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@@Jrose11 Pretty damn good sponsor today, Jrose! don't listen to that troll. They have nothing better to do with their life than to be an absolute debbie downer.
You should definitely point out whether the game has MTX, especially when you say "get in on the ground floor", which is a common FOMO marketing phrase. If it doesn't, which I couldn't find anything saying that it does, that's a gigantic plus worth mentioning.
@@Matthew2077you’ve probably made this man less than a dollar’s worth of ad revenue in your entire life. You acting like he’s supposed to address you like royalty, delusional. He can respond to an arrogant comment anyway he likes
@@Matthew2077 they will now be done very last, years after the rest of the roster, because you specifically asked. Have a lukewarm night filled with humidity. dont try to guilt trip anyone with "wow i've been part of this for *soooooo loooong*" again either lol
I feel really honoured that you named the player character after me. It's surreal the timing of this upload because 4 years ago I was watching your videos while recording a Butterfree playthrough which became the first upload on my channel (July 21st). You inspired me to get started (something I hadn't found the motivation for since 2016). Thank you for the awesome work that gave me the momentum to get back into these games and to actually tackle the task of learning video editing. Your work literally changed my life and I'm sure it changes your audience members' lives every time you upload. Some little details I just couldn't hold myself back from mentioning: - If you disable Bide while it's active, Brock has to wait out the Disable counter before Bide starts counting down again. During this time he just sits there. There's more opportunity to do this in Red/Blue compared to Yellow because Onix only has 3 moves in these games. - If you heal with Leech Life it subtracts the healed amount from the damage accumulated by Bide. So Leech Life is both providing you health and reducing the damage Bide eventually deals. I noticed this first when hosting my Parasect race a couple years ago. - Gorgeous animated Venomoth at the start. I saw something similar on Bird Keeper Toby's channel awhile ago. I've always been curious how to do it, I'll probably reach out to ask!
Jrose and Scott together just makes me so happy man, I devour the videos you two mates do, thank you so much for all the hours of entertainement you have given to me and all the other fans 🙏
Considering that Venomoth was the entire reason why Twitch Plays Pokemon was able to beat the Elite Four by breaking Lance's AI, that makes what happens at the end of this video extremely funny.
@@stevo8826they sent out AATTVVV (the venomoth) into Lance's dragonite and since it has barrier in gen 1 it read it as a super effective move but since it doesn't do anything but raise defense the level 36 all terrain venomoth officially became a dragon slayer.
@@stevo8826After sadly disabling anarchy so the babies can vote for moves and not lose their mons to freedom, despite our best efforts to sabotage the lance battle which seemed successful at first, Lance dragonite was facing venomoth (Aka ATV, all terrain including dragon) and what everyone thought was a sure loss turned up to be a huge win as an under leveled venomoth forced dragonite to spam agility (gen 1 good ai, which virtually no one knew about in real time making it look like nothing short of a miracle) and that allowed atv to take lance down. It was absolutely unreal.
I have a hypothesis that Sabrina and Koga were originally swapped in being Psychic and Poison gym leaders. Think about it. Koga's gym is full of jugglers using Psychic types, while Sabrina's has several Chanelers. While chaneler is usually associated with Ghost types, remember that the only Ghost in Kanto is also a Poison type. Koga's gym puzzle is a series of invisible walls, which is the gimmick of Mr. Mime and its Barrier move, both Psychic type. Lastly, look at the badge names. Koga gives the Soul Badge while Sabrina gives the Marsh Badge. The Soul is commonly associated with human psyche, while a Marsh is a poisonous swamp.
This doesn't seem to be the case. None of the leaked development material points to this ever having been the case, and the badge names are entirely different in the original RG versions (Instewd being named after the colors of the town they appear in, with the Soul Badge becoming the Pink Badge, and the Marsh Badge becoming the Gold Badge) The Pokémon being almost only Psychic types is a mystery, though most of those in the Gym learn poison-type moves. As for why they used these over other Pokémon, perhaps it was because they originally wanted pure Poison-types, and Giovanni was already associated with the Nidoran line, and they didn't want to have every trainer use Koffing, so they just ended up using tougher Psychic-type Pokémon that have poison-type moves.
I always interpreted it as since Koga was a ninja, he trained against his Pokemon's weakness, psychic, and the trainers you battle are his sparring partners. The channelers are in Sabrinas gym because psychics and channelers are both occult/ spiritual types, and since there's only one ghost Pokemon, there's not enough to put them in a gym of their own. Plus, channelers thematically don't make sense with ninjas, but do with psychics.
I think that originally Koga didn't even exist and Erika was supposed to be the Poison leader with Gengar as ace. I'm sure you've heard of the ghost theory surrounding her kimono, but that got me further thinking: she's all about perfumes, which is a gas, and the only Ghost-line is all about gas, and then there's also the Koffing and Grimer lines (including an NPC in the city who talks about Grimer), and of course her Oddish/Bellsprout lines are not just Poison but also Grass. People also sometimes joke about Tangela being a Gastly covered in vines, and well... while not intended to be that of course, maybe its design comes from that, where they decided to make Erika a Grass leader so they repurposed a Gastly design into Tangela as a nod to what she used to be. Koga also really seems like a last-minute inclusion, considering his team and gym trainers and simplistic gym layout.
