel! Question. Could you run tests using mobile security on android? Alot of these companies have applications that run on Android as well and I'm just wondering if they actually block threats as well.

  • @a.g8517
    @a.g8517 Год назад +1

    great video. just bought 2y license for kaspersky to protect all my data

  • @jamesweber1827
    @jamesweber1827 Год назад +4

    I would like to see a test of Kaspersky free vs paid. I do volunteer computer repair for low income and seniors. almost all are using a free antivirus, 60% Kaspersky free, 20% other, and 20% Defender. I want to give the people i help the best advice I can. Thanks.

  • @RedRyz3n
    @RedRyz3n Год назад +5

    It should be expected that MS will improve Defender to a point where it’s at the same level or better than all other AVs. The days of Windows needing a 3rd party AV solution are over.

    • @godofnothing520
      @godofnothing520 Год назад

      Yes, it is like any other AV Windows Defender learns from AI. It learns from samples if a user's device got infected, the virus will be uploaded to Microsoft server and then analyze it, AI will learn the virus and release the update for all users everyday.

    • @nutellaguyau
      @nutellaguyau Год назад +2

      The days of 3rd party AVs are far from over lol. Use defender if you enjoy having your files encrypted lol.

  • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
    @SpaceCadet4Jesus Год назад +1

    I don't mind advising clients using Windows Defender if they are cash strapped. Otherwise, I recommend (and personally use) Kaspersky Internet Security (KIS), not the plain anti-virus. I also install Malwarebytes Free for those budget people.

  • @xiaowong6651
    @xiaowong6651 Год назад +4

    The newer UWP-UIs were always sluggish.... Installing dozens of laptops and PCs a week for customers, the settings app locks up during updates at least once on every single one. Sometimes twice or three times.
    On 12th gen and later i5s and i7s.... Unacceptable in my opinion.

    • @Starchaser38
      @Starchaser38 Год назад

      I take it Win11 has made it even worse?

  • @teddym2808
    @teddym2808 Год назад

    Great video btw, thanks. It tells me I am doing the right thing having MWB Premium installed as Defender is not the best with Ransomware, and MWB is known for it.

  • @dazztee
    @dazztee Год назад +4

    used kaspersky for years, russians know what there doin, fast detection an low resource use an never crashed, ive always hated defender

  • @DaveGamesVT
    @DaveGamesVT Год назад +2

    Whenever I've tried different free antivirus programs I tend to get annoying stuff like pop ups, offers for paid services, etc. I just gave up and went back to windows defender.

  • @guilhermems
    @guilhermems Год назад +9

    Could you test Kaspersky vs Bitdefender? 😃

    • @nellermann
      @nellermann Год назад +3

      I saw it on the channel a few years ago, pretty much irrelevant after a few weeks right?

  • @redf7209
    @redf7209 10 месяцев назад

    A key reason why one would be better than another is if one has a more up to date library of threats. In my mind this is the major difference between freeware and bought ware. For this to be evident in this test the feed of threats should include ones that are quite recent. If it does, its not clear.

  • @el_gwuapoo
    @el_gwuapoo Год назад +3

    Happy New Year 🎉🎉🎉

  • @ArtflPhenix
    @ArtflPhenix Год назад +2

    will you do anti-malware tests for android? or do you have any youtuber recommendations?

  • @DCLixi6858
    @DCLixi6858 Год назад +4

    Antivirus Tierlist; 2022 - When will it arrive?
    And you can test BitDefender?

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  Год назад +2

      We will do one next year with more products, more tests and a different format!

    • @DCLixi6858
      @DCLixi6858 Год назад

      @@pcsecuritychannel Thank you for your interest

  • @Stabby666
    @Stabby666 Год назад +1

    I never install anything over Windows defender. Pretty much any AV software absolutely kills the disk performance of a PC, but Defender doesn't seem as bad as the other options. You're basically turning your SSD into an old-school HDD using other AV software...

  • @galenklassen8634
    @galenklassen8634 Год назад +6

    Your videos are so fascinating

  • @Anon-tg1gl
    @Anon-tg1gl Год назад +4

    This is a very good test.
    Is it possible to share the script that you used in this video?

  • @ifur
    @ifur Год назад +2

    Kaspersky rescued me from a nasty virus with the trial version I'm a paying user ever since.

