This is the video that saved me a ton of frustration. After initially watching another video that assigns the standard com port to CAT control, I immediately got the “rig control error” when i clicked the test button. More searching got me to this tutorial, and I was instantly successful once I assigned the enhanced com port to CAT. Thank you! There is a part of me that wonders how so many people had success setting this set up successfully with the standard com port assigned to CAT control on the 891.
Quirky radio but you nailed it again! I was using FL Rig but the performance was uneven on PTT. These settings absolutely work for this radio. Thanks 73 KK2L
Old video but still helpful - Julian the Great! I had no TX audio on my 891 when testing JS8Call. I found this old video and learned that my data out level was set to just "10". Changed it to "50" and it worked. Everything else was set properly and I was going crazy here for moment. Setting my Data out level higher fixed the problem. I back on 10 meters this week and want to see how propagation is behaving.
So one of the reasons to watch the video a few times and make notes and save it for future reference........you won't take two month to figure out why you can't get your same rig to work. In my case, I was missing a cable. A Critical cable!!!!! The CAT CABLE. A big TY to Julian.
Love your instruction set/information videos! And THANK YOU for this posting!!! Ran into a stumbling block and your "width" pointer fixed it. Thanks Julian, you rock!
Thank you Julian. This video was very helpful in successfully setting up my 891 with a Signalink for FT8. In first few attempts I was able to have QSOs with stations from 15 miles from from my location to over 7,400 miles to New Zealand, with only 20 watts. This was from just north of Austin, Texas. Antenna is EFHW in inverted L configuration. First time ever utilizing digital mode on FT891. Appreciate all your videos. Keep them coming. Am subscribed. Best to you.
Thanks Julian, this got me started with my first digital mode on my Elecraft K2, MacBook and mag loop. Looking forward to JS8call, and seeing if K2 will do it.
Best FT-8 Video I've seen. Gives clear and complete instructions for setting up the radio and the software. I'm looking at this radio for purchase and this video was certainly a help in making a decision. Good work! de NB3P
Awesome comment and very much appreciated. I still enjoyed the 891 specially for digital modes. So far it's got the best receiver of any radio I've ever had. 👍
Hi Julian! I just got the FT-891 (partly thanks to your reviews of it!). Interestingly, things didn't quite seem to work right until I set the OTHER DISP to 1500, along with the OTHER SHIFT set to 1500. I was then able to see a nice, solid 3k passband for FT8 work. That, of course, after I saw the part of your video where you adjust the filter width. Hehe. Anyway, an interesting note. I'm doing more research on what all of these options mean (what the heck is DAKY?!), but thanks for helping get me started. 73, Rex KE6MT
From the 'FT-891 Advanced Manual': 06-07 AM PTT SELECT ------------------- Function: Sets the PTT control for the AM transmit signal. Available Values: DAKY/RTS/DTR Default: DAKY Description: Selects the PTT control method for the AM transmit. DAKY: Controls the AM transmit signal from the RTTY/DATA jack (pin 3) on the rear panel. DTR: Controls the AM transmit signal from the USB virtual COM/DTR ports. RTS: Controls the AM transmit signal from the USB virtual COM/RTS ports.
@@OH8STN Rex asked what 'DAKY' means. I pasted the text from the advanced manual which explains what it does. I think DAKY is an abbreviation of 'DATA KEYING', i.e. 'Push-to-talk keying via the data jack'. I think that when you set the 'AM PTT SELECT' to 'DAKY', you enable the option to be able to switch the 891 to transmit via the DATA jack.
Thank you - this helped me get HRD working properly with my FTDX3000. My settings are a little different, but your video gave me the knowledge I needed to fix my problem. Many thanks, 73, and hope to see you on the air! :-)
Hi Julian - At 5:45 you mention a cable that plugs into the DATA/RTTY port, then plugs into a USB port in the computer. However, I have the cable that plugs into the DATA/RTTY port on the rig, but ends in open wires. I had assumed that it would be going to the sound card. I guess that I could splice in a USB plug, If I knew which wires went where into the USB.
Thanks for the informative video. I see You’re using the G90 now. Do you still suggest the 891 as a mobile rig. It will 99% in my car but will mount in a way that I can remove it quickly if needing to abandon my car. Also mostly use the radio HF / JS8 (in areas where I can’t reach voice propagation ) going off-road / ovelanding 3-6 days long in areas where there’s no service whatsoever. So, primarily be used as a backup radio to call help and play w it to find out how reliable it is in areas w no cell service.. I have in-reach satellite as primary. Thanks for putting this together and I appreciate your time. Mike
Definitely still using my ft-891. It's a magnificent radio with an excellent receiver. The only thing it's missing is an internal sound card but everything else is so awesome about the radio, I think it's still might go to Radio for preparedness. It's only slightly larger than the FT818, but you get 100 Watts, dsp, and variable bandwidth filters. You can't go wrong for the price.
Great video! I was under the impression that an external audio interface was not needed using virtual drivers but it seems evident from the video that one is needed. The video is very straight-forward and easy to understand.
Great video, and thanks so much. Been struggling with FT8 setup. Question though, why do i need to set the shift for 1000hz? Everything else made sense but that. Cheers and Thx 73!
Thank's I scratched my head all week end trying to get this to work.Had the FT817 working then got the 891 and ran in to problems.Next thing is getting PI configured to work with it.
Good stuff as always. Help me understand the shift of 1000Hz. I've not seen / read that anywhere else when looking at WSJT-X settings. I leave mine at zero and am able to decode everything fine. What am I missing?
There's a couple of different reasons you'd want to use the shift. Usually I use the shift and the bandwidth adjustment together. So for example you're getting qrm for man rtty contester. His signal is too wide to notch, so you could reduce your bandwidth to something like 1,000 hurts instead of the normal 3000 Hertz then use the shift to move your bandpass away from the qrm. Does that make sense?
These days I leave the shift at 0, but have the offset at 1500hz. This is assuming I'm displaying the entire 3000 Hertz band pass. If I want to filter out or focus on a specific signal I would narrow the bandpass, and use the shift to adjust to the center of the signal I want.
Thanks for the question and kindness. I don't remember if the 891 had its own USB cable, I think it did. I ordered some shorter cables from ebay anyway. I like to keep the cables as short as possible.
Hi, Julian. I used your parameters to get my FT-891 to talk to FLRIG and FLDIGI on my Maacbook Pro runniing Parallels (Windows). Good instructions! In order to get FLRIG to work, I installed the latest version, 1.3.42.03. I have not yet gotten to configuring wsjt-x or js8call. Still on to do list.
Very good video. Wished you had shown more about your data interface box and cables as I'm looking for a replacement for old RASCAL. I may buy a FT 891 based on this :) W1WAB
Hi. After installing the drivers everything works great using data over cat. No need for “data box” and many cables. cat and audio all over the usb, works great.
@@CaptainK007 Hey what you are saying is quite interesting, what program are you using ? Do you have any documentation/video on this ? I'd like to know more.
Hello Julian, I wonder whether you've experienced a 'clicking' sound in the audio chain when going digital. The clicking was mentioned several times on a forum 5-6 years ago. The clicking appears to be in perfect pace with the baud rate set for CAT control. Have you experienced it? Regards Gust ON6KE
This series of the radio doesn't have that clicking. It seems to have been a feature of the early versions. Mine had clean clear audio both incoming and outgoing. 73 Julian oh8stn
You are very welcome. As always I wish I could do more. There's a new video dropping today by the way. I'm just writing about it in the other place. 73 Julian oh8stn
As always, many thanks for all you do clearing up these mysteries. Question... does the FT-891 have a way of "storing" multiple configurations? I'm just thinking of my IC-7300 and how slick it is to go back/forth between settings for SSB vs settings for digital modes. Does such a function exist for the FT-891 or do all of these settings have to be 'un-tweaked' if you want to switch over to SSB?
