How to make a Sequencer CV/Gate connection to Behringer 2600, ARP 2600 and 2600 Clones
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- This is a quick tutorial about how to connect an external hardware sequencer via CV/Gate to a Behringer 2600, an original ARP 2600 or a 2600 clone.
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Learn everything about the Behringer 2600 here:
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Get started with the Behringer 2500 Eurorack System:
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Happy patching! Ralph
Yes, please do make more "tips" video's. It is appreciated.
Hello Christian, thank you for watching and your feedback! Have a nice weekend, Ralph
Excellent series Ralph. I am that new user who needs all the help I can get understanding the beast I bought, and your clear tutorials are hitting the spot for me.
Hello Irena, thank you for giving me your feedback! I am glad to read that my videos are helping a "2600 Newbie" to get over some hurdles. Wishing you a great time with your 2600 Synth. Greetings, Ralph
I'm 44 old, and passionate by synth was I'm very young boy. And now, I can dream every day because I've my ARP 2600 clone thank by Behringer. Next step : 2500 clone .... Thank you Ralph for your video, very awareness !
Hello Jerome, thank you so much for watching my videos! I also have my eyes on the 2500 clone modules ;-) Greetings, Ralph
Thank you so much for this tutorial! I have been looking all over the internet for this information and thanks to you I now have success! And yes I am one of the newly hatched Arp 2600M owners who need some good old-fashioned instruction. Please keep up the good work! God Bless!
Hi Eric, glad my video helped you using/learning your Korg ARP 2600M Synth. Have fun and best regards, Ralph
Good video. I wouldn't have guessed the gate needed to go in the S&H.
Well, a lot of new users to the 2600 are missing that point, although the prewired connection passes a strong S&H clock (gate signal) on to the AR and ADSR. Thanks for watching! Have a nice weekend, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl I can get ADSR to work, only AR? Any hints?
@@ARPMAN i am not quite sure what you mean...please clarify
@@RalphBaumgartl In the meantime I got it. You have to use a threshold: > 6 V
Exactly!
Thank you so much for your videos Ralph. I got the 2600 as my first synth ever and all your videos help me getting started so much!
Thank you for the kind words, it means a lot to hear that my videos have been a valuable resource for you. Greetings, Ralph
Also a big YES from my side for further tutorials !
Btw - You could use/connect the MOD CV Output of the Keystep to connect e.g the Filter of the Behringer and open/close the filter with the Modulation Touch Pad. The Mod output is just another control voltage you can use for other B2600 parameters.
Hello Matthias, good point there. I should have included that in my tutorial. Sometimes I don't see the forest for the trees 😉 Have a nice weekend and thank you for watching, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl I can't see how to use a mod source to control LFO; specifically to use the keystep's mod CV output to increase LFO depth with the Mod touch pad. This should be an obvious inclusion! Any ideas?
@@ionian8606 Hello Ian, I have seen a patch somewhere addressing the Keystep Mod CV output to the Behringer 2600 LFO depth via the Touch pad control. To be honest I don’t quite remember the patch at the moment. It required some cabling with the voltage processor. I have to google it again. I am sure there’s also a way to do this via midi. I have to look up the Midi settings on the Barp and the Keystep. That’s actually a good topic for another tutorial….
@@RalphBaumgartl Hello Ralph, I'll look into it too: it must be possible! I look forward to seeing it in a tutorial.
@@ionian8606I believe to get an LFO depth you need to use the Ring Mod as a VCA which I can’t quite remember the proper steps
Thanks Ralph. My B2600 due here on Saturday. I can't sleep.
I wish you lots of fun with your B2600 😃
Ralph, your 2600 videos are priceless! I gain so much knowledge with each one.
Thank you 🙏 I'm glad to hear that! Greetings, Ralph
Thank you so much for continuing to help out the community with these tips.
Hello Andrew, glad to know that my videos are helpful. Thanks for your support.
Essential video for beginners thank you very much !🎯
Thank you 🙏 Glad you find it helpful!
More please. The Behringer 2600 tutorials would be awesome. I now have the Blue Marvin and it has a bit of a learning curve but what a wonderful beast it is.
Thanks for watching my videos! Wishing you lots of fun with your Blue Marvin! Cheers, Ralph
Hi, I very much enjoy the tips that you have given about the Behringer ARP 2600, it helps me learn more about mine. Any more tips will be most welcome especially if you could expand to tips and examples of patching into eurorack modules to expand the audio potential. Please keep up the good work.
Hello Paul, thanks for watching my content. You can expect more stuff combining the 2500 modules with the 2600 Synth. Greetings, Ralph
Yayyyy Ralph. I have that same Arthuria key step. I use midi but today I did the cv cables. Omg I'm such a rookie when it comes to these terms like cv,gate, pitch, mod, sync, voltage lol. I really thank God for midi. But I tried it and I felt like I belonged in the modular world lol. I like Ralph
Hi there, I am glad that you gave the "old school" way of connection a chance. It'll help you when you add more modules and/or classic gear to your setup. Thanks for watching my videos! It's highly appreciated! Have a pleasant weekend. Ralph
Thanks you for thuis clear explanation. I have a Behringer 2600 now sinds this week and I am experimenting with it so you're tutorials are for me very important. 😀👍
Glad that you find my tutorials helpful. Wish you a great time with your new 2600 Synth.
@@RalphBaumgartl 👍
I just got mine in. I ordered some patch cables. Please continue to show us more things with the 2600! I don’t have enough understanding of modular synths for this to be intuitive yet. Thanks for you videos!
Yes, I am planning more tutorials! And the 2600 is a good choice to get started with modular Synths. You have all the essential modules in one box 😃
Hi Ralph, your videos help beginners like me a lot, thank you for all the useful information!!
