I don't know, Josh. I keep hearing from sources that I trust that lock washers provide no additional locking protection. The reasoning is sound, plus my personal experience seems to support the idea. If you truly need the additional "locking" power, then thread locker, a lock nut, or a nylon nut should be used. That's just what I have been hearing.
Thanks for HELPING the FARM GIRL to get her TRACTOR. I have been one of your farm viewers. God BLESS YOU for helping The Farm Girl get her new tractor. She's Thrilled beyond Measure.
My dad and I loved Massey Ferguson's. He bought them in the 40s 50s 60s and 70s. He did a lot of commercial weed abatement, rototilling, mowing, grading and backhoe work with that side shifting backhoe. He had a model 60, 200, 220 and a 375. He also had a John Deere backhoe throughout the years to do most of his trenching.
If you have the length on your zip ties you should wrap them around twice. If you ever need to cut them off you have some extra space to cut them without getting to close to what you are tying up. If that makes sense. I have been using zip ties for over 30 years doing electrical and telephone work. Just a little tip. Love your videos and your work ethic.👌
Man thats a pretty cool mower. Not to mention it's in great shape with low hrs, a gem to pass down to the kids and grandkids that's for sure. Good job josh
My grandpa had a 2004 massey ferguson 461, and it was a great machine. It wasn't super old, but it was very reliable. Massey last a long time. He had to sell it unfortunately because he had a heart problem and needed a cab tractor so he wasn't in the extreme heat.
I'm not a hydraulic expert either by any means but I'll pass along one thing I do know. Whenever working with hydraulics make sure the pressure is relieved before you loosen any nuts. If the pressure is not relieved it can inject hydraulic fluid into a finger or hand. Which can kill you or at the very least you just lose a limb. So, very important to relieve the pressure before breaking a line open.
Thank you, awhile back on a tool Tuesday you reviewed the Gerber dime, and the next day I showed the video to my wife and she said get it as a anniversary present. Well I used my dime for a few little tasks and it failed, that's not the end of it. I contacted Gerber and they replaced it within a couple weeks give or take a day or two. But I'm so pleased with the response I wanted to let you know so you can spread the dependability of the Gerber to your hundreds of thousands fans.
Free tip: you could put 1 or 2 stainless washers between the valve and fender at each bolt so dust and junk can fall through easily and water can dry faster, and be blown out easier too.
I think I’d change out that oil ! A tiny bit of grease will hold the o rings in place while tipping it down. As long as you are careful nut to wrap the Teflon to close to the end of the threads. Another great video!
Always love your channel and everything thing you do, especially now that MRS SR is back and is WAY more videos...so cool But you asked, so here it goes. Wrapping tape, Threaded piece in left hand, tape in right hand, flip the tape around (unwrapping backwards) Wrap up your piece. This makes it alot easier to wrap/tape your piece, and not have to mess with the "spool" Try it out, I could be wrong, but its worked for me and many others. I dont wanna be the "woulda/shoulda" guy out there on YT I hope it works as well for you as it has for me Cheers Josh, and Mrs SR you guys are a great TEAM
I’ve been looking to do the same thing to my MF. As you said no videos on RUclips for MF. I was excited to see this video however I wasn’t able to find the AGCO parts numbers you mentioned would be in the description.
I see I'm not the only one who drops nuts installing things. Another tool you might want to look into are called transfer punches. To transfer your holes locations before drilling. Pretty cheap and work great.
Well...it's not like they're gonna break the bank 5 cents v/s 7 cents and I know it will hold, it's just what I have on hand here in the shop brotha. Better to have overkill than to have garbage right?
End of video I noticed at least 3 and maybe 4 jugs/boxes of the hated DEF. Just a gentle FYI: DEF has a shelf life and is U.V. intolerant.Great job on the hydraulic upgrade.
Looks pretty good. My only concern would be whether or not you’re going to keep whacking that with your elbow. I might’ve mounted it a little higher and out-of-the-way but I’m not sure, I’d have to drive it around and get used to it to know where my elbow would go to be sure. Lol I love that tractor!
