Which is probably why the Greek and he are retired in the Bahamas or Lake Como in a beachfront mansion, while Marlo is probably locked away with Avon or dead.
Jake Hopper This is why AA drug dealers can't win. The addicts don't have any rules. The dealer knows the supply personally to the extent that he shows respect. The connect is willing to pit the suppliers against each other for nothing more than convenience.
@@printezstroman Eh kinda. There's a couple scenes that allude to the two of them being in a 50/50 relationship. More so they were Marlo looking to Chris not for approval, but if something needed to be done.
It’s why I find it amusing when Instagram thots and the folks who are stilll growing and learning say shit like ‘’I hate normal. Normal is boring. I like weird. I like when things aren’t the same. I like not knowing what to do tomorrow. I like when things aren’t the same. Change it up.’’
@@positivemanifestations3247 nah man Avon was just as ruthless thats why he only sold Joe's head for 100k. Avon would have done the same eventually because he did just as much shady shit as Marlo to get to the top. Plenty innocent witnesses, plenty of citizens dead just to clean up when the heat was on. The game is game and Avon/Marlo played it best.
That line and "hopper wanna hear a pop, see the damage you know" are terrifying. The ugliest of human actions can be explained so simply. And its some peoples daily world in that terrifying simplicity. There's no justice or plan or fairness. Just the game.
A lot of the characters that were at Marlos level or higher didn't respect him. Its the attention to detail that makes The Wire a great show. You can watch the clips a 100 times and you notice 100 additional things.
No they respected & feared Marlo it was Marlo who ran New York out of East Baltimore. Lol East Baltimore was scared to muscle up for their territory. There's co-op scene when they were all talking about how Marlo gets rid of his bodies they respected that. That's when fat face Rick said I like to see Marlo with us on that then Prop Joe came up with the idea of getting Omar to rob the cars game to lure Marlo in. Another co-op scene Marlo told folks to "muthafuckas shut the fuck up I'm tired of hearing ya'll shit" after that not 1 single gangsta in that room said a word or attempted to check Marlo. I think Slim Charles & Cheese was the only 2 ppl in the room who wasn't scared of Marlo now war wise Marlo would have killed Cheese with no problem Cheese wasn't disciplined at all but we seen Slim Charles go up against Marlo when he was with Avon. But all & all they most definitely respected Marlo they knew he was with the dumb shit he went up against Avon without hesitation yea Avon didn't have Weebay Stinkum or Bird not even Eggy Mule & Shorty Boyd got his whole ack up but none the less he went up against the crown without a second guess. Marlo reminds me of Robert Baratheon love the war but was a shit King.
@@Rahim.ali80 no man you missed all the point. They were scared of him and thats why no one talked. At the end of the show, because of marlos ignorant ways of trying to have a name he realised he dont have no reputation or name out there in the streets. People like omar, avon and joe will live on but not some dipshit like marlo.
@@Rahim.ali80 The gist of Marlo's character is that he is incredibly good at earning "respect" through terrorizing people weaker than him, but his strategy immediately falls apart the moment he can't just have Chris and Snoop assassinate his problems, and it frustrates him to no end. The poker scene and his ending at the society party really show this. He's a nightmare for anyone involved in the street level drug game, but when he's around connected people who make him feel powerless he immediately goes out to bully people he knows can't stand up to him
He learned it all by watching what happens if you don't control your emotions as he went up the ranks and even learned something new from Prop Joe maybe. Sometimes the experiences of others is the best teacher and you dodge some bullets.....
@@codyvandal2860 Well, the CIA is a spy agency. The whole point of a spy agency is to...commit crimes in other countries. So that'd make them(and basically any other spy agency) an..."international crime syndicate".
@@RaptorJesus you're not wrong about the Greeks but the whole point of a spy agency first and foremost is to gather intelligent and intercept information :)
It's hard to imagine Marlo on vacation, like he doesn't even seem to enjoy all the money he makes. I feel like he just goes home and stares at the wall unblinking
Omar wasn’t really on Marlo’s mind. He was feeling buoyant and happy, feeling validated by the Greeks and the weight of the crown. However, Chris knew the danger Omar represented and his life was in danger. Chris was feeling the urgency of the moment, while Marlo had his mind on ‘AC’. Perhaps if Chris kept Marlo informed about the mayhem Omar was causing their crew and calling out Marlo’s name, Marlo would have been in war-mode as well. But without that intel, he had a false sense of security thinking it was time to enjoy some good times at AC, rather then realizing he had stirred up a hornets nest with Omar and the Wire was starting close in around him. In some respects, Marlo and his “crown”, didn’t have a clue. Very un-Avon like, who would have smelled all these things in the wind, intel or no intel.
@@anantsharma7955 Avon knows a soldier when he sees them. _"Game recognize game"_ as the saying goes. Avon knows that once you put a gun on a soldier that you better finish that soldier off right then and there. Otherwise, the soldier will come back at you, *_guaranteed._*
he was i can quote from chris to marlo. "they saying omar can't be got" chris didn't want to go up against omar. he convinced marlo to put a bounty up because chris knew he couldn't get him and he would appear weak
There are many things I don't understand in the relationship between Chris and Marlo. When Omar is doing Marlo's name dirty, Chris tells the crew they shouldn't brief Marlo "Man's got enough on his mind". That's Chris taking a decision about what the boss should know and what not. Then, when Marlo shoots Devonne, Chris pats him on the back, like a kingpin soothing a novice. And in this scene, Marlo wants to celebrate his success and Chris needs to remind him of the biggest risk. It's three times Chris imposes himself. He's a ruthless killer, a savvy mind, and has the aura of the ultimate boss. Yet he's playing second man to Marlo, who always comes across as playing above his league and who can only pull that off thanks to his 2nd man. Marlo's ruthlessness was by proxy. It was probably meant to be portrayed this way, but I've never understood why.
