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I love what you're doing. Very informative and interesting. I sincerely hope you get the audience you deserve and continue to make such amazing videos growing as you do so.
I still think Whovians are incredibly lucky, since many old fans recorded the audio of the stories, took pictures of their screens and remembered the stories, we can still enjoy them in animation, audio recordings, or other such means. Also luckily, around the eighties was when Home Media began to become popular. Other sixties TV fans can’t even boast that.
For comparison the Val Doonican Show from the 60's only has roughly three episodes surviving, and at least one of them as an incomplete audio recording.
It wasn't only the BBC that did this kind of thing. In 1968 Thames Television was formed in a shotgun marriage between ABC and Rediffusion (the latter of which was the previous holder of the weekday franchise for the London region). After the merger, most of Rediffusion's output was either lost or deliberately destroyed.
This is why I always urge the Who fandom to pay perhaps a little bit more respect to Ian Levine...this one positive accomplishment of his continues to resonate to this very day as it's the very reason an effort to recover or reconstruct all of the missing episodes is STILL ongoing! 👍👍👍👍
First Doctor: "You can't change history! not one line!" Me: "I just want to get hard copies of every lost Doctor Who." First Doctor: "Oh, carry on then my boy."
@@astrosleep9625 Yes I would. I'd bring them back to the exact moment I left, which means they'd still be missing for all those years. This is a documented fixed point in time, it cannot be changed.... but it CAN be worked around.
We very very nearly lost every episode of the “Monty Python’s Flying Circus”. Terry Gilliam has a great story about a phone call he got from a BBC employee who said they were about to wipe the tapes. He got there just in time & finally talked them into selling him the tapes since all they wanted to do was record over them again. It’s a great story . Can you imagine if that stuff had been lost forever ? 🎥📺🎥📺🎥❤️🤯🤯🤯
At that time, 1) the video tapes themselves were more valuable than what was on them and 2) nobody thought there was any archival value in them, as there was no home video market then. The BBC would have wiped Monty Python's Flying Circus if they hadn't said "Give US the tapes. We'll buy you new ones."
Yeah, if marco polo were to be made i imagine it would be 2023/2024, since that would be aniversary of either who or The Story, but even then the amount of work is extreamly high, Evil being my favorite in the whole show, and its expected that either it or snowmen are next, so pumpd
The Missing Episodes are always depressing whenever they're brought up. So much history and great content that'll probably never be seen again. That being said, seeing this video and realizing so much Doctor Who content has been found over the years gives me a nice lil bit of hope
This, like all your missing episode work, is really interesting, entertaining and thought provoking. I admire all your work, and still think it a crime that your videos don't currently form part of the BBC blu-ray range special features. Thanks Josh, for your dedication, professionalism and enthusiasm in these productions. XX
Wicked new episode! The more you put out these documentaries, the more I wonder why the BBC haven't contacted you to do a special features documentary for a Doctor Who dvd release or even perhaps for a collection box set. High quality as always. Oh and Nyssa all the way!
@@charmedx3219 But once I correct the timeline they would have been here all along, thus erasing the very concept of a "missing episode" (besides Feast of Steven ofc)... wibbly wobbly timey wimey
As someone who is much better at retaining information from visual presentation over the written word or sound thank you for this breakdown, looking spiffy btw love your hair. :P
Loved the original series, super excited for this one. All your videos are so well produced and amazing. So let’s restart this journey to see what exists, where a print could be, behind the scenes facts, the best way to watch them today, and of course how many of these beloved tales that were believed to be wiped forever returned miraculously to the BBC Archive.
Fingers crossed that some of the missing episodes are found already but not ready to release them until 2023. I hope the six Philip Morris mentioned really hope one of them is The Tenth Planet Episode 4 really would like to see that one.
I’m still waiting for the day that either Marco Polo or Power of the Daleks is found (yes, I know the latter has an official animated version, but...it’s not the same...and the animation was meh at best except for Troughton)
If Pamela Nash didn’t junk those episodes that still had the rights we would’ve had Season 1 - complete Season 2 - complete Season 3 - only missing 12 episodes Season 4 - only missing 22 episodes Season 5 - only missing 6 episodes Season 6 - only missing 2 episodes We would currently be at: 43 missing episodes
I used to walk past Villiers House everyday when I lived in Ealing, you could feel the pure Levine vs. Nash ultimate face off energy emitting from the place - keep up the quality content, very excited for the next part :)
Terrific start to this series Josh. Our next DVD release here in Canada is the animated edition of Fury From The Deep on March 16. Still holding out hope that I'll be able to see this serial in it's entirety again. Peeking out from behind our couch in 1968 seems like an eternity ago...
