PART 2, Brian Higgins: Karen Read's "Third Party Culprit" Evidence - Lawyer LIVE
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- Did Karen Read murder her boyfriend John O’Keefe -- or did someone else do it? Tonight we will look at Karen Read's claim that someone else murdered John. We'll discuss what third party culprit evidence is and what was presented related to Brian Higgins.
John O’Keefe was found dead in Canton, Massachusetts, in the front yard of Boston police officer Brian Albert. Prosecutors say his girlfriend Karen Read dropped him off at a party at Albert’s house and then hit him with her car.
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His messages with the others were absolutely relevant and he knew it.
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It sometimes feels like they’re talking about high school students and not grown adults in this case.
Higgins destroying his phone happened just before the court order to preserve it. Could he have gotten a head's up from someone?
Proctor
@@colleenfletcher2550
Prior to the trial, I thought that the conspiracy stuff was... exactly that.
After being a trial-watcher for decades, this is the first time defense didn't just bring smoke and mirrors for 3rd party culprit.
Yes he and Brian Albert were told
Morrisey told them and or warned them all.
@@tiabiamama I can just about promise you that Higgins and Albert destroyed those phones to make sure they didn’t end up like Proctor. It may look really really sus, but it was better than nationwide shame and disgust. I personally believe Higgins had more means, motive, and opportunity than Karen ever did. I have so much I would like to say, not enough space.
Brand new to this case. Just started watching about it the other day.
From all of the info I've gathered, I have one question: wtf was wrong with that jury? This woman doesn't even have a motive for killing her boyfriend.
There was no marriage, no life insurance policy, no kids to fight over custody...you're not going to murder your boyfriend because you had an argument ffs.
But not just that...the evidence of this framing and coverup is so clear.
I will never understand how this jury hung. What a travesty.
40:03 this goes both ways, why would Karen kill her police officer boyfriend when she’s expected to be somewhere and that somewhere is the home of another police officer? Why would she leave his body on the front lawn of another police officer where she has to know there’s another police officer living on the same street!? It makes more sense that Brian Albert would leave him on his own front lawn because he is a cop and no one would ever think a cop would be stupid enough to do that! Clearly though; someone did this to John and left his body on the front lawn of a police officers house!
It seems highly unlikely that Higgins would be going to the Canton PD to "move vehicles" &/or "do administrative work" after drinking whiskey for the better part of 12 hours that day into evening, & into early next morning?! Maybe longer than 12 hrs, considering they'd been to a wake/funeral out of town, then stopped for more drinks (and food) around dinnertime, then continued drinking booze on into the night at several more bars & residences~hillside, McCarthy's, Waterfall, Albert's house & his own house. That is a boat load of alcohol, & I don't care how well a guy holds his booze, Higgins was absolutely three sheets to the wind by the time he left the Albert's.
My point is, something really unusual & out of the ordinary would have had to happen for him to go there that drunk~ wonder what the real reason was? First off, BEYOND against policy to be carrying weapons, driving police vehicles, & entering police facilities while under the influence like that~ no bueno. In his drunken mind, something was pretty darn important to prompt him to risk it like that...or, it was just more bad booze decision making. I suppose that could be it, but I doubt it. Imho, he was switching out his own personal vehicles, and/or items within one of them.
I love how all of them say KR drank soooo much...yet seven whiskey straight doesn't seem like much😂
None of it makes sense because that's not what happened.
@@jodievukmir3187I don't think she drank as much as they claim when you consider her health issues. If I had drank that much I would be deciding which to do first, puke or poop.
Also it took him 30mins to 1hr to get to the station after he left, by his own testimony. The journey should have been 5mins tops, according to Buckenic's testimony. What was he doing that whole time?
Was he so drunk that he drove round and round before he could find the station? If so, then as you said, why would he go and move vehicles in that state.
