Missabe & Western 22: Diesel servicing area time-lapse
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- In this video, I narrate time-lapse footage of me hard at work (or hardly working - depending on your viewpoint) creating the diesel servicing area for the city of Duluth. A short grade on the access track allows this area to be placed over the paper-mill spurs on the opposite side of the backdrop for maximum utilization of the available space. It also adds some elevation change to the area, breaking up the flat look.
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The "Mark I" human eyeball. Brilliant!!
Not only is it the best alignment tool ever, but they come in pairs as standard issue at birth.
That's not time lapse. That's you after drinking all those mountain Dews! Great job on the layout. Always look forward to your videos.
Enjoyable, instructive, and awe inspiring. thank you for sharing all your incredible, meticulous work.
Fantastic presentation, Thank You for posting!
In woodworking for transferring patterns, we use a wheel with points on it. you just follow the lines and it leaves a line of dots to follow. I think that would work great for you instead of cutting up your plans. Great videos and an epic layout. keep them coming
I have one, called a "pounce wheel", but it doesn't give enough of a line for this application.
Fascinating. These time lapse videos with your narration is definitely the superior manner of presentation.
Yes, I'm liking this format as well, although it is a lot more work to produce so don't expect one every week.
No matter how you show it, it’s all great watching the master. THANKS
Whatever format you choose is fine by me, I’m just glad that you share your professional techniques with us. Your videos are always the first model railroad videos I go to when I see the list of what’s available. I have watched all of your videos numerous times and with each one I always think that the current one will be less impressive and each time I am happily surprised that it is informative and intriguing. Thank you for sharing your work.
Love the time lapse during construction.
This is quite a large project. It's really neat watching it come together. 👍
Thats looking great Peter. Lovely layout to run trains on. Master piece. Just glad i'm not paying the bills . Lol
Agreed !! I can't even imagine the cost of this project. Literally tens of thousands 😲😲
Amazing craftsmanship!
That is quite build for sure. Impressive and informative.
Greetings from the UK, love your videos and your work amazes me. I've always lived model railways but never had one myself, I'm now thinking of making a small n gauge layout myself. Thank you
Thank you for taking the time to record this viedo. Each time I watch I learn something new.
This has been so fun watching your progress and I look forward to seeing each new segment. 😊
Great video. Thank you for sharing your tips and tricks, I always pick a few up watching. Stay safe. Ken
Super job and looking for as always to whatever you share next! Have an incredible week! Thanks. T4
Thank you for sharing - most enjoyable and will be terrific when finished. Does inspire me to carry on with own layout (not in that league, obviously)
and again cant wait to see the rest ! just amazing ! Take care and greetings from Hamburg, Germany
A large model railroad is a major undertaking and will take years to complete. I will continue to publish updates as they become available.
As always excellent job 👏...
Glad things are going great Peter!
Thanks for sharing the build 👍
Really like the time-lapse idea...
Coming along nicely Peter..
Great job gonna look even better when you get the structures and scenery done
Scenery has already been started. Structures will take a little longer.
@@mpeterll looking forward to the videos you got a real talent for making it all look real
Fantastic work ethic!!! I agree with Florian, you after a case of power up.
Good job man thank you for the video looks like you make a quite a good living on doing that you're very talented man appreciate your videos
Servus mpll, thank you for this video, this is the most spectacular layout I know, please send regular construction videos and later driving videos (XXL), that would be fantastic, best regards from Austria.
I have been sending updates as fast as I am able, and will continue to do so. All precious updates for this project are available in my "Missabe & Western" playlist.
Hello Peter. I really enjoy the time-lapse with the voice over format. I’m curious, before this build commenced, was there an agreed upon completion date between you and your client? It’s such a massive undertaking, I just wondered. Thanks. See ya next time. I like you mixing up your videos.
There's never a completion date for a railroad of this magnitude, especially when built by just one person. When it was still in my own workshop, I worked on it full time, but now it's just three weeks at a time few times a year. If the client wants to hire me to build the structures, I will built those at home to save time.
Nice work Peter 👍👍
Impressionnant ! Bravo
Best regards sir
Amazing to watch. By my calculations you have spent 7 weeks installing. Now that was made easier due to your printed track plan and pre cut ( mostly) framing but you spent time making turnouts and stuff ahead of time. You put a lot of time in designing, ( with great accuracy may I add), and printing layout on 1 ft to the ft. Scale paper.
So all said and done, how much time will the entire job take? Yes there is more designed to come but not for quite awhile. Just this part. Did you make any buildings and trees for this layout?
Just started on the trees. No structures as of yet.
Amazing, very nice... I have subscribe your Chanel... I love landscape modelling.. Grettings from Switzerland Alex 😊😊👍👍
Landscape fill follow. I like that part too.
Hello. Nice.. I have also a nice Chanel.. Thank you.. Greetings from Switzerland Alex 😊😊👍👍
Your railroad is coming along well.
that layout is going to be fun
Hi Peter, what an amazing project. What camera did you use for the time lapse? PS. I am buying lottery tickets too!
what kind of rails do you prefer? nickel or stainless?
