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How To Choose A Brushless Speed Controller - Scalers, Rock Racers & More - Holmes Hobbies RC Basics
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2019
- Choosing the best electronic speeed control for your radio control rock racer, scale truck, competition rig or whatever off-road RC you wheel is no easy task. In this video John Holmes of Holmes Hobbies sits down to talk about some of the best options you should look at for your particular vehicle. This video talks specifically about sensored and sensorless brushless ESC's. Want the perfect ESC for your rig? Grab some popcorn and enjoy the lesson.
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It's always nice to see a manufacturer discuss all of the good products honestly, instead of only talking about their product and often bashing other brands. Well done!
I'll make some vids pimping my own products one day I suppose, lol!
I remember my first hobby grade rc car (traxxas rustler) had a mechanical speed controller which used a servo and a resistor
I rember my 1st was the blackfoot same way
Yep tamiya hornet for me. Followed by a tamiya boomerang.
My first RC10 Goldpan car dud also. Gor it in 1989, and then a JRX2 in 1991 with a novak esc
I've got the Gmade R1 with the V2 Stealth body kit running the Xerun AXE system from Hobbywing. It's a sick system with bluetooth to adjust any and all parameters through their app. I love it, especially the crapton of power it delivers. My servo is even stronger as I was able to up the power it receives. Lightweight and beautiful, too!
Best crawler tec info On RUclips..!!! GO HOLMS..!!!!
Wish I would’ve found you two days ago. You have helped me save days worth of headaches. Everything I need to know. Awesome! Thankyou! Just what the doc ordered
I have 2 TRX4's 2 Scx10.2 and a vaterra ascender. I run a castle mamba X in my trx4 and couldn't ask for a better esc. It has the low speed control to rock crawl and the torque to get over almost anything but then you got the power of the brushless to help you hope up on rocks.
I have basically a bone stock trx4 but I got a savox sw1210 and some proline hyrax tries, and some bead locks, now I am saving up for a mamba x crawler editions with the 3900kv motor
For the hell of it and because I already had them, I installed a 160amp hobbywing xr10 pro esc which does have crawler settings and a sensored 21.5t Trinity slot machine motor into a scx10.3 trail rig and it is by far the best set up I’ve used . Unreal low speed control and is every bit as good as my HW fusion pro.
Those trinity motors had great startup for a two pole. But 21.5 better have good start up because that's slooooow! If it was a higher kv it would show more deficiency against modern stuff.
Vaterra ascender, sidewinder 4 with 1800kv revolver on venom 3s 5000mah. Axial wraith, mamba x with 3800kv slate motor 3s 5000mah venom as well. Both killer set ups the revolver motor is one of the most amazing motors I’ve had!
How do you like the sidewinder?
TRX-4 Defender, which is now a Bronco, with Mamba X and one of your 1800kv revolvers on 3s and 9 tooth pinion. Love it, works awesome!
Next rig will likely be a TRX-4 Sport with a Mamba X and a sensored low kv brushless, either one of your Puller Pro 540's, or maybe a Castle Slate motor. Got to say though the Redcat Gen 8 looks very interesting and could also be in the running.
Just lowered pricing on Pullers, hint hint :) Thanks for the support!
@@HolmesHobbies Quite a way away from my second truck ... I can't seem to stop spending money on the first one....lol
@@CanadianWR450 I have the TRX-4 Sport with HH BLE and Puller Pro 4500kv. Geared 15/39 (lowest I could go) and with underdrive gears front and rear I get an internal ratio of around 17.89:1. Its buttery smooth but still gets me plenty of wheel speed and its cool to the touch! Although I have GearHead RC beadlock wheels and Hyrax 1.9's, I've been using Badlands 2.8. I currently have it weighing in at 6.64lbs not including my SMC 3s 4500 90C battery.
One of my sons has a Wraith with the 1800 kv Revolver and a Sidewinder 3. Im waiting to mate it to a Mamba X so he can run 4s but right now I have it tuned for a pretty smooth startup on 3s.. My other son has a Bomber with the HH BLE+2700kv Trailmaster Pro combo and that combo works really well too. You really can't go wrong with Holmes Hobbies
Put a Mamba X in my Wraith last spring, running a 2850 with stock gearing on 2s at 75% power and it's faster then all my friends rigs with unbelievable low speed control and torque.