Oh so that's what those film things in the canisters are? I always gave one to Michael Grade in case he ran out of loo roll. Hang on, I think Grade's fury from the deep is rumbling so I better go dish up some tape-spaghetti bolognese. Marco Polo might be a nice taste for the sauce?
This one hit me right in the heart and led to some appreciative sobbing. Thank GOODNESS for Ian, Sue, and Pamela for each of their efforts to save recordings of the show, and thank you for telling this story to all of us!
after watching this i went to my doctor who DVD collection and just gave it a big hug lmao I almost have a complete hartnell collection and knowing that if a few people didn't take the right actions at the right time none of this would exist hit pretty hard.
Been waiting for this series for awhile. This series is going to be fun! Loved how it sets itself apart from the original Missing Episodes documentaries.
Fantastic stuff as always. Even though I’ve read the brilliant book you quite rightly recommend, there were still a few things in here I didn’t know. To think when I started reading about stories like Tomb of the Cybermen, the Dæmons and Terror of the Autons, they were listed as missing and I thought I’d never get to see them. That I get to watch a couple of them next month for the umpteenth time, restored in hd, back in full colour, and now with 5.1 surround sound & improved effects never stops being amazing. Keep up the great work, even more appreciated just now as lots of us pace our homes, off work, just trying to keep ourselves entertained. I hope the BBC stick these on future Blu-rays, hopefully we’ll see some hd Hartnell soon. Oh, and well done in crowbarring Nyssa in there.
Got to say that was rally interesting. Maybe one day more episodes will be found,but we could have had a lot less episodes in our collections so we're lucky in that way.
Wow, the quality of this video is impressive! From the visual to the sound, everything is perfect! The subject is perfectly treated and very understandable, thank you for all that, I can't wait to see the next part.
Stunning work as always, painstakingly put together and very funny! I remember reading WIPED! when it came out so its gorg to see it all visualised so clearly
Good choice, I'd love to see that episode again. It made such an impression on me when I watched it as a kid. I had developed a bit of a crush on Sara, so I was really upset 😭
As someone who grew up on doctor who and watched the complete rerun the ABC did in the late 2000s or 2010s I can't remember. But I actually heard this story before but not so much detail and in the I interesting format you have made. So thank you for the great presentation!
Outside of doctor who one of the most heart warming missing film/television finds I think is of the restoration and finding of tapes of the 1927 film Metropolis
I’m so glad I listened to youtube and watched your missing episodes video after it was in my recommended for weeks lol. After watching that I hoped you would do videos on how the missing episodes were returned so I’m really excited for this!!!
It always boggle my brain to think that all the TV and radio signals we broadcast continue beyond our atmosphere and then travel onward forever out through space. So somewhere far away each episode is still travelling through space, if only we could find something in a far flung part of the universe that was able to naturally reflect the signals back in our direction, and then tune into the correct broadcast in amongst the other signals being reflected back, then we could one day pick up the signals and recapture all the programming from them. The signals will be flying through space at the speed of light, so we couldn't ever devise a way to out pace them and then start to intercept them when they caught up with us. I suppose the earths rotation would also be a difficulty too as any such reflected signal would probably cycle through different parts of the world every 24 hours rather than being all from one part of the earths surface.
what would happen if someone were to bring back missing episodes after their showing...you'd record them on dvd and you'd have to return them to their time..or would they suddenly disappear
In November 1998, the BBC released the surviving episodes of The Ice Warriors on VHS in a boxed set with a documentary called The Missing Years, in which someone (possibly Ian Levine, can't remember) said "There will probably always be 110 missing episodes". In January 1999, The Lion (pt 1 of The Crusade) turned up in New Zealand, taking the total down to 109. So you never know what might happen...
If I remember right, the BBC will send a life-sized Dalek from their archived props to a fan who even has partial footage from missing episodes. Maybe an old policy or something they negotiate, but there is some form of reward if you have any of the episodes recorded.
Media preservation is something a lot of people take for granted in the modern era. It's crazy to think that a show missing 97 episodes could be considered well-preserved compared to others of the time period. Not to mention the incredible luck that every episode survives in audio form.