I really like this type of video, what gauge are using for feeders?
I'm using 18-gauge but that is a little on the heavy side and requires snipping a few strands off before attaching to the rails. 20-gauge is probably better.
Looking great
thank you for sharing video
Peter, I really like the voice-over a time-lapse-video format. It provides more insight to how you actually build than did your previous format of discussion interspersed in short videos and stills.
As with everything else associated with this layout this diesel servicing facility is enormous! The ramp up from the yard seems quite steep but as it is essentially locomotives only (I expect that the fuel and sand supply transfers will be only half a dozen cars at a time, give or take) so it should not pose any significant problems. More concerning though is the power supply for this area, is it its own discreet power district? With such a large loco storage capability, if it is anywhere near full this area could have a very high current draw, especially if a significant portion of the client's locomotives are sound equipped. If that is the case then even starting the layout will be a problem as the in-rush current of so many sound equipped locomotives will likely trip the power protection system. I would have expected you to have provided isolation switches for each track so they can be turned on in sequence thereby limiting start up in-rush current to a level where the power protection system does not trip (you this for the steam locomotive facility, one switch per 3 stalls).
But very nice work as ever and a joy to watch.
Best Cheers!
Each track has it's own isolating switch, so only one track full of locomotives need ever be on at a time. One of my pet peeves with sound-equipped locomotives is the cacophony of noise around engine terminals with too many sound chips blasting away. On my previous railroad, I only had three sound-equipped locomotives and I would schedule operating sessions so that only one of them was in use at a time. In a 13'-square room, multiple sound decoders on at the same time would have detracted from rather than added to the operating experience.
@@mpeterll So I should have been a bit more patient and waited for the next video when you wire the area! I fully agree with you about having too many sound equipped locos running at the same time, especially idling in servicing facilities and staging yards. They become an overbearing flood of sound that can be very off putting, especially at the factory default volume level which is almost always far too high anyway so I always turn them down significantly. But some do like that so power supply and distribution to such areas becomes more important and challenging on their layouts. Thanks for the quick answer.
Very informative. Thanks for sharing this. It’s an impressive layout. What type of adhesive do you use to glue your turnouts to the roadbed? Is it reversible if you ever have to replace or repair a turnout? Thanks, Kennedy
I use a glue called "Crafters Pick". It's available from Hobby lobby. It sticks permanently, so the only way to get the track up again for adjustment afterwards is to slide a long knife blade in from the side and cut the glue. Replacing a piece of damaged track is easier however if you're not trying to salvage the track. One can just rip it up and the surface of the roadbed comes away with it. Since the total area with glue is relatively small, there is still enough of the foam remaining to install another piece.
I'm enjoying these build videos very much. One question if I may. How would you access any vehicles that derailed or got uncoupled in those hidden sidings? There doesn't seem to be any access.
This is the main reason why I redid the layer above with that extra half-inch of clearance. Access to that area is not easy but still possible. The only reason I couldn't get in far enough from the end to install those feeder wires is that the main lines in front are on a rising grade and I couldn't line up my arm properly. The two long spurs parallel to the edge are accessible from underneath through the gap along the front. The short ones that run diagonally can be reached partially from each end. There's no reason for cars to derail on plain track that is properly laid so it shouldn't happen often enough to be a problem.
@@mpeterll I used to build 4mm scale exhibition layouts. Even with perfectly laid track, the unexpected could and did happen, always in the most awkward areas haha. The build is looking great. I wasn't criticising, was merely curious 😀
@@jeffsymons4535 Yes, I realize it will happen occasionally so I had to make sure that access is possible. It's not what I would call convenient, but at least it's only spurs that will be switched at most once per operating session. If a car does derail in there, it won't be a big deal to leave it until after the session rather than interrupt the flow of operation by dealing with it immediately. I had a spur on my last railroad that went three-feet inside a structure. Access would have required removing the front annex of the structure but in over a dozen operating sessions, I never had to get in there to recover a car. It might have been a different story if operators were switching blind, but I always suggested that they leave the string of cars sticking out just enough to see it. This area can be handled the same way.
Howzit : As Usual; Great To Watch The Prog-Gress Being Made. To My Mind; The Time-Lapse Option Is A 50 / 50 Call; But Certainly THE Correct Choice When Repetitive; But Extensive Trackwork Is Being Carried Out ! Of Importance In All Matters DCC Was Your Almost Throw-Away Line That * Every Piece Of Track MUST Have Its Own Feed * .... As With My Two Layouts; Along With Exacting Trackwork From The Very Outset; Individual Feeders Are An Essential Pre-Requisite For Subsequent Enjoyable / Reliable DCC-Powered OpS ! Thanks + Cheers For Now / Johnny
Great video! 👏👍
LG Seven😎
I'm not sure I understand what the reference "LG seven" refers to.
@@mpeterll Hi,
Seven is my name
LG means love greetings !