The conspiracy about the Alberts and parties at the house existed long before the trial did! TB and company have been screaming it for years. If I was one of the people in that home like Brian Higgins or one of the Alberts I would do anything to prove my innocence! I’d give my phone straight to the cops and let them have at it if I had nothing to hide and wanted to clear my name! The fact that they got rid of their phones and not just got rid of, but destroyed them completely really makes you side eye them! What else did he have to hide?
If he had to get rid of the telephone number all he had to do was go to his provider and ask them to give him a new number! Problem solved! Completely destroying a phone and SIM card makes no sense in that regard.
Why didnt they hide johns body?
A lonely guy apparently, perhaps some porn, Onlyfans messages etc.
@@ritaeichler2066 well if you believe Lucky, the snow plow driver, they must have for a bit?
Additionally no one saw his Jeep, except those in the house, not even Ryan Nagle who arrived before Higgins claimed to have left. We also know the time he said he left between 00:30 and 01:00, JO would have been there. He also should have made it to the station in 5mins, but it took him 30mins to 1hr to get back to the station.
So many things are wrong with their own testimony. It raises too many questions and when you add them all together, it becomes difficult to fully ignore defense theory, no matter how ridiculous they may seem.
I believe John was renting Higgins on the night he died, it's why I think Karen did not go inside because she knew John was going to confront Higgins,
The FBI should be questioning the fbi agent who helped Higgins extract the messages from his phone.
I'm sure they are!
I'm sure they're already on it.
From what I’ve heard on this channel and others, there is plenty of reasonable doubt.
The ME and 2 Feds experts said injuries weren’t consistent with being hit by a vehicle. That is what changed my mind.
You’re missing the point with Brian Higgins the only messages he actually turned over was messages. He knew the defense would have. He knew they would have Karen‘s messages and he knew they would have John’s messages. Other than that everything was destroyed. He only kept what he knew they would getfrom the other side
Very good point!
You may understand something I am confused about, so help me out please... Did he turn over those messages? Or did he pull them off his phone to hide them? Meaning, does the FBI "machine" keep or destroy the messages they pull off?
@@juliao1255he used Federal tech and hardware with another fed to remove the messages with John and Karen. He turned those messages over.
Then he destroyed the SIM card and phone and threw them away in two separate dumpsters on a military base.
That’s exactly what she said. Around 24:00
100% he knew exactly what he was doing. The likes of Higgins and the Alberts think they’re very smart , clearly from the trial you can see they’re not smart at all
Why would Higgins "plow the Albert's driveway" if there was only a light dusting of powder that hadn't built up yet?
Was Higgins trying to lay out a narrative to explain something just in case an eyewitness comes along to say that he saw Higgins drive up on the driveway some time that evening with his snow-plow?
Maybe had blood on it
To cover up scuffle marks in the already landing snow?
My theory is when Lucky came forward and was interviewed by FBI and said he saw a ford edge, they changed story to say Higgins Jeep parked in front to discredit him and why Lally asked him if knew difference.
@BangsOrNoBangs Good point! Seems like the entire Commonwealth's case was relying on altering every source of electronic data from phones to videos. Insisting that we do not see dog bites. And now discrediting a sober eye witness.
How did that not raise red flags for everyone following this case?
I was confused by that as well. It was said there was only a dusting. What in the world did he plow then? Makes no sense.
Colin told the prosecutor in redirect that he was a sophomore when he made the threats, but AJ pointed out on recross that he'd previously testified that he was a junior or senior.
As I remember it, it was one of the Alberts who traded in their phone in for an upgrade the day before getting the letter telling him to retain it. Brian Higgins got rid of his phone before he received notification that he was allowed to - he never got that notification, and he said he'd heard that there'd been a ruling and so he got rid of it.
Bunch of crooked Keystone cops.
@@bbrcummins1984 Really blatant using text messages busted Should’ve ditched the phones might have got away with it
Yes
Really not I know these people
@@pupsymilaThere’s something fishy. These people are hiding something.
There is no reason to sell Karen as an archangel just because she didn't hit John with her car. People need permission to think she is a jerk and that she is not guilty of these charges at the same time.