It might be a good idea to install blank hydraulic fittings to male and female fittings when the implement is not installed to keep the fittings clean or plastic plugs if you have the plugs or caps.
for every 10 rubber plugs on a hydraulic connector...there are 8 laying out in the cow pasture lol...they simply don't stay put in most cases...I'm in the process of going with flat faced connectors on all of my machines...like a skid steer
Cool old tractor. Have you ever seen an MF 1650, 1655, or 1855? I believe Snapper had the twin models to them under their name. We had two 1655s when I was a kid. They were full framed steel, tough as nails garden tractors. Had a small 3 point on the back, front, mid, and rear PTOs, shaft driven. Hydrostatic drive. The old Onan V twin engines. Ours had a solid 60" mower deck with an actual gear box and hydraulic lift and you could run rear mount tillers off of them on the 3 point, a large snow blower off the front PTO, all kinds of stuff. I've been looking for one of those again just for old times sake. Just really cool for how well built they were compared to what's considered a "Garden Tractor" now.
Glad to see you hung ole glory in your shop correctly. When displayed vertically the field of stars is on the left, annoys me when people just slap it up on the wall with out care and respect. Good work with the MF and that is one fine old tractor.
I use pipe dope and teflon tape both had a master plumber tell me to do it and I have never yet had a leak I do it on brand new tractors that come in to the dealership
rubber washer against the fenders on the inside and outside and then put your regular metal washers. Help keep the metal washers from scratching up the paint leading to more rust down the road.
Hey Josh thank you for the video I enjoyed it but remember you got to take a look at that one more timebecause remember when you took that piece off you seen it was green and you said it could beat water getting in there so you're not quite done with it yet
The Teflon tape can plug your hydro's if it gets into the system. Wrap tour drill bits with electrical tape to create a drill stop to avoid damage to surrounding components.
On My Massey the Quick connects are coming off the pump or valve and the connects are mounted on the differentials then if or when you remove the implement then the Quick connects seal the fluid inlet and returns. I'm looking to find information on either rebuilding or replacing the controls for my Bucket loader..
Good attitude and good video. Now something a tractor like this one ( and all other tractors as well for that matter) should have is "good roll-over protection" and seatbelts fitted, and worn, - because early Ferguson tractors have a reputation as "widow makers" for a reason, like the tractor can very easily flip ower backward, or roll over on embankments or obstructions etc, or the operator somehow manage to fall, or jump off the moving tractor into the path of a rear wheel, or towed implement...😓 You could promote safety around equipment as part of your informative videos because many people may not realize the hazards such machinery or tools etc, can pose if they haven't been informed by someone who know.🤔 Stay safe, regards Niels.
Enjoyed the video but I cringed when you didn’t protect the metal from rust! Also, it may have been a trick of the light, but it looked to me as though the paint cracked when you tightened the bolt up. I take the point that it won’t rust through for a long time, but a rust patch looks unsightly and that 240 looks to be in such great condition. Someone once told me to wrap an elastic band around your drill bit to create a stop so that it can’t run through too far. Apart from that, great job, I know that I couldn’t make such a good job of it: I’m all fingers and thumbs when to comes to spanners!
@4:17 your finger is on the old hydraulic coupler. To connect or disconnect the hydraulic hose, the outer ring had to be slid forward. I cannot tell if the new coupler will allow a hose connection by just pushing the hose in. To disconnect, the connecting hose is pulled. Either connector needs some slack in the hydraulic line between the valve and connector bracket. With the old connector, something had to break if the connecting hose was pulled without the outer ring being pushed forward.
Standard lock washers don't provide that much, if any, protection from vibration. They do keep them from instantly becoming totally loose if the bolt backs out at all, though.
Me and my dad can't wait aswell to go look for a tractor soon since me and my parents recently went in together and purchased property. We are planning to look at several brands since we have several dealerships around here where we live.