Thank you once more Peter. Really useful. Question if I may? Some solder drop wires to the underside of the rails to hide them. Most solder to the outside of the rail, as you do. What are you views on these two methods please? I am working in N scale (Peco code 55) so I am trying to hide the droppers, and mine is a tiny layout compared with the ones you work on, so I guess I can fiddle about. No wonder it takes me so long!!! Cheers and take care Peter.
When it was just a hobby and I was doing it for myself, I would attach the feeder wires to the bottoms of the rails. Unfortunately, that takes so much longer that for a commercial build it's not justifiable for the very slight improvement in appearance. I snip off a few of the strands of each feeder to make then less visible, and once the track is painted I barely see them.
I work in N scale and solder the feeders to the bottom of the rails as I lay track (PECO code 55). Easy peasy. I’ve never understood doing it any other way. So much extra throuble….
Cool! Good job! Stéph.
Tell me what kind of lining do you use when laying the rails, what is black canvas?
Could you add a link to what you are using for "foam rubber?"
The foam that I'm using for this railroad is not currently available, but I am in the process of experimenting with an alternative. I will post a video with my findings when I'm done.
Just awsome
I do like the time lapse videos where it does require a lot of details. It shows the basic details of the build without the doldrums of a long drawn out video when it's not required.
If you don't mind me asking, what adhesive do you use to glue the track to the foam road bed. I've seen many use a silicon type adhesive.
From memory, he's just using white PVA glue. He does have a non-timelapse video of laying track which goes through the details.
It's called "Crafters' Pick", available at Hobby Lobby.
Hi Peter, I'm sure you've mentioned this before, but what is it exactly that you are using for roadbed? It looks a lot more cost-effective than the premade cork strips. Thanks!
On this layout, I'm using EVA foam, but that has become difficult to find recently so I'm currently experimenting with neoprene. I will be presenting my findings in a video soon.
Super nice train 👌👍.
Best regards Gert
How accessible are those sidings you just built over?
I've answered that question. Se Jeff Symons comment above.
Wow you sure now what your doing !! If I were to have a layout built as I said before you would be the one I’d hire !! I’m learning to build but not on your level !!
Jut keep doing it and you will improve. We all start out as beginners. As you get better at it, don't be afraid to tear out and redo earlier areas that no longer come up to your current standards.
Awesome 👏
So, who put out all the locos - you or the client? 😁
Most were already on his display shelves although some were still in boxes. I transferred them to the railroad and programmed them one consist at a time.
So, just a stupid question... how many yard of track do you have planned to lay down?
He reminds me of the transcontinental railroad. He can lay a box a day.
@@blainedunlap4242 When I was doing the staging yards, I was laying three boxes a day.
@@mpeterll Make a plaque next time like the one for the 10-mile day of the Central Pacific and place it somewhere in the yard.
@@blainedunlap4242 In my days of hand-spiking track, I was planning on doing something similar when I got a bigger train room. I would have had all the ties ballasted ahead of time and attempt to hand-spike a scale mile in one day.
Awesome!
When I win the lottery your coming to my house!!!
You'd better start buying loads of tickets then :-)
Presumably the client has been collecting rolling stock over the years?
How are you putting the tracks beneath the diesel servicing area?
I made sure that those were finished and bulletproof prior to building the bench-work above them because it would be just about impossible afterwards. The same goes for helixes.
@@mpeterll gotchya. Just from the look of the camera it appeared that the tracks extending under the servicing area from the backdrop of the industry on the other side didn't look like they were in place. Time to watch the episode again on a bigger screen!
@@Leviathan609 I showed those tracks being laid in an earlier video.
The first video of this build was one year ago.
What are using to glue the track down?
"Crafters Pick", available at Hobby Lobby.
@@mpeterll thank you for the information. I have another question I hope you can help with, I have started to buy track and switches, I have some Walthers switches, peco flex track and I plan on buying some of your curved turnouts, I notice that then Peco nickel silver color is a pinker shade than the others, is there a problem mixing track? Maybe this is not an issue to worry about and I will be the only one who notices the shade difference. What rail do you use on your turnout?
Wonderfull^^^^
There are only three categories with that level of redundancy, airliners, submarines, and your railroads.
I know you meant this as a compliment, but I'm not sure what redundancy you are referring to. I thought everything I included was necessary.
@@mpeterll Every piece of track has a feed. That is a very high standard of reliability. 500 ft. of feed wire. That's a lot. I would say, that this is the difference between a good railroad and a professional one. So yes, if you want perfect reliability, zero faults, no maintenance, it is necessary. I retrospect, that's what we all want. Just don't see it. so often.
@@blainedunlap4242 Thanks for explaining what you meant. Feeding every rail is the recommended way, and the way I've always done it. Actually, on my previous layout where I hand spiked every inch of visible rail and didn't use rail joiners at all, I had TWO feeders to every rail just in case one went bad.
BTW: That's 500ft of red 18-gauge wire. I purchased both 12 and 18-ga wire in ten colors + green feeder wide for the frogs - about 2 miles of wire in total, excluding turnout control wires.
Standing on a toolbox is not always the smart thing to do (speaking out of experience: it holds me until that day it did not....)
It's a heavy duty toolbox, although I'll rethink that strategy for next time. Thanks for the warning.