Can Russians support Russia without supporting Putin? (Learn Russian)
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Max and Yulia, thanks for another thoughtful and intelligent discussion about an important issue. Your points can apply anywhere. Citizens of a country can love their country whether or not they agree with whoever is in power at the moment.
A million marched against the Iraq War in gb. It didn't make any difference.
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Thank you for teaching us russian,
I am Serbo-Croatian-Bosnian speaker and live in Canada, your presentation of Russian language is so buetifull and makes russian sounds good, I understand 60+% as you speak and want to learn as to be profficiant -- ћирилично alphabet is familiar to me , please stay in Serbia you will be good there
У американцев было 20 лет поддержки нашей страны без поддержки войны на Ближнем Востоке. Америка никогда не была Бушем. Политика сложная штука. Я все равно буду изучать русский язык. Здравствуйте друзья
I am learning Russian
Thank you for talking through our collective mentality and how it's shaped! Important civics lesson and a great Russian lesson to boot 💙
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Excellent discussion. Here in Costa Rica, a country in Latin America, we love to criticize the authorities, like a collective hobby but this is not related to a lack of patriotism . For us patriotism is love for our traditions, our History and natural scenery. That's about it.
Love hearing from y’all and your very interesting and intelligent discussion. It’s delightful to hear your critical thinking and thoughtfulness. Thank you 🙏.
Doubt is mother of wisdom. Especially doubt in ourselves. It saves us from embarrassment 20 or 30 years later. When you think that you know all, crystal clear, be patient and wait. Then 30 years later, compare your thoughts.
Па никакви политичару и никаква политика у пракси не ваљају. Тако да је сувишно толико расправљати о томе и објашњавати. И ја сам против рата, увек, али сам потпуно на страни Русије у овој њеној самоодбрани од насртаја Запада!
Много лет назад я съездил в Молдавию, общался с местным жителем и спросил насчёт уровня жизни в стране. Улыбнувшись, сказал: Политика плохая, но всё остальное хорошо. Не понимаю почему, но эти слова произвели огромное впечатление на меня.
Я всегда был русофилом, сомнительные действия российской власти вряд ли смогут повлиять на моё отношение к России.
Меня привлекает культура, природа, история, но не политика.
To me is is absolutely obvious that a person can love their country and disagree with the current government's policies.
we can even disagree with the government because we love our country.
You guys are great. I understand more and more Russian. Thanks for your dialogues and views. Glad you both are well.
I can not understand them well. I will never learn this language 😥😥😥😥
@@deutschmitpurple2918 Be patient and work hard and step by step you'll get to learn russian. I learn russian and i think it's difficult but i enjoy so much learning this interesting language. 😀
well idk guys it's your life and if you don't vibe with something you don't ..being government or any particular thing ..I also don't vibe my Serbian government but I love my country so I get you.
hope you two have great time in Belgrade,you picked a perfect city tbh ..Serbian ppl love Russian ppl in general ..I just hope I cud visit Russia someday ..it's been one of my goals
If I love Serbia I am nationalist,but if some citizen of Western country love his country he is patriot.Why??? It is the same thing with Russia.
Приятно видеть, что вы оба говорите свободно, именно это мы и хотели видеть.❤️
As a Slovenian im amazed how much of Russian i can understand!
Excellent and as always intelligent explanation of the current Russian situation.Thanks for continuing your important work!!!
It reminds me of the US in 2003. I remember reading about people opposing the war in Iraq and they were called "Anti American" and traitors, even though the very idea of the Republic is that one should be able to question the governments actions. I think that wars and great crises very easily distort complex realities and create oversimplified truths (or lies)
Don't need to reach that far back
Good point, but slight difference. The invasion of Iraq did not lead to annexation of Iraqi territory long term, there were 12 UN Resolutions violated by dictator Saddam Hussein, over 2 billion dollars in oil for food corruption, and there was a coalition of 30 countries. Many American groups at that time were anti-American in structure and ideology and some of those were actively cheering for the deaths of Americans.
Yup we never found those WMDs either since they didn't exist. If you want a great history book that actually covers all of the lies the U.S. government has sold Americans for the past 120 years, check out the book "The Killing of Uncle Sam".
Ja sam SrBkinja, i uvek sam uz braću i sestre RUSE❤️🇷🇸 Mi smo ista DUŠA, ista genetika...
Как я обожаю ваш канал! Вы говорите про очень важные вещи так аккуратно и культурно.. Вы действительно очень расшираете мой кругозор.