Jasper Aquino This was 2006-2008 , cell phones were definitely apart of social culture then. Not as big as most people don't use them as much but they were pretty normalized by then.[I had a cell phone when i was 14 back in 2007]
What the Greek liked about Marlo was his quiet calm yet alert personality. His determination and ruthless nature. I think he saw a bit of himself in him.
He had a plan, "this town is full of boys that wore the crown", "the point is, its my time now". He got it, he managed to outplay the best of them, in the person of Joe, and now he was in direct contact with the main source of drugs in Baltimore. To go even further, we can see that the only person Marlo is ever talk in a friendly, personal and human like form was Slim Charles, the best muscle out there. A cold killer, remember how he killed Cheese. Marlo knew that Slim will never be impressed by his roughness, and allways called him, Slim and tall man, like they were buddies. Because in front of Slim, he could never keep up the cyborg apperance, Slim could see right trough him.
@@cRobbone88 I agree with the first part but not the second. Marlo is wearing the crown and he's in a good mood because this is literally his dream come to fruition and it's a beautiful day. He is friendly with Chris, his second. However, remember his thing about names and how he disrespects Bodie by calling him by the wrong name. Him calling Slim Tall Man is not a sign of respect, it's actually a sign of disrespect because of how informal it is. Yes, Slim and others saw through him but that's not actually difficult because Marlo was never actually hiding his ambitions. Prop Joe just overplayed his hand and got betrayed by Cheese.
@@PoweredByAudio Spiros on the phone: "The guy killed 16 Chechen rebels. He was in the interior ministry" *In AC Marlo to Chris: "You not gonna believe this. He dropped 16 Czechoslovakians. M'fer was an interior decorator!" Chris: "His house looked like shit"
@@Vercingetorix.Rising makes sense for me: chris did mike's dad like he been there before. I imagine the dude was like military minded and marlo found out the shit, got a gun and killed him right in front of chris, because he could be running his own crew easily but he got more loyalty to marlo than string did to avon. marlo had to have have done something like that to make a scary nigga like chris feel underneath him.
I mean, Chris wasn’t really a street gangster compared to the others tbh. To him it seemed more like a job than a lifestyle, no pleasure in the game, it was just his 9-5
@@jonhtsoncurk7009 I disagree, he seems indifferent to it, oftentimes trying to soothe the victim. It’s Snoop and Marlo who obviously like the killing.
@@alexjames4770 I think you could say he enjoyed it in the sense that anyone enjoys something they're *good* at. I see his attempts at soothing his victims to be a courtesy to them, it's not personal, just the job. Except, you know, the guy who was touching the kids. He enjoyed and savoured every little moment of that.
I never liked Marlo. Not just because he killed Bodie but because he didn't care about anything but his name. However. I had to respect the fact that he was serious, cold and professional at all times. He was good for the Greeks. He'd never talk too much, he was careful, and he wanted to make money. Forget everything else. Damn great acting by him.
Well, what do you mean by "like?" Although people are all complex and the line between right and wrong is often unclear, Marlo is- by all accounts- a violent, murderous criminal who preys upon the weak and the innocent. He's a bad guy. Does he have a moral code? Yes. Is he a competent kingpin? Certainly. Does Jamie Hector put on a stellar performance as Marlo- is Marlo an interesting character? Absolutely. So what is there to not like? You want every criminal on the show to be like Avon, Prop Joe, Omar, or Brother Mouzone? Or, do you want a cast full of different personalities? You need guys like Stringer and Marlo to tell the full story.
@@macnolds4145 i like marlo bc he is by far the most interesting character. he has little to no backstory. like he just spawned and just started having his way
@@macnolds4145 by like meaning hes nothing to like and the more I think about neither was Avon. Most dont realize Avon and Marlo are so alike! Now Prop could be liked because while yes he definitely was conniving he all and all stayed out the way and was never with the violence. Only person in the underworld side to me that was likeable was Omar. Mans man in every way.
I love how the meeting starts on the subject of Joe precisely because the Greeks agreeing to meet with Marlo was basically the green light to kill Joe. The Greeks probably weren't even told Joe was dead, they just assumed. It's all so cold.
The greeks knew what was going on between everybody,they didn't care nor get involved just wanted a dependable partner to fill Joe place.the greeks saw that marlo was the new king soon & he checked out & passed otherwise the greeks would not meet with him, their organization seemed bigger & more sophisticated structured than marlo & barksdale,their not going to just do business with any drug dealer recommended by their former enforcer in prison who was the only one arrested in earlier seasons of show.They left $50 million in drugs sit on dock to be seized & the old man said something like " we got plenty more", thats a organization thats well financed that can take such losses.with the greeks in with the FBI i can't see how they wouldnt know what their partners in all areas of crime were doing for the security of their own organization, remember proposition Joe wasn't the greeks only partner. They supplied everything to criminal organizations,including women trafficking if you remember that episode of the bodies found in shipping container.
@@Waltherppk78 They do speak Greek and enjoy Greek food so I always assumed Greek Cypriot, technically not Greek but still culturally Greek. My second guess would be Macedonian for similar reasons. If not either of those then maybe Armenian. They definitely were not Russian.