Settings on the ft-891 are brutally inadequate. There is an upside however. If your rig is in digital mode, the 891 will use the relevant digital mode settings, like audio input, bandwidth, Center frequency, and so on. When you switch over to SSB mode, it will switch those things automatically for settings more related to The Wider bandwidth of voice Communications. I really wish there were profiles for setting up the radio the way we like. The only way to do it on the ft-891 is setting up specific memories with the settings you like. Do that one for each band, then recall the setting to have your radio set up the way you like it. It's not the best way, but that's the way I've found Works nicely. The 7300 user interface is light years ahead of the 891.
@@OH8STN Thanks for the quick reply, Julian! I'm "shopping" (aka dreaming and $aving) for a 100w "portable" hf rig. The FT-891 is obviously a contender. Believe it or not, I'm also looking at the IC-7100. *Not sure the form factor is ideal with its permo-2-piece layout. On the other hand, it has built in sound card, and can serve as a base vhf/uhf rig when not in the field. As you've already noted, pity the FT-891 doesn't have built-in sound card, but...we play the cards we're dealt.
Julian, I have found an alternate method to having to move the SFT key to max. Instead, go to OTHER DISP 1500, OTHER SHIFT 1500, DATA LCUT FREQ OFF, DATA HCUT OFF, DATA PTT DAKY, go to main screen and adjust WDH to Max 3000, don't touch SFT! This will give you max receive on the center freq. I have these settings and they seem to work fine.
Thanks for this. Actually this is how I'm doing it these days. Your way is a much nicer way, and the shift still works as intended. I should make an update video on that.
HI. Would be great to cover small differences when setting up in Linux: No need to load drivers, they are there ready for use. Another thing is that user needs to belong to Dialout group to get USB connection. So not difficult as I got it to work :-)
I just have the data mode to others en then adjust the wdh from 500Hz to as wide as possible. I would advice not to use the shift. When selecting the frequency in ssb mode then switching to data the frequency changes just but it back i.e. to 7.078MHz in data. I love the yaesu scu-17 interface because it only needs 5V from the usb to operate. I t has the same driver as the cat from the ft-891 uses and even works on linux.
Julian, I need to ask for your help if you have a moment. I have put the Sabrent sound card, the HIQUAY FTDI FT232 chipset 8 Pin Mini Din Male Serial to USB Adapter, CT-62 CAT Cable for Yaesu Radio, and the HQPARRTS 6pin Data Audio Cable for Digital Modes FT - FT8/FT4/JT65/PSK Audio Interface 6-Pin Mini DIN Cable DC-11F for YAESU FT-897, FT-857, FT-891 into my Amazon shopping cart. The sound card and the 6pin Data Audio Cable are for FT8? Is the other cable the CAT cable? I, also have the ADMS-891 USB-A to USB-B cable with the programming software. Are there enough ports on the radio? I'm already confused. Can you please help me? Thank you. David
Don't waste your money on all that stuff. Buy a Digirig. The 891 uses a USB cable for cat control. For data use the Digirig. You'll have two usb cables, without any complicated mess. Normally we'll use the digirig for audio and cat. Since the 891 Has its own usb port for cat control, We only use half of the digirig, along with the 891 usb port for cat. It sounds complicated but it's a very simple way to do it.
Hi Julian, Have you heard of and/or experienced the "CAT clicking" problem that's been reported with the FT-891? I'm thinking about buying a used one but I can't find out if that problem was a settings fix or a hardware problem that I'd need a warranty to repair. I'm really interested in running this with digital modes and if it has "issues" in some models I'd pay an extra $100 for the full 3 year warranty. If you've experienced that problem and overcome it with a radio setting could you please respond to this comment? Thanks and I really like your ham radio videos.
You know I'm just sitting here working on an ft-891 video. That clicking was in the first generation of the ft-891. In the more recent versions, there isn't that problem. It seems that Yaesu has quietly fixed it, without letting anyone know there was an initial problem. So 90% of the communications I do with the 891 are digital Communications. Winlink, js8, ... there's a website or possibly a group on Facebook that identified which of the 891 series, had the problem by its serial number. I'll need to find it, but I will include that in my video.
Hello Julian, you may have missed my reply to your comment below, so wondered if you can help please ? I attached a Ferrite Bead to the end of the USB cable (the PC end) and it seems to have worked, the TX continues for as long as needed now and does not cut out (I guess the source of the RFI is still there but at least I have a workround. One other issue I am having with this setup, when I transmit on frequencies between 600Hz and around 1600Hz, full power (set to 25W) is achieved. When replying to CQ call on frequencies from around 1800Hz and up, my power drops to around 1-2 watts. Can you suggest what settings need to be changed or suggest what the problem may be ? My "Other Shift" setting on the radio is set to 1000Hz and "Width" setting to 800HZ. Thanks
You're absolutely right Martin. I didn't get the notification to the reply. Hate this sounds like exactly the same problem. I would suggest adding more ferrite beads if possible. The perfect solution would be using the shortest cables possible, in addition to ferrite beads. You can also root your coaxial cable away from any of audio or CAT co trol cables.
I finally got back to my radio this weekend and was able to run through this. Worked flawlessly. Thank you so much for doing that. Thinking the RTS setting was the problem child for me like it was for you. For what it's worth, for the "other shift" setting I got some advice elsewhere to set that to 1500Hz, given where WSJT-X puts the center point for decoding relative to the tuned frequency. When I set the width to 3000Hz (the max width) I get a big dump of decodes so it seems to make sense that those two complement each other for the broadest range. All that said, I'm still relatively new to all of this so I may be totally making that up. :-D Thank you again!
Glad I could help. That advice actually sounds logical and sounds good. I have it also set up that way now. But I figured it out after the video Thanks for watching and coming back with some feedback. It's very much appreciated 73 Julian oh8stn
Hi, just got mine set up and working. You have split set to none but I thought it had to be set to rig. I have been running my FT 817 with split set to rig and have been making contacts, but now I wonder if I am doing something wrong. Thanks Neil 2E0CMN
Great video, as I see the data mode is D-U 8 than you simple change shift 1000 hz width 500hz.A question Julian,can I put the Data Mode on USB mode? Dinos..73..
For some reason, my PC does not show a USB audio codec. I have installed the Yaesu driver for the FT-891. I don't have my signalink yet, so is this codec something that its software will include?
The codec is the audio interface. The ft-891 doesn't have one internally. When you build or buy the audio interface, you'll see the audio codec once you plug it in.
AWESOME VIDEO as always!!! just wondering what you are using for the interface and will this information be applicable to every/most interfaces or just the specific one you are using in this video? thanks a bunch ! 73's KB1ICK
I'm using the ZLP miniprosc, but this tutorial will work for the most part with signalink or similar interfaces as well. Thanks for the kindness, question and for watching. You're very welcome.
@@OH8STN Hi Julian quick question: I've the 891 and the MiniProSC. Having issues in D - U mode. Like I've not enough drive from laptop. Sometimes it works then stops. In USB mode works 100%. Any ideas ? 73 Paul
@@OH8STN One other question if I may. I got it to work for a several QSOs but then no RF Power. Checking the ALC shows very little audio. Increasing the drive level doesn't help - have you seen this before ? Could it be my ProSC ?
Hi, Not sure if you are looking at the comments.? When you show the screen of the FT-891 it is showing "D - U" When did this appear..??, originally is showed LSB, did this get switched by WSJTX..?? Thanks..
Hello, I have configured my 891 according to your instructions and everything is working, just one question. I set the sound level so that the ALC would be minimal, but when changing the frequencie(selecting other user), the ALC also changes. Is it normal or I missed something?
