That's AWESOME Don. I have a question for you if you don't mind?. 1) why are some engines Green and some Silver?. 2) being those are 2 stroke, with a bus/ coach RV application say an older GM with regular maintenance, Hwy driving, what sort of mileage can be expected from one. Recently I've been looking into a bus conversion for semi/ full retirement travel. I found a nice coach 4 speed manual with 56k since last rebuild, what sort of reliability are 2 stroke compared to 4 strokes?. Kind regards Eric Dee
@@thevacuumtubejunky9774 well Detroit was bought by Roger Penske so maybe when he took over that might be why . For reliability well 2 strokes have less moving parts so i would think in a diesel it doesn't make a difference! Not like a gas engine
@@clinteastwood9115 : Thank you for your reply Mr. Cooper, that makes perfect sense. I heard that the four strokes produce better and torque at lower rpm's which may be better in the long run but, yet I understand that the Detroit is a brute when it comes to diesel engines. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Kind regards, Eric Dee.
It is a 2-stroke uniflow engine. The valves in the cylinder heads are all exhaust valves. The piston uncovers ports in the cylinder walls when it is near the bottom and that is for intake. The intake ducts have to be pressurized in order for the engine to run, hence the supercharger. Turbos feed the supercharger for extra power as the engine speed increases. All the EMD train locomotives use massive V12 and V16 2-stroke diesels. GE locos use 4-stroke engines.
the problem with that is you need to keep them wound tight all the time. the have no power at lower RPM's so you are on the floor with them all the time. double if not more then other diesels. hence the whole screaming jimmy,
and that one *REALLY* likes to hunt with that itty-bitty flywheel! Makes it tough to set the anti-surge screw with that little mass to carry it through.😉
They got a fairly smooth idle set after all but was worrying a bit about the engine temp with no coolant circulating. Nice start up. I don't do this channel any more.
I've never seen a twin turbo arrangement like that on a 53 series. Even the exhaust manifolds look unusual, someone had been rummaging through the parts lists when they built that one.
my first tractor had a 8v92ta silver 475 hp in it kw cabover, had a 24 volt starter. I didn't know what a beast it was till i got my next truck had a 400 cummins.
I love the Detroit but to be fair a 400 Cummins is called that because it has 400hp an extra 75hp of the Detroit is very noticeable when talking about diesels because the torque also increases.
@halor101 Hey! That engine came with a single top mounted 6v53T turbo, but since we are putting it in a 1 ton truck we wanted to get as much overhead room as possible. The turbos we put on it are dual 353T silver turbos. I am no mechanic, but Im thinking at least the cylinder kits will have to be turbo kits and the timing may have to be changed from advanced to normal or vice versa, but as I said, Im not 100% sure of the changes needed.
I used to work on the twin turbo setups in boats . They weren't common , and they usually stuffed them in , making them difficult to service . They also leaked so much oil you had better make sure it had some in it . They screamed sweetly though .
I worked on these for two years in the Marine Corps they were on the lav 25 really all the variants really we got 300 horsepower out of our recovery vehicle when they're rated at 275 we did it four times and every time they took the motor from us
The info plate had this engine rated @ 300 hp with the factory turbo and injector size setup. The twin turbo setup may have bought us a few extra hp and the bigger injectors certainly have but no official dyno has been run on it yet. We expect 325 - 350 hp and somewhere in the 800ish ft./lb of torque. If we do dyno it, I will make sure to video it and show the results.
My twins (marine in a 45 ft sport fisher) are rated 400HP and 800 foot pounds of torque, pretty insane. I got the stock twin turbos rebuilt. Believe they are Garrett R8926100 turbos and this setup uses N9830 injectors
?? What are you even talking about? It may be silver in color, but it's still a sleeved cast iron block and heads (plus the block was filled with water when they started it)
@@MotormasterK100 sometimes even if you've got everything perfect you've got to give those baby girls a shot of ether they normally think it's yummy and they'll wake up and say howdy according to this Texas girl!!!!
In this case, and for all two stroke Detroit Diesels, the blower is required for the engine to run. The blower is there for exhaust gas scavenging. Without it the engine would smother itself.