Grade 8 bolts are way overkill for an application like that. The bolts will pull through that fender long before the standard bolts break. I would be using fender washers on that fender to spread out the stress and reduce the possibility of pulling those bolts through after a few years of vibration holding that hunk of iron on there. Fender washers come in handy for many applications. My dad had a Massey Ferguson dealer add a couple extra valves to his Massey Ferguson, for top & tilt, and they bolted the valve body directly on top of the transmission. I would try to avoid bolting anything heavy to a fender. Over time that sheet metal can crack and split out like a spider web. My dad always bolted his onboard tool boxes to the loader frames. Never to a fender. In fact his hydraulic couplers were bolted on to the differential, not the fender.
I think I would have ran the bolts from the tire side of the fender to hang the valve on that way you are turning the lock nuts on the valve side of the application. either way works.
what model spool valve is that, was it a kit or did you just put it all together? do you have any other part numbers? i would like to do the exact thing to our 240
P there should be some information somewhere you can still buy that tractor new in fact I might have the owner's manual and repair manual on that tractor for a new one in my shop
Josh let u know the tube in the Senter of the valve comes out and the other o ring goes on the bottem of it so it takes 2 and also tax hase a thread sealer that works really good with hydraulic it’s back in a hydraulic area it’s like $30 a bottle but it worth it
Josh Next time only use a lock washer. When you use a flat washer with a lock washer the flat washer will turn and let the nut back off because the flat washer will not bite in the metal ..I hope that makes sense.
I don't know, Josh. I keep hearing from sources that I trust that lock washers provide no additional locking protection. The reasoning is sound, plus my personal experience seems to support the idea. If you truly need the additional "locking" power, then thread locker, a lock nut, or a nylon nut should be used. That's just what I have been hearing.
This is true. Vibration is brutal to fastened joints and lock washers don't protect against that very well.
Look into Nord-lock washers. We use them in severe construction and mining applications. They will survive anything a farm tractor can throw at them.
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I have looked into those. They are quite interesting.
Nylok fasteners are a must have for any upgrades like you are doing. I have some in bulk for my shop.
4th oring for stand pipe that was protruding from the lift cover.
Thanks for HELPING the FARM GIRL to get her TRACTOR. I have been one of your farm viewers. God BLESS YOU for helping The Farm Girl get her new tractor. She's Thrilled beyond Measure.
I grew up using a Massey Ferguson 245. Dad bought it new in about 1980 and still has it. They are great tractors.
My dad and I loved Massey Ferguson's. He bought them in the 40s 50s 60s and 70s.
He did a lot of commercial weed abatement, rototilling, mowing, grading and backhoe work with that side shifting backhoe.
He had a model 60, 200, 220 and a 375.
He also had a John Deere backhoe throughout the years to do most of his trenching.
Josh just wanted to say Thanks for helping out the WT farm girl with getting her new tractor she really needed it.
I too was glad to see you helped out...it is nice to see you helping out!
Thank you Josh for helping WT farm girl get their new tractor . They needed a second tractor on the farm .
If you have the length on your zip ties you should wrap them around twice. If you ever need to cut them off you have some extra space to cut them without getting to close to what you are tying up. If that makes sense. I have been using zip ties for over 30 years doing electrical and telephone work. Just a little tip. Love your videos and your work ethic.👌
love your positive attitude and "can do" work ethic. I've never seen you afraid to try anything.
Man, I never realized how nice of a tractor that was. It’s clean!
Thanks for helping WT Farm Girl That Family is very special
Thanks for the help and advice you gave to Susanne (WTF Farm girl) that tractor is just exactly what she needs.
Man thats a pretty cool mower. Not to mention it's in great shape with low hrs, a gem to pass down to the kids and grandkids that's for sure. Good job josh
My grandpa had a 2004 massey ferguson 461, and it was a great machine. It wasn't super old, but it was very reliable. Massey last a long time. He had to sell it unfortunately because he had a heart problem and needed a cab tractor so he wasn't in the extreme heat.
