1 Moog Modular, 4 ARP 2600s & Endless Poly Expression with Rob Rosen
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ABOUT THIS VIDEO
In this video my long-time friend Rob Rosen and I meet with product specialist Josh Madoff to explore the Haken Audio Continuum and Expressive E Osmose. I was curious to let Rob play both of these instruments and also to hear what he thinks about the future of MPE (MIDI Polyphonic Expression). I built one of the most extreme patches I've ever made that incudes (4) Vintage ARP 2600's synthesizers and (1) Vintage 1969 Moog IIIc modular synthesizer playing all at once in unison mode or where each modular synth is playing a separate voice in the chord. We are using 5 channels of Haken Audio CVC (Control Voltage Converter) to receive MPE messages from the Osmose and also from a Continuum.
These state of the art MIDI controllers are able to understand the players most subtle finger movements and immediately translate those messages to the CVC. Without any perceivable latency, the CVC can then send 5 independent control voltages to alter any parameter in real-time on any one of the synths being used as a voice.
I'm optimistic that we'll be seeing controllers in the near future delivering higher and higher levels of artistic experiences for performers. Please enjoy this presentation and let us know what you think in the comments section. Thank you for your support, it means everything to us!
00:00 Continuum Music Example
00:36 Anthony's Intro
00:58 Sound Sources (4) ARP 2600s (1) Moog IIIc
01:44 Expression Possibilites
06:46 Portamento, Articulations, Vibrato
07:34 Patching the Channels for Each Synth Voice
08:57 Sostenuto Pedal Effects
10:00 Re-Tuning
10:41 Musical Examples with Added Resonance
11:51 Rob Rosen Plays the Continuum
15:29 Osmose MPE Arpeggiator with Haken CVC
17:42 Osmose MPE Arpeggiator Settings
22:42 Adding Sostenuto Pedal Control
24:00 Anthony's Recap
24:32 Rob Rosen's Perspective
25:25 Final Thoughts
27:24 CTA - Thank you
27:47 Logo (theme music)
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ABOUT ANTHONY
Anthony's musical touch as both composer and performer is connected with some of the most influential creative minds over the last 40 years. He’s composed and conducted original orchestral scores for over 80 feature films including Young Guns , Internal Affairs , The Man From Elysian Fields , 15 Minutes and Planes, Trains & Automobiles , been commissioned by the Los Angeles Philharmonic for his symphonic work "In the Family Way", written over one thousand TV commercials in a myriad of musical styles, co-founded Levels Audio Post (LA's premiere post production facility) and performed and arranged on big-box-office films and influential hit records such as Michael Jackson's Thriller .
His extensive work as a young arranger, orchestrator and performer for Quincy Jones , Jack Nitzsche , Lamont Dozier , Arthur Rubenstein and Giorgio Moroder was vital in launching his own career. His early years pioneering modular analog synthesizers along with his wide-ranging music scholarship positioned Anthony at the center of the music technology revolution. He attended the University of Southern California School of Music as a piano and composition major.
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I love how visibly excited Anthony is. It’s infectious! And what a blessing to have made a career in something you clearly enjoy so much.
It's incredible!
I think the world is ready for an Anthony Marinelli inspired VST!!
Massive and beautiful. Phenomenal. Not exactly the most accessible setup for us mere mortals 😂 but so good to hear how this sounds.
I have the Haken SlimContinuum full size with me & its really incredible especially for me who wanna get more microtonal playing (since I'm from india so indian classical raags i can attain more with MPE like this).
And also I don't have the ability to play wind instruments so Haken has been great for me in that regards and to add micro tonal embellishments to my tracks. This has been my dream instrument for so long(along with the unobtanium original CS-80 lol)
This is beyond anyone would have thought of, MPE is amazing on this crazy setup.
I wish this was more accessible to mere mortals. I'm amazed that there aren't affordable MPE MIDI keyboards without the sound engine attached out there.
That’s really mad !!! What a new generation of keyboards 🤯 thank you Anthony for sharing this with us
Open minded with a true vintage soul, that is what we need. You are great, I learn so much from this wonderful channel.
It’s the dual legato going
Up and down to finally resolve
That I’ve never heard before. Beautiful!
This sounds amazing on headphones.
Happy birthday Josh! Thanks so much for creating these videos. It was so nice to hear the synths all hooked up via MPE.
This is magnificent! Thanks Anthony, Josh and Rob for this super organic music video
Wooowwwww c’était vraiment incroyable, tout l’épisode au complet était excellente. J’aurais écouté vos performances encore et encore, pendant des heures ! Bravo guys !!!