It seems like a lot of diesel people don't care if they are enveloped by a big cloud of smoke once in a while. Getting them running " right" is intriguing to a lot of people...and once warmed up, way less smoke.
@MotormasterK100 this gives a whole new meaning to the term first start. you being no mechanic youve done an amazing job. ive found vintage crate engines. and want to grab a few for various projects
jm15 yes thank you although I know this I was just trying to point a different avenue... but usually assembly lube burns blue like oil ... but I was just trying to go a different route
It was largely phased out and replaced by the 4 stroke 8.2 Detroit for consumer use somewhere in the late 80's to very early 90's. There are some (and potentially still are being produced) electronic DDEC versions that the military uses. Last time I checked, the DDEC turbo aftercooled version was punching about 400hp. To say the least, that is a large amount of HP per cubic inch all things considered.
MotormasterK100 isn't it funny how that engine was phased out 25 years ago because it was too noisy and didn't make enough power under boost, but now we wax nostalgically about it?
Larz Here is something to think about. You know there as a whole there are a lot more accidents involving big rigs and cars. Personally I think it's because modern rigs are often too quiet. But when people heard the screaming detroit coming, they heard it well and got the hell out of the way. It is a unique engine.
@Unlimited3406 I think they will sound great on this thing. The exhaust will be run down the sides of the truck like an old hot rod through six inch straits.
I have a serious question as a way to boost low end torque with detroits. Could one drill holes in the 4 air box covers of a 6v53 put reed valves in the holes and run boost through that instead through the tiny blower bypass ? Along with a properly sized compound turbo setup so that you don't need a VGT (some say they wont work for detroits) and you can flatten out their power curve . After startup I was looking to diconnect the blower by instead turning it with a AC clutch pully. I'm working on ways to rid detroits of needing blowers other than for startup because the blowers can actually eat up quite a bit of HP (40-70) and the bypass only frees up about 7.
Well... you could look at a complicated system like the railroad locomotive detroits used, a gear driven turbo with an overrunning clutch. The 567, 645 and 710's all used that system. I personally have never seen one, so I don't know what all is involved with it. You're probably going to need more than an AC clutch to run that blower. Mercedes C32 ad E55's used an electric clutch on their AMG cars for their blowers, but if the motor was over 2500 rpm and you nailed it, the blower wouldn't engage because it would either fry the clutch, break the belt, or take the shaft off the end of the blower. They limited it to operate from a low dig. I don't know how much air a paxton or vortech supercharger moved at low speeds but it might be worth looking into.
Yes the DV550 was one of International's better ideal (much like GM with the 5.7 Olds Diesel). The took the 549 gas engine and made a Diesel out of it. You'll notice it was not in production for very long.
Actually, They did use these engines in the late 70's to mid 80's Blue Bird All Americans. They had the non turbo version for the AAFE (All American Front Engine), The AARE, (All American Rear Engine) you had the turbo option. You could also get them with Cat 3208's, Cummins 555 V8's as well.
+blackericdenice The camshaft opens and closes exhaust valves. No intake valves like you would find on a 4 stroke, instead it has scavaging ports which are located at the bottom of each cylinder. The engine block is unique in it's construction having air galleys as well as water galleys. Very unique engine in it's design and operation
I was in the GM spare parts store here in Australia many years ago and a bloke came in and said his truck with a 8v92 was using or leaking 20lt. or 5 gallons of oil per day. I thought mine was bad at 2lt per day. haha
do you happen to have the parts list for these 6v53 models, I’m guessing this one is around 300hp and they’re nasty, can’t find info on these specs anywhere, specially the military spec ones which are nuts
There are no intake valves.Ever time the piston comes to the top it fires.On a 4 stroke ever other time it comes up.Only 2 strokes of the piston per cycle.One up and one down on a 2 stroke.On a 4 stroke there are 4 movements.2 up and 2 down total to complete a single Full cycle.