It's amazing to realize that Marlo despite his street Savvy and ruthlessness, he still has that corner boy mentality that never grew beyond that. The Greek and his associates understand the wider picture. It wouldn't surprise me that Marlo is just a small bit of change for them and not the whole pot.
nah he was showing him the clock maneuver (how to setup for meets) marlo isnt retarded he knows what a text message is, remember iin a later scene lester freamon has marlos phone and the big clock and waves it at marlo as if to tell him " i broke your code, your secret" in this scene is Spiro showing marlo how they setup meets, without any words or voice messages
Both, actually. Remember Marlo was already working the connect before he killed Joe. Once Cheese put him up on all the side deals he cut with Omar, if there was any hesitation to kill Joe due to sentiment was dead at that point. Remember also when Joe tried to bargain for his life, Marlo says something in the order of, "Joe you'll be up to mischief in no time". Brilliant writing.
It was brilliant writing, but it had moments where it may have outsmarted itself. I felt Marlo would have been a dead man walking after running aground,and getting locked up. The Greek and Vondas would have saw to that. They killed the Dock Chief for less. Marlo can breach their entire operation. They would have killed this guy and his crew the moment they got the window.
Kawan Woodley he killed him for the plug. I dont recall marlo finding out about joe setting that up. Furthermore as long as joe was alive he was going to (stay) the greeks primary distributor. They only considered marlo as a back up insurance policy incase something happened to joe which (marlo conviced them of). So he had to kill him for the plug.
This scene is funny because it looked like spiro's is giving marlo a tutorial on how to use a mobile phone like he's old and has never used one before 😂
I figure he was using something that was either encrypted or deceptive for communication. he tells him to use the phone for things a normal person would use a cellphone for, but shows something for doing business on it.
Spiros is telling him to talk about normal stuff on the phone since it's part of a cover. If no one knows him, they'll move on. The problem is that, unlike Spiros, Marlo is already known.
Always sucked that the Greeks never got caught. They were so close in season 2 with the whole Sobotka thing. A loose end but I guess that's just the nature of international criminals who can use foreign laws to vanish at a moments notice.
I like the scene with Avon & Stringer Bell on the roof. 2 friends discussing their childhoods not knowing that they're both setting each other up. This scene is good too
Did Marlo ever get his trip to Atlantic City, he had asked and hinted to Chris a few times that he eagerly wanted to go to AC but Chris never really agreed at any time. Hmm I wonder if Marlo is still asking Chris to go with him to AC to this day.
The Greeks loved Joe makes me wonder was that-a-way to set Marlo up and get revenge for him killing Joe was by giving him the phones..because that was his downfall..
0:36-0:40 Just shows you the pecking order and food chain of the drug business. You get that feeling that spiros and the greek are nothing to be fucked with.
Did Spiros throw in a charger for that or was he letting Lo deal with that himself? Also what the hell could've provoked this reaction is beyond me.....
When you grow up in a certain environment, you learn and think the world is that way. Either rich or poor, you are a product of the environment you grow up in. Remember the first time we see Marlo, ghosting, just like Bubbles says it, not even talking on the phone with the boys. Then came Joe and tryied to "civilise", bring him up and broader his horizon, "i dont talk about business on the phone, Joe taught me that". And now, somebody else, a new environment in wich Marlo has to adapt quick, shows him that the phone is something you can use in your advantage. Something new for him, something that he wasnt aware of. Hance the surprise.
@@cRobbone88 you made no sense, b.... Lol.. dude was asking about what Spiros shows Marlo on the phone-- either a photo or some way to circumvent the cellphone tracking feature in that phone.... who knows... we do know it ain't shit bout what u typed lol
I felt like this was just inserted for Freamon to have an easy chance to catch Marlo for to wrap things up. I can't imagine Joe agreeing to contact the Greeks in the same way, & if he had he'd have been caught a long time ago!
The Greek is an ethnic Greek. Perhaps a Greek Cypriot, Albanian of Greek descent, Pontic Greek or Serbian of Greek descent. He spoke fluent Greek, read Greek newspapers, listened to Greek music and refers to Cyprus when he kills the Turkish sailor early in season 2.
That had so much respect or fear of Omar that they really thought Omar was going to pop up in Atlantic City and gun them both down..........on one leg 😕
jxsilicon9 Haha that isn't what is being portrayed here though. The Greeks run Baltimore and the ghetto drug dealers like Avon and Marlo are just pawns. The Greeks The are most likely former Mossaud agents with a connection from Afghanistan and ties to Russian organized crime. Baltimore doesn't have a big Hispanic community so the cartels presence is less than in other large cities. No one is arguing that the Sinola Cartel isn't powerful. It just is not in Baltimore in the Wire. And you do realize that Columbia still produces the Cocaine and Heroin then sells it to the Mexicans who then take all the risk and get the bad publicity. So Ochoa is probably still the overall king in the real world. Using the Mexicans as front men just like he did with Escobar.
Look, Frank Lucas was the only 1 getting it himself no middle man just paid his bro-in-law for transportation but he was getting it from the source...... then he was the source in damn there 3 to 4 states maybe more lls.
How do you know Spiros was Greek? All those passports and false identities. Hell, he could be German for all we know. The only thing indisputable is that he's European.
The Greek and Spiros were ethnic Greeks. The writer of the show is Greek, east Baltimore has a large Greek population, and the only reason "I'm not even Greek" was included was because Greek American lawyers petitioned the show not to portray Greeks in a bad light so they added those lines in. The writer was pissed that they did this. So they 100% were Greek.
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“My name is not my name” meets “My name is my name”…
I love this show
Damn that’s deep
GREAT CATCH
Damn smart asf
Which is probably why the Greek and he are retired in the Bahamas or Lake Como in a beachfront mansion, while Marlo is probably locked away with Avon or dead.
Lol.
the greeks were the most underrated set in this entire series. perfect mysterious high level crew.
they weren't
Agreed, they were the obvious higher crime level where the money always goes. Keyword being "obvious".
the chain goes both ways
Jake Hopper This is why AA drug dealers can't win. The addicts don't have any rules. The dealer knows the supply personally to the extent that he shows respect. The connect is willing to pit the suppliers against each other for nothing more than convenience.
