DeWALT 20V MAX 7-1/4'' Cordless Sliding Compound Miter Saw Is MISSING KEY FEATURES!
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2019
- DeWALT 20V MAX 7-1/4'' Cordless Sliding Compound Miter Saw Is MISSING KEY FEATURES! Vince and Jimmy tell the #verycoolgang all their pros and cons of the Dewalt miter saw in this video and talk about some key features that are missing from the saw. Let us know your thoughts on this DeWALT (DCS361B) 20V Max 7-1/4'' Cordless Sliding Compound Miter Saw in the comments section below and if you agree or disagree with the pros and cons.
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Ok guys. You're late to the game. I've had this saw for almost 2 years now. Have done 4 full remodels and a lot of smaller jobs too with it. I'd say 90% of the time the lighting is NOWHERE near as bright as on your lit area and the cut line is awesome and shows up sooner. Most of us check the blade anyways. If anything the saw has sped up production for us. I'd say the biggest PRO to the saw is the fact that when you are dragging out saws and putting them back up every day in a trailer that a 25 pound saw versus a 65 pound saw makes a big difference after a year or two. Blades are cheaper. Its battery powered. No flexvolt needed. It's cheap when you compare it to the 10.and 12" offerings out there. I'm just glad to have it and it makes you wanna pull out the miter saw when there are those times that you just have a cut or 2 to make and in the past are tempted to use the circular saw because of the hassle of pulling out the 12" monster that weighs as much as an 11 year old kid! I can say that in 2 years not one time has it not worked or broken down and that's after thousands of cuts. Framed, trimmed, floored, you name it. Good purchase...keep up the good work.
Do they make an adapter so you can plug it into the wall to do you know? 🔌
web1187 DeWALT does have an adapter that converts 110. VAC wall outlet into “20V” that plugs into any 20V tool by sliding into the battery slot. So, yes.
@@catlady8324 link? I can’t find anything like that.
Edit: Did some research. This is not the case. There is only one battery powered Dewalt Miter saw that works with an AC adapter. It’s the DHS790, not this one.
WHEN I WAS 11 YRS. OLD, I WAS 6'2" AND WEIGHED 265 LBS. YOU MUST HAVE A HEAVY MITER SAW.
These are the type of review i like to hear. 👍🏼
I've been using mine for close to 3 years and we worked remodels with no power sometimes and doing 2x4 framing and miles of base boards mostly and its amazing still
It’s gonna be 4 years since I bought this saw and I love it. It’s lightweight, compact, I use my compact miter saw stand which looks nice on it. I don’t cut anything bigger than 2x8, baseboards, window and door trims, small projects here and there. Just wish it was a double bevel. You can cut a 2x10 but that’s an awkward cut.
I helped 2 friends build carports this summer using this saw. It saved alot of time. I liked it so much I decided to to buy one for my house.
when it comes to tools everything I have is Milwaukee when it comes to the chop box and a table saw DeWalt only I got two 12in also dual bevel compound miter but when it comes to trim I love that little saw very light easy to move around
I bought mine a year ago. I use it for cutting trim and vinyl flooring mainly. Super light to move around and plenty of power. My only negative is there is no dual bevel. I hate flip flopping boards. But I'm on Dewalt platform and it's made me plenty of money. I recommend it.
Bought the saw a few years back and love it. Lightweight and plenty of power. Mainly used for window casings and baseboard, but have brought it out while cutting fence pickets on smaller jobs. I wish the cut line light was better quality like the 12", but for smaller stuff its no big deal.
I got that saw for Christmas and it is just perfect for the home DIY guy that doesn't need a monster miter saw that is really heavy and big.
This video was GREAT. I love the honesty. I love the pro and con breakdown being polite but not worry about Not Liking it.
More videos like this. !!!
I've had the UK version of this for about 4 years. Great bit of kit. I only discovered a few months ago that the base of the saw fits on the 1.0 tough system boxes so no need for a stand. (also found out it doesn't fit on the 2.0 boxes. ) Never seen this mentioned by anyone else? Keep up the good work chaps.
Love a nice and fresh tool review video on Saturday morning!
I have the Craftsman V20 version of this saw. It's nearly identical, but the Craftsman does have a depth stop for cutting dados & I got the kit for $203 out the door. It's a great DIY saw & I've used it for a few projects with no issues. It's also very accurate & I was able to grab an extra 2 pack of 4ah batteries for $79
Good unboxing! Thanks for sharing Vince & Jimmy looks like a nice saw 😊
I bought this saw simply for warranty and coming back and fixing subs work. Flooring, trim, etc. Also it fits in the van and stays there as opposed to going to the garage and pulling out the 10 or 12. I am a fan.