12:20 "Unfortunately a large moth cannot learn body slam" Tell that to the massive moths that attack me every night by my porchlight! I just wheezed thank you for the laugh Jrose
@@InfernosReaper Yknow that's valid, but also that brings up the semantic differences in pokemon moves-- What IS the real difference between a tackle and a body slam, if done by a massive moth?
26:35 funny enough that ledge was a final boss for twitch plays pokemon, took them at least 12 hours to get past it when they wanted to fight the elite four
That's precisely what I thought JRose was referencing when he mentioned the Ledge! It's crazy to think a single or maybe two Down inputs could throw the whole attempt off on Route 22 😧
My highlights so far are the passive-aggressive "FINE IT'S BACK" for the old intro and that Scott's Thought's namedrop had me smiling. Glad he was named for the Venomoth run, his favorite Pokémon, the legendary Water/Steel type!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Don't know if you noticed, but he also named his character Scott, and the rival Jrose. I love the fact you guys vibe together. Always loved both of your videos
Proud of you, AJ!! I just got a promotion too and it was so hard leaving my boss for another section, but she always told me she was proud, not mad or sad, and that helped 🥰
JRose; genuinely thank you for putting the intro back. Some nights I get depressed and sometimes when I'm like that I watch some of your older videos and that little intro in that short few seconds makes me feel like everything will be ok. I love all your videos regardless ; intro or no intro thank you for all you do!!!❤
@@DaDMonDCB i know know if this was where it started but i know the youtuber scott's thoughts is where i got it from. Hes definitely a mono rock type btw.
@DaDMonDCB It's from Scott's Thoughts. He initially got the types wrong accidentally a couple of times but now does it intentionally every single time as a running gag.
I don't know how to feel knowing that Cinderella 2 was also a foundational part of your childhood. Do you also catch yourself randomly thinking about it in your day? Like the part where the mouse turns into a man and tries to date a human woman? Because I do, despite how often I would fall asleep to it.
I don't recall Jack-Jack ever trying to date someone. He turned into a human because he figured Cinderella had no more interest in him as a friend after becoming a Princess and having way more human company. ... Great, now the movie's going to be bouncing around in my head again.
In my opinion Magmar is the most underrated and overlooked Pokémon ever. No one talks about him hardly. He’s always been my favorite of all time in the series and the games. Blaine don’t even have him on his team in red and blue or yellow. And he was his ace in the show. Just made no sense to me.
You know, this run had a lot in common with the plot of Cinderella 2: Dreams Come True, where Misty and Lorelei being the hardest fights represent Drizella and the Wicked Stepmother, and Agatha surprisingly being very easy represents Anastasia, the stepsister who gets a redemption arc and becomes a good person 🤔 Makes you think
When Scott’s Thoughts did a Kadabra run, he had to endure the patience of an individual who does not speedrun much, and therefore struggled. Here, when JRose uses Venomoth, the Psychic-Flying Pokémon, he has to come to terms why Butterfree was abandoned long ago. Worlds collide, videos are made.
Holy cow, for the first time ever he recognizes the existence of Scott's Thoughts! Very cool to see. I would love to see a collaboration between you two!
I found your channel a few weeks ago and have been binging this series ever since. Literally just finished watching the Cubone last night, and then this video pops up in my notifications. Just wanna say thanks for doing what you do, these challenge runs and solo runs are amazing and fun to watch ^_^
Jrose, Venomoth is incredibly good in the later games. I recently used it in a solo run of BDSP and it was absolutely stellar. It was one of the the few Pokemon that first try'd the Elite Four + Cynthia (alongside Clefable and Golduck). It entered the Hall of Fame at Lv. 71, had the Tinted Lens ability and its move set was: - Quiver Dance - Giga Drain - Bug Buzz - Roost Tinted Lens doubles the damage you do against all targets that resist your attacks, meaning you do 1x damage against a Pokemon with an ordinary resistance (instead of 0.5x) and 0.5x damage against a Pokemon with a double resistance (instead of 0.25x). This is incredibly powerful, since it drastically reduces the necessity for type diversity among your moves. There wasn't a single opponent I didn't do at least 1x damage against and combined with Quiver Dance and HP restoring moves, this made for a deadly combo. The Spiritomb Cynthia leads off with for example doesn't have a single Physical Attack. So you can just set up six Quiver Dances, heal inbetween with Roost and then proceed to sweep her entire team in one fell swoop. And on top of all that, Venomoth's poison typing makes it immune against Toxic, which is something I'm struggling with with a lot of Pokemon when facing Aaron and Bertha. Edit: I am currently on an Arcanine-only playthrough and Arcanine is struggling a lot more in the endgame. I'm currently on my third try to get through the Elite Four (at Lv. 66), after being stopped by Bertha on my first two tries, and it seems I'll still need a few more levels to beat her. Arcanine has access to Sunny Day and Solar Beam, but its real party piece is Burn Up, which gets rid of its Fire typing and thus all of its weaknesses. However Bertha's Ground/Rock type Pokemon are hitting hard regardless (and of course there's also Quagsire's Toxic 😒). So I'm going to be here for a little longer.