Mnogo priče i mnogo komplikacije ni oko čega.
Jedno je biti turista i belosvetski putnik u Švajcarskoj,Nemačkoj,Austriji,Francuskoj, a sasvim drugo tamo živeti,raditi.
Svaka promena mesta življenja je čoveku romantična, romantizovana i traje kao zaljubljenost - oko 6 meseci.
Za poređenje je potrebno negde proživeti bar 10 godina.
Добро пожаловать!
Привет Юлия и Макс! Как классно послушать во всём этом хаосе всякой пропаганды, самостоятельно думающих молодых людей. Для меня это невероятное облегчение. Спасибо, что вы есть и что вы продолжаете работать и делать огромною и хорошую работу для России. Для меня нет ничего лучшего для страны, чем её граждане, которые в состоянии пользоваться здоровым, человеческим разумом. Приветствую вас из Германии!
hello dear Max and Julia, thanks for being there👋👋🤗🤗
Did anyone see an American or European on similar channel, trying to justify their personal position or position of their country when they attacked Serbia, or Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Libya, or Syria...? I haven't. Reminds me of Russian tennis players banned from Wimbledon, and none of the western players ever being banned based on their nationality or the politics of their country.
С помощью одного такого американца я и учил английский. Он высказывался, например, против войны в Ираке.
Странно, что для вас это в новинку))
You haven't looked.
I don't know where you live but I can guarantee you that for every of those wars there was strong opposition in the West but none of those who took to the streets to protest was put in jail one single day, unless of course one burned cars or broke windows in the process.
besides, the last war in Iraq is seen as a national shame by the vast majority of Americans and even Colin Powell in his book regrets what he did.
American never asked apologies After bombing so many countries. They Do It not for exporting democratico but for Givening revenues tò their military industries
Dear Max, Dear Yulia, thank you both for this excellent discussion and lesson. It was very well-structured, and made important clarifications and distinctions about different opinions and attitudes to the current situation. It was clearly emotional for both of you, and I admire your honesty. For me, you represent everything that is good about Russia - a wonderful country where I lived and worked for years. Sending you love from Ireland. С уважением. Филип Петрович.
Your comments sent me back to the Vietnam war days of my youth. I see many parallels. Albeit imperfect.
This war became increasingly unpopular as it developed. This was not a sudden invasion as such but Johnson accelerated it after the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
We were fed WW2 shows and documentaries quite often. A show called "The Big Picture" we'd watch as kids. We often felt we had to match that earlier generation.
A split between generations formed. "Love it or leave it" was a saying by those supporting the war. "Change it or lose it" replied anti-war people.
Some young men left the country to avoid the military draft. I myself had a high lottery number although the war was winding down by then. As well as the draft.
People who were from disadvantaged areas and backgrounds often were predominant in the front lines. Sounds like similar things are going on in Russia.
As an unrelated note. Conservative politicians used the war as a way to carve off the working class from their post-Depression New Deal progressive roots. This was largely successful.
Just a few random thoughts. Good thoughts to you both.
Governments see people as canon fodder to protect and expand their power.
Except there's no draft in Russia today.
Для меня, не смог бы критиковать ни одну страну с культурными людьми, у каждой страны есть своя плохие и хорошие моменты, потому что страна - это люди, это культуры, а не государство.
Yes, once more you're brilliant, concise, clear-sighted and so honest. you're so good you'll become lecturers at a high level one day. Thank you for this stunning video about patriotism. Yes, of course, one can LOVE his country and not agree with the government. I have five grown-up children, we all love our country France, but I can assure you we don't all agree with our government. We've had animated discussions lately, about the elections here. It's so important to be able to have different points of view. I wish you all the best and I'm sure there's a big potential in Russian young generations to build a better world, as Max says, and you're part of this hope.
O, Im so sad, here in Slovenia they closed Russian center of sience and culture... 😣 We, the people are mad, we love Russian!!!!!!!
Max and Yulia, you express beautifully the differences between healthy patriotism and blind trust in power, no matter how destructive that power is. The concept of a social contract is key to viewing how government should be seen: People are in positions of power to advance the whole of society, not their own narrow self-interests. My American president, Abraham Lincoln, 150 years ago, spoke of a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people". I think this best sums up the relationship between power and the society it is to serve.... I pray that you are recovering from your recent setbacks in health and circumstance and on the way toward a flourishing future.
