Everyone saying that concept rowers SHOULD have the handle stored outside the racking point….I don’t care, it’s messy and has no place in a photo submitted for a pain cave review 😂
Welp, I was just about to make that comment. And concept2 has changed their manufacturing so it is fine to store the handle in the holder, but it is hard to overcome that many years of a built up habit.
This not using the handle holder dates from the 80s when the fear was the bungee would get stretched. C2 assure us now the handle can be safely stored in the holder with no ill effect but old habits die hard
Ignore them. They're all wrong and you're right. Concept USED to recommend leaving the handle out of the rack...back in the days of the model A and B. But from the model C onward they changed the design and it's not an issue. Put the handle in the damn rack.
Could just call this series „Roast my home gym“. And I would watch every second of it. Your dry humor just hits the nail on its head. I can not stop giggling. Thank you!
Call that a gym? We used to have to do press ups on cold shards of frozen tory party election paperwork and be in t'mill 24hrs a day 7 days a week for LIFE!
Fun video Mark. Not racking the handle on the concept2 is actually recommended by concept2 to take the load off the springs hence, significantly increasing their life span.
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
Yes. Anyone with any rowing experience knows that what Mark calls the “rack” position is not where the handle should be stored when the machine is not in use. Rookie error mate. Totally excusable though for one who has never actually rowed. Great video nonetheless, as always. Your joke about children’s weights is one of the best I’ve ever heard
@@markalderdice2288 It's a strangley hotly debated topic. Concept2 engineers say it's totally fine to keep in the hook - anything after the Model B is designed to be ok. But the Model D manual still says to keep in the hook. And there's just the historical habit of people keeping it there, whether it's because they believe it preserves the shock cord, or just to stop it being knocked out of the hook accidentally. But the truth according to the C2 engineers anyway - is it doesn't matter as far as the bungee is concerned.
I’m in Yorkshire and recovering from a throat infection, so that last one made me hurt myself laughing. The music was genius, you absolute bar-steward! 😂
Hi Mark, thanks for making our cushions famous! I must agree that it is best to store the Concept2 handle outside of the racking point. Hope the calf is healing nicely.
Minor point... I believe Concept2 recommends to park the handle against the stops to reduce the tension on the elastic return cord, thus making your machine maintain its handle return tension for longer, before needing adjustment of the cord/replacement. 0:59
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
Actually Mark, you're supposed to store the cushions on top of the duvet on top of the car, as the wax from the car helps prevent perishing of the materials, at least that's what the Duvet and Automobile Association say.
Mark, been watching your videos over the course of a few months with plenty of chuckes but tonight at 4:26 of this one had a genuine laugh out loud moment. Effing brilliant. Top lad.
Great video made me laugh ! ! ! 🙂 There is a reason why you don't store the handle in the racking point : it stretches the bungee cord for nothing while you are not rowing. So better let it go. My 2 cents... I know that some of us will say that it's irrelevant, but I got the answer from a tech directly at Concept2 in Vermont USA when I bought my rower directly at the factory. 🙂
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
Wracking the handle "properly" on the rower is actually worse for the rower as it keeps constant tension on the internal mechanics. I thought you'd know this Mark as an above average rower! ;)
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
I intentionally allow my rower handle to stay in the fully retracted position, rather than in the little holder. The reason is the bungie cord. It's an ol' model B and I'm trying to preserve what little elasticity remains in the original part. Hm, kinda like my Achilles tendons.
former collegiate rower here. the "handle rack" is mainly for in-between sets. Once you are done with the workout, it's better to get it off the "rack" to preseve the condition of the spring in the main unit.
Fwiw , i read or imagined that I read in the concept2 manual that you are supposed to keep the handle there when not in use . I think it's supposed to help the bungy last longer.
Your comment about the C2 handle: C2 recommends that is the proper storage of the handle. Only store on the bracket when you are getting set up. Otherwise the retraction bungee can get stretched out over time.
"Only store on the bracket when you are getting set up" - OR taking vanity photos! However, I have been known to store my bicycle with the valves both a 6 o'clock...
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
In the rowing world, we say that you shouldn't 'rack' the concept handles when you're not using the erg as it wears out the bungee unnecessarily. We tend to say to only use it for short rests between pieces. So, maybe points shouldn't be lost for that!
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
This is coming from a rowing athlete, leaving the rowing machine handle in the cup when not using it stretches out the chain and your machine won’t last as long. The proper way to store the handle is all the way in up against the machine like they have it. ;)
That wooden sword is a Theta Chi fraternity paddle, mostly symbolic these days they used to be part of a gauntlet ritual that I thankfully never experienced (proud Sigma Chi here).