Nice one Josh, you keep on getting better at this stuff. And anyone who throws in a Read U Wrote U reference in a missing episodes video has my eternal respect. PS. Currently in the middle of reading Richard Molesworth's book myself - brilliant reading.
Oh my! In a very real sense I was there too... in 1978 I was working, in my first job at BBC enterprises in Villiers House. In that job, one of my responsibilities was chasing countries like Nigeria, Uganda, and Japan for return of Dr who episodes. By 1989 I had progressed, following a physics degree, to working at Television Center in Television Recording. From there I moved to set up the Archive Technical services preservation area at Windmill Road in about 1993. This was the first on-site dedicated videotape preservation and digitisation suite. During that Time I had frequent involvement with many of those you named in this episode, but there are many many others, myself included, who although not necessarily recorded by history, definitely played our parts in this saga. I won't name my anonymous colleagues because it might be considered as a breach of their privacy, but we all worked hard, together with the better known players in this saga such as, for example, Steve Roberts, Ralph Montague and Paul Vanezis of the Dr Who restoration team. I think some people mistakenly imagine that there was some sort of vendetta or incompetence involved in the losses. What they fail to realise is that, as a publicly funded organisation, the BBC of the 1960's and 1970s was STRICTLY governed over what it could and could not do. As far as keeping an Archive was concerned, until the charter renewal in the mid 70's, that was actually forbidden, and so those responsible had very little freedom of action, once material had been identified as no longer required. There is also a fair bit of hearsay about this whole saga. For example missing episodes that were supposedly offered back to the BBC as recently as the late 80's and early 90's, and were according to the legend, turned down by un-named BBC staff. These stories need to be treated with a little caution, because by then, the word was out on the street that we were looking for episodes, and a few people tried to use this as a way of getting money from the BBC... "ere - I've got this film of Marco-Polo - wanna buy it back mate? I only need a very reasonable 10K up front - and then you can look at the film." Sometimes, also things were not quite as they initially seemed. I for one was once offered the missing episodes of Tenth Planet - only when I investigated it turned out to consist of only almost unusably poor quality audio on DAT tapes, and not as I had been promised, full sound and vision. Often, too, we were sent back videotape boxes that said Dr who on them, only to find that when we played them, the contents wasn't what was claimed by the label. That said I have no doubt that there were sometime also mistakes made. Sometimes the BBC, like all large organisations, suffered from one department not entirely understanding what another department was doing. In Television Centre alone there were, at one point, around 8000 employees - and many of them had very little knowledge of outside their own area of responsibility. So if you rang up, and were randomly put through to the wrong person it could easily result in an entirely wrong reply! I left the BBC in the late 90's, and for a fair bit of the rest of my career worked instead in one of the oldest and largest of the UK's regional film Archives, down in the south-west. Here there was sadly no Dr Who, to be found, but the contents were just as culturally fascinating, and important to preserve. At the end of the day, I am quietly optimistic that there is still material out there, of which we are currently unaware, waiting to be rediscovered.
Jenny, thank you so much for sharing your story. I am in complete awe of your work. I’d like to echo your sentiments on how things were handled. I truly believe everyone did the best they could, and of course mistakes are made! Thank you again for your hard work in preserving film and media for generations to come. I hope many people start celebrating what we have, rather than what we don’t. Thanks for watching!
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I love what you're doing. Very informative and interesting. I sincerely hope you get the audience you deserve and continue to make such amazing videos growing as you do so.
Only just found u today... Looks like I'll enjoy this channel.. Thank you.
Finding the missing episodes of doctor who could take months or years
Whenever I see that "NEW DOCTOR WHO MISSING EPISODE FOUND".
My heart skips a beat and goes "woooooooooo, here we go"
Best feeling ever
None of this would have happened if the 1960s BBC had just used Google Drive.
Tell me about it!
if the BBC made a 16mm copy master after it was shown and added to the archive.Then they could wipe the videotape.
As he said "Ian Levine saved the daleks!" I pulled out the DVD and held it up high.
Me too
I still think Whovians are incredibly lucky, since many old fans recorded the audio of the stories, took pictures of their screens and remembered the stories, we can still enjoy them in animation, audio recordings, or other such means. Also luckily, around the eighties was when Home Media began to become popular.
Other sixties TV fans can’t even boast that.
Sometimes life is only fair to the small amount. O how much I wish that statement wasnt true.