A really interesting an engaging discussion. Not only is it relevant, but also its easier to listen and learn because the topic is actually interesting. Thank you both, I hope you both have a lovely day! :)
Bravo za sjanu artikulaciju aktelnih zbivanja u Rusiji.Divno je videti i čuti tako obrazovane mlade ljude.Nadam se da cete se lepo osecati u Srbiji do trenutka vaseg povratka u Rusiju u nekoj boljoj situaciji.Vasi casovi Ruskog jezika su super.Puno pozdrava.
Ситуација је одлична,само су људи неспремни за реалан живот.Да,између два рата,је боље.Сама Русија,богата,образовање одлично.За младе,паметне,земља огромних могућности.
"Умом Россию не понять...в Россию можно только верит" как написал знаменитый поэт Тютчев. Это стихотворение -вневременное, подходит к любому моменту её истории.
Critics these days are similarizing the soviet war and withdrawal from Afghanistan in 1989 to the war now in Ukraine. The first had led to the fall of the CCCP. Could this war lead to the fall of the Russian republic?
Thank you for the video. How are you handling the Serbian language? I’m fluent in Russian and Ukrainian, and can understand maybe 60% of Serbian.
hi Max and Julia,
you might get free education and health care but if you are not free to express yourself you feel trapped in a gilded cage from which you eventually want to escape.
In the end, you just do what your conscience tells you to do, no matter what the rest of the world is saying or telling you to do.
all the best to you two.
ciao
Привет Макс и Юла. Я из Грузии и часто использую ваш канал для изучения русского языка, потому что здесь есть поговорка: «ты должен знать язык своего врага». Я очень рад услышать вашу позицию по этому вопросу. Я надеюсь, что когда-нибудь у вас будет лучшее правительство, и вы сможете жить в своем родном городе без стыда и страха. Надеюсь, когда-нибудь мы добьемся успеха. Спасибо тебе за видео.
Looks like you dont understand the situation. Yes war is bad nobody should be pro war but in Russian situation, imagine NATO build their bases in Ukraine officialy, they ship nuclear weapons to UA which is not some conspiracy theory those are real stuff already talked about, so than Russia is surrounded from most sides and even Moscow is on missile range from UA. Than it would be game over for Russia. So yes concerns of russian military are on place. This doesnt mean they should invade another country but when diplomatic talks dont work it looks like there is no other way.
Putin himself is the best advocate for NATO, because Finland and Sweden are going to join the ranks thanks to this “special military operation".
The "pro-Putin" arguments were cherry picked. Easy to "debunk" some arguments when you simply select the weakest ones.
Strong "pro-Putin" (not necessarily pro-Putin but pro-status quo) are:
- US does not hide its intent to balkanise Russia, Yugoslavia style. This is clear if you care to read US main think tanks (RAND for example) and to follow the positions of US-backed organisation such as the World League for Freedom and Democracy (previously know as the Anti-Communist League during the Cold War).
- US has a double standard, it wants to balkanise and denuclearise the Russian Federation while keeping its own nuclear arsenal and even expanding its capabilities if we think on the recent AUKUS agreement and the F-35 expansion in Europe (nuclear capable).
- So for those who are claiming that Russia special op in Ukraine is illegal...Minsk II was signed not only by Ukraine (who claims it was forced to) but also from Europeans sponsors of the Agreement. The agreement was not respected at any time and Kiev's elite does not deny that, as they claim that the agreement was void from the start.
- Arguments that basically claim that Ukraine is trying to become more "democratic" are phony, Russian and Ukrainian structural issues are basically the same. No intent to become more "Western style democratic". Evidence: Poland, Turkey, Israel, Colombia and many others US strategic partners.
- Bottom line, both Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs are fleeing and stashing their fortunes in Dubai and elsewhere. Only low paid servicemen and civilians are suffering on both sides. US/Canada/UK have no intent to negotiate. They put fundamentalists in power just like they did (or allowed to happen) across middle East and North of Africa. We all know that Igor Kolomoisky (the Right Sector sponsor) is the one responsible for Zelensky's "democratic" election. Parliamentary and legal arguments in general cannot stand 2 minutes of sober analysis.