Thanks for sharing that install. Thought I was the only one that dropped bolts when assembling something. Nice job.
I'm not a hydraulic expert either by any means but I'll pass along one thing I do know. Whenever working with hydraulics make sure the pressure is relieved before you loosen any nuts. If the pressure is not relieved it can inject hydraulic fluid into a finger or hand. Which can kill you or at the very least you just lose a limb. So, very important to relieve the pressure before breaking a line open.
Thanks for helping WT Farm Girl! Your a good guy, keep up the great work!
Thank you, awhile back on a tool Tuesday you reviewed the Gerber dime, and the next day I showed the video to my wife and she said get it as a anniversary present. Well I used my dime for a few little tasks and it failed, that's not the end of it. I contacted Gerber and they replaced it within a couple weeks give or take a day or two. But I'm so pleased with the response I wanted to let you know so you can spread the dependability of the Gerber to your hundreds of thousands fans.
Love how clean and nice that 240 is!
Free tip: you could put 1 or 2 stainless washers between the valve and fender at each bolt so dust and junk can fall through easily and water can dry faster, and be blown out easier too.
Tip for drilling towards tires, Hold a block of wood or sheet metal behind where your drilling. You will hit the block before the tire.
I think I’d change out that oil !
A tiny bit of grease will hold the o rings in place while tipping it down.
As long as you are careful nut to wrap the Teflon to close to the end of the threads.
Another great video!
Good -was going to post an advice to use a smidgen of grease on the o-rings to hold in place.
Always love your channel and everything thing you do, especially now that MRS SR is back and is WAY more videos...so cool
But you asked, so here it goes. Wrapping tape, Threaded piece in left hand, tape in right hand, flip the tape around (unwrapping backwards) Wrap up your piece.
This makes it alot easier to wrap/tape your piece, and not have to mess with the "spool"
Try it out, I could be wrong, but its worked for me and many others.
I dont wanna be the "woulda/shoulda" guy out there on YT
I hope it works as well for you as it has for me
Cheers Josh, and Mrs SR you guys are a great TEAM
I just sold my Massey Ferguson 235 last week. Great old tractors! 🚜
Nicer to update the older than to buy newer..
Have a good day 🌷🌷🌷
I like the addition of the work music.
Kudos to you Josh for helping WT Farm Girl get her new tractor !!
I’ve been looking to do the same thing to my MF. As you said no videos on RUclips for MF. I was excited to see this video however I wasn’t able to find the AGCO parts numbers you mentioned would be in the description.
That's not an AGCO kit, it came from SMA/Tisco. A & I Products has a better kit.
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Thanks, I was hoping someone would jump in. Thanks Again
Thats the quickest hydraulic valve hookup I've seen
Nice job! I have an old MF 250. Great tractor... Couldn't manage without it.
On massey 240s there is accommodation for remote hydraulics on the SMV sign bracket, speaking of the quick connect end.
I see I'm not the only one who drops nuts installing things. Another tool you might want to look into are called transfer punches. To transfer your holes locations before drilling. Pretty cheap and work great.
The nyloc nut makes sense but the grade 8 bolts are just over kill. Standard bolts are plenty strong enough to support that valve assembly.
Well...it's not like they're gonna break the bank 5 cents v/s 7 cents and I know it will hold, it's just what I have on hand here in the shop brotha. Better to have overkill than to have garbage right?
End of video I noticed at least 3 and maybe 4 jugs/boxes of the hated DEF. Just a gentle FYI: DEF has a shelf life and is U.V. intolerant.Great job on the hydraulic upgrade.
You are right. When it’s not long, skills do matter.
We want to thank you for helping wt farm girl get a 2nd tractor
Thank you for helping W.T.farm Girl 👍
Happy blessed Saturday brother!! Y’all have a great weekend!
thanks for this , we're getting an early 70's 135 .
Have a great weekend!