The "Silver" Detroit Diesels were the apex of the 2 stroke mechanically controlled engines. There were numerous upgrades to these engines over their "green" Detroits before them. Detroit Diesel learned from some of the weaknesses that the green 92's had and beefed up the blocks and some of the interior channels, which were one of the early 92's biggest weaknesses. The 53 silver series was released a couple of years after the 92 silvers hit the market and it shared many of the "silver" upgrades. Some of the most notable upgrades are the addition of a bypass blower, which reduces parasitic hp drain from the required blower. Cross head pistons. After cooling was also an addition to the Silver lineup. Put quite simply, the silver versions of the 53, 71 and 92 series were available in higher horsepower ratings and were designed for longer life than their green predecessors. The silver 53 is able to reliably produce slightly over 1 hp per cubic inch, which is quite impressive for the relative small displacement. This one is built at around 350hp. Not too shabby for 318 cubic inches. The US military still uses this engine to this day with electronic controls. Paired with that AND intercooling AND After cooling they are rated up to 400 hp! That is the point where you start probably reducing longevity though.
@Red Billy Looks like the output was/is 445ft lbs @ 1500rpm. EDIT: Looks like the initial figure that I quoted was for a non-turbo engine. The turbo engine seems to put out between 750-800ft lbs.
@@crazyfvck WIthout injector modifications, the TURBO (single turbo, mind you) 6v53 made 300-hp, and 750-ft/lbs of torque. Change configuration from one BIG turbo to two smaller turbos, up the injector size, and it is feasible to approach 400-hp and 800-850 ft-lbs of torque... BUT...all this begs...WHY? When you can go to ANY junkyard, and buy an inline Dodge Cummins 5.9L that makes anywhere (depending on year and configuation) from 240-hp/450-torque to 350-hp/650-torque! OR, for simplicity, bullet-proof 1-million mile motors...the International DT466 will give you 300-hp 800-ft-lbs torque with less-weight, cheap parts, simple to work on, and parts EVERYWHERE!
Can anyone tell me what that small thing is under the left hand bank that runs off the fan belt with the idler pully? Is it part of the cooling system? Thanks.
***** No. The waste is running an engine past 6500 RPM in a street vehicle, Einstein! But....you go ahead & play roulette with your little toy, we know who will lose....YOU! You not u. Get some education before you spout off & look like a fool.
@@kwaichangcaine8234 Hi. Sorry for the late response. This one came from a government auction. It was still in the original crate. They pop up every now and then, but military surplus would be a good start.
ThePaulv12 , it has the provisions for the aftercooler like the 92 silvers, but we don't have one on it currently. We may add it or run an intercooler style instead. Just depends on where the numbers are and what I ultimately install it in. Thanks!
How long can u run it with no coolant? What is the round structure on top of the valve cover? If you had the room/time would you install intercooler, or perhaps that doesn’t matter so much with 2 stroke. Awesome sounding engine btw
It has water in it, just not any circulating. We wouldn't run it for long, and would use temp sensors to monitor various spots. The round part that says "Silver 53" is a breather. This block (to the best of my memory) has the provisions for an aftercooler. Like the larger brother series, the aftercooler goes below the blower on "top" of the airbox. Thanks for the interest!
It does have a roots style blower. It sits between the heads on top of the motor, normally below where a single turbo would have been in this application.
To me it is more about personal preference. The 2 stroke power band is more reliant on constant higher rpms. Detroit Diesel 2 cycles do not like to be lugged.
The later DD 2 strokes have bypass blowers and 1 or 2 turbo's. This in effect widens the powerband to similar to 4 stroke Diesels which are fairly narrow (1300-1800 RPM).
Tom Christman , I wouldn't risk it either, those liner seals melt very easily on all wet liner engines and the next thing you know is the sump is full of water, crazy thing to do after all the work you've just put into it and then having to do it all again.
ah yes the youtube algorithm has brough us back together friends, sit down and let us chat around the camp fire while listening to this beauty run!
😮
I use to work on the Detroit assembly line and make these!
That's AWESOME Don. I have a question for you if you don't mind?. 1) why are some engines Green and some Silver?.
2) being those are 2 stroke, with a bus/ coach RV application say an older GM with regular maintenance, Hwy driving, what sort of mileage can be expected from one.
Recently I've been looking into a bus conversion for semi/ full retirement travel. I found a nice coach 4 speed manual with 56k since last rebuild, what sort of reliability are 2 stroke compared to 4 strokes?.