I agree. She doesn't have to be likeable to be innocent.
she would have it some much easier if she just changed her attitude. and say i miss john and the kids and the good times we had.
She’s both a jerk and guilty and a lot more.
Well said
She did it ! Why did she say she’s looking for John she left him at the bar at first didn’t know she was seen at the house
Remember what my TX SO Sgt screamed at me, "🤬COPS DON'T BURN EACH OTHER!"
Even scummy cops ?
@@PostalWorker14especially the scummy ones
@@texasrefugee7888 Because no one likes them but themselves
@@3_up_moon Scummy boss at Post Office had to defend lawsuit against him with own money No cop immunity
I wonder if the 22 second call got answered because Brian answered it while half asleep and didn't really know what he was doing. Hence not remembering any calls.
Well I think his undercover days are over now......😂 From Holland 🇳🇱
I think it’s rather telling when Brian Higgins goes out of his way to VOLUNTARILY and SELECTIVELY produce evidence from his phone he knew would be damaging to Karen Read, BUT when the preservation order comes down suddenly there’s no phone to preserve anymore. This is a guy who works in law enforcement and knows the system. He’s not operating in ignorance, and I vehemently disagree with giving either him or Brian Albert the benefit of the doubt here. It’s not believable to me in both the timing and manner of how their phones disappeared in relation to the preservation order. I think based on the circumstances it’s far easier to believe they were not only tipped off but also thought they had a need to dispose of their phones due to something directly connected to the case and/or something directly related to their conduct as members of law enforcement.
I think it’s very possible here that for some of the Commonwealth’s witnesses perjury may actually apply. We know for a fact Michael Proctor perjured himself when he testified on the stand that he had no connection to the Alberts, only to find out on cross-examination that he not only knew them but also employed one of them as a babysitter. That, and the Alberts openly discussed bribing Proctor for his handling of the investigation. Jen McCabe couldn’t or wouldn’t willingly answer a single question on cross without demanding to see a copy of her witness statement first, as if, like Trooper Paul, she couldn’t answer anything without a coaching aid or a leading question. Not a good look for the closest thing the Commonwealth had in terms of an eyewitness. Details like these lead me to believe Jackson more than these witnesses.
Also, I have butt dialed before and have been butt dialed. It requires a pretty large leap of faith to believe these phone calls were butt dials. I think an application of Occam’s razor gets us to the truth on this matter.
In the letter announcing them removing Proctor it is clear that he was being looked into because of his testimony in court and was not being investigated before that.
He said someone got his number through “open source” and if true, wouldn’t there be a possibility they could get his new number in the same way? Destroying the SIM and ridding the phone seems so drastic and unnecessary - unless you wanted to ensure data stored on the device itself wouldn’t be forensically recovered.
Why not just call your carrier and have them assign you a new phone number?
This is wild.
💯 Guess I bought into the 'poor guy had no life' and/or 'assassins were out to get me' excuse(s) for why he tossed it, not fully realizing how suspicious it was.
I've been trying - because Lee brings it out in folks, darn it - to see both sides, but there's still reasonable doubt - even sans third-party issues.
You don’t need to throw out your phone to get a new phone number.
But he could have kept his handset. I didn’t even seem to transfer my phone numbers and I’d save them on the sim. So he didn’t have to throw away his phone .
Didn't hear you mention..but Brian Higgins AND Brian Albert both got rid of their phones. SAME DAY ,day before they were court ordered to preserve them.seems likely someone gave them a heads up
Thanks for your explanations😊
Such great information!
@mama pinks thank you for the closed captioning. I really like this channel. Now I can understand what is going on when it's hard for me to hear. 👍🙃
Love having L. L break this down. Great information and so interesting
Lawyer Lee - I just love your channel and really appreciate your perspective. I wonder, if the “Not Guilty” language was changed to something like “Not Proven” might that make a difference in a case like this? I would love to know your thoughts on that. Thanks for a great channel and a great hang out!! And ❤ to you and your family.