I love the way Shawn edits these, and his little commentary too! 😆 The badges and the time stamp on when you got them is fantastic! I'm glad all is good with AJ. I did wonder about him, and hoped he was okay.
so iv been watching jrose for years now and i know he's generally genuine with his sponsors, so i immediately downloaded the demo for yaoling to try it out and i have to say, i think this is my absolute favorite of his sponsors. well worth the $20 and thank you jrose for making me aware about such an indie gem. people need to try this game!
Definitely loved seeing how well this one did. Can't wait for the next one. I know I am still looking forward to the mid stage runs, namely the haunter, starters, and gloom just to see if it can make up for the poor oddish. Maybe even the kadabra or pidgeotto will make their appearance soon. So many videos you have completed and yet so many left to do. Thank you for all the content. Both of the past and future ones. And kudos to the editors who help behind scenes
This video is so special, intro is back and there's an interaction between jrose and Scott, loved it! Also I must say that I love the new editing and animations. Now, jrose, let's talk about sandslash, which I've been asking for so long😂 next one?
Venomoth was one of my first Psychic backups if I didn't have Kadabra or Alakazam for this game because it had Psybeam and that was a favorite move because it looked like a Kamehameha from DBZ which was incredibly popular at the time. 😄👍
@@gmsloep oh really? I haven't played any of the Pokemon games after Yellow and I haven't watched past the first couple seasons of the show, although I have somewhat kept up on the new Pokemon through cards and videos on RUclips. I'm guessing there was a Pokemon that actually does the motion and everything so it really looks like a DBZ fireball? 😅👍
@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269 Yep. Korrina's Machoke, in the Fighting gym. Look up "Machoke Kamehameha" and you'll find the clip, just with Goku's voice edited in.
@@gmsloep really? A Machoke? Huh, that's one of the last Pokemon I would have imagined using a move like that.🤦♂️ Whatever, I'm sure it was pretty hype for some people when it happened. 😄👍
@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269 it makes more sense once you know that 1) Focus Blast is a Fighting move introduced in Generation 4, and 2) Generation 6 was when the anime started going nuts with references to other shows. Jojo, Gundam, Dragon Ball, the references are everywhere.
This was so much fun to watch on stream! After so many videos it's rough sometimes, but we all appreciate your efforts making these solo runs! Thanks for all the great content Jrose!
Interestingly, that's not a moth. Venomoth is just the name the English translators picked. Its original Japanese name is "Morphon", and Morpho is a genus of butterfly. I read that switching Morphon and Butterfree's sprites was not a mistake, but a deliberate choice. They were planning the cartoon before they released the game, wanted Caterpie to evolve into something cute in the cartoon, and Butterfree was not cute at all. Morphon was (it looks like a winged Venonat/Konpan, given that that's exactly what it was designed to be). So they switched them around. I don't know if that's been confirmed by the developers or if that's just a fan hypothesis that grew until people thought it was correct.
That sounds quite unlikely. The game wasn't expected to be a huge hit, the anime and manga were created because of the game's success, it couldn't have been planned before the game was released. Wikipedia has an exact timeline. The anime was suggested months after the game's released, and the idea was even resisted a bit because if the anime flopped, it could affect the game sales. Butterfree seems to be inspired by Aporia crataegi... That butterfly looks like Butterfree and its larva looks like a caterpie with wrong colors.
@@Kleyguerth It's possible, but... if they came up with the anime after waiting to see if the the game was successful, they were really really quick to make it. The game came out late February 1996, the anime April 1st 1997. Assuming they decided the game was successful after just a month, immediately decided to make an anime, and somehow got all the details sorted out quickly enough to start production just two months later, that would have left them 10 months to make it before it started airing. Impressive. Pokémon's creator is a huge fan of insects, he's a real life Bug Catcher. Caterpie and Metapod are actual existing creatures (identical, with the right colors), and the butterfly that they turn into (eastern tiger swallowtail) has Venomoth's wings. Venomoth also has Caterpie's eyes (unlike Butterfree) and Metapod's head shape. And obviously "Butterfree" looks exactly like an evolved Venonat. There can be no doubt the current final forms are switched. They don't match their previous form at all, and perfectly match each other's previous forms.
@@BigSlimyBlob The switching part is possible, but "because anime" isn't. The anime idea was first brought up in August 1996 (per wikipedia). It was approved in September. Producing an anime doesn't take too long.
@@Kleyguerth Admittedly I am not at all knowledgeable in animation production time, but if it was approved in September, they would have made it in seven months. I find that very impressive. Oh, there's absolutely no doubt the sprites were switched, it's beyond obvious just looking at Venonat and "Buttefree" side by side. But I have never been able to find out why. The "it's for the anime" thing was the only semi-decent explanation I've read for it, and the people who made the claim were certain that this was the reason (though of course that does not prove they were right). If they did it deliberately, I really would like to know why. But it's very possible that it might simply be that the artist meant something and the coder just used the wrong sprite's code for each creature.
There's no proof of the sprites being switched from any of the gen 1 betas iirc. they've always been in the lines they are. What did happen was that blastoise comes from a separate water turtle line that got scrapped and it became the new evolution to wartortle, who's previous evolution was just a bigger wartortle
So I previously gave constructive feedback to the new editor that I really like the new animations, but they blocked various details of the moveset on previous videos. Big kudos to the great compromise here where you still show an animated Venomoth, but dont block the moves. Awesome work! Hope you see this!
