The problem is that the standard set by incarnon weapons is so far ahead of everything else that even the best non-incarnon weapons are seen as unviable or mid at best. A perfect example is acceltra prime. Had it released before incarnons were a thing, it would have almost certainly been a top meta weapon alongside the likes of kuva bramma, kuva zarr, and tenet arca plasmor. However, torid incarnon, strun incarnon, and latron incarnon are so much better than every other aoe weapon that those previously meta weapons are now seen as bad or only decent. The ammo nerfs to most aoe weapons certainly didn't help given the above-mentioned incarnons effectively have infinite ammo as long as you can get headshots (not even that for torid in particular). Even Trumna is starting to fall behind.
Underrated comment. Those AOE weaps still have the damage, but the ammo issues make them nonviable. I'd wish they would revert or +50% the ammo drop change so we can have more usable weapons.
I mean I would still use the Bramma and Zarr if they would revert the ammo nerf now that we have incarnons. I still dont understand why they dont change the nerf when currently the strun incarnon is one of the best explosion weapons in the game as a shotgun
+1 must say i freakin love using acceltra BEFORE ammo nerf, AFTER i dont even push 1 forma for prime, just nah with that ammo pool. Bramma and zarr same problem, ofc energized munitions works good but... but using it requires build when incarnon dont need to. They cut up these weapons in a very strange way 😢
Actually not a perfect example, because Acceltra and the original Gauss release . . . GAUSS was amazing, but the acceltra was a copium shit tier crit none status weapon with the worst ammo economy in the game necessitating PRIMED ammo mutator and carrier. Guess what, acceltra is still a shit tier weapon, but everyone and them mum has used it and it still uses the VIRAL HM build that was common during its launch with only a marginal difference because Helmith is a thing now. It WAS a meta weapon, one of the most used in fact but unlike incarnons it was just "fun" and not so much "effective" by comparison to other weapons back then. A better example was when there was only ZARR AND only a fool would pick the acceltra over it because the comparison of damage, crits, status was night and day . . . but guess how many people used the ZARR ? None, because a lot of people don't like single shell/slug reload. I never deleted my 4 forma Zarr from those days. Therein lies the crux of this bad take and bad bias. Incarnons are a thing and technically they do some of the best types of damage for their given niche which for some of them "torid kills anything and everything, including rooms while the Vasto murders demolysts" really don't have much competition. Now, if you don't like those weapons there are a dime a dozen similar weapons that can almost do the same thing "kill stuff" but they might require a different setup which will be better for the individual player as opposed to just generally being a brain dead good option. < Insert MAG meta weapons here > Do incarnons do the thing extremely well and scale? Yes. Are they generally better than what else could be compared to them? Yes. Does everyone like charge mechanics or that you have a lengthy grind to get the adaptor, evolve it, and hope you like it? No. I've used most of the incarnons and some of them such as the LATO "even with mag, yareli, or a niche build that should make it shine " I just cant bring myself to use it. Meanwhile I have alliance mates who on a whim picked up a 50+ % ferrox from Glast and for whatever reason LOVE it because sometimes weapons just have feels and thats fine too . . . I got a high roll 57% impact and immediately swapped it to a heat after liking it initially many months later. Most people wont do endurance in this account lifetime past the point it matters. Some players end up in the 1000s range with a lucky duviri team, but that experience is fleeting and limited. Even the most lame monkey with a horrible build on all but 1 weapon or warframe can do EDA. The prior week I had loyal yareli with a slam ruvox and did 45% team dps for the entire session and it wasn't even maxed out. There's NO content to justify the power of incarnons. Incarnons are just "win more, fun more." Outside of the meta there sits dozens of weapons with unique perks or characteristics that make it worth building and using even if incarnons might do a thing better. I love my praedos, but I'll use a Jat Kusar, Caustacyst, or Falcor over it at the drop of a hat. The real problem is bias. People say revenant is amazing and insert meta warframe is godlike. Guess how many people drop a WTF in chat after they see an ember prime nuke a 215 SP heavy gunner with fewer than 4 spells. Ember can kill a SP Heavy in less than 2 seconds with it dying to the dot and do it faster than launch day Dante. Guess how many of my alliance dropped plat for an Ember Prime set or parts and invested into her? 5 or 6 of my alliance did it along side when I hyped up yareli months before she become FOMO. Thats the REAL problem with WF is that people have bias until you show them the potential. Why use Tenet Plinx over a Laetum or similar incarnon? Sometimes you're in the mood to YEET and murder entire packs of dudes and incarnons can't provide that. LAzyFrame dropped a dumb video to drum up the comment section just like his Popcorn Tier List and I've seen him verbally berate/insult his viewers, so I guess thats the community he wants. A replicated Rio/Gaz shit show with no actual educational value or positive vibes except if its busted AF and will get patched "influence dual ichor as an example of that."
The issue at the moment, its not that the guns are bad, its just alot of players wont let go of the meta. Which in this situation are incarnon weapons. Im enjoying these weapons and they definitly do melt in lvl cap. I grew tired of incarnon weapons, meta loadouts tend to ruin any experience that new weapons can provide.
you know you can "level cap" with a stug, so that as a factor doesn't make them worth while at all. there are a bunch of Kuva / Tenet weapons that are way better and do way more and are unique in what they do. the game has evolved drastically and weapons should as well.
I'm actually not a fan of incarnons because of the ramp up which, while fast, 2 seconds in a 94 second mission is massive downtime. Even in harder missions it's a liability when there are weapons that function fine without the ramp
@@KnightmareFrame i dont disagree with you at all. Weapons should be evolving with the game. Just taking a look at ths comment section i couldnt help but make that statement due to majority saying "not worth removing incarnon"
@@actellimQT the 2 seconds is the reload, it would be the same as reloading your weapon lol. That's the stupidest thing I've read. Don't reload your weapons, there goes your 2 seconds. 😅🤣.
Cold is already good. You have a lot of mods for condition overload and arcanes to boost damage while applying cold, that doesn't only works well against enemies defense, also CC the enemy and boost your crit damage. People just have to stop making builds that rely purely on viral, corrosive, radiation. You have to put something else. As you can do corrosive+heat or electric on your secondary and use the new arcanes, or corrosive+cold, radiation+cold on your primary. The last one is great against bosses and disruption and murmur faction. People are just still stuck in creating the basics.
Absolute L take. You used to be great for Warframe. What happened? You're just a meta slave now that always needs to deal the highest ammount of damage. Your Video on Koumei saying she is horrible is also absolutely bullshit. You just can't really build anything that isn't pure DPS or? Even your Jade build, a SUPPORT frame, was just how much DPS can she do. Been a fan of you for years, but I think it's time to unsub. Have a good one. And for people actually wanting a good Glaxion build that deals damage, primes and CCs the enemies. These are left to right, top to bottom. Malignant Force Stormbringer Photon Overcharge Shivering Contagion Galvanized Chamber Galvanized Aptitude Primed Shred (or regular Shred if you don't have the Primed one) Critical Delay Sinister Reach for the Exilus slot Primary Frostbite Arcane. Primed Shred, Sinister Reach and Shivering Contagion work together to freeze a whole room solid if they actually survive long enough to be frozen and you kind of spam it around. It's a 5m length and 10m depth cone infront of you that get's frozen from my testing so just essentially play Splatoon with it. Photon Overcharge will not only increase your crit Damage but also supply you with energy with more energy orb drops. I have a 60% Magnetic Tenet Glaxion. (magnetic for stripping overguard and corpus shields almost instantly) With the above mods you should deal Corrosive => Cold => Magnetic in that order and priority. (With 2 normal green shards on your frame to increase corrosion stacks this will also armor strip almost instantly so it's 1 build for all factions.) Ideally I use this with a Nautilus with Tenacious Bond and Reinforced Bond And it pairs up Super Well with the Okina Prime Incarnon with a Melee Influence build since if the Glaxion ever doesn't deal enough damage it's still an amazing primer to push the Okina even further. Funny enough a really good frame to use the Glaxion with is Koumei, the frame he thinks is shit. Koumei is basically all 5 Archon mods + Augur Reach, Augur Message and Adaptation. With Arcane Blessing and Energize. I have Rejuvenation as Aura and Power Drift as Exilus. With all of these things combined I did a Netra Cell solo and even with all 4 Debuffs it was a walk in the Park. If you string Enemies up with Koumeis 4th the Glaxion just slaps that much harder for some reason. And that is without rolling Jackpots.
While I agree with the sentiment you're going for on him being very tunnel visioned in the content that NUKES DPS GODMODE for easy views, there is absolutely nothing impressive about running netracells solo, nothing.
Hating on Tenet Glaxion, because it's weaker than Torid is absurd. Yeah no shit - Torid Incarnon is THE STRONGEST fucking weapon in the entire game. The fact Tenet Glaxion can compete with power of Torid just shows you how absurdly strong it is (remember Incarnons have 4 stat upgrades, Tenet/Kuva weapons have only 1). What a brainless take, how can someone take this seriously is beyond my understanding.
Get a unranked glaxion riven with toxin and cold on it, keep it r0 and put max heat then it kills like crazy and no need to charge up an incarnon mode. Normal sobek is stronger with riven, it needs it and faction mods which people dislike but acid shells double dips in faction mods so it's just better for a warframe with ability to spread. You only go crit on sobek with zephyr or the crit does nothing.
@@Artax2040 torrid has riven dispo 4. Also tennet glaxion is super strong if you get an non upgraded r0 riven with cold and toxin to get a small viral and bug heat proc with 3 heat mods on.
@@knowvoid9958 on tenet weapon, you can do corro + magnetic + radiation + heat + add nourish for viral.... Add galvined attitude... Use verglas as primer.... And Shot !