This scenario seems more plausible than a hit n run murder. So glad I found this channel. This is the information I've been seeking out. Excellent job ❤😊!!! New fan .
Butt dials!!!😅😂
Butt answers, and butt conversations
Hello Lee! Love to you ❤
Catching replay
Love your show! You make my day!! ❤
Well, I love this channel now. All legal analysis have a diff perspective (i watch all the Attys) but i have learned much more and gotten much better understanding from this channel. So Higgins arrived bf there was 1/2 inch of snow and strange he would truly drop his heavy metal plow to scrape up their driveway ....
Because Lawyer lee does it step by step.
I want to know who had information about the coming subpoena for Brian Albert's and Brian Higgin's phones, and WHO LEAKED IT TO THEM THE DAY BEFORE? The whole investigation and prosecution is sketch!
This is really good. I am sharing!!!
Still don’t understand why she started flirting and texting Higgins Must not have been a true person to John Not what she appears to be
Alcohol does funny things to people sometimes, acting without thinking
@@golflre7179 The calls, messages and even a visit Karen made to Higgins house did not happen in one day, she had a plan, but I guess you are right, she is an alcoholic.
@@ficalli4743 Not what I meant, but see your point. Men and alcohol often lead to violent ends. Just like what happened in that house.
I think it was retaliation for John cheating on her.
@@golflre7179 Alcoholic women also kill.
I love your channel!!😊
I'm curious about the bruising on John's hand, if he had no pulse and wasn't breathing and had been there since 12.30...how could his hand bruise? All blood flow would cease. So it couldn't be from cannulation. The last place to try would be the hand because a) the patient was hypothermia, so there would be no blood flow or very little to the extremities. There first thing they'd do is put in a central line to get vital drugs to his heart. So what caused the bruising to his hand. Interesting that it just happens to be his injured arm.
He was in the house until 3 to 5:00 in the morning. Then his body was placed on the lawn......
I have read BH is in re-hab..what went on with the Jury..we need to know the split..did they actually believe the lead investigator MP..did they miss all the things he didnt do..would they not at least find that to be more than suspect..wonder what they are thinking now when they can read everything?
Really appreciate your perspective! 😊👍
Lee pls point out: Its not important that he lost photos etc on his phone. No one mentions that he threw it away ON A MILITARY BASE where as a law enforcement officer HE KNEW the local and state police wouldnt be able to search federal property.
I have decided that the McAlberts don’t care about John, they care about their image. If they all loved him so much then why did they let either of them drive after drinking together at the bar. Knowing just about everyone there was well above the limit. Bravo McAlberts, put it all on “the girl”
Alberts, and McCabes
I just bundle them together and call them the McMorons!
That's because it is all on the girl
I think JM's 911 call sums it up. It is very hard to believe it was her friend on the lawn when she made that call. 😢
You ppl are delusional.
My theory is…John O’Keefe was at the house waiting for the Alberts to arrive. Brian Higgins drove up in his jeep with the plow and O’Keefe confronted him about his interest in Karen. They got into a fight and Higgins was angry, he managed to cause John to become unconscious he then moved him with the plow and covered up his body. The injuries would be consistent with that scenario.
That is the only way I can make this compute in my mind
I love your methodical approaches to cases and the clear, well organized visuals. I wonder if you'd consider doing a breakdown of the ARCCA testimony, or at least highlight in more detail the points you thought were weak or omitted. I think it would be extremely helpful to hear a walk through of at least some key selections of from an intelligent non-hostile person who still has questions about it. I heard the answer you gave in the moment, but it almost seemed to imply burden shifting which I'm sure is not what you intended,. Thanks!
I hope I never come across Jackson in an L.A. court.
Lee~ another channel here on RUclips, "Truth Revealed" has some very interesting analyses/theories on this case, specifically Higgins potential involvement. He is a former federal investigator/interrogator I believe. He has spent a significant amount of time on the witness testimony, especially the language & word usage from each of them. I think you might find it interesting.