Kind regards Eric Dee
@@thevacuumtubejunky9774 well Detroit was bought by Roger Penske so maybe when he took over that might be why . For reliability well 2 strokes have less moving parts so i would think in a diesel it doesn't make a difference! Not like a gas engine
@@clinteastwood9115 : Thank you for your reply Mr. Cooper, that makes perfect sense. I heard that the four strokes produce better and torque at lower rpm's which may be better in the long run but, yet I understand that the Detroit is a brute when it comes to diesel engines.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Kind regards, Eric Dee.
well thank you sir
@Richard Skipper 6v53 = 6cyl @ 53ci each cyl. = 318 ci
that thing is burning pretty damn clean with that twin turbo setup.
It is a 2-stroke uniflow engine. The valves in the cylinder heads are all exhaust valves. The piston uncovers ports in the cylinder walls when it is near the bottom and that is for intake. The intake ducts have to be pressurized in order for the engine to run, hence the supercharger. Turbos feed the supercharger for extra power as the engine speed increases. All the EMD train locomotives use massive V12 and V16 2-stroke diesels. GE locos use 4-stroke engines.
amazing how responsive the 2 strokes are...like 0 hesitation...
Damian DeLapp no flywheel that’s why it doesn’t want to idle
Has a flywheel, need it for the starter
I’m wrong it ain’t starting w no flywheel I meant clutch assy, parasitic drag from accessories etc. but yeh gotta have a flywheel
the problem with that is you need to keep them wound tight all the time. the have no power at lower RPM's so you are on the floor with them all the time. double if not more then other diesels. hence the whole screaming jimmy,
This due to it being a totally mechanical engine...
Electronics get in the way of responsiveness
Nothing like a Detroit hunting on Idle.
Love that about the ole 2 stroke Detroits on cold starts they hunt for idle like a top fuel car
the modern diesels only wish they had a lope tune like that
or leaking oil.
and that one *REALLY* likes to hunt with that itty-bitty flywheel! Makes it tough to set the anti-surge screw with that little mass to carry it through.😉
The hunt is from a poor tune. And they only leak oil if assembled by a knuckle dragger. And the only silver detroit from the factory was a 92 series.
They got a fairly smooth idle set after all but was worrying a bit about the engine temp with no coolant circulating. Nice start up. I don't do this channel any more.
With no load, they didn’t generate much heat.
@@billmoran3812 'much'!
It would take roughly 15 minutes to get it up to temp doing that
Makes your eyes water, man I'm envious...
I've never seen a twin turbo arrangement like that on a 53 series. Even the exhaust manifolds look unusual, someone had been rummaging through the parts lists when they built that one.
Best sound track of 2015
Jacob Funk Thanks!
my first tractor had a 8v92ta silver 475 hp in it kw cabover, had a 24 volt starter. I didn't know what a beast it was till i got my next truck had a 400 cummins.
I love the Detroit but to be fair a 400 Cummins is called that because it has 400hp an extra 75hp of the Detroit is very noticeable when talking about diesels because the torque also increases.
i had the same in new zealand in the early 80's with a 14 speed spicer. loved that truck.
@@terryrack2534 Classic NZ 8V92TA trucking
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@@mtl-ss1538 awesome
We used two of these on U.S. Coast Guard 44 foot Motor Life Boats with a steel hull.
The Detroit will always be my favorite diesel engine! Especially the v's! That sound says it all!
Detroit Diesel engines are like the Harley Davidson s of ol'. They don't leak oil. They just leave their mark.
I used to change these engines in the Army, in the M730 Chap-Missile launching stations. very powerful 2 stroke engine.
@M Ishaq the Allison transmission we ran used 10.40. We ran 40 grade in engine as well. 30-40 in summer and 15-40 summer. God bless the 2 stroke.
It sounds like they were trying to turn a 24V starter with 12v
@halor101 Hey! That engine came with a single top mounted 6v53T turbo, but since we are putting it in a 1 ton truck we wanted to get as much overhead room as possible. The turbos we put on it are dual 353T silver turbos. I am no mechanic, but Im thinking at least the cylinder kits will have to be turbo kits and the timing may have to be changed from advanced to normal or vice versa, but as I said, Im not 100% sure of the changes needed.