You may have to adjust ALC when you change your band. There's so many variables it's kind of hard to say. But needing to adjust is perfectly normal. 73 Julian oh8stn
@@OH8STN thank you, but this frequency change is very small, say +100Hz and not on the radio, but on the WSJT-X program, but the ALC changes quite significantly. It is very interesting why this is so.
Hello, excelent video your settings function very well with HRD CAT control software, but only with WSJT-X the CAT control do not function, why? Regards, Pablo HC1PE
Question. I have been running about 50 watts on ft8 and after about 15 min, the radio goes to zero or 10 watts when xmit. Why? Is 50 too much for the 891 in digital? Or is it something else? Just making sure I'm not doing something wrong. Then after about an hour goes to 50 again after not transmitting. Thoughts? Thx. 73 K9WAS
This is a huge red flag Andrew. There's a variety of things which could cause this. Your SWR is too high, you're over driving the radio (checked with ALC meter while txing). It could be poor coax cable, bad station grounding, or poor ventilation (put 891 fan on contest setting). It could also be a combination of these things. What we are sure about is the ft-891 is folding back its output power, because something is wrong. It's protecting itself from damaged by reducing the output power. This is by design.
I tried all this but my FT-891 is not transmitting anything in Data Mode. PTT is triggered (orange LED) but power output is 0. If I use SSB everything works fine. I would like to use data mode not switching mic port and BFO all the time but how?
@@donnymazon8516 there are two options. PSKMail and WinLink. PSKMail has its own client for every OS, WinLink is Winfows only, but there is an independent Raspberry Pi deployment
This is a special radio and works a little bit differently than others. I would buy the Digirig interface for FT891, FT857, FT818. Because this radio already has its own USB connection. You only need the audio connection from thee Digirig. This means for data modes. You'll have two cables one from the radio and one from the audio interface. www.digirig.net Hope this helps
Thank you. Understand that you have done a video on how to use an inexpensive sound card and Yaesu cables to replace the more expensive sound cards? 4S7EF
It's not worth it. You'll get the best results and least frustration with thee Digirig. The problem with doing it the cheap way with the yasu cables is overdriving the radio and polluting the spectrum for all the other operators who can hear you. It's much easier to set up with a digirig.
I have gone through your video a couple of times, and I am not sure where the DIGIRIG cables are connected. Will it be possible to kindly do schematic of how ALL cables are connected PLEASE?😊 4S7EF
I have the same setup. But in audio settings, both show the codecs, but both say (not found). Do you have any idea what the problem might be? Thanks, CA4JDM / CE4JDM
@@OH8STN Thanks. I tried both things, but still does not work. The computer uses Windows 11 (I hate it!) I set it up in an older computer with Windows 10 and it works perfect!
Hi 👋Julian! Quick question. Do you have to run an external sound card for FT8 with the 891 or just the USB 1 to USB2 from radio to computer. I’m gonna give digital a try and have been learning from your videos.
+Shortwave Listener that little box is the audio interface. It allows you to run software on a laptop tablet or Raspberry Pi, for digital Communications like psk, Olivia, ft8, or rtty. So it's job is to take the sound from the apps running on your computer, and turn those into something the radio can work with sending out over the air. It's only required if your running digital modes
You do the same thing by making your own cable. There is another company who makes audio interface is called signalink. And unfortunately the price is always what it is in amateur radio. The trick is to build as much of it yourself as you can
Kiitos! Everything worked as shown but the FT-891 will not select the rear panel for data input and instead selects the mic, even though "Rear" has been selected. Any hints on this?
This got me too...even factory reset..then thought about it... it depends on the mode your on...if its SSB then you need to change the 11-05 menu.... change the mic select to rear for what ever mode your using! 73's
@@ah2ejshane600 This is one of my problem i noticed it was using mic because if i talked it would move power out.. this was on SSB, but now when i ptt using wsjtx it moves radio into data u mode every time instead of just leaving it in ssb.
I would say that Linux takes care of that. After plugging into a Linux computer use the command "dmesg | tail" and it will show the last things that happened, if you issued this command right after plugging the USB cable in it will tell you what tty devices were created
Select filter from the front panel button, then adjust the bandwidth to 2300hz. Winlink Express will automatically put it to 3000 Hertz forcing you to change it every time.
My problem is I am not computer savvy. A person keeps asking me. Did I put this in and I put that in did I do this? Did I do that. I just don’t know who to talk to about getting this properly set up on the computer.
First thing to do is define the task, breaking down each part of the setup into individual steps. Itemize the steps onto a piece of paper stro 1, step 2, step 3, ... Under each step write the goal, pre-requisites, required materials and expected results. This is basically your project plan. There are no tutorials which will be exactly identical to your setup. This is especially true when you're commenting or watching older videos with hardware which is unavailable anymore.
I've been having the same argument with my buddies. I would say yes smaller bandwidth would be more efficient. Anyway the answer to your question is no it is not required. In fact sometimes I limit the bandwidth to just 500 Hertz, when I want to reduce the noise or interference from powerful stations
Great question. I usually run with agc off when running data modes. The best advice I can give you is not to be afraid to test and find the best setup for you. AGC is definitely off but I think settings can be applied dynamically based on the situation. Does that make sense?
Hello Julian, this is an excellent video which I followed to the letter and managed to set up my FT-891 with WSJT-X connected to my Laptop using a SignaLink interface. I have a problem though which I'm hoping you can help me with. After about 5-10 transmissions, the CAT control seems to get lost and the radio does not transmit any power. If I unplug the USB plug from the Laptop (the one connected to the radio) then re-connect it, the CAT control is re-established. The number of transmissions varies before this happens. I have tried altering the Power (15 watts and 30 watts) and it happens on both. Do you have any thoughts on what could be causing this ? It's rather annoying, especially if I am in the middle of a QSO ! Thanks. Martin
Sounds like RFI. Try a shorter USB cable. In fact try to reduce the length of all of your cables, as much as possible. This is just fixing the symptoms though. Trying to figure out if you're getting current in your coax, from your antenna. Thanks for the question and the comment, it's very much appreciated
@@OH8STN Thanks Julian, I attached a Ferrite Bead to the end of the USB cable (the PC end) and it seems to have worked, the TX continues for as long as needed now and does not cut out (I guess the source of the RFI is still there but at least I have a workround. One other issue I am having with this setup, when I transmit on frequencies between 600Hz and around 1600Hz, full power (set to 25W) is achieved. When replying to CQ call on frequencies from around 1800Hz and up, my power drops to around 1-2 watts. Can you suggest what settings need to be changed or suggest what the problem may be ? My "Other Shift" setting on the radio is set to 1000Hz and "Width" setting to 800HZ. Thanks
First, thank you for the tutorial. My question.>I'm brand new...imagine a person who has never even heard the term 'Ham' and wants to connect an FT 891 to his computer. He doesn't know what cables to buy, what adapters, terminals..any of that. What would you say?
Jesse Knapp the question is too abstract Jesse. The operator has to know what he or she wants to achieve, then move forward from there. Unlike lots of other Hobbies, this one requires a fair amount of background research. From this perspective clubs, events, partnering with friends or family who are already licensed, is usually the best way to get started.
i tried all these setting set up the rig and software like he said and could not get to work i have been trying over a month, uninstall the software and drivers and reset the radio reset all back up has a complete failure still would not work
N4AOX new operator having trouble with 891 running DigiPan --CCW. I have rigged a CAT (Silicon Labs UART Advance RS232 Port) on my Win 7 Laptop USB/Com #6, but still cannot get the PTT signal to go to transmit thru the CAT port (mini-USB on the 891). I have the Data In and Data Out 6 pin DIN plug coming from computer laptop with the mic-in and mic-out 1/8 plugs. The rig works fine with PSK31 on the DIGITAL MODEM from China, with its own onboard sound card thru the 891 using the 6 pin DIN plug on the 891 to 6pin DIN on the DIGITAL MODEM. The rig runs DigiPan on the LAPTOP in receive AOK, but NO TRANSMIT. I can hold down the Mic. PTT and it does seem to send, but cannot get the PTT signal from the LAPTOP through the Cat Cord to work, even though DigiPan recognizes Com#5 PTT-RST-on. I want it to work PSK-31 like is described on Page 64 of the 891 advanced manual using a laptop. I have gone thru the 891 memory menu settings several times. Is the lower diagram P.64 in the 891 advance manual NOT CORRECT?