New to the hobby in my '50s so much to learn thank you I went with the Mambo x and a 14-12 2100 KV so both are capable of 4S I am putting this in losi hammeray The stock electronics are just two cloggy for me that being said I have put many of your products in Traxxas TRX4s and vanquish VS 410 And I am amazed by your products they work extremely well I tried to buy only American products PS when you going to get around to building that electric bike lol
Great video John! Always informative! I only use brushless in my U4 type of rigs. On the GOM I'm using a Mamba X + Puller Pro 3500kv.
Castle 🏰 for life
Great video. I've learned some stuff watching this.
Great, that's what I'm hoping for!
As a newbie to the hobbie... thank you... been looking to upgrade my Honcho scx102 with front dig...currently running stock brushed 35 turn... I think I will take your advice and go with the mamba x very soon... cheers bro!
I use a pair of mamba X and a pair of 3200kv in my all aluminum clod buster. It’s a trail monster truck. I get over an hour of runtime on a 3s 6000. Running diy arduino radio. It’s equally at home at the trail and the races. I haven’t broken a part in 2 years. Cost me less than $1,000 total. I love it more than my Xmaxx. Sensored or die.
Love your informative videos Mr Holmes. Keep up the great work. Am currently waiting on a 540 revolver and cant wait to try it.
For Trail i use the Trx4 with a HB Fusion Pro 2300, super and Will not break or Go Down On Power🤷🏽♂️
For Rock Crawler/Comp i use SCX10 PRO with a Mamba X WP an 1406Series 2850 KV Crawler Edition On 4S..!! That slow control and Torqe and that Wild speed and Power is unmatch still after 6-7 years😏👌🏾
I Love that Mamba X system..!!!!
I’m about to pick up a hobbywing xr10 justock esc and a castle 1406 for my scx10 honcho that’s a trail rig. Here in central Florida we have mostly swamp so I had to build a course in my yard
3S is my go-to voltage on everything that I run. I don't really do much bashing anymore since I don't use my traxxas stuff anymore.
I'm still beating the crap out of my Holmes hobbies br-xl waterproof from about eight years ago in my tf2 and still love it like the day I first bought it. Was going to go brushless but ended up being happy with my setup the way it is with the rc4wd 45t brushed motor.
If you do decide to get a new one, the latest hardware of about 4 years and newer has the on throttle drag and drag ramp features, even better downhill control
@@HolmesHobbies ooohhh stop it like I need new toys rn 😜🤣
Okay John first off every video you’ve made have been very informative thank you. Now I’m building a scx10ii i want to go brushless now I’ve decided on the mamba x, what would be a good Kv to run if I want an all around great trail truck. I will be running comps when possible but mainly hiking some trails also wouldn’t be going I’ve 3s. As for weight I’m using a single cab hard body Yota with a small custom wood bed. So I’m not extremely heavy. Thanks bud 🤙🏽
Now that is a great video, really simple information. I'm running a 3500 kv brushless ( 3670- the volume ? / 36 mm diameter )
motor with a Hobbywing EZRUN MAX10 SCT 120A, which at the moment overheats and does not seem to like the esc cut off function so it just shuts down and kills my batteries ( I run 2s & 3s Li-Po batteries ) . I like speed and I don't bash, so are there any budget solutions cause I don't want to spend a small fortune on an ESC ? Also I run a budget chinese rc, and I'm new to the hobby and I'm not from the US.
At tax time, bought a udr,trx4,and a ultimate slash.Thought it would be cool and give me and the boy some quality time.The udr and the trx felt like entering a hobby. Learning maintenance,buying part no big deal,Hobby's cost money.The slash quickly became my favorite,after one run,ESC, velineon vxl 3 acted up then smoked .My fault for not doing proper research,but you need to be aware.Once I had a problem,no short of finding story on RUclips of these catching on fire.I don't believe sending these in to get more if the same is the answer.Thank for getting me on the path to buying a new esc, new to the hobby I don't have 3.5 mm connectors lying around.What esc work well(bolt right up) factory motors(maybe in a new show). Thank your time and platform to be heard.Any one else had problems with Traxxas esc?
yeah, those escs are well known for catching fire...