They for sure dealt with tony soprano or johhny sac somewhere down the line.
Spiros showed Marlo how to make emojis
Ciaran Foy he showed him a dickpic
@@critiqueall9088 smh
@@critiqueall9088 😂😂😂
Critique ALL hahahahahaha
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spiros is so damn well played
+johnson “mp” donson Hobbs from Invisible Man. Totally different character. Such an underrated actor.
Ye he played in Entourage f.e. too
He was also had a recurring role on NYPD Blue, a great actor
+johnson donson
And he played in True Detective as Police chief...
Dude was also a teacher in everybody hated chris
“Man overcame his grief”
Nick M That was powerful line low key
Cold blooded!!!
Business over feelings
It’s funny to realize marlo was legitimately the happiest we’ve ever seen on the show. Chris had to bring him back to reality.
Chris is the power behind the throne, I've always said that.
@@printezstroman he was the muscle
@@printezstroman Marlo was the power. He was diabolical and violent.
@@printezstroman Eh kinda. There's a couple scenes that allude to the two of them being in a 50/50 relationship. More so they were Marlo looking to Chris not for approval, but if something needed to be done.
50 cent little evil brother
''In business, in life, what you learn to appreciate the most is a dependable man. One day same as the next.'' - Spiros Vondas
Damn straight.
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It’s why I find it amusing when Instagram thots and the folks who are stilll growing and learning say shit like ‘’I hate normal. Normal is boring. I like weird. I like when things aren’t the same. I like not knowing what to do tomorrow. I like when things aren’t the same. Change it up.’’
My man Francisco killing it with the quote. Damn straight indeed. ✊
@@steverogers7601 In some cases, yes. But not all.
@@steverogers7601 okay incel.
"Meanwhile, we go on." Truer words were never spoken. Life goes on... with or without you.
"man overcame his grief"
That shit is truer than anything else
Marlo is the worst kind of human.
@@positivemanifestations3247 yes like Pablo Escobar
@@positivemanifestations3247 nah man Avon was just as ruthless thats why he only sold Joe's head for 100k. Avon would have done the same eventually because he did just as much shady shit as Marlo to get to the top. Plenty innocent witnesses, plenty of citizens dead just to clean up when the heat was on. The game is game and Avon/Marlo played it best.
"tomorrow ain't promised to no one. Meanwhile, we go on." Damn
Simon Carlile simple as that ....
That line and "hopper wanna hear a pop, see the damage you know" are terrifying. The ugliest of human actions can be explained so simply. And its some peoples daily world in that terrifying simplicity. There's no justice or plan or fairness. Just the game.
Marlo walks like the video game character from gta San Andreas lol
lol
more like jar jar binks
Ha!
AerionMagnus more like your mother.
ThatSounds AboutRight yo got defensive😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A lot of the characters that were at Marlos level or higher didn't respect him. Its the attention to detail that makes The Wire a great show. You can watch the clips a 100 times and you notice 100 additional things.
No they respected & feared Marlo it was Marlo who ran New York out of East Baltimore. Lol East Baltimore was scared to muscle up for their territory. There's co-op scene when they were all talking about how Marlo gets rid of his bodies they respected that. That's when fat face Rick said I like to see Marlo with us on that then Prop Joe came up with the idea of getting Omar to rob the cars game to lure Marlo in. Another co-op scene Marlo told folks to "muthafuckas shut the fuck up I'm tired of hearing ya'll shit" after that not 1 single gangsta in that room said a word or attempted to check Marlo. I think Slim Charles & Cheese was the only 2 ppl in the room who wasn't scared of Marlo now war wise Marlo would have killed Cheese with no problem Cheese wasn't disciplined at all but we seen Slim Charles go up against Marlo when he was with Avon. But all & all they most definitely respected Marlo they knew he was with the dumb shit he went up against Avon without hesitation yea Avon didn't have Weebay Stinkum or Bird not even Eggy Mule & Shorty Boyd got his whole ack up but none the less he went up against the crown without a second guess. Marlo reminds me of Robert Baratheon love the war but was a shit King.
They respected him he was young & eager he was just bat shit crazy killing everything all the time so they had to watch him
You don't know the difference between not having respect and discontent but that's okay
@@Rahim.ali80 no man you missed all the point. They were scared of him and thats why no one talked. At the end of the show, because of marlos ignorant ways of trying to have a name he realised he dont have no reputation or name out there in the streets. People like omar, avon and joe will live on but not some dipshit like marlo.
@@Rahim.ali80 The gist of Marlo's character is that he is incredibly good at earning "respect" through terrorizing people weaker than him, but his strategy immediately falls apart the moment he can't just have Chris and Snoop assassinate his problems, and it frustrates him to no end. The poker scene and his ending at the society party really show this. He's a nightmare for anyone involved in the street level drug game, but when he's around connected people who make him feel powerless he immediately goes out to bully people he knows can't stand up to him
Spiro is one smooth operator...:) Never loses his cool, always under control.
always business
He learned it all by watching what happens if you don't control your emotions as he went up the ranks and even learned something new from Prop Joe maybe. Sometimes the experiences of others is the best teacher and you dodge some bullets.....
@@bmwvillan it's like that in real life also , losing your cool never leads to anything good ( and makes you look weak ).
Marlo: "I'm a gangsta."
Spiros: "Haha, that's cute."
Lmao. So true.
I mean, he is a gangsta. The Greeks, however, seem to be much more "international syndicate".
@@RaptorJesus The Greeks are a cut out for the CIA
@@codyvandal2860 Well, the CIA is a spy agency. The whole point of a spy agency is to...commit crimes in other countries. So that'd make them(and basically any other spy agency) an..."international crime syndicate".
