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For your opinion at 29:42 I think it was. Orochi is weaker than Monster Garou and Platinum S. He would of been beaten by one of them like flashy flash was beaten. But Orochi is just too slow to do anything to the two. It would of been the same as the 1v1v1 but with a minor difference of it being more destructive and slightly different.
I feel like Platinum S got a fair share of his powers expressed, but Geryuganshoop, who literally everyone has forgotten about, could manipulate black hole with his esp powers and just got the jjk jogo treatment by saitama and gets killed within 5 seconds
Platinum S would appear in the future since Black S is still alive , hopefully we get to see how strong he is with all of his cells , good video Satori
🥹🥹🥹BRO… This shoutout is MASSIVE! I legitimately cannot thank you enough! Thank you so friggin much Satori! Great vid too! You made a really good case for Evil Eye; after hearing what you said I honestly feel like he could be higher on the list. 100 percent overlooked The only one I slightly disagree with, but still sorta agree, is Orochi. Only cuz killing him with one punch allows us to dwell on how much of a threat he woulda been otherwise. I kinda like how much is left to the imagination. But at the same time, definitely I wanted more. He was so friggin cool.
No problem, You deserve it man! Yeah, Evil Eye has such an amazing design and a very interesting premise, feel like he could have been a Cadre for sure. And I can understand Your point on Orochi, it does leave that air of mystery to some extent. But still, wouldn't have been cool to see more of him. (:
It's in order of character I got most hyped about, only to turn into disappointment 1. Evil Ocean Water - What can kill Water? 2. Sage Centipede - If Elder Centipede had an impressive display, what is this one Capable of? 3. Orochi - probably the most hyped-up character 4. Golden/Platinum S - Bro said he can rival Orochi 5. Gouketsu - He made Bakuzan his bitch whos a Dragon Threat 6. Groribas - Literally a Dragon Threat and was stated to be the strongest out of the three General 7. Gums - Not Hyped, but I definitely wanted to see more 8. Haragiri - I bet he's a dragon threat, but he got one shotted 9. Phoenix Man - Mostly, I'm disappointed they retconned his previous ability 10. Forest King - wanted to see more to be honest but it is what it is
honestly, season 1 is filled to the brim with wasted monsters that were used to establish saitama's strength. Which I guess did a good job explaining the main narrative but after that saitama should've been used more of a last resort to actually build tension in the fights.
I will say this I feel like Gouketsu should've survived or lived longer til the raid and face Bang, It would've at least further show how Bang is truly the pinnacle of martial art.
There was no need to kill Gouketsu, dude was already away for a few minutes, could've easily just said "yeah he had already escaped and was returning to the hq" or something and give him a cool fight against Bang
I could see a scenario where Orochi returns after the Psyrochi fight, as he technically does survive this and becomes Sage Centipede. In this version, he returns to form and joins in the Garou-Platinum S fight after Flashy Flash is knocked out. Orochi takes out Platinum S, proving that his is in fact the strongest monster, with Garou taking out Orochi with his perfected fist. This could also double as the awakened Garou moment you mentioned earlier. It does remove Sage Centipede's role from the story, but I think that is fine as he was very uninspiring.
Yay I agree, Orochi probably my favorite antagonist in the entire series, their design and abilities look so badass, I knew I was gonna enjoy every fight they were in, so it was disappointing for them to get one punched before being able to do anymore rad moves, especially in the redraw where the fight only lasted a few panels. I have a theory that the only reason the fight itself was retcon is because the fight would have been to expensive to animate for season 3, so Murata intentionally for lack of a more polite term, mad the fight worse, because otherwise season 3 was never gonna happen. To clarify no hate towards Murata, it just disappointing the original fights wasn’t improved and it won’t be animated.
@SatorisYT And your ACTUALLY using the full potential of your characters (you builded up Orochi against Boros and he almost won in your "redraw" and Platinum S can surpass Collapsing Star Fist Boros and when you decide to do something like that we all know he will FEEL and BE a threat ).
I don't know where to bring else to bring this up, but Melzargard is such a fraud. The only actual damage he does is ripping of Iairon's arm, and then the S class dudes beat the shit out of him until they figure out his gimmick. Dude would've been killed by base metal bat if he knew his gimmick from the start.
Personally I really wish they merge the orochi vs saitama original battle and the redraw together for the anime, that way we get both an awesome fight and cool backstory, but I highly doubt they will 😔
I feel like the reason Gouketsu is such a fan favourite character is because the extent of his power is left mostly to the imagination, as all we see is casual displays of power from him. So in a way I’m kinda glad we didn’t see more of him, as I doubt he’d be such a fan favourite otherwise. I agree with you on Orochi though, would’ve been nice to see more of him being actually scary. After Saitama defeats him he just takes backseat to Psykos, I would’ve preferred his personality and abilities show themselves a bit more during their fusion. Was surprised Sage wasn’t no.1 lol.
I got nothing against list but It's kinda crazy that almost all villains of monster association arc appeared in just one video as wasted.And yet MA arc is best OPM arc to be so far
Tho in my opinion,Psychos minion (Or whatever it was) and Psychos as character are kinda trashed by entire series.I mean i don't mind their death but their character could be more interesting to make Psychos actually character to be saved for later arc,while Gyoro Gyoro could be just as good as one of Special like of Monsters existing in verse which Orochi got in his army. Idk would this create plot hole since Psychos is main cause of Orochi monsterification in series..but that my though
I hate how dirty they did orochi and that’s why I love the way you did him in your Boros series, because Orochi’s whole thing is surviving and adapting to come out on top, in the manga, I really wanted to see Orochi reviving, to his Gaia Cannon state, then fight every single hero and continue to adapt, well ofc they defeat him but it’d be a high diff fight, it’d really give reason to Orochi’s title as the Monster King
No character in opm is wasted, the monsters association cadres are simply foil and mirror characters for the S class. Both of these teams have egos and pride, refusing to work together even if their life is at stake. One humanized the s class by making them face powerful adversaries that they cannot beat on their own. Also opm is not a shounen or plot driven story it focuses on being character driven and thus the development of its main cast. It’s why sometimes opm has a lot of dialogue and people call it boring.