AWE them little bitty turbos are so cute!!!!!!!!
I used to work on the twin turbo setups in boats . They weren't common , and they usually stuffed them in , making them difficult to service . They also leaked so much oil you had better make sure it had some in it . They screamed sweetly though .
My question is where do we find the turbos these days ... I have two of these engines and all four turbos are done
@@BigJohnBatesuse gm-8 turbos from a 6.5 detroit i had one on my 6.2 and it delivered 15psi of boost on the stock fueling it got up and WENT!! 😂
I worked on these for two years in the Marine Corps they were on the lav 25 really all the variants really we got 300 horsepower out of our recovery vehicle when they're rated at 275 we did it four times and every time they took the motor from us
This unit is factory governed at 2800, but it is actually running about 3k at max.
I love the sound of a Detroit Diesel when its idling
the turbo makes it sound even better. thats something to find a brand new engine like that
I could fall asleep to that noise, I will have one someday
Use to love hearing these run near red line in the test booth while i was in AIT in 82
The info plate had this engine rated @ 300 hp with the factory turbo and injector size setup. The twin turbo setup may have bought us a few extra hp and the bigger injectors certainly have but no official dyno has been run on it yet. We expect 325 - 350 hp and somewhere in the 800ish ft./lb of torque. If we do dyno it, I will make sure to video it and show the results.
MotormasterK100 what turbos did you use?
@@jeffdavis110 Silver 3-53 turbos. Eventually, depending on a few factors, that may change to a larger size (and a complimenting larger injector).
My twins (marine in a 45 ft sport fisher) are rated 400HP and 800 foot pounds of torque, pretty insane. I got the stock twin turbos rebuilt. Believe they are Garrett R8926100 turbos and this setup uses N9830 injectors
Good way of popping a cylinder allowing it to melt out the seal . Especially the aluminum blocks
?? What are you even talking about? It may be silver in color, but it's still a sleeved cast iron block and heads (plus the block was filled with water when they started it)
Keep up to great work on the videos
Such a sweet beautiful baby girl!!!! Can't wait to put one in my 2002 Toyota Tacoma 4 wheel drive!!!!
Thank you!
@@MotormasterK100 sometimes even if you've got everything perfect you've got to give those baby girls a shot of ether they normally think it's yummy and they'll wake up and say howdy according to this Texas girl!!!!
In this case, and for all two stroke Detroit Diesels, the blower is required for the engine to run. The blower is there for exhaust gas scavenging. Without it the engine would smother itself.
RMC 1st MLG cheers
It seems like a lot of diesel people don't care if they are enveloped by a big cloud of smoke once in a while. Getting them running " right" is intriguing to a lot of people...and once warmed up, way less smoke.
Gotta love the sound of a screamin jimmy!
those engines (in single turbo form) are found on the LAVs. good little engines and quite the screamer too!
I built and dynoed these engines for Raytheon. Very cool little engines.
@MotormasterK100 this gives a whole new meaning to the term first start. you being no mechanic youve done an amazing job. ive found vintage crate engines. and want to grab a few for various projects
:32 You got any fuel hooked up? Where do u think the smoke is coming from? There is always that one guy who say that.
That right there is bad ass. But, u got them baby turbo on there. They need like 60mm
0:30 "Got any fuel hooked up?" Ah no.....that's cigarette smoke you are seeing coming out the turbo. Here's your sign.
diesel mutt88 That was my thought, too.
Ehhhh.... could maybe be assembly lube if they broke it down.... but I know what your getting at
@@tjlovesrachel white smoke from a cold diesel engine is fuel that got hot enough to vaporize, but not hot enough to ignite.
jm15 yes thank you although I know this I was just trying to point a different avenue... but usually assembly lube burns blue like oil ... but I was just trying to go a different route
@@jmurphy1973 Wow turbo
I heard a jock at the big 8 cklw say something to the effect of it's time for some of that top-down Motown sound, it seems very fitting here
They sure as hell don't make them like they used to. Itd be nice if Detroits and Cummins engines like these were still in trucks
I loves detroit diesel engines...