Hahaha, as soon as that sombre soppy music came on I started laughing, waiting for the punchline 😂 Oh and, "shame there's nothing flammable" 😂 Funny stuff, keep 'em coming Mark!
Buy a full power rack with multi grip pull up included, they look cumbersome but actually save a lot of space in reality, you can do so many exercises in them. on them, etc even without weights, add gymnastic rings and a dip station to the rack itself and you are sorted, you can store loads within the frame also when not in use, forget singular pieces of equipment eg pull up bars etc they are not needed and take up extra space, and installing equipment outdoors in this part of the world is not great, cold, wet, dirt, rust , nah.
My "home gym" is a pullup bar, parallel bars and a £200 stationary bike. I'm not spending more than that because I ride them like I hate them, and whether it costs £100 or £1000 it _will_ be fucked within three years.
I'd love to have a house with a garage.... But the missus would fill it with junk😂 so yh I'm also in the market for an outdoor pull up rig. Calisthenics for the space limited.
Great video Mark! Glad you're back to proper content rather than trying to sell standing tables. We're here for fitness and motivation, not office supplies (no matter quiet the motors are)! 😂
I am here for some proper entertainment. Do Not care if He sells tables, peels banans or does some sports. As long as I am entertained (and maybe a little bit motivaited) i watch.
hey Mark! been trying to figure out how to display my race medals! I like how yours are setup on the background. don’t suppose you could do a review on it. just might motivate some lads to go get after it like you Mate 😎
Mark - maybe it was made by someone with impaired vision Also Mark - it's a whale surfing Clearly it's a whale breaching, I mean where's the surfboard? Who has the impaired vision now, eh?
Everyone saying that concept rowers SHOULD have the handle stored outside the racking point….I don’t care, it’s messy and has no place in a photo submitted for a pain cave review 😂
Brilliant.🤣
Welp, I was just about to make that comment. And concept2 has changed their manufacturing so it is fine to store the handle in the holder, but it is hard to overcome that many years of a built up habit.
This not using the handle holder dates from the 80s when the fear was the bungee would get stretched. C2 assure us now the handle can be safely stored in the holder with no ill effect but old habits die hard
better for the spring that does the pullback after a stroke
Ignore them. They're all wrong and you're right. Concept USED to recommend leaving the handle out of the rack...back in the days of the model A and B. But from the model C onward they changed the design and it's not an issue. Put the handle in the damn rack.
Could just call this series „Roast my home gym“. And I would watch every second of it. Your dry humor just hits the nail on its head. I can not stop giggling. Thank you!
That's an outrageously luxurious gym setup by Yorkshire standards. The man must be a millionaire.
Call that a gym? We used to have to do press ups on cold shards of frozen tory party election paperwork and be in t'mill 24hrs a day 7 days a week for LIFE!
TWO rings?! Pure luxury
The set-up and pay-off for the "he's in Yorkshire" bit is the funniest thing on the internet today.
Fun video Mark. Not racking the handle on the concept2 is actually recommended by concept2 to take the load off the springs hence, significantly increasing their life span.
On money mate...but it's a "bungee cord" not spring...
@@stevewaters6679 arrr, true they are. Thanks!
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
Yes. Anyone with any rowing experience knows that what Mark calls the “rack” position is not where the handle should be stored when the machine is not in use. Rookie error mate. Totally excusable though for one who has never actually rowed. Great video nonetheless, as always. Your joke about children’s weights is one of the best I’ve ever heard
@@markalderdice2288 It's a strangley hotly debated topic. Concept2 engineers say it's totally fine to keep in the hook - anything after the Model B is designed to be ok. But the Model D manual still says to keep in the hook. And there's just the historical habit of people keeping it there, whether it's because they believe it preserves the shock cord, or just to stop it being knocked out of the hook accidentally. But the truth according to the C2 engineers anyway - is it doesn't matter as far as the bungee is concerned.
"Get burgled", hubby laughed so hard he trumped. Entertaining from start to finish
I’m in Yorkshire and recovering from a throat infection, so that last one made me hurt myself laughing. The music was genius, you absolute bar-steward! 😂
Hi Mark, thanks for making our cushions famous! I must agree that it is best to store the Concept2 handle outside of the racking point. Hope the calf is healing nicely.
Minor point... I believe Concept2 recommends to park the handle against the stops to reduce the tension on the elastic return cord, thus making your machine maintain its handle return tension for longer, before needing adjustment of the cord/replacement. 0:59
This is correct 😂
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
"Maybe some second amendment thing." You kill me, Mark. 😂I figured maybe an art project from someone close?