I would also like to add that there is difference using 5v or 12v to trigger the S&H clock
If use 5v to trigger the S&H clock, the sound is more subtle than pressing the 'Manual' button to trigger a gate signal
However using 12v will trigger the same loudness as the 'Manual' button
Cheers!
Isaac
Yes, the 10V or 12V Gate is always preferable on the 2600 Synth. Thanks for watching my videos 🙏 Greetings, Ralph
Thank you Ralph! This is exactly what I needed.
Hello John, glad you found on my channel what you were looking for! Have a creative day, Ralph
Great video love the tips on the 2600. saving all these while my preorder gets filled
Hello Charles, thank you for watching and for giving me your feedback. Hope you get your Barp2600 delivered quickly. Greetings, Ralph
Second time I've watched this, & i doubt it'll be my last!
I intend to make sure ALL Ralph's lessons sink into my Dumb brain... eventually! 😂 Top video, as always, without these i wouldn't be able to go near my 2600... Thanks so much!!!
Thank you very much for your kind words! I am glad to learn that some of my followers are actually using my videos as some kind of "2600 Synth Manual". Thanks for watching my content. Greetings, Ralph
Yet another fantastic tutorial! Thanks again 👏🏻🙏🏻
Hi Julio, I am really glad that you are getting so much out of my tutorials. Greetings, Ralph
Thanks Ralph, your videos are helpful to those of us who are new to the 2600. Love your accent too! Keep up the great work!
Oh thank you! Thant's very kind of you to say. Quite often we German native speakers get a bit ridiculed for our accent ;-) Have a good day, Ralph
Hi my friend Ralph.
Thanks for this demonstration.
I think it's a great idea to do some tutorials of the workings of the 2600.
For example, I have absolutely no idea of the Voltage Processor or how to use it correctly, and what it can be used for...No idea.
You don't even see any of the reviewer's go near it either:) so I'm guessing I'm not alone in that area either.
Once again Thanks for your work.
Thank you for your feedback! Highly appreciated! One of the basic usage of the voltage processor is to create an inverted envelope. It's a cool idea to dive a bit deeper into the voltage processor. Have a nice weekend and many thanks for watching, Ralph
Check the video by Starsky Carr on the voltage processor. Really explains it well.
@@danpreston564 Voltage Processor Explained ruclips.net/video/5pkO7Yiffac/видео.html
Gold tip!
I was wondering how to plug in the multiplier.
Glad you got something from my video!
Very cool video. I have a question. Does the 2600 have a way to make sequences and arpeggios on it's own without an external sequencer? I see a lot of videos of it running sequences, but they're not really saying where they're coming from.
The 2600 doesn't have a genuine Sequencer module on board. But you can patch some kind of sequence or Arpeggio with the S&H module and Voltage Processor. Greetings, Ralph
Awesome to hear took me right back. Happy times.
Glad you you got something out of my video!
Hey Ralph! Yeah, would love more videos of the 2600. I've got the THC TTSH and I'm always looking for ideas and tricks. Cheers from Sweden.
Hello Peter, I will soon post some videos about the Gray Meanie and Blue Marvin comparing then to the standard Barp2600. Greetings, Ralph
Absolutely love these video’s and would definitely appreciate you making more tutorials on this 2600. I want to dice more into synthesis and you have a very comprehensive way of expleining. Thanks!
That's very kind of you to say 🙏 I appreciate your feedback. Cheers, Ralph
Please Ralph more tutorials!!!!! Stay safe, take care, peace!!!!
Hello Jose, thanks for giving me your feedback! Wishing you a great and relaxing weekend, Ralph
Free english lesson: it is midi input not import . Your studio looks very good. I am working to having something similar.
Content is good.
Please forgive me! English is not my native language. I not using a teleprompter, and try to memorize what I am going to say. I just mispronounced "midi input"....but I believe that's a glitch that could even happen to a native speaker when recording a video without a teleprompter.... 😉
Thank you very much Ralph, & yes please. AU
Thanks for watching! Glad you find my tutorial useful. Cheers, Ralph
Well done and very instructive for me ! Now i would know how to add a sort of phaser on vco's. Thank a lot again.
Thank you! Glad my video inspired you! Greetings, Ralph
Great - I was plugging in the gate from the eurorack sequencer to gate in not clock in - thanks!
Hello Stephen, you can also use the Gate In, but you have to send a trigger signal as well. I have also made a tutorial about this procedure ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html
@@RalphBaumgartl Hi Ralph - Thanks! I did spot your other post... two things come to mind. Why is it set up like this? Some kind of logic "AND" situation with a clock pattern and a note event/trigger? Also can you not just mult the gate to the trigger with a splitter? Or does the trigger need to be of a smaller length (as the name implies)? Then I would need to convert the gate to a trigger somehow.... maybe there is something on the 2600 that can do this? I need to read up on the 2600 more! thanks again!
@@stephenmurphy8349 The ARP 2600 concept is sometimes counterintuitive 😉 and yes, you can multiply the gate signal and route it to the Gate In and Trig In on the B2600. That's exactly what I did in my video.
Hi Ralph, please do more tutorials, very enjoyable and informative.
Thank you Brian! I appreciate your feedback! Cheers, Ralph
Love your videos Ralph !
Thanks a lot 🙏 Glad you like my content.
I have been into eurorack for some time now, so I pretty much know all of this stuff. Regardless, I tend to learn a little something from most of your videos, and I thank you for that.
Hello Trevor, thanks for watching my content. Yes, you are right, I actually gear my tutorials towards beginners. Since a new generation of users are discovering Hardware Synths, I believe that my "beginner" tutorials may contribute something to the evolving Synth scene. Greetings, Ralph
Hallo Heer Baumgartl, danke schön aus Burgund in Frankreich . Bitte mach mehr 2600 Tutos in 2023, finde ich es super toll !