You have to be my favorite content creator and Warframe has a lot of great content creators. I just discovered your channel a few short months ago and personally I don't think anybody explains things better while giving him depth explanations. There are so many small nuances in this game and I have to say I'm very impressed how you take all these nuances and put them together in your builds and in your in-depth explanations. But what I truly enjoy is the laid-back approach and at the same time diving right into the nitty gritty and smiling the entire time. Fairly recently I was diagnosed with a condition known as CIRS which was formerly known as sick building syndrome. In my case I lack the enzymes necessary to break down mold in my body and it bypasses the blood brain barrier causing all the symptoms I've had my entire life. But I can't get treated because I can't afford it and I can't afford to leave this mold infested house And it causes all kinds of difficulties processing information. It's frustrating because I'm an ENTP and I love The challenges of uncovering new ways of doing things But because of my condition sometimes getting dressed is a challenge especially doing it alone. And this isn't meant to minimize any of the other content creators. And IMHO this game would not have achieved its success without the content creators that it has and has had. Thank You!
Cold is already worth investing. People just don't know it yet. Specially after the release of frostbite. People are sleeping. The only thing that the rework will do is make it a lot easier to kill people. But cold is good for many different reasons. And is a must go in many hard content such as disruption where you need to slow down enemies and if you have a frame with CC skills they will be stunned for a while. Let's not even talk about how it works well against armor, shields and even gives you a boost on crit damage. 😅
They're here for fan service. People wanted sobek wraith forever and now we get the nice kuva version. I am a glaxion enjoyer as well and I will happily take another upgrade on me lazer gun
Have you seen the Saryn build, all 5 emerald shards on toxin status deals more % damage, acid shells + roar, strength build? I heard that its really good, unfort acid shells is bugged =(, maybe you can do a build with her or do you think this is a flop build? edit: 5 emerald shards on toxin dmg or 3 on toxin dmg and 2 on corrosion stacks, not sure which is better
For the Glaxion I would not recommend a hunter munitions setup, the performance is really weak and TTK is kinda mid. Try going magnetic (progenitor) with corrosive and cold, add some punch through and Primary Frostbite and top that bad boy off with the usual bane, gun CO, mulitshot and crit also viral from an external source, primer, nourish or companion whatever flavor you choose (In other words very close to your last loadout with some tweaks). Now your weapon links to more units compliments of punch through and it TTK is much better and makes the weapon more fun to play with. Still need to run some warframe synergy tests with this one though so perhaps HM perform better with the right frame but so far it is not my go to for this weapon. That goes the same for level cap runs, still need to test performance there for scalability. As for the Sobek, I have not gotten my hands on one yet but I would assume an acid shell warframe combo would still do bits and if acid shell is bugged well that is fine they will fix that in due time and once we get that new augment from nightwave we can really play around with this one. Big old time fan of this gun so I am keen to see if any of these breathe new life into the weapon for me with some fun new / old setups for synergy. I will say though keep an eye on these weapons when we finally get our hands on their augments and when the future changes talked about in the dev streams come in for elements and shields.
I remember Kyai showcasing Acid shells and the similar mods not scaling properly on Steel Path enemies as well. Was that ever fixed? For some reason the percentage didn’t take the steel path health modifiers into account
@@Tan42069 except the testing was on unarmored enemies. It doesn’t take steel path’s health modifiers into account, has nothing to do with armor. If you take the same level enemy side by side with armor stripped, you will see it’s not doing the same percentage of damage on steel path.
The Kuva Sobek is a little disappointing. They should add a quirk or something and give it some innate punch-through. The Tenet Glaxion is a neat upgrade. Both are good weapons.
i didn't try glaxion, but sobek is just... mid..., it's good if you play saryn and kill a heavy gunner, which is pretty niche, so it's just annoying to use
Because youtube mans don't want weapons weaker than incarnon that cannot do level cap, because that's is the only content they play and is somewhat hard for someone who has everything in the game
he is probly just mad cus the glaxion isnt difficult to make good, its a strong primer, and cold is a meta again so idk how anyone can say its not good, ive seen other vids of it doing good work on level 225's, which is good enough to praise. not everyone gives a shit about level cap and long survivals, its not as difficult as it used to be. this dude seems to be stuck on super technical builds that need a lot of this for that and do this to make this work and THEN RED CRITS type shit. if he cant make a stupid technical full kit dependent build, his videos will be just like everyone elses. SOME of his builds are good tho so i keep an eye out but mostly i dont like this dude and he used to talk real rude to people like theyre dumb if they dont do shit his way.
I'm using the original sobek with my saryn Prime Build right now, and I could nuke the entire room, honestly. The only issue I'm having right now is the materials for voidgel orbs, which I have to farm either cascade or void flood; just to feed my helminth.
exactly what were they thinking, if were not getting a cool alt fire why even farm for it and sp cascade is imo the best mission in the game solo 1-3 rounds for a great amount of resources and dopamine
I agree with the sobak opinion. Its just a sobak with better stats but worst rivens. Glaxion tho? You went with the wrong progenitor. Radiation/magnetic are the call with this weapon. A slash build works great on this weapon but ill personally go with corrosive + cold + radiation/magnetic. The benefit this weapon have over something like torid or boar is that you don't have to build an incarnon charge. And primary frostbite also works wonders with this wespon. At tge very least we only got 1 disappointment
What a joke. You don't need to build the incar on on boar. The weapon is way better without the beam of the charged incarnon. On board you wanna enjoy the multishot of the weapon, not the beam with increase fire rate. You talking about builds and talking about others that you can't even build properly yourself, apparently. And he did a corrosive+cold build at the end. I'd also go for radiation cold with frostbite, I'd just change 2-3 mods he puts on his build what isn't bad either. Most of builds streamer does are general builds, when you will probably make a different build more specific build to play certain content. You can't say the built is wrong, because it doesn't match your specific build, built for slash, that doesn't work for all contents. And why magnetic? It's one of the worst elements for this weapon. The only reason you are picking magnetic is for that plus condition overload that won't add much and even against corpus cold alone works a lot better against the shields. If you said electric. I'd even consider because it would work well with building either corrosive and radiation with cold plus would work well with purple shards if you wanted to make a build based on that. But magnetic has no good option unless you are old, didn't evolve with the game and you're still thinking about having an extra stats for condition overload.
@@joshuaSand3rsbro what ? Electric ? How does electric proj make any sense at all. I agree with his comment, he’s not the only one in the comment section with this opinion. Primary frostbite is great for endurance. No kills required to activate the perk on top of superior increase in CD and MS over base dmg. You also talk about gun CO as if it is overrated but that one additional element adds an additional 80% damage that you lose from swapping to primary frostbite. Not to mention crit buffs from cold procs. we know cold procs are getting a buff as well. And magnetic is going to be more useful in the future. His build of just viral or corrosive cold is so obviously suboptimal and that is before the status changes that are coming in the future. Glaxion with Mag/Rad/Corro/Cold is definitely the optimal root and isn’t for a specific play-style. No outside buffs are needed to make it viable and works on its own. If you don’t understand why it’s better just admit it
@@johankaruyan5536 corrosive rad cold with magnetic progenitor, I also don't understand why he decided to put a magazine mod on a weapon that already has a pretty big magazine, and I would replace vile acceleration with shred aswell
Radiated reload increases reload speed, gives an extra status for galvanized aptitude, gives a bit of cc and helps with alloy armor and some factions like murmur. Cold is the innate element of the weapon, will synergize with its augment, and you can use primary frostbite to get tons of multishot and crit dmg without needing to stack up like merciless. It is going to get buffed on next major update, so we'll see
At current we haven't received the best advantage of cold. The selling point to cold is mostly taken advantage of by Frost (I plan to abuse it for sure). Sobek so far has a faction mod that adds a AoE effect, its high pellet status chance is nice to use, and it does well when modded. I found that taking cold for the shotgun progenitor (I had gotten a lucky 56% cold) allows this weapon to take advantage of the Nightwave status sobek mod and the sobek mod from steel meridian well. When they finish working cold in, they say that all cold applications can stack to 10, freezing the target and guaranteeing all hits on said target are near instant crit if not instant crit. Now add in Primary Frostbites main effect and you can push this little wonder tool to be a hybrid crit and status weapon. As I mathed (and its not the greatest), if you run the new multi mod and cold builders (sobek doesnt have to use cold itself, so long as you have a good back-up to build it or even a pet weapon to prime, I plan to run 2 versions, one for armor and health and one for shield strip which is enhanced cause its blunt follow up, glax is cool, but I think its best if we get the mod for it in nightwave and see how Frost handles it) Frost has a special augment that allows people to steamroll frozen targets, adding a insane critical and effect on target meaning the frozen buff should benefit all frames, but frost's augment for dealing extra freeze damage or cold will really be nuts. The build I went with at current for Kuva Sobek (56% cold for reference) is to run Galvanized Hell, Galvanized savvy, Toxic Barrage, (I threw in charged shell at 7 to keep myself to get the 60% electrical mod), shattering justice, frigged blast, clip delegation, and then cause I'm throwing so many pellets out I put a faction mod in (to take advantage of the odd status effects it applies). This build will work well against a lot of targets, toss in if you use this on Frost you can do a lot of interesting stat funnies such as that 200% dmg to frozen enemies and increase critical chance (which will be downright busted once the cold changes are fully implemented), and if you can add in say terrify (For armor strip) then you can straight out use just boosters for status and focus on damage/crit outright. This build can be done by other shotguns just changed up a bit, Corinth is great with cold for example, puncture creates a higher chance to crit the target per stack, and cold increases critical damage, if done right you should be hitting red crits on most targets within 1 or 2 shots. I'd take a good companion that can rapidly apply cold, keep the Primary Frostbite, and change Corinth too a crit only weapon with heavy multi-shot and crit stacking. You can use anything as a back-up to prime the room, such as Kuva Nukor or Epitaph. I'd definetly take advantage of as much multi-shot and get the status to around 30%. I tried to do something similar to Felarx, if you use Frost's Augment to get that extra damage to frozen the crits are stupid and the non crits hit like a truck anyways, the enemy doesn't win, its great because of incarnon adds radiation as well making the fellarx a great thunder delete against the Murmur enemies while also runing all the advantages of both sides when crits hit even if its low chance (throw enough stuff at the wall and you can still crit at times)
I feel like @KnightmareFrame Wants More power creep in this game based on videos like these. Like just because it doesn’t compete with Torid the TOP meta weapons doesn’t mean it’s bad. Like another way to get energy is always nice, more build flexibility with no room for nourish or energize. And an aoe weapon that doesn’t have ammo problems is always a welcome addition (Obviously they are gonna fix the LoS bug. Why can’t you just explain how much better it is going to be than the normal sobek once it’s fixed.) Not to mention his complete disregard of augments cause we don’t know yet. Somewhat glad he’s receiving backlash on this video. Hating on these weapons so much and so disappointed why?