Actually Mark, you're supposed to store the cushions on top of the duvet on top of the car, as the wax from the car helps prevent perishing of the materials, at least that's what the Duvet and Automobile Association say.
My 'pain cave" would have been a picture of my kitchen floor.... 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mark, been watching your videos over the course of a few months with plenty of chuckes but tonight at 4:26 of this one had a genuine laugh out loud moment. Effing brilliant. Top lad.
Great video made me laugh ! ! ! 🙂
There is a reason why you don't store the handle in the racking point : it stretches the bungee cord for nothing while you are not rowing. So better let it go. My 2 cents... I know that some of us will say that it's irrelevant, but I got the answer from a tech directly at Concept2 in Vermont USA when I bought my rower directly at the factory. 🙂
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
Wracking the handle "properly" on the rower is actually worse for the rower as it keeps constant tension on the internal mechanics. I thought you'd know this Mark as an above average rower! ;)
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
I intentionally allow my rower handle to stay in the fully retracted position, rather than in the little holder. The reason is the bungie cord. It's an ol' model B and I'm trying to preserve what little elasticity remains in the original part. Hm, kinda like my Achilles tendons.
Loved the musical build up to the Guy from Yorkshire review. I guessed what was coming but that just made it even funnier :)
I hate using music in my videos and always try to avoid it. So if you hear it, normally means something is coming 😂
Tbh, the outside set up looks awesome to me too. Those bars look sturdy and you have plenty of space.
You sir, are hilarious and a joy to watch
former collegiate rower here. the "handle rack" is mainly for in-between sets. Once you are done with the workout, it's better to get it off the "rack" to preseve the condition of the spring in the main unit.
Wow, that last gym is something else. Inspiring to see people making the most out of hard circumstances.
Fwiw , i read or imagined that I read in the concept2 manual that you are supposed to keep the handle there when not in use . I think it's supposed to help the bungy last longer.
These guys head the word CAVE
"Get burgled" fucking hell 🤣
Keep doing these! I just can't stop laughing haha
Your comment about the C2 handle: C2 recommends that is the proper storage of the handle. Only store on the bracket when you are getting set up. Otherwise the retraction bungee can get stretched out over time.
"Only store on the bracket when you are getting set up" - OR taking vanity photos! However, I have been known to store my bicycle with the valves both a 6 o'clock...
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
@@rowalong wrong wrong wrong. The manufactuer says otherwise.
In the rowing world, we say that you shouldn't 'rack' the concept handles when you're not using the erg as it wears out the bungee unnecessarily.
We tend to say to only use it for short rests between pieces.
So, maybe points shouldn't be lost for that!
Common myth. They changed how they made them a LONG time ago, and that advice only applies to Model B rowers. Everything from C forwards, you can store in the holder. The only reason not to, is if it's likely to get walked into and knocked out of place.
Brilliant. Again. You've got a good thing going on here. The last gym space in Yorkshire properly got me.
This is coming from a rowing athlete, leaving the rowing machine handle in the cup when not using it stretches out the chain and your machine won’t last as long. The proper way to store the handle is all the way in up against the machine like they have it. ;)
Love the chair for the tiny coach
Holy fuck, when you said Yorkshire I died laughing
"get burgled!" Lolz.
Just a thought but are you sure Jen didn't mean an outside bar that serves cocktails and has al fresco dining? 🤣🤣
Once again another great video, keep up the good work mark 🤙👍
The Seven reference 😂😂😂😂
Beautifully done
"plenty of storage but crap everywhere" - sound like my garage!
i love the ending.
Yeah Pain Cave reviews! Love it Mark, I’m still in progress on creating mine so you won’t be getting any photos until it’s done.😂
damn. no apartment pain caves to give me ideas. :))
A proper laugh to start my day. Thanks for that.
Brilliant. PMSL!! 🤣🤣
That wooden sword is a Theta Chi fraternity paddle, mostly symbolic these days they used to be part of a gauntlet ritual that I thankfully never experienced (proud Sigma Chi here).
I think Mark would look good with a mullet
Hahaha, as soon as that sombre soppy music came on I started laughing, waiting for the punchline 😂
Oh and, "shame there's nothing flammable" 😂
Funny stuff, keep 'em coming Mark!
BRILLIANT AS ALWAYS
I need to do one of these!!! I have snakes in my pain cave! Literally!