And that's one of the reasons I like the Boros turned good So much. Many of those characters got so much more justice instead of just getting oneshot. I honestly think that even Fraud Centipede was there actually at level it was supposed to. That's ať least enough to not be fraud. 😁
Hey Satori, I think your main problem is with how crowded the monster association arc was. Because you want more screentime from a lot of characters, but there is a LOT going on in that arc. Still I agree with how cool these guys are and how nice it would have been so see them do more; but I think the underlying issue you are pointing too is the arc having too much stuff going on and too little time to explore it.
Imagine if we got a remade version of orochi vs the s class that initially intended. Orochi fights all the s class and beats them until tats appears and have an epic battle until orochi starts losing and fuses with psykos which leads into psykochi vs tats
I think Platinum Sperm could beat Orochi specifically because of his impeccable perception compared to the other monsters (the Tatsuaki fake out scene). Elder Centipede doesn't have the speed to even tag him, unfortunately Platinum Sperms biggest hurdle is his attack potency and durability. While I'd argue he's multicontinental+ seeing as he AT LEAST traded blows with Garou sadly his durability is only around a quarter of Elder Centipede. Now Evil Natural Water absorbed with the ocean might be untouchable... pure speed, strength and battle I.Q. are needed to take that guy out.
@@SatorisYT Oh for sure, it just goes to show why specially not stating how powerful someone or something is can add an astonishing amount of depth to power scaling in writing. I'm also super biased for my boy Platinum, he put in the work for as little as he was around (webcomic Golden Sperm is the goat though). Great video too!
the sad thing is that even though black s survived, there is absolutely no way for him to get another form. think about it: after frieza went golden, what was his next form? it was black. that's right it all loops back into itself.
Haven’t seen the video yet, but one of my biggest is easily Orochi. I enjoyed the Garou fight, but the fact that the “boss” of the monster association is killed off by a gag sucks.
Someone drew some variations with different expressions so now it can be more personal and expressive. It was a bit awkward on my end to laugh while the mascot just remains the same serious face all the time.
great video honestly the problem with sage and plat s is they were just like punching bag for garou to hype him up but i think they could have atleast done better or had fought a few s class heroes to hype them up more galewind and hellfire deserve better
@@SatorisYTimagine sage fighting 10 s class heroes,they attack him and he just molts and gets stronger and the s class coordinating their attacks together figuring out his regenaration core and beating him togerther while garou is fighting ocean water i think that would have been the best
Honourable mentions for Groribas and Geryuganshoop. Groribas was claimed to be the strongest fighter the Alien Pirates had, by Geryuganshoop, and he just gets one tapped by Saitama after appearing in a total of maybe 6 panels. Geryuganshoop is said to be the strongest esper in the universe, and all we see him do is spin around pebbles, before Saitama tosses one through him. So imo they had a bunch of potential but unfortunately faced Saitama.
Completely unrelated…but does anyone know how Garou came to hate “heros” so much when they only came to be called heros 3 years ago???😂😂 He is what? 19, right?? So yeah, the math ain’t adding up. I mean, am I missing something??
Don't talk about "wasted character" in opm. One character can have super sick design and epic introduction and set up just to be erased and in the next chapter after a single punch.
Don't talk about "wasted character" in opm. One character can have a super sick design and epic introduction and set up just to be erased in the next chapter after they got punched.
maragori was undoubtedly the most character that got done dirty. i doubt any of you even remember who he is, so for context, he’s that one buff young man which was so focused on getting stronger, then his genius brother gave him a potion which made him the size of a city. (he was at the very start of the series) i get that he was used to illustrate how strong saitama is, but come on bro. it wouldve been so cool if there were more heroes dispatched to fight him.
15:50 upon retrospect of this video Sage centipede was such a disappointment for Satori that he made a disstrack to expose Sage centipede for being the second biggest fraud in all of one punch man
Fuhrer Ugly should not have became acidic, Gums should have. He should have started shooting his stomach acid at people. Fuhrer Ugly was all-ready the MVP for a while during the S-Class/Cadre battle so he didn't need to gain a new form, he all-ready had plenty going on for himself.
I've had a few hate comments here and there, but not many. I am of the belief that Meteoric Burst Boros has similar stats to initial Cosmic Garou before he copied Saitama, but I don't think Boros could beat him. Garou has way better skill and stamina. I can see the fight being decently close in hand to hand before Garou starts spamming martial arts and overwhelms Boros. Then Boros would resort to energy blasts and eventually the Roar Canon, but Garou could counter all of them by using various Cosmic phenomena or just copying Boros and canceling out his attacks. That's the way I see the fight going personally.
I wonder what would happen if the Roaring Cannon collided with the Gamma ray burst, it would be like a beam clash like from Dbs or Dbz. Rest In Piece Akira Toriyama. Your legacy will not be forgotten🕊️🕊️
Well, you'd probably hate what I would have done with Golden Sperm... I'd have something similar to the webcomic where after seeing how powerful Golden is by having him instantly kill Ugly (no vomit in my version of events) and almost kill Tatsumaki, also him flexing hard on Darkshine and having Flashy wonder if he's faster than him, just a lot of glazing, the heroes are all about to face him unsure of if they can win or not. Garou comes out of the rubble and nobody recognizes him until he looks at Bang and half of his face is still uncovered by the black shell. Sperm realizes this is the hero hunter and attacks him causing them both to vanish and you see that they're zipping around the battlefield too fast for anyone to see and leaving shockwaves like a DBZ fight. With a big explosion the dust clears and you see fully monsterized Garou standing over a defeated Sperm. To awaken Garou had to fight an insanely strong monster like that and the battle was on such a level that none of the heroes watching could even see it. Now with Garou standing there as the strongest monster ever seen, potentially a disaster level god, and the heroes already nearly defeated he really is the embodiment of despair.