For comparison the Val Doonican Show from the 60's only has roughly three episodes surviving, and at least one of them as an incomplete audio recording.
It wasn't only the BBC that did this kind of thing. In 1968 Thames Television was formed in a shotgun marriage between ABC and Rediffusion (the latter of which was the previous holder of the weekday franchise for the London region). After the merger, most of Rediffusion's output was either lost or deliberately destroyed.
This is why I always urge the Who fandom to pay perhaps a little bit more respect to Ian Levine...this one positive accomplishment of his continues to resonate to this very day as it's the very reason an effort to recover or reconstruct all of the missing episodes is STILL ongoing! 👍👍👍👍
First Doctor: "You can't change history! not one line!"
Me: "I just want to get hard copies of every lost Doctor Who."
First Doctor: "Oh, carry on then my boy."
Yeah, if I had a TARDIS that'd be the first thing I'd do -- go on a Doctor Who lost episode rescue mission.
Me: ok
@@filthycasual8187 but then you wouldn't have to go back and save them so they would never be saved
@@astrosleep9625 Yes I would. I'd bring them back to the exact moment I left, which means they'd still be missing for all those years.
This is a documented fixed point in time, it cannot be changed.... but it CAN be worked around.
Somewhere Ian Levine's Spidey senses are tingling knowing that somebody has mentioned him in a video. Expect tweets....
We very very nearly lost every episode of the “Monty Python’s Flying Circus”. Terry Gilliam has a great story about a phone call he got from a BBC employee who said they were about to wipe the tapes. He got there just in time & finally talked them into selling him the tapes since all they wanted to do was record over them again. It’s a great story . Can you imagine if that stuff had been lost forever ? 🎥📺🎥📺🎥❤️🤯🤯🤯
At that time, 1) the video tapes themselves were more valuable than what was on them and 2) nobody thought there was any archival value in them, as there was no home video market then. The BBC would have wiped Monty Python's Flying Circus if they hadn't said "Give US the tapes. We'll buy you new ones."
I would really like to see Marco Polo and Evil of the Daleks
Yeah, if marco polo were to be made i imagine it would be 2023/2024, since that would be aniversary of either who or The Story, but even then the amount of work is extreamly high, Evil being my favorite in the whole show, and its expected that either it or snowmen are next, so pumpd
I really wanted to see mission to the unkown too.
You and me both, buddy. You and me both
still haven’t gotten over the fact that the bbc have never employed you to work on special features for the collection boxsets..
I second the idea of Josh Snares being hired by the BBC to produce extras like this!
😂
He’s Australian though so that’d be a bit difficult
let's just hope someday we'll forget missing episodes were a thing
The Missing Episodes are always depressing whenever they're brought up. So much history and great content that'll probably never be seen again. That being said, seeing this video and realizing so much Doctor Who content has been found over the years gives me a nice lil bit of hope
This is like something you would see on a doctor who dvd special features good job
The moment when Tomb came back was so incredible.
This, like all your missing episode work, is really interesting, entertaining and thought provoking. I admire all your work, and still think it a crime that your videos don't currently form part of the BBC blu-ray range special features. Thanks Josh, for your dedication, professionalism and enthusiasm in these productions. XX
Wicked new episode! The more you put out these documentaries, the more I wonder why the BBC haven't contacted you to do a special features documentary for a Doctor Who dvd release or even perhaps for a collection box set. High quality as always.
Oh and Nyssa all the way!
So if I ever get a TARDIS you know exactly where I'm going. Back to 1972 and saving all those episodes!
So that's why they can't be found, 2025 you has already saved them so they won't exist until 2025.
@@charmedx3219 But once I correct the timeline they would have been here all along, thus erasing the very concept of a "missing episode" (besides Feast of Steven ofc)... wibbly wobbly timey wimey
@@charmedx3219 Also interesting how you pinpoint 2025 as the year I obtain a TARDIS... you know about something I don't?
@@alicec1533 “You can’t rewrite history!!! Not! One! Line!”
The first you should save is Marco Polo.
Watching this video brings to mind that most quintessential of British expressions, “muddling through.”
Brilliant 1st episode, I can't wait for the rest of the series, your video are always of such a high quality.
Thanks Harry!
The Holy Grail series has returned!
