Once you get set up for the Crush Grind it's a piece of cake. Crush Grind: once the setting you like is made no reason to change it as it stays. Nut on top has to be removed every time you fill it and you have to reset you grind size. Plus, you usually drop the nut if your not real careful. I have done both and settled on the Crush Grind and my customers really like them. Like you say you can play with the knob design. When I make a matching pair I will change the knob design from salt to pepper. On both you will get dusting from the salt or pepper so I came up with a "dock" to set them in that catches the dust. ( The "dock" is another item that can be sold with the pair) Good vid and thanks for your time on it. Cheers, Lee
Hi Mike, Crush grind for me. I bought the woodcut mill as I had to make 10 of them. They work great for pepper, salt and dry herbs. The expense of the mill was pulled back after the 3rd unit made, the recess tool was made from a 5mm Hex Key. I haven't seen the woodriver mill in the UK but the only competitors here is the Cole & Mason mechanism which is also a very good unit. Thanks for the video, very enjoyable.
I have done several of both. I prefer the crush grind. My wife loves light houses so I turned her a salt grinder light house and a pepper grinder Light house using crush grind mechanisms in both. . He have used them daily for over three years and still going strong
Hi Mike, just turned my first Peppermill last week. It was the crushgrind style. I’m only new to turning so found the sequence of turning and boring a tad complex. Think I’ll stick to the crushgrind until I get more experience. I’ve saved your video for future reference. All the best from Australia. Cheers
Good video Mike. I must confess I have made a few toy purchases and have a drill made for Crush Grind mechanism from Woodcut ( as seen demonstrated by Brendan Stemp from Australia) and Sorby tool for the notch. I was using the sawtooth bits and a recess tool from my thread chasing tools. Take care all and stay safe and well Cheers Harold
@@MikePeaceWoodturning I have a few started now will let you know how the new drill bit works. The Sorby mill recess tool is basically the same as the Sorby thread recess tool just shaped better for making the recess. Take care my friend Cheers Harold
Thanks Mike! I don't have as much experience, but I will still leave a comment. Great comparison video. One thing to consider ... is it for salt or pepper? I've been wanting to turn a set for grinding salt and pepper. Given that the Crushgrind is ceramic the chef master is carbon steel, I'll probably get the Crushgrind because it won't rust with the salt.
There are mechanisms for salt grinders so that is what I would get instead of a pepper mill mechanism. That said, I do not know anything about a salt grinder. Personally, I do not understand the purpose of a salt grinder. Seems like salt is salt. But I am not a foodie so some of those nuances escape me.
Great comparison - from the perspective of the wood turner making the grinder. Wife and I have not had a lot of luck with commercial grinders. That begs the question - how do these two products compare at the basic level of grinding peppercorns? Chuck's point about grinding salt is important. But are they adjustable? Over the same range (some times you want a fine grind, but sometimes you want coarse)? What about life expectancy - one of the problems with commercial grinders is that they fall apart after a couple of years of use.
Think they will both grind about the same but note the comment from the viewer about not having to reset the grind setting with the crushgrind after adding more pepper.
I would not want ot argue the point that iit is easier. But at $149 USD I would have to be a production pepper mill turner to justify the expense when there are other ways using conventional tools that may take a bit longer but cost nothing. YMMV. 😀✌
Habit I guess. And sometimes I move the TS while drilling. And doing the math in my head leads to mistakes since I am rarely starting with the drill tip at zero.
the tape can be much more exact and like mike sez the tailstock gets moved from time to time. also if doing several, you already have the bit marked so you just switch out your bits and go for the next step with the bit already marked to depth
Try the combination salt and pepper grinder from Penn State it is much simpler to turn and assemble and you get bot salt and pepper with the one mill. Crush grind are just to complicated and too many steps and if you want both salt and pepper you have to make two of the dammed things
Once you get set up for the Crush Grind it's a piece of cake. Crush Grind: once the setting you like is made no reason to change it as it stays. Nut on top has to be removed every time you fill it and you have to reset you grind size. Plus, you usually drop the nut if your not real careful. I have done both and settled on the Crush Grind and my customers really like them. Like you say you can play with the knob design. When I make a matching pair I will change the knob design from salt to pepper. On both you will get dusting from the salt or pepper so I came up with a "dock" to set them in that catches the dust. ( The "dock" is another item that can be sold with the pair)
Good vid and thanks for your time on it.
Cheers, Lee
Thanks for sharing, Lee. Sounds like another plus for the Crushgrind.
Another good one. I didn't realize there were any differences between the two types, let alone so many. It's always good to be armed with information.
Very true!
