Tampa man 'living nightmare' after enrolling at for-profit school a decade ago
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2016
- Going to college is supposed to be that life-changing, career-starting moment that you look back on with pride. But for some bay area graduates, they look back and only see a mountain of debt, a worthless degree, and a headache they can't kick.
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Community colleges are more legit than for-profit degree mills.
Community Colleges seem to also have more compentant teachers than university, ever since I transfered from Community College to Uni, the teachers here are very incompentant and asking them for help seems to be too much to ask from them. All they care about is research or helping grad students.
@@ducksoop.x Teaching wise yes i totally agree. Most of the professors at my university were incredibly intelligent but when it came down to teaching they were horrible.
I’m currently in the process of registering for community college in the spring. I just need to take the placement test before i can attend new student orientation.
True. Got mostly certifications in my field. Good so far.
my bachelor/masters school gave me asn additional 20k off just for having an associates
If these schools want to be for profit they need to be treated like any other business. If someone gets a product that doesn't do what it was supposed to, they should be allowed to return it for a FULL refund.
Apply that to ALL colleges and universities and investigate a school and all about degrees before going to a school.
YES!!!
I bought a ford mustang last year and it's not as fast as I thought it would be. I feel taxpayers and everyone else that is hard working should bail me out for my irrational and stupid purchases.
@@macneoh7418 FACTS, TRUTH
@@macneoh7418 /whooosh
Never enroll in a "for profit" school. Ever.
Yeah, these people should go to a real college like Ohio State or UCLA.
damien Smith Those colleges are now the same as the for profits.
Get the word out.
All college is a for profit scam.
This is why the top five colleges every year are always the most expensive ones even though there's no quantifiable evidence whatsoever to prove that an education at Yale is any better than the education at a community college.
United States citizens have been convinced that the more a College costs the smarter you'll be when you come out of it which is most certainly not the case. Intelligence is inherent in the human being it can't be purchased.
And that's the whole reason these Elite schools were created for rich people that have dumb children and know that their kids won't be able to compete from an intellectual level. This way they can just dump a lot of money on the school and they get a piece of paper that now says their kids are smarter than everybody else.
Expensive colleges are just another way for the rich to make sure that the poor can't compete with them as easily.
Think about it you know I'm right. No matter how smart you are if you're going for a job and the other person has a degree from Harvard they're going to probably get the job doesn't matter if you studied harder or if you are actually better for the job that piece of paper gets them in the door regardless of actual intelligence or work ethic.
100% scam.
@@tonyhsloanejr Your statement is uninformed and just what the for-profit loan mill traps want you to believe. Colleges are not all the same. Go to collegescorecard.ed.gov and compare tuition and graduation and retention rates. The better schools are somewhat affordable and don't look at students as an easy way to line their pockets. Real schools educate, for-profits or those that were and then became non-profits are the worst offenders. Good luck. Don't let the liars ever take your valuable loan money.
There should be a class action lawsuit against these companies.
The problem is that our government allows them to do this to people. And with Betsy Devos as head of Education, it is only going to get worse. She wants to turn all colleges into For-Profit schools.
@Video Vagrancy
Colleges have always been chasing money, whether they are private or public. They’re businesses first and foremost that’ll do whatever it takes to ensure profits and increase enrollment. They can receive millions of dollars in donations each year from alumni, and will turn a blind eye to any mistreatment a student experiences if they think it’ll ruin their reputation and profits. The “college” that was featured in this story was deplorably corrupt, but corruption runs rampant in all colleges.
American is the capitalist heaven this is what they don’t tell you. Even institution, jail, school seems to want your money & Americans use credit cards and get themselves into financial slavery
Internet Technology should have been your first red flag.
aT lEAsT iT's STeM.
Internet technology is actually a very useful degree, you learn about networking, cryptography, cloud architecture and some code
greywolf 18 True, cybersecurity as well
@greywolf 18
You’re better off just pursuing a Cisco certification if you’re looking to get into networking. Don’t even bother getting a Bachelor’s in IT.