So you don't know what you are doing. Weird that you'd put out a video to publicly state as such, but more power to ya I guess? Might want to do actual proper testing and alter your builds.
We are not thinking on the big sleeper here: frost. With the new changes, will he add the critic of his augment to enemies frozen with the glaxion? We need to wait to see this, i went for a full cold damage glaxion to test this when the changes comes. its too early to judge the glaxion just now
I was also recently tweaking about the Ui changes relating to the magazine, specifically reload time. I liked knowing that information while viewing. Nowadays, it's hard to find
His content mostly revolves around endgame meta builds and weapons. If you compare these new weapons with the meta ones it really is indeed underwhelming.
Man...the issue is that these weapons (Kuva,Tenet and Future infested) is that they need a rework/buff. If you compare them to incarnated weapons then yes they are weak. My issue is that the time feels about the same no matter what you shoot for just for the incarnated weapons. DE needs to give these weapons something new and tell the Torid to go screw itself. Its too overused and everyone knows it.
Didn't know acid shell was bugged I thought they had just added an internal cooldown to it. I got my kuva sobek yesterday and was playing around with it and noticed the inconsistency. I was also using the normal sobek on telesto to grind for my kuva sobek and thought it was quite odd it was inconsistently proccing acid shells, but it would proc frequently enough to make me feel as though it had a cooldown. I wouldn't have been surprised to see that happen to acid shells since the kuva sobek was going to be released and as far as I'm aware not that many people know how fun acid shells could be but would look into builds and then there would be an upsurge of players using the sobek/ looking for builds on the sobek and learning of the acid shells mod and how it makes a shotgun a room deleter. Anyway good to know it wasn't actually an internal cooldown but just a bug that cropped up. Hopefully they don't decide to town it down and then look at the Jat kittag and adjust that weapons mod.
The wiki isn't everything, however, the revision history on Acid Shells shows they added the Note about it having a Line of Sight check in 2021. Additionally, CoolKid369 has a kinda deep dive Sobek video from June 2022, which mentions and shows off the LOS check too. Seems that a lot of the love some people had for Acid Shells was a bug
Normally I don't like to compare creators like this, but it's weird coming to your video after just watching Leyzar's video on the Tenet Glaxion. He compares it roughly on par with Incarnon weapons. I suspect its because he went Radiation on the Glaxion instead of Toxin.
I noticed knightmare frame put a lot more quality of life sort of mods on his rather than adding more elemental dmg. I think that's the difference. More elemental dmg mods to create both more base dmg and more statuses for aptitude.
Lol at least use anz as example, but leyzar? He is like 99% of content creator of wf community, always display weapon power using wf that are used for weapon plataform builds, he makes dot builds and dont use factions mods, use rivens to make a weapon work(more rng, and one of worst ones in this game). To make this new guns works: 1. Fixed sobek aug (acid shells) bug. 2. Wait for element change rework and maybe glaxion will performe better. You know why he is disapointed? The same reason people are complaining in the comments we are tired of using incarnons, tenet and kuva weapons should perform as good as incarnons considering the time invesment we put to get them and resorces spent (aka. Plat). Thats why I dont even bother watching other creator since they only do is simp for DE. We deserve better.
Leyzars content is more focused on casuals and day to day gameplay Knightmares content are focused more on endgame meta builds So yes their opinions may vary
I'm worried that adversary weapons are slowly falling in to the same fate as prime weapons. DE hasn't been putting much thought or care in to new prime weapons outside of appearance for a while now, and it appears that they are starting to do the same with new adversary weapons.
They are realy good with specific warframes and builds. Kuva sobek ( toxin) -> Saryn. Tenet glaxion (radiation) -> Qorvex. (I don't realy like the shown builds.)
Exactly, either the kuva sobek or sobek itself, you need acid shells mod for the sobek, run around with the sobek mod that just came out recently, use saryn with acid dose.
DE's idea of balance is atrocious lmao i honestly think they regret all the powerful weapons they introduced into the game, but its too late to back down
i already use the sobek forcing it's crit, also frees a mod slot so i can add either the augment or punch through so it's great! assuming the riven disposition doesn't let me down
still waiting for DE to add more syndicate weapons, syndicate weapon mods, maybe syndicate special warframes, Would love a Tenet Opticor, maybe a Kuva Buzzlok.
Have to respectfully disagree on the Sobek experience it’s still better than its counterpart, there are some impressive builds out there already, of course it’s the a few forma and inquisitive imagination, if it’s not “meta” it means your builds need work. That’s the beauty of this game most if not all things can be broken or made to behave completely differently. I am running a Cold,Gas,Radiation,Magnetic ,Acid shells Shivering contagion,shattering justice Its does the job and then some
He does mention in the beginning that the Sobek is better than its counterpart in every single way. He exasperated a bit about it, but he's saying that it's not "meta" and can be easily outperformed. Knightmare's target audience is meta chasers and for them, Sobek just isn't it. Any weapon can "kill." Even the full Mk1 options. Incomparison to his build, yours is highly lacking. You're running 4 elemental mods and 2 augmented mods. You have no added crit, no faction mods, and no point-blank. What you have built is the equivalent of a CO primer weapon. Without massive help from Saryn, your build won't last long or perform very well in Steel Path.
@@berlioz4027 I more less like the idea of crowd control, crits aren’t everything in this game, status can be manipulated to be viable as can other aspects, with the right arcane my sobek can potentially disarm,destroy armor, and affect other targets , to be fair most opens don’t live long enough to get procs by magnetic effect, but it’s kinda nice to see a cloud of cold stirring in the air. You build your way and I’ll build my own. We can agree to respectfully disagree.
@@berlioz4027 second my build does well and even excels in steel path. I haven’t fully tested it with other warframes, so far I’ve done Excalibur Umbra, and Xaku( with nourish) so in theory and this isn’t plausible or combat viable my sobek could have void damage possibly.. if you have a tip that isn’t an exuberant mod like point blank, or any other prime mod I’d like to know about it. Raw damage or big numbers isn’t as important to me I like the imminent/eminent effects of cold,gas,radiation,magnetic Possibly (Viral/void) on a sobek
@@caryroberts6748 Oh totally, man! I support your idea to play as you see fit. If crowd control and status effects appeal to you, I believe your build works perfectly for your taste. If you wanted a suggestion, I'd sub out your magnetic for some multishot with Hells Chamber to really amp up the status accumulation. Magnetic is really a underwhelming status and only adds extra damage to shields. The effect itself jist reduces shield recharge delay to shields. If you're letting a corpus enemy recharge shields, it might be a good time to extract at that point haha. Also, all 4 of those status effects you have equipped cap at 10 stacks each. The clouds your seeing when you kill enemies are from your gas element. When you kill an enemy with gas status, it'll leave a cloud that inflicts Toxin damage. The more stacks they have on death, the bigger the cloud. As for the Sobek kicking ass with Xaku + Nourish, you're running the meta of Sobek and Acid Shells. Xata's Whisper adds bonus damage and void damage to the weapon. Viral multiplies damage dealt directly to the health of an enemy. The combo is armor strip, apply viral (from Nourish), kill enemy, explode with acid shells, and kills nearby enemy's that are effected by Viral (Xata Amplifies the explosion by applying a 2nd hit). Same instance happens with Toxic Lash on Saryn. That's why Xaku and Saryn are meta with Sobek. But anybody with armor strip, Viral, Xata Whisper, and or roar will make nearly any weapon supperior.
@@berlioz4027 see I’m wondering where shivering contagion comes into affect as for magnetic effect there is a unique synergy with primary obstruct and thing hit with magnetic affect will be dual weapons, making its extremely hard to shoot at you. As for multi shot I run galvanized hell and either Gal savvy or seeking fury the added punch through is a decent idea for ammo capacity being an issue long term with this weapon.
Corrosive heat or cold works better then the old tired viral slash heat type builds. Wouldn't know didn't take a normal approach and magnetic .ake the glazion a supe up nukor
I was so hoping before the reveal that the tenet weapon was gonna be the amprex, but tbh i have my amprex with 6 formas invested already, so im not that much disappointed because that means another weapon for me to build and try. And im a lover of beam weapons
If it doesn’t mention a time duration, it’s all the time. Just like every over mod. Even the galvanized mods have permanent base bonuses. How is this even a question?