Is it really fair to keep comparing everything to Mewtwo? Mewtwo is objectively the best pokemon, it's odd to expect anything, especially a bug type, to compare to Mewtwo
Man, watching your runs makes me feel bad I took the 3DS and the downloadable Red, blue (& yellow) versions for granted and never really playing them due to such old and obsolete graphics but your runs make them feel SO tempting to play, the JRose run way! 😊
23:38 Totally agree, Cinderella 3 is very good! I'd put it in the top tier of Disney direct-to-video sequels alongside Aladdin & the King of Thieves and Lion King 2.
Always really liked Venomoth, I've used one in my Blue team way back in the day. It's also underrated competitively thanks to Tinted Lens. Amazing vid once again dude.
so i was gonna leave a comment a long time ago saying that i preferred the videos where the current time was sorta kept secret until the end! i didn't because i like the content so much i didn't want to be a critic in any way 😂 i'm not sure there's any videos where it was completely hidden, but there are definitely some where you don't see many save screens or anything that could give you an update. i liked the mystery and reveal at the end. but now that the times are on the side throughout, i do actually prefer this a little better! it lets you know how it's going as it's going, different experience but very enjoyable! thanks for all the videos jrose we love you
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@@Jrose11 Pretty damn good sponsor today, Jrose! don't listen to that troll. They have nothing better to do with their life than to be an absolute debbie downer.
You should definitely point out whether the game has MTX, especially when you say "get in on the ground floor", which is a common FOMO marketing phrase. If it doesn't, which I couldn't find anything saying that it does, that's a gigantic plus worth mentioning.
@@Matthew2077you’ve probably made this man less than a dollar’s worth of ad revenue in your entire life. You acting like he’s supposed to address you like royalty, delusional. He can respond to an arrogant comment anyway he likes
The animated venemoth the whole video was pretty overstimulating 🫨
@@Matthew2077 they will now be done very last, years after the rest of the roster, because you specifically asked. Have a lukewarm night filled with humidity.
dont try to guilt trip anyone with "wow i've been part of this for *soooooo loooong*" again either lol
I feel really honoured that you named the player character after me. It's surreal the timing of this upload because 4 years ago I was watching your videos while recording a Butterfree playthrough which became the first upload on my channel (July 21st). You inspired me to get started (something I hadn't found the motivation for since 2016). Thank you for the awesome work that gave me the momentum to get back into these games and to actually tackle the task of learning video editing. Your work literally changed my life and I'm sure it changes your audience members' lives every time you upload.
Some little details I just couldn't hold myself back from mentioning:
- If you disable Bide while it's active, Brock has to wait out the Disable counter before Bide starts counting down again. During this time he just sits there. There's more opportunity to do this in Red/Blue compared to Yellow because Onix only has 3 moves in these games.
- If you heal with Leech Life it subtracts the healed amount from the damage accumulated by Bide. So Leech Life is both providing you health and reducing the damage Bide eventually deals. I noticed this first when hosting my Parasect race a couple years ago.
- Gorgeous animated Venomoth at the start. I saw something similar on Bird Keeper Toby's channel awhile ago. I've always been curious how to do it, I'll probably reach out to ask!
Worlds collide!
I clicked on this thinking it was a Scott video lol
You are simply awesome Scott. Both of you entertain me every single day no matter what video I watch.
shit, I guess I found a new channel to binge...
Jrose and Scott together just makes me so happy man, I devour the videos you two mates do, thank you so much for all the hours of entertainement you have given to me and all the other fans 🙏
Intro is back!
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Finally!! 🎉🎉🎉
It’s been close to 2 and a half years that’s crazy
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🗣️🔥
"Unsurprisingly a large moth can't learn Body Slam." But an armless Wooper can punch you in many ways. 😂
The ways of the Wooper are strange and mysterious
And a floating ball in gas with no arms can learn Fire/Ice/Thunder Punch xD
Wooper uses its face as a fist
torchic can learn mega punch and seismic toss
Wooper is cute and uses its very happy face.
Considering that Venomoth was the entire reason why Twitch Plays Pokemon was able to beat the Elite Four by breaking Lance's AI, that makes what happens at the end of this video extremely funny.
Oh goodness, haven't gotten to that part of the video yet, but know how twitch plays Pokemon went, I'm excited
i didnt watch tpp can someone explain in extreme detail?
@@stevo8826venomoth go brrrr
@@stevo8826they sent out AATTVVV (the venomoth) into Lance's dragonite and since it has barrier in gen 1 it read it as a super effective move but since it doesn't do anything but raise defense the level 36 all terrain venomoth officially became a dragon slayer.
@@stevo8826After sadly disabling anarchy so the babies can vote for moves and not lose their mons to freedom, despite our best efforts to sabotage the lance battle which seemed successful at first, Lance dragonite was facing venomoth (Aka ATV, all terrain including dragon) and what everyone thought was a sure loss turned up to be a huge win as an under leveled venomoth forced dragonite to spam agility (gen 1 good ai, which virtually no one knew about in real time making it look like nothing short of a miracle) and that allowed atv to take lance down.
It was absolutely unreal.