@@SatorisYT I'm glad you agree. I'm one of the snobs who really hated the changes made to the monster association arc and I actually dropped the manga after that so anything to make it closer to the original would be an improvement in my opinion. Since I actually got a reply I'd like to ask because of your Herobrine video what disaster levels you think the mobs from Minecraft would have. With the crazy scaling Steve has from the vanilla game alone I wouldn't be surprised if a single Enderman would be a cadre level threat.
@@Zack-pm2tu I'd say I liked a couple of the changes, but overall, I definitely agree that a lot of them made the arc worse. As for the Minecraft Mobs, the Steve metas for "canon" Minecraft are pretty easy to throw into question, if not straight up debunk, so the Mobs, if You think Steve is universal, would be God level in strength and durability but basically normal humans in speed. And if You don't think Steve scales that high, the Mods should be pretty easy to take out even for C or B class heroes IMO.
@@SatorisYT The best speed wank I can think of is that the Endermen are said to teleport but you can actually see them moving really fast. This is just a gameplay thing obviously or it's like in Naruto where the "teleport" that many characters like Shisui have is actually just a super speed boost rather than Minato's literal teleportation but if we assume that the Endermen really are teleporting then Steve can just barely perceive infinite speed. He isn't able to actually fight at that speed like when Meta Cooler caught Goku during instant transmission but it's the best I think we can do.
I will stay on this till the day I die, they did orochi so dirty. Fire design, crazy hype, and insane moveset. We got robbed of orochi vs Garou rematch to show that Garou has become the strongest monster. Honestly, had orochi taken over psykos and just did the tatsumaki fight I (personally) feel like it would have been better.
I'm not gonna watch it. Your thumbnail caught my eye and thought that's kind of stupid. Platinum S maybe got blown into smithereens, but he can still be reborn. I'm sure he will in fact.
My problem is he didn't need to exist yet. Golden S could have done everything Platinum did and Platinum could have been saved for later. Right now Platinum just serves to job to Garou and feels very disappointing, at least to me. It doesn't matter if he'll appear again or not, what happened in this arc will not be changed by future events.
@@SatorisYT Ok then who's to say they don't have a new transformation for him in store? I don't think any cool character is wasted anyway since it's comedic relief. Most characters in the manga are stolen or jokes anyway that's what makes this manga so great. It's not meant to be taken serious. Even when you do and when you really get into it, Saitama does something so ridiculous you can't help but feel a bit akward for it.
@@SatorisYT The main problem with Plat S for me is that I'm fine with form changes but it really wasn't necessary in that situation. I feel like people should only transition into the next form when "oh shit this guy is actually pretty strong I'm gonna have to get even stronger than him to win" but Plat S transitioned for the sake of "omg look at this new form its so cool" like if thats the only reason he couldve gone even further "omg king is still too strong I need to become Diamond S" "omg king is still still too strong I need to become Obsidian S" "omg no way wtf even is king I need to become Cosmic S" not saying that he should tho
Having some Cadre win against the S class would have been great. And I mean Win win. Have Gums eat Pig God and Tank Top beaten to a pulp by further ugly. Have these 2 cadres walk in on a fight like Nyan vs Driveknight when Driveknight is about to win but 1 additional cadre throws a wrench into the plan. Show how powerful Homeless emperor is when he really lets loose as he constantly was holding back to not cause to much destruction. Pit him against flashy flash and homeless emperor in a moment of desperation let's completely lose, before flashy flash can target him and creates a energy attack so large that even with flashy is unable to dodge it completely. Flashy Flash would barely be to escape with his life but get injured so greatly that he is put of commission for a few minutes and is presumed dead only for him to show up for Platinum S. Meanwhile the other cadres would reprimand homeless emperor for letting lose like that as it put them all at risk maybe even kill off Gums or further ugly that were unfortunately in the way. This would put validity behind gyro gyro's statement that Black S and Homeless emperor could beat anyone together as Black S provides plenty of defense while Homeless has so much firepower that it can oneshot many S-Class Heros and Dragon level monsters if he lets lose. The only reason Homeless does not go all out is because at maximum firepower he starts to obscure his own vision and blindsides him to potential threats. Meanwhile monsters like Sage centipede and Ocean water... honestly with their role... just cut them out. Meanwhile Orochi should just cheat death and adapt like Garou refusing to be a offering for god and put up a fight eventually even against saitama for a while. EDIT: Now thinking about it why not simply have Orochi defuse from Psychos but his monstercells copy her esper ability and now we have a talented martial artist who is also a genius esper and have THAT be the final challenge for garou who then get's his awakening by god to defeat Orochi so the prophecy can be fulfilled. Like Orochi at this point becomes undoubtedly the strongest monster we have seen even surpassing boros as regeneration, martial arts and ESP abilitys get combined for one last defiance only for god to snuff it out via Garou.
Hey man good vid, was wondering Been thinking about reading opm. I’ve been wanting to find another manga to read that had great story and characters with also strong characters to scale and wondering if you could help. Looking for something kind of like one piece
Thanks! Well, the strongest mangas I know are Dragon Ball, One Punch Man, Bleach, Naruto and Record of Ragnarok. Most simular to One Piece would probably be Naruto and Bleach. But in terms of characters, I'd recommend Record of Rangarok a lot! It's basically one huge tournament arc and the characters are consistently some of my favorites in anime and manga, several of them make it into my top 20 favorite anime characters list and almost all the fighters make it to top 100 in anime for me. Story wise and character wise, another one I really enjoy (my favorite manga of all time actually) is Tokyo Ghoul, but it's a more realistic setting with very brutal scenes and the power scaling doesn't go very high, mostly just up to town level maybe. But still, in terms of story, I think it's the best I've ever read.
@@jextern7961 I'd say it does for the most part. There are a few moments where I feel like the ball is dropped, but I do wnjoy the story and characters a ton. I wouldn't be making One Punch Man videos if I didn't feel that way.