Russia, despite its flaws, should stand with Putin as the moment is critical, Putin's honeymoon with the West lasted 10 years or so and it is clear that there is no room for "coexistence". Russia must be fragmented and China as well, this is the only possible coexistence that US will allow. EU is the perfect model, many small countries ruled by bureaucrats and technocrats. No autonomous will as all strategic moves depend on US blessing. I live in Europe for 20 years now and I doubt that someone will explain how the US-sponsored Arab Spring was positive for Europe. EU in general, having economies such as Portugal and Greece using the same currency of Germany, Denmark and Netherlands is macroecomic suicide. This is not a struggle for or against Putin, this is a struggle against US and Washington Consensus system as a whole. For those who still feel that there is a positive outcome form the current situation with a regime change in Russia. They should take a really close look on Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq. Russian liberals dream of Sweden and Germany, they will get Libya and Syria instead (maybe Argentina if they are lucky).
Вы объяснили всё подробно , я из Ирана и когда я смотрела ваше видео, кода вы говорили свои определения, я считала это именно то , что происходит в моей стране и более того люди начинают судит о друг друге в этих случаях, они начинают воспринимать всё эмоционально а я думаю это не так . Они даже говорят если ты хочешь уйти из свой родины , ты какой то предатель как вы сказали и по причине этого я потеряла каких то друзей. Это вызывает много конфликтов между людьми, они хотят найти виновата. Мне пришлось уйти тоже и это была очень крутая тема для меня . Хотя бы сейчас я знаю в мире есть люди которые понимают эти концепции
Очень благодарна
George Orwell’s ‘Notes on Nationalism’ is as relevant at this juncture of European history as it was in 1945. He clearly sets out the difference between the ‘patriotism’ of the person who loves their country and its culture, and the grandiose aggression engendered through power hungry nationalism, under which facile descriptors of other nations as being ‘bad’ (or according to the current Russian leadership, ‘nazis’)are used to justify otherwise illegal/inhumane behaviour. Putin seems to have done a good job on conflating these two entirely different concepts.
Keep up the good work!
"Я люблю свою страну, но ненавижу госндарствою." Да, Я тоже на моя стране Велико Британия. Просто Я хочу мир! (извините, моя Русски язык ещё очень плохо.)
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Hello Max and Julia! Many young Russian people do not know the real background in Ukraine.Good thougts to you both !
Here in Sweden we have a saying (which I am certain exists in most countries) which is something like this in English - I love my country but hate the government.
Согласна с Вами и Юлей на 100%! Я, например, не поддерживаю нынешнюю администрацию своей страны, однако считаю себя патриотом и буду бороться за защиту своей страны. А с этой войной на Украине, поверьте, у меня сердце кровью обливается, когда я вижу, как убивают и украинцев, и русских. Будь то солдаты или гражданские лица. Я молюсь, чтобы это поскорее закончилось.❤❤❤
!!! 😳😲Наконец-то слухи о том, что Джим Моррисон жив, оказались правдой...и, теперь он говорит по-русски.
Honestly, I've come to the point where I support our government in almost nothing they do. Our government has spent so much money and lives in a pointless war for influence and resources, under the guise of removing some vague national threat. Many civilian casualties in our unjust invasion of a sovereign nation who has done us no harm. So while I love my homeland, I do not support the government and owe it nothing. Greetings from America, Max and Julia. I hope Serbia is treating you well. :)
Fun fact: those guys in the vid were blaming the Russian govt, and ranting about their patriotic feelings being hurt, but most of the commentators started to bash Biden and Bush for some reason, though they all agreed with the speakers.
Lol Serbia treating all people well...
American here. I don’t feel like I “owe” my country anything. I pay taxes because that’s the deal (social contract). Everything else I give is because I WANT to, not because I feel indebted to the country. Also interesting to hear that culturally (for some), Russians have always had a “strong man” as a leader, and as a result , some Russians look to the leader as though they’re like a monarch or czar… someone to whom they they owe their fealty. To me. The U.S. president is just a man (or in the future… a woman), who is essentially my employee. He works for the American people… not the other way around. Sadly that viewpoint has changed in recent years as more conservatives seem to have less of a problem with authoritarian leaders, so we’ll see what direction America goes in the future. Once you lose your democracy/freedom, it’s hard to get it back.
You think tha the president of the United States is your employee? LOL, you're so wrong. They are employees to the real powerful. USA is not a democracy, it's a corporatocracy since they killed Kennedy. Sorry, but that's the truth.