@shinnokshogun8414 Not every weapon is going to be an S tier incarnon like the Torid or Lex. It's like a B+ to -A range. It's not flashy but it clears rooms on Steel Path and deletes Acolytes. And it's new augment also looks to be very good. It's still very good. I have a 60% Toxin with a riven and it's devastating on all frames.
pog weapons sobek 3 augments is neat tho but them blast changes with the justice syndicate effect since they seem to want to make them like the % hp aoe also acid shell and its other mods dont take the correct % hp on sp enemys
As someone who has a love for the glaxion, I can honestly say that the builds you came up with were underwhelming. I've come up with amazing builds for the vandal which synergizes perfectly and decimates quite easily. I'd recommend more uncanny setups to get the full potential.
@@zeromrcy As opposed to things like the Torid which you have to wait for up to potentially a month to get the genesis, then go through the circuit, then go through multiple duviri runs to get everything for it, then do a bunch of random missions to get all the incarnon evolutions?
@@zeothesnowwolf2937 great point but idk weve already had the kuva nukor for years and id personally wait a month for an op incarnon weapon vs a mid tier liche weapon
Man it's so hard to appreciate any new weapons after the standard set by the incarnons especially if they have no fun gimmick why the hell would I choose the glax instead of the incranon torid for example 😢
Yes. Radiated reload is arguably the best reload speed weapon now because of how little it costs putting it on and the additional damage, so it's not just bare utility. Rad procs also indirectly buff damage because the enemy no longer enjoys the protection of friendly auras. That build of his is just a mess
@@viking1430 uh, no? Wtf are you talking about? This game is all about figuring out useful combinations between different pieces of your gear, and warframes are a part of said gear just like any other weapon or ability.
@@FerunaLutelouyes it is lol, u can kill level cap with the stug lol, does that make the stug a good weapon ? No ! Sigh, u people will never get this so I won't say anymore
do not go toxin unless youre being lazy IMHO. you dont need 5 billion viral stacks. Even heat is better. Youll get viral heat with a lot better weighting for the actual DPS (heat). magnetic is nice for GunCO, though its not multiplicative. Radiation can be slotted in with one slot, so it's not quite as good for progenitor. with magnetic, you can run Corrosive or Gas on top of innate Cold with optional Viral from Nourish, Panzer, or priming. seems a lot more consistent to me for GunCO purposes. (A total of 5 elements with nourish + radiated reload: cold mag rad corro viral) side note, torid still has to transform on and off, so tenet glaxion could be comfier.
Heat isn't better for this weapon. You don't want to use an extra mod of cold to create viral and you don't want end up with blast on this weapon. This is not the kind of weapon that works well with blast.
i think i am gonna like the glaxion once i can get the augment from nightwave jsut swap it out for vital sense,could be a semi helpfull weapon that can also kill XD
I'd like for DE to let us use 2 primary weapons. That would be fun. We can already map wipe. What would be the harm in running a Gotva Prime and Sporothrix or Kuva Zarr and Kuva Hek?
"how does the tenet glaxion compare to the torid incarnon? its mediocre🤓☝️" maybe because the glaxion isnt an incarnon weapon lol its just a tenet weapon theyre two different tiers in terms of power
ok so let me shed some light. what other beam weapons that are primary that are beam weapons and are in the same category? amprex that's a regular weapon not "tenet" or "kuva", same with an ignis and both of those are old weapons and function differently. It's a new weapon without any interesting mechanic and does nothing special, so what would you compare it to? you need to have a base line and a weapon that's has similar functionality. and regardless of how you want to look at it, people will always want to compare things that function or look the same. 🤓☝
@KnightmareFrame I get that, but tbh I think incarnons are just in thier own league so I wouldn't compare them with anything but incarnons themselves. just my opinion though so no hate towards different views
@@very_silly_nikki emmm, thats your perpective, some players still using Lenz, but it doesn't mean, that Lenz doesn't sucks :D Sobek and glaxion is useless crap at high level content, tested both, with MS + dual ele rivens, index lvl even 150+ lvl >useless, void cascade sp, 300 lvl enemies> useless crap, bounites murmur sp, okaish, but sucks at over 300lvl murmur ar survival sp + they both are completely garbage vs alco and murmur/void guardians. What does mean "sucks", it means that there hundred of weapons which perfom just better, like it or no, fan boy u or not, does not matter. U guys always on hype with every new weapon release, buying overpriced rivens and then trying to def your dumb purchase while being toxic online D.
Using verglas and purple shards can change completely the weapons dmg on all weapons !!! Check and you will discover better weaponS than the small torid 😊
Could you do a video where you compare tenet glaxion vs glaxion vandal but you use a god rolled riven. Because I have a riven that gives +260% damage and +190% Crit damage and .7 damage to corpus. My vandal has hit 400k headshots on mirage. I just can’t image the tenet version doing that, do to its low riven disposition.
I’m a new player (1200 hours) and my beef is, why don’t they just add a level cap mode. Takes to long to get to level cap an really is an esoteric thing to do because of the time commitment. However I guess we will see what’s to come after Jade update.
1200 hours isn’t new. Also at first I wanted a level cap starchart but after thinking about it I realized that that would make endless modes more boring since there would be no endurance aspect. Idrk how to word how I feel but yeah.
Bro I obliterate anything in any content with mag and any weapon it doesn't mean the weapon is good. Mag can increase damage significantly and strip enemies. Even a mk1-furis with no incarnon will obliterate the enemy with certain Warframes lol
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bro builds his glaxion like a single digit mr player and complains that its underwhelming
Exactly.
You're a clown😊
It wouldn’t matter how you build the glaxion it still SUCKS
i was floored when i saw how bad his build was
glaxion is actually great
Guys he had a very good build but I mean once you've used the incarnon torid it's just impossible to appreciate this weapons power.
The problem is that the standard set by incarnon weapons is so far ahead of everything else that even the best non-incarnon weapons are seen as unviable or mid at best.
A perfect example is acceltra prime. Had it released before incarnons were a thing, it would have almost certainly been a top meta weapon alongside the likes of kuva bramma, kuva zarr, and tenet arca plasmor. However, torid incarnon, strun incarnon, and latron incarnon are so much better than every other aoe weapon that those previously meta weapons are now seen as bad or only decent. The ammo nerfs to most aoe weapons certainly didn't help given the above-mentioned incarnons effectively have infinite ammo as long as you can get headshots (not even that for torid in particular). Even Trumna is starting to fall behind.
Underrated comment. Those AOE weaps still have the damage, but the ammo issues make them nonviable. I'd wish they would revert or +50% the ammo drop change so we can have more usable weapons.
I mean I would still use the Bramma and Zarr if they would revert the ammo nerf now that we have incarnons. I still dont understand why they dont change the nerf when currently the strun incarnon is one of the best explosion weapons in the game as a shotgun
+1 must say i freakin love using acceltra BEFORE ammo nerf, AFTER i dont even push 1 forma for prime, just nah with that ammo pool.
Bramma and zarr same problem, ofc energized munitions works good but... but using it requires build when incarnon dont need to. They cut up these weapons in a very strange way 😢
Actually not a perfect example, because Acceltra and the original Gauss release . . . GAUSS was amazing, but the acceltra was a copium shit tier crit none status weapon with the worst ammo economy in the game necessitating PRIMED ammo mutator and carrier. Guess what, acceltra is still a shit tier weapon, but everyone and them mum has used it and it still uses the VIRAL HM build that was common during its launch with only a marginal difference because Helmith is a thing now. It WAS a meta weapon, one of the most used in fact but unlike incarnons it was just "fun" and not so much "effective" by comparison to other weapons back then. A better example was when there was only ZARR AND only a fool would pick the acceltra over it because the comparison of damage, crits, status was night and day . . . but guess how many people used the ZARR ? None, because a lot of people don't like single shell/slug reload. I never deleted my 4 forma Zarr from those days.
Therein lies the crux of this bad take and bad bias. Incarnons are a thing and technically they do some of the best types of damage for their given niche which for some of them "torid kills anything and everything, including rooms while the Vasto murders demolysts" really don't have much competition. Now, if you don't like those weapons there are a dime a dozen similar weapons that can almost do the same thing "kill stuff" but they might require a different setup which will be better for the individual player as opposed to just generally being a brain dead good option. < Insert MAG meta weapons here > Do incarnons do the thing extremely well and scale? Yes. Are they generally better than what else could be compared to them? Yes. Does everyone like charge mechanics or that you have a lengthy grind to get the adaptor, evolve it, and hope you like it? No. I've used most of the incarnons and some of them such as the LATO "even with mag, yareli, or a niche build that should make it shine " I just cant bring myself to use it. Meanwhile I have alliance mates who on a whim picked up a 50+ % ferrox from Glast and for whatever reason LOVE it because sometimes weapons just have feels and thats fine too . . . I got a high roll 57% impact and immediately swapped it to a heat after liking it initially many months later.
Most people wont do endurance in this account lifetime past the point it matters. Some players end up in the 1000s range with a lucky duviri team, but that experience is fleeting and limited. Even the most lame monkey with a horrible build on all but 1 weapon or warframe can do EDA. The prior week I had loyal yareli with a slam ruvox and did 45% team dps for the entire session and it wasn't even maxed out. There's NO content to justify the power of incarnons. Incarnons are just "win more, fun more." Outside of the meta there sits dozens of weapons with unique perks or characteristics that make it worth building and using even if incarnons might do a thing better. I love my praedos, but I'll use a Jat Kusar, Caustacyst, or Falcor over it at the drop of a hat.