What the hell is a Internet Technology degree
lmao i got an ad for a “for profit” school while watching this
Me too...
I feel so bad for these guys. Imagine being in that deep of debt. I hate even having a tiny bit of debt. It feels awful.
I blame the predators, not the people trying to improve their lives.
Well, it something that should be very illegal, and most people wouldn't think that happens.
@@derekwhite9932 That only happens in a TOTALLY free capitalist society like the US, where regulations don't mean a thing if someone is profiting on the other side...and sadly american society is a "pavlovian" one...
@@SmartRobot-wc2fb, no that is a corrupt society, but thanks and try again. What do you think of the Federal Reserve?
@@SmartRobot-wc2fb it's not a truly capitalistic society dumbass. There's far too many regulations to be considered that. I.e pollution, worker's rights, etc.
@@directorbeau lol so regulations that do the same thing that people want inhibits a business? LOL now that's what I call bs business shill talk! It's not like I don't know how business functions lol and it's quite hilarious to hear this
I have been blessed to have family members who explained the differences in accreditation so I always look for regionally accreditation of colleges and universities when applying.
That doesn't matter. Corruption is prevalent in this country.
Look at Phoenix or Strayer or Devry , they are all regionally accredited , they even offer campus classes.
But the reality is they are a scam. People who go there receive A's for turning stuff in or professors don't even exist.
"Not for profit" is also a meaningless term.
Just go to a community college that is state run and is not-for-profit
@@fironfiron8843 the first thing is your advice on going to community college is correct as a starting block. I actually started my education at a community college. When looking into furthering for my bachelor's degree I used a resource to eliminate the risk of being taken advantage of by using a published listed of colleges and universities affiliated with my religious community. Some of these are very good non-profit institutions that focus on doing much of what the state universities try but are unable to do. check this link. www.sbc.net/colleges/
@@josephparker646
The problem also goes beyond that as well. Specially if you put Employers into the factor, they will google it and find non-profit or private
@Red Divinity To each his own...
$1600 Hundred a month. Got damn!
Dude didn't even get his degree. He's never paying that off. Might as well file for bankruptcy
@@MasterNochi He can't even file bankruptcy for that if I'm not mistaken. School debt isn't eligible.😞
@@edunlap6594 true but is not a legit school is it?
@@MasterNochi it's still considered a student loan, and that can't be discharged with bankruptcy thanks to Bill Clinton.
Student loan debt is non dischargeable in bankruptcy.
*Before you buy into ANYTHING* , you must do your own research. Too much info online today that can prevent you or mitigate your chances of being ripped off.
Its actually amazing that today we have so much information available at our fingertips, yet so many people dont bother to even look
To be fare, these for-profit schools routinely pay search engine providers (like Google) to remove negative stories about their school and front-load search results with adds and “fake news” articles about how life changing a degree is. Don’t get me wrong, as a Masters student intent on earning my PhD after, I know the value of a degree and advanced degrees. But I do feel for these people (often times single parents) who are desperate to improve their financial stability by earning an undergraduate degree and get duped by one of these for-profit “schools.”
I want to know why their high schools let them do that. When I was in high school, they collected data on all the schools students enrolled in. They should have a list of all the nationally accredited schools to cross check and warn students which schools aren't accredited.
Most degrees are worthless - easy to get exists purely for making money for colleges. The worthy degrees are harder and difficult to complete. If done, it 'might' pay off handsomely in long-run. Anyways, a degree holder will never earn as much as the successful business owner and employer.
Sits through interview in socks...
Lmao
Another reason he's not getting a job lol
He doesn’t believe in the concept of shoes.
Had to sell his shoes. That's how bad his debt is.
A lot of people don't wear shoes indoors
Sanford Brown? That’s like making a knockoff car called a Limborghinni-McLaren
Hardvor Camberige school of educating higher lol 😂
Alberta Strong. ! r/whoooooosh
Do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband in sickness, health, good times, bad times, hell or high water?