Вы обсуждаете очень сложный вопрос. Лично у меня схожая дилемма, как у вас. Я коренной американец и все мои предки переселились в Америку много поколений назад, но я против войны в Украине и вообще против внешней политики Соединённых Штатов. Нынешная война в Украине в самом деле началась не в феврале 2022 года, а в 2014 году, когда произошёл государственный поворот в Киеве, при котором свергли демократически выбранного президента Украины. В самом деле, война в Украине не между Россией и Украиной. Эта ведь война США против России, и Украина, к сожалению, является инструментом. Штаты дают деньги и Украина даёт солдат. Цель этой войны -- подчинить Россию так называемому всемирному порядку управляемому определённой элитой, особенно в США. Владимира Путина необходимо понимать в контексте истории России. Я готов обсуждать этот вопрос дальше, если это вам интересно.
Макс и Юля наши герои!!!✊
Hi Max, I hate patriotism, racism, and war. I still do love the Russian people and want the sanctions to stop. They are an act of war as well. Why sanction Russia and not the US?? They have repeatedly bombarded innocent children in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Belgrad. These innocent children have died whist sleeping in their homes and nobody hates the Americans for it. I am not suggesting here that we should hate them at all. We should be friends with them and teach them to be more pacific and less greedy but then why hate the Russian people???? There is a lot of hatred against Russians here in England now and I have had enough of this!! this is just hypocrisy. Stop the Russian oligarchs?? and what about the Western Mafia and the US oligarchic corporations???Only Turkey seems to be really diplomatic and trying to build bridges and solve problems. Let's all support Russia, its simple people, our fellow human beings.
In this harsh time for Russia, you are talking about bad things. You should be supporting your country. I'm from Serbia and we will always support Russia. We do also have some people like you. You don't understand that this war isn't about that what said in TV, it's about future of Russia. Putin is not great, far from it. But you don't have alternative. Go to USA and you'll see how Russia is great. What do you trying to accomplish with this. YOu are not real and objective. Be normal and patriot. If you love your country, don't do this. This is not the time for this.
По-моему "где родился, там и пригодился" поговорка неплохая, она выражает что-то вроде что каждый может найти своё место на родине при желании. Просто не нужно воспринимать её как аксиому, в ответ на неё можно сказать, например, что узнавание других стран расширяет твоё сознание, делает более терпимым ко многим вещам и в каком-то смысле образованным.
Great video, I’ve been struggling with how to articulate my support for the Ukraine, Zelensky, AND Russia. The fact is I will always love and support Russia in as much as it resembles the West 🇺🇦🇺🇦
The problem is you don't criticize the imperialist U.S government and you only criticize your own government. This makes you suspicious , actually. You are against the war you say, but the war didn't start this year, it started in 2014 with the coup and the attack against Donbas. Which country didn't implement the Minsk agreement, was it Russia or Ukraine ? You simply ignore all that ,which strange tbh.
typical case of whataboutism. you simply shift the focus of the discussion to another subject.
one day Russia started pelting rockets to Kiev, and that's a fact. if it had been Ukraine bombarding Moscow we would be condemning Zelenski, that's how logic in the majority of human beings works.
The video is about what happens in Russia. If you want to do the same with the USA, go for it.
We all want the Russia that you describe...many wanted it for hundreds of years but the culture of control and even terror is deeply engrained. The fight between Enlightenment and 'pure' Russian tradition of strong man/iron fist has never changed...and the iron fist has always won. That is why you are in Serbia and found it amazing to watch a demonstartion with few police in Belgrade. We see the worst of the culture of propaganda, brutality and lies again now. Hopefully this will be the last time and when this evil madness is over all that is good in Russia can come to the fore and a democratic enlightened country will emerge where people will not have to leave in order to breathe and speak. A great video....Stay safe and every success to both of you in Serbia.
I readed untill democratic
What do the "patriots" in the Kremlin fear and despise most of all? Their own people, of course. This is the bitterest irony of all, and it's what makes them precisely the type of patriots Dr Johnson had in mind. (and apologies for writing in English, но мой русский ещё очень плохой 🙏)
Странно, что молодые люди, всегда считают что больше знают чем опытные люди ,которые прожили всё .Будете понять через 30 лет. Я Серб,и знал с 1991.года ,что будет сегодня.Третья богатства мира лежит
в России.Читайте о истории русского,сербского народа,и будет Вам понятно что совсем неважно либо Путин президент ,либо кто-то.За рубежом нельзя ,никому ,никогда говорит против своей стране,правительства. Это неприлично, может быть и опасно.К сожалению,уже 100 лет назад,часто так бывает у наших народов .Удачи Вам,и всего доброго.