Thank you 🙏 I will not only make more 2600 tutorials but other ARP clone related content as well. Greetings, Ralph
Excellent tutorial, thanks for the tips, yes please for more..for new users.
Hello Markus, thank you for giving me your feedback 🙏 Yes, I am planning to make some videos about what beginners should pay attention to. Greetings, Ralph
Thanks Ralph! Very helpfull. Do you can show, how i connect two Berhinger 2600?
Just use multipliers! For connecting just two B2600s you should be able to go with a passive multiplier for the VCO's and for the Gate signal you can use the MULT patch row on one of the B2600s. Cheers, Ralph
I use this method to control oscillator 3 with my rd-6. It’s a cool glitch in time effect. I blend in the td3 sound to taste and boom. A 2600 glitching in time to my drums :)
Nice! Anything goes!
Vielen Dank Ralph !
Just a note for those like me who followed the directions but did not manage to make the gate work properly : Be CAREFUL to pull up the slider knobs EXACTLY as ralph is showing on the video, in the right side, ie : bring VCF(Audio) and AR(Cntrl) all the way UP (VCA section), and the VCA(Audio) slide UP as well (Mixer Section). (I scratched my head for about an hour before realizing I was bringing UP the VCF up but not the VCA, hence the gate trigger having absolutely no effect 😅)
I am still struggling to have the same setup now but with the ADSR section though - still getting weird behaviour. I guess I'll figure it out after sticking to it for some time (still rusted after a couple of years away from synthesis )
Helle there! Well I am glad you got everything working after following my "instructions". Happy patching!
This was so helpful. How on earth is anyone supposed to know that the gate goes to the S+H input? Well, now I know.
Hi Eric, glad that my tutorial clarified this. Have fun patching!
Thanks a lot, Ralf. Helpful as usual.
I wonder if you could do a video about the Arturia Keystep, as the functions seem to perfectly match the 2600s.
Thanks in advance!
Hello Thomas, thank you for watching my content. I am currently not planning to make a tutorial about the Keystep because there are plenty of good tutorials out there already. Greetings, Ralph
Yes ! More tips and tutorials , thank you .
Hi Stan, will do! Have a good week, Ralph
Wondering why the sequencer coming from my Behringer MS-1 seems to work for CV, but not from my Korg SQ-1 or from my modular's sequencer? thx!
Hi Pete, kindly also try the procedure which I explain in this tutorial here:
ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html
I have never used the sequencers you are talking about. Sometimes certain gear is just not compatible with the 2600 for no apparent reason. For instance the Microbrute Gate is 10V, enough for the 2600. Nevertheless it doesn't work. Some google research revealed that the Microbrute Gate doesn't trigger the envelopes of certain ADSR modules.
Dear Ralph thanks for your tutorials. I am new to the 2600 and it has been easier thanks to you. I was wondering how to connect the Arturia Keystep Pro using its four 4 gate/pitch outputs. I tried your tutorial and it was wonderful. But I am short of figuring out how to connect the other three. I tried connecting a separate gate to each oscillator but it doesn't work. Thanks again.
Thank you for watching my content. You may have to adjust the settings of the Keystep Pro to accommodate your needs. In my tutorial I am just using the standard Keystep model. You can adjust the settings with the Arturia Software. Greetings, Ralph
Thanks@@RalphBaumgartl
Yes Please do more!
Will do! I have been busy with other work lately. Many thanks for sticking around! Greetings, Ralph
Hi Ralph! When connecting via CV/Gate, you lose out on the Portamento / Vibrato circuit. Do you have any videos that show if its possible to still use Port and Vibrato when you use CV/Gate? Thanks!
Hello Bill, you have to use the Voltage Processor to create a Portamento effect when you connect the keybaord/sequencer via CV/Gate. Here's my tutorial about the Voltage Processor ruclips.net/video/5pkO7Yiffac/видео.html
Happy patching :-) Ralph
Dear Ralph, thank you for this video (and all the other ones!). It seems to me that I can't use portamento using your directions, is there an extra step I should follow once everything is connected? Thank you again and again and again!
Hello Marc, you have to use the Voltage Processor for the Portamento effect when using a CV/Gate connection. Kindly watch my tutorial about Voltage Processor ruclips.net/video/5pkO7Yiffac/видео.html
@@RalphBaumgartl Thank you, I just did and subscribed to your channel
Super helpful, thanks!
Glad you like it!
Thank you so much for your great work sir 👍🏼
Thank you for watching and for your support! Cheers, Ralph
Great video, I think this will really help people.
Thank you 🙏 I am glad you found it useful! Have a nice weekend, Ralph
Yes. yes, yes more tips! Thank you!