Think I'm going with sidewinder 4, and soldier motors leads in direct. Is there a coating on those wires, and the best way for prep them for solder, thank you very much.Loved your history episodes.
John, that might be the most FAIR ESC comparison I've ever seen!!! 🍻👏👏👏👏
You could have said "Buy Holmes or NOTHING". Nobody would have blamed you. But you were very fair, a Gentleman always!
The way things are going, I may never be able to afford Sensorless.... But if I could, your advice was spot on. I only own ONE 3S Battery at the moment. I may never feel the need to go any higher than that. Too many other problems and variables involved with higher Voltage, that I can't afford to deal with. 2S/3S suits my needs just fine.
I competed over 20 years ago. Those Days are behind me. Now I just have Fun, and try to keep my Old, Broken Body walking, with a Trail Rig for motivation!!! 😉
Carmine 💥 ⛽
Nothing at all wrong with an sW4 and Revolver or Puller Pro stubby at this point, it does amazing for being sensorless. I'm also running a sale on sensored BLE combos, and just dropped pricing on Puller Pro motors. So maybe it will be a little closer to being affordable now.
Those are definitely worth a look!!
I actually just copped myself a gelande 2 d90 heritage its pretty nice 👌
I run a heavily modified scx10.2 for crawling and trailing with a mamba micro x and a torquemaster pro. Probably gonna get the trx-4 sport kit this spring. Also if I’m doing way more trailing than crawling I swap in a castle slate 1900kv.
Hobbywing has one for each budget! 😉
I have a Axial Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and just getting into crawling; looking to up grade motor and esc because most people on you tube sayit's theway to go.
Don't really know very much about upgrading it.
Budget is a good place to start. I have BLE TrailMaster brushless combos on sale right now. But you could also just get a better brushed motor, like a TrailMaster Sport or TorqueMaster Expert.
Im loving my gen 8. Running 3s. I want to go brushless but cant afford the right setup. Im not going to sacrifice slow speed control for more power by buying a cheap brushless setup. I was lucky to get the truck.
Sidewinder 4 and Revolver is lower cost but is still really smooth. Also have BLE combos with trailmaster motors on sale too.
@@HolmesHobbies i cant afford your stuff or any of the others.😞
I am taking donations for make Scott's gen 8 awesomer foundation. 😁Sorry no tax brake though.😒
I'm loving the mamba X with a 1800kv revolver on 3s in my marlin crawler TF2 with full interior
Excellent!
scx10 with 2600kv on 2S lipo and sidewinder 4. trail rig (mostly mud and water). Also have mst cfx 1/10 with 2300kv motor on 3S + hobbywing wp 10bl60 - this one is not so smooth, but still I like it sensorless.
swap the HW for a SW4 and it will smooth right out if you ever want better control with sensorless.
Hello my friend, I want your help if you know.. In an excavator I want the right and left rotation to be the same, can the ESC give the same forward and backward speed? what exactly does force reverse do? if not how can i achieve it? If you can answer me please, Thanks
Run HW Axe 550 2700kv in my trx4 on 3s. Came looking for upgrading my SCT.
You should've went over the weight differences that each speed controller can handle. Not many people know about that.
Unless it is a mamba Micro, weight really isn't on the radar unless it is a U4 rig. Then it is really more gearing and track related than anything else.
@@HolmesHobbies what sould i worry about using mamba x 1900 on a u4 crawler
How do I pair up your Revolver stubby sensor less brushless motor to my Mamba X without it beeping that it doesn’t detect sensors ? Please help
trx4 all the way!
Great video . Rr10 bomber trail/ crawler. I have a mamba monster x and a older mamba monster. Havent figured which way to go yet . Fxr and stock motor is currently in it now. Have been running 2s and 3s.Wanting more speed and torque.?
I would use the X with a puller pro 540 3500kv. If you want nuts speed and torque, it will be a monster! I just lowered pricing on the PUller Pro series too. It hasn't trickled through distributors yet, but is lower on my site.
Great vid John. Would like to see mentioned that mamba x can be used with brushed motors as well. This could help if someone can only afford one great esc that would cover other needs. I personally went with the monster x in my Losi Rock Rey 1/9th scale (as I call it) just for bashing around the yard. I use an 1/8 scale motor and run 3s 85% and 4s 15% of the time. I love the adjustments in the castle link software. Being able to set the throttle curve is so awesome. My gears much appreciate it. What about cap packs? Do you recommend or is it over-rated?