Я с этими людьми выучила русский язык: ruclips.net/video/SMcSCkF8ShY/видео.html
Моя учительница русского языка была дворянкой. В то время за границей не было других русских, кроме "белых русских". Она часто рассказывала мне о кладбище Сент-Женевьев-де-Буа в Париже, говоря, что там похоронена память о России. Однако она вовсе не была против СССР, потому что родилась во Франции, в Париже. Его отец был из первого поколения. Он бежал от Революции в 1917 году. Она была переводчиком для советских делегаций, и я думаю, что многие из них действительно пытались понять новый режим и все еще надеялись, что когда-нибудь смогут вернуться в Россию. Меня всегда очень интересовали истории "белых русских", потому что я знала их лично. И именно они очень вдохновили меня поехать в Россию, как будто это была мечта, которую я осуществила вместо них ...Иногда русских удивляет то, что я знаю так много русских сказок, что я знаю наизусть много стихов (заучивание русских стихов наизусть очень помогает в фонетике и восприятии ритма языка, надсегментных ударений, связанных со смыслами предложений), так что это то, что позволило мне в 90-е годы белые русские легко находили темы для бесед с русскими. "Белые" русские передавали русский язык так, как они учили его своим внукам. И поскольку они, конечно, были очень православными, в какой-то момент пришлось выучить некоторые элементы старославянского языка. Благодаря им я получила великолепный опыт знакомства с Россией как во Франции, так и в Москве! Сегодня их потомки, вероятно, чувствуют себя скорее французами, чем русскими, а постоянный секретарь Французской академии сама является потомком русской дворянской семьи из Грузии (Элен Каррер д’Анкосс: ruclips.net/video/1dFapNUNxDY/видео.html).Эмиграция первой волны оказала глубокое влияние на французскую литературу и искусство того времени. Некоторые даже говорят, что она спасла французскую литературу, которая начинала умирать сама по себе...
Jeste li naučili Srpski jezik? Vrlo je prosto. Ja sam ucio ruski jezik u skoli oko 12 godina ukupno. 🙂 Velcome to our proud Serbia ❤❤❤
Title from ''Guardian'' from couple of days ago: "US won’t rule out military action if China establishes base in Solomon Islands". Now, people that have brain, should try to use it. (In addition, Solomon islands are almost 2 thousand km far from closest point of US ally Australia).
the US haven't yet bombarded Honiara. A title in a newspaper is just a title. Russia attacking Kiev is a fact, not a newspaper title.
besides, there are not US or NATO bases in Ukraine.
I have only one comment. Poor people, poor young souls that have to cope with war, with embargo of the west (in this case). I had to deal with it when my country was bombed by nato (polititians) in 1999, i was a student, a youngster with no apparent future... Wish you all a lot of luck, endurancy and strength no matter what side life has put you on.
You feel like you feel and I don't want to change your mind, I like that you love your country regardless of who is in power.
I want to say just one thing, here in Serbia we have a part of society that literally hates this country, its history and culture, don't let your children become like that, because from love to hatred is few steps and generations. Поздрав
Full respect and support for you both! Good luck.
A lot of it comes down to an all-or-nothing mentality. Many of the greater conversations lack nuance. That is why I appreciate the quality of your dialogs, and I'm able to understand more and more. Thank you both. I had a month-long trip to Russia which was obviously canceled. Hopefully soon I can visit again
Ако останете у Србији, Србија ће добити двоје младих и паметних људи. Што је фантастично. Срећно у даљем раду
Nadam se da će ostati, jer neće u ovim okolnostima naći bolje podneblje
Объяснение не позволит людям, которые не понимают, понять. Тот, кто хочет понять и думает, может понят.
Sovereignty passes from nation to nation on account of injustice and insolence and wealth. Like the magistrate of the people, so are his officials; and like the ruler of the city, so are all its inhabitants.
You guys are the best. Seriously, I invite you to Washington, D.C. I will sponsor you and give you a place to stay. I'm not kidding.
привет дорогие... явно я против режима Путина...но думаю что те которые владеют властью в Украине не способны а сделали шаги к войне...ржвали ядерная договора и так открыли пути к войне..по моему любой правительства России сделать то же...эта война превратился мало по малу война между Россией и НАТО...заподные это хотели с самого начала
privet!.....I just saw now your channel, i mne ocen6 nravilsR....sorry for my english, and for bad use of keyboard...posto ne zelite da pricate ruski u beogradu, da bi ste naucili srpski, ja cu pisati na srpskom.....ja sam arhitekta, ali moj hobi su jezici...volim da proucavam i analiziram reci i njihovo poreklo...i veoma mi je zanimljivo da vidim strance koji pokusavaju da uce srpski....iako vi kao rusi niste potpuno stranci u smislu jezika....zivim u beogradu, ako ste raspolozeni da popijemo kafu, da vas uputim u sve skrivene lepote beograda, stojim vam na raspolaganju....
