Memories of Junior High will help me as I grow old. No matter how much pain I'm in I can just close my eyes, take a deep breath, and remind myself "...at least I'm not 12 years old." Also, I knew bullys were miserable. I just just felt bad that I wasn't the person causing their suffering.
Junior High/Middle school is funny. We took everything so seriously in those days. For me it was the early nineties. It was our adolescent minds and lack of maturity. Every little thing or drama or school crush/cute girl made us go crazy inside and we all we so sensitive about everything. We wore the cringiest fashion that made us feel so cool, yet was so tacky! We made everything awkward that was not supposed to be. So social status and self esteem could be crushed by a bully or snarky mean girl's comments. There was this one girl Mandy in my grade that acted so snobbish and mean towards everybody. All that mattered to her was fashion and brands, and status and popularity and being cooler than everyone else. People acted like they liked her, especially her friend clique, but she gossiped about everyone. Including me, the New England transplant from Boston, moved down south to Tennessee by dad's job several years before. For years she acted like I was weird and out of step no matter what I did just because I wasn't southern by birth. She even spoke about her friends behind their backs. It makes me wonder what her issues were. I can see now that she was the one with low self esteem, judging herself, comparing herself to others, always seeking approval and adoration. That stupid superlative she got in the yearbook meant so much more to her that I realized at the time...
yeah she was great until she was crying every single scene and then it just became annoying. the seasons in pakistan and lebanon were cool though. the season in america was stupid
Claire is super cool, always has been. Conan makes his guests so comfortable that they know they can be all goofy if they want, they can be themselves, it's a rare quality he has.
My highschool broadcast journalism teacher, who I talked to so much for 4 years was formerly Claire's teacher in the performing arts school. He said she was such a mature, kind and unique girl; the other girls were very jealous of her and her talent. I always loved that anecdote.
Verisimilitude has stuck with me since third grade and Claire is my teacher who still tries to keep that form of english alive. Keep vocabufuckering this world babe!
Exactly! I remember running home after school to watch My So-Called Life. Whenever she's cries I always think, "How can you be MORE Beautiful crying???". Just love her! 🙏🏽💕🥰
I agree. I’m 48, and I have such clear memories of being in HS watching My So Called Life and feeling like she represented such a real and down to earth reflection of myself.
@@sweiland75 Some of us didn’t have any other options, back in the day It was either the judgmental kids who let you stay around them, or the other judgmental kids who did not 🤷♂️
Yeah, in junior high I had "friends" like that too, they continously made me the scapegoat and butt of all the jokes. They were the "cool" tough girls, who had siblings that were popular. I put up with it, because I was too scared, I didn't think anyone else would like me. Sophomore year, on the first day, they told me to get lost. It was the best thing that ever happened to me, I found real friends and discovered I could clique hop. I had friends from all groups. They eventually screwed each other over and disbanded and two of them came crying back to me, blaming the other. In the end, it turned out OK, for everyone.
Junior High is where you send your kids to break their souls early in life. I thought we all knew this. That said, I own the whole series DVD set of "My So Called Life" because at the time it came out I found it kinda healing, and it also helped me see my parents as more than just my parents.
What’s weird about it, is we just as a society accept it. Does it HAVE to be this way? Did we HAVE to go through it? Do our kids and then grandkids HAVE to go through it? Can’t it be some other way? Or perhaps there is no other way to transition from everyone’s happy and gets along on Sesame Street and The Brady Bunch reruns to the cruel harsh realities of the adult world.
p.s. maybe The Brady Bunch wasn’t a good analogy since that show frequently covered kids feeling like outcasts and dealing with conflict and even bullying from peers.
@@EastSide-qc5oy I think it's _maybe_ necessary because of the sudden and rapid brain development that goes on at around middle school age. It's a tough age range because empathy isn't automatic in humans. This is the age when human beings can first begin experimenting with issues dealing with empathy in order to develop (or not) this area of brain function. This is also the time when social engineering parts of the brain are growing faster as well. Put those two suddenly hyper-sprouting things together, and it can be hard for the kid, hard for the parents, and hard for everyone around the kid. Some have a harder time than others, but it's much more than just a matter of telling kids to behave.