I saw him too and it was very interesting!
I noticed that Brian Albert, for the most part, doesn't look at Alan Jackson's closing rather fidgets...mmm...
Thank you 🙏 for helping us understand, YOU ARE AWESOME 🤩💪⭐️💐💝
Appreciate your clear and concise objective breakdowns and education about the law.
I still can't believe there are idiots on the jury who voted guilty after this.
After weeks of a trial where so much corruption would be revealed, why don't we ask THE question?
Did they corrupt the jury too?
I'm starting to think... Of course they did! They did corruption right in front of us IN THE TRIAL. Inverted video etc etc. Why wouldn't they plant a juror?
NOTHING ELSE MAKES SENSE
That is the right word for sure. With what the prosecution did between the undisclosed inverted video and Lally's closingt statement "mistake" misrepresenting the evidence I would not put it past them to get someone on the jury to vote guilty.
Sadly, I CAN believe there were idiots who thought the case was actually PROVED beyond a reasonable doubt. This is why I don't think much of our legal system. Anyone who thought the case was PROVED is just not very smart. I think one or two of the jurors took a dislike to Karen for some reason and decided that no matter what she was guilty. They probably just decided that they "felt" like she was guilty and therefore just ignored the lack of evidence to prove it. And if it was 10 "guilty" then there were TEN IDIOTS!
Ten voted to convict. FKR cult antics were a waste of time. Keep wearing pink and sell stuff at the FKR flea market at the court house 😂
@@Barb417this has not been verified. If there are 10 jurors who wanted to vote guilty then one of them will speak up.
Here on the replay of your live: 19:55 in... Perry Mason Moment!
KR being lovey dovey with john and ignoring BH. In my opinion was intended to tease BH
We also only have his side of kiss story.
That is the most unreasonable excuse for murder Give me a break.
Thanks!
One question I have is did both Brian Highens and Brian Albert get rid of their phones on the same day?
😂 How could this EVER be beyond a reasonable doubt?
This whole 'romantic kiss' leading Brian Higgins on just doesn't convince me. I might be convinced if BH was 14, but he's a divorced man in his 40s (at least). If he's so pathetic that he would base a vendetta around a bit of a flirtation then I think he's probably batty enough to set the person who slighted him up to take the fall.
At this point, the only person whose story I find believable is Ms Read. With one exception....why did she tell Paul O'Keefe's wife "let’s just remember the bad times and I'll never see you again" - or words close to this. That's a bit squirrelly. Why would she tell a woman she has been friends with to 'just remember the bad times"?
Re the ARCA report. Didn't the Judge limit what they could testify on? Judge Cannone didn't want to allow it in in the first place. Then recanted but with provisons, just as she did the with the Dr who testified about the dog bites - despite her being eminently qualified to testify on all the medical evidence.
Because she’d just been traumatized and realized being around them would be a constant reminder of what happened? I don’t know but I don’t judge people who are likely to be having a trauma response.
Good reply
Hi, Lawyer Lee, have you seen videos by Sergio Dinaro, Truth Revealed? I don't know how good his credentials are-his analysis and opinions seemed to make a lot of sense to me, something finally. And especially explaining what happened AND that John O'Keefe could have been injured without ever getting into the house(not by KR though).
I'm not sure if the timeline is perfect, maybe it's actually better?
I think it makes more meaning of Higgins actions than anything else I've seen.
Hi SLSinclair… I’ve watched that guy too and he has some very interesting points. He seems to me to be a little TOO sure in his opinions for me to go 100% his way. But definitely another interesting piece to try to figure out this very confusing puzzle!
Can you tell me which video that is? I’ve watched many of his videos but don’t recall one in where he discusses this. Not sure about his exact credentials but he does explain in one of his videos. I forgot which one it is now but he did some type of analysis in law enforcement.