Вы молодцы! Приветствую из Триеста!
I think lately of you two, I hope you are fine. Its not along ago when you struggale with covid and now smt more horriable. Wish you peace and love 🌹☀️🍀
I love peace loving Russians, it’s disturbing that one man wants to cause so much unnecessary destruction in a time when peaceful coexistence can be established.
While I fully agree about the fact that there are millions of peace loving Russians like Max and Julia I think it's a simplification to look at this as just Putin's war. If you watch the TV programs coming out of the Propaganda system in Russia, the speakers are all equally warped. They aren't being held at gunpoint to discuss wiping out Europe with nukes (there have been several sickening videos just this past week of talk show hosts almost gleefully presenting scenarios).
When you read about Bucha and the truly sick behavior of murdering children and civilians who pose zero threat you can't say that those are normal soldiers and you can't say it's simply war.
As an American I know that we have had awful wars that I protested and always hated but I can also say that even in the worst of it, the plan for soldiers and the actions of soldiers were not as sick and just straight evil as what is happening.
I have no idea how and what happened but it's bigger than Putin. With the "sick" portion of the Russian population it is really bad and it's definitely not just one man and I think the world really needs to grasp this and try and figure out what to do.
Снова дорогие Представители Русской Культуры! 👍
Да, вы несомненно правы во всём! К сожалению в наших мозгах часто (обычно) работают стереотипные навыки мышления! Во время военных фронтов, ещё легче попасть в сеть 🕸️!
У меня лишь один момент, о чём колебаться: о роли России в Международном сегодняшнего и будущего сценарии.... Конечно слово - экспертам, к тому стоило/стоит ли начинать войну, нельзя было иначе?... Не знаю!.... Конечно желательно, что всё Страны и Державы во всём мире заботились только лишь о мире, сотрудничестве и всеобщем благополучии!... (Но......)
Спасибо вам. Очень интересно. 晚安! 🌙
Problem is that Putin is not Russia. And when people say "Russia is doing something" Russia is just a concept. People do things, concepts don't.
If someone says "you are not patriot" they just try to manipulate you
Ikr, true patriotism would be banding together and kicking out that ape Putin who robs the people, takes away their rights and ruins the economy.
@@antidote234 defend his people from a threat that doesn't exist, NATO have made it clear they have no intention of attacking Russia under any circumstances unless attacked first.
@@snipergirl3176 unfortunately their actions in past 30 years speak otherwise
Hello max and Julia ♥️
Brilliant video - it would be wonderful if people from every country in the world - regardless of where they were born - watch it & understand the simple message. Bolshoi spasibo.
could you tell us, some day, how the conscription works for service in the army. what is the difference between "прзыв" и "контракт" is it true that being drafted is for two years, and signing a contract can be for one year only, with more money? I hear of young Russian boys wishing (rightfully) to be exempted. what are the conditions?
It is a difficult and complicated question. Even when you think of people, there are so many characters even in a small country let alone a country of 140+ mil people, some of whom you can not even see eye to eye with. The only thing that helps me when I think about such topics is trying to remind myself those however many good people I come across makes it worth to patiently bear all the disappointing lot.
Great video Max ❤️❤️❤️
Ви очен умние људи.
Спасибо вам что ви наши гости.
Политика ето мутни дела.
Руссија вечнаја, и Руссија ето особенаја цивилизација.
Политики приходит и одходит а Руссија вечнаја.
Од душе ❤️ љубов к Руссие
Hey, Thanks for beautiful video. Are you filming this in russia ..?
Actully you two are in right cantry.Serb's Take Care abut White side Russia after red army Took guverment in Moscow only becouse we love Rusian's as people and we give them new life in Vojvodina as Our Brothers...but in Serbia thay Are Rusini and you Are Rusi which Is Rusian's... imperator Romanov Help us durring WW1.
i love russia and russians
People like sheep hate Russia and love Ukraine. I love peace and hate war. Russia is the aggressor but the question is more complex as Ukrainian nationalism and racism has not helped at all. I remember here those Ukrainians who refused to talk Russian. Are you nationalists happy now??? Let's all just stay neutral and say no to war. I cry a lot and I am a man. I am sad for the Ukrainian people and for the Russian soldiers who were forced to the front line.