"I do."
How about in sickness, health, good times, bad times, hell or high water AND $160,000 in school debt from Corn Dog University?
"HELL NO!"
Corn dog lol
Corn head university lol
If u get married and your in debt your partner owes that debt to it's kinda dumb really lol
I hate it when people do this but...
Corn Dog University!
@@geekedmaxx Funny when it's on the woman, nobody calls her out on it. Plenty of rich men wifing up women with student loan debt.
"Degrees" from fake schools actually backfire on an applicant. Shows the employer that you have the mentality of quick fixes, poor judgment, without doing your homework, and therefore a major financial risk to the company. Would rather have an honest applicant with just a HS diploma.
I am living this guy's life. This story hits it dead on.
Most of these for profit schools are insanely overpriced. I checked out Phoenix to see how much it was, $400 a credit hour. My local community college charges $100. Most employees where I live won't even look at you if you go to Kaplan or Phoenix. I know many people who have struggled with it. PLus they were unable to transfer credits. It should be very easy to transfer credits if you earned them at a community college. I've NEVER had a problem.
Wisteria a University will take credits from a community college if the grades are at least a C average. Anything below that you will have to redo the course at the university.
I feel like Minerva also falls into that category of fads
Brandon Martin precisely.
Wisteria - I agree that Phoenix is not worth your time. I got an email from someone who needed an editor to go over his doctoral dissertation. I agreed and he sent the document to me. I was floored. It could have been written by a middle-schooler. There was no substance to it, it was full of grammatical and punctuation errors, and was basically in shambles. I quoted him 2 prices: a lower price to clean up the grammar, punctuation and formatting only, and a higher price, to do all the preceding plus reword it to make it sound more educated. He chose the lower price. In the end, he got an A on it, and received his doctorate. So, apparently, an average middle-schooler can also get a doctorate from Phoenix
Have an aunt who got a BA/BA from Strayer in Business Administration. Currently enrolled to get a Master’s. She always thinks she smarter than everyone but doesn’t realize Strayer is a scam.
And that's why I got a CDL license... No loans and good pay
I've been driving since 2011 and now I'm in college. The trucking life is too hard on your mental and physical health. I work so many hours that I just simply don't have time for things that most people take for granted such as birthdays, weddings, working out and consistently eating healthy meals. The pay is incredible but it comes at a price.
I'm in college the smart way debt free.
Moíses Matos Enjoy not having a job in the next 5-10 years.
@@Greendragon420able if every truck driver went on strike at once America would stop over night! We're always going to need truck drivers ❤️🤗❤️
So you ask for donations for a living?
Ha that's respectable 🤣 LMFAO
Apples Garden Ok. Truck Driving is a low skilled job that will automated away within the next 10-15 years. That’s a fact.
Robert Craig no it’s not.
i go to a community college, and i've been screwed out of an entire semester because advisors lied to me. i know many people who have had the same experience. someone needs to hold schools accountable. thankfully the courses were only 1200, 3 courses, but it still sucks to lose that much time, effort, and money
Wow omg
My best friend got a degree from them he moved to Asia and has no intention of paying them
Can you just do that?
ColdClaws yeah, it not like the school is going to repo your degree or send bounty hunters for you. But your credit here in the US is fucked
only immigrants can get away with this. they can just leave and give up their green cards. if you are a US citizen it doesn't matter where you go they can still find you and take your money, and you won't be able to renounce your citizenship if you owe the government. you could go run off to a country the US doesn't deal with or go live in the woods somewhere, but would you really want to live like that?
Imperial0666 yeah that’s not really true
Imperial0666 You really think the federal agencies are going to try to find a guy in another country to make him pay? No. Theyll just issue a warrant for his arrest for fraud and leave it at that. Can never come back in though
I went to the same school, but in Vegas, and I'm in the same boat as this man. Don't regret doing the work and getting a degree, but I do regret going this route.