Oh and I have also thought there is a possibility that JO was injured by another party prior to entering the house that wasn’t Karen. Who it was, I’m not sure! I’d love a solid timeline written out of everyone who was at the house and when they arrived. How do we know there wasn’t someone following them or another drunk driver? Still I don’t believe John was hit by any car. 3 witnesses including the ME and 2 FBI guys said that his injuries are not consistent with being struck by a vehicle. That is pretty powerful
Lawyer Lee or anyone doing the timeline. Alan Jackson point out a time in the waterfall vidr at 11:58 pm.
It looks like Higgins is challenging John OK to a fight.
Thank you all for the timeline. Great video
Let’s move on to next trial..and I have some ideas as a juror will comprehend ❤️
Lol. His explanation makes no sense. My dad has basically nothing on his phone, he still wants to transfer whatever he has. Also doesn't apple backup photos like Google does? Who would give up their account for no reason, that's where all the stuff you've bought is.
Probably your father will not have his phone scrutinized over open tv for everybody to see like they did with Proctor's private phone.
He didnt turn his phone over because it would have given GPS info on exactly where he was..and how he did it
You dont have to throw away your phone to get a NEW phone number as HIGGINS said in his testimony as the reason for getting rid of it. He really thinks we are that stupid 🥴😵💫
Tthis man does not lie well
I had to back it up because I didn’t hear the “Hi y’all”
The RUclips channel Brother Counsel would love to have a conversation with a RUclips Lawyer with a different view of guilt than most.
You are reasonable and Brother Counsel is reasonable.
I'd love to hear a conversation between two lawyers who are respectful with opposing opinions on Karen Read.
I hope you will consider this, because others as well as me need a respectful conversation with two people who know the law and have opposing views.
Thanks for your consideration.
Saw his video invitation after reading your post: hope he has 'takers'. Almost a mock retrial. Win/win for law lovers.
Higgins has aDSS top secret security clearance suspended
“Say it with me” do you get the feeling AJ thinks he’s in Ally McBeal.
??? Lee , please have few segments reviewing just the prosecution (DIRECT exam) case of each & every item discovered at crime scene with the exhibits shown ..all of LE & EMS personell direct testimony regarding what they saw on scene (without KR defense team cross) . Cant seem to find the clips anywhere.
Hi Lee,is it possible that a hse-search at:No 34:Alberts(maybe the new)owner might collaborate??
I learn from this site , thankyou I come from canton and gave to live this and it’s very divided in this town with the not guilty making all the noise
We're you aware that some itizens in Canton asked Brian Albert to resign
Have I been convinced beyond reasonable doubt that Higgins did it? Of course not. This wasn't the venue for that. And he might never face consequences either, even if he did do it.
But it certainly left me thinking that there was no way the house shouldn't have been entered and searched.
Absolutely. Anyone else's house would have been investigated under same circumstances.
There was no reason to do that because: a. John was found covered with 4-6 inch of snow, but under his body no snow with pcs of glass & tailight on him , his shoe ,phone found around the scene which indicated the incident occured outside b4 snow started sticking.
B. Everyone in & out of that house including Karen said they did not see John enter or in the house. I think they did prove he did not enter the house with his cell phone lockingdown @ 12:35 am at the location he was found. Prosecution on retrial should focus on that fact ,which would debunk all third party claims.
@@ritaeichler2066 His phone was found under his body. I'm curious if it was deliberately placed there to muffle all the incoming phone calls (audible rings) from Karen.
@nottthereyet4872 but she didn't hit him with her car 😅
@@ritaeichler2066 An altercation btw Higgins and O'Keefe could have happened immediately outside after Karen left. Prompting Higgins to "plow" in an effort to remove any signs of a scuffle.
Higgins is so involved with this
The 'joke snow plowing' is not a thing in New England. (Born and raised in Massahusetts--still here! :) It's funny you mentioned it, because 'as' a New Englander, when he added that tidbit to his answer, it made me...🤔It's suspect when someone adds unnecessary info to a simple question.
Why would he snow-plow the driveway before any snow had accumulated?
