kenny when you read peoples comments remember that most of the time people are not telling you about stuff because they think you don't know it, they are really just telling you because it is important to them that YOU know that THEY know it ....great videos btw you been teaching me stuff left and right!!
With all the demonstrated knowledge you have already shown, it amazes me when someone suggests a "better way." I always chuckle when new plumbers think they are "dropping knowledge" on me, and I explain to them why "their idea" would not work in the present situation. And letting them know I knew of their suggestion back in the 1900's, before they were ever a glint in their daddies eye.
@@gordbaker896 That is true, many of the "old" ways won't work today, but sometimes they do. As a young man I always listened to the old guys, because they have been there before and I don't want to make the same mistakes. Now days the young guys look at us like we're stupid, they have to make the mistake on their own to learn. Then it kills them to say you were right.
Kenny, I learn something from you almost every day. Including today. I was away on vacation so now I'm back catching up on all the videos that I missed. Thank you for all you do for us home gamers and part time wrenchers like myself. Don't even give the haters or know it all types another thought. They don't even deserve to be mentioned. Everybody knows there are different ways to do different jobs. Most of the time your years of experience have allowed you to show us an innovative way to get things done. Something that only comes with years of experience. Thanks again!
I like your attitude and approach. I DID get something out of this. I remember giving up once on a friend's car and resorting to the Sawzall. It was a hairy procedure for me at only fifteen, and with a tiny bit of skill and a whole lotta luck, I cut the nut off and did not visibly damage the threads on the stud, somehow. But maybe if I'd continued spinning I could have skipped that dicey surgery... I'd definitely try that next time instead.
Stripped bolts never a joy! U handled your wheel stud perfectly. Had a similar problem on a 2006 PT Cruiser Turbo GT. When trying to remove lug nuts an impact wouldn't move them. Used a socket, flex T handle and a four foot snipe. Only worked on one lug nut per wheel. All the other factory MoPar lug nuts sheared off at the top of the lug nut cone. The factory wheels were fitted with a plastic cover as part of the wheel. This cover had a plastic chrome paint finish. Thus, I was hesitant of using acetone based penetrants or heat to free up the electrolysis bond between the ferris metal lug nuts and the alloy lug nuts. The solution was to drill out sixteen wheel studs, replace all wheel studs and replace the defective Mopar lug nuts with after market all steel lug nuts. The factory lug nuts were of an alloy with a stainless steel cover cap. The problem was not rust but electrolysis from the dissimilar metals of the stud and nut. Once sorted a complete tire replacement strut replacement, full brake replacement and control arm bushings replacement. ( R/R of the control arms was another nightmare) The customer was very understanding and paid for all extra hours. He has an attachment to the vehicle that is refreshing.
When I lived in the rust belt, I would grease my studs. I know you're not supposed to do that but never had a problem. I would also put grease around the hub.
From the thousands of holes I have drilled in numerous places, shops and things, even if you have perfect new drill and it cuts like butter a small pilot hole is good in keeping it from WANDERING. Usually what happens here is nobody ever lubes up the threads because everybody the world over knows that if you oil the threads, your lugs will fall right off. I once got lectured in front of my father by a mechanic in a garage because he found oil on the threads of my father's car. I was a criminal endangering the entire family because our lugs were going to fall right off and make us crash. I then went on to oil wheel stud threads for the next 50 years and never had any fall off ( unless i ripped the whole stud off but that is a different story ) and I also never had this problem on any of my own cars, just other people's cars.
As an old tire tech I've learned that impact devices, 11:13 actually makes things worse. Do it by hand. Take your time.The impacting actually causes more galling of the the metals and makes it worse. High speed friction causes welding.
Hi, it's Mrs Wrenching. Kenny is crazy busy. I hope all is well with you. Thank you so much for watching. I will let him know you said HI. Stay well - Meg
Lost 3 out of 4 lug nuts on my Honda Fit and a stud broken off. No clearance to get studs out. I had to pull the steering knuckle and have a shop press in a new bearing and hub. It was a tuff job. (Front wheels).
Doesn’t it annoy you when someone tries to tell you how to do your job. Your clearly an expert on auto mechanics and don’t need someone else’s unsolicited advice.