10
Congratulation friends.
I live on Brazil.
glorious sound , worked on many GMC/Detroit 2 strokes never seen a SILVER series 6V53 tho,,NICE
when did detroit diesel stop making the 6v53 1990's?
It was largely phased out and replaced by the 4 stroke 8.2 Detroit for consumer use somewhere in the late 80's to very early 90's. There are some (and potentially still are being produced) electronic DDEC versions that the military uses. Last time I checked, the DDEC turbo aftercooled version was punching about 400hp. To say the least, that is a large amount of HP per cubic inch all things considered.
MotormasterK100 isn't it funny how that engine was phased out 25 years ago because it was too noisy and didn't make enough power under boost, but now we wax nostalgically about it?
i love the response of a 6v53 when you rev it its so quick.
Larz Here is something to think about. You know there as a whole there are a lot more accidents involving big rigs and cars. Personally I think it's because modern rigs are often too
quiet. But when people heard the screaming detroit coming, they heard it well and got the hell out of the way. It is a unique engine.
Emissions killed this motor
love the sound, cute lil thing!
I don't know shit about diesels, except for this one is bad ass.
THAT IS SOO AWESOME !!
How do you expect to pick that pretty little girl up without buying her a drink?????? Give her shot glass of the good stuff!!!
@Unlimited3406 I think they will sound great on this thing. The exhaust will be run down the sides of the truck like an old hot rod through six inch straits.
I have a serious question as a way to boost low end torque with detroits. Could one drill holes in the 4 air box covers of a 6v53 put reed valves in the holes and run boost through that instead through the tiny blower bypass ?
Along with a properly sized compound turbo setup so that you don't need a VGT (some say they wont work for detroits) and you can flatten out their power curve .
After startup I was looking to diconnect the blower by instead turning it with a AC clutch pully.
I'm working on ways to rid detroits of needing blowers other than for startup because the blowers can actually eat up quite a bit of HP (40-70) and the bypass only frees up about 7.
Well... you could look at a complicated system like the railroad locomotive detroits used, a gear driven turbo with an overrunning clutch. The 567, 645 and 710's all used that system. I personally have never seen one, so I don't know what all is involved with it.
You're probably going to need more than an AC clutch to run that blower. Mercedes C32 ad E55's used an electric clutch on their AMG cars for their blowers, but if the motor was over 2500 rpm and you nailed it, the blower wouldn't engage because it would either fry the clutch, break the belt, or take the shaft off the end of the blower. They limited it to operate from a low dig.
I don't know how much air a paxton or vortech supercharger moved at low speeds but it might be worth looking into.
Thanks man. This really helps.
Modern electric blower might push enough air to start it.
I'm going to have to find a video of one of those old engines. Almost forgot how they sounded.
If GM offered the 6V53 in the Baby Fishbowl instead of the Toro Flow, GM would have had more Baby Fishbowl sales.
Rev happy 2 stroke detroit music!
" You gots the fuel hooked up ? " snicker-snicker
( exhaust shows Nothing BUT unburnt fuel ! )
I rode for several years in an '87 bus with the (now rare) IH DV550 V8. Another awesome sounding engine, especially with the 4-speed manual!
Yes the DV550 was one of International's better ideal (much like GM with the 5.7 Olds Diesel). The took the 549 gas engine and made a Diesel out of it. You'll notice it was not in production for very long.
Actually, They did use these engines in the late 70's to mid 80's Blue Bird All Americans. They had the non turbo version for the AAFE (All American Front Engine), The AARE, (All American Rear Engine) you had the turbo option. You could also get them with Cat 3208's, Cummins 555 V8's as well.
What are the 2 pulleys in front that spin opposite?
Those are accessory pulleys.
MotormasterK100 Are they driven off the back of the super chargers?
***** camshaft driven
Cool
+blackericdenice The camshaft opens and closes exhaust valves. No intake valves like you would find
on a 4 stroke, instead it has scavaging ports which are located at the bottom of each cylinder. The engine block is unique in it's construction having air galleys as well as water galleys. Very unique engine in it's design and
operation
The real tall valve covers look like a jake brake
It has a set of Jakes on it
All with zero coolant, really smart, har!