Lots of brushless ESC will run brushed motors also, they just don't include it as a feature in their marketing.
@@zedorda1337 Didn't know. I am fairly new to the hobby and even more of a newb to brushless. Did notice that changes had to be made on software (castle) but the only other brushless I have is the Fuze esc/motor that came with the RR. Thanks for the info. What other esc's do this?
@@jeremybaity7002 I haven't had alot of experience do it myself since all but one of my rigs are brushless. But several of my friends have and most also needed a firmware update to make it work without serious cogging. I can't say off hand which do other than castle but it is common.
@@zedorda1337 I will do some digging. Always like to have other options. There is no substitute for brushed in some cases. Love the HH Trailmaster. Cheap and reliable.
@@jeremybaity7002 Only Castle Creation and Holmes Hobbies does Brushless, Sensored, and Brushed motors. Cheap chinese only do one or the other and not very well at that.
I have a legendary thunder truck that I switched out the original brushless motor with a aftermarket Hobby lobby, 4200 I believe the original one is 3200 The problem I am having is that there’s no real start up power. He gets stuck in the grass if you stop please advise.
I have a custom application i need help with but I am not familiar with rc motors brushless or brushed not sure were to go
Hello John. About time for another haircut.
I would like to know more about the revolver, seems hard to find specific information on it, and if it’s still a competitor in today’s market.
I have a scratch built scx10-2, and am buying a TRX-4 sport next week.
Just trails for me. Cheers
Jon from Idaho USA
@jon98tj John has several videos about the TRX4 and Revolver combo. Go to Holmes Hobbies YT page and go over them. A simple search on YT will also show others that have put it in other vehicles and love it.
Thank you Jerry. I did look, but I’ll look again.
@@jon98tj Try this ruclips.net/video/qzDSnR9UxaM/видео.html
Ha, I do need a haircut! Revolver is a practically universal crawler motor, I always have them installed into at least a few rigs. Pretty much all my motors are universal in crawlers. Choose a price point and work from there.
For drag racing mamba x
Planning to put a goolrc 3300kv brushless combo in a redcat gen7
I actually have a rock412 3100 kv on mamba micro x on 3s have ran your pp 3500 on it I just put a high speed fan on it oh it’s in a scx10 but I have never had it over heat with that fan now in the wraith and yeti I have mamba x and use 3s on them got a takin 412HD in the yeti and pp 3500 in wraith
What’s the least I can spend for a reliable truly waterproof esc for my brushless Typhon that will handle being packed with snow and running in wet grass ect?
Curious to know how the Mamba micro x would go running a revolver in a pretty stock weight scx10ii
Axial bomber wondering between puller pro L and castle x or hobbywing axe kit
I have a capra with a 2200kv puller pro and a mamba micro x. Runs for like 10 minutes before it overheats and shuts down.
I run 3s in all of my crawlers, it seems to me like jumping up any higher makes it more difficult to find a motor that is rated for it.
I've purchased some pretty expensive RC electronic parts before just to try them out, but I've never been able to bring myself to buying a Tekin ESC. EDIT: I just looked at prices again and they seem slightly less expensive than last time I looked, still pricey though.
Hey john i have a trx4 sport trying to make it comp but still looking stock im ready to go brushless was looking at the castle mamba x with 1900kv slate motor but also looking at your motors and esc however my trx4 sport is a little fatty have weights in it and loveing it lol i need some help will be doing an install vid on it and cant wait to test your new esc as well
If you still read the comments. I recently picked up a scx10 full metal everything with a 2 door hard body. Very heavy. Has a castle mamba x with a 1900kv castle motor. Is this a good combo for this rig. I do plan on doing mostly snd trails and hill climbs with some mud. Will be on a 5000mah 50c 3s lipo. Or should i use this in a lighter rig and get an 1/8 scale setup or maybe dual brushed setup for the extra torque?
Excellent video John, thanks. I’ve asked this before, could you also touch upon the cost factor? What makes quality ESCs expensive? Maybe a noob question, but really curious. Get well soon!