These bastards got me too!! I found out that hard way when I enrolled in a local collage to continue my education, since my company pays for 100% of the cost. Fortunately, I was smart enough to pay off my student loan many years ago so I don’t have that burden to deal with, but I have 96 credits that are totally useless to me, and I’m going to be nearing 50 years old by the time I earn my bachelors degree!!
It's better to get a degree as a 50 year old than to not get one at all.
Daaaaamn! 1600$ a month is a straight up theft. How are you supposed to live like this?
I got an ad for Walden University before this video lol
Big Foot They’ve been email stalking me too😳
Don’t feel too special, I get ads from these places, and at 72 yrs old!
😆
Walden is accredited
Walden University is regionally accredited!
Internet Technology? A typo probably?
I.T. mean Information Technology.
That's how they function. They use acronyms and sound-alike phrases to mask themselves. Like letting themselves be known as MIT where the M is anything but Massachusets.
i remember watching an iadt ad while in college, it looked very promising. lucky i didn't follow up
Holy mother of god!! $165,000 !??! @_@
Foolish
He went to a for profit college too. Worthless degree. Sucker!
@no Name Bull.
Really stupid. The online schools charge like $2000 for an associate degree. Not $60,000!
Glad to know I made the smart move and ditched school after high school, honestly I couldn’t be any happier not going to college
In 1965 I was conned into a computer training 2 year college. The con is that a bank (unknown to me at that time) paid the school for 2 years before I had my first class. I was making
weekly payments to the school. After 2 weeks I wanted to know where the computers were - the big ones I had seen in the brochure. There were not any computers. The instructors had day jobs and instructed at night. None of them had any credentials. After 2 months I quit paying. Of course I got the nasty letters about going to jail. I wrote back, OK let me get a lawyer and investigate this school. They never bothered me again. They did not want to be investigated! A few years later the Texas Attorney General shut down this "school" and a slew of similar
schools operating the same way. I lost some money but many poor blacks and whites lost a lot more.
jaw baw they had computers back in 1965? Were the the behemoths that used vacuum tubes ?
@@williamwhite9430 Computers have been a thing since the early 40s
I love how the degrees are worthless you can almost hear the rich College owners saying you better go to our college and pay us a lot of money or you aren't going to be allowed to have anything.
Doesn't matter how many books you read or what you know if you don't give us some money then you don't get to go anywhere in life.
What a joke.
Not really. You don't need a degree in "internet technology" to start a business.
@mrbobbilly I didn't say so, so you're the only simpleton around here. I said you don't necessarily need a degree to start a business, since the original post stated you can't get anywhere in life without a degree. A business is a good way to achieve something in life. Reading comprehension is not that difficult.
"I have a worthless degree and over $100,000 in debt . . . I know, I should buy a house!"
That's true though? Renting is a waste of money tbh
She wants a lavish wedding. It costs very little to go down to the courthouse and get married
STFU NIGGA
LEVITICUS 18 22 U GAY NIGGA
@@jensmalzer6344 haha wtf 😁😁
When they get married his debt becomes her debt.
I am $80,000 in debt with a public school degree in actuarial science. Actuaries are supposed to make $50k first year out of college and over $100k 5 years in. What they don’t tell ya is that the odds are high that no one will hire you. I’ve been on about 20 interviews and over 150 applications. No job. No internship. I graduated 5 years ago. I should be making $100k and nearly debt free. Instead I barely make minimum payments and live with my parents. My life is hell. DONT GO INTO COLLEGE DEBT FOLKS!
I mean I'm sorry this happened but is something is off here you need to do it correctly there's are like exams for actuary's you have to pass to become fully qualified I thought so do those?