Yeah because there aren't other experts out there.... I am a 15yr master tech who gets crazy stuff all the time. I am a diag guy and was taught the right way by the book as well as, shade tree, and good ole boy. Most mechanics don't get all 3 it is one or the other. We dealt with a generation before us who tried not to share their tricks for fear of loosing their jobs because they didn't know electrical or computers well. Because of that we share information freely. Now as for all the "experts" there are very few in this field. Though Kenny definitely is one and because of that he might just call himself experienced or proficient because when you call yourself an expert Murphy likes to humble you.
It's Mrs Wrenching. Murphy has his way with Kenny daily! Thank you for all you do. The industry & all the techs you share your wisdom with are blessed. Keep wrenching, Meg 🔧
Sometimes, unsolicited advice can open a thought process that otherwise may not have been explored. Usually not, but sometimes. Sometimes, your trick may not work while the next guy's will. Good show Kenny!
I'm a retired tech. Was in the tire industry for quite some time. In my opinion power tools are great. Unfortunately, I found the impacting forces accelerate the galling of the threads. It is a bugger but, I found manually loosening is better. Back and forth and so on. Takes awhile but it works. Penetrating oil helps. I've saved many of wheels. Minimal damage. European cars are the worst. Once the wheel is off, all necessary repairs can be done.
Kenny I worked on Drum brakes many times. The easiest way to get a drum off is use a tool and retract the brake drums back before trying to remove the drum. The rust ring that forms around the edge of the brake surface is the problem most of the time. Thank You Kenny!😁
Nice job! I hit those drums much harder, they normally break loose. After market wheels or not, make sure you are not cross threading the lugs to start with and you won't get this problem. People, geech...
I use a blow torch on sticky drums, after a minute they usually slide right off. Either way there is a risk of warping. In fact when I change a set of brakes, I don't even waste my time on old drums and rotors any more. Just replace them all and be done with it.
Gotta say one thing. When lug nuts start to seize don't use impact devices. They make it worse. Do it by hand. Back and forth. Takes a while, but it's worth it. Driii the center of the nut and inject lots of lubricant. Done this many of times. High end vehicles are the worst.
Love watching the way you do things, never drilled one out . I live in the rust belt so torches are always around . We put a heat protection gel around the rim and cut the lugs off with the torches
@@WrenchingWithKenny you are my favorite mechanic on you tube to watch easily. Keep up your excellent work. You are teaching me a whole lot of valuable information so I at least can fix my own stuff
My old tire service station that do the tire rotation for my Isuzu Troopers that used OEM Magnesium Rim in high saultty area in Western MA will not put any effort when they can not take the tire off vecause of stripped tread. The owner of the service will keep walking out to the service area to see how much time the service man spend on effort to switch the tire and will terminate the service and charge you for hours that spend on this effort.
This is why i always hand start my lugs . I seen shops where the guy put lug in the impact and run it on im thinking really hope he doesn't cross thread any of tjem.
Had a similar problem a while back but it was actually caused by idiots using "Power Tools" in the first place. I had my wheels rotated and did a track and balance at one of the "One stop" tyre and brake chain shops locally. These idiots used a windy gun to fit the lug nuts back on to the studs, but the windy gun was obviously just set to maximum and they totally stripped the stud / lug nut. What was even worse was that the lug nuts on the remaining studs were on so tight that I could not even remove them using an 8 foot extension bar! Imagine getting a flat on the road and trying to replace your wheel for your spare? Impossible. I was so mad at their stupidity that I made a complaint to their head office and lo and behold, it seems to have actually got through to them and since then, at my local shop, they now use a torque wrench to tighten the lug nuts up. I was trying to picture some poor woman trying to change a flat tyre for her spare at the side of the road on a rainy night with the factory tools supplied with the car, what a nightmare. Idiots.
I'm thankful you took the time to say something. Their managers did the right thing. So many people would have let it go, but you saw the bigger picture. Thank you for watching 🔧
@@WrenchingWithKenny Your videos are always honest, straight forward and practical, not that many on RUclips as so many are just looking for revenue. Anything that informs and helps has to be worth promoting. Regarding my bad experiences previously, I would hate to think of my wife stuck alone with this sort of problem - I also made a horses ass on my Diff. Stupidly I used a Makita impact wrench to try to loosen the over tightened / seized drain plug on my Toyota Diff. my finger slipped and it switched the direction of the impact from unscrew to screw and I ripped the threads off the plug - luckily, the plug stripped before the actual diff. casting. So, I am not perfect, mistakes happen, but channels like yours really help people out, so thanks for your videos. Greatly appreciated.