@@SatorisYT also do yk why there’s no specific release date for future chapters on manga viz. I just wanna know when the next chapter will release or if the creator is on a hiatus?
PS was wasted ONLY based on hype, i just wanted to see him POWEER UPPPPPP In WC multi s was replaced with GS who did way more (multi s did nothing). And PS also did way more but his role narrative wise was less significant
Yo satori finally a new vid also love the avatar but akatsuki L is a classic it's hard to get used to the change at this point Also quick question If king was actually the strongest man what powers do you think he'd have
Yeah, it's a gange that needs getting used to, but I feel like in the long run, it will be better for videos to have a more expressive avatar. I would imagine King as the strongest man would have the strength of Saitama and the ability to control Ki like in Dragon Ball (Child Emperor imagines his ultimate move very similarly to beams from Dragon Ball)
It doesn't really matter if it happens or not. It won't change my opinion on Golden and Platinum being wasted. It will just be a new form with its own stuff going on.
Never thought about it. It could be interesting, but I don't feel like there's enough to talk about to make it a full video. If Psychos turns into a hero instead of going down the path of evil, then the entire Monster Association arc never happens. If she turns good during the arc or after, there's very little left to cover afterwards, as the manga hasn't gotten far after that.
Pre redraw he was awesome and now he still has potential to do something good, even despite the massacre that was the redraw in the Monster Association arc. At least that's how I feel.
Honestly Bang, Tank top master , Narinki private squad, a few of atomic disciples,alot of A classes heroes, and a ton of civilians caught In collateral damage should have died in the arc. Emphasis on Bang dying by garou hands making himself believe he is absolute evil. Maybe with all these people dying the heroes and the association get push back and shame from the rest of the world for not doing their job right. Could be an interesting mini arc. Or a justice mini arc where garou faces the consequences of his crimes. Also council of swordsmen was a let down, they are supposed to rival Atomic, yet they get one shot. Make the stronger and keep them alive.
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Also, sorry if this video appears a bit negative at points, I promise to do some positive One Punch Man videos in the near future to balance out the Force!
It wood have been cool to see the fiht betuin orochi and metal Knight becoes they alredy foght and orchi won and metal Knight is rely srong
For your opinion at 29:42 I think it was. Orochi is weaker than Monster Garou and Platinum S. He would of been beaten by one of them like flashy flash was beaten. But Orochi is just too slow to do anything to the two. It would of been the same as the 1v1v1 but with a minor difference of it being more destructive and slightly different.
@@Daemo_alt Have You seen any pf my One Punch Man power scaling videos where I mention anything about Orochi? Just curious.
@@SatorisYT 1 or 2 I think.
Edit: Dang you have fast relplies.
@@Daemo_alt Ok, thanks for sharing.
Not always, it depends on what time it is for me and if I'm free or not (:
I feel like Platinum S got a fair share of his powers expressed, but Geryuganshoop, who literally everyone has forgotten about, could manipulate black hole with his esp powers and just got the jjk jogo treatment by saitama and gets killed within 5 seconds
Being and villain and Meeting saitama kills all your potential and development in a instant
@@shruti56 Happens when the protagonist is too powerful Goketsu and that evil Ninja monster got DECKED
Platinum S would appear in the future since Black S is still alive , hopefully we get to see how strong he is with all of his cells , good video Satori
Thanks! Hopefully we do get to see a lot more of him in the future.
yeh true i love blaCk s like i want him following saitama with his trillions of Cell
Awesome!
Why tf does everyone call em "s"? People too afraid of saying sperm 💀?
@@zartexkrontaculys1097everybody calls him black s because it’s much more ironic
Orochi got done dirty
Agreed
Yeah for a character with such a sick design he got done SO dirty.
phoenix man got done the dirtiest..not in terms of wasted potential but nerfed due to too much potential 🤣🤣
Phoenix man has the best potential in the series for me😂
@@CVVLin absolutely
🥹🥹🥹BRO… This shoutout is MASSIVE! I legitimately cannot thank you enough! Thank you so friggin much Satori!
Great vid too! You made a really good case for Evil Eye; after hearing what you said I honestly feel like he could be higher on the list. 100 percent overlooked
The only one I slightly disagree with, but still sorta agree, is Orochi. Only cuz killing him with one punch allows us to dwell on how much of a threat he woulda been otherwise. I kinda like how much is left to the imagination. But at the same time, definitely I wanted more. He was so friggin cool.
No problem, You deserve it man!
Yeah, Evil Eye has such an amazing design and a very interesting premise, feel like he could have been a Cadre for sure.
And I can understand Your point on Orochi, it does leave that air of mystery to some extent. But still, wouldn't have been cool to see more of him. (:
It's in order of character I got most hyped about, only to turn into disappointment
1. Evil Ocean Water - What can kill Water?
2. Sage Centipede - If Elder Centipede had an impressive display, what is this one Capable of?
3. Orochi - probably the most hyped-up character
4. Golden/Platinum S - Bro said he can rival Orochi
5. Gouketsu - He made Bakuzan his bitch whos a Dragon Threat
6. Groribas - Literally a Dragon Threat and was stated to be the strongest out of the three General
7. Gums - Not Hyped, but I definitely wanted to see more
8. Haragiri - I bet he's a dragon threat, but he got one shotted
9. Phoenix Man - Mostly, I'm disappointed they retconned his previous ability
10. Forest King - wanted to see more to be honest but it is what it is
A solid list for sure 👌
Groribas SHOULD be number 1 ngl
😹😹😹
True 😢
No Need, Groribas Is God Already.
He negs saitama but doesnt neg airflow that the saitama caused with his fist so yeah, he is a god
honestly, season 1 is filled to the brim with wasted monsters that were used to establish saitama's strength. Which I guess did a good job explaining the main narrative but after that saitama should've been used more of a last resort to actually build tension in the fights.
what i love is that half of the list is :"and then he ran into saitama"... well that's kind of the premice of the story.