A huge flaw in Conan's "I wish I could go back and tell the younger me..." notion, which we all have had: It was still the younger you, who probably wouldn't have listened to the older you, or written you off as a sad old guy who they were never going to become.
I've never really cared for Claire Danes' work until I got around to watching her in Homeland a year ago. She knocked it out of the park in that show, supremely talented actress.
For me, it was the opposite. Middle school was great, but then my closest friend at the time gradually became a piece-of-crap supremacist in junior year of high school, so I had to sever them from my life completely. Luckily, I transferred schools around that time.
@@worthless_opinion That's very kind. I hope it would be the kind of joke Conan would appreciate and not take offense, because that was not intended at all. He HAS compared his looks to Finnish president Tarja Halonen in the past, and claimed Tilda Swinton's Oscar win for his own in the sketch where he presented his resume!
Claire was making a very interesting point, starting at around 7:40.. She was talking about her early years, after high school, on her own as an actor.. Conan COMPLETELY sidetracks her at 8:45 and he doesn't return her to the story she was telling.. LISTEN to your guest, Conan. You and Howie M. do this a lot.
I like the detour they took rather than her droning on about something only a tiny fraction of people could empathize with. She was speaking so vaguely it was mind-numbing (to me). He saw a more interesting path and led them down that one while still talking about her and her experiences. So yeah, I actually appreciate the detour. Plus, it was a path that he had something in common with so of course he's going to chase it. Plus you know, he's a famous talk show host and has thousands of hours of experience doing this so...
Sad of course what they must have said or done to you. And sad that their lives were so messed up at home where it should have been safest that they were taking out that angst and pain on others.
jfc..... the time of the year each was born has zero bearing on how this interview went. pseudoscience is so cringe, and as an actual adult i feel sorry for the people who are actually bamboozled by it.
"verisimilitude" - the act of trying to appear normal. Well, at least I spelled it right when I looked it up. Her vocab is too casually high. I feel dumb. "obsequious" "verisimilitude"
So she and anyone who reads a lot should not use the words we know, so you won't feel dumb? I think it's great you looked the word up, and I don't think worse of you or anyone for not knowing it. I'm sure you know a lot of things I don't know. No one should feel dumb for not knowing something. You don't know it, so what? If you are interested, you'll look it up. If not, you won't. To each her (or his) own.
This is so true! I have always been a reader, and I have always had a very strong vocabulary, but to this day, I find myself choosing more informal words when I talk to colleagues because they do not understand a lot of the words that I use. I do not want to appear arrogant, but at the same time, I like to use the words that I know, and that I am comfortable with.
How effing ridiculous that she says she was "stunned" that her grandma was so deeply involved in theater arts, like her dad had zero memory of his own mom
I completely agree that this brand of basketball is the best. It’s great to watch. I feel like they are really implementing theory and plays and playing team ball. Its excellent. I think that people think that 3 point ball is more enjoyable bc if the constant adrenaline hits but at the end of the day it’s not. The shiny thing isn’t always the best thing.
Im still scarred from ordering a My So Called Life DVD box set in maybe 2000... and getting nothing at all. I think maybe nobody ever got it. Some shady company I guess was making them and went under and couldnt deliver the goods.
i mean you should get the real one and correct/heal the whole thing; it's definitely more than worth it. it absolutely holds up, quality and emotionally, and makes one extra-mad as an adult that they cancelled such a television work of art.
it wasn't a put-on though. she was simply using the english language as it was meant to be used, and *get THIS* ...choosing the actual best word to convey meaning in a sentence. crazy, i know!
Girls were supposed to pretend they weren’t engaged in learning? I don’t know where a lot of these women get these ideas from. Maybe Claire wasn’t liked in school for a multitude of other reasons. School was difficult socially for most people. Teenagers growing into adults and trying to figure themselves out and the world around them. I’m sure it had very little to do with Claire being intelligent and a female.
it's a well-established, particularly american phenomenon. for instance, it is addressed in 'persepolis' when the young satrapi character is verily confused over girls not being socially awarded for being academically astute, in this new country. really sad/frustrating, but totally prevalent.