I was in the GM spare parts store here in Australia many years ago and a bloke came in and said his truck with a 8v92 was using or leaking 20lt. or 5 gallons of oil per day. I thought mine was bad at 2lt per day. haha
Absolutely beautiful
would one of these fit in my dads 1086 case ih tractor the old engine is worn out
Yep just get you an adapter kit from Johnny Cash. He did it with a Cadillac.
I thought 2-stroke diesels had a Roots type blower to scavenge the air into the engine.
do you happen to have the parts list for these 6v53 models, I’m guessing this one is around 300hp and they’re nasty, can’t find info on these specs anywhere, specially the military spec ones which are nuts
dear santa I want a version of this engine so bad I'm not picky but the 8 or 12 would be nice thank you merry Christmas
Love those Detroit V's
There are no intake valves.Ever time the piston comes to the top it fires.On a 4 stroke ever other time it comes up.Only 2 strokes of the piston per cycle.One up and one down on a 2 stroke.On a 4 stroke there are 4 movements.2 up and 2 down total to complete a single Full cycle.
+MotormasterK100 What is the difference between the Detroit "green" engines and the "silver" engines?
The "Silver" Detroit Diesels were the apex of the 2 stroke mechanically controlled engines. There were numerous upgrades to these engines over their "green" Detroits before them. Detroit Diesel learned from some of the weaknesses that the green 92's had and beefed up the blocks and some of the interior channels, which were one of the early 92's biggest weaknesses. The 53 silver series was released a couple of years after the 92 silvers hit the market and it shared many of the "silver" upgrades. Some of the most notable upgrades are the addition of a bypass blower, which reduces parasitic hp drain from the required blower. Cross head pistons. After cooling was also an addition to the Silver lineup. Put quite simply, the silver versions of the 53, 71 and 92 series were available in higher horsepower ratings and were designed for longer life than their green predecessors. The silver 53 is able to reliably produce slightly over 1 hp per cubic inch, which is quite impressive for the relative small displacement. This one is built at around 350hp. Not too shabby for 318 cubic inches. The US military still uses this engine to this day with electronic controls. Paired with that AND intercooling AND After cooling they are rated up to 400 hp! That is the point where you start probably reducing longevity though.
If you ever had one you would know the difference
No noise , this is music.
Dam love that sound of a pissed off dd lol
jakes for a 6v53? never knew that were'd ya get em? i bet they'll sound awsome slowin down a load on the highway
What kind of power does that motor make
Deborah chesser , 300 to 350hp. It was originally setup for 300, but we went up in size on injectors.
Nice thanks for sharing
@Red Billy , not much.
@Red Billy Looks like the output was/is 445ft lbs @ 1500rpm. EDIT: Looks like the initial figure that I quoted was for a non-turbo engine. The turbo engine seems to put out between 750-800ft lbs.
@@crazyfvck WIthout injector modifications, the TURBO (single turbo, mind you) 6v53 made 300-hp, and 750-ft/lbs of torque. Change configuration from one BIG turbo to two smaller turbos, up the injector size, and it is feasible to approach 400-hp and 800-850 ft-lbs of torque...
BUT...all this begs...WHY? When you can go to ANY junkyard, and buy an inline Dodge Cummins 5.9L that makes anywhere (depending on year and configuation) from 240-hp/450-torque to 350-hp/650-torque! OR, for simplicity, bullet-proof 1-million mile motors...the International DT466 will give you 300-hp 800-ft-lbs torque with less-weight, cheap parts, simple to work on, and parts EVERYWHERE!
Miss the sounds of these working.
Muito bom. Difícil manutenção nesses motores???
That thing sounds NASTY!!!! I want one!!!!!
My dad had one on his double drum Wilson rig
Can anyone tell me what that small thing is under the left hand bank that runs off the fan belt with the idler pully? Is it part of the cooling system? Thanks.
TENHO UMA CURIOSIDADE SERÁ QUE AINDA EXISTE PÉÇAS DE REPOSIÇÃO PARA ESSES MOTORES??
No ecu, map, crank, cam, o2, sensors to stuff up just pure power and plenty of it, good platform for a pick up which would outlast any one.