Thanks for watching and your feedback! Will do :-)
Thanks Ralph, I'm looking forward to this tutorial. I use the 182 sequencer to follow this example I don't get any note variation would you have any idea please? is it related to the voltave? in any case thank you very much today thanks to you already a signal comes out of the 2600. cordially, Kriptek
Hello Kriptek, please watch this video here too ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html
That’s another way to make an external sequencer connection to the 2600. The 182 sequencer has a +5V Gate. Try both ways for the connection. The Behringer 2600 usually requires a +10V Gate, but depending on the 182 Trigger/Gate output it may work. If not then you need a Voltage Converter Module or you can also try to dabble with the 2600 Preamp to boost the signal. Make sure you watch my 2600 Beginner Tutorial as well. ruclips.net/video/CfezQunKlAE/видео.html
Hallo Ralph, ich habe mir vor zwei Wochen einen Behringer 2600 zugelegt und habe einen grossen Teil Deiner Tutorials angesehen und würde mich sehr über weitere freuen! Viele Grüsse Frank
Hallo Frank, vielen Dank! Heute geht ein weiteres Tutorial von mir online. Ich wünsche Dir viel Spass mit deinem 2600 Synth. Mit bestem Gruss, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl Danke schön Ralph, ich werde das verfolgen! 👍
@@frankknoche9162 Hallo Frank, und hier ist das neue Video ruclips.net/video/9luimTNk8mo/видео.html
Thanks for the great and very helpful vids, Ralph. One question: how would one go about syncing the Sample & Hold (INT CLOCK) to the master Ableton clock? What would be the protocol? Must one send CV via say, a Beatstep, and send a pulse to the INT CLOCK? If so, how would that be done exactly? Any advice much appreciated!
A Pulse external signal yields the best results. You have to plug it into the External Clock Input of the S&H. In this video here I was using the Sync Signal (it's a pulse) from the Korg Electribe to sync the S&H module of the 2600 Synth.
ruclips.net/video/VivHAH_g01g/видео.html
You may have to boost the external pulse signal to make it work. I have tutorials for this on my RUclips channel as well. Have fun and happy patching :-) Cheers, Ralph
That's cool, clear. Now is it possible to use CV from Keystep or many from Keystep Pro to control various control on ARP using those extra CV (so not only pitch/gate, replacing midi, but other stuff). I'm new into CV, but kinda feel it could be possible, how? TNX!
Yes, you can route the CV and Gate signals of the Keysto to any CV Control input of the B2600. If you need to duplicate CV and Gate signals from the Keystep then just use the multiple Jacks on the B2600 and/or additional multipliers.
@@RalphBaumgartl Thanks for reply Ralph! that sounds great. Please pardon my unawareness (very newbie to modular), can I dedicate KS/KSP CV out to plug into B2600/K2600 and control opening the Filter? (meaning other synth params oppose to "note" info cv/gate/pitch).
@@samprock The Pitch output of the KS is usually going to the KYBD CV inputs of the B2600 and the Gate output of the KS is usually supposed to trigger the envelopes. Make sure you also watch this video here: ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html
Thank you Ralph!!!!! it's great because for some reason, the midi in sometimes get stuck in a midi horror loop (because there is no loop.... it just get stuck; possibly a mistake of my own device while exploiting my poor 2600... but I am learning 🤓 )
Make sure to run the firmware update in case that you have the Behringer 2600! This may also solve some MIDI issues. Cheers, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl oh! That certainly could very well be. I will update it, thanks again Ralph 👍 👍
@@RalphBaumgartl It was that. With this synths, as I don't have them always on USB, I tend to forget about updates..... Reading the release to upgrade to 1.0..1 the whole note said: "1 Hanging notes; Optimize MIDI port data reception".
Fixed. Thanks again Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl Finally I went with the CVs and I kind of like it more because it is how the original was designed for..... I tried to connect a BeatStep Pro directly the Pitch to the ARP's KeybCV with an external passive multi (just one of those plastic cv port replicators that looks like an asterix) and didn't worked. I guess the ARP's MULT converts the BeatStep Pro voltage to what the ARP understands...... So, I use the plastic replicator and only one out from the ARPs MULT... and then to each OScillator... and works great. That leaves 2 empty but unusable ports, because they already contain the Pitch signal.... so the question:
Is there a way to Not use the MULT input on the ARP2600?? and just an external replicator? ...then I would be leaving the MULT empty to use on another patch.
@@MarcoPolux Just use Multipliers and/or stackable Patch cables if you don't want to use the MULT row on the 2600. I have been doing this on multiple occasions to split a pitch cv signal.
Are you saying there’s a switch on the 2600 to change the voltage for CV gate and pitch, or referencing the Keystep setting for changing those settings? I’m double checking. I’m having issues w the gate, but not pitch on mine. (Voice 2 set 1oct=1v, and gate to 12v).
Hi Steve, I am referring to the settings of the Arturia Keystep. You can change the Gate Signal behavior of the Kkeystep with the Midi Control Center Software. Greetings, Ralph
What about going full modular with the 2600 clone? Two or three external sequencers, direct audio out from the oscillators to other VCAs and filters? Something like that would be a baby Buchla.
Hi Phil, yes of course you can make the B2600 the core of a full modular setup. Anything goes....
Ralph thx for this video. i am not familiar with the 2600 but i recetly got one. so what i'm gonna do if i want to control each oscillator with GRP R 24 tremedous sequecer which has 3 sections with cv/gates? there is only one gate sigal available on 2600, right?? do i need to mult the gate myself to use each osci individually?? looking forward for some tipps. 🙏
There's only one VCF - VCA signal path on the 2600. You can route the VCO's separately through the VCF and VCA and then feed them separately into the mixer, but they are still going to be triggered by the same Gate. To have true independence you need external modules or 2600 Synth. Greetings, Ralph
Hi Ralph - tips are always welcome.
I suspect many would-be 2600 buyers are waiting to see what the differences are between B's two additional clones and also Korg's 2600m. I for one will be very interested to know if the Korg is worth 3x a Beringer... :-)
Hello Ian, thank you very much for your feedback! I think that it's a great thing that Behringer and Korg are introducing more versions of the 2600 to the market. I personally believe that the 2600 is one of the best Synths around to learn subtractive Synthesis. Have a nice weekend, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl I agree. I'm waiting to see which is the best buy. I'm hoping you will review the new models when they arrive.