I would bet anything the problem is either (1) the Silicon Labs uart Advanced rs-232 Port. (2) The Yaesu USB drivers were not installed or not configured correctly. (3) The wrong USB port was chosen. The manual is 100% correct.
@@OH8STN I can make it work by holding down PTT button on Mike but that is not convenient. I can do like they did in the old days and build a little circuit to VOX the data-in and dump a killer voltage on the 891 PTT line internally but hate to start carving on a 1 mo old radio.
@@ccwynn6657 I think the problem is somewhere between the radio and the chair. 😉 I gave you 3 troubleshooting points to consider, test those. You could also simply enable Vox on the data port. If you're unsuccessful, you could also contact Yaesu support. I'm sure they can walk through your configuration with you.
From my experience I’ve come to Cw freq display FREQ Data mode OTHERS Other disp 1500 Other shift 1500 Data lcut freq OFF Data hcut freq OFF And from main screen set WDH to maximum 3000, don't touch SFT. Doing so we have maximum width filter starting at our dial frequency (=tuned freq) centered at dial freq+1500. I didn’t find any detailed explanation of those Shift and Disp did it mostly experimentally. But they look like: Filter center=tuned freq+Shift and Dial freq=Filter center - Disp Sure everything Inside 891 is much more complex since it's triple conversion radio + DSP. My explanation above is as if we are dealing with classic single conversion SSB receiver. 73 Andrey RA0UFF
Thanks Andre. I've arrived at very similar settings now. The bandwidth and the shift functions in the front panel of the radio work together. You can narrow the bandwidth with the bandwidth setting on the front panel and then moved the shift for the signal you want to focus on. This will bring a signal that is almost inaudible, up to Reliable and perfectly readable level. Thanks for sharing these settings I always look forward to your comments. 73 Julian oh8stn
That poses a small problem for me since i have interest in Olivia and JS8Call [all in USB] and checking into the Texas traffic net on LSB all on 40 meters.@@OH8STN
Hi, sorry. I read all the comments and understood. I meant how to work the whole 3000 hz. Now I know. The only thing is the power, that gos no more than 40. I use it in USB mode (none option in jtdx) and works great. Thanx 73 - CX9CPE, Pablo
Depends. With FT8 when chasing stations, sure I agree. When you're having trouble copying a station, reducing the filter to more narrow, increases rx sensitivity, provided the width and shift are used together to get your filters "around" the sig you want to hear.
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I may be new to ham radio but FT8 seems pretty useless. You don't convey any information. Win link shows promise but digital modes that simply prove that radios can make contact while watching bars fill on a screen. It's like watching paint dry.
I'm not a big fan of FT8, but many other operators are. Therefore I make videos and tutorials to help get those interested, started. It's also a good mood to test whether or not our antenna systems, are performing as expected.
Outstanding video, watched the video, took notes, and was up and running on FT8 in less than 15 minutes. Appreciate all that you do.
This is the video that saved me a ton of frustration. After initially watching another video that assigns the standard com port to CAT control, I immediately got the “rig control error” when i clicked the test button. More searching got me to this tutorial, and I was instantly successful once I assigned the enhanced com port to CAT. Thank you!
There is a part of me that wonders how so many people had success setting this set up successfully with the standard com port assigned to CAT control on the 891.
Quirky radio but you nailed it again! I was using FL Rig but the performance was uneven on PTT. These settings absolutely work for this radio. Thanks 73 KK2L
Old video but still helpful - Julian the Great! I had no TX audio on my 891 when testing JS8Call. I found this old video and learned that my data out level was set to just "10". Changed it to "50" and it worked. Everything else was set properly and I was going crazy here for moment. Setting my Data out level higher fixed the problem. I back on 10 meters this week and want to see how propagation is behaving.
So one of the reasons to watch the video a few times and make notes and save it for future reference........you won't take two month to figure out why you can't get your same rig to work. In my case, I was missing a cable. A Critical cable!!!!! The CAT CABLE. A big TY to Julian.
Love your instruction set/information videos! And THANK YOU for this posting!!! Ran into a stumbling block and your "width" pointer fixed it.
Thanks Julian, you rock!
Thank you Julian. This video was very helpful in successfully setting up my 891 with a Signalink for FT8. In first few attempts I was able to have QSOs with stations from 15 miles from from my location to over 7,400 miles to New Zealand, with only 20 watts. This was from just north of Austin, Texas. Antenna is EFHW in inverted L configuration. First time ever utilizing digital mode on FT891. Appreciate all your videos. Keep them coming. Am subscribed. Best to you.
Brilliant video, thank you, getting ready to purchase an 891 and your channel will be a huge help
Thanks Julian, this got me started with my first digital mode on my Elecraft K2, MacBook and mag loop. Looking forward to JS8call, and seeing if K2 will do it.
Best FT-8 Video I've seen. Gives clear and complete instructions for setting up the radio and the software. I'm looking at this radio for purchase and this video was certainly a help in making a decision. Good work!
de NB3P
Awesome comment and very much appreciated. I still enjoyed the 891 specially for digital modes. So far it's got the best receiver of any radio I've ever had. 👍
Great video, Julian, thanks! This is all extremely helpful.
And thank you for commenting. These comments really do a lot to fuel the fire
Hi Julian! I just got the FT-891 (partly thanks to your reviews of it!). Interestingly, things didn't quite seem to work right until I set the OTHER DISP to 1500, along with the OTHER SHIFT set to 1500. I was then able to see a nice, solid 3k passband for FT8 work. That, of course, after I saw the part of your video where you adjust the filter width. Hehe. Anyway, an interesting note. I'm doing more research on what all of these options mean (what the heck is DAKY?!), but thanks for helping get me started. 73, Rex KE6MT
From the 'FT-891 Advanced Manual':
06-07 AM PTT SELECT
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Function: Sets the PTT control for the AM transmit signal. Available Values: DAKY/RTS/DTR
Default: DAKY
Description: Selects the PTT control method for the AM transmit.
DAKY: Controls the AM transmit signal from the RTTY/DATA jack (pin 3) on the rear panel.
DTR: Controls the AM transmit signal from the USB virtual COM/DTR ports.
RTS: Controls the AM transmit signal from the USB virtual COM/RTS ports.
Paula, some context please.
@@OH8STN Rex asked what 'DAKY' means. I pasted the text from the advanced manual which explains what it does. I think DAKY is an abbreviation of 'DATA KEYING', i.e. 'Push-to-talk keying via the data jack'. I think that when you set the 'AM PTT SELECT' to 'DAKY', you enable the option to be able to switch the 891 to transmit via the DATA jack.
Thank you - this helped me get HRD working properly with my FTDX3000. My settings are a little different, but your video gave me the knowledge I needed to fix my problem. Many thanks, 73, and hope to see you on the air! :-)
Hi Julian - At 5:45 you mention a cable that plugs into the DATA/RTTY port, then plugs into a USB port in the computer. However, I have the cable that plugs into the DATA/RTTY port on the rig, but ends in open wires. I had assumed that it would be going to the sound card. I guess that I could splice in a USB plug, If I knew which wires went where into the USB.