The real problem is bias. People say revenant is amazing and insert meta warframe is godlike. Guess how many people drop a WTF in chat after they see an ember prime nuke a 215 SP heavy gunner with fewer than 4 spells. Ember can kill a SP Heavy in less than 2 seconds with it dying to the dot and do it faster than launch day Dante. Guess how many of my alliance dropped plat for an Ember Prime set or parts and invested into her? 5 or 6 of my alliance did it along side when I hyped up yareli months before she become FOMO. Thats the REAL problem with WF is that people have bias until you show them the potential. Why use Tenet Plinx over a Laetum or similar incarnon? Sometimes you're in the mood to YEET and murder entire packs of dudes and incarnons can't provide that.
LAzyFrame dropped a dumb video to drum up the comment section just like his Popcorn Tier List and I've seen him verbally berate/insult his viewers, so I guess thats the community he wants. A replicated Rio/Gaz shit show with no actual educational value or positive vibes except if its busted AF and will get patched "influence dual ichor as an example of that."
No Galvanized Savvy on the sobek is criminal. Never cook again
The issue at the moment, its not that the guns are bad, its just alot of players wont let go of the meta. Which in this situation are incarnon weapons. Im enjoying these weapons and they definitly do melt in lvl cap. I grew tired of incarnon weapons, meta loadouts tend to ruin any experience that new weapons can provide.
you know you can "level cap" with a stug, so that as a factor doesn't make them worth while at all.
there are a bunch of Kuva / Tenet weapons that are way better and do way more and are unique in what they do.
the game has evolved drastically and weapons should as well.
I'm actually not a fan of incarnons because of the ramp up which, while fast, 2 seconds in a 94 second mission is massive downtime. Even in harder missions it's a liability when there are weapons that function fine without the ramp
@@KnightmareFrame i dont disagree with you at all. Weapons should be evolving with the game. Just taking a look at ths comment section i couldnt help but make that statement due to majority saying "not worth removing incarnon"
@@actellimQT the 2 seconds is the reload, it would be the same as reloading your weapon lol. That's the stupidest thing I've read. Don't reload your weapons, there goes your 2 seconds. 😅🤣.
@@joshuaSand3rsbramma don't need reload
Calling rn the glaxion rating is going to get a complete 180 once cold gets it’s full freeze effect in jade shadows
nuh uh
And corrosive will strip more armor %
Cold is already good. You have a lot of mods for condition overload and arcanes to boost damage while applying cold, that doesn't only works well against enemies defense, also CC the enemy and boost your crit damage. People just have to stop making builds that rely purely on viral, corrosive, radiation. You have to put something else. As you can do corrosive+heat or electric on your secondary and use the new arcanes, or corrosive+cold, radiation+cold on your primary. The last one is great against bosses and disruption and murmur faction. People are just still stuck in creating the basics.
Absolute L take. You used to be great for Warframe. What happened? You're just a meta slave now that always needs to deal the highest ammount of damage. Your Video on Koumei saying she is horrible is also absolutely bullshit. You just can't really build anything that isn't pure DPS or? Even your Jade build, a SUPPORT frame, was just how much DPS can she do.
Been a fan of you for years, but I think it's time to unsub. Have a good one.
And for people actually wanting a good Glaxion build that deals damage, primes and CCs the enemies. These are left to right, top to bottom.
Malignant Force
Stormbringer
Photon Overcharge
Shivering Contagion
Galvanized Chamber
Galvanized Aptitude
Primed Shred (or regular Shred if you don't have the Primed one)
Critical Delay
Sinister Reach for the Exilus slot
Primary Frostbite Arcane.
Primed Shred, Sinister Reach and Shivering Contagion work together to freeze a whole room solid if they actually survive long enough to be frozen and you kind of spam it around. It's a 5m length and 10m depth cone infront of you that get's frozen from my testing so just essentially play Splatoon with it.
Photon Overcharge will not only increase your crit Damage but also supply you with energy with more energy orb drops.
I have a 60% Magnetic Tenet Glaxion. (magnetic for stripping overguard and corpus shields almost instantly)
With the above mods you should deal Corrosive => Cold => Magnetic in that order and priority. (With 2 normal green shards on your frame to increase corrosion stacks this will also armor strip almost instantly so it's 1 build for all factions.)
Ideally I use this with a Nautilus with Tenacious Bond and Reinforced Bond
And it pairs up Super Well with the Okina Prime Incarnon with a Melee Influence build since if the Glaxion ever doesn't deal enough damage it's still an amazing primer to push the Okina even further.
Funny enough a really good frame to use the Glaxion with is Koumei, the frame he thinks is shit.
Koumei is basically all 5 Archon mods + Augur Reach, Augur Message and Adaptation. With Arcane Blessing and Energize.
I have Rejuvenation as Aura and Power Drift as Exilus.
With all of these things combined I did a Netra Cell solo and even with all 4 Debuffs it was a walk in the Park.
If you string Enemies up with Koumeis 4th the Glaxion just slaps that much harder for some reason. And that is without rolling Jackpots.
Ty for this
While I agree with the sentiment you're going for on him being very tunnel visioned in the content that NUKES DPS GODMODE for easy views, there is absolutely nothing impressive about running netracells solo, nothing.
Kuva Hek has the best update because you can equip the 200 multi-shut mod with auto healing capabilities.
Honestly this is absolutely correct, kuva hek is way better
You can equip the augment? Since when
@@colinjames1753Since this new update, but just o the Kuva version, not on the Vaykor
Hating on Tenet Glaxion, because it's weaker than Torid is absurd.
Yeah no shit - Torid Incarnon is THE STRONGEST fucking weapon in the entire game. The fact Tenet Glaxion can compete with power of Torid just shows you how absurdly strong it is (remember Incarnons have 4 stat upgrades, Tenet/Kuva weapons have only 1).
What a brainless take, how can someone take this seriously is beyond my understanding.
Get a unranked glaxion riven with toxin and cold on it, keep it r0 and put max heat then it kills like crazy and no need to charge up an incarnon mode.
Normal sobek is stronger with riven, it needs it and faction mods which people dislike but acid shells double dips in faction mods so it's just better for a warframe with ability to spread. You only go crit on sobek with zephyr or the crit does nothing.
Sorry but they are better weaponS than the torid !!!
@@Artax2040 torrid has riven dispo 4. Also tennet glaxion is super strong if you get an non upgraded r0 riven with cold and toxin to get a small viral and bug heat proc with 3 heat mods on.
@@knowvoid9958 on tenet weapon, you can do corro + magnetic + radiation + heat + add nourish for viral.... Add galvined attitude... Use verglas as primer.... And Shot !
I clicked on this video for the comments. You got your “view” and I got my entertainment.
I pretty sure it only sucks because the eximus slot won’t allow Prime Sure Footed.
Learn English before attempting to criticise someone.
Lmao
@@hipperguy1654 KnightmareFrame isn't going to fuck you, bro
oof this video didnt age well
The only thing that's disappointing is this video
You have to be my favorite content creator and Warframe has a lot of great content creators.
I just discovered your channel a few short months ago and personally I don't think anybody explains things better while giving him depth explanations.
There are so many small nuances in this game and I have to say I'm very impressed how you take all these nuances and put them together in your builds and in your in-depth explanations.
But what I truly enjoy is the laid-back approach and at the same time diving right into the nitty gritty and smiling the entire time.
Fairly recently I was diagnosed with a condition known as CIRS which was formerly known as sick building syndrome. In my case I lack the enzymes necessary to break down mold in my body and it bypasses the blood brain barrier causing all the symptoms I've had my entire life. But I can't get treated because I can't afford it and I can't afford to leave this mold infested house And it causes all kinds of difficulties processing information. It's frustrating because I'm an ENTP and I love The challenges of uncovering new ways of doing things But because of my condition sometimes getting dressed is a challenge especially doing it alone.
And this isn't meant to minimize any of the other content creators. And IMHO this game would not have achieved its success without the content creators that it has and has had.
Thank You!
Stay strong champ.🏆
Depending on how the rework to cold status might go, tenet glaxion might have potential and could be worth investing in
Cold is already worth investing. People just don't know it yet. Specially after the release of frostbite. People are sleeping. The only thing that the rework will do is make it a lot easier to kill people. But cold is good for many different reasons. And is a must go in many hard content such as disruption where you need to slow down enemies and if you have a frame with CC skills they will be stunned for a while. Let's not even talk about how it works well against armor, shields and even gives you a boost on crit damage. 😅
@@joshuaSand3rsthat's just like a priming thing though, with the epitaph
They're here for fan service. People wanted sobek wraith forever and now we get the nice kuva version. I am a glaxion enjoyer as well and I will happily take another upgrade on me lazer gun
Who let you cook?
My man cooks like he's never seen a kitchen
Have you seen the Saryn build, all 5 emerald shards on toxin status deals more % damage, acid shells + roar, strength build? I heard that its really good, unfort acid shells is bugged =(, maybe you can do a build with her or do you think this is a flop build?
edit: 5 emerald shards on toxin dmg or 3 on toxin dmg and 2 on corrosion stacks, not sure which is better
prob the second cus armor go poof
For the Glaxion I would not recommend a hunter munitions setup, the performance is really weak and TTK is kinda mid. Try going magnetic (progenitor) with corrosive and cold, add some punch through and Primary Frostbite and top that bad boy off with the usual bane, gun CO, mulitshot and crit also viral from an external source, primer, nourish or companion whatever flavor you choose (In other words very close to your last loadout with some tweaks). Now your weapon links to more units compliments of punch through and it TTK is much better and makes the weapon more fun to play with. Still need to run some warframe synergy tests with this one though so perhaps HM perform better with the right frame but so far it is not my go to for this weapon. That goes the same for level cap runs, still need to test performance there for scalability.