Love that saw. Light weight and great for when you only have a few pieces of trim to cut. Replaced the hand miter box!😆 . I've used to install floors also. Great saw and easy in the back!!
I got that saw and I'm very happy with it. I cut the whole footer with a 5ah battery! I see what you mean about the positionning system but it didn't bother me much since I double-check my cut line with the blade anyway.
hows battery life. did u ever consider the 60v flexvolt model?
I got the kit version of this saw back in july on amazon for 299 and the more I use it the more I like it.
Awesome deal
I have been watching your youtube channel about an month ago and it has been like sitting in a how to buy the right tools 101 class. You helped me out big time on black Friday with the deals. I just brought my first home in NJ and I am a becoming a DYI guy. Thanks brother.
Agree with a few others that this saw sounds way different than mine, which I've had since they first came out. My main gripe is that the motor does limit cut depth when mitered to the right for cutting material vertically. Also, the shadow line works better the more dimly lit the room is unfortunately. Still a great saw, I've used mine a ton.
Glad i got some insight on this saw. This was %100 helpful in my decision. I absolutely love the bickering between thees 2😂😂😂
cody moore hvcx
Great pro and con breakdown, you guys know ur tools, bringing up valid points, one thing, the Milwaukee is too much coin compared to this...
This saw is 5 years old now... I want one but not if there's a new one coming soon.. Anyone know if there's a new one in the pipeline??
I had 780 12” for 6 years and its still running like new, bought new 12” flexvolt and realy loving that one but this 7 1/4 is my favorite saw to take , light and enough for most things i cut , 12” only comes to job site when im doing crown , in shop i have 12” bosh glide , i like it because its nicely against the wall but there is something that just doesn’t feel right , not sure what it is but dewalt miter saws imo are the best and yes i was checking out festool kapex still went with dewalt tho
It's probably good for punch out not having to break out a big chopsaw for something that would take only a few cuts. It's light weight and compact. But for full trim packages I think it would slow me down cause of lack of features that the 12 has. It could assist a 12in in doing basic cuts leaving the 12 open to do all the fancy cuts on bigger material picking up production.
Great videos guys, I'm in the market for a mitre saw and I hadn't considered a 7 1/4 but after this video that size may work for me for trim and flooring, thanks guys!!
Thanks Shizz!
I'm a Dewalt Guy .... but I went with the Milwaukee 7 1/4 miter saw and it kills dewalt..
I tapped a 5 mm thread and have a bolt that I put in when I cut dados - it was the only thing missing and took 5 min to fix, 2 of which was finding the right bolt. Also tapped a hole in the front to store it when not being used
Enjoyed your review you guys.
This little saw is a new purchase for me and have yet to use it past test cutting to do an out of the box adjustment check. But? It's definitely powerful and well built enough to have me growing my son's shared Dewalt platform here! (instead of my Milwaukee M18/M12 platform with their offering). $170.00 difference and for what we expect to use this for? This little guy's quality can probably put up with watching us drag out the corded 12 inch slider occasionally.
The season is just starting and really looking forward to using it along cedar fence lines and on interior/exterior trim work. It'll be a game changer for us and have no problem doing a little flip/flop with some crown work once in awhile. (A coping mechanism I guess?) Lol
Again. Really enjoy your channel....fun watch!
We've got one at work. It's an awesome little portable saw. My only complaint is, Dewalt should have made the dust port the same size as their 20v vacuum hose. Without any adapters for me to lose.
did a beautiful 8x16 deck 1 five amp battery almost lasted all day . a little underpowered but really awesome.the thinner blade helps to eliminate drag .room base trim and casings .... totally awesome .with very little dust . Guys try using it first before a user review!
Single bevel is a deal breaker for me. I just sold this saw because of that. Everything else was great. I didn't see an issue with the shadow line system as you did. I was able to line it up just fine a good distance before I got to the mark.
You guys complain about not being able to see the shadow line cut indication. I have NEVER owned a miter saw that had a laser that was worth the trouble of replacing the batteries when they died. I always had to figure out how far from the cut the laser actually was and estimate where the cut was going to be. As far as I'm concerned lasers on miter saws are gimmicks. When you can see the shadow line on this saw it is dead on. Also I don't know why your buddy is so freaking obsessed with the bevel knob being plastic. Just try being a little graceful and don't twist the hell out of it.