I second this
Jon Pertwee is my favourite doctor and my collection of Pertwee stories is only missing The Sea Devils
Though some are on rewritable discs that we recorded from VHS tapes or The Horror Chanel, remember when they were showing Classic Doctor Who
Josh is still holding Daleks' Master Plan from us! Someone get down to Australia fast.
Nyooommm
As someone who is much better at retaining information from visual presentation over the written word or sound thank you for this breakdown, looking spiffy btw love your hair. :P
Thank you :)
finding lost media likes this makes you FEEL like a time traveler.
Loved the original series, super excited for this one. All your videos are so well produced and amazing. So let’s restart this journey to see what exists, where a print could be, behind the scenes facts, the best way to watch them today, and of course how many of these beloved tales that were believed to be wiped forever returned miraculously to the BBC Archive.
Watching those DVDs drop onto the table made me gasp almost as much as the wiping of the original episodes.
Fingers crossed that some of the missing episodes are found already but not ready to release them until 2023. I hope the six Philip Morris mentioned really hope one of them is The Tenth Planet Episode 4 really would like to see that one.
What an absolutely incredible video!!!! This series is quickly becoming my favourite (and we're only one episode in!!). Simply sublime! :D
I’m still waiting for the day that either Marco Polo or Power of the Daleks is found (yes, I know the latter has an official animated version, but...it’s not the same...and the animation was meh at best except for Troughton)
Yes, finally. More missing episode content, already loving this series Josh, well done. 👏
Incredible first part Josh! Looking forward to the following parts of this series! 😁
Thank you!
This is the kind of content I'm subscribed for, love these documentaries on Doctor Who.
Singapore's archives remain the 'dark horse' of missing material.
Brilliant video! It’s nice to actually have a video on this rather than reading articles online!
If Pamela Nash didn’t junk those episodes that still had the rights we would’ve had
Season 1 - complete
Season 2 - complete
Season 3 - only missing 12 episodes
Season 4 - only missing 22 episodes
Season 5 - only missing 6 episodes
Season 6 - only missing 2 episodes
We would currently be at: 43 missing episodes
I used to walk past Villiers House everyday when I lived in Ealing, you could feel the pure Levine vs. Nash ultimate face off energy emitting from the place - keep up the quality content, very excited for the next part :)
😂😂
Terrific start to this series Josh. Our next DVD release here in Canada is the animated edition of Fury From The Deep on March 16. Still holding out hope that I'll be able to see this serial in it's entirety again. Peeking out from behind our couch in 1968 seems like an eternity ago...
verdiguy I didn’t realize Fury finally had a Canadian release date!! Sucks how it takes forever for us to get the animations but now I’m excited :)
Thanks Amigo! Really fantastic content, I’m really looking forward to part 2!
When's part 2 I really liked that
Next week :)
@@JoshSnares I've clicked the bell so it should show up in my notifications this time,
Unfortunately, it was lost from the BBC archives in 1971.
The intro to this and the artwork is stunning. Fantastic!
Those cut away scenes are legendary and hystical! As always, exceptional work.
Oh so that's what those film things in the canisters are? I always gave one to Michael Grade in case he ran out of loo roll. Hang on, I think Grade's fury from the deep is rumbling so I better go dish up some tape-spaghetti bolognese. Marco Polo might be a nice taste for the sauce?
This one hit me right in the heart and led to some appreciative sobbing. Thank GOODNESS for Ian, Sue, and Pamela for each of their efforts to save recordings of the show, and thank you for telling this story to all of us!
The dimly lit room with the roundels backdrop is really giving me Battlefield vibes
Ha! I had a similar budget as the BBC (£0!)
Fabulously compiled! Looking forward to the next one
after watching this i went to my doctor who DVD collection and just gave it a big hug lmao
I almost have a complete hartnell collection and knowing that if a few people didn't take the right actions at the right time none of this would exist hit pretty hard.
Been waiting for this series for awhile. This series is going to be fun! Loved how it sets itself apart from the original Missing Episodes documentaries.
It's great to see a lot of these places and people after hearing about them for so long.
Thanks, Josh for another high-quality video!
Fantastic stuff as always. Even though I’ve read the brilliant book you quite rightly recommend, there were still a few things in here I didn’t know.
To think when I started reading about stories like Tomb of the Cybermen, the Dæmons and Terror of the Autons, they were listed as missing and I thought I’d never get to see them. That I get to watch a couple of them next month for the umpteenth time, restored in hd, back in full colour, and now with 5.1 surround sound & improved effects never stops being amazing.
