Saints Row 4 - The Game That RUINED The Series
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This didn’t age well. This game definitely didn’t ruin the series.
It definitely did. And has been ruined since 3, te reboot is just beating a dead horse
@@swagvegito2592 3 ruined, 4 revived it a bit, gat out of hell ruined it again
@@swagvegito2592 I think 3 ruined the franchise more then 4. Since 4 is a better continuation of 3
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 We could easily pass off Saints Row 4 GOH as a rejected comic book series script written by Matt Miller and Pierce Washington.
Saints Row 3 was alright, just too over the top made it boring.
Former SR4 haters after SR reboot: "Perhaps we have treated you too harshly."
SR4: You could not live with your own failure, and where did that bring you? Back to me
They both suck
SR reboot is worthy, SR4 still sucking. This is coming from someone who has played them all.
@Probable improbability Noted, bud.
@@Bandzinwallet666 Yeah the gaming community has become....bitchy and whiny as of late. I may be a gamer but even I know games aren't worth crying over, I have more important things to worry about than some damn pixels. -_-
I don't think 4 ruined the series, but it definitely jumped the shark.
Gat Outta Hell ruined the series. And what I'm hearing, the reboot just might have killed the franchise.
third on ruined it, 4th one is actually good
sheesh i had a complete blast playing saints row 2 3 and 4 but gat out of hell NAW saints row reboot is kinda good but not good at the same time
@@BigSmoke-qu6it SR Reboot is just okay. Not nearly as bad as everyone tries to says it is but not amazing… definitely don’t think it killed the franchise
@@playboikash8641 please tell me why sr3 has better gameplay and storyline and villain, i know the first thing you'd say is because it doesnt have aliens, but that has nothing to do with how the game is played or how better written the story is so please tell me
Nah the 4th one still did…
fun fact: the whole "time travel" thing he just glossed over, it's the canon ending. the saints *literally* went through time and stole a bunch of shit and fucked with a bunch of historical events.
Yeah. Why I take what he says with a grain of salt. His bias is very clear
I think the REAL reason why the series was ruined is because of the people saying it was a "GTA RIPOFF" and volition listen to them.
Yeah. Saints Row is it's own thing and shouldn't care so much about GTA. Saints Row 3 may have been GTA's biggest competition at the time, and it's a shame that the series after that kinda stopped..
The first one was most definitely a GTA clone. The others are fine. 3 is just plain bad, not funny, not entertaining to play, nothing. 4 refined what 3 was trying to do.
@@DragoonCenten I'm inclined to disagree. Everyone has something in GTA type of games for them. For me it's vehicles and traversing the map during playthrough. While I favor SR2 over every other game in the series, I absolutely HATED 4 after 3 for how superpower mechanicss literally rendered vehicles useless. They could have just made them unusable alltogether of left like 4 of them for scenery akin to Gat Out of Hell. Could have just called the game Prototype 3 or something.
@@sorokabeloboka8818Bruh you play a game about shooting and blowing shit up for cars? If they got rid of vehicles altogether that still would have been a complaint from guys like you so there is no way to win, even if vehicles are obsolete because of super speed they still have some interesting ones, you could really just use them if you wanted to. I know when I got bored I started driving.
Visible AIDS being an open world crime game doesn’t make it a GTA clone. It did a lot of shit before gta did and make it better
The fourth game was intended to be a dlc? That actually makes a lot of sense.
Had S4 been just a DLC, I think the sense of power progression would have been better.
It definitely overstayed it's welcome. I had a ton of fun with it until I realized it was beginning to drag on and I wanted it to end.
Yes it makes sense. I always said when Saints Row 4 were a Dlc or a game with a different title it would be a perfect game.
I believe the DLC is the spin-off mission Enter the Dominatrix. The game itself was a developed idea from that DLC.
@The angel born in hell..Gogeta Keywords: From time to time.
When the game is about doing stuff 100% of the time, you quickly get burned out.
There's a mission where you play the dlc to be in sr IV it was pretty cool honestly, game didn't save though and lost 4 hrs of playtime
After playing the new saints row game, I've officially grown to appreciate saints row four including Gat out of hell. They may be ridiculous and over the top and they may seem like they "ruined" the series in a certain way but at least they're playable, interesting, really fun, and not full of annoying bugs, from what I've experienced. I love every saints row game now excluding the new one which deserves to be deleted 💀
Thing is, if it wasn't for Saints Row 4 going so overboard, we wouldn't have had a need for a reboot. SR4 broke what little meaning the SR universe had preventing any further progression. Hence the reboot.