Yeah buts it's crazy how most people from the introduction arc were like dragon level and they got no diffed by Saitama(eg marugori vaccine man)
I will say this I feel like Gouketsu should've survived or lived longer til the raid and face Bang, It would've at least further show how Bang is truly the pinnacle of martial art.
He go toe toe with peak m garou.
There was no need to kill Gouketsu, dude was already away for a few minutes, could've easily just said "yeah he had already escaped and was returning to the hq" or something and give him a cool fight against Bang
I could see a scenario where Orochi returns after the Psyrochi fight, as he technically does survive this and becomes Sage Centipede. In this version, he returns to form and joins in the Garou-Platinum S fight after Flashy Flash is knocked out. Orochi takes out Platinum S, proving that his is in fact the strongest monster, with Garou taking out Orochi with his perfected fist. This could also double as the awakened Garou moment you mentioned earlier. It does remove Sage Centipede's role from the story, but I think that is fine as he was very uninspiring.
Yay I agree, Orochi probably my favorite antagonist in the entire series, their design and abilities look so badass, I knew I was gonna enjoy every fight they were in, so it was disappointing for them to get one punched before being able to do anymore rad moves, especially in the redraw where the fight only lasted a few panels. I have a theory that the only reason the fight itself was retcon is because the fight would have been to expensive to animate for season 3, so Murata intentionally for lack of a more polite term, mad the fight worse, because otherwise season 3 was never gonna happen. To clarify no hate towards Murata, it just disappointing the original fights wasn’t improved and it won’t be animated.
out of topic but I was just watching your what if boros turned good series and it's a masterpiece. Can't wait on season 2
Thanks! Happy to hear You like it!
@SatorisYT And your ACTUALLY using the full potential of your characters (you builded up Orochi against Boros and he almost won in your "redraw" and Platinum S can surpass Collapsing Star Fist Boros and when you decide to do something like that we all know he will FEEL and BE a threat ).
“Some random youtuber on the internet actually dropped a diss track on him” 😭😭😭 we all know who that is
who is it
I don't know where to bring else to bring this up, but Melzargard is such a fraud. The only actual damage he does is ripping of Iairon's arm, and then the S class dudes beat the shit out of him until they figure out his gimmick. Dude would've been killed by base metal bat if he knew his gimmick from the start.
Yeah, he's pretty weak
@@SatorisYT Hi, dude.
@@Anno_AD Hi
I never understand why Melzegard did not split his body, 5v5 would probably have ended better for him than 1v5.
Not sure if you could call it wasted potential, but I really wish Captain Mizuki got to do more.
Personally I really wish they merge the orochi vs saitama original battle and the redraw together for the anime, that way we get both an awesome fight and cool backstory, but I highly doubt they will 😔
I feel like the reason Gouketsu is such a fan favourite character is because the extent of his power is left mostly to the imagination, as all we see is casual displays of power from him. So in a way I’m kinda glad we didn’t see more of him, as I doubt he’d be such a fan favourite otherwise. I agree with you on Orochi though, would’ve been nice to see more of him being actually scary. After Saitama defeats him he just takes backseat to Psykos, I would’ve preferred his personality and abilities show themselves a bit more during their fusion.
Was surprised Sage wasn’t no.1 lol.
I just got finished watching an old vid of yours and then see this drop, perfect timing for PEAK
I got nothing against list but It's kinda crazy that almost all villains of monster association arc appeared in just one video as wasted.And yet MA arc is best OPM arc to be so far
Tho in my opinion,Psychos minion (Or whatever it was) and Psychos as character are kinda trashed by entire series.I mean i don't mind their death but their character could be more interesting to make Psychos actually character to be saved for later arc,while Gyoro Gyoro could be just as good as one of Special like of Monsters existing in verse which Orochi got in his army.
Idk would this create plot hole since Psychos is main cause of Orochi monsterification in series..but that my though
It’s not. Martial arts tournament arc was much better
I hate how dirty they did orochi and that’s why I love the way you did him in your Boros series, because Orochi’s whole thing is surviving and adapting to come out on top, in the manga, I really wanted to see Orochi reviving, to his Gaia Cannon state, then fight every single hero and continue to adapt, well ofc they defeat him but it’d be a high diff fight, it’d really give reason to Orochi’s title as the Monster King
No character in opm is wasted, the monsters association cadres are simply foil and mirror characters for the S class. Both of these teams have egos and pride, refusing to work together even if their life is at stake. One humanized the s class by making them face powerful adversaries that they cannot beat on their own. Also opm is not a shounen or plot driven story it focuses on being character driven and thus the development of its main cast. It’s why sometimes opm has a lot of dialogue and people call it boring.
That....doesn’t refute anything he said in the video
And that's one of the reasons I like the Boros turned good So much. Many of those characters got so much more justice instead of just getting oneshot. I honestly think that even Fraud Centipede was there actually at level it was supposed to. That's ať least enough to not be fraud. 😁
I'm glad You feel that way!
Hey Satori, I think your main problem is with how crowded the monster association arc was. Because you want more screentime from a lot of characters, but there is a LOT going on in that arc. Still I agree with how cool these guys are and how nice it would have been so see them do more; but I think the underlying issue you are pointing too is the arc having too much stuff going on and too little time to explore it.
4:50 5:00 I agree. They kept being as cocky as before, and as we say in Spanish, they became vendehumos
Watchdog man with the real plot armor somehow managing to avoid this list.
To me, he's moreso a case of just "haven't seen what he can do yet"
Imagine if we got a remade version of orochi vs the s class that initially intended. Orochi fights all the s class and beats them until tats appears and have an epic battle until orochi starts losing and fuses with psykos which leads into psykochi vs tats
That would have been sick!