Thanks for the informative video. I see You’re using the G90 now. Do you still suggest the 891 as a mobile rig. It will 99% in my car but will mount in a way that I can remove it quickly if needing to abandon my car. Also mostly use the radio HF / JS8 (in areas where I can’t reach voice propagation ) going off-road / ovelanding 3-6 days long in areas where there’s no service whatsoever. So, primarily be used as a backup radio to call help and play w it to find out how reliable it is in areas w no cell service.. I have in-reach satellite as primary.
Thanks for putting this together and I appreciate your time. Mike
Definitely still using my ft-891. It's a magnificent radio with an excellent receiver. The only thing it's missing is an internal sound card but everything else is so awesome about the radio, I think it's still might go to Radio for preparedness. It's only slightly larger than the FT818, but you get 100 Watts, dsp, and variable bandwidth filters. You can't go wrong for the price.
Great video! I was under the impression that an external audio interface was not needed using virtual drivers but it seems evident from the video that one is needed. The video is very straight-forward and easy to understand.
Thank for sharing your knowledge to help push the ham radio community forward. This is an excellent video. 73 Bret/AC0AE
Another outstanding video! This video is extremely helpful!
Thanks. There isn't enough materisl out about this rig so everything helps.
Great video, and thanks so much. Been struggling with FT8 setup. Question though, why do i need to set the shift for 1000hz? Everything else made sense but that. Cheers and Thx 73!
Perhaps that shift is not necessary. It was a legacy setting from the old Yaesu user manual for operating psk and rtty.
There is so little information out there on this particular configuration this is great. Thanks
Thank's I scratched my head all week end trying to get this to work.Had the FT817 working then got the 891 and ran in to problems.Next thing is getting PI configured to work with it.
Great stuff. It is frustrating that Yaesu does not better document the digital settings. Seems no one know what "other " is really for! W1ip
Good stuff as always.
Help me understand the shift of 1000Hz. I've not seen / read that anywhere else when looking at WSJT-X settings. I leave mine at zero and am able to decode everything fine. What am I missing?
There's a couple of different reasons you'd want to use the shift. Usually I use the shift and the bandwidth adjustment together. So for example you're getting qrm for man rtty contester. His signal is too wide to notch, so you could reduce your bandwidth to something like 1,000 hurts instead of the normal 3000 Hertz then use the shift to move your bandpass away from the qrm. Does that make sense?
These days I leave the shift at 0, but have the offset at 1500hz. This is assuming I'm displaying the entire 3000 Hertz band pass. If I want to filter out or focus on a specific signal I would narrow the bandpass, and use the shift to adjust to the center of the signal I want.
OH8STN Ham Radio @aw
Where did you get the additional usbB to usbA CAT control cable. It does not come standard with the FT-891? Thanks,great video!
Thanks for the question and kindness. I don't remember if the 891 had its own USB cable, I think it did. I ordered some shorter cables from ebay anyway. I like to keep the cables as short as possible.
Hi, Julian. I used your parameters to get my FT-891 to talk to FLRIG and FLDIGI on my Maacbook Pro runniing Parallels (Windows). Good instructions! In order to get FLRIG to work, I installed the latest version, 1.3.42.03. I have not yet gotten to configuring wsjt-x or js8call. Still on to do list.
Very good video. Wished you had shown more about your data interface box and cables as I'm looking for a replacement for old RASCAL. I may buy a FT 891 based on this :) W1WAB
Hi. After installing the drivers everything works great using data over cat. No need for “data box” and many cables. cat and audio all over the usb, works great.
There is no audio transit over USB on the FT-891. Perhaps you're experiencing audio coupling through your computers microphone.
OH8STN Ham Radio oh yes there is. All working over single usb connection. It’s data over CAT. Actually using a tablet with no Mic in.
@@CaptainK007 Hey what you are saying is quite interesting, what program are you using ? Do you have any documentation/video on this ? I'd like to know more.
Hello Julian, I wonder whether you've experienced a 'clicking' sound in the audio chain when going digital. The clicking was mentioned several times on a forum 5-6 years ago. The clicking appears to be in perfect pace with the baud rate set for CAT control. Have you experienced it?
Regards
Gust ON6KE
This series of the radio doesn't have that clicking. It seems to have been a feature of the early versions.
Mine had clean clear audio both incoming and outgoing.
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Julian oh8stn
Great Video, sorry I didn't comment sooner. Thanks for all the assistance you have given me.
No problem. I'm happy when I can help. Definitely not batting a hundred but it's nice to know someone get something out of it.
Thank you for putting this together. As always, excellent information.
You are very welcome. As always I wish I could do more. There's a new video dropping today by the way. I'm just writing about it in the other place.
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@@OH8STN Looking forward to it!
As always, many thanks for all you do clearing up these mysteries. Question... does the FT-891 have a way of "storing" multiple configurations? I'm just thinking of my IC-7300 and how slick it is to go back/forth between settings for SSB vs settings for digital modes. Does such a function exist for the FT-891 or do all of these settings have to be 'un-tweaked' if you want to switch over to SSB?
Settings on the ft-891 are brutally inadequate. There is an upside however. If your rig is in digital mode, the 891 will use the relevant digital mode settings, like audio input, bandwidth, Center frequency, and so on. When you switch over to SSB mode, it will switch those things automatically for settings more related to The Wider bandwidth of voice Communications. I really wish there were profiles for setting up the radio the way we like. The only way to do it on the ft-891 is setting up specific memories with the settings you like. Do that one for each band, then recall the setting to have your radio set up the way you like it. It's not the best way, but that's the way I've found Works nicely. The 7300 user interface is light years ahead of the 891.
@@OH8STN Thanks for the quick reply, Julian! I'm "shopping" (aka dreaming and $aving) for a 100w "portable" hf rig. The FT-891 is obviously a contender. Believe it or not, I'm also looking at the IC-7100. *Not sure the form factor is ideal with its permo-2-piece layout. On the other hand, it has built in sound card, and can serve as a base vhf/uhf rig when not in the field. As you've already noted, pity the FT-891 doesn't have built-in sound card, but...we play the cards we're dealt.
Julian, I have found an alternate method to having to move the SFT key to max. Instead, go to OTHER DISP 1500, OTHER SHIFT 1500, DATA LCUT FREQ OFF, DATA HCUT OFF, DATA PTT DAKY, go to main screen and adjust WDH to Max 3000, don't touch SFT! This will give you max receive on the center freq. I have these settings and they seem to work fine.
Thanks for this. Actually this is how I'm doing it these days. Your way is a much nicer way, and the shift still works as intended. I should make an update video on that.
HI. Would be great to cover small differences when setting up in Linux: No need to load drivers, they are there ready for use. Another thing is that user needs to belong to Dialout group to get USB connection. So not difficult as I got it to work :-)
I just have the data mode to others en then adjust the wdh from 500Hz to as wide as possible. I would advice not to use the shift. When selecting the frequency in ssb mode then switching to data the frequency changes just but it back i.e. to 7.078MHz in data. I love the yaesu scu-17 interface because it only needs 5V from the usb to operate. I t has the same driver as the cat from the ft-891 uses and even works on linux.
Great video! Thanks Julian.
Julian, I need to ask for your help if you have a moment. I have put the Sabrent sound card, the HIQUAY FTDI FT232 chipset 8 Pin Mini Din Male Serial to USB Adapter, CT-62 CAT Cable for Yaesu Radio, and the HQPARRTS 6pin Data Audio Cable for Digital Modes FT - FT8/FT4/JT65/PSK Audio Interface 6-Pin Mini DIN Cable DC-11F for YAESU FT-897, FT-857, FT-891 into my Amazon shopping cart. The sound card and the 6pin Data Audio Cable are for FT8? Is the other cable the CAT cable? I, also have the ADMS-891 USB-A to USB-B cable with the programming software. Are there enough ports on the radio? I'm already confused. Can you please help me? Thank you. David
Don't waste your money on all that stuff. Buy a Digirig. The 891 uses a USB cable for cat control. For data use the Digirig. You'll have two usb cables, without any complicated mess. Normally we'll use the digirig for audio and cat. Since the 891 Has its own usb port for cat control, We only use half of the digirig, along with the 891 usb port for cat.