Hi Mike! Super cool what you do! Thanks for my present 🎁
You are so welcome
Hi Mike, Crush grind for me. I bought the woodcut mill as I had to make 10 of them. They work great for pepper, salt and dry herbs. The expense of the mill was pulled back after the 3rd unit made, the recess tool was made from a 5mm Hex Key. I haven't seen the woodriver mill in the UK but the only competitors here is the Cole & Mason mechanism which is also a very good unit. Thanks for the video, very enjoyable.
Thanks for sharing, Julian. An Allen wrench (Hex Key) sounds like a good solution for making a recess tool.
I have done several of both. I prefer the crush grind. My wife loves light houses so I turned her a salt grinder light house and a pepper grinder Light house using crush grind mechanisms in both. . He have used them daily for over three years and still going strong
Thanks for sharing!
Nicely done. I really enjoyed the comparison.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Mike, just turned my first Peppermill last week. It was the crushgrind style. I’m only new to turning so found the sequence of turning and boring a tad complex. Think I’ll stick to the crushgrind until I get more experience. I’ve saved your video for future reference. All the best from Australia. Cheers
The sequence can be tricky. Like turning a box for the first time, it almost pays to write the steps down in order to help you think through it.
I have to turn a couple out of some burl I was given. Thank you for the comparison.
The burl should be beautiful!
Good video Mike. I must confess I have made a few toy purchases and have a drill made for Crush Grind mechanism from Woodcut ( as seen demonstrated by Brendan Stemp from Australia) and Sorby tool for the notch. I was using the sawtooth bits and a recess tool from my thread chasing tools.
Take care all and stay safe and well
Cheers
Harold
Did you turn many pepper mills after getting all of the toys?
@@MikePeaceWoodturning I have a few started now will let you know how the new drill bit works. The Sorby mill recess tool is basically the same as the Sorby thread recess tool just shaped better for making the recess.
Take care my friend
Cheers
Harold
No experience but always a thumb's up Mike!😁👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Thanks going to turn my first pepper grinder
Have fun!
Thanks Mike! I don't have as much experience, but I will still leave a comment. Great comparison video.
One thing to consider ... is it for salt or pepper? I've been wanting to turn a set for grinding salt and pepper. Given that the Crushgrind is ceramic the chef master is carbon steel, I'll probably get the Crushgrind because it won't rust with the salt.
There are mechanisms for salt grinders so that is what I would get instead of a pepper mill mechanism. That said, I do not know anything about a salt grinder. Personally, I do not understand the purpose of a salt grinder. Seems like salt is salt. But I am not a foodie so some of those nuances escape me.
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Great comparison - from the perspective of the wood turner making the grinder.
Wife and I have not had a lot of luck with commercial grinders. That begs the question - how do these two products compare at the basic level of grinding peppercorns? Chuck's point about grinding salt is important. But are they adjustable? Over the same range (some times you want a fine grind, but sometimes you want coarse)? What about life expectancy - one of the problems with commercial grinders is that they fall apart after a couple of years of use.
You raise some good points, Louie. I will leave those comparisons to someone else, though. 🙂
I like the crush grind best. I have my blank just need to find the time.
So much wood and so little time, Billy!
Mike, any experience or feedback about which grind mechanism grinds pepper better?
Think they will both grind about the same but note the comment from the viewer about not having to reset the grind setting with the crushgrind after adding more pepper.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning Thanks, Mike! Good work on the video, as always. Yup, I missed the comment, and it makes sense.
Crushgrind is easy to make with the Woodcut Mill.
I would not want ot argue the point that iit is easier. But at $149 USD I would have to be a production pepper mill turner to justify the expense when there are other ways using conventional tools that may take a bit longer but cost nothing. YMMV. 😀✌
Why do you use tape on your drills to measure depth? You have an accurate measurement on the tail stock.
Habit I guess. And sometimes I move the TS while drilling. And doing the math in my head leads to mistakes since I am rarely starting with the drill tip at zero.
the tape can be much more exact and like mike sez the tailstock gets moved from time to time. also if doing several, you already have the bit marked so you just switch out your bits and go for the next step with the bit already marked to depth
Crushgrind is best for Salt grinders as it won't rust..
Good point.
Try the combination salt and pepper grinder from Penn State it is much simpler to turn and assemble and you get bot salt and pepper with the one mill. Crush grind are just to complicated and too many steps and if you want both salt and pepper you have to make two of the dammed things
Maybe they are out as I cannot find on their website. Can you provide a link?
Just got a PSI catalog in. Yes that combo kit looks good with a ceramic cutter at a reasonable price.