@@IanWaugh Let's see whether I am going yo buy another one. Since I am buying all my Synths with my own money, I am unable to buy every 2600 clone that arrives at the market. 😉
@@RalphBaumgartl I appreciate that, Ralph. I'm sure reviews will appear across the internet but I do like and value your opinionn especially as you have an original.
Thank you for this. Coming from modular i was inserting the "gate cable" to the Gate In of the AR Env. I am still to figure tow to also trigger the ADSR now and is with this connection it behaves rather strange.
Hello Daniel, you may also want to watch this tutorial here. I will clarfy a few more things about the 2600 ADSR ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html
@@RalphBaumgartl thank you, really weird behaviour but awesome synth! I have been captivated for days now.
You are a blessing my friend. Thank you much Sir'...
Thank you! I am very glad you got something out of my video. Have a great day, Ralph
Thanks Ralf.
Why into the S&H clock and not the gate or trig in?
And can you check that the ADSR slider on the VCA only responds in the last 25% of its travel? It does on my B2600 and it’s a little annoying!
Hello Dan! The S&H Gate connection is working properly on both Synths, the ARP2600 and the Barp2600. When I go through the Gate input it is not working properly on either Synth. It seems as if the ADSR is not fully triggered. On the Barp2600 that’s maybe because of the Gate-In threshold of +4V. But that’s only my assumption. As to your other question, I haven’t experienced the ADSR/VCA issue when having the Keystep attached via Midi. And with the CV/Gate connection I have checked it yet…Have a good start in the new week! Cheers, Ralph
Hello Mr. Ralph Baumgartl. I have a question on the subject of Behringer 2600 and my question and: would it be possible to control the CV & Gate of my Behringer 2600 blue marvin with a Behringer odyssey or the only possibility of controlling it as in your video with a Arturia Keystep Thomann Edition? And for the Arturia Keystep 37 version, useful or useless for my 2600? Sincerely !
Yes, you can use the CV/Gate Out of the Behringer Odyssey to control the Behringer 2600. Moreover any Arturia Keystep can be used with the Behringer 2600 either via Midi or CV/Gate. Another option is the Behringer Swing. Greetings, Ralph
Hello from France. OK thanks for your answer . Sincerely .
These tutorials are very helpful, thanks!
Thanks for your feedback 🙏 Glad you like my tutorials.
Thank you for the tip love your channel cheers!!
Glad I could help you!
I'm curious: does using a passive mult for the oscillator pitch affect the pitch tracking? I was always told that for oscillators you need a buffered mult, not a passive one like you used here in the video. Does it still track 1v/Oct properly when you do it the way you did it in the video?
Hello, I haven't run into any issues with passive multipliers as long as I just duplicated or tripled/quadrupled a signal. But of course I would also use a buffered multiplier if I wanted to split a single CV output to something like 10 VCO's for instance.
Pluging the gate out from the controllilng keyboard into the GATE IN or TRIG IN or EXT CLK IN does not seem to work. Should not the gate also trigger these inputs? If not, what are they for? Thank you.
You have to use the Gate IN and Trig In simultaneously to make it work. Kindly watch my tutorial on this subject: ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html
Hello! I recently bought a B-2600. Wondering if you could tell me how I would patch that to my external modules? Maths, Rings, clouds to be specific.
There's no specific way to patch the B2600 with external modules. It also depends on the specific function of an external module. Modular Synthesis is freedom. There's no right or wrong way. It invites for experimentation. If you use the Clouds module you can feed Audio from the VCO's, VCF, VCA, Reverb etc of the B2600 into Clouds. Anything goes. Happy patching, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl thanks so much! Basically I don’t have an oscillator on my eurorack so I was hoping to use my b2600 as the main voice. I’m new to the patch world!
@@collapsibleentmt. Yes, you can go directly from the 2600 VCO's into other Euro Rack Modules. Have fun! Ralph
Hi Ralph, can you also use CV to modulate the VCF cutoff? Could this also be mapped to a Midi CC via the Midi to CV of the Keystep?
You can route the CV to any module of the 2600. There already is a pre-wired connection of the Keyboard CV controlling the frequency of the VCF.
Thank you,sir!
Sure 😃 I am glad you like it!
@@RalphBaumgartl Bless!
Guten Tag Lieber Ralph!!! Ich habe Keystep Pro mit 4 Gate Ausgange.Könnte ich die 4 GATEs in die 2600 verkabeln? Es wäre mit MULT? Oder geht es nicht? Danke im Voraus!!
Hi Geraldo, du kannst die verschiedenen Gate Signale überall dorthin schicken wo du willst. Abhänging vom Sound, den du erstellen willst. Und natürlich kannst du Gate Signale auch mit Multipliers duplizieren...
@@RalphBaumgartl Super! Danke für dein Schneller Antworte!
Very nice Ralph :) good bit of info :)
Thank Daren 🙏 Wishing you a good start into the new week!
Hi Ralph ! I have a question : how to use the gate inputs for AR and ADSR. I was trying to gate the envellopes separately. I thought to use these inputs but nothing happen...
Hi Jean, I have made a video about this very topic. Here's the link ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html
Thx a lot for your tips!
Thank you for watching 🙏 Glad you like my videos!
You put the blue one into the s&h… there is a hate trigger right next to it though? Whats that for? Any reason it’s not useful in this case? Thanks, great vids Ralph!
It's explained in this video here. Thanks for watching my content.
ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html
@@RalphBaumgartl Awesome thanks!
Thanks, dude. This is so useful. x
Glad it helped 👍
Thanks for the excellent video! I'm a confused noob, so excuse my ignorance...but I don't understand why you'd patch the gate into the sample and hold clock? When I do that and use the sequencer it works, but if using midi key input the notes sustain forever. Leaving the switch in the up position and plugging the gate patch cable into the 'gate in' jack on the ADSR seems to work the same, but cuts the notes off when released. Is there a reason for using the sample and hold?