This is great. Thank you for sharing it. Would love to have a separate video that dives deeper into the technical side of how you set up the box to assign voices and CVs please. Thank you!
Thanks Josh for the cool playing and demos. great show
Love it when people come together like this!
People make the world go 'round!!
Hope Josh had a Great birthday!
Rob Rosen made me cry 🥲
The algorithm saw me watching Kitaro and Hermeto Pascoal videos and brought me here. Praise the algo.
Anthony’s enthusiasm and explanations are wonderful.
that combination of moog and arps sounds really good
Very exciting!!! I never even thought to use my Osmose this way!!!
Way to go Rob, that was awesome, like a duck to water brother ❤
Another great and unique video! And what they did not have time to get into is that those CVCs are totally programmable in terms of voltage and WXYZ CV distribution to channels to allow for amazing CV flexibility. For example, W does not have to be a gate. It can be programmed to output X, Y or Z if you like, (or any mathematical combination of them) and much, much more! You can even program Z to output a continuous stream of Off/On voltage at some speed modulated by pressure if you want to have a zither effect, etc. The CV output is only limited by your imagination.
This is insane.
I'm stuck I need to get to work but this sounds so good.
There's no way to say this politely, but this is a synthesizer circle jerk and I absolutely love it!
amazing.... just mind blowing and amazing.
I can't believe how amazing those controllers are...not to mention the synths. I'm really loving these videos and i'm dying to get my hands on that incredible room
As a Osmose owner, these videos have given me a greater appreciation of what I have!
A special day. Great seeing you guys really lean and show what's possible with all four synths alongside Osmose and the Haken. Well done.
The EMF coming off this thang is worth the price alone!
So cool. Love the playing.
When Rob mentioned his SEM system I started wondering - Anthony, maybe there is a way you can set up your SEM voices in the Four Voice to be triggered with MPE! I'm sure if Oberheim and Emu systems could have used that kind of keyboard in 1975 they would have.
Pretty amazing, this video has me totally reconsidering what kinds of hardware I should have around. Synth modules seem a more obvious choice now - why have so many keyboards if they are simple on/off switches like you said? A small number of expressive keybeds with MPE and Poly AT are all one needs, and with Midi and CV, the number of synths that can be linked appears to be limitless...thank you for expanding my mind!
Really nice experience! ❤
The Osmose would be my golden ticket to the laughing academy. I wouldn't know how to stop playing with it especially with the arpeggio settings, they'd launch me into the quantum realm. Very fractal like. Looks so fun. Thanks fellas for showing us your toys. Cheers from OZ.
Thanks Anthony for saying what's hard for me to say to musicians who never experienced this.
Thanks for all you've done for the love of music.:)
Going to be a lot of really funky bass lines as people get used to MPE. To have the equivalent of ghost notes available to the gestural palette of keyboardists will be very rad to hear.
Amazing and inspirational videos! Thank you for sharing-
Now let’s create!
That was amazing this is audio Heaven.
I love this.
This setup has changed the dynamic I feel different because you feel different within a wave.. It's a new way of communicating sonic gestures. What fun' Really. Much Love.
So cool. Right, I’m off to fire up my Serge with my Continuum and CVC - it’s been a while
Awesome, just awesome
Today's presentation is brought to you by Anthony Marrenilli the Prince of Synths.
Yes! I so hope that nick name sticks❤
Next level analog expression 👏🔈💎
Super cool demo
This sounds Insane!
This is the coolest thing I ever heard
Awesome Demo wow!!
This is soo good, you guys should do an improvisation concert with this setup, Anthony Josh and Rob, and stream it on youtube
Awesome channel
awesome content 👍
I have a Roli Seaboard.....SO much fun
It feels like Christmas 🤣🤣🤣
Great video! In many ways this new world of expression reminds me a lot of an old one: wind synths. I play a windsynth, and (for the most part) we windsynth players ignore EGs. Our breath is our envelope. This type of keyboard playing feels very similar to me (but polyphonic, obviously!).
Would love to have a Haken fingerboard, but the price is pretty crazy.
congrats to this great team ... first time ever having 4 Arp and a Moog 3c at you fingertips
INSANE!!!
These are all things I could do on a guitar for ages. And with midiguitar by Jam Origin I can do this to all synthesizers I want.
killer set up ! I hope this video inspires some new analog synth designers to incorporate this level of expression into a single instrument :)
I have a Hydrasynth Deluxe with after touch and the ribbon. As expressive as it is, it pales in comparison to this controller. Very impressive.