@@weirdflex8158 oh yeah. I passed the first 3. They all take hundreds of hours of studying and a few hundred bucks to take the exam. Most entry level positions required 0-2 exams passed. I talked to professional recruiters who told me passing too many exams would hurt my chances of being hired. They seem to be right as I got less interest after I passed the 3rd exam. Apparently they have to pay you more for each exam passed.
Some research of the school and some basic math skills and you could have avoided this.
@Mr. Fluorocarb If you or I want to open a "school" offering "internet technology" degrees for $60k, should it be the government's job to step in and shut it down, or should people have enough common sense to research our bogus schools and choose another option?
Honestly. And if you don't have those basic skills, you shouldn't be in the same category as the traditionally college educated for employment or other purposes. Sorry not sorry.
Or maybe America adopting a UK styled system, where student loans are paid off without interests and you have to earn over 21k each year to be eligible to make a monthly payment. Also if you don’t pay it off by 65 it’s cleared.
This is why you research heavily before making an important decision.
"I am amazingly mad!" The wife is hilarious 😂😂
Private for profit universities are called diploma mills for a reason.
Wait a minute......getting legally married only costs about $100, what is she talking about at the end? I know she means having a big expensive wedding but her answer implies that you can't get married unless you have a wedding ceremony.
Truetothat454 She thinks probably what future she will have with a guy in 160k in debt, it' not the ideal start, which it will affect their lives forever. In my opinion, she probably means that.
John Kevin well I hope if you have a spouse he or she reads that comment. I guess you’ll never have a home of your own.
No, she’s talking about the fact that she doesn’t want his debt to become her debt, her credit will be ruined because of his, because thats what would happen if they got married.
You also marry the debt better just live together
She won't marry someone with debt
I was scared as hell before enrolling into a for profit school for nursing, especially after watching this. I did my research and went in for it. I'm glad it all worked out for me. I feel sorry for this guy tho
I’m glad you used caution and that everything worked out for you.
My lpn to RN school is for profit I believe they too are regional but what they did was sign an agreement with 3 online national colleges so once we are done all of our credits will transfer so we can do ASN to BSN without to much of a headache as far as getting credits transferred
I read an article online that stated that research showed that there is little to no difference in earning between people who get their degrees from expensive, ivy league schools vs colleges and less expensive universities.
Cc intravenous league?
remember those Everest commercials back in day
"Money aint tight, but it aint right, ya naw whatamean"
They knew exactly who they were targeting.
😂
Dude has a decent collection of Del Rey Robotech paperbacks though. 👌
Along with the Halo novels and the Feynman lecture books.
He could've spent that on legit Macross merchandise...
“Internet Technology”
I’m guessing somebody forgot what IT stands for
or, the college created a new course and degree (new product) to sell to students (customers). it's not nationally recognized degree so they can pretty much teach whatever they want and name it whatever.
You mean information technology
“More than his house payment”
hol’ up
The people signing up are so desperate... its sad. These guys are sharks.
Amelia Blanket it's an ugly, vicious cycle; rinse and repeat. Nothing but their for profits.
I sure as hell wouldn’t send my money for something that’s worthless
Any institution with “design” in the title should’ve been a red flag. Cmon people
Rhode Island school of design is accredited and non profit
the savannah college of art and design???? parsons school of design? lol what.
I’m tracking guys I’m just saying do your due diligence and get a degree that will give you return on your investment. There are reputable schools out there.
People should be careful when selecting a for-profit college, but they should also be careful when being herded into public state schools. They are just as expensive for out-of-state students as for-profit schools, and while the credits may be nationally accredited, many of the degrees are still worthless.
I spent 34k at Western Michigan University to get Criminal justice degree and got a good government job and was able to semi retire at 38 with 15 years in. Always go to real college.
Wow. Didn’t know different between National vs Regional Accreditation.
I’m researching info about online classes & this came up in my search.