Hello Scot! When using the Gate IN of the ADSR/AR you have to send a trigger to the Trigger IN as well. For S&H jack you only need one patch cable. Kindly watch my other video on this subject ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html
Hello Ralph, I will buy the keystep keyboard to sequence my future Behringer 2600. By the way, do you know the ASM Hydrasynth deluxe. Do you now this synthesizer ? If yes, tell me what think about it.
Hi Elie, I have never tried the ASM Hydrasynth. Thus I cannot comment on it. Greetings, Ralph
i want to control the Behringer 2600 via cv and gate using the Matriarch to control it. Wanted to "dip" the waters and see how exactly the Matriarch can function as a modular hub before adding more modules. I did exactly the same as shown in this tutorial, step by step - but while i can trigger notes (gate to amp envelope via the s&h input with the switch down, and cv to mults to the oscillators) - it doesn't seem to also trigger the filter envelope - although it's supposed to. So i'm not sure what i'm missing.
Is it something i might have missed on the Matriarch? Some kind of global parameter i need to change?
Or is it something i might have missed on the Behringer 2600?
Or perhaps haven't missed anything and this might indicate that something is faulty? Happy for some help and insight
Hello Tzachi, in the Global Settings of the Matriarch set GATE OUTPUT to +10V and make sure you also set the CV Output to 0V to +10V. Please bear in mind that I am not very familiar with the Moog Matriarch because I don’t own one. Greetings, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl solved! It appears that the default output voltage on the Matriarch is 5V so i changed the settings to 10V and now ot works! Now i'm trying to figure out how to control pitch bend. I imagine originally there was some kind of connection between the arp 2600 kb to the synth module including pitch bend. But how to do this on the Behringer using an external keyboard?
@Tzachi Keinan Glad you got it working. The 2600 Synth requires a +10V Gate. Don't forget to set CV according to the procedure mentioned in my previous comment. The 2600 requires 0 to 10V CV (1 Volt per Octave). Happy patching, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl
Yeah, thanks, it works! But how can i transmit pitch bend via cv/gate? (From my matriarch or any other external keyboard, using cv)
I'm having trouble getting my Arturia Keystep to sync to my drum machine's midi clock. I have the Keystep hooked up to the BARP 2600 via CV. I have the rear pins set to 'MIDI'. I also have the Boss DR 770 drum machine set to MIDI OUT feeding to the Keystep MIDI IN....when I try to play an arpegiation, or sequence.....nothing happens. Any guidance would be appreciated.
Hi Erik, make sure you set the Midi channels correctly on all three devices. You have to decide which device is the Midi Master device which will send the clock to the other devices (midi slaves). The midi slaves must be set to receive an outside midi clock. Please bear in mind that you can also use a DAW as Master device to send a midi clock. Hope that helps. Greetings, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl Vielen Dank Ralph! Alles gut. Die Problem war ein schlecht MIDI Kable. Ich ersetze, und....Die BARB 2600 ist sehr schöne!
@@erikmartin3786 glad you got it solved
Another question came into my mind: I thought the (original) ARP 2600 needs at lease a voltage of 12V to trigger the envelopes and only some external Sequencers (like the Doepfer Dark Time) can be effectively used to operate with the ARP. So I expect that the Keystep only works with the ARP when the trigger set to 12V, correct?
That's exactly what I thought! But I also set the Arturia Keystep trigger to 5V and it worked! 12V is working anyway! That is my usual setting when connecting the Keystep to the ARP 2600.
@@RalphBaumgartl Hi Ralph! Does your ARP have a Gate booster mod? I have an ARP 2600 FS and a Korg SQ-64 sequencer, and the 10V V-Trig Gate does not seem to be enough to trigger the S/H GATE... Cheers!
@@vincewizz8534 Hello Vince, I am not using any signal booster. The Keystep let's you set the Gate to 5V and 12V. I have tested both gate voltages on the ARP and the Behringer. Both gate voltages work on either Synth. I am going to upload another tutorial about the Envelopes of the Barp and ARP 2600. Please check it out when it is online. You may find further information that helps you with own your individual setup. Greetings, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl ADSR is the problem. Works only with 12V.! Can I damage the input with to high voltage?
What is the usage of the KEYB CV in the FM control area?
When you connect a MIDI controller to the B2600 the Pitch is sent to the VCO's internally. When you connect a Keyboard or Sequencer to B2600 via CV and Gate, you have to plug the Pitch (CV) signal into KEYB CV slots of the VCO's. This will break the internal Pitch connection and replace it with the CV signal. Greetings, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl Thanks a lot for your crystal clear explanations, by the way the video is really well done about those explanations. My question was about the "other" KEYB CV that you find below the KEYB CV of VCO1. Just below the KEYB CV entry of VCO 1, you have 4 plugs : TRIG OUT, UPPER VOICE, GATE OUT and.... KEYB CV ! My question was about that one, the manual not being very clear about it, what is the usage of that "other" KEYB CV? The receipt you show works perfectly, and needs to use the MULT to split the signal into the KEYB CV of each oscillator. I thought the other KEYB CV I mention here above would have an effect on all the oscillators, but this is not the case. In fact, I don't understand what is the usage of that "other" KEYB CV I menton here above (near TRIG OUT, UPPER VOICE, GATE OUT section)... :-)
Your videos are wonderful and very informative. I have both the Behringer Odyssey and the 2600, and had hoped to link them and incorporate the keyboard, sequencer, and arpeggiator of the Odyssey, to trigger the 2600. I tried the gate out to S&H, as in your video, but that doesn't work. And there is no audio out, except 1/4 inch jack for output to an amp. Any ideas? Many thanks! Gelon
Hello Gelon, is it working when you play the keyboard or is the problem only there when you use the Odyssey Sequencer?