  • @cepay2015
    @cepay2015 Год назад +6

    Man Kaspersky is good

  • @firstlast5350
    @firstlast5350 Год назад +1

    Kaspersky will be good choice for Windows 10 if and when microsoft deserts it. I've already stopped using defender.

  • @hackeronte7970
    @hackeronte7970 Год назад +10

    If this is real, then it's actually really really scary.... I don't see how difficult would be for a file to lunch multiple instances of various ransomware and crash windows defender this way... I'm actually thinking to switch to Kaspersky ASAP

    • @goodjohnjr
      @goodjohnjr Год назад +3

      You will probably be okay with Windows Security if you use the commonly recommended security tips like using a layered security strategy et cetera, and you could use Controlled Folder Access in Windows Security on the folders that you want to protect & set Windows Security to Recommended or High settings using DefenderUI or ConfigureDefender.

  • @januszkowal3327
    @januszkowal3327 Год назад +3

    It is great to see how basic defender stack up against one of the best avs but I would like to see battles of the best ones for example it was said that bitdefender and kaspersky or eset are among the best. Please do more tests of those high tier avs. If not the fact that russia is unpredictable i would use kaspersky. But for now I am looking for something equal/better than that.

  • @tubo_channel
    @tubo_channel 25 дней назад

    In conclusion: Kaspersky is better, easily.
    I'd take anything that protects me from ransomware that's literally made to pierce through windows defender.
    Also, love that you can change kaspersky's icon to it's mascot, Midori Kuma (green bear), very cute.

  • @Reynardfoox
    @Reynardfoox Год назад +3

    Don't forget DefenderUI 1.10

  • @Shajirr_
    @Shajirr_ Год назад +2

    I wonder if malware will now be trying to block internet access first, so that it will massively cripple Windows Defender, and re-enable it when it already takes over the system?

  • @Moochi4
    @Moochi4 Год назад +3

    Can you test avira again it had alot of updates and changes

  • @dv7548
    @dv7548 Год назад

    I like to see bitdefender how bitdefender handles your test. Happy New Year.

  • @RetroMannGaming
    @RetroMannGaming Год назад +4

    What would be the difference between Kaspersky licensed and free? That would be nice to know since defender already comes packed with Windows and no extra cost.

  • @C3PO_
    @C3PO_ Год назад

    This comparison is very meaningful. Our university switched from Kaspersky Endpoint Security to Windows Defender when the US Government banned Kaspersky back in 2017. Our School IT head was for the change and said Kaspersky was unnecessary and Windows Defender was good enough. Your test results just said it all.

    • @cepay2015
      @cepay2015 Год назад

      Bro the MS Defender machine got affected by ransomware

    • @C3PO_
      @C3PO_ Год назад

      @@cepay2015 Yeah, that's a loud slap in our IT head's face.

  • @deanspanos8210
    @deanspanos8210 Год назад +5

    Configuredefender?

    • @goodjohnjr
      @goodjohnjr Год назад +1

      I want to see a test with that set to High settings and one with DefenderUI set to Recommended settings.

  • @mohammadabdullah1693
    @mohammadabdullah1693 Год назад +2

    Was controlled folder access enabled in defender? It blocks unauthorized access to selected folders.

  • @gabrielandy9272
    @gabrielandy9272 Год назад +3

    are the core isolation feature enabled as well on windows defender?

  • @rohitfacebook
    @rohitfacebook Год назад

    Have been using Kaspersky, 12 years going good!

  • @BoxOfMysteriez
    @BoxOfMysteriez Год назад +7

    Test would be more interested if Defender was set to the "max settings" per your Hardening Windows videos

    • @goodjohnjr
      @goodjohnjr Год назад

      I am still waiting for high to test Windows Security set to Recommended setting by DefenderUI or set to High settings by ConfigureDefender.

    • @TheMultimargarin
      @TheMultimargarin Год назад +2

      @@goodjohnjr Kaspersky worked with the default settings, so the test is correct and honest.
      This channel showed high Defender settings, but it looks more like a crutch than protection, because there is damage to comfortable work in the Windows environment.

    • @goodjohnjr
      @goodjohnjr Год назад

      @@TheMultimargarin I did not mention anything about correct or honest. Incorrect, he tested Windows Security on Maximum settings, which is not recommended for most users by ConfigureDefender or DefenderUI. So we are still waiting for him to test either of those using the recommended settings for each of those, which is what most people use, if they use DefenderUI or ConfigureDefender.