As for the Sobek, I have not gotten my hands on one yet but I would assume an acid shell warframe combo would still do bits and if acid shell is bugged well that is fine they will fix that in due time and once we get that new augment from nightwave we can really play around with this one. Big old time fan of this gun so I am keen to see if any of these breathe new life into the weapon for me with some fun new / old setups for synergy.
I will say though keep an eye on these weapons when we finally get our hands on their augments and when the future changes talked about in the dev streams come in for elements and shields.
I remember Kyai showcasing Acid shells and the similar mods not scaling properly on Steel Path enemies as well. Was that ever fixed? For some reason the percentage didn’t take the steel path health modifiers into account
It doesn’t account for armor scaling just like shattering impact. Using armor strip fixes this issue
@@Tan42069 except the testing was on unarmored enemies. It doesn’t take steel path’s health modifiers into account, has nothing to do with armor. If you take the same level enemy side by side with armor stripped, you will see it’s not doing the same percentage of damage on steel path.
The Kuva Sobek is a little disappointing. They should add a quirk or something and give it some innate punch-through.
The Tenet Glaxion is a neat upgrade.
Both are good weapons.
yeah innate punch-through would be insane buff for that weapon
@@valgykmorka Not insane at all. Single Target weapons are not very meta, the exceptions are almost all Incarnons.
The chain weapon type is the best or almost the best type in the game now
He is the only person saying these weapons are bad. Literally everybody else I’ve seen says they’re both great.
Cuz they cope for views
i didn't try glaxion, but sobek is just... mid..., it's good if you play saryn and kill a heavy gunner, which is pretty niche, so it's just annoying to use
Because youtube mans don't want weapons weaker than incarnon that cannot do level cap, because that's is the only content they play and is somewhat hard for someone who has everything in the game
sobek meh and acid shells bugged
glaxion bassicly on par with torid
but its because they arnt that diffrent from their none tenet kuva versions
he is probly just mad cus the glaxion isnt difficult to make good, its a strong primer, and cold is a meta again so idk how anyone can say its not good, ive seen other vids of it doing good work on level 225's, which is good enough to praise. not everyone gives a shit about level cap and long survivals, its not as difficult as it used to be. this dude seems to be stuck on super technical builds that need a lot of this for that and do this to make this work and THEN RED CRITS type shit. if he cant make a stupid technical full kit dependent build, his videos will be just like everyone elses. SOME of his builds are good tho so i keep an eye out but mostly i dont like this dude and he used to talk real rude to people like theyre dumb if they dont do shit his way.
Will have fun running the glaxion on dagath
I'm using the original sobek with my saryn Prime Build right now, and I could nuke the entire room, honestly. The only issue I'm having right now is the materials for voidgel orbs, which I have to farm either cascade or void flood; just to feed my helminth.
exactly what were they thinking, if were not getting a cool alt fire why even farm for it and sp cascade is imo the best mission in the game solo 1-3 rounds for a great amount of resources and dopamine
You know a Warframe video isn't doing well if you dont see Pope of Awesomeness within the first 10 comments
I shall recommend you use the mighty seer (with secondary shiver) in his stead.
Thank you for the reload; I couldn't figure out where that went.👍
So far the best thing about the Sobek is the lich's name I got was "Logg Aff"
😂😂
Mine was named Pog.
Whoa is that background music from ArcheAge? God what a throwback, surprised to hear it here
I agree with the sobak opinion. Its just a sobak with better stats but worst rivens.
Glaxion tho? You went with the wrong progenitor. Radiation/magnetic are the call with this weapon. A slash build works great on this weapon but ill personally go with corrosive + cold + radiation/magnetic.
The benefit this weapon have over something like torid or boar is that you don't have to build an incarnon charge. And primary frostbite also works wonders with this wespon.
At tge very least we only got 1 disappointment
What a joke. You don't need to build the incar on on boar. The weapon is way better without the beam of the charged incarnon. On board you wanna enjoy the multishot of the weapon, not the beam with increase fire rate. You talking about builds and talking about others that you can't even build properly yourself, apparently. And he did a corrosive+cold build at the end. I'd also go for radiation cold with frostbite, I'd just change 2-3 mods he puts on his build what isn't bad either. Most of builds streamer does are general builds, when you will probably make a different build more specific build to play certain content. You can't say the built is wrong, because it doesn't match your specific build, built for slash, that doesn't work for all contents. And why magnetic? It's one of the worst elements for this weapon. The only reason you are picking magnetic is for that plus condition overload that won't add much and even against corpus cold alone works a lot better against the shields. If you said electric. I'd even consider because it would work well with building either corrosive and radiation with cold plus would work well with purple shards if you wanted to make a build based on that. But magnetic has no good option unless you are old, didn't evolve with the game and you're still thinking about having an extra stats for condition overload.
@@joshuaSand3rsbro what ? Electric ? How does electric proj make any sense at all. I agree with his comment, he’s not the only one in the comment section with this opinion. Primary frostbite is great for endurance. No kills required to activate the perk on top of superior increase in CD and MS over base dmg. You also talk about gun CO as if it is overrated but that one additional element adds an additional 80% damage that you lose from swapping to primary frostbite. Not to mention crit buffs from cold procs. we know cold procs are getting a buff as well. And magnetic is going to be more useful in the future. His build of just viral or corrosive cold is so obviously suboptimal and that is before the status changes that are coming in the future.
Glaxion with Mag/Rad/Corro/Cold is definitely the optimal root and isn’t for a specific play-style. No outside buffs are needed to make it viable and works on its own. If you don’t understand why it’s better just admit it
thank god someone big is talking about the bug otherwise it will never get fixed. DE please fix the LOS
Dude reffers himself as endgame player, yet doesn't know how to build weapons... yikes
uat is the better build ?
@@johankaruyan5536 corrosive rad cold with magnetic progenitor, I also don't understand why he decided to put a magazine mod on a weapon that already has a pretty big magazine, and I would replace vile acceleration with shred aswell
@@dazubel y use rad and cold ?
Radiated reload increases reload speed, gives an extra status for galvanized aptitude, gives a bit of cc and helps with alloy armor and some factions like murmur.
Cold is the innate element of the weapon, will synergize with its augment, and you can use primary frostbite to get tons of multishot and crit dmg without needing to stack up like merciless. It is going to get buffed on next major update, so we'll see
when did he reffer that
last time i checked
he has said wf has no endgame and hes a late gameplayer
"It says 90% crit chance so i'm not sure how long that lasts" :') Always good for a laugh
Not all weapons have to be dopamine fuel,you're use to spamming incarnons but regulars are just as viable
with primed shred or normal shred it chains to 6 enemies
I know the wording is not the best, but it literally says that is for the magazine the mod
At current we haven't received the best advantage of cold. The selling point to cold is mostly taken advantage of by Frost (I plan to abuse it for sure). Sobek so far has a faction mod that adds a AoE effect, its high pellet status chance is nice to use, and it does well when modded. I found that taking cold for the shotgun progenitor (I had gotten a lucky 56% cold) allows this weapon to take advantage of the Nightwave status sobek mod and the sobek mod from steel meridian well. When they finish working cold in, they say that all cold applications can stack to 10, freezing the target and guaranteeing all hits on said target are near instant crit if not instant crit. Now add in Primary Frostbites main effect and you can push this little wonder tool to be a hybrid crit and status weapon. As I mathed (and its not the greatest), if you run the new multi mod and cold builders (sobek doesnt have to use cold itself, so long as you have a good back-up to build it or even a pet weapon to prime, I plan to run 2 versions, one for armor and health and one for shield strip which is enhanced cause its blunt follow up, glax is cool, but I think its best if we get the mod for it in nightwave and see how Frost handles it)
Frost has a special augment that allows people to steamroll frozen targets, adding a insane critical and effect on target meaning the frozen buff should benefit all frames, but frost's augment for dealing extra freeze damage or cold will really be nuts.
The build I went with at current for Kuva Sobek (56% cold for reference) is to run Galvanized Hell, Galvanized savvy, Toxic Barrage, (I threw in charged shell at 7 to keep myself to get the 60% electrical mod), shattering justice, frigged blast, clip delegation, and then cause I'm throwing so many pellets out I put a faction mod in (to take advantage of the odd status effects it applies). This build will work well against a lot of targets, toss in if you use this on Frost you can do a lot of interesting stat funnies such as that 200% dmg to frozen enemies and increase critical chance (which will be downright busted once the cold changes are fully implemented), and if you can add in say terrify (For armor strip) then you can straight out use just boosters for status and focus on damage/crit outright.
This build can be done by other shotguns just changed up a bit, Corinth is great with cold for example, puncture creates a higher chance to crit the target per stack, and cold increases critical damage, if done right you should be hitting red crits on most targets within 1 or 2 shots. I'd take a good companion that can rapidly apply cold, keep the Primary Frostbite, and change Corinth too a crit only weapon with heavy multi-shot and crit stacking. You can use anything as a back-up to prime the room, such as Kuva Nukor or Epitaph. I'd definetly take advantage of as much multi-shot and get the status to around 30%.
I tried to do something similar to Felarx, if you use Frost's Augment to get that extra damage to frozen the crits are stupid and the non crits hit like a truck anyways, the enemy doesn't win, its great because of incarnon adds radiation as well making the fellarx a great thunder delete against the Murmur enemies while also runing all the advantages of both sides when crits hit even if its low chance (throw enough stuff at the wall and you can still crit at times)
still aint that diffrent from normal sobek
Knightmare frame is really bad, he doesn't even have umbral sure footed
I feel like @KnightmareFrame Wants More power creep in this game based on videos like these.
Like just because it doesn’t compete with Torid the TOP meta weapons doesn’t mean it’s bad. Like another way to get energy is always nice, more build flexibility with no room for nourish or energize. And an aoe weapon that doesn’t have ammo problems is always a welcome addition (Obviously they are gonna fix the LoS bug. Why can’t you just explain how much better it is going to be than the normal sobek once it’s fixed.) Not to mention his complete disregard of augments cause we don’t know yet.