I have the same feeling. She’s sharing so much info and being so open.. this should be riveting. But there’s something missing.. what is it? Pizazz? Is she speaking too slowly, too many “um’s” and too much detail in little things? Needs More dialogue with Conan like a back and forth convo and it’s too much about her right now even tho she’s the guest/interviewee? I can’t put my finger on it
@@h3artands0uLL i think it's actually vagueness. she's in big monologues of describing a ton of what's in her head but not giving examples that play upon the senses or festoon the imagination with actual story. it's okay, she's still a ton more fascinating than most.
nah, not at all. it's just you live in a monosyllabic dumbed down country that bans books and awards academic mediocrity by junior high, and the people who actually care about choosing the best and most descriptive english meet the mockery that you're demonstrating and reinforcing here, so you call it pretentious. fugging sad, more like it.
Always loved this girl/lady/woman. Such a fan from the early years and she’s still gorgeous and sweet. A real genuine star.
I love how open she is
Just ask Billy.
Memories of Junior High will help me as I grow old. No matter how much pain I'm in I can just close my eyes, take a deep breath, and remind myself "...at least I'm not 12 years old." Also, I knew bullys were miserable. I just just felt bad that I wasn't the person causing their suffering.
Good point. I'm gonna work that image too - no amount of pain could get close
Junior High/Middle school is funny. We took everything so seriously in those days. For me it was the early nineties. It was our adolescent minds and lack of maturity. Every little thing or drama or school crush/cute girl made us go crazy inside and we all we so sensitive about everything. We wore the cringiest fashion that made us feel so cool, yet was so tacky! We made everything awkward that was not supposed to be. So social status and self esteem could be crushed by a bully or snarky mean girl's comments. There was this one girl Mandy in my grade that acted so snobbish and mean towards everybody. All that mattered to her was fashion and brands, and status and popularity and being cooler than everyone else. People acted like they liked her, especially her friend clique, but she gossiped about everyone. Including me, the New England transplant from Boston, moved down south to Tennessee by dad's job several years before. For years she acted like I was weird and out of step no matter what I did just because I wasn't southern by birth. She even spoke about her friends behind their backs. It makes me wonder what her issues were. I can see now that she was the one with low self esteem, judging herself, comparing herself to others, always seeking approval and adoration. That stupid superlative she got in the yearbook meant so much more to her that I realized at the time...
Great talk!...or interview,....I liked hearing Claire's candid retelling of her life story. A lower keyed Conan, made that possible.
She was amazing in the early seasons of Homeland. Smart and socially aware woman, by the looks of it - never knew. Pleasant surprise.
Being socially aware is a negative
@@snicker576 shut up.
@@snicker576 how so?
@@NyzoiB It generally just leads to incessant yapping and whining
yeah she was great until she was crying every single scene and then it just became annoying. the seasons in pakistan and lebanon were cool though. the season in america was stupid
Claire is super cool, always has been. Conan makes his guests so comfortable that they know they can be all goofy if they want, they can be themselves, it's a rare quality he has.
You need to research her some more.
@@ericryanyawl9401how about just telling us what you’re referring to instead of replying with a vague, passive aggressive comment?
@@ericryanyawl9401agreed with what follow up comment to yours said. What do you mean?
@@lisagrace6471 The drama, oh the drama.
She's got a great vocabulary. No "likes" or calling everything epic or amazing. I so appreciate that.
My highschool broadcast journalism teacher, who I talked to so much for 4 years was formerly Claire's teacher in the performing arts school. He said she was such a mature, kind and unique girl; the other girls were very jealous of her and her talent. I always loved that anecdote.
Loved her in My so called life. The 90's nostalgia is real, folks.
Sucks it only lasted 1season but many 90s kids like me still remember the show. What girl didn't have a crush on Jared Leto.
@@latingirl042Jordan Catalano ❤
@@Sdority905 The show is on HULU. I've seen it several times mostly cause of him. He's so handsome ❤️
Verisimilitude has stuck with me since third grade and Claire is my teacher who still tries to keep that form of english alive. Keep vocabufuckering this world babe!
Right??? I was like, “did she really just say ‘verisimilitude’??” 😂
It's a pure joy to watch Conan show his exceptional interviewer skills.