It sounds complicated but it's a very simple way to do it.
Thank you very much!@@OH8STN
Hi Julian, Have you heard of and/or experienced the "CAT clicking" problem that's been reported with the FT-891? I'm thinking about buying a used one but I can't find out if that problem was a settings fix or a hardware problem that I'd need a warranty to repair. I'm really interested in running this with digital modes and if it has "issues" in some models I'd pay an extra $100 for the full 3 year warranty.
If you've experienced that problem and overcome it with a radio setting could you please respond to this comment?
Thanks and I really like your ham radio videos.
You know I'm just sitting here working on an ft-891 video. That clicking was in the first generation of the ft-891. In the more recent versions, there isn't that problem. It seems that Yaesu has quietly fixed it, without letting anyone know there was an initial problem. So 90% of the communications I do with the 891 are digital Communications. Winlink, js8, ... there's a website or possibly a group on Facebook that identified which of the 891 series, had the problem by its serial number. I'll need to find it, but I will include that in my video.
@@OH8STN wow thanks for the quick reply.
Hello Julian, you may have missed my reply to your comment below, so wondered if you can help please ? I attached a Ferrite Bead to the end of the USB cable (the PC end) and it seems to have worked, the TX continues for as long as needed now and does not cut out (I guess the source of the RFI is still there but at least I have a workround.
One other issue I am having with this setup, when I transmit on frequencies between 600Hz and around 1600Hz, full power (set to 25W) is achieved. When replying to CQ call on frequencies from around 1800Hz and up, my power drops to around 1-2 watts. Can you suggest what settings need to be changed or suggest what the problem may be ? My "Other Shift" setting on the radio is set to 1000Hz and "Width" setting to 800HZ. Thanks
You're absolutely right Martin. I didn't get the notification to the reply. Hate this sounds like exactly the same problem. I would suggest adding more ferrite beads if possible. The perfect solution would be using the shortest cables possible, in addition to ferrite beads. You can also root your coaxial cable away from any of audio or CAT co trol cables.
Thank you so much for putting this together, Julian.
Happy if it helps 👍👍👍
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Julian oh8stn
I finally got back to my radio this weekend and was able to run through this. Worked flawlessly. Thank you so much for doing that. Thinking the RTS setting was the problem child for me like it was for you.
For what it's worth, for the "other shift" setting I got some advice elsewhere to set that to 1500Hz, given where WSJT-X puts the center point for decoding relative to the tuned frequency. When I set the width to 3000Hz (the max width) I get a big dump of decodes so it seems to make sense that those two complement each other for the broadest range. All that said, I'm still relatively new to all of this so I may be totally making that up. :-D
Thank you again!
Glad I could help. That advice actually sounds logical and sounds good. I have it also set up that way now. But I figured it out after the video
Thanks for watching and coming back with some feedback. It's very much appreciated
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Julian oh8stn
Hi, just got mine set up and working. You have split set to none but I thought it had to be set to rig. I have been running my FT 817 with split set to rig and have been making contacts, but now I wonder if I am doing something wrong. Thanks
Neil 2E0CMN
Great video,
as I see the data mode is D-U 8 than you simple change shift 1000 hz width 500hz.A question Julian,can I put the Data Mode on USB mode?
Dinos..73..
Yes, you can also use USB mode 👍👍👍
@@OH8STN thanks Julian..73
For some reason, my PC does not show a USB audio codec. I have installed the Yaesu driver for the FT-891. I don't have my signalink yet, so is this codec something that its software will include?
The codec is the audio interface. The ft-891 doesn't have one internally. When you build or buy the audio interface, you'll see the audio codec once you plug it in.
What is the audio connector? Is it part of an optional cable? Included? Third party? Is it necessary?
If you want to run data comms you need the audio interface. The audio cable connects between the audio interface and the Radio Data port.
AWESOME VIDEO as always!!! just wondering what you are using for the interface and will this information be applicable to every/most interfaces or just the specific one you are using in this video? thanks a bunch !
73's
KB1ICK
I'm using the ZLP miniprosc, but this tutorial will work for the most part with signalink or similar interfaces as well. Thanks for the kindness, question and for watching. You're very welcome.
@@OH8STN Hi Julian quick question: I've the 891 and the MiniProSC. Having issues in D - U mode. Like I've not enough drive from laptop. Sometimes it works then stops. In USB mode works 100%. Any ideas ? 73 Paul
Digital gain setting for Data. Turn it up a little, but watch your ALC.
@@OH8STN One other question if I may. I got it to work for a several QSOs but then no RF Power. Checking the ALC shows very little audio. Increasing the drive level doesn't help - have you seen this before ? Could it be my ProSC ?
I've never seen the minipro SC fail, so I would start with checking cables, volume levels, audio interface settings and things like that
Hi,
Not sure if you are looking at the comments.?
When you show the screen of the FT-891 it is showing "D - U"
When did this appear..??, originally is showed LSB, did this get switched by WSJTX..??
Thanks..
Yeah as soon as wsjt-x takes over cat control it's switches the mode and frequency correctly
@@OH8STN Thanks...
Hello, I have configured my 891 according to your instructions and everything is working, just one question. I set the sound level so that the ALC would be minimal, but when changing the frequencie(selecting other user), the ALC also changes. Is it normal or I missed something?
You may have to adjust ALC when you change your band. There's so many variables it's kind of hard to say. But needing to adjust is perfectly normal.
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@@OH8STN thank you, but this frequency change is very small, say +100Hz and not on the radio, but on the WSJT-X program, but the ALC changes quite significantly. It is very interesting why this is so.
Thank you it works!
Hello, excelent video your settings function very well with HRD CAT control software, but only with WSJT-X the CAT control do not function, why?
Regards, Pablo HC1PE
Question. I have been running about 50 watts on ft8 and after about 15 min, the radio goes to zero or 10 watts when xmit. Why? Is 50 too much for the 891 in digital? Or is it something else? Just making sure I'm not doing something wrong. Then after about an hour goes to 50 again after not transmitting. Thoughts? Thx. 73 K9WAS
This is a huge red flag Andrew. There's a variety of things which could cause this. Your SWR is too high, you're over driving the radio (checked with ALC meter while txing). It could be poor coax cable, bad station grounding, or poor ventilation (put 891 fan on contest setting). It could also be a combination of these things. What we are sure about is the ft-891 is folding back its output power, because something is wrong. It's protecting itself from damaged by reducing the output power. This is by design.
In the Device Manager setting for Sound, video and game controllers I have USB PnP Sound Device instead of USB Audio Codex. Will this work?
Great thanks .. maybe you can do also a Tutorial about using the Programm , i am totally new 😀
Thanks !! Cat cable is a normal usb Printer cable ?
That's right
OH8STN thanks
I wish I had found your video before plugging the USB cable in. I can't seem to be able to get the drivers working, Kinda bummed out...
The last step, SFT > 1000 Hz, very important. I set Pwr to -5dB near top. USB rig control & USB external sound card. Thanks!!
Ken Cone why is it important? I set mine to 0hz and im able to transmit normally? What is the secret behind this 1000hz shift?
I tried all this but my FT-891 is not transmitting anything in Data Mode. PTT is triggered (orange LED) but power output is 0. If I use SSB everything works fine. I would like to use data mode not switching mic port and BFO all the time but how?