Somewhat glad he’s receiving backlash on this video. Hating on these weapons so much and so disappointed why?
no he was dissopointed because they didnt have anything unique
So you don't know what you are doing. Weird that you'd put out a video to publicly state as such, but more power to ya I guess? Might want to do actual proper testing and alter your builds.
I only like tenet glaxion because I'm a sucker for chaining beam weps
We are not thinking on the big sleeper here: frost. With the new changes, will he add the critic of his augment to enemies frozen with the glaxion? We need to wait to see this, i went for a full cold damage glaxion to test this when the changes comes. its too early to judge the glaxion just now
I was also recently tweaking about the Ui changes relating to the magazine, specifically reload time. I liked knowing that information while viewing. Nowadays, it's hard to find
Boring?!
Someone's been spoiled rotten with incarnons, I see!
Bro's fuming that these weapons one-shot enemies a bit less hard than Incarnons one shot enemies.
His content mostly revolves around endgame meta builds and weapons. If you compare these new weapons with the meta ones it really is indeed underwhelming.
@@godslayer4047so if it doesnt appeal to lardass mfs that stay like 4 hours in disruption sp it is trash, noted
Man...the issue is that these weapons (Kuva,Tenet and Future infested) is that they need a rework/buff. If you compare them to incarnated weapons then yes they are weak. My issue is that the time feels about the same no matter what you shoot for just for the incarnated weapons. DE needs to give these weapons something new and tell the Torid to go screw itself. Its too overused and everyone knows it.
damn... expanding the forma pool for all the MR we need to get from lich and tennet weapons.
Tbh I liked sobek and especially with gauss it goes boom boom boom😂
Didn't know acid shell was bugged I thought they had just added an internal cooldown to it. I got my kuva sobek yesterday and was playing around with it and noticed the inconsistency. I was also using the normal sobek on telesto to grind for my kuva sobek and thought it was quite odd it was inconsistently proccing acid shells, but it would proc frequently enough to make me feel as though it had a cooldown. I wouldn't have been surprised to see that happen to acid shells since the kuva sobek was going to be released and as far as I'm aware not that many people know how fun acid shells could be but would look into builds and then there would be an upsurge of players using the sobek/ looking for builds on the sobek and learning of the acid shells mod and how it makes a shotgun a room deleter. Anyway good to know it wasn't actually an internal cooldown but just a bug that cropped up. Hopefully they don't decide to town it down and then look at the Jat kittag and adjust that weapons mod.
The wiki isn't everything, however, the revision history on Acid Shells shows they added the Note about it having a Line of Sight check in 2021. Additionally, CoolKid369 has a kinda deep dive Sobek video from June 2022, which mentions and shows off the LOS check too.
Seems that a lot of the love some people had for Acid Shells was a bug
Iirc the LOS apply yo sobek acid longtime ago. Even the mob can block other mob from getting damaged
Normally I don't like to compare creators like this, but it's weird coming to your video after just watching Leyzar's video on the Tenet Glaxion.
He compares it roughly on par with Incarnon weapons. I suspect its because he went Radiation on the Glaxion instead of Toxin.
I noticed knightmare frame put a lot more quality of life sort of mods on his rather than adding more elemental dmg. I think that's the difference. More elemental dmg mods to create both more base dmg and more statuses for aptitude.
@@ragingmonkey4592yup. IMO QoL improvements for your weapon are better to get from external sources so you can focus on damage
@@ragingmonkey4592 He has ONE QoL mod on his glaxion build (mag capacity) Tf are you smoking?
Lol at least use anz as example, but leyzar? He is like 99% of content creator of wf community, always display weapon power using wf that are used for weapon plataform builds, he makes dot builds and dont use factions mods, use rivens to make a weapon work(more rng, and one of worst ones in this game). To make this new guns works: 1. Fixed sobek aug (acid shells) bug. 2. Wait for element change rework and maybe glaxion will performe better. You know why he is disapointed? The same reason people are complaining in the comments we are tired of using incarnons, tenet and kuva weapons should perform as good as incarnons considering the time invesment we put to get them and resorces spent (aka. Plat). Thats why I dont even bother watching other creator since they only do is simp for DE. We deserve better.
Leyzars content is more focused on casuals and day to day gameplay
Knightmares content are focused more on endgame meta builds
So yes their opinions may vary
I'm worried that adversary weapons are slowly falling in to the same fate as prime weapons. DE hasn't been putting much thought or care in to new prime weapons outside of appearance for a while now, and it appears that they are starting to do the same with new adversary weapons.
They are realy good with specific warframes and builds. Kuva sobek ( toxin) -> Saryn. Tenet glaxion (radiation) -> Qorvex. (I don't realy like the shown builds.)
Exactly, either the kuva sobek or sobek itself, you need acid shells mod for the sobek, run around with the sobek mod that just came out recently, use saryn with acid dose.
personaly i think sobek just need Punch trough and its ok ish shotgun, glaxion on the other hand i love
DE's idea of balance is atrocious lmao
i honestly think they regret all the powerful weapons they introduced into the game, but its too late to back down
Games a clusterfuck of competing ideas. It sucks at times for sure.
i already use the sobek forcing it's crit, also frees a mod slot so i can add either the augment or punch through so it's great! assuming the riven disposition doesn't let me down
All im hearing was, PAIN and SUFFERING inside of KF
classic case of puts viral on every weapon calls it a day lol
Viral on Glaxion 🤦
My god is good with crit, not status gun.
My brother in Christ that Glaxion build is MID at best, don't ever cook again 😭🙏
Do you think the augments will make much of a difference? Least with the Sobek?
still waiting for DE to add more syndicate weapons, syndicate weapon mods, maybe syndicate special warframes, Would love a Tenet Opticor, maybe a Kuva Buzzlok.
Of course you're going to be disappointed.. I'm tired
Halcyona theme was a gut punch of nostalgia
KnightmareTakes when the weapon doesn’t win the game in .02ms
TIme to update the saryn + sobek combo with the new augment and kuva variant
Have to respectfully disagree on the Sobek experience it’s still better than its counterpart, there are some impressive builds out there already, of course it’s the a few forma and inquisitive imagination, if it’s not “meta” it means your builds need work. That’s the beauty of this game most if not all things can be broken or made to behave completely differently. I am running a Cold,Gas,Radiation,Magnetic ,Acid shells
Shivering contagion,shattering justice
Its does the job and then some
He does mention in the beginning that the Sobek is better than its counterpart in every single way. He exasperated a bit about it, but he's saying that it's not "meta" and can be easily outperformed. Knightmare's target audience is meta chasers and for them, Sobek just isn't it. Any weapon can "kill." Even the full Mk1 options. Incomparison to his build, yours is highly lacking. You're running 4 elemental mods and 2 augmented mods. You have no added crit, no faction mods, and no point-blank. What you have built is the equivalent of a CO primer weapon. Without massive help from Saryn, your build won't last long or perform very well in Steel Path.
@@berlioz4027 I more less like the idea of crowd control, crits aren’t everything in this game, status can be manipulated to be viable as can other aspects, with the right arcane my sobek can potentially disarm,destroy armor, and affect other targets , to be fair most opens don’t live long enough to get procs by magnetic effect, but it’s kinda nice to see a cloud of cold stirring in the air. You build your way and I’ll build my own. We can agree to respectfully disagree.
@@berlioz4027 second my build does well and even excels in steel path. I haven’t fully tested it with other warframes, so far I’ve done Excalibur Umbra, and Xaku( with nourish) so in theory and this isn’t plausible or combat viable my sobek could have void damage possibly.. if you have a tip that isn’t an exuberant mod like point blank, or any other prime mod I’d like to know about it. Raw damage or big numbers isn’t as important to me I like the imminent/eminent effects of cold,gas,radiation,magnetic
Possibly (Viral/void) on a sobek
@@caryroberts6748 Oh totally, man! I support your idea to play as you see fit. If crowd control and status effects appeal to you, I believe your build works perfectly for your taste. If you wanted a suggestion, I'd sub out your magnetic for some multishot with Hells Chamber to really amp up the status accumulation. Magnetic is really a underwhelming status and only adds extra damage to shields. The effect itself jist reduces shield recharge delay to shields. If you're letting a corpus enemy recharge shields, it might be a good time to extract at that point haha. Also, all 4 of those status effects you have equipped cap at 10 stacks each. The clouds your seeing when you kill enemies are from your gas element. When you kill an enemy with gas status, it'll leave a cloud that inflicts Toxin damage. The more stacks they have on death, the bigger the cloud. As for the Sobek kicking ass with Xaku + Nourish, you're running the meta of Sobek and Acid Shells. Xata's Whisper adds bonus damage and void damage to the weapon. Viral multiplies damage dealt directly to the health of an enemy. The combo is armor strip, apply viral (from Nourish), kill enemy, explode with acid shells, and kills nearby enemy's that are effected by Viral (Xata Amplifies the explosion by applying a 2nd hit). Same instance happens with Toxic Lash on Saryn. That's why Xaku and Saryn are meta with Sobek. But anybody with armor strip, Viral, Xata Whisper, and or roar will make nearly any weapon supperior.
@@berlioz4027 see I’m wondering where shivering contagion comes into affect as for magnetic effect there is a unique synergy with primary obstruct and thing hit with magnetic affect will be dual weapons, making its extremely hard to shoot at you. As for multi shot I run galvanized hell and either Gal savvy or seeking fury the added punch through is a decent idea for ammo capacity being an issue long term with this weapon.