Fluffy that's impressive. Your the man. I got confused and thought you were Fluffy Mexicanic ever heard of that guy? Sorry Kenny. I must have been tired. My fault.
Sometimes they do. I'll own it if we created the issue. If we didn't cause the problem & they continue with their nonsense, I make it right. However, they won't come back to me again because I won't work on their vehicles. Thanks for watching. Keep wrenching 🔧
Customers never understand how hard it is sometimes to remove a stuffed bolt especially when you get a car in the door you haven't worked on before and it's old yesterday I had to do a complete suspension rebuild on a ba falcon 120 ks 20 years old never touched and man did I have some fights with ceased bolts but the one that got me nearly throwing my hands up was ford put the bolt wrong way as to I couldn't remove it due to the fuel tank was interfering with removing it I not pulling fuel tank out and rear suspension cradle for one bolt so I die grinder head of bolt and put one in correct way saved 8 hours for customer now car points and steers like new some engineers baffle me sometimes as y they do dumb stuff like this when bolts should go opposite way grrrrt
You should have removed the nut and performed the rotatiom leaving off the lug nut until they mentioned their was a problem that they im sure knew about . Hope you charged them accordingly for that extra time and repair. 😂
It’s crazy that the idiots out there think that you don’t know what you’re doing. I’ve never seen you do anything dangerous or dumb. Tell em to shut up!!!
Wheel studs are made of high tensile steel which is very difficult to drill, saying you can drill it just as quick with a single large size drill (1/2) as you can by first using a pilot drill, sorry to say that is BULLSH#T.
Love it when the armchair experts who never do anything, explain what you are doing wrong.
@captainstank3791 😂 that happens. I don't take it to heart anymore. It really gets Mrs Wrenching's blood boiling though. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
kenny when you read peoples comments remember that most of the time people are not telling you about stuff because they think you don't know it, they are really just telling you because it is important to them that YOU know that THEY know it ....great videos btw you been teaching me stuff left and right!!
Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate you taking the time to let me know my videos are informative & help people out. Keep wrenching 🔧
With all the demonstrated knowledge you have already shown, it amazes me when someone suggests a "better way."
I always chuckle when new plumbers think they are "dropping knowledge" on me, and I explain to them why "their idea" would not work in the present situation. And letting them know I knew of their suggestion back in the 1900's, before they were ever a glint in their daddies eye.
I like saying, "I was doing this before you were even a dirty thought in your father's mind."
There are more than one way to do things. You might just learn something new!
@@gordbaker896 That is true, many of the "old" ways won't work today, but sometimes they do. As a young man I always listened to the old guys, because they have been there before and I don't want to make the same mistakes. Now days the young guys look at us like we're stupid, they have to make the mistake on their own to learn. Then it kills them to say you were right.
@@jthonn Thanks. I have made many mistakes and many good moves.
Kenny, terrific videos of how to get things done. The frozen lug nut video was very helpful.
Kenny, I learn something from you almost every day. Including today. I was away on vacation so now I'm back catching up on all the videos that I missed. Thank you for all you do for us home gamers and part time wrenchers like myself. Don't even give the haters or know it all types another thought. They don't even deserve to be mentioned. Everybody knows there are different ways to do different jobs. Most of the time your years of experience have allowed you to show us an innovative way to get things done. Something that only comes with years of experience. Thanks again!
Customer knew it was a problem...he just didn't know how to deal with it!
My thoughts exactly! Thanks for watching 🔧
I mechanic also but it is really fun watching Kinney work thru everyday work problems. Thanks
I like your attitude and approach.
I DID get something out of this.
I remember giving up once on a friend's car and resorting to the Sawzall. It was a hairy procedure for me at only fifteen, and with a tiny bit of skill and a whole lotta luck, I cut the nut off and did not visibly damage the threads on the stud, somehow.
But maybe if I'd continued spinning I could have skipped that dicey surgery...
I'd definitely try that next time instead.
Did you call that PB blaster peanut butter blaster?? 😂 That's the first time I've heard that one.
Stripped bolts never a joy! U handled your wheel stud perfectly. Had a similar problem on a 2006 PT Cruiser Turbo GT.