Thanks for info
My mom was between jobs and took a job at pheonix. She had students that were LITERALLY illiterate. The recruiters are so scummy, they would find people who couldn't even read or had mental disability and would straight up tell them to just sign the papers and they would get free money. These places should be illegal.
who sajd you gotta marry someone to spend the rest of your life with them
I almost did the mistake of enrolling in a for-profit college. I was going to do a course that was 28k at their college and the same course and degree at a tech center was 1,800. Yeah, never trust what they say no matter how good it sounds, it isn’t.
When I was am instructor at le cordon bleu part of career education corporation..they told us to tell the students they can be executive chefs and owners with their degrees...
Go to community college it is cheaper and it provides transferable credits. Most public universities and colleges have a bunch of classes online. Don't be stupid.
I was a graduate of the last class of 2016 with a bachelors and a associates degree in computer science. I have been doing well in my craft for over 15 years.
Did she just say what I think she said that she can't marry him because his degree is a phoney degree
Am I the only one that thinks that's pretty screwed up of her?
Am I missing something here?
She can't marry him because of debt. She's in the right here in my opinion; I wouldn't marry someone if they had a lot of debt because then the debt would be shared between both people in the marriage.
I think she is just saying that weddings are expensive. He can't pay for the wedding or a ring etc
Courthouse wedding
@@bjornjoseph Not many people want a courthouse wedding
@Benita if thats what she means then she is being very superficial. I would not marry a woman like that. "In sickness and in health, for richer for poorer". If she can't vow that then shes not worth marrying
I went to a trade school 12 years ago.. I’m currently enrolled in a community college, don’t bother unless you actually KNOW lots of people that easily got decent jobs afterwards..
Men, notice how at the end, the woman says in other words that she can't spend the rest of her life with that man, because they can not afford a wedding. The way I see it, if you truly love someone, a lack of ceremony shouldn't keep from being with that person. It's during the rough times in life that you should show more dedication to your loved one. How can you be a good wife if you cannot be a good girlfriend that doesn't love opportunistically.
I believe all universities and colleges, for-profit or otherwise, should be required to give a disclosure to prospective students that states what the degree costs, the average job placement rate and starting salary for their particular graduates, and a comparison to graduates from other universities in their area with the same or similar degrees. You get more of a disclosure when you sign for a car loan than when you sign up for tens of thousands of dollars in student loans and multiple years of your time spent on a degree. With everyone thinking they need to go to college now in a lot of cases and with a lot of majors all you really get is a whole lot of debt with no meaningful Improvement in your earning potential.
The Government should shut them down if it's not accredited at the regional level period. And criminal prosecution for fraud against the owners.
dserenity69 I don't think you understand what you're saying. National accreditation is recognized by the U.S. Department of Education equally to regional accreditation. Further, each state decides whether or not a school can legally operate there. By the time a school has reached accreditation, it has already been approved at the state level. Therefore, the school is operating legally and has no reason to be shut down.
If it’s a business program, make sure is AACSB accredited. For profit schools do not have this accreditation
“Why are you making it so complicated? It’s EASY!”
He should've gone to a REAL school like Capella Online University
There are no shortcuts folks. Online college degrees are worthless.
no that is not true idiot. Online degree are fine from a REAL and reputable college such as Oregon State University and many others. it is purely for profit schools that are worthless
@@carasmussen27 True.