Corrosive heat or cold works better then the old tired viral slash heat type builds. Wouldn't know didn't take a normal approach and magnetic .ake the glazion a supe up nukor
I was so hoping before the reveal that the tenet weapon was gonna be the amprex, but tbh i have my amprex with 6 formas invested already, so im not that much disappointed because that means another weapon for me to build and try. And im a lover of beam weapons
If it doesn’t mention a time duration, it’s all the time. Just like every over mod. Even the galvanized mods have permanent base bonuses.
How is this even a question?
well of course the galv have those
they are the base mods with slightly lower effect and an added bonus
but sobek isnt like that
i want something like kuva trumna for my own sake
Wouldn’t make sense since it has an alt fire already
@@axdenplayz2367alt fire isn't a kuva weapon thing and also trumna isn't a grineer weapon. Next time use some braincells before writing nonsens
@@ReAcTiJOKERr you talking to me?
@@ReAcTiJOKERr if me yeah it’s nonsense cuz its just will never happen i just want to
@@axdenplayz2367 and hey about the alt fire, kiva zar has alt fire (the shotgun mode) it’s technically an alt fire.
Bruh the Sobek is insane....
Arcane Blight+Toxin×Acid Shells×Saryn= war crime stick
Might wanna get a bit more education on how to build it.
Saryn makes it shine. That’s it…… it’s still mediocre. not a bad weapon, just not impressive
@shinnokshogun8414 Not every weapon is going to be an S tier incarnon like the Torid or Lex. It's like a B+ to -A range. It's not flashy but it clears rooms on Steel Path and deletes Acolytes.
And it's new augment also looks to be very good.
It's still very good. I have a 60% Toxin with a riven and it's devastating on all frames.
In that case, with saryn, the normal sobek is just better because of the riven stats.
as a saryn player the kubek was underwhelming af
If you need saryn to build it right then it isn't insane and you're flexing with oil injects.
I started to farm them ended up farming another arca plasmor and another kuva tonkor lol
pog weapons
sobek 3 augments is neat tho
but them blast changes with the justice syndicate effect since they seem to want to make them like the % hp aoe
also acid shell and its other mods dont take the correct % hp on sp enemys
That acid shell bug is a bummer tho. Ngl
As someone who has a love for the glaxion, I can honestly say that the builds you came up with were underwhelming. I've come up with amazing builds for the vandal which synergizes perfectly and decimates quite easily. I'd recommend more uncanny setups to get the full potential.
is the ueapon good uithout use of uarframe synergies ?
@@johankaruyan5536 Yes.
Incarnons kinda ruined warframe a bit .
digital extreme did, the only thing saving this game is the true endgame
fashionframe and collecting, everything else is trash
@@fran13r 😔
nah
"boring" weapons idk what this guy wants, a one shot weapon? YES VERY COOL AND FUN HAHA.
yes they are fun
right definitely not boring but its just better options that arent locked behind annoying liches
@@zeromrcy As opposed to things like the Torid which you have to wait for up to potentially a month to get the genesis, then go through the circuit, then go through multiple duviri runs to get everything for it, then do a bunch of random missions to get all the incarnon evolutions?
As opposed to the Glaxion which can be obtained at MR6 pretty much
@@zeothesnowwolf2937 great point but idk weve already had the kuva nukor for years and id personally wait a month for an op incarnon weapon vs a mid tier liche weapon
What is ur Calus Mini Tool?
Man it's so hard to appreciate any new weapons after the standard set by the incarnons especially if they have no fun gimmick why the hell would I choose the glax instead of the incranon torid for example 😢
People will cry when DE nerf the Torid riven dispo 😂
A few months ago they said they are only buffing riv dispos not nerfing cause they feel like its unfair to people who grind or bought the riv
Torid doesn't need a riven to be god tier
they will cry until people tell them it doesnt fockin matter
your glaxion build trash! my Glaxion murders things and is good w magnetic even DE uses magnetic on it
couldn't Radiated Reload be used for additional element and still gain some reload speed ?
Yes. Radiated reload is arguably the best reload speed weapon now because of how little it costs putting it on and the additional damage, so it's not just bare utility. Rad procs also indirectly buff damage because the enemy no longer enjoys the protection of friendly auras.
That build of his is just a mess
Use the sobek with saryn that goes crazy
Not the problem. Problem is Acid Shells not working properly.
If you need to use a specific frame/build to make a weapon work, then the weapon is meh at best.
@@viking1430 uh, no? Wtf are you talking about? This game is all about figuring out useful combinations between different pieces of your gear, and warframes are a part of said gear just like any other weapon or ability.
@@FerunaLutelouyes it is lol, u can kill level cap with the stug lol, does that make the stug a good weapon ? No ! Sigh, u people will never get this so I won't say anymore
@@johankaruyan5536they are dumb, just give up. They don't know what niche and meh is
Bro wants kuva surefoooted😂
do not go toxin unless youre being lazy IMHO. you dont need 5 billion viral stacks. Even heat is better. Youll get viral heat with a lot better weighting for the actual DPS (heat). magnetic is nice for GunCO, though its not multiplicative. Radiation can be slotted in with one slot, so it's not quite as good for progenitor.
with magnetic, you can run Corrosive or Gas on top of innate Cold with optional Viral from Nourish, Panzer, or priming. seems a lot more consistent to me for GunCO purposes. (A total of 5 elements with nourish + radiated reload: cold mag rad corro viral)
side note, torid still has to transform on and off, so tenet glaxion could be comfier.
only time id get 5 billion viral stacks is if im fighting vor
and thats not a joke for some reason vor takes more then 10 viral stacks
Heat isn't better for this weapon. You don't want to use an extra mod of cold to create viral and you don't want end up with blast on this weapon. This is not the kind of weapon that works well with blast.
i think i am gonna like the glaxion once i can get the augment from nightwave jsut swap it out for vital sense,could be a semi helpfull weapon that can also kill XD
Still no Limbo build ehh🥲
The build in the glaxion is flawed
I'd like for DE to let us use 2 primary weapons. That would be fun. We can already map wipe.
What would be the harm in running a Gotva Prime and Sporothrix or Kuva Zarr and Kuva Hek?
Double secondary would also be fun
1:40 THIS, they could atleast give us the option for both!
"how does the tenet glaxion compare to the torid incarnon? its mediocre🤓☝️" maybe because the glaxion isnt an incarnon weapon lol its just a tenet weapon theyre two different tiers in terms of power
ok so let me shed some light.
what other beam weapons that are primary that are beam weapons and are in the same category? amprex that's a regular weapon not "tenet" or "kuva", same with an ignis and both of those are old weapons and function differently.
It's a new weapon without any interesting mechanic and does nothing special, so what would you compare it to? you need to have a base line and a weapon that's has similar functionality.
and regardless of how you want to look at it, people will always want to compare things that function or look the same. 🤓☝
@@KnightmareFrameyou're literally comparing it to by far the best weapon in the game, no shit its gonna be bad in comparison
@KnightmareFrame I get that, but tbh I think incarnons are just in thier own league so I wouldn't compare them with anything but incarnons themselves. just my opinion though so no hate towards different views
Phantasma is pretty good eh?
@@very_silly_nikki emmm, thats your perpective, some players still using Lenz, but it doesn't mean, that Lenz doesn't sucks :D Sobek and glaxion is useless crap at high level content, tested both, with MS + dual ele rivens, index lvl even 150+ lvl >useless, void cascade sp, 300 lvl enemies> useless crap, bounites murmur sp, okaish, but sucks at over 300lvl murmur ar survival sp + they both are completely garbage vs alco and murmur/void guardians. What does mean "sucks", it means that there hundred of weapons which perfom just better, like it or no, fan boy u or not, does not matter. U guys always on hype with every new weapon release, buying overpriced rivens and then trying to def your dumb purchase while being toxic online D.
agree on the reload ui change lol
Using verglas and purple shards can change completely the weapons dmg on all weapons !!! Check and you will discover better weaponS than the small torid 😊
5:56 what music?
What is the song of 11:30?
Could you do a video where you compare tenet glaxion vs glaxion vandal but you use a god rolled riven. Because I have a riven that gives +260% damage and +190% Crit damage and .7 damage to corpus. My vandal has hit 400k headshots on mirage. I just can’t image the tenet version doing that, do to its low riven disposition.
I’m a new player (1200 hours) and my beef is, why don’t they just add a level cap mode. Takes to long to get to level cap an really is an esoteric thing to do because of the time commitment. However I guess we will see what’s to come after Jade update.
oh shut up about being a new player
because they cater to the casual playerbase and new players
@@noahedenborg4221 no I mean that guy claiming he's a new player while having 1200 hours
1200 hours isn’t new. Also at first I wanted a level cap starchart but after thinking about it I realized that that would make endless modes more boring since there would be no endurance aspect. Idrk how to word how I feel but yeah.
Huh?? i just saw some dudes obliterating everything in the map using Mirage and Tenet Glaxion, even without the augments those 2 are behemoths
Lol... Mirage obliterate with any weapon
Even trash weapons with op frames can be turned op as well
Bro I obliterate anything in any content with mag and any weapon it doesn't mean the weapon is good. Mag can increase damage significantly and strip enemies. Even a mk1-furis with no incarnon will obliterate the enemy with certain Warframes lol
This man is not enthused at all about these weapons lol
why would you be?
@@Hejirah hell naw lmao 🤣
well yeah its jsut stat increases nothng else
imagine using HM on beam weapon instead of elemental DOT build😮
Internal bleeding exists
Yea nah , with gas the glax too fun
Blast takes it to another level of fun.
Chaining explosions that deal fuck ton of damage? Hell yeah, sign me up!!