I have a hypothesis that Sabrina and Koga were originally swapped in being Psychic and Poison gym leaders. Think about it. Koga's gym is full of jugglers using Psychic types, while Sabrina's has several Chanelers. While chaneler is usually associated with Ghost types, remember that the only Ghost in Kanto is also a Poison type. Koga's gym puzzle is a series of invisible walls, which is the gimmick of Mr. Mime and its Barrier move, both Psychic type. Lastly, look at the badge names. Koga gives the Soul Badge while Sabrina gives the Marsh Badge. The Soul is commonly associated with human psyche, while a Marsh is a poisonous swamp.
This doesn't seem to be the case. None of the leaked development material points to this ever having been the case, and the badge names are entirely different in the original RG versions (Instewd being named after the colors of the town they appear in, with the Soul Badge becoming the Pink Badge, and the Marsh Badge becoming the Gold Badge)
The Pokémon being almost only Psychic types is a mystery, though most of those in the Gym learn poison-type moves. As for why they used these over other Pokémon, perhaps it was because they originally wanted pure Poison-types, and Giovanni was already associated with the Nidoran line, and they didn't want to have every trainer use Koffing, so they just ended up using tougher Psychic-type Pokémon that have poison-type moves.
I always interpreted it as since Koga was a ninja, he trained against his Pokemon's weakness, psychic, and the trainers you battle are his sparring partners.
The channelers are in Sabrinas gym because psychics and channelers are both occult/ spiritual types, and since there's only one ghost Pokemon, there's not enough to put them in a gym of their own. Plus, channelers thematically don't make sense with ninjas, but do with psychics.
I think that originally Koga didn't even exist and Erika was supposed to be the Poison leader with Gengar as ace. I'm sure you've heard of the ghost theory surrounding her kimono, but that got me further thinking: she's all about perfumes, which is a gas, and the only Ghost-line is all about gas, and then there's also the Koffing and Grimer lines (including an NPC in the city who talks about Grimer), and of course her Oddish/Bellsprout lines are not just Poison but also Grass. People also sometimes joke about Tangela being a Gastly covered in vines, and well... while not intended to be that of course, maybe its design comes from that, where they decided to make Erika a Grass leader so they repurposed a Gastly design into Tangela as a nod to what she used to be. Koga also really seems like a last-minute inclusion, considering his team and gym trainers and simplistic gym layout.
I could feel my sanity leaving me behind when "Cinderella 2:when dreams come true" references started
12:20 "Unfortunately a large moth cannot learn body slam" Tell that to the massive moths that attack me every night by my porchlight! I just wheezed thank you for the laugh Jrose
That's just Tackle
@@InfernosReaper Yknow that's valid, but also that brings up the semantic differences in pokemon moves-- What IS the real difference between a tackle and a body slam, if done by a massive moth?
Can't wait to see the run with Venomoth, the Fire/Dragon type
Type “not fire, just burns like it”
Someone watches Scott's videos
It's everyone's favorite water/poison type!
That reminds me of the time I found a shiny Venomoth in Scarlett, truly an amazing Ice/Flying type
Man y'all got gypped with y'all's Venomoth typing. Mine was an OP Ghost/Normal type that Hard Carried me through the game.
2:42 "Because this is where a lot of Pokémon Struggle"
Mainly electric Pokémon. **chuckles to self**
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26:35 funny enough that ledge was a final boss for twitch plays pokemon, took them at least 12 hours to get past it when they wanted to fight the elite four
Like, real-world hours? Holy heck.
Yeah, but they didn't have to struggle with the ledge at the end of route 9, you win some, you lose some.
That's precisely what I thought JRose was referencing when he mentioned the Ledge!
It's crazy to think a single or maybe two Down inputs could throw the whole attempt off on Route 22 😧
My highlights so far are the passive-aggressive "FINE IT'S BACK" for the old intro and that Scott's Thought's namedrop had me smiling. Glad he was named for the Venomoth run, his favorite Pokémon, the legendary Water/Steel type!
I feel very honoured. Thanks @Jrose11 for another great video.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Don't know if you noticed, but he also named his character Scott, and the rival Jrose. I love the fact you guys vibe together. Always loved both of your videos
Proud of you, AJ!! I just got a promotion too and it was so hard leaving my boss for another section, but she always told me she was proud, not mad or sad, and that helped 🥰
Diulei
"Growlith can't hit me because it has agility." What a gen 1 thing to say lol. Nice video!
THE ATV
Slayer of Dragonite!
All-Terrain 🫡
Me: Can’t sleep
JRose: uploads a video at 3:20 in the morning
Me: Bless you, sweet prince
Same here😊
Same 😭
With old intro
It's 3: 20 in the afternoon here in Taiwan. I throw this on while cleaning my bathroom.
Also me: Cinderella??
I adore that you called the trainer in the run Scott. Such a vibe that the pokemon content creators on RUclips respect each other a lot.
I have infinite respect for @Jrose11
@sebastianthurow605 I believe that's the Rival's name this time
Yay, old intro!
Let’s see how well this Psychic/Flying moth can do!