I understand this situation all too well. I did the exact same thing. I was interested in filmmaking since i was a kid. Saw some ads for Art Institute, and got interested, so i called the admissions office and got information on their school. I had no idea what i was doing and i thought for sure my admissions specialist would've just been honest with me about the process of getting accepted and funding my education. Nope, they weren't. They played me like a fiddle the entire time. They knew what i wanted out of life for myself and talked to me as if it were an easy process. They sat me down with tons and tons of paperwork, none of it i could understand. When I'd ask questions, I'd get vague responses. I never really caught on to the scam until a year after i was in school. I saw that they accepted pretty much everyone. I learned for the first time in my life that signing those documents so eagerly and without much thought or skepticism on my part turned into a life with loans i can't get rid of. No matter what i pay it just stays the same amount. All because i didn't question the process more closely, it happens. It's no one's fault but my own. I own that shit. I don't blame Ai at all. They were in the business to make money and they did so with people like me who didn't question anything. I signed documents that essentially allowed them to fund my schooling with private and federal loans. The entire thing. In fact they were so nice to me that they gave me a laptop computer and i had no idea it was out of my own pocket. If i could go back to my younger self I'd have refused and went with a local community college or a trade. I'd have spent time researching instead of being wide eyed and dumb, excited for anything that acknowledged me and made me feel like a winner. In the end they got me. I allowed it. To this day i still own the loans, and i say to other young people to not ever fall prey to these kind schools. Always make sure you can afford to go to college if that's your dream. Make sure you arent getting screwed and don't be afraid to say no, ask questions and a lot of them. Make them wait to sign anything and read all documents before signing. If you can't understand the terminology being used in these documents then ASK. If you still can't get results then do yourself a favor and find something better that won't charge you so much money. There are options and better ways of achieving your dream. Take control of your life and take responsibility for yourself. I did a dumb thing. That's on me. Own it.
I think university's made sense when, if you were good enough, you were accepted and awarded a grant as opposed to the pay-for-place method where you are accepted regardless of skill, only money.
Some state colleges and public universities are required to have an open-door policy for the sake of letting people who would otherwise not get a university at all make the effort to obtain one.
It is incumbent upon the prospective student to validate a school’s accreditation.
Nowadays, beware of similar with coding bootcamps that claim to be able to change your life in 3 months, etc.
A lot of people fall for these schools because they are trying to take short cuts. Schools like this offer lower credits to get a degree, or claim you can get a degree without clinicals etc. etc.
Florida has one of the cheapest universities in the country. I think full time tuition at university of Florida is like $7000 a year for a Floridian.
Come live in Oklahoma it’s super cheap
UF is also an extremely hard school to get into if you're not a star athlete.
$164,964.39 !? Good lord! X_X
If a product (a college degree) doesn't do what it is designed to do (get u a job in your field) then u shouldn't have to pay it back. Make the for-profit schools more accountable.
But people from nonprofit schools fail all the time. Should they get their money back too? You didn't think your post through very well.
I almost got scammed by these for profit schools, THEY EVEN ENROLLED ME IN COURSES WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE!!! Lincoln tech Illinoise
Does ITT Tech fall into this category? Navient is a loaner for them as well and they are closed. Credits cannot be transferred there either....
This says more about the US than that University.
NEVER get any kind of student loan. Those are bank loans. The interest is outrageous. Take it one class at a time and pay with your own savings. It will take longer but you have total control and ultimate save a LOT of money.
Depends on your ambition in life you definitely will not make more money but it is lower risk yes
I've been thinking of going to schools like Concorde, Florida Career College, Virginia College etc b/c it seems like ppl I know got into careers so much faster and I want to be in my career already. I attend Florida State College at Jacksonville. My health is also part of it because I have sickle cell disease. Once I pass Elementary Algebra I'll have 4/5 courses left until I graduate. The expensive loans also steered me away from attending those type of "colleges" as well. Atleast I still get a refund check from the school I'll start back at hopefully in January. Right now I'm in a lot of pain b/c I'm in a sickle cell crisis which is extremely painful & on top of that I'm waiting for a right hip replacement. I'll be doing my next course online b/c my disease is unpredictable regarding flare ups.
I'm so thankful when I went to talk to admissions I noticed she took me to financial aud trying to see how much I qualified for. Needless to say I got out of there!
GorgeouslyReal T.V. Good thing you left because VC just closed.
Well, if you are planning to attend to a private college make sure they are accredited and most of all do your research and check reviews from current and former students from that college.