Lots of factors involved. The base cost is the PCB and how thick the copper is, plus hardware. Good FETs and drivers aren't cheap. Cheap ones might be OK, but have widely varying quality and reliability. More expensive means more power and cooler running, and typically better running. The SW4 and Mamba X controllers are incredible for the price. The BLE controller is also a great controller, but has fallen behind the times and is at the end of life.
@@HolmesHobbies So do you plan on updating the BLE soon?
I race in the dirt on a medium sized track driving a 6s Mojave Iy gets warm rather quick with the all original electronics I want to make it run cooler and smoother at low and high speeds any suggestions? For 8s?
Newest truck is a redcat gen 8 chassis with a proline ram 1500 body running mamba x with castle slate 1406 5700. I really want one of your revolvers. Next motor I want to get.
Trx4 - mamba monster x, 3500kv puller pro and 3S is my main. Backup trucks scx10ii SW4 - revolver 1800kv 3s. And vaterra ascender 27T trailmaster sport also 3s
Power!!!!!
i have 3 crawlers ftx mauler,boom racing d110 pick up landy and a crisima coyote ,have just bought a bully 2 kit i also have to buggies a tuned up grasshopper and a maverrick and i have 5 nitro cars and never enough time to use them also have boats and planes to
Is it ok to go brushless 3000kv 50A esc and run it on nimh 7,2volts 3Ah for 1/10 4×4 off road???? please help me because i can't find something useful anywhere!!!
Awesome video. What speed controller would work in a Losi 22. RTR. THANKS ? ? ?
I'm running the tens shock RC 906 1750kv sensorless motor 6 Pole I do trailing and competition rock crawling are any of these ESC s able to work on a sensorless motor
Wondering same thing I've heard good things about the sv4 with this setup is this enough wheel speed or would u recommend the 2600 tensckock or Maybe its 2200 I forget
@@chrischovanec2093 I had the 1750 kv in my BoomRacing Brx01 had tons of tq. I have since switched over to the hobbywing AXE system
Why'd u switch
@@chrischovanec2093 I really like the power and smoothness to the AXE
Since some people here are vets... Do you think a hobbywing xr8 sct and a castle 1415 2400kv motor be a good setup for mild bashing and a little bit of trailing?
Hi, it's working ESC for brushed with brushless motor?
I have a built rock rey with a tekin roc412 hd 4200kv.. would a tekin rx8 gen2 be good? I mostly do rock racing/ bashing on 2s..
Hobbywing xr8 went bad..
How would you compare tekins sensored esc’s to castle?
What brushless combo would be good for a trx4 bronco I won’t some speed and crawling I run 3s lipo it has the long arm kit w/2.2 wheels and tires I won’t a plug and play system
Mamba X with a 3800kv i run that in my trx4 on a 3s and you can crawl but still have all the power
Mamba X with 2280 or 2850 would do well.
Also the Holmes Hobbies Trailmaster and BLE would do well.
BLE and Trailmaster, which we have on sale in combos. Or mamba X and Puller Pro 540. 2700kv is a great all around for the trx4.
Looking for a new esc for 4s kraton (that caught fire on beach💀😫🤦♂️) um stock esc was a spectrum firma 120a ..looking a skyRC 150a..any other options?
is there a way to put your crawlmaster firmware on copperhead?
Hey John, i just got the Trail master pro BL 2700kv for my Ecto, also using the SHV 800 servo, 3s Lipo, whats a good ESC /BEC for that setup? Thanks!
I got a question and I know this is a odd duck but have a 10 inch wheelbase 10lbs rig on 1.9s running 2 5700kv 4 pole motors and are sensorless and need to run 1 esc to control both motors and yes this thing is super violent mostly tractor pulling but the motor combo is also similar to a clodbuster setup and never could figure out how without 2 esc
You need two ESCs, no way around that with brushless motors.
I have a couple of mamba x escs and they have worked great in my trx4 and 4tec, I had a hobbywing ez run in my rustler and I don't think it was waterproof, it died in the snow
Can anyone tell me if an RC esc exists for hoverboard motors in the 250-350 watt range?
Or maybe put the mamba in my trx (11 lbs) with the puller pro 540 I bought for scx10ii...
Can my motor be to large for the ESC??
Run 3s on my axial scx10II and my traction hobby cragsman but the cragsmans original esc/motor moving for brushless on it n´but its a heavy rig :S
I have a Losi Rock Rey 1/10. I want to be able to slow crawl and also hill climb. Maybe find some mud from time to time. Sticking with 2s with a 3s from time to time. Any recommendations for motor and esc?