When trying to remove lug nuts an impact wouldn't move them. Used a socket, flex T handle and a four foot snipe. Only worked on one lug nut per wheel. All the other factory MoPar lug nuts sheared off at the top of the lug nut cone.
The factory wheels were fitted with a plastic cover as part of the wheel. This cover had a plastic chrome paint finish. Thus, I was hesitant of using acetone based penetrants or heat to free up the electrolysis bond between the ferris metal lug nuts and the alloy lug nuts.
The solution was to drill out sixteen wheel studs, replace all wheel studs and replace the defective Mopar lug nuts with after market all steel lug nuts.
The factory lug nuts were of an alloy with a stainless steel cover cap. The problem was not rust but electrolysis from the dissimilar metals of the stud and nut.
Once sorted a complete tire replacement strut replacement, full brake replacement and control arm bushings replacement. ( R/R of the control arms was another nightmare)
The customer was very understanding and paid for all extra hours. He has an attachment to the vehicle that is refreshing.
Excellent video. Definitely a good information piece. Gives hope to us shady trees who dread stuck and broken fasteners.
On heavy truck application's they notch the studs so not to spin and they are much larger and carry tons more weight
Used to carry a bunch of pilot holes in my pocket...they kept falling out
When I lived in the rust belt, I would grease my studs. I know you're not supposed to do that but never had a problem. I would also put grease around the hub.
From the thousands of holes I have drilled in numerous places, shops and things, even if you have perfect new drill and it cuts like butter a small pilot hole is good in keeping it from WANDERING.
Usually what happens here is nobody ever lubes up the threads because everybody the world over knows that if you oil the threads, your lugs will fall right off.
I once got lectured in front of my father by a mechanic in a garage because he found oil on the threads of my father's car. I was a criminal endangering the entire family because our lugs were going to fall right off and make us crash.
I then went on to oil wheel stud threads for the next 50 years and never had any fall off ( unless i ripped the whole stud off but that is a different story ) and I also never had this problem on any of my own cars, just other people's cars.
Good morning from Hamilton Montana
Good morning from North Carolina! Thanks for watching 🔧
As an old tire tech I've learned that impact devices, 11:13 actually makes things worse. Do it by hand. Take your time.The impacting actually causes more galling of the the metals and makes it worse. High speed friction causes welding.
Mr and Mrs Wrenching, have a great day. Thanks for the video
Great job Kenny! How are you brother?
Hi, it's Mrs Wrenching. Kenny is crazy busy. I hope all is well with you. Thank you so much for watching. I will let him know you said HI. Stay well - Meg
Get the oxygen acetylene torch . It can't be tight if it's liquid.
Lost 3 out of 4 lug nuts on my Honda Fit and a stud broken off. No clearance to get studs out. I had to pull the steering knuckle and have a shop press in a new bearing and hub. It was a tuff job. (Front wheels).
Doesn’t it annoy you when someone tries to tell you how to do your job. Your clearly an expert on auto mechanics and don’t need someone else’s unsolicited advice.
Yeah because there aren't other experts out there.... I am a 15yr master tech who gets crazy stuff all the time. I am a diag guy and was taught the right way by the book as well as, shade tree, and good ole boy. Most mechanics don't get all 3 it is one or the other. We dealt with a generation before us who tried not to share their tricks for fear of loosing their jobs because they didn't know electrical or computers well. Because of that we share information freely. Now as for all the "experts" there are very few in this field. Though Kenny definitely is one and because of that he might just call himself experienced or proficient because when you call yourself an expert Murphy likes to humble you.
Thanks for watching 🔧 & yes 😎
It's Mrs Wrenching. Murphy has his way with Kenny daily! Thank you for all you do. The industry & all the techs you share your wisdom with are blessed. Keep wrenching, Meg 🔧
Sometimes, unsolicited advice can open a thought process that otherwise may not have been explored. Usually not, but sometimes. Sometimes, your trick may not work while the next guy's will. Good show Kenny!
Yup, nobody listens anymore. Might learn something new. Try it.
Nice job!
Hope you’re staying cool.
Hahaha it's in the 90s here in southern North Carolina. I hope you're having a great day. Thanks for watching 🔧
@@WrenchingWithKenny I’m up in Connecticut and it’s been rainy, hot and humid here too!!