Keep up the great work, even more appreciated just now as lots of us pace our homes, off work, just trying to keep ourselves entertained.
I hope the BBC stick these on future Blu-rays, hopefully we’ll see some hd Hartnell soon.
Oh, and well done in crowbarring Nyssa in there.
Lovely stuff as always Josh. You explain it so well. I love your missing episodes stuff.
A great video as always Josh, looking forward to further episodes of this series :)
Great information looking forward to part 2
This was such an interesting watch, can't wait for part 2!
Another awesome documentary Josh, excellent stuff. Looking forward to future instalments.
Got to say that was rally interesting. Maybe one day more episodes will be found,but we could have had a lot less episodes in our collections so we're lucky in that way.
Wow, the quality of this video is impressive! From the visual to the sound, everything is perfect! The subject is perfectly treated and very understandable, thank you for all that, I can't wait to see the next part.
Been following your channel for a while now. Another very informative and well made video :)
Don't regret buying this at all, it's truly a remarkable documentary!
Thank you Andrès 🥰
Thank you so much for this and fantastic jacket too.
Love these videos, keep up the good work, Josh!
Stunning work as always, painstakingly put together and very funny! I remember reading WIPED! when it came out so its gorg to see it all visualised so clearly
Brilliantly made video Josh! Great as always!
Love it Josh. Thanks again for the content. Look forward to the next part!
Thank you for watching and supporting me!
Josh, you’ve done it again! Absolutely brilliant way of explaining the complex story behind the missing eps saga. Loved it 👍
6:26 Pertwees got some funky looking trousers on there 😄😄
If there were 1 missing episode I wish would be discovered, it would be Dalek Master Plan episode 12.
Good choice, I'd love to see that episode again. It made such an impression on me when I watched it as a kid. I had developed a bit of a crush on Sara, so I was really upset 😭
I love these, not only are your videos really informative but the production quality is amazing!
As someone who grew up on doctor who and watched the complete rerun the ABC did in the late 2000s or 2010s I can't remember. But I actually heard this story before but not so much detail and in the I interesting format you have made. So thank you for the great presentation!
Outside of doctor who one of the most heart warming missing film/television finds I think is of the restoration and finding of tapes of the 1927 film Metropolis
For a second I thought some new ones had been found
Excellent as always. Brava Josh!
I’m so glad I listened to youtube and watched your missing episodes video after it was in my recommended for weeks lol. After watching that I hoped you would do videos on how the missing episodes were returned so I’m really excited for this!!!
Josh you truly are a saint for keeping the subject open fresh and interesting.
Excellent as always, Josh! Keep up the great work
I never expected this series to become a reality
Josh, I truly enjoy your Who content. Thanks for all the work you put into these!
Thank you!
I cannot wait for the next one!! I'm hooked!!
Someone needs to create an actual time machine so we can record the missing episodes
It always boggle my brain to think that all the TV and radio signals we broadcast continue beyond our atmosphere and then travel onward forever out through space. So somewhere far away each episode is still travelling through space, if only we could find something in a far flung part of the universe that was able to naturally reflect the signals back in our direction, and then tune into the correct broadcast in amongst the other signals being reflected back, then we could one day pick up the signals and recapture all the programming from them. The signals will be flying through space at the speed of light, so we couldn't ever devise a way to out pace them and then start to intercept them when they caught up with us. I suppose the earths rotation would also be a difficulty too as any such reflected signal would probably cycle through different parts of the world every 24 hours rather than being all from one part of the earths surface.
what would happen if someone were to bring back missing episodes after their showing...you'd record them on dvd and you'd have to return them to their time..or would they suddenly disappear
You are amazing. I love how a young kid loves episodes from our childhood.
Uh oh. Another series for me to become addicted to
God, I hope that number gets lower soon. Ideally I'd like everything back, but I'd be happy with everything bar Feast of Steven.
In November 1998, the BBC released the surviving episodes of The Ice Warriors on VHS in a boxed set with a documentary called The Missing Years, in which someone (possibly Ian Levine, can't remember) said "There will probably always be 110 missing episodes". In January 1999, The Lion (pt 1 of The Crusade) turned up in New Zealand, taking the total down to 109. So you never know what might happen...
If I remember right, the BBC will send a life-sized Dalek from their archived props to a fan who even has partial footage from missing episodes. Maybe an old policy or something they negotiate, but there is some form of reward if you have any of the episodes recorded.