I think Platinum Sperm could beat Orochi specifically because of his impeccable perception compared to the other monsters (the Tatsuaki fake out scene). Elder Centipede doesn't have the speed to even tag him, unfortunately Platinum Sperms biggest hurdle is his attack potency and durability. While I'd argue he's multicontinental+ seeing as he AT LEAST traded blows with Garou sadly his durability is only around a quarter of Elder Centipede. Now Evil Natural Water absorbed with the ocean might be untouchable... pure speed, strength and battle I.Q. are needed to take that guy out.
That's a topic for its own video.
@@SatorisYT Oh for sure, it just goes to show why specially not stating how powerful someone or something is can add an astonishing amount of depth to power scaling in writing. I'm also super biased for my boy Platinum, he put in the work for as little as he was around (webcomic Golden Sperm is the goat though). Great video too!
platinum not that wasted he can still come back seeing as he’s saitama monkey right now
the sad thing is that even though black s survived, there is absolutely no way for him to get another form.
think about it: after frieza went golden, what was his next form? it was black.
that's right it all loops back into itself.
🤣
We’ll just get white S
They hoe’d Goketsu, a fan manga finished his and Saitamas fight, it was pretty cool!
So glad you decided on using Unison's design from the discord. Things look much less awkward now lol.
Just finished the video, and it reminded me that you said you were going to read freddy Fanfic about sage centipede
Haven’t seen the video yet, but one of my biggest is easily Orochi. I enjoyed the Garou fight, but the fact that the “boss” of the monster association is killed off by a gag sucks.
tank top master dont die because he dont die in webcomic
21:22 he didn't hesitate to say " hentaing psychos " in his video
Bro has no fear about youtube guidelines
Yo dude what happen to your mascot ? 0:01
Someone drew some variations with different expressions so now it can be more personal and expressive. It was a bit awkward on my end to laugh while the mascot just remains the same serious face all the time.
For me it would be Goketsu and Phoenix man. Pre-Redraw Phoenix man had some of the best powersups and Hax in the series.
ngl i wished we got more overall character moments with homeless emperor
hmmm who knew that monsters got one shot in a story where the main character can one shot monsters
Boros is the most wasted character. He couldve been a hero or something later in the series and help with earth
great video honestly the problem with sage and plat s is they were just like punching bag for garou to hype him up but i think they could have atleast done better or had fought a few s class heroes to hype them up more
galewind and hellfire deserve better
100% agreed!
@@SatorisYTimagine sage fighting 10 s class heroes,they attack him and he just molts and gets stronger and the s class coordinating their attacks together figuring out his regenaration core and beating him togerther while garou is fighting ocean water i think that would have been the best
Honourable mentions for Groribas and Geryuganshoop. Groribas was claimed to be the strongest fighter the Alien Pirates had, by Geryuganshoop, and he just gets one tapped by Saitama after appearing in a total of maybe 6 panels. Geryuganshoop is said to be the strongest esper in the universe, and all we see him do is spin around pebbles, before Saitama tosses one through him. So imo they had a bunch of potential but unfortunately faced Saitama.
Don't worry there will diamond S in future 😂
Completely unrelated…but does anyone know how Garou came to hate “heros” so much when they only came to be called heros 3 years ago???😂😂 He is what? 19, right?? So yeah, the math ain’t adding up. I mean, am I missing something??
1:20 2:29 I couldn't agree more
Don't talk about "wasted character" in opm. One character can have super sick design and epic introduction and set up just to be erased and in the next chapter after a single punch.
Don't talk about "wasted character" in opm. One character can have a super sick design and epic introduction and set up just to be erased in the next chapter after they got punched.
who said top 10 is not cadre ? his level was unknown just because tatsumaki killed him doest mean he was weak
i feel like ppl forget opm is pretty much a comedy anime and characters dont really matter much to the story line, especially side characters.
great vid tho, valid list.
I don't know, personally I like it the most when it's taking itself seriously, but that's just a personal preference of mine.
My boy tank top master needs a buff😭
maragori was undoubtedly the most character that got done dirty. i doubt any of you even remember who he is, so for context, he’s that one buff young man which was so focused on getting stronger, then his genius brother gave him a potion which made him the size of a city. (he was at the very start of the series) i get that he was used to illustrate how strong saitama is, but come on bro. it wouldve been so cool if there were more heroes dispatched to fight him.
27:25 not to mention he fought garou and died in just less than half a second 💀
Wasted? Platinum Sperm is still alive.
He's with Rover.
gums wasnt picked to beat the s class he was picked to beat pig god specifically
The Cadres in general are supposed to beat the S class heroes.
But yeah, he was matched up against Pig God on purpose.
15:50 upon retrospect of this video Sage centipede was such a disappointment for Satori that he made a disstrack to expose Sage centipede for being the second biggest fraud in all of one punch man
@@nicholasaugello2534 Who's the first?
@@SatorisYT king
Fuhrer Ugly should not have became acidic, Gums should have. He should have started shooting his stomach acid at people. Fuhrer Ugly was all-ready the MVP for a while during the S-Class/Cadre battle so he didn't need to gain a new form, he all-ready had plenty going on for himself.
What if cosmic garou fought boros like how would the fight go?
(did you have ever had a hate comment before?)
I've had a few hate comments here and there, but not many.
I am of the belief that Meteoric Burst Boros has similar stats to initial Cosmic Garou before he copied Saitama, but I don't think Boros could beat him. Garou has way better skill and stamina. I can see the fight being decently close in hand to hand before Garou starts spamming martial arts and overwhelms Boros. Then Boros would resort to energy blasts and eventually the Roar Canon, but Garou could counter all of them by using various Cosmic phenomena or just copying Boros and canceling out his attacks. That's the way I see the fight going personally.
I wonder what would happen if the Roaring Cannon collided with the Gamma ray burst, it would be like a beam clash like from Dbs or Dbz.
