With all the tech, engineering and skilled labor, it’s amazing these are not easier to use. Fun trivia : many chargers cannot be used to their max capacity due to the car’s ability to accept high charge rate and supply grid congestion.
I wouldn't lose sleep over it, the EV market is pretty much done, anyone that wanted to buy an EV already bought one and found out it's a terrible value proposition, so I'm going to guess we're going to see less charging stations into the future, not more. Hybrids are going to rule the roost for the foreseeable future.
The car and charging station decide the charge rate together, so don't worry about it. Also, the EVgo app (and others) list charging station details and their kW ratings. All EVgo chargers are 50, 100, or 350 kW. GM-branded ones are usually 350 kW for Hummer EVs and new Denali EVs. Most cars, like yours, max out at 75 kW charge rate. The car and station find the highest rate, then the car constantly adjusts how much charge it can take to avoid problems for the grid, station, and itself.
Labels don't work for EA. You still see Bolt, Kona and ID4 drivers for example charging on the 350's thinking it will charge faster than the 150. Some EV drivers just don't know what rate their EV can DC fast charge at. That comes down to user education at the dealer. Plus most EA 150's are actually 175's. Maybe EA and EVgo should put QR code labels on the chargers that say "find out how fast your EV can charge" and it lets them scan the code to look up the DCFC rate of their year/make/model EV. Also have this in their apps too. Honestly EA need to take the Tesla approach and have a DC buses between all their cabinets and have all the dispensers be labeled UP TO 350 KW and any EV can use any dispenser and get its max speed to help avoid this. Also this should help even the wear on the power modules some.
if the 350 is what was available when rhey arrived, there is no reason they shouldn't take it. There is no rule that you have to save the higher output stations for the people with higher input capable cars. If it can charge on that station, it is fine to use it.
I think maybe you have a fundamental, misunderstanding, how those things work. Yes, people do pull into chargers that have higher capacities in their vehicles but that’s because there’s only so many chargers. But regardless of the capacity of the charger, it matters only to the car because the car dictates the speed of the charge. Educate yourself, so you understand how these things work. As a Chevy bolt owner, I understand that you would prefer that I use a 50 kg a charger but if it’s out of order or nothing else is available I’m going to use the 350 kW charger and it works just the same.
(keep in mind this is a 60s video, so can't add all the context and nuance there is here) I'm completely fine if an EV only takes the charger that's available, that's generally not the issue. I often see vehicles with lower charging capabilities plug in to high powered stations, especially in the Midwest where there is lower utilization on chargers in general. And these chargers don't even have labels, so that is the real issue here. No way to tell which charger is the 50kW or 350kW without cross-chekcing with the EVgo app to see which one is which.
EVgo is awful, the 350kW one I use only gives my Model 3 a max output of 100kWh then shuts off after a couple minutes. Though I’ll admit, the smaller one next to it is really great. It gives me a max output of 75kWh (which isn’t too hard on the battery) and only charges me 22¢ a minute. Went from about 30% the other day to 80% and only paid under $7. It’s only 2 minutes from where I live and is pretty convenient, price wise and all. I try to only limit my fast charging to only once a week and take advantage of free slow charging whenever I can for the sake of the battery pack’s health.
Those Tesla chargers got me spoiled I don’t even look I just grab and stab then grab a bit lol
He could have used a sharpie to fix all that but he made a video to complain instead.
With all the tech, engineering and skilled labor, it’s amazing these are not easier to use.
Fun trivia : many chargers cannot be used to their max capacity due to the car’s ability to accept high charge rate and supply grid congestion.
They are very easy to use. Some people just make useless content because they are lazy.
I wouldn't lose sleep over it, the EV market is pretty much done, anyone that wanted to buy an EV already bought one and found out it's a terrible value proposition, so I'm going to guess we're going to see less charging stations into the future, not more. Hybrids are going to rule the roost for the foreseeable future.
The best advice is to take your EV to any other charging station then EVGo
The car and charging station decide the charge rate together, so don't worry about it. Also, the EVgo app (and others) list charging station details and their kW ratings. All EVgo chargers are 50, 100, or 350 kW. GM-branded ones are usually 350 kW for Hummer EVs and new Denali EVs. Most cars, like yours, max out at 75 kW charge rate. The car and station find the highest rate, then the car constantly adjusts how much charge it can take to avoid problems for the grid, station, and itself.
Labels don't work for EA. You still see Bolt, Kona and ID4 drivers for example charging on the 350's thinking it will charge faster than the 150. Some EV drivers just don't know what rate their EV can DC fast charge at. That comes down to user education at the dealer. Plus most EA 150's are actually 175's.
Maybe EA and EVgo should put QR code labels on the chargers that say "find out how fast your EV can charge" and it lets them scan the code to look up the DCFC rate of their year/make/model EV. Also have this in their apps too.
Honestly EA need to take the Tesla approach and have a DC buses between all their cabinets and have all the dispensers be labeled UP TO 350 KW and any EV can use any dispenser and get its max speed to help avoid this. Also this should help even the wear on the power modules some.
Chargeway educates drivers really well about this!
if the 350 is what was available when rhey arrived, there is no reason they shouldn't take it. There is no rule that you have to save the higher output stations for the people with higher input capable cars. If it can charge on that station, it is fine to use it.
Tesla truly makes life easier with charging
I think maybe you have a fundamental, misunderstanding, how those things work. Yes, people do pull into chargers that have higher capacities in their vehicles but that’s because there’s only so many chargers. But regardless of the capacity of the charger, it matters only to the car because the car dictates the speed of the charge. Educate yourself, so you understand how these things work. As a Chevy bolt owner, I understand that you would prefer that I use a 50 kg a charger but if it’s out of order or nothing else is available I’m going to use the 350 kW charger and it works just the same.
(keep in mind this is a 60s video, so can't add all the context and nuance there is here) I'm completely fine if an EV only takes the charger that's available, that's generally not the issue. I often see vehicles with lower charging capabilities plug in to high powered stations, especially in the Midwest where there is lower utilization on chargers in general. And these chargers don't even have labels, so that is the real issue here. No way to tell which charger is the 50kW or 350kW without cross-chekcing with the EVgo app to see which one is which.
I don’t know why Tesla are still using there own plugs in US? They changed to CCS in Europe 3 years ago & before that you used an adapter.
USA looks and feel better that’s why.
once again... only tesla knows how to do this correctly
EVgo is awful, the 350kW one I use only gives my Model 3 a max output of 100kWh then shuts off after a couple minutes. Though I’ll admit, the smaller one next to it is really great. It gives me a max output of 75kWh (which isn’t too hard on the battery) and only charges me 22¢ a minute. Went from about 30% the other day to 80% and only paid under $7. It’s only 2 minutes from where I live and is pretty convenient, price wise and all. I try to only limit my fast charging to only once a week and take advantage of free slow charging whenever I can for the sake of the battery pack’s health.
What tools (apps) do you use to find free chargers?
Marketing: Putting the Kilowatt Rating in large letters makes it look complicated
Engineering: 🤬
Evgo is garbage theirachins constantly break down mid charge
Sad. EVgo is cool for giving each charger a name plus including the Tesla NACS plug (not a makeshift one I thought)
😂😂😂
You should’ve labeled it
Who needs a label?! Trial n error that shit, man!💪🏾
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You go, boy. Save that planet!!!
Oh the humanity! How do you make it. You are so brave.
ALSO why so many different Plugs ... CCS that's the thing 👍
I will never have to go thru that charging crap .
Good for you
You say that now….be careful about fortune telling-it’s a cognitive distortion.