Psychic flying? It's ground/fairy.
it's water/fire tho
It's dark steel
It's rock fire
you are all wrong it's sound and light type
JRose; genuinely thank you for putting the intro back. Some nights I get depressed and sometimes when I'm like that I watch some of your older videos and that little intro in that short few seconds makes me feel like everything will be ok. I love all your videos regardless ; intro or no intro thank you for all you do!!!❤
Our prayers have been answered. I don't care how Venomoth is ranked compared to other evolved Pokemon, it will always be #1 in my heart.
based
Everyones favourite dragon/fairy pokemon.
If you don't mind me asking, where did the "we don't know Venemoth's type" meme come from? I've seen it a few here and there, and I don't know why.
@@DaDMonDCBfellow challenge runners Scott's Thought, who infamously got Venomoth's type wrong and it became a meme there
@@DaDMonDCBI think it's from Scotts thoughts channel.
@@DaDMonDCB i know know if this was where it started but i know the youtuber scott's thoughts is where i got it from. Hes definitely a mono rock type btw.
@DaDMonDCB It's from Scott's Thoughts. He initially got the types wrong accidentally a couple of times but now does it intentionally every single time as a running gag.
THE INTRO IS BACK my life has peaked once again
I don't know how to feel knowing that Cinderella 2 was also a foundational part of your childhood. Do you also catch yourself randomly thinking about it in your day? Like the part where the mouse turns into a man and tries to date a human woman? Because I do, despite how often I would fall asleep to it.
How old are you all? I remember seeing Cinderella 2 but probably only once, lol
*Edit: I'm 36, figured I should add that since I asked first, lol
I don't recall Jack-Jack ever trying to date someone. He turned into a human because he figured Cinderella had no more interest in him as a friend after becoming a Princess and having way more human company.
... Great, now the movie's going to be bouncing around in my head again.
I argue that the boss in Rock Tunnel with the self destruct Geodude and Graveler should be named the "Pop Rocks" trainer!
0:03 YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This Venomoth run gets the OG Bug Catcher official stamp of approval! 👍
Let's go, looking forward to seeing how this Psychic/Dragon type does!
In my opinion Magmar is the most underrated and overlooked Pokémon ever. No one talks about him hardly. He’s always been my favorite of all time in the series and the games. Blaine don’t even have him on his team in red and blue or yellow. And he was his ace in the show. Just made no sense to me.
Boober
Funny japanese name
You know, this run had a lot in common with the plot of Cinderella 2: Dreams Come True, where Misty and Lorelei being the hardest fights represent Drizella and the Wicked Stepmother, and Agatha surprisingly being very easy represents Anastasia, the stepsister who gets a redemption arc and becomes a good person 🤔 Makes you think
When Scott’s Thoughts did a Kadabra run, he had to endure the patience of an individual who does not speedrun much, and therefore struggled.
Here, when JRose uses Venomoth, the Psychic-Flying Pokémon, he has to come to terms why Butterfree was abandoned long ago.
Worlds collide, videos are made.
Holy cow, for the first time ever he recognizes the existence of Scott's Thoughts!
Very cool to see. I would love to see a collaboration between you two!
We got the old intro back lets fucking gooooooooo🎉
The Dragonslayer ATV has risen
I love when the Poketubers I watch mention other Poketubers. I wonder if Scott's Thoughts has watched this video yet.
Congrats AJ!
You’re doing great Shaun (Sean? Shawn?).
Keep up the excellent content. The editing and commentary is always entertaining!
11:55 3 crits in a row and a burn, lovely
I found your channel a few weeks ago and have been binging this series ever since. Literally just finished watching the Cubone last night, and then this video pops up in my notifications. Just wanna say thanks for doing what you do, these challenge runs and solo runs are amazing and fun to watch ^_^
Jrose, Venomoth is incredibly good in the later games. I recently used it in a solo run of BDSP and it was absolutely stellar. It was one of the the few Pokemon that first try'd the Elite Four + Cynthia (alongside Clefable and Golduck). It entered the Hall of Fame at Lv. 71, had the Tinted Lens ability and its move set was:
- Quiver Dance
- Giga Drain
- Bug Buzz
- Roost
Tinted Lens doubles the damage you do against all targets that resist your attacks, meaning you do 1x damage against a Pokemon with an ordinary resistance (instead of 0.5x) and 0.5x damage against a Pokemon with a double resistance (instead of 0.25x). This is incredibly powerful, since it drastically reduces the necessity for type diversity among your moves. There wasn't a single opponent I didn't do at least 1x damage against and combined with Quiver Dance and HP restoring moves, this made for a deadly combo. The Spiritomb Cynthia leads off with for example doesn't have a single Physical Attack. So you can just set up six Quiver Dances, heal inbetween with Roost and then proceed to sweep her entire team in one fell swoop. And on top of all that, Venomoth's poison typing makes it immune against Toxic, which is something I'm struggling with with a lot of Pokemon when facing Aaron and Bertha.
Edit: I am currently on an Arcanine-only playthrough and Arcanine is struggling a lot more in the endgame. I'm currently on my third try to get through the Elite Four (at Lv. 66), after being stopped by Bertha on my first two tries, and it seems I'll still need a few more levels to beat her. Arcanine has access to Sunny Day and Solar Beam, but its real party piece is Burn Up, which gets rid of its Fire typing and thus all of its weaknesses. However Bertha's Ground/Rock type Pokemon are hitting hard regardless (and of course there's also Quagsire's Toxic 😒). So I'm going to be here for a little longer.