    • @TheMultimargarin
      @TheMultimargarin Год назад +1

      @@goodjohnjr It is very strange that an external utility is needed that adjusts the Defender to high settings.
      Microsoft will never do it humanly the first time.
      Can I just buy a MacBook then and not worry?

    • @TheMultimargarin
      @TheMultimargarin Год назад +1

      @@goodjohnjr And when will Microsoft think of implementing web protection in its security product?
      Apparently, Dota or Minecraft is more important for Indian freelancers than a thoughtful Defender for Windows...

  • @7m0xd
    @7m0xd Год назад +1

    The Russian bear Kaspersky is the top1 among all others. It was the first to detect stux-net just imagine how powerful it is now.

  • @Blue-Mystic
    @Blue-Mystic Год назад +4

    In my experience Kaspersky is better detecting viruses, but it can turn your PC completely un-usable till its 'search' finishes.
    Defender instead, has lower detection rate but almost no performance impact.
    I kept Defender and garbaged Kaspersky.

  • @Captainflake99
    @Captainflake99 Год назад +2

    Have you done tests on Microsoft Defender? Either for family or business as I would be interested to see how it holds up to another paid AV solution. Where as this test was a paid solution Vs a built in free version. Windows defender did better than I thought but I do agree about the GUI

  • @goodtoshi
    @goodtoshi Год назад +3

    Kaspersky doesn't detect some kinds of threats by default (e.g. joke programs), their detection should be specifically enabled in setting.

  • @JimCarrey2005
    @JimCarrey2005 Год назад +1

    Just curious did you get this list of infected sites from a black list? Do you know if stevens blacklist on GitHub or any similar blacklist is up to date? I’m attempting to make a extension to block malicious site and I would love to know if there are any comprehensive lists I could use.

  • @Arthur90
    @Arthur90 Год назад +3

    my boy kaspersky!!! 💚

  • @GARYGUS
    @GARYGUS Год назад +2

    Thank you for the video. I have a question about Kaspersky Security Cloud free version. I turned off Kaspersky security network (KSN) and would like to know if this would have a negative effect on the performance of the software against preventing threats?

    • @myst4706
      @myst4706 Год назад +5

      It doesn't affect the performance, but it doesn't send info to the cloud or receive it.
      They have a website called Opentip, and any undetected file that is uploaded and detected there by the Analysis will be instantly sent to KSN and Kaspersky will remove the file from the PCs it's on.
      It's also to check reputation of files and websites.

  • @Sid-Cannon
    @Sid-Cannon Год назад +11

    It would be interesting to see what would happen if you ran configure defender and set it to high.

    • @goodjohnjr
      @goodjohnjr Год назад +1

      Yep, and DefenderUI set to Recommended; I would like to see which of those perform the best, and how much better they are than default settings.

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  Год назад +14

      All settings for Defender are enabled in this test, this is as high as you can go without causing major usability problems.

    • @TheMultimargarin
      @TheMultimargarin Год назад

      @@pcsecuritychannel so it's not for nothing that I keep it turned off))
      As for me, it's still a stupid product that is easily replaced by a third-party protective product with a more balanced protection.

    • @goodjohnjr
      @goodjohnjr Год назад +1

      @@pcsecuritychannel I still would like you to do a video showing the difference between DefenderUI set to Recommended, ConfigureDefender set to High, and your settings in this test; to see the difference in what is enabled & what is not, detection / protection, et cetera.
      I have used both of those before without usability problems because I use the recommended settings like they recommend and not the maximum.

  • @dropshot1967
    @dropshot1967 Год назад

    I wish you and yours a happy and healthy 2023

  • @Ausf.D.A.K.
    @Ausf.D.A.K. Год назад +3

    I only trust Kaspersky with my security.

  • @ichbinnichtdu4926
    @ichbinnichtdu4926 Год назад +2

    I would be interested to know why the Ransomeware test is performed when Ransomeware protection is disabled in Defender? Isn't the test pointless then? At the end of your video you can see that the Ransomeware protection in Defender is not activated or was it deactivated by Malware in the test?

    • @dib4444
      @dib4444 Год назад

      Windows builtin ransomware protection is a feature on top, which blocks access to certain folders and allows it only for a specified list of programs. It is not being used for ransomware detection. The usability could sink with this Feature drastically if you do not configure it for all applications, also it could limit usability between apps.