I feel so much better. My 'utility room' has descended into a similar situation as the first two photos 😂
Darren does what Darren wants to do and doesn't give a shit!
Love these roasting videos always makes me laugh, you should have been a comedian 😃
That Concept 2 handle on the first cave is in the right place if it's not used often.
😂 so many funny ones here - thanks for the laughs.
"Three orange jumpsuits and you've got yourself a prison movie" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....get that leg better, soon, Mark!
Truly hilarious. Thanks Mark.
Always a good laugh! Show us your chin bar when installed!
Christmas came early, love these but where was the wattage cottage ?
We need more of these :))
Very good. I mean I'm here just waiting for the next training montage critique, but very good.
Stable Matt's are the way forward for flooring
Top class as always! 😂😂
Buy a full power rack with multi grip pull up included, they look cumbersome but actually save a lot of space in reality, you can do so many exercises in them. on them, etc even without weights, add gymnastic rings and a dip station to the rack itself and you are sorted, you can store loads within the frame also when not in use, forget singular pieces of equipment eg pull up bars etc they are not needed and take up extra space, and installing equipment outdoors in this part of the world is not great, cold, wet, dirt, rust , nah.
That was genuinely funny
One man's "gardening junk" is another GP's "home burial kit"....
The grass cutting machine is their workout sled I guess
😂😅😂🤣🤣🤣🤣. This was comedy Gold Mark. I can’t stop laughing mate. Well done.
My "home gym" is a pullup bar, parallel bars and a £200 stationary bike. I'm not spending more than that because I ride them like I hate them, and whether it costs £100 or £1000 it _will_ be fucked within three years.
love this
I now feel a bit better about the state of my garage
Hahahahah I loved this video so much
Mark despite be a good fitness guy,can also be a great roaster.I was laughing through whole video.
Holy shit Steve's got a Giant Bowery 72 single speed, great choice.
Bloody excellent
I don't even have a space to do that at the moment I have a garage but it need completely stripped of stuff that I don't need anymore
I wonder if Dan used the “get burgled” tip…
So funny. Love this shit
Harsh but fair.
😂…as always: great job Mark!
You should have used the footage from sleeping with the enemy for the versa climber
Nice one mark
I heard "outside bar" and was excited to think we might also get cocktail reviews. Sigh.
I'd love to have a house with a garage.... But the missus would fill it with junk😂 so yh I'm also in the market for an outdoor pull up rig. Calisthenics for the space limited.
Jen’s calves! 💪
Yeah last one was best, kettlebell does almost everything and pull up bar fills the gaps.
GIVE THIS MAN MORE AIRTIME! #funny #AF
Brilliant 🎉😂
Watched a documentary on Netflix called Losers and one episode was about marathon des sables. Thought of you guys!!
Stand-up comedy's loss is RUclipss gain!
I think the current fashion is for horse stable floor mats
in the pain cave reviews you have a great knack of sounding like your critique will be both cruel and witty but ultimatly ends up being neither
Awesome video!!! You really helped get us more motivated. How can we send you a picture of our pain cave?
What’s the leg injury? Always encouraging to hear other people get injured too 😂
You’re not supposed to rack the handle on concept 2. It keeps load on it and stretches it. Pro tip.
That’s old skoool. 😂. Modern ones are fine.
Great video Mark! Glad you're back to proper content rather than trying to sell standing tables. We're here for fitness and motivation, not office supplies (no matter quiet the motors are)! 😂
I bought a standing table off the back of that video!
I found it really interesting and will be getting one eventually
I am here for some proper entertainment. Do Not care if He sells tables, peels banans or does some sports. As long as I am entertained (and maybe a little bit motivaited) i watch.
taking care of your health includes having proper posture
But does Darren has a Fred Whitton jersey hanging up? Kudos for that if he does!
yo last one was the best imo, who tf needs a rower, 2 treadmills and a stationary bike?????
hey Mark! been trying to figure out how to display my race medals! I like how yours are setup on the background. don’t suppose you could do a review on it. just might motivate some lads to go get after it like you Mate 😎
IKEA kitchen rail 😂
hehe! many thanks 🙌🙌
Think I may have to submit my 1/4 of the garage for review, just need to install my motivational wall art not drawn by my 8 year old nephew.
Mark - maybe it was made by someone with impaired vision
Also Mark - it's a whale surfing
Clearly it's a whale breaching, I mean where's the surfboard? Who has the impaired vision now, eh?
Laugh out loud 😂
I'll show you a second amendment thing!!!
where would you go for decent matting? I think I have the exact same as Steve and it is quite bad.