@@RaptorJesus you're not wrong about the Greeks but the whole point of a spy agency first and foremost is to gather intelligent and intercept information :)
Man i would pay to watch an entire episode of Chris and Marlo on holidays at AC 😂
What is ac
@@drizzydadraco4658 atlantic city
I never seen Marlo have any fun I was waiting for them to show us but he went to jail 😭😭
@@yahshuayoungeenthenewwave6445 he’s like gus from bb and bcs. Addicted to the power, not the money.
It's hard to imagine Marlo on vacation, like he doesn't even seem to enjoy all the money he makes. I feel like he just goes home and stares at the wall unblinking
Jamie Hector, who plays Marlo, is horribly underrated
Yes he is killer on Bosch
He is a really underrated actor.
@Satchel Charge that’s crazy I grew up playing Halo Reach
@@desihayward2510 Wait... did he do voice work for Reach? The comment you were replying to is gone
@@StainsStainsStains yeah he played Emile
Spiros' voice is so soothing
voice of a dependable man :)
Vondas’s voice is just so perfect
The first scene with chris and the greek soldier is shot so sick! both are looking out for their bosses its badass
Power, respect, muscle, KILLERS!
Spiros wasn't the boss though.
Trilmonté it dont matter he was his shooters boss
@@Raphie009 he was the face of "the greeks" so he was their boss but not the boss
And the orthodox church or temple in the background, perfectly framed.
Omar wasn’t really on Marlo’s mind. He was feeling buoyant and happy, feeling validated by the Greeks and the weight of the crown. However, Chris knew the danger Omar represented and his life was in danger. Chris was feeling the urgency of the moment, while Marlo had his mind on ‘AC’. Perhaps if Chris kept Marlo informed about the mayhem Omar was causing their crew and calling out Marlo’s name, Marlo would have been in war-mode as well. But without that intel, he had a false sense of security thinking it was time to enjoy some good times at AC, rather then realizing he had stirred up a hornets nest with Omar and the Wire was starting close in around him. In some respects, Marlo and his “crown”, didn’t have a clue. Very un-Avon like, who would have smelled all these things in the wind, intel or no intel.
Why do you think Avon would have smelt it without any intel?
@@anantsharma7955 Avon knows a soldier when he sees them.
_"Game recognize game"_ as the saying goes.
Avon knows that once you put a gun on a soldier that you better finish that soldier off right then and there.
Otherwise, the soldier will come back at you, *_guaranteed._*
Very true. Chris should have told him about Omar’s anticss and Marlo would have been on go mode
he was
i can quote from chris to marlo. "they saying omar can't be got"
chris didn't want to go up against omar. he convinced marlo to put a bounty up because chris knew he couldn't get him and he would appear weak
There are many things I don't understand in the relationship between Chris and Marlo. When Omar is doing Marlo's name dirty, Chris tells the crew they shouldn't brief Marlo "Man's got enough on his mind". That's Chris taking a decision about what the boss should know and what not. Then, when Marlo shoots Devonne, Chris pats him on the back, like a kingpin soothing a novice. And in this scene, Marlo wants to celebrate his success and Chris needs to remind him of the biggest risk. It's three times Chris imposes himself. He's a ruthless killer, a savvy mind, and has the aura of the ultimate boss. Yet he's playing second man to Marlo, who always comes across as playing above his league and who can only pull that off thanks to his 2nd man. Marlo's ruthlessness was by proxy. It was probably meant to be portrayed this way, but I've never understood why.
"tomorrow ain't promised to no one". Love it.
It echoes in that final scene. Marlo just lives moment to moment ready to die but as long as he's alive shit is going HIS way.
this a rare occasion to see Marlo happy
He's happy when he sees Chris playing with the kids
+THE BOSS MANUAL It's actually right after this scene when they go past Chris' people's house.
@@fuzzdunlop4945 shows how close they are
He smiles at the card game, when the oldtimer says that he will have Morgan Freeman drive his car.
Yeah, him thinking about Atlantic City was the one time he was happy on this show.
Damn Marlo......its a cell phone not a intergalactic instrument of death
+Samwise Gamgi LMAO.
Jasper Aquino This was 2006-2008 , cell phones were definitely apart of social culture then. Not as big as most people don't use them as much but they were pretty normalized by then.[I had a cell phone when i was 14 back in 2007]
+Samwise Gamgi He was showing marlo how he was conducting business with pictures.
You have to explain that one....
it was more like 2004 and phones with cameras were pretty new.
This scene was so power, people forget this was the opening scene to the episode! Wire would always drop gems
What the Greek liked about Marlo was his quiet calm yet alert personality. His determination and ruthless nature. I think he saw a bit of himself in him.
Tomorrow isn't promised to no one, meanwhile.. that line sums up Marlo perfectly
Them getting close to each other is a sign on how close they are, not as business partners, but as mutuals.
surprising how marlo is shown to be so deferential here when normally he's a cyborg
He had a plan, "this town is full of boys that wore the crown", "the point is, its my time now". He got it, he managed to outplay the best of them, in the person of Joe, and now he was in direct contact with the main source of drugs in Baltimore.
To go even further, we can see that the only person Marlo is ever talk in a friendly, personal and human like form was Slim Charles, the best muscle out there. A cold killer, remember how he killed Cheese. Marlo knew that Slim will never be impressed by his roughness, and allways called him, Slim and tall man, like they were buddies. Because in front of Slim, he could never keep up the cyborg apperance, Slim could see right trough him.
@@cRobbone88 I agree with the first part but not the second. Marlo is wearing the crown and he's in a good mood because this is literally his dream come to fruition and it's a beautiful day. He is friendly with Chris, his second.