I have the Ft-891 and wound like to do ft8 and other data modes. Is there a way have cat control with out an interface? till i can get on. 73 WA6RDH
As usual Julian, a great video! I can't wait to receive my gear and set it up. Chat with you on the air soon.
Sincerely
Robert 8P6RC
Robert Chambers thanks Robert. I'm usually all about the utilitarian aspects of amateur radio. I must admit, FT8 is fun :)
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Great video. Any chance on show how the cable for the sound interface is made? I've tried but have some wrong. Thanks and 73- K6SPA
Got a question for you I am just getting into digital what program do you use?
It really depends on the mode. If you want to do ft8 or wspr you'll need to use wsjt-x. If you want to run JS8, JS8Call. Everything else, FLDigi.
@@OH8STN ok cool thanks one more question what do u use for HD email?
Hf not hd
@@donnymazon8516 there are two options. PSKMail and WinLink. PSKMail has its own client for every OS, WinLink is Winfows only, but there is an independent Raspberry Pi deployment
Ok cool thanks for the info
What do you like about the DigiMaster MiniProSC over the Signalink?
Its small size
OH8STN & YankeeRoad, Ham Radio MiniProSC receives better, -92dB compared to SignaLink at -75dB. And it’s cheaper.
May I please know if I will need the MiniProSC data interface? If so, it would appear that these are no longer available for FT891. 4S7EF
This is a special radio and works a little bit differently than others. I would buy the Digirig interface for FT891, FT857, FT818. Because this radio already has its own USB connection. You only need the audio connection from thee Digirig. This means for data modes. You'll have two cables one from the radio and one from the audio interface. www.digirig.net
Hope this helps
Thank you. Understand that you have done a video on how to use an inexpensive sound card and Yaesu cables to replace the more expensive sound cards? 4S7EF
It's not worth it. You'll get the best results and least frustration with thee Digirig. The problem with doing it the cheap way with the yasu cables is overdriving the radio and polluting the spectrum for all the other operators who can hear you. It's much easier to set up with a digirig.
@@OH8STN noted. Thank you very much 4S7EF
I have gone through your video a couple of times, and I am not sure where the DIGIRIG cables are connected. Will it be possible to kindly do schematic of how ALL cables are connected PLEASE?😊 4S7EF
I want to connect the 891 without an audio box interface. Is this possible?
I have the same setup. But in audio settings, both show the codecs, but both say (not found). Do you have any idea what the problem might be? Thanks, CA4JDM / CE4JDM
Install the Yaesu drivers while the radio is unplugged from your computer.
Also, if that doesn't work, try a better quality USB cable.
@@OH8STN Thanks. I tried both things, but still does not work. The computer uses Windows 11 (I hate it!) I set it up in an older computer with Windows 10 and it works perfect!
No windows 11 for me over here. I'm going to hold out as long as I can
Hi 👋Julian! Quick question. Do you have to run an external sound card for FT8 with the 891 or just the USB 1 to USB2 from radio to computer. I’m gonna give digital a try and have been learning from your videos.
N1UFO/ Gabriel hello Gabriel. There's no internal sound card on the 891 (a shame) so we have to run an external audio interface.
So brand new to this and have the 891. What is the MiniPro box on top of the 891 you're using and what is its function? Is MiniPro required?
+Shortwave Listener that little box is the audio interface. It allows you to run software on a laptop tablet or Raspberry Pi, for digital Communications like psk, Olivia, ft8, or rtty. So it's job is to take the sound from the apps running on your computer, and turn those into something the radio can work with sending out over the air. It's only required if your running digital modes
OH8STN is the MiniPro the only vendor with this interface, or are there others (MiniPro price seems a bit high)?
You do the same thing by making your own cable. There is another company who makes audio interface is called signalink. And unfortunately the price is always what it is in amateur radio. The trick is to build as much of it yourself as you can
Kiitos! Everything worked as shown but the FT-891 will not select the rear panel for data input and instead selects the mic, even though "Rear" has been selected. Any hints on this?
This got me too...even factory reset..then thought about it... it depends on the mode your on...if its SSB then you need to change the 11-05 menu.... change the mic select to rear for what ever mode your using! 73's
@@ah2ejshane600 This is one of my problem i noticed it was using mic because if i talked it would move power out.. this was on SSB, but now when i ptt using wsjtx it moves radio into data u mode every time instead of just leaving it in ssb.
Is there a Linux version or workaround for the drivers, or does the Sabrent take care of that?
I would say that Linux takes care of that. After plugging into a Linux computer use the command "dmesg | tail" and it will show the last things that happened, if you issued this command right after plugging the USB cable in it will tell you what tty devices were created
How do I get FT-891 Data mode to do full 2.3K bandwidth for VARA?
Select filter from the front panel button, then adjust the bandwidth to 2300hz. Winlink Express will automatically put it to 3000 Hertz forcing you to change it every time.
My problem is I am not computer savvy. A person keeps asking me. Did I put this in and I put that in did I do this? Did I do that. I just don’t know who to talk to about getting this properly set up on the computer.
First thing to do is define the task, breaking down each part of the setup into individual steps. Itemize the steps onto a piece of paper stro 1, step 2, step 3, ... Under each step write the goal, pre-requisites, required materials and expected results. This is basically your project plan.
There are no tutorials which will be exactly identical to your setup. This is especially true when you're commenting or watching older videos with hardware which is unavailable anymore.
Is the shift of 1 kHz really needed? Would a width of 2500 Hz (or 2700) be more effective at decoding more signals?
I've been having the same argument with my buddies. I would say yes smaller bandwidth would be more efficient. Anyway the answer to your question is no it is not required. In fact sometimes I limit the bandwidth to just 500 Hertz, when I want to reduce the noise or interference from powerful stations
Thank you for your answer and I will keep this in mind. By the way I'm also a HAM (SY2COB)
One more Question :) should i Switch AGC off ? If i Turn it on, on the left side my Waterfall is red then ... and what about NAR ?
Great question. I usually run with agc off when running data modes. The best advice I can give you is not to be afraid to test and find the best setup for you. AGC is definitely off but I think settings can be applied dynamically based on the situation. Does that make sense?
@@OH8STN yes ! thank you.... i am new in HAM Radio so i have much Questions :) i will try it......
@@mabo4848 no worries. You can always ask questions although I don't always answer so quickly.
OH8STN Thank you 😀
very informative.
Hello Julian, this is an excellent video which I followed to the letter and managed to set up my FT-891 with WSJT-X connected to my Laptop using a SignaLink interface. I have a problem though which I'm hoping you can help me with. After about 5-10 transmissions, the CAT control seems to get lost and the radio does not transmit any power. If I unplug the USB plug from the Laptop (the one connected to the radio) then re-connect it, the CAT control is re-established. The number of transmissions varies before this happens. I have tried altering the Power (15 watts and 30 watts) and it happens on both. Do you have any thoughts on what could be causing this ? It's rather annoying, especially if I am in the middle of a QSO ! Thanks. Martin
Sounds like RFI.
Try a shorter USB cable. In fact try to reduce the length of all of your cables, as much as possible. This is just fixing the symptoms though. Trying to figure out if you're getting current in your coax, from your antenna.
Thanks for the question and the comment, it's very much appreciated
@@OH8STN Thanks Julian, I attached a Ferrite Bead to the end of the USB cable (the PC end) and it seems to have worked, the TX continues for as long as needed now and does not cut out (I guess the source of the RFI is still there but at least I have a workround. One other issue I am having with this setup, when I transmit on frequencies between 600Hz and around 1600Hz, full power (set to 25W) is achieved. When replying to CQ call on frequencies from around 1800Hz and up, my power drops to around 1-2 watts. Can you suggest what settings need to be changed or suggest what the problem may be ? My "Other Shift" setting on the radio is set to 1000Hz and "Width" setting to 800HZ. Thanks
First, thank you for the tutorial. My question.>I'm brand new...imagine a person who has never even heard the term 'Ham' and wants to connect an FT 891 to his computer. He doesn't know what cables to buy, what adapters, terminals..any of that. What would you say?