I love the way Shawn edits these, and his little commentary too! 😆 The badges and the time stamp on when you got them is fantastic! I'm glad all is good with AJ. I did wonder about him, and hoped he was okay.
Love the Scotts Thoughts shotout! Team Dome Fossil Supremacy
There isn't a choice. Dome Fossil must be taken.
so iv been watching jrose for years now and i know he's generally genuine with his sponsors, so i immediately downloaded the demo for yaoling to try it out and i have to say, i think this is my absolute favorite of his sponsors. well worth the $20 and thank you jrose for making me aware about such an indie gem. people need to try this game!
"Fine it's back"
Me: YAY it's back!
Definitely loved seeing how well this one did. Can't wait for the next one. I know I am still looking forward to the mid stage runs, namely the haunter, starters, and gloom just to see if it can make up for the poor oddish. Maybe even the kadabra or pidgeotto will make their appearance soon. So many videos you have completed and yet so many left to do.
Thank you for all the content. Both of the past and future ones. And kudos to the editors who help behind scenes
Backup Kadabra? How dare you insult the DRAGON SLAYER like that!
I love how every time you explain your choices and why you decide to reset or not. Good work, I love these runs :)
9:20 another Scott’s Thoughts reference! Let’s go!
This video is so special, intro is back and there's an interaction between jrose and Scott, loved it! Also I must say that I love the new editing and animations. Now, jrose, let's talk about sandslash, which I've been asking for so long😂 next one?
Love seeing all the Scott's Thoughts fans in the comments 😄😄😄
I was wondering what was wrong with your voice, but I'm glad you're doing okay.
This series just keeps getting better and better
I finally relate to all those comments I’ve seen of people who stay up late because they saw a new jrose video as they were going to bed
Can't believe it is the electric/flying Venomoth this time! It was really nice of you to name the trainer Scott.
Venomoth was one of my first Psychic backups if I didn't have Kadabra or Alakazam for this game because it had Psybeam and that was a favorite move because it looked like a Kamehameha from DBZ which was incredibly popular at the time.
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Nowadays, it's known that Focus Blast is the Kamehameha. You can thank the Generation 6 anime for that.
@@gmsloep oh really? I haven't played any of the Pokemon games after Yellow and I haven't watched past the first couple seasons of the show, although I have somewhat kept up on the new Pokemon through cards and videos on RUclips.
I'm guessing there was a Pokemon that actually does the motion and everything so it really looks like a DBZ fireball?
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@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269 Yep. Korrina's Machoke, in the Fighting gym. Look up "Machoke Kamehameha" and you'll find the clip, just with Goku's voice edited in.
@@gmsloep really? A Machoke? Huh, that's one of the last Pokemon I would have imagined using a move like that.🤦♂️
Whatever, I'm sure it was pretty hype for some people when it happened.
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@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269 it makes more sense once you know that 1) Focus Blast is a Fighting move introduced in Generation 4, and 2) Generation 6 was when the anime started going nuts with references to other shows. Jojo, Gundam, Dragon Ball, the references are everywhere.
This was so much fun to watch on stream! After so many videos it's rough sometimes, but we all appreciate your efforts making these solo runs! Thanks for all the great content Jrose!
Cinderella 2 is indeed terrible, but Cinderella 3? Qctually great.
THE HELL!?!? I had to check the time this launched to make sure it wasn't an older video! AND IT HAS THE INTRO! OMG! THANK YOU FOR THAT JROSE!
Piano is back! Next the count?
Many other people have said it.... But engagement is engagement. I was very happy to see the intro again. :)
Obviously best Psychic/Flying type
What a coincidence! I was just about to watch your older stuff, as I do on a near daily basis. Venomoth is going to be interesting.
Interestingly, that's not a moth. Venomoth is just the name the English translators picked. Its original Japanese name is "Morphon", and Morpho is a genus of butterfly.
I read that switching Morphon and Butterfree's sprites was not a mistake, but a deliberate choice. They were planning the cartoon before they released the game, wanted Caterpie to evolve into something cute in the cartoon, and Butterfree was not cute at all. Morphon was (it looks like a winged Venonat/Konpan, given that that's exactly what it was designed to be). So they switched them around. I don't know if that's been confirmed by the developers or if that's just a fan hypothesis that grew until people thought it was correct.
That sounds quite unlikely. The game wasn't expected to be a huge hit, the anime and manga were created because of the game's success, it couldn't have been planned before the game was released. Wikipedia has an exact timeline. The anime was suggested months after the game's released, and the idea was even resisted a bit because if the anime flopped, it could affect the game sales.
Butterfree seems to be inspired by Aporia crataegi... That butterfly looks like Butterfree and its larva looks like a caterpie with wrong colors.
@@Kleyguerth It's possible, but... if they came up with the anime after waiting to see if the the game was successful, they were really really quick to make it. The game came out late February 1996, the anime April 1st 1997. Assuming they decided the game was successful after just a month, immediately decided to make an anime, and somehow got all the details sorted out quickly enough to start production just two months later, that would have left them 10 months to make it before it started airing. Impressive.