Media preservation is something a lot of people take for granted in the modern era. It's crazy to think that a show missing 97 episodes could be considered well-preserved compared to others of the time period. Not to mention the incredible luck that every episode survives in audio form.
Nice one Josh, you keep on getting better at this stuff. And anyone who throws in a Read U Wrote U reference in a missing episodes video has my eternal respect.
PS. Currently in the middle of reading Richard Molesworth's book myself - brilliant reading.
Great presentation Josh!
Best editing work I've ever seen on a Dr who video, great work 👍
Joshua Snares, you have outdone yourself once more. Oh my God, this is brilliant!!
My guy Josh Snares new videos are on a whole new level!
I get really happy when you post, especially when its about missing episodes!
Josh Snares is the best Doctor Who RUclipsr ever.
He'd make an awesome Dr. Who.
Oh my! In a very real sense I was there too... in 1978 I was working, in my first job at BBC enterprises in Villiers House. In that job, one of my responsibilities was chasing countries like Nigeria, Uganda, and Japan for return of Dr who episodes. By 1989 I had progressed, following a physics degree, to working at Television Center in Television Recording. From there I moved to set up the Archive Technical services preservation area at Windmill Road in about 1993. This was the first on-site dedicated videotape preservation and digitisation suite.
During that Time I had frequent involvement with many of those you named in this episode, but there are many many others, myself included, who although not necessarily recorded by history, definitely played our parts in this saga. I won't name my anonymous colleagues because it might be considered as a breach of their privacy, but we all worked hard, together with the better known players in this saga such as, for example, Steve Roberts, Ralph Montague and Paul Vanezis of the Dr Who restoration team.
I think some people mistakenly imagine that there was some sort of vendetta or incompetence involved in the losses. What they fail to realise is that, as a publicly funded organisation, the BBC of the 1960's and 1970s was STRICTLY governed over what it could and could not do. As far as keeping an Archive was concerned, until the charter renewal in the mid 70's, that was actually forbidden, and so those responsible had very little freedom of action, once material had been identified as no longer required.
There is also a fair bit of hearsay about this whole saga. For example missing episodes that were supposedly offered back to the BBC as recently as the late 80's and early 90's, and were according to the legend, turned down by un-named BBC staff. These stories need to be treated with a little caution, because by then, the word was out on the street that we were looking for episodes, and a few people tried to use this as a way of getting money from the BBC... "ere - I've got this film of Marco-Polo - wanna buy it back mate? I only need a very reasonable 10K up front - and then you can look at the film."
Sometimes, also things were not quite as they initially seemed. I for one was once offered the missing episodes of Tenth Planet - only when I investigated it turned out to consist of only almost unusably poor quality audio on DAT tapes, and not as I had been promised, full sound and vision. Often, too, we were sent back videotape boxes that said Dr who on them, only to find that when we played them, the contents wasn't what was claimed by the label.
That said I have no doubt that there were sometime also mistakes made. Sometimes the BBC, like all large organisations, suffered from one department not entirely understanding what another department was doing. In Television Centre alone there were, at one point, around 8000 employees - and many of them had very little knowledge of outside their own area of responsibility. So if you rang up, and were randomly put through to the wrong person it could easily result in an entirely wrong reply!
I left the BBC in the late 90's, and for a fair bit of the rest of my career worked instead in one of the oldest and largest of the UK's regional film Archives, down in the south-west. Here there was sadly no Dr Who, to be found, but the contents were just as culturally fascinating, and important to preserve.
At the end of the day, I am quietly optimistic that there is still material out there, of which we are currently unaware, waiting to be rediscovered.
Jenny, thank you so much for sharing your story. I am in complete awe of your work.
I’d like to echo your sentiments on how things were handled. I truly believe everyone did the best they could, and of course mistakes are made!
Thank you again for your hard work in preserving film and media for generations to come.
I hope many people start celebrating what we have, rather than what we don’t.
Thanks for watching!
This is the wholesome content I needed today. Thanks!
Well that was bloody brilliant! It was really well done and super informative but still had your humour to it!
Next Sunday cannot come sooner!
Once again Josh you have made another terrific documentary. Looking forward to Part 2.
Just wonderful! Thanks Josh for another great video!
great video josh. this was so well made (and looks like it took ages to make 😂)
worth getting early access
Thanks Mark!
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