I don't recommend for-profit colleges. It's best to go a community college or a 4 year school that is not a for-profit college. The problem with for-profit colleges is many employers don't think very highly of for-profit colleges. If a person has an engineering degree from a for-profit college, many engineering employers won't hire them. There are some engineering employers that will hire people with engineering degrees from for-profit schools, but many engineering employers won't hire people who have engineering degrees from for-profit schools. Many accounting firms won't hire people with accounting degrees from for-profit schools, but some accounting firms hire people with accounting degrees from for-profit schools.
So she cant spend the rest of her life with this dude because of debt
The PM anyone who would marry someone in that much debt is an idiot.
If the schools close then there’s no reason to pay the schools back the loans.
You're not paying back the school. It's a government student loan.
According to Dave Ramsey, if the college closed down, you are no longer responsible for the debt!
Yep I’m glad I was just duked for 12k from UMA online none of the credits transfer people sad that they prey on people trying to better themselves
Credits would transfer. People are simply too lazy to research and find schools that will accept them. I've known people who went to UMA and wound up in Medical school.
So we the taxpayers have to pay for all this debt. Profit schools try to enroll me to but you can say no and enroll in state or community college!
TJ Michael 60 grand ???? Moron
on-line collages like Kaplan need to get sued as they are a scam and they know it and to them they see ppl like you as a mark to get more cash from you.
Kaplan hasn't existed for years now, and you don't even know how to spell college, so how can you criticize one?
I love how the journalist said "a mountain of debt a worthless degree and a headache they cant kick"...PERFECT 💯
Sounds like most state colleges these days.
Universities are POINTLESS. It was suppossed to be a high learning institution, but since literally Everyone goes to University, owning a Degree doesn't out you one step ahead. It flooded the market with educated workforce who's often overqualified for jobs they're applying, further decreasing the value of owning a Degree. For any future University Student, DON'T go to College unless you're pursuing a carreer on education or science fields. All the other Degrees are just an uneccesary extra debt for you to pursue, especially with the current price tag. It's better for you to go to vocational school, especially if you're not that Smart. A good skill is always sought after, more often than a good Degree. Also there is no Pride in Debt if that's why you go to college, for prestige.
Always bothers me when clowns who don't know crap think they do
There's alot more nuance to it
this world's one big scam
I bet if everyone, and I mean everyone in the USA stopped going to college for the first 5 years the employer would get desperate and hire you people with a good salary job without a stupid degree.
Regarding the description, if they have a worthless degree, isn't that on them for choosing to go into a worthless field?
College itself is now a scam. I work as an underwriter and i’ve seen people with over 460k in student loans...they all say “Well i’m gonna be a dentist i’m gonna make tons of money and pay these off so who cares” I have two words...compounding interest....oh yeah...and inflation :)
Research the degree/major and school before spending money.
I recommend a trade school with an associates degree program.
Most trade schools are for-profit...
Those are for people who use their hands and not their brains
Yeah not everyone wants to work a trade though
Don't see much of a difference between these "for profit" schools and that "non-profit" schools that charge $40K a semester......
The difference is getting a degree that's either worthless or accredited.
Begotten exactly. The private schools are still a scam, but less of one because at least they give you something you can do something with, thus have a possibility of getting a job with high enough pay to pay off the debt. The for profit schools give you absolutely nothing, making you have to start over or get a minimum wage job as if you didn’t do anything. They even take grants from our vets too. I agree that the student has to hold some blame as well for not doing their research, but at the same time It’s like the gov doesn’t even care to shut down these scamming sharks.
Exactly
Huh? What was this woman's comment at the end? You can't be with the person you love, because of a "bs" reason? The bs reason is his debt? That's bs!
“Go to school they say, “You’ll make money they say. Now we know why people don’t go to school. Rip-off
Pick up a copy "weapons of mass instructions" or "the underground history of American Education" by John Taylor gatto
All I know is that if I have to pay the same amount at a traditional school as a for profit. I would pick a traditional school. There is no point in going to those schools.
That’s why I always do my research on schools especially with the accreditations
if you're not going to go to the ivy league universities it's best just to go to the public universities.