This is a great remodeling saw especially if you have to haul it up stairs or up a ladder. I use this saw for installing vinyl railings and even cutting 5/4 pressure treated decking. It will run just about all day with the 6 amp-hour battery. As far as it only being a single bevel c'mon guys use your imagination to work around that drawback. The biggest problem I have is with the trim blade that De Walt includes and any thin kerf trim blade really. This saw can be a little grabby if you don't hold the workpiece down tight. Once the blade binds in the wood you can figure on taking it off tossing it out and putting on a new blade. Overall this is a very good saw. PS I think the guy that said he got it at Home Depot for $100.00 either bought a different saw or he switched price tags on it. Even without the battery and charger they're not gonna let it go for a hundred bucks
Couldn't possibly have bought it for $100, full stop? You must be 'that guy' on site. Couple weeks ago up here in Canaderp I bought DeWalt's 10" jobsite table saw for $130. $99 US bucks. Care to tell me different?
As always you do great reviews thanks!
Cut flip cut pressure treated 4x4’s all day long with this saw with no power issues whatsoever!
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Hey this thing says "DO NOT CUT METALS/DO NOT USE CARBIDE TIPPED BLADES" all over the instruction manual. But I have an aluminium cutting saw blade from diablo that happens to be 7 1/4 in. Does this include cutting soft metals like brass and aluminium?
the only thing one problem I had is the plastic handle on top broke fast when people should have grabbed the handles from the side the shadow is right on yes you are correct on that the shadow line but it actually get you to look at your work and slow down if that makes sense
Took the plunge and purchased the cordless 12” DeWalt mitre saw and the price tag broke my heart and the weight of the saw isn’t great on the body if used daily but it is the best saw on the market, in my opinion of course.
Love the honesty of this video
The Kobalt is duel bevel and has the depth stops for dado cuts, the light positioning system works good
Thinking of selling my 10 inch and buying one of these. Have you guys made a video comparing this to the Milwaukee 7 1/4? Already on the dewalt platform but wouldn’t mind expanding. I’d use it for afternoon/weekend side jobs where I’m casing occasional door/windows. The smaller 7 1/4 would come in so clutch considering I work out of an SUV and I can put load it on top of my tough system when I’m at the job
Great video guys.. just ran across your channel and now subscribed
Awesome! Thank you!
It looks like you could cut a 2x4 on edge if you slide the saw forward 3/4 of an inch. it looks like there is enough cutout on the housing for 1 1/2.
I'd like to see a more feature-rich miter saw of this size as a 60V tool. I just bought a 60V 7-1/4" circular saw to replace my 20V PowerDetect 7-1/4" circular saw, and the difference in power and battery life is incredible. I feel that the 60V 12" is a downgrade compared to the 120V as that larger size benefits from the increased power, so 60V in this super-portable size plus a couple more features would be very nice.
My current small miter and my 12" have a pull out support on each end to extend the width of the cut surface and help hold work better. Of course tooo long would require separate stands but those pull outs are a great extra. I'm not concerned with the plastic star knob but I have read reviews they would rather prefer it to be two rather then three point. Dun know. Also another review was not happy on the blade change. They say there is a screw that is extremely hard to remove and they pretty much stripped the head getting it out. Maybe that screw is an easy replacement with something different???
I definitely need to replace my current saw as it has used up its time line and I like sticking with DeWalt because I have all DeWalt cordless tools and lots of variety of batteries.
I had both saws Milwaukee and Dewalt.
Dewalt is accurate, but it had a couple things that were very annoying, after a few cuts the sawdust in the bag will come down when you are making cuts, and changing blades was annoying and the bolt would wore off too easy.
Milwaukee has nice features and solved the problem of the dust collection and blade change but it's biggest flaw is that is not that accurate.
Bought the saw saw blade shadow dose show. Bet era in mine about an 1.1/2 from work piece
Maybe something is wrong with the adjustment of it
I also prefer and invested in Milwaukee but have some de Walt as well so I opted to buy it
Cause I got a good deal on it and it’s
Light and precise
All in all I like it so far.
Hi guys. I bought this and didn't realise know about the depth stop. Arh! Do you know whether the black stop screw can be removed? If so one could add in a simple threaded depth stop. I am loathed to remove the stopper, just in case it is also holding something else in that would be difficult to get back into place :)
Have you guys used the after market battery packs they sell on the wish app? Seems like some of the cells they use might be bigger. Just wondering how they perform.
D Meester love your show Vince I hope the 7 and 1/4 will cut 7 and a quarter inch Crown on a flat. A lot of contractors don't realize most crown can be cut upside down and still have the same exact cut if you cut it face up!