Jesse Knapp I'd say "watch the video" 😉
Jesse Knapp the question is too abstract Jesse. The operator has to know what he or she wants to achieve, then move forward from there. Unlike lots of other Hobbies, this one requires a fair amount of background research. From this perspective clubs, events, partnering with friends or family who are already licensed, is usually the best way to get started.
i tried all these setting set up the rig and software like he said and could not get to work i have been trying over a month, uninstall the software and drivers and reset the radio reset all back up has a complete failure still would not work
very good video very good thanks JUlian you number one you numero uno 73
you are very welcome.
What audio interface are you using?
Aaron Lancaster he’s using a DigiMaster MiniProSC.
Awesome video
Got it to ingage the ptt but it doesn't seem to be transmitting anything
N4AOX new operator having trouble with 891 running DigiPan --CCW. I have rigged a CAT (Silicon Labs UART Advance RS232 Port) on my Win 7 Laptop USB/Com #6, but still cannot get the
PTT signal to go to transmit thru the CAT port (mini-USB on the 891). I have the Data In and Data Out 6 pin
DIN plug coming from computer laptop with the mic-in and mic-out 1/8 plugs.
The rig works fine with PSK31 on the DIGITAL MODEM from China, with its own
onboard sound card thru the 891 using the 6 pin DIN plug on the 891 to 6pin DIN on the DIGITAL MODEM.
The rig runs DigiPan on the LAPTOP in receive AOK, but NO
TRANSMIT. I can hold down the Mic. PTT and it does seem to send, but cannot get the PTT
signal from the LAPTOP through the Cat Cord to work, even though DigiPan recognizes Com#5 PTT-RST-on.
I want it to work PSK-31 like is described on Page 64 of the 891 advanced manual using a
laptop. I have gone thru the 891 memory menu settings several times. Is the lower diagram P.64
in the 891 advance manual NOT CORRECT?
I would bet anything the problem is either
(1) the Silicon Labs uart Advanced rs-232 Port.
(2) The Yaesu USB drivers were not installed or not configured correctly.
(3) The wrong USB port was chosen.
The manual is 100% correct.
@@OH8STN I can make it work by holding down PTT button on Mike but that is not convenient. I can do like they did in the old days and build a little circuit to VOX the data-in and dump a killer voltage on the 891 PTT line internally but hate to start carving on a 1 mo old radio.
@@ccwynn6657 I think the problem is somewhere between the radio and the chair. 😉
I gave you 3 troubleshooting points to consider, test those. You could also simply enable Vox on the data port. If you're unsuccessful, you could also contact Yaesu support. I'm sure they can walk through your configuration with you.
So this software WSJT-X can allow us to see the waterfall on the 891?
I'm not sure if I understand your question. Wsjt-x has its own waterfall. That waterfall is generated by the audio coming out of the ft-891..
From my experience I’ve come to
Cw freq display FREQ
Data mode OTHERS
Other disp 1500
Other shift 1500
Data lcut freq OFF
Data hcut freq OFF
And from main screen set WDH to maximum 3000, don't touch SFT.
Doing so we have maximum width filter starting at our dial frequency (=tuned freq) centered at dial freq+1500.
I didn’t find any detailed explanation of those Shift and Disp did it mostly experimentally.
But they look like: Filter center=tuned freq+Shift and Dial freq=Filter center - Disp
Sure everything Inside 891 is much more complex since it's triple conversion radio + DSP. My explanation above is as if we are dealing with classic single conversion SSB receiver.
73
Andrey RA0UFF
Thanks Andre. I've arrived at very similar settings now. The bandwidth and the shift functions in the front panel of the radio work together. You can narrow the bandwidth with the bandwidth setting on the front panel and then moved the shift for the signal you want to focus on. This will bring a signal that is almost inaudible, up to Reliable and perfectly readable level. Thanks for sharing these settings I always look forward to your comments.
73
Julian oh8stn
Yep, in case of weak signal and/or interference we could always use WDH+SFT to narrow bw and focus on desired station.
If i wanted to use ft891 cat control with a mac what driver would i need?
You might have to check the Yaesu.com website for drivers. If your Mac is linux-based like most modern Apple computers are, you won't need a driver.
I have a 2010 MacBook Pro and did not have to load any drivers.
Do you have also the well known ticking noise by using cat control? And the terrible headphone hiss?
The ticking noise was only found on some early models. I never had any headphone hiss or even heard of that.
@@OH8STN thanks for you fast reply. The hiss in the headphone seems to be found on the early and latest models. 73' PD5RVL Roy.
You're welcome. Perhaps, but never had either problem with mine.
Tks de PU2LJH 🇧🇷 73.
Hello, How do I change from LSB to USB below 10 mhz? D-U does not wouk... ???
For voice or for data?
If it's for voice you long press on the band button then select the mode. For data you change the date of bfo D-U or D-L
By the way all data Communications on HF except for Mars are USB. even below 30M
That poses a small problem for me since i have interest in Olivia and JS8Call [all in USB] and checking into the Texas traffic net on LSB all on 40 meters.@@OH8STN
I don't see why it's a problem, it's just a radio vfo setting
Hi. And how to see the stations in all the waterfall? Thanx
I don't quite understand your question. Can you elaborate?
Hi, sorry. I read all the comments and understood. I meant how to work the whole 3000 hz. Now I know. The only thing is the power, that gos no more than 40. I use it in USB mode (none option in jtdx) and works great. Thanx 73 - CX9CPE, Pablo
All is working here but I do NOT have an audio OUT ........
Put the radio in data mode USB.D
@@OH8STN Ii IS ihn that D-U mode.
Solve the Problem.....
At 9min , isnt it better to set the WDH to 3000 ?
Depends. With FT8 when chasing stations, sure I agree. When you're having trouble copying a station, reducing the filter to more narrow, increases rx sensitivity, provided the width and shift are used together to get your filters "around" the sig you want to hear.
@@OH8STN Ok Thank you !
Hello Buddy,
in 40 days we are in Saplunara on the Croatian Mljet island. What about You? :-)
Hello Bk. I'm still thinking about Croatia but later in the year. Are you taking your boat this time?
One of the main reason why we go to Croatia (Adria Sea) is our boat :-)
First time in Cro (2014) we were without the boat. After that we said us: either we buy us a boat, or we don't need to go there.
Another quality of "beaching" ;-) without the hundreds of people around You on the normal beach. You can reach places/small beaches, where no one will come on foot.
Having the cooling box onboard with all drinks You need a day ;-), You go out in the early morning, coming back at the sunset. Every pub or restaurant on the shore has the possibility to bind the boat and offers such tasty food (our bests: grilled fish and steaks with truffles).
Jul, don't hesitate - take You bike and come on :-)
Bk, Augen wurden unversöhnlich. Motorrad Touren ist nicht mehr möglich.
Privat PM.
....now I know why I don't do ft8...looks overly complicated just to get a 5&9 report and goodbye.
FT8 is boring. It's not even possible to have a discussion. Just s contest mode.
I may be new to ham radio but FT8 seems pretty useless. You don't convey any information. Win link shows promise but digital modes that simply prove that radios can make contact while watching bars fill on a screen. It's like watching paint dry.
I'm not a big fan of FT8, but many other operators are. Therefore I make videos and tutorials to help get those interested, started. It's also a good mood to test whether or not our antenna systems, are performing as expected.
Totally enjoyed your video. Very informative. Thank you.