1. make sure the S&H gate switch is down to activate the input
2. If the Gate voltage of the Odyssey is below 5V it's probably not working.
3. Try the procedure that I describe in this video here
ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html
Greetings, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl thanks so much for your quick reply. I have no idea about the voltage of the Odyssey output. Yes. The SH setting is as you describe. No, there is no response from the keyboard or sequencer.
@@Gelon01 try the procedure from the other video. Use the Gate Out and Trig Out from the Odyssey and plug it into the Gate In and Trig In on the 2600. Follow the procedure from my video.
@@RalphBaumgartl okay. That works, but only when I also patch CV out from the Odyssey to keyboard CV on oscillator 2 on the 2600. It does not work with O 1 or 3. Otherwise I could multi the CV to all 3 oscillators. And the envelope generators don't function. Strange... But some progress has been made.
Ralph, I just checked and the trigger and gate outputs on the Odyssey are +10V. So that shouldn't be the problem. Or do I need at least 12V? And thanks so much for your help! I'll experiment further; if I get it sorted, I'll let you know.
Hey, Ralph. Love your videos. Thank you. Question: can you connect a keyboard through the module on the bottom left of the B2600, or does that just route the signal elsewhere?
Hello Francis, what module are you referring too? You usually connect a keyboard via Midi or a CV/Gate connection.
@@RalphBaumgartl Hi, I don’t have one of these yet, but I’ve ordered one. In pictures I’ve seen what appears to be a CV input for a keyboard on the bottom left. It’s next to the LFO, and the portamento slider.
@@Franciskev2 These are the Trigger, Gate and CV Outputs when you connect for instance a midi keyboard. When you receive your 2600 unit, make sure you watch my Beginner tutorial:
ruclips.net/video/CfezQunKlAE/видео.html
Ralph does it respond to changing octaves?
Yes it does! But it depends on the features of the controller you want to connect.
Thanks a lot Ralph, still waiting for my Arp, but I have one question, I have the Matrix Brute from Aturia, you stated, that CV out from your keyboard are connected to the Arp, I have on the Matrix two Pitch out (VCO 1 and 2), how should I connected it to the Arp? Thanks a lot for your help. regards Dirk Bartmann
Hello Dirk, I don't know the Matrix Brute at all. I imagine that if VCO one and two are tuned the same way, you can use either Pitch-out. Look it up in the manual how you can adjust the Pitch outputs on the Matrix Brute and do some trial and error testing. Greetings, Talph
@@RalphBaumgartl Thank you so much for your quick response!!! Alles Gute- Gruß Dirk
Just thinking, you can route VCO 1 and 2 to different VCO's on the Behringer 2600. That gives you many options!
@@RalphBaumgartl Wonderful, thanks a lot for your time, I will try it out, all the best-Dirk
Since the keystep has a MIDI out anyway, my interest would be to use it to control other settings, such as filter, while I’m controlling the pitch via MIDI, or possibly using it for one oscillator and controlling the other(s) via MIDI to get a small bit of polyphony. Is this possible using both CV and MIDI simultaneously?
Yes, it can be used simultaneously But the Behringer 2600 manual doesn't say anything about Midi CC.
@@RalphBaumgartl Yes, the MIDI implementation on the 2600 is bare bones. I use a LinnStrument to control mine which allows me to easily and accurately glide between pitches, but outside of finger vibrato, there is little else I can do with the controller, however, if I can use a keystep via CV to further control dynamics, or filters, or a 2nd voice at the same time, then it’s worth buying one.
@@mudsharkbytes With the Keystep you could use Midi for notes and CV/Gate to module various modules of the B2600. The B2600 has a duophonic mode which can be used by just connecting a Midi controller. Nevertheless you should read up on all the features of the Keystep before you commit yourself to it. Just to make sure it's what you are looking for.
@@RalphBaumgartlI’ve needed a replacement for my Korg microKontrol for some time now as it’s not supported very well by much of anything these days anyway, and Sweetwater has knocked the price down some so I can’t see a downside. If it didn’t have the CV outputs, which I can also use with my Neutron, I probably wouldn’t’ve bought one.
@@mudsharkbytes Keystep is a good choice anyway. You can also use in new configurations you may come up with....
I'm gaining a great deal from your tutorials Ralph. Many thanks! Following this one: I can't get a one octave interval by playing an octave on the keyboard...it's more like a 4th or 5th. I tried a few different keyboards which send 1v/oct. Any advice appreciated.
Hello Ian, are you using a Barp or Arp? What keyboard are you using and how is it connected to the 2600?
@@RalphBaumgartl Hi Ralph, thanks for your reply. I'm using a Barp, with a keystep: connected the same as your tutorial: CV out to 2600 Osc's Kybd CV in, Gate out to AR Gate, or via SH clock in (switch down). I also tried CV-ing it from a Poly D and from a Roland SH 101, with the same results...playing an octave sounds like a 4th or 5th. This sounds similar to playing my EMS synthi (1.3 V/Oct, so doesn't play octaves without scaling).
Try to use the VCO's individually. If they hold the tune then there might be a problem with the multiple jacks. There could be a cable problem as well. If one VCO doesn't hold the pitch when you check it individually then there might be a problem with the CV input....
@@RalphBaumgartl Solved! It was a cable problem. That was the last thing I would have suspected. Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Glad you sorted it out!