It's a 7 1/4 inch saw I have had mine 4 years I have not had a problem at all! That back sustainability being plastic has gave me no problems. It's a small saw with plenty of power for smaller jobs if you want to do big jobs get a big saw! I absolutely love the saw...
no depth stop adjuster killed it for me. I was about to buy this saw until you pointed this out. Thx guys
I have the DCS365 (a later model in the UK?) and easily made my own depth stop
god, so high strung... its a cool little tool IMO i agree that light feature is pretty stupid but i dont even use a laser, mark the line put blade to it, cut it. its very light i can move around a job easily un corded. its amazing. but what were you guys talking about cherry being harder than maple? i misheard that right? i do finish work and mostly use hardwoods. and im pretty sure cherry is wayyy softer than maple, but im assuming i misread what you guys were saying there.. anyways i love tools keep it up!
I own this saw. Works great !!!
I personally love dewalt but I'm waiting for a brushless Gen 2 version with dual bevel
I've been debating this saw for a few months now and I want to pull the trigger on it. (I have the Dewalt 12" slider and I want something smaller for small jobs) But I just realized this saw isn't brushless. The Milwaukee is.. Its also significantly more money and I have no Milwaukee 18v tools.. so I'd have to buy a battery and a charger. I on the other hand have a ton of 20v Dewalt batteries. Anyone have any thoughts on what I should do? I can't see Dewalt NOT updating this saw in the near future. Not having a brushless motor on a premium tool at this stage of the game just doesn't make sense to me. With my luck I'd buy this and Dewalt will roll-out a new version at Christmas time and I'll be kicking myself for buying it. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
So basically no need for a double compound on the seven and a quarter DeWalt cordless awesome saw. Yes crown stops would be nice but you can always use ingenuity. Love your show. DeWalt for life
FRICK AND FRACK... Love Ya! I have one and I love it too. I JUST WISH IT WAS BRUSHLESS, XR STYLE.
cant imagine working in bright light area but maybe add one of them lasers to the blade nut.. seems they would upgrade this machine by now.. thanks guys!
do they make a adapter to plug it in the wall too for this saw ? 🔌
Vince is right. I think they should scale down the larger saws with all the options to the seven and a fourth. Why leave features out...
Nicely done
VERY great video guys!
Would be neat to see this with the same belt driven offset the 12 inch has
If the the bevel lock broke its only one screw to replace it and I’m sure it’s glass reinforced plastic. The biggest flaws for me would be the not having duel bevel and the shadow line. That’s why I bought the best cordless 7 1/4 saw on the market the Milwaukee 👍🏼
Love that precision trim blade! 🤣
In my humble opinion if you're going to spend some 💰 you might as well buy a dual beveled mitre saw.
they should have gotton the 60v flexvolt mitre saw.
Nice Dewalt with Battery 👍👍👍👍👍👍good video Vince & Jimmy ✌✌✌✌✌✌
Thanks JR!
Hi Vince and Jimmy,
I have this same 7 1/4" miter saw for small projects. I have to agree with Vince on some issues. First, it should have a double bevel. Second, a better dust collection bag, Third the precision light should be better. Fourth, it should have a Brushless motor.
Yes, i get Jimmy point about marking materials and then double check before cutting. Still Vince is correct if people don't really care about that feature then don't put it on the tool or the box.
I have to say I still like the little miter saw for small projects but Milwaukee still has the best 7 1/4 miter saw with all the features.
Hope DeWalt can make a new version of this this miter saw and their 6 1/2 circular saw. It's time for an upgrade DEWALT....
Good feedback Michael we appreciate it!
@vcgconstruction You should make a video testing the Milwaukee 7 1/4 miter saw individually and then make a video comparing the two.
Would a 60 volt battery work on this?
The saw is what it is. We use it for shoe molding or flooring installs. More features would be great but it’s not why you’d buy this saw. It’s lite weight and cordless... perfect for punch list stuff.
My 12" Delta bevel knob made of plastic just broke after 20 years. I agree they should have made it metal.
I actually think I prefer the Kobalt Dual bevel 24v miter saw. I feel like it has more features. Id like to see the Kobalt 24v dual bevel vs the DeWalt comparison video 😎
Hey great channel. I just got the cordless milwaukee 7 1/4 and i couldnt be happier. I went back and forth bewtween the two and ended up spending the money. Well worth it
Thanks for the feedback k
The Powerstack Batteries dont fit on mine... whyyyy?
Shoot out of the 7 1/4 saws...Metabo HPT vs Dewalt vs Milwaukee!
The only reason I'd need a cordless miter, is for its weight. Tired of lugging around my 12" saw. Weighs like 55 pounds
Been using mine for years. Mine sounds different though. Weird.
I love DEWALT 7-1/4, us it for everything but building decks.