I'm a retired tech. Was in the tire industry for quite some time. In my opinion power tools are great. Unfortunately, I found the impacting forces accelerate the galling of the threads. It is a bugger but, I found manually loosening is better. Back and forth and so on. Takes awhile but it works. Penetrating oil helps. I've saved many of wheels. Minimal damage. European cars are the worst. Once the wheel is off, all necessary repairs can be done.
Kenny I worked on Drum brakes many times. The easiest way to get a drum off is use a tool and retract the brake drums back before trying to remove the drum. The rust ring that forms around the edge of the brake surface is the problem most of the time. Thank You Kenny!😁
Use an impact gun on the drum first.
Up here in New York the rusty will get you every time
Nice job! I hit those drums much harder, they normally break loose. After market wheels or not, make sure you are not cross threading the lugs to start with and you won't get this problem. People, geech...
I use a blow torch on sticky drums, after a minute they usually slide right off. Either way there is a risk of warping. In fact when I change a set of brakes, I don't even waste my time on old drums and rotors any more. Just replace them all and be done with it.
@@lo1234-w9r I do too, for what it cost for new ones, it's hardly worth turning them anymore.
Great video Kenny.
Thank you as always for the information.
Great Job Professor!
Gotta say one thing. When lug nuts start to seize don't use impact devices. They make it worse. Do it by hand. Back and forth. Takes a while, but it's worth it. Driii the center of the nut and inject lots of lubricant. Done this many of times. High end vehicles are the worst.
Many thanks again Kenny. Very informative
Love watching the way you do things, never drilled one out . I live in the rust belt so torches are always around . We put a heat protection gel around the rim and cut the lugs off with the torches
yikes
Good morning from Higgins lake Michigan
Good morning from North Carolina! Thanks for watching 🔧
@@WrenchingWithKenny you are my favorite mechanic on you tube to watch easily. Keep up your excellent work. You are teaching me a whole lot of valuable information so I at least can fix my own stuff
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Good morning Mr Kenny hope y'all have a wonderful day 😁
Good morning! You too, thanks for watching 🔧
no wonder they wanted a "tire rotation"
Right?! Thanks for watching 🔧
How are you running into this problem so often?
My old tire service station that do the tire rotation for my Isuzu Troopers that used OEM Magnesium Rim in high saultty area in Western MA will not put any effort when they can not take the tire off vecause of stripped tread. The owner of the service will keep walking out to the service area to see how much time the service man spend on effort to switch the tire and will terminate the service and charge you for hours that spend on this effort.
It's Mrs Wrenching. I would find another shop to get my work done. That's crazy! Thanks for watching-Meg 🔧
' Mrs. ' Wrench
Interesting
Some people dont have any ideal whats safe and whats not thats why the over kill on some people part like over tighting lug nuts for one
Very true! Thanks for watching 🔧
Nothing like being in the middle of nowhere, you have a spare tire, a jack that works, wrenches that fit the lugs, but then you have THIS.
@@michaelszczys8316 I guess keep a hammer and a cole chisel with your spare, lol. That rust belt must be something.
This is why i always hand start my lugs . I seen shops where the guy put lug in the impact and run it on im thinking really hope he doesn't cross thread any of tjem.
Kenny its a precision free wheel nut lol, I take it a ridge of metal built up, commercials are still playing so vid hasn't started yet
Had a similar problem a while back but it was actually caused by idiots using "Power Tools" in the first place. I had my wheels rotated and did a track and balance at one of the "One stop" tyre and brake chain shops locally. These idiots used a windy gun to fit the lug nuts back on to the studs, but the windy gun was obviously just set to maximum and they totally stripped the stud / lug nut.
What was even worse was that the lug nuts on the remaining studs were on so tight that I could not even remove them using an 8 foot extension bar! Imagine getting a flat on the road and trying to replace your wheel for your spare? Impossible.
I was so mad at their stupidity that I made a complaint to their head office and lo and behold, it seems to have actually got through to them and since then, at my local shop, they now use a torque wrench to tighten the lug nuts up.
I was trying to picture some poor woman trying to change a flat tyre for her spare at the side of the road on a rainy night with the factory tools supplied with the car, what a nightmare. Idiots.