It's a joy to watch conan hang out with people he genuinely enjoys being around.
This is boring.
@@matthewkasper2202you're a sad person. Try keeping these intrusive thoughts to yourself maybe...
I don't think anybody represent us teenagers in the 90s like Claire does.
Exactly! I remember running home after school to watch My So-Called Life. Whenever she's cries I always think, "How can you be MORE Beautiful crying???". Just love her! 🙏🏽💕🥰
I agree. I’m 48, and I have such clear memories of being in HS watching My So Called Life and feeling like she represented such a real and down to earth reflection of myself.
Getting bullied by your ‘friends’ is the worst because you believe what they say
Bullies are not friends.
@@sweiland75
Some of us didn’t have any other options, back in the day
It was either the judgmental kids who let you stay around them, or the other judgmental kids who did not 🤷♂️
Friends should build you up, not tear you down. Toxic people like that you don't need in your life. 👍⬆️😊 👎⬇️😞
Yeah, in junior high I had "friends" like that too, they continously made me the scapegoat and butt of all the jokes. They were the "cool" tough girls, who had siblings that were popular. I put up with it, because I was too scared, I didn't think anyone else would like me. Sophomore year, on the first day, they told me to get lost. It was the best thing that ever happened to me, I found real friends and discovered I could clique hop. I had friends from all groups. They eventually screwed each other over and disbanded and two of them came crying back to me, blaming the other. In the end, it turned out OK, for everyone.
@@sweiland75that’s why the commenter put “friends” in quotes….
I love you two so much!!! What a lovely clip. Signing up to this podcast now! Thank you!
😊
That's amazing. All this time I was sure she stood for the politics of junior high but now I know the truth. Thank god for podcasts.
She’s so beautiful I want to cry
This is the interview that will make me finally watch Homeland
You’ll be Glad you did.😊😊😊
Junior High is where you send your kids to break their souls early in life. I thought we all knew this. That said, I own the whole series DVD set of "My So Called Life" because at the time it came out I found it kinda healing, and it also helped me see my parents as more than just my parents.
What’s weird about it, is we just as a society accept it. Does it HAVE to be this way? Did we HAVE to go through it? Do our kids and then grandkids HAVE to go through it? Can’t it be some other way? Or perhaps there is no other way to transition from everyone’s happy and gets along on Sesame Street and The Brady Bunch reruns to the cruel harsh realities of the adult world.
p.s. maybe The Brady Bunch wasn’t a good analogy since that show frequently covered kids feeling like outcasts and dealing with conflict and even bullying from peers.
@@EastSide-qc5oy I think it's _maybe_ necessary because of the sudden and rapid brain development that goes on at around middle school age. It's a tough age range because empathy isn't automatic in humans. This is the age when human beings can first begin experimenting with issues dealing with empathy in order to develop (or not) this area of brain function. This is also the time when social engineering parts of the brain are growing faster as well. Put those two suddenly hyper-sprouting things together, and it can be hard for the kid, hard for the parents, and hard for everyone around the kid. Some have a harder time than others, but it's much more than just a matter of telling kids to behave.
A huge flaw in Conan's "I wish I could go back and tell the younger me..." notion, which we all have had: It was still the younger you, who probably wouldn't have listened to the older you, or written you off as a sad old guy who they were never going to become.
She has aged gracefully. Looks super natural.
I've never really cared for Claire Danes' work until I got around to watching her in Homeland a year ago. She knocked it out of the park in that show, supremely talented actress.
For me, it was the opposite. Middle school was great, but then my closest friend at the time gradually became a piece-of-crap supremacist in junior year of high school, so I had to sever them from my life completely. Luckily, I transferred schools around that time.
Conan kept calling her show Homelander 😆😆
I love Claire Danes! Where can I listen to the entire episode?
"Oh he's got talent!" LOL
Intelligent, charming, beautiful, kind, humble and immensely talented woman.
And Claire Danes was great in this interview, too.
@@samcyphers2902keep your day job… you’re not a comedian.
@@calisongbird I deeply appreciate your constructive criticism.
@@samcyphers2902 I thought it was a good joke, don't mind the troll.