My next build is drift I'm starting with tekin redline 2.5t gen 2 so I need a esc that can push my motor to max cause be Im doing drift on and off the road
I'm basically a toy RC hobbyist. I raced Losi years ago, but now just run around the yard, or go to an informal race on a weekend. I buy the low priced stuff, and modify it first for endurance, and then for a little more performance. My question may be easy, or unanswerable.
Can you have too much ESC? Weight and size being equal or close to equal, I've seen some very wide differences in amp, and voltage rating. I also see motor and ESC combos that don't sound quite like a match. example: (35amp ESC for a 4500kv ) You mentioned punch/holeshot being a factor if ESC isn't big enough.
Anyway: My question is this - - Is there any disadvantage to using an ESC that far exceeds the demands of your setup? Weight is not a real concern. Size might be, but if I can fit a high power ESC in whatever I'm building is there any disadvantage to doing so?
Great vids, keep up the great work.
Why dont competitive crawlers like brushless?
What battery voltage do you run in your rig?
HolmesHobbies 3s all the way
3s, Slate 2850
3s 1300amh 1800 and 2200 comp on 1300amh and trial on 2200
3s on a good old brushed tekin fxr combo
Being on the poor side of the Hobby, my best setup so far (for Trailing/Medium Crawling) has been the Hobbywing WL10BL120 ESC with TenShock 1900kv, 6 Pole Sensorless... On 3S Power.
I would LOVE to someday try your HH Revolver with this ESC, which is showing NO sign of quitting in my 11 Pound Wraith with 43/13 Diff Gears, front and rear.
This is my ONLY Brushless Rig (again, money).... My other two are Brushed. A SCX10 II with your BR-XL (LOVE IT!!), and your 30 Turn Handwound, which I wouldn't trade for ANYTHING as far as Brushed Motors go!!
My other is a SCX10 One, with SSD Axles and 43/13 Diff Gears front and rear, with the Axial AE-5 (does the job), and another HH 30 Turn Handwound Crawlmaster. John, THANK YOU for outstanding Brushed Products!! 👍👍
(Do you STILL even make those?)
They are both on 2S. I have yet to try either on 3S, as I only have one 3S Battery.....
I know, TMI!! 😱 I just wanted to give you a snapshot of how someone who can't afford to go Sensorless uses these Products. 😉
SENSORED HAS LIMITATIONS! As you well know. But it is doable!! Um....... If you ever need a Beta Tester who can run Rocks in the HOT Arizona Summer............. 😊😎
Carmine 💥 ⛽
john i have the Mamba X and the pullerpro BL forward its fine but going in reverse its jerky its in my scx 10ii , I would appreciate any information You could give me
Brushless TRX4 !!!
What's the best setup for running a drag car? I'm using a RC 10
I’m fairly new to RC and looking for lots of high speed, but also low speed control for the rocks. Guess I trail and crawl. Have a TrX4 and a Gen 8 axe. Like the smoothness of TRX but love the speed on Gen 8. Is there a combo that will get me best of both worlds? Super appreciate any information on this and always dig the vids🤙 cheers everyone
I keep telling myself “it’s a hobby it’s supposed to be fun...”. My work to play ratio is about 85/15. “If ya ain’t workin on it ya ain’t playin with it!” Obsession doesn’t quite cover. I’ll work on my rustler 4x4 & granite BLX for 8+hrs every night just to get a good run down the main drag through town. Got the whole town to myself mostly. I chase prowlers out of my neighborhood. Hi-Viz orange, high powered flashlights, FPV on the cars & the drone, stupid bright LED’s. I even have a police light bar on the rustler. Lol... k back to work
Would you say the mamba mini would pair well with your puller v2 stubby 2200kv? Just ordered the motor from your site this morning
Since march of last year ive been building a Yeti for rock racing/trail running, whenever I had time that is. I currently went with a side winder3 motor and esc because that what i had in my box O rc stuff haha. Im going sensored soon. What would be a good KV rating for my rig weighing roughly 8lbs with battery? Thanks for the video man, very useful
Mamba X and Puller Pro 3500, hands down favorite. That's what my yetis all have now. There is also the Puller XL, but it doesn't start smooth, and if you want to take it on the trail you want smooth starts.