However, remember his thing about names and how he disrespects Bodie by calling him by the wrong name. Him calling Slim Tall Man is not a sign of respect, it's actually a sign of disrespect because of how informal it is. Yes, Slim and others saw through him but that's not actually difficult because Marlo was never actually hiding his ambitions. Prop Joe just overplayed his hand and got betrayed by Cheese.
@@deeznutz9869 informal? Gtfoh that's what his friends called him as well at times.
Shiiiiit...he had jus secured the plug....that nigga couldn't hold that emotion back...lol
@@lircox what other times does anyone refer to Slim Charles as tall man?
It's funny how Marlo talks about Joe as if he were a mentor in this scene.
That look when Marlo told Spiros that Joe taught him not to use phones as if he didn't have the intuition not to use them lol
he learnt what he could
joe was always a sellout
he would do anything to save himself
he sold out the greeks and the package to save himself
🐍 🐍 🐍 saa
We learn the greatest lessons, not from our friends, but, from our enemies.
Chris never got to go to Atlantic City, such a shame.
He didn't get to kill Omar so instead he goes after Chalky White.
That thumbnail had me thinking Marlo was a math genius and Spiros was going to talk him through his childhood trauma.
@Stephen Lindsay Too kind
"It's not your fault."
Chris was my favorite. One of the realest dudes
"Joe will be missed very much missed we like Joe a hard man not to like"
"Tomorrow not promised to no one smh, meanwhile we go on"
Watching this tells me I’m ready for a rerun The Wire.
Writers should've done a spin off smh: Marlo and Chris hit Atlantic City haha
Yeah feel like marlo hardly ever got to have fun. Couldn’t even make an AC trip happen for himself.
Like they would do in The Sopranos. A la “Pine Barrens” or something. 😂😂
@@PoweredByAudio Spiros on the phone: "The guy killed 16 Chechen rebels. He was in the interior ministry"
*In AC
Marlo to Chris: "You not gonna believe this. He dropped 16 Czechoslovakians. M'fer was an interior decorator!"
Chris: "His house looked like shit"
1:28 when you've got a huge top score on Candy Crush
Marlo's GTFOH face at 1:35 is legendary now.
“The man overcame his grief.” Marlow was a cold bastard.
he showed Marlo the clock texts. How to tale pictures of clocks.
The way Marlo scooped over a sat closely to Spiro lol!
They loyalty Chris had for Marlo is crazy...💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
In the end he joined wee bey in prison
@@letitburnforever2122 thats the penn u must not know.
My headcanon is that Marlo's first kill was Chris's sexually abusive father. Loyal ever since.
@@geordiejones5618 where u make that up at
@@Vercingetorix.Rising makes sense for me: chris did mike's dad like he been there before. I imagine the dude was like military minded and marlo found out the shit, got a gun and killed him right in front of chris, because he could be running his own crew easily but he got more loyalty to marlo than string did to avon. marlo had to have have done something like that to make a scary nigga like chris feel underneath him.
Marlo's mind being blown by a text message.
Watched the wire series 4. time today and this show just gets better and better..
Was so sick Marlo did well in the end.
spiros is the greekest greek i've ever seen
And he's not even Greek!
*Jewiest Jew
@@SeaJayBelfast wait.. what?? they're Jewish???
@@cashless1980 I believe so, yeah.
@@SeaJayBelfast what about the Italians in the sopranos? Are they Italian?
Marlo and Chris’ friendship is dope. Even gangsters need true homies.
Marlo was perfect casting but Chris Partlow sounded like he went to prep school and then pursued a BA and MA in Sociology from Yale lol
Most people suspect Chris was former military based on certain character traits.
I mean, Chris wasn’t really a street gangster compared to the others tbh. To him it seemed more like a job than a lifestyle, no pleasure in the game, it was just his 9-5
@@alexjames4770 something happened to chris to make him this way the way he kills it seems like he likes it
@@jonhtsoncurk7009 I disagree, he seems indifferent to it, oftentimes trying to soothe the victim. It’s Snoop and Marlo who obviously like the killing.
@@alexjames4770 I think you could say he enjoyed it in the sense that anyone enjoys something they're *good* at. I see his attempts at soothing his victims to be a courtesy to them, it's not personal, just the job. Except, you know, the guy who was touching the kids. He enjoyed and savoured every little moment of that.
I never liked Marlo. Not just because he killed Bodie but because he didn't care about anything but his name.
However. I had to respect the fact that he was serious, cold and professional at all times.
He was good for the Greeks. He'd never talk too much, he was careful, and he wanted to make money. Forget everything else.
Damn great acting by him.
he was the perfect client for the greeks
Well, what do you mean by "like?" Although people are all complex and the line between right and wrong is often unclear, Marlo is- by all accounts- a violent, murderous criminal who preys upon the weak and the innocent. He's a bad guy. Does he have a moral code? Yes. Is he a competent kingpin? Certainly. Does Jamie Hector put on a stellar performance as Marlo- is Marlo an interesting character? Absolutely.
So what is there to not like? You want every criminal on the show to be like Avon, Prop Joe, Omar, or Brother Mouzone? Or, do you want a cast full of different personalities? You need guys like Stringer and Marlo to tell the full story.
@@macnolds4145 i like marlo bc he is by far the most interesting character. he has little to no backstory. like he just spawned and just started having his way
@@macnolds4145 by like meaning hes nothing to like and the more I think about neither was Avon. Most dont realize Avon and Marlo are so alike! Now Prop could be liked because while yes he definitely was conniving he all and all stayed out the way and was never with the violence. Only person in the underworld side to me that was likeable was Omar. Mans man in every way.