Looks pretty good. My only concern would be whether or not you’re going to keep whacking that with your elbow. I might’ve mounted it a little higher and out-of-the-way but I’m not sure, I’d have to drive it around and get used to it to know where my elbow would go to be sure. Lol I love that tractor!
Always need more tractors on the farm! Looking for my third now.
Josh Great video. This what I want to add to my MF 231. Could you supply the part numbers ort kit number? Thanks
LOVE that Massey!! Great video!
It might be a good idea to install blank hydraulic fittings to male and female fittings when the implement is not installed to keep the fittings clean or plastic plugs if you have the plugs or caps.
for every 10 rubber plugs on a hydraulic connector...there are 8 laying out in the cow pasture lol...they simply don't stay put in most cases...I'm in the process of going with flat faced connectors on all of my machines...like a skid steer
Cool old tractor. Have you ever seen an MF 1650, 1655, or 1855? I believe Snapper had the twin models to them under their name. We had two 1655s when I was a kid. They were full framed steel, tough as nails garden tractors. Had a small 3 point on the back, front, mid, and rear PTOs, shaft driven. Hydrostatic drive. The old Onan V twin engines. Ours had a solid 60" mower deck with an actual gear box and hydraulic lift and you could run rear mount tillers off of them on the 3 point, a large snow blower off the front PTO, all kinds of stuff. I've been looking for one of those again just for old times sake. Just really cool for how well built they were compared to what's considered a "Garden Tractor" now.
What website do you get hydraulic line from
Glad to see you hung ole glory in your shop correctly. When displayed vertically the field of stars is on the left, annoys me when people just slap it up on the wall with out care and respect. Good work with the MF and that is one fine old tractor.
I would try to find some caps for the Hydraulic hook ups so dirt and other debris does not get in it.
Loving this install video! That you for showing how to do a Lillie upgrade on that cool ol Massey!
Boy that 240 is a clean looking massey ferguson
Great video Josh
Good job🎉❤
I use pipe dope and teflon tape both had a master plumber tell me to do it and I have never yet had a leak I do it on brand new tractors that come in to the dealership
rubber washer against the fenders on the inside and outside and then put your regular metal washers. Help keep the metal washers from scratching up the paint leading to more rust down the road.
Hey man, do you have the part number of a link for that secondary hydro. I have a Massey that needs one also. Thanks
Good job Josh appreciate the videos buddy
Glad to see you pass 1/2 million subs. You deserve it.
Nice looking tractor Josh
Hey Josh thank you for the video I enjoyed it but remember you got to take a look at that one more timebecause remember when you took that piece off you seen it was green and you said it could beat water getting in there so you're not quite done with it yet
Love Northern Tool!!! (Just got the newest catalog yesterday!!)
Does yours float on the ground with this set up? I would think you would need a valve with a float detent for the mower to work on uneven ground.
The Teflon tape can plug your hydro's if it gets into the system. Wrap tour drill bits with electrical tape to create a drill stop to avoid damage to surrounding components.
I really like that brush guard, was that built or bought? I'm thinking about adding one to my 231
you can find them online buddy
Enjoyed the video. Very helpful. I'm subscribed. Thanks
Love your all videos
Cool tractor bro
where did you get the hydraulic valve kit?
On My Massey the Quick connects are coming off the pump or valve and the connects are mounted on the differentials then if or when you remove the implement then the Quick connects seal the fluid inlet and returns. I'm looking to find information on either rebuilding or replacing the controls for my Bucket loader..
Good attitude and good video.
Now something a tractor like this one ( and all other tractors as well for that matter) should have is "good roll-over protection" and seatbelts fitted, and worn, - because early Ferguson tractors have a reputation as "widow makers" for a reason, like the tractor can very easily flip ower backward, or roll over on embankments or obstructions etc, or the operator somehow manage to fall, or jump off the moving tractor into the path of a rear wheel, or towed implement...😓 You could promote safety around equipment as part of your informative videos because many people may not realize the hazards such machinery or tools etc, can pose if they haven't been informed by someone who know.🤔
Stay safe, regards Niels.