@@stugrant01 He would't have, which is why his mention of it is odd.
Brian didn't stay long because they didn't have his fav drink and to ask John to come over was odd..
What? An Irish household without Irish Whiskey? If that's not sus on its own, LOL.
I don't understand why the peosecution didn't have an experiment on what would a car backing at 25 miles an hour would do a human skull?
I’ve ordered pizza 🍕 with more enthusiasm than the prosecutor argued this case; his passion was sorely lacking, and I’d be surprised if he spearheaded a re-trial. 😉
Next time, they need to include the backyard as a potential crime scene. That corner of the backyard behind the gate by the drive (the third gate, that was never mentioned) was not visible to people in the house. It eliminates the need for a broad conspiracy.
There's video of Higgins giving Officer O'Keefe the finger at the Waterfall.
No, there is not.
@@ficalli4743There absolutely is video of that.
She started flirting with him 2 weeks before she ran over good setup in front a cops out
Where does he live that there’s no trash pick up
You’re so good!……👏👏👏🇨🇦👋🏼
Brian Albert testified that Higgins left at 1:30 am and that he never saw where he was parked.
Ashleigh Banfield said on her show that the jury was split 6-6 on thw two lesser charges on Karen Read trial - Mimi-
I think BH was covertly asking JOK if he was going to the Alberts because he wanted an opportunity to hook up with KR again. He didn't care about JOK going there, he cared about KR going there. Its ridiculous to believe BH would kill JOK because he wanted KR. KR showed interest in BH first, not the other way around. There's easier ways to get the girl then murdering the bf, esp if the girl has already initiated interest
An accident while fighting is plausible.
Siigh..🙄How many x's did some of these guys have to practice their ridiculous stories w/out laughing all the way through? Gimme a break. After watching Albert's again...when he's telling the "JOK vs Albert son going thru yard" tale, I think he includes at least three times that it was youngest son, not Colin. Yeah..we caught that the first time, pal. You can almost hear the planning convos that went into each ridiculous statement.
Ya know, just for the sake of argument here....and I'm in the camp of JOK getting sucker-punched by Collin (and more, after seeing his knuckles...) - what would've been so awful about a fight breaking out and calling ambulance? Seriously?? That's a problem you can deal with, even if people really, really lost their tempers... It'd be NOTHING compared to this freaking mess...
I told you Higgins was quilty.
He inserted himself in the investigation from day 1 it's what they teach us
The call from Higgins to O'Keefe is in the timeline at or around 12:30.
It seems clear to me that something happened to John in that house. The testimonies of people at the home were pretty bad in my opinion. There is so much evidence that something else occurred. And a cover up for sure. I think that Karen yelled that she hit John was because her brain was in panic and trying to come to a logical explanation. She found him where she left him. So, those were the facts as she saw them at that moment. Imagine this story without all of the police shenanigans. That's a different one. What are the people who think she's guilty doing with the shenanigans- in their minds.
Perry Mason trophy for the Defense! 🏆 Reasonable doubt obviously.
Not one of them.slept.that night....they were all setting up time line and defense...storyline
I would hand over my phone if asked but if I had a choice, I wouldn’t want to go without my phone.
I still don’t see how to accept a gift membership
I would love to become a member but I am retired and on a very very limited income. Thank you Lawyer Lee for how well you are able to help me understand so much. In my next life, I think I will be a lawyer instead of a nurse since I would like to see try being something different
All thanks to you
PS: I wish RUclips would notify me when you go live
I have it set correctly
I had my grandson check it
??? Why didn't they check the dumpster on the base
What time was the "hos long to unalive in the snow" search?
The first search was allegedly at 2:27 am.
@@sara_387 Roughly the same time as the "Butt-Dials?"
Will we be crucifying the defense witnesses until the retrial?
What is your field of practice? Where are you licensed? I'm in North Carolina. I would love to have you as my attorney for business contracts and negotiating proposals.
Her contact info is in the 'about' section for her channel. ✨️