This is how I control my 2600m with my ARP Solus to use its keyboard, by just patching the Solus Gate to the S&H gate. However I also have a Trigger output on my Solus, but when I try to patch the Gate to the other input and the Trigger to its input (with switch in the proper position) I get nothing. Have you tried using a similar synth like an Odyssey to control a 2600 via CV/gate/trig? I’m not sure what I’m missing unless my Trig output is broken because the voltages should match, and I know Korg even lowered the need gate voltage in the 2600m. Thanks for any help, great videos
Possibly the the Trigger/Gate signal needs to be boosted a bit to make it work. I have made two tutorials about this issue. Kindly try the methods as explained in my videos. Personally I have connected several of my analog Synths to the 2600 via CV/Gate/Trigger and always managed to make it work.
ruclips.net/video/-kO1BLgpBE8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/FOMxUmWtEyM/видео.html
Greetings, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl thanks I watched those and they’re great tutorials but nothing has worked except just the single ARP Solus gate to S&H Gate input. The manual for my Korg 2600 M says the other outputs are gate & trig outputs from the connected MIDI controller. However I only use the CV/Gate from the Solus. Furthermore the original manual for the Solus says it’s it putting +12v from each the gate & trig and that it can be especially used as the master controller for other ARPs including 2600. I tried boosting the trig with the preamp to no-avail. I’ll need to locate my multi-meter to verify the trigger actually works I suppose. But it seems that the Behringer labels these jacks as Gate & Trig “in”, is that correct? And on your vintage 2600 you said this is how it had to be connected I believe? If my trigger is working then perhaps this is another change to the Korg reissue, making it only a voltage output from MIDI gate/trig. Thanks for the reply and helpful information.
@@AngeloSantelliMusic I thought you were using the Behringer 2600. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I have never used the Korg 2600. Neither the FS nor the M version. On the Behringer 2600 the slots you are talking about are "Inputs". The (Midi Keyboard) CV, Gate and Trigger Outputs of the B2600 are located in the lower left corner. The CV/Gate/Trigger voltage of the Solus is perfect for the 2600 Synth. Just use the S&H Clock (Gate) slot when connecting the Solus to the 2600. Greetings, Ralph
@@RalphBaumgartl oh ok, thanks Ralph yes and the Gate from the Solus to 2600m S&H clock gate works perfectly, I just found no where to put the Trigger from the Solus, which means I can’t get proper multi-trigger as I understand. My Solus has switched for Single/Multiple/Auto but that doesn’t seem to affect the CV/Gate out and the 2600 M has hidden features to change single/multiple and last or lowest note priority but I think they may be for midi control. It just seems like the 2600 isn’t re-triggering exactly as the Solus does, which gives those iconic ARP bass sounds. I’ll have to experiment some more but it still sounds great. Anyway I really appreciate all the replies and useful information. Have a good evening!
@@AngeloSantelliMusic For proper multi trigger it's probably best to connect a Midi Keyboard to the Korg 2600. I imagine it works like the Behringer 2600 where you can set the Keyboard Trigger modes on the device itself. Wish you a good evening too.
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Hi Eddy, glad you like it! Greetings, Ralph
Thank you Ralph
I should want to connect my Arturia Keystep Pro to my Berhinger 2600
KSP is four independent tracks, is it possible to send three of them gates separately to the each VCO of the 2600 ?
Is their a tric ?
There's only one Gate - VCF - VCA signal path for all three VCO's of the 2600. But of course you can send three different CV signals to the individual VCO's respectively but they share the same Gate signal path.
@@RalphBaumgartl
Thank you for your rapid answer Ralph
Hi Ralph, can the 2600 react to any mod wheel mouvement??
Yes, it can! But it requires some additional patching depending on what you want to do. But for simplicity I would go via Midi if you want to use the modulation pads of the Keystep. Please note that I was using the Keystep to simulate a hardware sequencer, not a CV/Gate keyboard controller.
@@RalphBaumgartl thank you ralph . It was for a classical use of the modwheel to modulate the vcos sounds
@@JUPITERGANG use the mod out of the Keystep and on the Behringer the Ring Modulator DC and the LFO....
Hello Ralph,
I made exactly the same CV connections you made on this video.
One limitation, the SQ1 sequencer works properly, but unfortunately I could not find a way to modify the pitch of the sequence with the keyboard.
Is this a limitation of the Behringer 2600 ?
Hi Amine, I have no experience with the SQ1 sequencer. From my experience with other sequencers there might be a CV plus input which you connect with the CV out of the keyboard.
@@RalphBaumgartl Hello Ralph, Thank you very much for your answer. Very helpful.
Could you kindly try to play the sequence with your Arturia Keystep keyboard ? I am not sure if the sequence will be transposed according to the notes played on the keystep.
@@amineberradaehl I usually connect the Keystep to the B2600 via Midi. You can adjust the Keystep settings via the app on a Mac or PC.
You are the best Thank you!! I have the Odyssey and the BR2600! Didn't know how to hook them up!
my first modular synth!
Edit- The Odyssey doesn't have pitch on the back just
Cv in , Cv Out
Gate in, Gate out
Trigger in, Trigger out
it works but I can't control the ADSR at all can anyone help!
Hi Nicholas, I assume you want to use the keyboard of the Odyssey to control the B2600 as well. For Portamento you have to use Lag of the Voltage Processor ruclips.net/video/5pkO7Yiffac/видео.html
And here's another way to connect to the B2600 via CV/Gate ruclips.net/video/5pkO7Yiffac/видео.html
Greetings, Ralph
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your support 🙏 I am very glad that you got something out of my tutorial. Best regards, Ralph
Why override SH input and not using the GATE or TRIGGER inputs + the switch?
On the B2600 you have to send a Gate and Trigger signal simultaneously to make it work. I explain it in this video here ruclips.net/video/MTf10H0KWDU/видео.html