Really interesting to see a keyboard type controller with the kind of expression one might achieve with a breath control input device. Using something like a Yamaha WX7 with the bite controller for pitch pend and vibrato and breath to modulate whatever controls you can definitely achieve this kind of expression. Kind of amazing to see a keyboard controller that can do that kind of thing and on each voice. Definitely next level stuff.
Happy birthday Josh and thanks so much.
Thank you! 🙏
i think i dreamed about this
....can't get enough of...🌟 🌀🌟
Awesome - can't wait for the price on these types of controllers to come down.
I Remember when I try the continuum many years ago in Frankfurt music messe, maybe was the First time show It, I Understand immediately the possibilities but in the same time I realyze that was a complete new instrument and Need practice...
AMAZING! What does the midi->cv conversion look like here?
From Synthesizer City in Hollywood... Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!
holy fuck, how badass
In this case the fingers are the window to the soul... Unreal!!
You should look at Linnstrument by Roger Linn …
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I can't wait for more affordable controllers to come out or for them to make a new generation so I can get something second-hand.
I think the most affordable controller you can get is one of the ROLI Blocks. the seaboard block m is $350 USD new which isn't too terrible.
@@PianoHero1994I have looked into those. For now I'm happy enough with my Keystep but if one came up the second-hand market at the right time I'd pick one up
I love when Josh laughs about having 15 oscillators.
Want to hear a concert
Has anyone played on the Continuum and also a Roli Seaboard? I’m curious if either has features that the other one lacks. I like that the Seaboard has slightly raised keys so it feels a little like a regular keyboard. I’ve only played it in shops though, and never played on the Continuum.
What’s the setup here to distribute the voice allocation ?
they say in the previous video. the magic box is shown briefly here too but more in the previous
i(just saying), i can do that with my regen using Anthony's 2600 samples that are allready inside... could be interesting to do some mpe vid with the regen though. Tbh, i'm surprised there isnt a vid on this channel dedicated to the Regen... Just saying...
Many of the times I found pink floyd sounds being played, for so many years I was wondering how pink floyed produced it. But specially @10:52 thats definately pink floydish sound, how did they produced it? We didn't had Haken continuum OR any MPE at that time. Can you please make one video for Pink Floyed?
Hi Nitesh, you can see Pink Floyd tweaking their modulars in a lot of their old videos. But the big secret to a lot of their sounds (like the iconic solo in Welcome to the Machine) is that he would play the exact same solo twice, getting the sounds as close as he could to the same, and then pan it hard left and hard right. If you listen close you can tell the slight difference in left and right speakers, that’s why it sounds so big, just slight variations in the filters and timing of things, but very, very close (as a classically trained keyboardist should be able to do, even if the first take was all improvised).
No. The Polybrute 12 is the game changer. Keep the age old tested keyboard and adapt it in a way that feels natural. It's a monster. 😎
Horses for courses. The polybrute can’t do pitch slides for a start so can’t compete with a Continuum in many ways. Beyond the analogue synth attached of course (which I’m not saying isn’t important) the Polybrute has nothing the Osmose doesn’t have with regards control it’s just people don’t know how to program the EaganMatrix.
I cannot wait for Anthony to review the Polybrute 12. It indeed appears to be a game changer regardless of the availability of other expressive devices. It democratizes music making as programming and playing these sounds are often out of the technical capabilities of many.
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Hi Anthony, do you listen to songs and offer feedback?
I hope Anthony does a filterbank demo from Sherman. I have the double one and no clue how to use it really!
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I did something similar to this with my Seaboard and Behringer sound modules...
ruclips.net/video/PQK_taiqe1o/видео.html
I don't have the envelope or filter expressivity, but it is a 5 voice poly analog (like the SEM multi voice synths) with independent pitch bends. Midi and tech has come a long way in 40 plus years!
Have you gotten a chance to play on a continuum? I’m curious what differences there are between it and the seaboard.
@@boldstandard Not yet, unfortunately. Would love to try a continuum. I've heard people say it's like playing a wet suit as the material is like a scuba outfit.
I have known about this for a few months now... someone needs to make one of these and town the price tag down omg.. this thing is 5000 USD, no one can afford this
that comes to $ 6804.50 Canadian . unreal. what componenents make it's value this much, i really need to know. I can buy that Korg Flagship keyboard for quite a bit less than this. so we need this explained.. why is this so expensive
Supply, demand, design, machining, tool building, manufacturing, salaries, leases, licensing, shipping, taxes. It all adds up. There’s a lot more to price than just the cost of parts.
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4 arp 2600s and a moog 3c... it's like a zoo filled with extinct animals.