@@worthless_opinion That's very kind. I hope it would be the kind of joke Conan would appreciate and not take offense, because that was not intended at all. He HAS compared his looks to Finnish president Tarja Halonen in the past, and claimed Tilda Swinton's Oscar win for his own in the sketch where he presented his resume!
Claire was making a very interesting point, starting at around 7:40.. She was talking about her early years, after high school, on her own as an actor.. Conan COMPLETELY sidetracks her at 8:45 and he doesn't return her to the story she was telling.. LISTEN to your guest, Conan. You and Howie M. do this a lot.
I like the detour they took rather than her droning on about something only a tiny fraction of people could empathize with. She was speaking so vaguely it was mind-numbing (to me). He saw a more interesting path and led them down that one while still talking about her and her experiences. So yeah, I actually appreciate the detour. Plus, it was a path that he had something in common with so of course he's going to chase it. Plus you know, he's a famous talk show host and has thousands of hours of experience doing this so...
this entire episode was so ‼️😍
My sister went to school with her and she was very nice and super smart
She’s very real
I knew my bullies were miserable. At one point I was friends with them and Their lives at home were as they used to describe is harsh and horrid.
:( that’s sad
Sad of course what they must have said or done to you. And sad that their lives were so messed up at home where it should have been safest that they were taking out that angst and pain on others.
beautiful interview
Claire ❤ seeing her reminds me of my junior high days
School sucks.
My sister went to school with her (PPAS) and also hated it!! Effectively chased my sister out of pursuing dance for not being skinny enough.
We had to write an Autobiography in 8th grade and I had just got done watching My So Called Life, so I based my title on it
I couldn't agree more. The kids in jr.high ruined my whole school experience. Going to college was a relief.
That authentic natural vibe translated very well in cult favorite My So Called Life - b/c of her upbringing lifestyle
RE: The Planet trembling in joyful anticipation of Claire Danes' arrival.
Me: The proper reaction👌
When two cute aries interviewing or talking to each other, always lovely to watch..
jfc..... the time of the year each was born has zero bearing on how this interview went. pseudoscience is so cringe, and as an actual adult i feel sorry for the people who are actually bamboozled by it.
She’s amazing.
Middle school kids were the nastiest, most insecure peers ever
ask 100 females and 99 of them will have nightmere jr high school stories
I'm haunted yet entertained by the the Conan, jester ghost!
"verisimilitude" - the act of trying to appear normal. Well, at least I spelled it right when I looked it up. Her vocab is too casually high. I feel dumb. "obsequious" "verisimilitude"
I found it slightly insufferable and ponderous.
So she and anyone who reads a lot should not use the words we know, so you won't feel dumb?
I think it's great you looked the word up, and I don't think worse of you or anyone for not knowing it. I'm sure you know a lot of things I don't know. No one should feel dumb for not knowing something. You don't know it, so what? If you are interested, you'll look it up. If not, you won't. To each her (or his) own.
@@jkaznosky this is ironic.
@@robincrowflies I'm glad you got the point
This is so true! I have always been a reader, and I have always had a very strong vocabulary, but to this day, I find myself choosing more informal words when I talk to colleagues because they do not understand a lot of the words that I use. I do not want to appear arrogant, but at the same time, I like to use the words that I know, and that I am comfortable with.
Love Temple film!
I love Conan ❤
It's Bo Katan Kryze. .
And Claire Danes
How effing ridiculous that she says she was "stunned" that her grandma was so deeply involved in theater arts, like her dad had zero memory of his own mom
Wow you must be miserable to take it that way. She was saying she was stunned because she never knew that about her grandmother
I came here to learn verisamilitude
verisimilitude*
I completely agree that this brand of basketball is the best. It’s great to watch. I feel like they are really implementing theory and plays and playing team ball. Its excellent.
I think that people think that 3 point ball is more enjoyable bc if the constant adrenaline hits but at the end of the day it’s not. The shiny thing isn’t always the best thing.
Im still scarred from ordering a My So Called Life DVD box set in maybe 2000... and getting nothing at all. I think maybe nobody ever got it. Some shady company I guess was making them and went under and couldnt deliver the goods.
i mean you should get the real one and correct/heal the whole thing; it's definitely more than worth it. it absolutely holds up, quality and emotionally, and makes one extra-mad as an adult that they cancelled such a television work of art.