Rest In Piece Akira Toriyama. Your legacy will not be forgotten🕊️🕊️
The Gozilla like Dinoking was kinda cool, just like evil eye, yet they were shot down easily by tatsumaki😅
Well, you'd probably hate what I would have done with Golden Sperm... I'd have something similar to the webcomic where after seeing how powerful Golden is by having him instantly kill Ugly (no vomit in my version of events) and almost kill Tatsumaki, also him flexing hard on Darkshine and having Flashy wonder if he's faster than him, just a lot of glazing, the heroes are all about to face him unsure of if they can win or not. Garou comes out of the rubble and nobody recognizes him until he looks at Bang and half of his face is still uncovered by the black shell. Sperm realizes this is the hero hunter and attacks him causing them both to vanish and you see that they're zipping around the battlefield too fast for anyone to see and leaving shockwaves like a DBZ fight. With a big explosion the dust clears and you see fully monsterized Garou standing over a defeated Sperm. To awaken Garou had to fight an insanely strong monster like that and the battle was on such a level that none of the heroes watching could even see it. Now with Garou standing there as the strongest monster ever seen, potentially a disaster level god, and the heroes already nearly defeated he really is the embodiment of despair.
I would honestly prefer this over how the manga did it (:
@@SatorisYT I'm glad you agree. I'm one of the snobs who really hated the changes made to the monster association arc and I actually dropped the manga after that so anything to make it closer to the original would be an improvement in my opinion. Since I actually got a reply I'd like to ask because of your Herobrine video what disaster levels you think the mobs from Minecraft would have. With the crazy scaling Steve has from the vanilla game alone I wouldn't be surprised if a single Enderman would be a cadre level threat.
@@Zack-pm2tu I'd say I liked a couple of the changes, but overall, I definitely agree that a lot of them made the arc worse.
As for the Minecraft Mobs, the Steve metas for "canon" Minecraft are pretty easy to throw into question, if not straight up debunk, so the Mobs, if You think Steve is universal, would be God level in strength and durability but basically normal humans in speed. And if You don't think Steve scales that high, the Mods should be pretty easy to take out even for C or B class heroes IMO.
@@SatorisYT The best speed wank I can think of is that the Endermen are said to teleport but you can actually see them moving really fast. This is just a gameplay thing obviously or it's like in Naruto where the "teleport" that many characters like Shisui have is actually just a super speed boost rather than Minato's literal teleportation but if we assume that the Endermen really are teleporting then Steve can just barely perceive infinite speed. He isn't able to actually fight at that speed like when Meta Cooler caught Goku during instant transmission but it's the best I think we can do.
@@Zack-pm2tu Yeah, that's probably the highest possible argument.
4:15 😂😂And you will too, Forelocks in The Face
I will stay on this till the day I die, they did orochi so dirty. Fire design, crazy hype, and insane moveset. We got robbed of orochi vs Garou rematch to show that Garou has become the strongest monster. Honestly, had orochi taken over psykos and just did the tatsumaki fight I (personally) feel like it would have been better.
For sure got done dirty!
hellfire and gale cans back because of the fight with Phoenix man and child emperor. They’re just a gag now
I kinda feel like there is no way to develop most of the characters in OPM. because its not really about that is it
homeless emperor introduced god so it's not wasted lol
if i see another anituber with an akatsuki outfit im going to lose my mind
The only one I predicted coming into the video is Monster king, cause yeah, he was barely in the story
I'm not gonna watch it. Your thumbnail caught my eye and thought that's kind of stupid. Platinum S maybe got blown into smithereens, but he can still be reborn. I'm sure he will in fact.
My problem is he didn't need to exist yet. Golden S could have done everything Platinum did and Platinum could have been saved for later. Right now Platinum just serves to job to Garou and feels very disappointing, at least to me. It doesn't matter if he'll appear again or not, what happened in this arc will not be changed by future events.
@@SatorisYT Ok then who's to say they don't have a new transformation for him in store? I don't think any cool character is wasted anyway since it's comedic relief. Most characters in the manga are stolen or jokes anyway that's what makes this manga so great. It's not meant to be taken serious. Even when you do and when you really get into it, Saitama does something so ridiculous you can't help but feel a bit akward for it.
@@SatorisYT The main problem with Plat S for me is that I'm fine with form changes but it really wasn't necessary in that situation. I feel like people should only transition into the next form when "oh shit this guy is actually pretty strong I'm gonna have to get even stronger than him to win" but Plat S transitioned for the sake of "omg look at this new form its so cool" like if thats the only reason he couldve gone even further "omg king is still too strong I need to become Diamond S" "omg king is still still too strong I need to become Obsidian S" "omg no way wtf even is king I need to become Cosmic S" not saying that he should tho
Phoenix Man is the most wasted and Platinum S should be the trigger of Garou perfect "The Fist" and not the headcannon Centepiede
Good video
Having some Cadre win against the S class would have been great. And I mean Win win. Have Gums eat Pig God and Tank Top beaten to a pulp by further ugly. Have these 2 cadres walk in on a fight like Nyan vs Driveknight when Driveknight is about to win but 1 additional cadre throws a wrench into the plan.
Show how powerful Homeless emperor is when he really lets loose as he constantly was holding back to not cause to much destruction. Pit him against flashy flash and homeless emperor in a moment of desperation let's completely lose, before flashy flash can target him and creates a energy attack so large that even with flashy is unable to dodge it completely. Flashy Flash would barely be to escape with his life but get injured so greatly that he is put of commission for a few minutes and is presumed dead only for him to show up for Platinum S. Meanwhile the other cadres would reprimand homeless emperor for letting lose like that as it put them all at risk maybe even kill off Gums or further ugly that were unfortunately in the way. This would put validity behind gyro gyro's statement that Black S and Homeless emperor could beat anyone together as Black S provides plenty of defense while Homeless has so much firepower that it can oneshot many S-Class Heros and Dragon level monsters if he lets lose. The only reason Homeless does not go all out is because at maximum firepower he starts to obscure his own vision and blindsides him to potential threats.