What is engine in light tank 106 unit royal thai army
Beautiful engine !
Great engine - don't abuse it - give it some water!
Roger Tycholiz , it had water in it. We kept checking the Temps in between starts too.
I'm not really a fan of american cars but man are Detroit diesels glorious.
Drive a 2015 Mustang GT with a manual and take it up pass 6500 rpm.
***** So..............
Bob Smith If u don't get that, u are a waste of my time.
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No. The waste is running an engine past 6500 RPM in a street vehicle, Einstein!
But....you go ahead & play roulette with your little toy, we know who will lose....YOU!
You not u.
Get some education before you spout off & look like a fool.
Bob Smith Dude the engine peak at 6500.
Awesome job :) love these engines
If you rode a city bus anywhere in North America from the 60s to the 90s you would probably have been carried by one of these......
Hi everybody. How many horsepower?
Thanks for the answer and God bless the USA 👏🤝👍🇺🇸
Somewhere between 300 and 350.
OK Go ahead . Where you live???Regards Geraldo
so where that motor going in to?
A beefed up 1 ton dually.
cool
MotormasterK100 hi where did those motors come from where can I get one? what kind of machines are they put in that I could buy?
@@kwaichangcaine8234 Hi. Sorry for the late response. This one came from a government auction. It was still in the original crate. They pop up every now and then, but military surplus would be a good start.
ga damn that thing screams.... whats it tach up to?
If it has the bypass blower does it have an aftercooler beneath it? I know the 92 Silvers did.
ThePaulv12 , it has the provisions for the aftercooler like the 92 silvers, but we don't have one on it currently. We may add it or run an intercooler style instead. Just depends on where the numbers are and what I ultimately install it in. Thanks!
Probably the carburetor was a bit out of balance.... LOL.
very difficult to adjust a stable idle wuth such a light flywheel!
How long can u run it with no coolant? What is the round structure on top of the valve cover? If you had the room/time would you install intercooler, or perhaps that doesn’t matter so much with 2 stroke. Awesome sounding engine btw
It has water in it, just not any circulating. We wouldn't run it for long, and would use temp sensors to monitor various spots. The round part that says "Silver 53" is a breather. This block (to the best of my memory) has the provisions for an aftercooler. Like the larger brother series, the aftercooler goes below the blower on "top" of the airbox. Thanks for the interest!
The intercooler is under the blower. The round things on the valve covers are breathers. Needs buffer adjustment to smooth out the hunt at idle.
It does have a roots style blower. It sits between the heads on top of the motor, normally below where a single turbo would have been in this application.
MotormasterK100 IP
Heh heh, not much flywheel on that bad boy! That would be nice in an early 50's Chevy or GMC pickup.😁😉
Flywheel weight 40 lbs on the 6v53T engine
Anyone know what turbos them are
Will this engine fit in a Nissan Patrol?
What problems do you have 2 stroke diesels that you don't have with a 4 stroke? .
To me it is more about personal preference. The 2 stroke power band is more reliant on constant higher rpms. Detroit Diesel 2 cycles do not like to be lugged.
The later DD 2 strokes have bypass blowers and 1 or 2 turbo's. This in effect widens the powerband to similar to 4 stroke Diesels which are fairly narrow (1300-1800 RPM).
Bob Nixon , yes and this is one of the later mechanical 53s. it has the bypass blower and originally had 1 larger turbo.
amazing sound!!!
What where these used in?
I wouldn't run a 53 series that long without coolant or water pump hooked up-can melt the seals on the wet cylinder liners.
Tom Christman , I wouldn't risk it either, those liner seals melt very easily on all wet liner engines and the next thing you know is the sump is full of water, crazy thing to do after all the work you've just put into it and then having to do it all again.
It's not a 53
@@jimmychambers1501 It's not?? So, what is it?
@@scottcurry479 It's a "35" it says so on the valve cover @4:10
@@mattywho8485 WTF is a "35" series Detroit?
What's that liquid spilling out of it when it's running?
Njderig , water. We put some in to monitor water temps.
Awesomeness... it leaks out because it's so full of it!
:)