Правительство не сушествует чтобы исполнять волю народа, сушествует чтобы исполнять волю Банкстеров. У нас есть грозная опасность, которая называет себя мировым порядком, основанным на правилах (rules based world order). Чтобы победить эту угрозу, нам нужно найти то, что дает им власть над нами и создать сети взаимной независимости (mutual independence networks).
Dear Max and Julia, first of all, welcome to Serbia, you are more than welcome here. Like all the other Slavic brothers. I just wanted to point out Serbs opinion about all of this situation, I think majority of Serbs. We are no doubt for Russia, and we know exactly why. Because we are in between west and east, and we have experienced both, we had contact with both cultures. Because of that we will always be for our Russian brothers, because west doesn't want to assimilate with other cultures, they are dictators, they want from you to leave everything you stood for, and to become their atheistic slaves. I am also sure that majority of US people for example are also against their liberal rethoric. We want to stay free, to have normal families and to learn them true values. We do not want accept as they say new reality. That is all about, and this war, its not against our Ukranian brothers, Ukraine is heart of all Slavs. Serbs do not hate anyone ( except Croats :), just kidding, they are our lost brothers ). Welcome to Serbia feel free here.
Все более чем правильно сказано! Спасибо, что способствуете пониманию этих основополагающих различий среди русскоговорящих/изучающих русский людей!
Люди ищут простые ответы. Конечно, вы можете поддерживать страну, её народ, правительство, отдельных политиков, войну - что угодно, самостоятельно. Эта идиотская война должна быть немедленно прекращена, и мы сможем жить дальше, не опасаясь постоянно своего будущего.
eng 》rus 》srb.
Tax - Налог - Порез
Слово "Налог" по сербски- это форма запроса, не как налог (tax) на русском языке.
Ордер на арест.
Налог за хапшење.
Платежное поручение.
Налог за плаћање.
Макс, Юля, вы молодцы!
Привет Макс&Июлия!
Это последний ваш видео или что-то пропускала?.... Всё-таки, в данный момент не могу проверять, я занята другим (那就是汉语)... Но раз прошло много времени от той поры, когда изучала Русский, сейчас часто сталкиваюсь с одинаковым сомнением, то есть: в глаголах типа -ывать, -ивать , всё возникает тот же самый вопрос: через ы или и? Решила сейчас обратиться данным вопросом к надлежащему Учителю (😁): нету да правила, чтобы это сразу определить? Только остаётся, как сейчас, тратит несколько минут искать данный глагол и проверить?
Сознаюсь, что это второстепенный вопрос, но первоочередные (!) на минутку давай оставим в сторону!
☺️ Всего хорошего!
A friend of mine from Russia told me that she knows a lot of people from Russia who do not feel uneasy about Putin and everything that has happened in the last 2 months. Their explanation is that Putin is fighting for Russia not to disappear and poverty and sanctions do not affect them because "they have been poor all their lives, the continuation of such a life is not unusual for them." How to fight against such attitudes?
you simply don't give up and wait for better times which sooner or later will come, usually when you least expect them.
СПАСИБО БОЛЬШОЕ, МАХ
Интересантна тема.
Да се мало одмакнемо од данашњице. Да ли бе се у Другом Светском рату борио
- за Стаљина или
- за Русију или
- не би се хтио борити?
Занимљиво питање. Али нема ту правог одговора, јер у политици и рата нема јасне поделе на добро и зло, него је (скоро) увек измешано. Па и добри људи буду навучени на зло у злим временима...
love you boths to much. So bistra gavarite, I need to watch again! I love Russia and Ucrania! The war does not change it!
Привет и спасибо для этого видео!
Ну это напоминаeт мне на Германии во время второй мировой войны. Многие люди, которые тогда были официальные враги Третьего Рейха, сегодня герои в Германии. Они любили Германию и немецкую культуру и боролись против правидельства Гитлера.
К сожалению но я надеялась, что человечество может учить. Но это ни так. Самая пропаганда - только разные буквы....
In Serbia easy you can get Visa
Ваше положение трудное, но вы правы. Я поддерживаю вас. Спасибо.
любить Россию но не подержать власти, ага, кажется это красивая идея, но если власти думал как вы, больше Россия не будет существовать! политика, это не так просто!
Жизнь в разных странах даёт более широкое представление о мире в целом.