Meanwhile monsters like Sage centipede and Ocean water... honestly with their role... just cut them out. Meanwhile Orochi should just cheat death and adapt like Garou refusing to be a offering for god and put up a fight eventually even against saitama for a while.
EDIT: Now thinking about it why not simply have Orochi defuse from Psychos but his monstercells copy her esper ability and now we have a talented martial artist who is also a genius esper and have THAT be the final challenge for garou who then get's his awakening by god to defeat Orochi so the prophecy can be fulfilled. Like Orochi at this point becomes undoubtedly the strongest monster we have seen even surpassing boros as regeneration, martial arts and ESP abilitys get combined for one last defiance only for god to snuff it out via Garou.
Make a video on what threat level would characters from various animes be in One Punch Man world
Maybe someday
Hey man good vid, was wondering Been thinking about reading opm. I’ve been wanting to find another manga to read that had great story and characters with also strong characters to scale and wondering if you could help. Looking for something kind of like one piece
Thanks!
Well, the strongest mangas I know are Dragon Ball, One Punch Man, Bleach, Naruto and Record of Ragnarok. Most simular to One Piece would probably be Naruto and Bleach.
But in terms of characters, I'd recommend Record of Rangarok a lot! It's basically one huge tournament arc and the characters are consistently some of my favorites in anime and manga, several of them make it into my top 20 favorite anime characters list and almost all the fighters make it to top 100 in anime for me.
Story wise and character wise, another one I really enjoy (my favorite manga of all time actually) is Tokyo Ghoul, but it's a more realistic setting with very brutal scenes and the power scaling doesn't go very high, mostly just up to town level maybe. But still, in terms of story, I think it's the best I've ever read.
@@SatorisYT thank you man I really appreciate it
What’s your opinion on opm, does it have good writing and characters?
@@jextern7961 I'd say it does for the most part. There are a few moments where I feel like the ball is dropped, but I do wnjoy the story and characters a ton. I wouldn't be making One Punch Man videos if I didn't feel that way.
@@SatorisYT also do yk why there’s no specific release date for future chapters on manga viz. I just wanna know when the next chapter will release or if the creator is on a hiatus?
Its 11:52 but this is more important then sleep
Gums was so wasted that no one even talks about him
I wanna see Darkshine vs Orochi (Hint Its pretty equal to be forward)
@@Daemo_alt I think Orochi completely decimates Darkshine.
@@SatorisYT Eh. I wouldn't say so. I think Orochi wins. But Orochi ain't all that more stronger than him.
Nvm I say it's low-mid diff for Orochi.
PS was wasted ONLY based on hype, i just wanted to see him POWEER UPPPPPP
In WC multi s was replaced with GS who did way more (multi s did nothing). And PS also did way more but his role narrative wise was less significant
Gouketsu got done very dirty. We could at least have seen him actually fight Saitama even tho he easily got defeated.
So I'm not the only one who thinks that Tank Top Master should've died? Nice. That would be great in drama aspect of the story.
Well, I guess he's not called the Useless Emperor for nothing.
Yo satori finally a new vid also love the avatar but akatsuki L is a classic it's hard to get used to the change at this point
Also quick question If king was actually the strongest man what powers do you think he'd have
Yeah, it's a gange that needs getting used to, but I feel like in the long run, it will be better for videos to have a more expressive avatar.
I would imagine King as the strongest man would have the strength of Saitama and the ability to control Ki like in Dragon Ball (Child Emperor imagines his ultimate move very similarly to beams from Dragon Ball)
One punch man mastered the art of hype up a character, like UFC
How long would the manga be if you want all characters 🤔 to be flashed out
I'm not asking for every single character to be fleshed out. But I do wish some of these characters would have done more.
What is the discord
It's linked in the description
I kind of disagree with proche because man… it was hilarious to create a so threatening and strong guy and just beat him in one punch
May I ask who proche is?
@@SatorisYT orochi* man sorry im French my corrector is weird af 😅
@@martinsoler9741 No worries (:
whats the ost in the start of the vid
@@anime____artist7719 Light's theme from Death Note.
@@SatorisYT thxx
@@anime____artist7719 No problem!
You are gonna change your opinion when you see diamond S
It doesn't really matter if it happens or not. It won't change my opinion on Golden and Platinum being wasted. It will just be a new form with its own stuff going on.
6:30 😂 But his gastric Juice was undefeatable
Carbage Kabuto should also be on the list
He could be
I hope that platinum s stays alive in anime
Do what if physko turn into hero
Never thought about it. It could be interesting, but I don't feel like there's enough to talk about to make it a full video. If Psychos turns into a hero instead of going down the path of evil, then the entire Monster Association arc never happens. If she turns good during the arc or after, there's very little left to cover afterwards, as the manga hasn't gotten far after that.
tank top master survived beCause of the power of tank top xd
and i think they are saving him for future maybe saCrifiCe for the god
i think in upcoming chapter maybe black s new form diamond s will appear 🤣🤣
I still wonder how pheonix isnt in the list
Pre redraw he was awesome and now he still has potential to do something good, even despite the massacre that was the redraw in the Monster Association arc. At least that's how I feel.
Honestly Bang, Tank top master , Narinki private squad, a few of atomic disciples,alot of A classes heroes, and a ton of civilians caught In collateral damage should have died in the arc. Emphasis on Bang dying by garou hands making himself believe he is absolute evil.
Maybe with all these people dying the heroes and the association get push back and shame from the rest of the world for not doing their job right. Could be an interesting mini arc. Or a justice mini arc where garou faces the consequences of his crimes.
Also council of swordsmen was a let down, they are supposed to rival Atomic, yet they get one shot. Make the stronger and keep them alive.
5:29 they devoluted
*AAAAAAAAAAAAAH I AM SO HONORED HOLY SHIT!!!* 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Lmao its the every character that saitama has faced 😂😂
Hey rocky balboa ...
Also W video
Thanks!
Gouketsu should be number 1 ngl
Man, you totally missed the point, go Watch Seven Deadly Sins.
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