@@HolmesHobbies Awesome man thank you very much! I always love going out with friends and family to do some trail running and definitely want the smooth start up. I have other ourpose built rigs but ya know how a new build goes, ya wanna run the hell out of it hahaha! Thanks for the reply, I know what I'm going after now.
Soon I will build my 1st trx4 Sport kit, just for trailing and bashing, some climbing/crawling, and I am trying to decide if I should just pair your Trailmaster 21t with a HW1080 and save loads of dough, or if I should go for the bucks and maybe try a sensored brushless system. I'd like to go fast(ish), but I think trouble-free durability and less maintenance time are the key factors for me. Thanks for any thoughts, HH.
Trouble free and you want what??? a Traxxass???
There;s too many variable...unfortunately you cant do test stand...Power/amperage draw , heat...ect on R/C cars...
On an airplane ..you sort of can..i suggest to watch some test stand test video
of motor.prop combo....it's sort of the samething as match pinon the motor's KV and size/wieght of the truck.....The Amperage draw are going to be all over the place...using the SAME MOTOR and KV..using different props..
The same will happen when you change Pinon or spur on a truck..
Why is that important??? if you only have 100 A esc....everything runs fine.
for some reason you decide to swap the pinon...smaller or larger
The Amperage might spike up to 110A or 120A...
Then of course...there's also FOOLs complaining why their esc fried....
This are that brand is a pos....blah..blah..blah.
ESC on R/C trucks arnt exactly cheap..Surely you dont want to fried
them....the same will happen to BATTERIES....if your system runs
fine on 4s....Your motor and esc is happy...but you figure...hey , I'll
just use 3s...it'll just go slow..nothing will go wrong ....Yes , but it might also fry the 3s ...becuase the Motor is going to draw power or suck the life out of that battery super
fast...( generate heat)....Trust me..I ve fried 3s batteries....when the 4s where charging...and I counld wait to play :-P ..
Rule of thumb...Get the highest Amperage your budget will allow...
Read the motor's spec CAREFULLY...It dosnt matter what brand
You can have the SAME CASING SIZE motor...such as a 4076...
the Power rating will be slightly different ...depending on the KV
example...my 4076 2250 KV is only a 4s motor....the 4076 1600KV can use 6s
The 4076 Fried my 3s battery..
The samething can happen...in aircraft model...Over proping AND Underproping
Excellent video! Please let me know if the following components listed below will be good for my heavy rock climber, thank you again and keep up the great work!
- RJ Speed R/C Legends Chassis Kit (RJS2012)
- Tamiya 54358 RS-540 Brushless Torque-- Tuned Motor (10A - 7.2 Volts)
- GoolRC 120A Brushless ESC Waterproof Electric Speed Controller (120A - 7.4Volts)
(Connection: Yellow to yellow & blue to green on motor; Orange not used)
- Flysky FS-i4 AFHDS 2A 2.4GHz 4CH Radio System Transmitter
- Flysky FS-A6 Receiver
- Smraza 45KG Servo Motor Steering High Torque (5Volts - 8.4 Volts)
- Smraza HV 8.4V Coreless Waterproof Digital Servo
- 72 Tooth 48 Pitch Spur Gear
- 12 Tooth 48 Pitch Pinion Gear
Your motor and servo will leave a lot to be desired in the control department. You would be better off with a brushed setup for low cost or am32 esc and outrunner for mid to high cost
@@HolmesHobbies Thank you very much for your speedy reply. The end result will need to carry a very heavy load since my build will weigh between 5 - 10 pounds. Basically I am building a full size Mouse Droid from Star Wars. My budget is about $150 for both maybe more if needed. What high torque motor and ESC would you recommend for this application that would fit into my RJ Speed R/C Legends Chassis Kit RJS2012. Are the other components mentioned earlier OK for my build? Thank you again for your valuable input, I appreciate it very much!
John, I bought a Mamba x off you to power my Puller Pro V2. I have a question about my Mamba x. The one you show in this video has a white connector with several wires that go into the controller that mine didn't come with. What is that for and should I have gotten one?