I love how the meeting starts on the subject of Joe precisely because the Greeks agreeing to meet with Marlo was basically the green light to kill Joe. The Greeks probably weren't even told Joe was dead, they just assumed. It's all so cold.
The greeks knew what was going on between everybody,they didn't care nor get involved just wanted a dependable partner to fill Joe place.the greeks saw that marlo was the new king soon & he checked out & passed otherwise the greeks would not meet with him, their organization seemed bigger & more sophisticated structured than marlo & barksdale,their not going to just do business with any drug dealer recommended by their former enforcer in prison who was the only one arrested in earlier seasons of show.They left $50 million in drugs sit on dock to be seized & the old man said something like " we got plenty more", thats a organization thats well financed that can take such losses.with the greeks in with the FBI i can't see how they wouldnt know what their partners in all areas of crime were doing for the security of their own organization, remember proposition Joe wasn't the greeks only partner. They supplied everything to criminal organizations,including women trafficking if you remember that episode of the bodies found in shipping container.
who gots the scene where vondas is like “I looked into his soul”
There is a compilation,look up;Wire Trap Movies.It has most of Marlo's scenes.
And yet the Greeks were not even Greeks.
What were they tho ?
@@Waltherppk78 It was never revealed. But there was a scene where Spiros said that they were not Greek.
@@Waltherppk78 russians
@@PeterParker-yg6fc nah they weren’t Russians ...
@@Waltherppk78 They do speak Greek and enjoy Greek food so I always assumed Greek Cypriot, technically not Greek but still culturally Greek. My second guess would be Macedonian for similar reasons. If not either of those then maybe Armenian. They definitely were not Russian.
This showed me that Chris was the real gangsta when Marlo had to accept his request
It's amazing to realize that Marlo despite his street Savvy and ruthlessness, he still has that corner boy mentality that never grew beyond that. The Greek and his associates understand the wider picture. It wouldn't surprise me that Marlo is just a small bit of change for them and not the whole pot.
Exactly. Actually only Stringer tried to "bury" these old street ways and see the wide picture but he was unlucky...
As shown in Season 2 they had their hands in many enterprises: Stolen Goods, Prostitution etc. Drugs was just 1 part of their business.
I liked when he showed Marlo how to text.
nah he was showing him the clock maneuver (how to setup for meets) marlo isnt retarded he knows what a text message is, remember iin a later scene lester freamon has marlos phone and the big clock and waves it at marlo as if to tell him " i broke your code, your secret" in this scene is Spiro showing marlo how they setup meets, without any words or voice messages
Well said.
@@Itzsfo0 hmmmmm I always thought it was just a text. How do they have meet up with juts clocks? Like alarm set ups?
Marlo didnt kill joe for the plug he killed him cause he put omar on him at the card game
Both, actually. Remember Marlo was already working the connect before he killed Joe. Once Cheese put him up on all the side deals he cut with Omar, if there was any hesitation to kill Joe due to sentiment was dead at that point. Remember also when Joe tried to bargain for his life, Marlo says something in the order of, "Joe you'll be up to mischief in no time". Brilliant writing.
It was brilliant writing, but it had moments where it may have outsmarted itself. I felt Marlo would have been a dead man walking after running aground,and getting locked up. The Greek and Vondas would have saw to that. They killed the Dock Chief for less. Marlo can breach their entire operation. They would have killed this guy and his crew the moment they got the window.
Kawan Woodley he killed him for the plug. I dont recall marlo finding out about joe setting that up. Furthermore as long as joe was alive he was going to (stay) the greeks primary distributor. They only considered marlo as a back up insurance policy incase something happened to joe which (marlo conviced them of). So he had to kill him for the plug.
Kawan Woodley up
@@ctaylor2805 Exactly Marlo never found out about the card game
This scene is funny because it looked like spiro's is giving marlo a tutorial on how to use a mobile phone like he's old and has never used one before 😂
I figure he was using something that was either encrypted or deceptive for communication. he tells him to use the phone for things a normal person would use a cellphone for, but shows something for doing business on it.
I feel like Spiros was telling him, if business is going well that him and Marlo have nothing to talk about.
Spiros is telling him to talk about normal stuff on the phone since it's part of a cover. If no one knows him, they'll move on. The problem is that, unlike Spiros, Marlo is already known.
Cazmo Rivera he was showing Marlo how to text
Marlo: We cant use phones they can hear what we’re saying
Spiros: sends a txt message.
this was chris turning consigliere to marlo....he was the rationale thinker
Anthony Condegni A war time consigliere at it too.
Marlo was thinking to celebrate in Jersey, lol. Partlow understood that it was no time to celebrate.
he has to be loyle to his capo
"Man overcame his grief" lol
When I first glanced at the thumbnail, I thought of the park bench scene in Good Will Hunting.
Spiro showed Marlo TikTok.
Always sucked that the Greeks never got caught. They were so close in season 2 with the whole Sobotka thing. A loose end but I guess that's just the nature of international criminals who can use foreign laws to vanish at a moments notice.
ironically them phones was his downfall...
Marlo learned about text messaging and it changed the game.
Hi, how did they communicate? with photos of a watch, saying the time of the date?
Each hand of time showed coordinates within the city to meat so you had to look on a map and figure where to meet.
"Can't play like that right now, Omar gonna make move."
They respected what Omar could do, they knew he was just as lethal as they were.
best scene on the show....watched this 20 times
I like the scene with Avon & Stringer Bell on the roof. 2 friends discussing their childhoods not knowing that they're both setting each other up. This scene is good too
Marlo looks like the dude who would send random emojis during texts for no reason
Did Marlo ever get his trip to Atlantic City, he had asked and hinted to Chris a few times that he eagerly wanted to go to AC but Chris never really agreed at any time. Hmm I wonder if Marlo is still asking Chris to go with him to AC to this day.