I see a rip on the upgraded seat. How long did it last before it ripped .
chyna!! About a year
Josh Suzanne from WT farm Girl said thanks for helping her get a 2nd tractor.
Well, you sure made that look easy.
Clean job Josh - nice.
I have to replace all mine and add another just thinking about this very thing thanks Josh
Hi Josh I would have reversed the bolt to make it easier to install.
Enjoyed the video but I cringed when you didn’t protect the metal from rust! Also, it may have been a trick of the light, but it looked to me as though the paint cracked when you tightened the bolt up. I take the point that it won’t rust through for a long time, but a rust patch looks unsightly and that 240 looks to be in such great condition.
Someone once told me to wrap an elastic band around your drill bit to create a stop so that it can’t run through too far.
Apart from that, great job, I know that I couldn’t make such a good job of it: I’m all fingers and thumbs when to comes to spanners!
@4:17 your finger is on the old hydraulic coupler. To connect or disconnect the hydraulic hose, the outer ring had to be slid forward. I cannot tell if the new coupler will allow a hose connection by just pushing the hose in. To disconnect, the connecting hose is pulled. Either connector needs some slack in the hydraulic line between the valve and connector bracket.
With the old connector, something had to break if the connecting hose was pulled without the outer ring being pushed forward.
Nice tractor
Standard lock washers don't provide that much, if any, protection from vibration. They do keep them from instantly becoming totally loose if the bolt backs out at all, though.
Hi...... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
Been dealing with Northern when they were Northern Hydraulic's. They are great for there quaulity.
I can't wait to buy a tractor!!
Me and my dad can't wait aswell to go look for a tractor soon since me and my parents recently went in together and purchased property. We are planning to look at several brands since we have several dealerships around here where we live.
Looks good, very nice 🌿
Great job Josh xx
Grade 8 bolts are way overkill for an application like that.
The bolts will pull through that fender long before the standard bolts break.
I would be using fender washers on that fender to spread out the stress and reduce the possibility of pulling those bolts through after a few years of vibration holding that hunk of iron on there.
Fender washers come in handy for many applications.
My dad had a Massey Ferguson dealer add a couple extra valves to his Massey Ferguson, for top & tilt, and they bolted the valve body directly on top of the transmission.
I would try to avoid bolting anything heavy to a fender. Over time that sheet metal can crack and split out like a spider web.
My dad always bolted his onboard tool boxes to the loader frames. Never to a fender.
In fact his hydraulic couplers were bolted on to the differential, not the fender.
Can you tell me the agco part #s for the remotes you add to the tractor. Can find them in the info
I think I would have ran the bolts from the tire side of the fender to hang the valve on that way you are turning the lock nuts on the valve side of the application. either way works.
thanks for the help with the tym tactor from wtfarmgirl
Your oil did look milky good video 📹
Is this secondary hydraulic control an actual AGCO part? Or an aftermarket part? Part#.
what model spool valve is that, was it a kit or did you just put it all together? do you have any other part numbers? i would like to do the exact thing to our 240
Really handy
Dont let him fool you, folks. When a guy as big as Josh says " I'm gonna' snug it down pretty tight" it is probably ON THERE !
P there should be some information somewhere you can still buy that tractor new in fact I might have the owner's manual and repair manual on that tractor for a new one in my shop
Good stuff buddy
What are the part #'s of the remote system you used?
Josh let u know the tube in the Senter of the valve comes out and the other o ring goes on the bottem of it so it takes 2 and also tax hase a thread sealer that works really good with hydraulic it’s back in a hydraulic area it’s like $30 a bottle but it worth it
Great video Josh 🇺🇲 WOOOOOO 🇺🇲
would you consider the idea of selling the ferguson tractor?
Josh Next time only use a lock washer. When you use a flat washer with a lock washer the flat washer will turn and let the nut back off because the flat washer will not bite in the metal ..I hope that makes sense.
Where in the world did you buy that, i cant find it anywhere, and you sure didnt put the link in the description