Pokémon's creator is a huge fan of insects, he's a real life Bug Catcher. Caterpie and Metapod are actual existing creatures (identical, with the right colors), and the butterfly that they turn into (eastern tiger swallowtail) has Venomoth's wings. Venomoth also has Caterpie's eyes (unlike Butterfree) and Metapod's head shape. And obviously "Butterfree" looks exactly like an evolved Venonat. There can be no doubt the current final forms are switched. They don't match their previous form at all, and perfectly match each other's previous forms.
@@BigSlimyBlob The switching part is possible, but "because anime" isn't.
The anime idea was first brought up in August 1996 (per wikipedia). It was approved in September. Producing an anime doesn't take too long.
@@Kleyguerth Admittedly I am not at all knowledgeable in animation production time, but if it was approved in September, they would have made it in seven months. I find that very impressive.
Oh, there's absolutely no doubt the sprites were switched, it's beyond obvious just looking at Venonat and "Buttefree" side by side. But I have never been able to find out why. The "it's for the anime" thing was the only semi-decent explanation I've read for it, and the people who made the claim were certain that this was the reason (though of course that does not prove they were right).
If they did it deliberately, I really would like to know why. But it's very possible that it might simply be that the artist meant something and the coder just used the wrong sprite's code for each creature.
There's no proof of the sprites being switched from any of the gen 1 betas iirc. they've always been in the lines they are. What did happen was that blastoise comes from a separate water turtle line that got scrapped and it became the new evolution to wartortle, who's previous evolution was just a bigger wartortle
Wasn't expecting the scathing review of Cinderella 2 in this speedrun, but it was very much needed lol
Love that passive aggressive intro card 😂
It’s 3 am… I was about to go to sleep. But I see new JRose video posted. It can wait for another 36:33 minutes
Yay the Psychic Flying type
Because of Scott's Thoughts, i legitimately don't know venomoth's typing. 🤣🤣🤣
That Brock fight was so good
I'm immediately liking and commenting for the intro returning~
Did you try to Disable Starmie's Bubblebeam?
Jrose11 be like... im jrose11
He be doing that
The return of the intro sound marks the beginning of the year of Jrose.
Watching this while digging though a book's bibliography section, and I cam across an article by P. Shipman and J. Rose.
Neat.
So I previously gave constructive feedback to the new editor that I really like the new animations, but they blocked various details of the moveset on previous videos.
Big kudos to the great compromise here where you still show an animated Venomoth, but dont block the moves.
Awesome work!
Hope you see this!
OH FUCK YES, INTRO TIME
My brother and i still make fun of lion king 2 to this day. We randomly shout "I'll do it for you mother!"
FINALLY, 3am
9:25 am :)
Jrose is the only RUclipsr whose ad reads I don’t skip, especially since most of the time it’s a game I would actually want to play
Jrose's channel is like the baker romance subplot in Cinderella 2: Dreams Come True; it's genuinely pretty good
Is it really fair to keep comparing everything to Mewtwo? Mewtwo is objectively the best pokemon, it's odd to expect anything, especially a bug type, to compare to Mewtwo
All I'll say is after a rubbish week, that little jingle was all I needed. As always love the content!
Venomoth is the best fairy/fire pokemon.
Glad the intro is back. Much needed.
Venomoth’s worst enemy in this run
POCKET SAND!
The new editing being done is nice. Definitely a nice stylistic change
Intro is back and I love it! Great video bud.
Jrosse you crack me up! LMAO “Fine, it’s back!”
Uploading at 12:20 pst? You know your audience.
I fall asleep to your stuff every night, thank you for my Pokemon ambien
Man, watching your runs makes me feel bad I took the 3DS and the downloadable Red, blue (& yellow) versions for granted and never really playing them due to such old and obsolete graphics but your runs make them feel SO tempting to play, the JRose run way! 😊
JRose goes full mad lad with Cinderella two and I’m here for it
“Congratulations! Your Venonat has evolved into Backup Kadabra’”
Scott's Thoughts is going to love this
It's just feels right with the intro, thank you! ❤
Yes! Old school intro us back!!
Hey what type is Venemoth?
This is the best way to just unwind after a long ass day
Thanks
23:38 Totally agree, Cinderella 3 is very good! I'd put it in the top tier of Disney direct-to-video sequels alongside Aladdin & the King of Thieves and Lion King 2.
Always really liked Venomoth, I've used one in my Blue team way back in the day. It's also underrated competitively thanks to Tinted Lens. Amazing vid once again dude.
so i was gonna leave a comment a long time ago saying that i preferred the videos where the current time was sorta kept secret until the end! i didn't because i like the content so much i didn't want to be a critic in any way 😂 i'm not sure there's any videos where it was completely hidden, but there are definitely some where you don't see many save screens or anything that could give you an update. i liked the mystery and reveal at the end. but now that the times are on the side throughout, i do actually prefer this a little better! it lets you know how it's going as it's going, different experience but very enjoyable! thanks for all the videos jrose we love you
Nice to see the intro again. And nice to see you using the very first Steel-Dark type.
Hey the new editor is great but i am glad to hear that AJ is good too
Man, that would have been an awesome run if he hadn't used the rare candies. He had made to the champion without them.
YAY THE INTRO IS BACK 🎉🎉 😊