This is not a criticism, but Claire often speaks, in acting and in real life, as if she is on the verge of tears.
Social anxiety. I have it too
@@somethingclever2 lol did you just diagnose her?
Oh Claire.. People on the other side of the Ivy Curtain don't use the word verisimilitude in conversation.. We already know you're a bright one 👌
it wasn't a put-on though. she was simply using the english language as it was meant to be used, and *get THIS* ...choosing the actual best word to convey meaning in a sentence. crazy, i know!
People pleaser? She refused my wife’s request for an autograph.
That's all social media is: one big smelly junior high school
I’m a simple guy. If I see Claire Danes, I click
7:34 Fan Correction! "Exception that proves the rule" has been debunked as pure nonsense.
To me she will forever be Angela
It's cute that Conan thinks Ben Affleck was a child when he started late night television.
he was 20 years old; being 7 years off on an off-the-cuff example one thought of in a split second isn't really a huge disparity i would say.
Shout out moms who ?
Know the difference between two sons
And don't try to make them into something they're NOT. Let them be who they are! Now that's shout-out status! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
What's a "shout-out mom"?
I don't remember any past one week
How on earth do you remember these memories of childhood 😂
WHERE ARE SONA AND MATT?
LA.
You can listen to New Yorker actors talk
She's sofa king cool. In another plane of existence, we're a hella smoking couple.
I like her headband
Good decision really? Having an affair with married man while his wife is pregnant. Great. Wow
Girls were supposed to pretend they weren’t engaged in learning? I don’t know where a lot of these women get these ideas from. Maybe Claire wasn’t liked in school for a multitude of other reasons. School was difficult socially for most people. Teenagers growing into adults and trying to figure themselves out and the world around them. I’m sure it had very little to do with Claire being intelligent and a female.
I was bullied mercilessly for being smart and making excellent grades . It was considered “nerdy “. This is very common actually .
it's a well-established, particularly american phenomenon. for instance, it is addressed in 'persepolis' when the young satrapi character is verily confused over girls not being socially awarded for being academically astute, in this new country. really sad/frustrating, but totally prevalent.
Why can’t I spot what I know her from… Juliette maybe?
She was Juliette, yes.
She was in Baz Lurhman's "Romeo and Juliet" with Leonardo DiCaprio
pls put on some makeup
Why do adults obsess about their teens?
This interview was as exciting as watching paint dry!
I have the same feeling. She’s sharing so much info and being so open.. this should be riveting. But there’s something missing.. what is it? Pizazz? Is she speaking too slowly, too many “um’s” and too much detail in little things? Needs More dialogue with Conan like a back and forth convo and it’s too much about her right now even tho she’s the guest/interviewee? I can’t put my finger on it
@@h3artands0uLL i think it's actually vagueness. she's in big monologues of describing a ton of what's in her head but not giving examples that play upon the senses or festoon the imagination with actual story. it's okay, she's still a ton more fascinating than most.
Word to the wise, C-man: The next time you go to NYC, take Sona and Matt.
She looks unrecognizeable from when I have seen her in movies.
I agree.
She was never an attractive woman.
Wtf is junior high??
wow those meds are really helping her since she quit the cia.
✊❤️🩹🤷♀️
You know what I can't stand? A woman who sleeps with a guy who has a girlfriend 9 months pregnant.
He's the one who cheated on his pregnant girlfriend.
@@1029blue he is a dog too, and so is Claire.
What happened to conan getting guest he was genuinely interested in talking to? This sucks.
I’ve NEVER seen a celebrity actually use the word “verisimilitude” in a sentence. 😄 She’s a little pretentious, but that’s ok….
nah, not at all. it's just you live in a monosyllabic dumbed down country that bans books and awards academic mediocrity by junior high, and the people who actually care about choosing the best and most descriptive english meet the mockery that you're demonstrating and reinforcing here, so you call it pretentious. fugging sad, more like it.
She might not be a good looking woman, acts well though.
Well she did end up being a homewrecker, getting a pregnant woman abandoned, & she did get. Admission to yale cause her grandad was the dean.