John….I need your help! I’m running a puller pro r 540l v2 2700kv in my ryft paired with a mamba x, running a 16t pinion, 1 down from stock. When I run it on a 4s lihv 100c, periodically I keep getting an excessive load error tone?!? Rig is right at 9lbs, does fine on 3s lihv, trying to figure out this issue, any ideas, all connections and soldering is spot on?
Curious if I need a bigger esc? Monster x possibly, or just gear up on 3s… to get wheel speed? I’m stumped
Gear it down more for 4s (don't gear up 3s), add more punch control, or bigger esc.
Thanks for the input
Built my first ever crawler from scratch, I've got the Traxxas Velineon motor/ESC in it running on 3s but there's no drag brake. Would the Mamba X be good for my rig? I've had a few people to tell me that's what I should get.
So interesting video , I wish you could just give some advice on motor /ESC vs wight of the vehicle. at least with Castle Creations they tend to specify the maximum weight required but more companies actually don't
Weight really isn't a driving factor in crawlers. Gearing , kv, and voltage play a larger role.
I've got a traxxas rustler 4x4 (not the vxl model) I want to upgrade from brushed to brushless... anything that runs 2s to 4s ... any suggestions? Anything that gives me that wheelie pop would be much appreciated.
3500 puller Pro 540 and mamba X would be a rocking combo. Thats what I have in my 4x4 stampede, mostly run 3s.
I'm trying to decide between a 2700kv PP stubby and micro x or a 2700kv standard length with a mamba x
@HolmesHobbies Another good informative video thanks. I am considering going brushless in my Capra. Would the Revolver V2 1400kv or 1800kv on 3S lipo be a good choice? And would the Hobbywing Just Stock be suitable to get me going as I have a spare one? Then change to a Castle Mamba Micro X at a later date when funds allow?
Hello, I am using a 180kv motor 12poles from a Mercedess benz radiator cooling fan in my electric bicycle and it is rated at 600w at 14,4v or 12v. It was my first attempt to create an e-bike, and with a 4series 18650s top rpm is about 2700rpm. I am using the cheapest esc i could find which is a "200" amps red brick. I ride it daily 1500miles+, it runs 30 miles with a 500wh battery single charge it keeps 450wats of constant power. I want to upgrade it by using 6series 100A battery pack and mamba x or something, but is it worth it? Now when i start climbing steep hills I have to keep lets say 500rpm or so, otherwise it cannot adjust itself to the low rpm and stalls. And if i push the handle up to the top, it loses rpm tracking, but if I start peddling and turn like 70% throttle it does keep up and adjust itself accelerating smoothly. So it looks like the controller does not have the bottom end up to 400-500rpm, and the very top 10% or so. What I want to know is what if I use other low kv motors from regular cars, there are some powerful brushless power steering motors, or the 100A alternator that has lots of poles and I have modified the rotor to have a neodymium magnet I have tested with a red brick today, peak power was 924w at 85Amps and 4 series... But if I try to slow it down when it's running at it's peak, it loses rpm very fast and if i leave it running at 2000rpm i can stop it up to lets say 500rpm it adjusts itself to the rpm change, but then it stalls. How good would a mamba x be with a setup like this, where the motor is lets say 200kv 50-100Amps? Thank you!
If motor is going in reverse direction, just switch any 2 of the 3 wires going to the motor. The motor will run in the right direction. Don't need to flip the transmission around or differential around. Am I missing something.
Older sensored systems didn't always have reverse options.
Here is what I got going on .I'm running 1/8 scale e buggys at my track ,getting my butt kick. I need more speed but I can only run a 2 cell lipo at this track . 15 min heat race, 30 mains what the best esc motor combo?? Please help me in would like to win a race every now and then 😟
im looking into my options for motor and ESC for a comp crawler (not super serious comps, but definatly dedicated).
g-speed chassis, and trying to keep weight low (COG and total weight).
wanting to run 3S, and like to have wheel speed there when required as here in New Zealand we dont get to massive rock formations all that often.
many people (in the US etc) with the Gspeed seem to be going to the yellow jacket or the revolver, and i love the idea of them for weight etc, but im a little cautious as i have read they dont like dirt etc?
i was leaning towards a 2000kv yellow jacket with mamba micro or a revolver snub with mamba micro, but after watching a bunch of your vids over the last day im reconsidering with all the talk of puller pros etc.
whats your thoughts?
cheers.