Ajay Johal Doubt it since Chris took all those bodies for Marlo when they got caught towards the end.
I loved the Greeks because they never faltered and they remained steady.
The Greeks loved Joe makes me wonder was that-a-way to set Marlo up and get revenge for him killing Joe was by giving him the phones..because that was his downfall..
Nah they'd just kill him
0:36-0:40 Just shows you the pecking order and food chain of the drug business. You get that feeling that spiros and the greek are nothing to be fucked with.
Spiros ended Marlo's reign with that phone, I do wonder if that was the point considering he probably knew he killed Joe
I like how the advent of new technology was a feature of the show
Marlo was untouchable.....until the Greek handed him a cell phone
"Tomorrow ain't promised to no one"
I think spiros gave him the phone on purpose
0:14 hahahaha love the “can we shut the fuck up about it already and move on?” eyebrow raise
Why does Marlo walk like he's had hip surgery...
Sane Man lmao
Its his swagger yo!
Lol
that you, Pilgrim.
Spiros' T-shirt reminds me of Tony Sprano's t shirt lol.
This is why Marlo is my absolute favorite character
Did Spiros throw in a charger for that or was he letting Lo deal with that himself?
Also what the hell could've provoked this reaction is beyond me.....
When you grow up in a certain environment, you learn and think the world is that way. Either rich or poor, you are a product of the environment you grow up in. Remember the first time we see Marlo, ghosting, just like Bubbles says it, not even talking on the phone with the boys. Then came Joe and tryied to "civilise", bring him up and broader his horizon, "i dont talk about business on the phone, Joe taught me that". And now, somebody else, a new environment in wich Marlo has to adapt quick, shows him that the phone is something you can use in your advantage. Something new for him, something that he wasnt aware of. Hance the surprise.
I believe it's to do with the 'clock photo' code system they work on. Admittedly it doesn't come across that well.
@@cRobbone88 you made no sense, b.... Lol.. dude was asking about what Spiros shows Marlo on the phone-- either a photo or some way to circumvent the cellphone tracking feature in that phone.... who knows... we do know it ain't shit bout what u typed lol
I felt like this was just inserted for Freamon to have an easy chance to catch Marlo for to wrap things up. I can't imagine Joe agreeing to contact the Greeks in the same way, & if he had he'd have been caught a long time ago!
“My name is not my name” and “my name is my name”
I could watch a whole Wire-like series about the Greeks and their operation
Sounds like the Greek connection is basically a Jewish one.
+Nanton BullArt They are Jews actually.
Thanks for the information!
they are not jewish, homie They are greek and then become fake croation through passports. They Read greek
+ceritified head hunta the greek is not Greek though
The Greek is an ethnic Greek. Perhaps a Greek Cypriot, Albanian of Greek descent, Pontic Greek or Serbian of Greek descent. He spoke fluent Greek, read Greek newspapers, listened to Greek music and refers to Cyprus when he kills the Turkish sailor early in season 2.
That had so much respect or fear of Omar that they really thought Omar was going to pop up in Atlantic City and gun them both down..........on one leg 😕
Wtf he showed him on the phone ima lil slow help me out 🤣🤣
How to text pictures of clock emojis
What was Chris talking about at the end? What play would he make?
D D He was talkin bought making a move on Omar to kill him
He was talking about the business side of things.
My name is my name vs my name is not my name
Really Chris part.. stopping by home he a real soldier!!! Remember never eat where you shyt at!!!
the greeks are the real kings. avon and the other were just pawns
always like that. The best shit comes from other countries
King Day white man always pullin the strings
zero
No,the real kings are the banks.Criminals end up dead or in jail.In real life it comes from Sinaloa cartel not greeks.
Andrew Kruzienski
LOL! No.They're nothing.Sinaloa cartel actually controls almost all drugs coming in US.
jxsilicon9 Haha that isn't what is being portrayed here though. The Greeks run Baltimore and the ghetto drug dealers like Avon and Marlo are just pawns. The Greeks The are most likely former Mossaud agents with a connection from Afghanistan and ties to Russian organized crime. Baltimore doesn't have a big Hispanic community so the cartels presence is less than in other large cities. No one is arguing that the Sinola Cartel isn't powerful. It just is not in Baltimore in the Wire. And you do realize that Columbia still produces the Cocaine and Heroin then sells it to the Mexicans who then take all the risk and get the bad publicity. So Ochoa is probably still the overall king in the real world. Using the Mexicans as front men just like he did with Escobar.
Puppy dog Marlo meeting *the real deal gangsters* in town.
Look, Frank Lucas was the only 1 getting it himself no middle man just paid his bro-in-law for transportation but he was getting it from the source...... then he was the source in damn there 3 to 4 states maybe more lls.
A dependable man is the most important thing in business....
I love how none of the Greeks were actually Greek.
TrollyMcTrollFace Spiros is Greek for sure, and so was Glekas. I don’t know about “the Greek” though.
How do you know Spiros was Greek? All those passports and false identities. Hell, he could be German for all we know. The only thing indisputable is that he's European.
The Greek and Spiros were ethnic Greeks. The writer of the show is Greek, east Baltimore has a large Greek population, and the only reason "I'm not even Greek" was included was because Greek American lawyers petitioned the show not to portray Greeks in a bad light so they added those lines in. The writer was pissed that they did this. So they 100% were Greek.
Well, they could be ethnic Greeks from Cyprus for instance, not technically Greeks.
I've always wondered: what the hell is Vondas showing to Marlo? Please let me know if you know.
The worst mistake Marlo made was getting with that lawyer
False…that same lawyer freed him with 10mil
The principal from Everybody Hate’s Chris came a long way
marlo is actually taller than chris ffs, never knew that