I'm thankful you took the time to say something. Their managers did the right thing. So many people would have let it go, but you saw the bigger picture. Thank you for watching 🔧
@@WrenchingWithKenny Your videos are always honest, straight forward and practical, not that many on RUclips as so many are just looking for revenue. Anything that informs and helps has to be worth promoting. Regarding my bad experiences previously, I would hate to think of my wife stuck alone with this sort of problem - I also made a horses ass on my Diff. Stupidly I used a Makita impact wrench to try to loosen the over tightened / seized drain plug on my Toyota Diff. my finger slipped and it switched the direction of the impact from unscrew to screw and I ripped the threads off the plug - luckily, the plug stripped before the actual diff. casting. So, I am not perfect, mistakes happen, but channels like yours really help people out, so thanks for your videos. Greatly appreciated.
That was a real mess. Think your right. Would never have come out without a power lug wrench. Maybe got hot enough and finally melted the threads
Kenny I hope your customer has a torque wrench instead of standing on a 10 ' cheater lol.
Fluffy that's impressive. Your the man. I got confused and thought you were Fluffy Mexicanic ever heard of that guy? Sorry Kenny. I must have been tired. My fault.
Fluffy 😂
Good job Kenny....😏😀🇬🇧🇬🇧 I like to grease lug nut threads....😏😏
The torque specs on mine are for clean dry threads.
Thanks for watching. Keep wrenching 🔧
@@dennisharvey4499 That's fine and dandy until they rust in place...and your then watching a video like this one ...😳😳😏😏😏🇬🇧
Would just torch the nut enough to slag it off, if it's stripped it's pretty sure bet the stud is worthless. But always nice to have an alternative.
Peanut butter blaster! 😂😂
😂😂😂 thanks for watching 🔧
I think you are doing a great job.coment from sweden
You tell'em Kenny, people forget there's more than one way to skin a cat.
Gotta love the keyboard warriors that know everything and have zero experience with anything...
Yup! So true 👍 thanks for watching 🔧
Nut cracker/ splitter?
It wouldn't fit in the opening.
Great, an 11 minute video on a one minute explanation
Customer would have blame my shop for stripping out the lug nut with a impact.
Sometimes they do. I'll own it if we created the issue. If we didn't cause the problem & they continue with their nonsense, I make it right. However, they won't come back to me again because I won't work on their vehicles. Thanks for watching. Keep wrenching 🔧
Customers never understand how hard it is sometimes to remove a stuffed bolt especially when you get a car in the door you haven't worked on before and it's old yesterday I had to do a complete suspension rebuild on a ba falcon 120 ks 20 years old never touched and man did I have some fights with ceased bolts but the one that got me nearly throwing my hands up was ford put the bolt wrong way as to I couldn't remove it due to the fuel tank was interfering with removing it I not pulling fuel tank out and rear suspension cradle for one bolt so I die grinder head of bolt and put one in correct way saved 8 hours for customer now car points and steers like new some engineers baffle me sometimes as y they do dumb stuff like this when bolts should go opposite way grrrrt
WOW! The labor for ten years????????
😂😂😂😂😂😂
2000 average work hours per year times $150 per hour times 10 years equals $3 million, and according to Kenny it still wouldn’t be off😢😂
Never had this problem with cars that use lug bolts
I have had so many Audi & Mercedes hubs that I have had to change out because they are stripped. Thanks for watching. Keep wrenching 🔧
Peanut Butter Blaster is the comment of the year.
You should have removed the nut and performed the rotatiom leaving off the lug nut until they mentioned their was a problem that they im sure knew about . Hope you charged them accordingly for that extra time and repair. 😂
With your expertise you make judgement based on that.
Above all do what works best for you
All of those studs should be changed and those brakes don't have much left either.
It’s crazy that the idiots out there think that you don’t know what you’re doing. I’ve never seen you do anything dangerous or dumb. Tell em to shut up!!!
I am so sick of hacks ramming lugs on with power tools. Also doesn't anyone use Antiseize anymore...
You were setup. Those 3 marks tell me someone was already in there knew it was spinning and didnt want to tell you or didnt tell the customer.
I think the customer knew & didn't say anything. Thanks for watching 🔧
Potty Time, Hangon A Second!
😂
Wheel studs are made of high tensile steel which is very difficult to drill, saying you can drill it just as quick with a single large size drill (1/2) as you can by first using a pilot drill, sorry to say that is BULLSH#T.
Don't waste your time responding to the keyboard wannabe technicians, not worth the time.
You mean the nuts in-between the legs are problematic?