The Ridgid is a dual bevel, has a depth gauge, has a WAY better "positioning system" with different colored lights on each side of blade to make it more clear, it also has an angled motor, and a much faster brake. It also has a chart on the front that tells you what angles to set for flat crown cutting. Every complaint you have about this saw, the Ridgid has. I work with a guy who has the dewalt and its just not as nice as I would expect from them.
It makes perfect sense why they don't have the double bevel, next year they will come out with that model! 100 Flex volt.....
With a blade for cutting metal,
will this machine cut through Aluminum 6061 flat/square/round bar down into small cubes and cylinders?
I need something to cut Aluminum / Copper (soft metal) stock - and I'm wondering this will work for that.
I need to know as I am considering purchasing it as it fits my budget.
Thank you.
@@keithsmall100
Why?
@@keithsmall100
DeWalt makes a metal cutting saw for cutting non-ferrous (soft) metals with their 7.25" miter saws. I don't plan to use a saw meant for wood.
I'll be cutting aluminum not titanium.
@@keithsmall100
That's not the DeWalt blade I was talking about. There is a specific 7.25 blade for non-ferrous soft metals. I.e Aluminum, Copper
And it says so on the blade itself.
I'd rather the plastic handle break than strip out the bevel lock screw if there too fell. Cheaper for them, cheaper for me. No depth stop or bevel quick set on a trim oriented saw is 100% a deal breaker, what were they thinking?? I'd use this all day for recessed stud brace knockout dados, but nope. Edit: all of 20sec after pausing to post, Vince echos my thoughts on the handle 👍
What do you think Milwaukee 7 1/4 or DeWalt
Would I prefer the Milwaukee double bevel? Yes. Is it worth an extra $200? At that point I’d get the 10” Milwaukee or Makita 🤪
Is it brushless ?
Okay, overall...is this a good saw for a beginner?
I’ve tried it out used for a month and very disappointing had to return it cause it’s only battery operated they made the 12in corded and cordless WHY NOT THROWING IN A F... ADAPTER for this one too.
Ive had this saw for few years and I can tell you that somthing sounds wrong with that saw my motor sounds totally different
I have a couple of these and your right, it sounds fucked.
I have this saw, and from experience DON’T try to use this for dado cuts🥵 Let’s just say the guard works amazing and It kept me from loosing my fingers and my teeth!🤦🏻♂️
They should make a flexvolt version with dual bevel. They already have a nice 10 inch cordless but the weight is a bit much. It’s still much lighter than the 12 inch but this saw just seemed too toy like for me. Probably is a great saw but it lacked the power and features that other saws of the same size have
you should go to Harbor Freight buy their cheapest tools and do reviews on them
*I just got the Willmaukyee 7-1/4" slider.*
- Brushless. +1 for Willmaukyee.
- Dual bevel. +2
- Angled motor housing. +3
- Shadow line is great. +0
- No depth stop either. +0. Huh wahhh... why wouldn't THEY BOTH have that?
*But check something for me on that DeFault...*
- The Willmaukyee has only THREE linear bearings. How about the DeFault?
I noticed this when I tightened the slide lock and _FELT the saw head lever up!_ There is only one front bearing on that side... so when you tighten the lock, the front bearing is a fulcrum. BAD design choice.
Hey did you check the bearings on this slider?
Vince doesn’t like it 😂
I didn't either. I bought this saw and returned it within 5 days. I replaced it with a Ridgid 7.25 saw. The ridgid has a electronic brake, a depth adjustment, and it swings both ways. It was a dream compared to the dewalt. I still have it today 3 years later and haven't looked back. Too bad the ridgid was discontinued. Today, I'd look at the Kobalt for similar features. _jb
I love mine I have run the 9amp flex volt battery on it and it fits. One down side to cutting 3-1/4 base is you spin it to the left and it will cut so far through it. So you have to lay it down. After a little practice and remembering it works well. Great saw in my opinion!!
Great video guys keep it up
FYI, Another video show turning on the light manually.
I would rather either buy the semi Wormdrive DeWALT circular saw or a circular saw, bringing it to job site than bringing or buying the mitre saw that lack of so many functions, that SHOULD BE added in but it’s not.
A circular saw of any type doesn't replace a cop saw of any type. The best circ saw won't replace the worst miter saw.
You should compare this to the Milwaukee.
This might just be me, but it sounds like you have your left and right audio channels flipped for the video.
This was a tough one because Vince and Jimmy were switching sides
Love your painful honesty.... I am hitting subscribe
does that kobalt 7 1/4 miter saw have the features this one does not have ?
Yes
@@VCGConstruction its a $10 difference between the 2...if you need the extra features get the kobalt