Edit: Only thing I think they couldve done was probably pull the whole, "it was all dream" script.
@@Athasin There's no fucking way SR4 had anything to do with the game we got now, The last saints game before this one could have been a 10/10 masterpiece gangster crime drama and this game would have still turned out the way it did.
Their tonal shift proves that, they want a sanitized, non-offensive, how-do-you-do fellow gen Z'er hipster latte drinking characters with piss-poor developmental skill that hasn't aged since 2012, and in some ways gotten worse.
Sociopolitical climate has drastically changed in the last 10 years, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this same thing happens to GTA6
@@fallis07 "The last saints game before this one could have been a 10/10 masterpiece gangster crime drama and this game would have still turned out the way it did."
If the last game was a 10/10 gangster masterpiece there would have been no need for a reboot. So no, this game wouldn't have turned out the way it did if SR4 hadn't been what it was.
@@Athasin Just because there would have been no need for a reboot if that happened doesnt mean there still wouldn't have been one. It's clear the current devs for the game are ashamed by the tone of the series from before, and wanted to do their liberal gangster fantasy game. You clearly arent plugged in enough if you think a lack of success is what caused this thematic turn.
Also you dont need to quote my entire message when you directly @ reply to my msg right after.
@@Athasin They could have done time travel and started with some Terminator references while rebooting the series to change how things turned out, possibly fucking up the timeline. What would happen if you saved Lin and she got with Donnie? What would happen if you saved Carlos and watched him grow? Saving Aisha and seeing her with Johhny. Saving Kiki and having both the twins by your side? There is so much they could have done. Not that it would have been a masterpiece, but hell the new game shows how little creativity they have. They wanted to make a new game and then used Saints row as a skin, end of story. Also, do keep in mind the new game was made by a mostly new team. With the secret ending they left a lot on the table and did not need a full reboot, if we can even call it that.
compared to the new game this one was a fucking masterpiece
Even though I love this game, mainly because it's my first Saints Row game, I kinda understand why some wouldn't. Maybe not fully, but I respect those who don't agree with the direction this game went; especially from the first two in the series.
No it isn’t
Ironically enough, GTA's now taking heat for emulating both Saints Row's zaniness and the fantastic super-criminal-slash-spy caper premise of Fast & Furious.
Primarily for GTA Online, not within GTA 5's campaign.
@@nybxcrotona Since San Andreas GTA has been filled with fast n furious references. It’s GTA, fools.
@@DevilDaRebel
Sure but we never had cars with parachutes or speed racer cars or the batmobile. Makes you wonder what they are gonna do in the next gta if they even do it. Keep all the fantastical bull shit or cut it out and have a normal campaign and a crazy ass online?
@@nybxcrotona the campaign is irrelevant Since gta online is cuckstar cash cow
@@Kuru20134 How is it irrelevant?
The later heists, vehicles, and missions is what made GTA Online look like Saints Row. That complaint doesn't exist for 5, nor did it ever for 4 and its DLCs.
Yes it's the cash cow, but you don't see the main campaign for GTA games go that route that Saint's Row did. Heck, even RDR2 is incredibly toned down.
The fact that you used a car at all after the intro makes this even funnier because you can listen to the radio without the car at anytime playing the game.
I didn't find out until about a year after having the game they updated customization for the vehicles as they were so pointless to use
@@princessnovainacottage3326 true but I still used the shit out of that bar stall car thing
@@princessnovainacottage3326 if you can still do the “customize any vehicle “ glitch then it’s worth while because of the possibilities
now that the latest SR got released, I think pretty much everyone can all agree now SR4 is greatly underrated.
SR4 was so much fun, I really don't understand the hate it gets. People act like SR2 was a super serious game, but it was plenty goofy and over the top, not as much as 4 obviously but it wasn't a serious game. I enjoyed both of them for what they were.
I don't know, I guess making my character look like Miku Hatsune, flying around the city while listening to EDM and using the dubstep gun on everything in my path was pure fun for me.
I know that SR4 gets a lot of shit, and I’m not expecting any different here, but I can’t lie when I say that I adore the absolutely INSANE acid trip that is this fucking game
Terrible saints row game, but still a great game. If they released this as non canon i think it would be more popular
@@TheLoverOfYourMother1 Or a DLC of The Third
Honestly, would've been better if they released as a spin-off like gangsters in space or something like that.
@@doctordecipher7912 I used to contend that, but after watching this, I can see why people feel that way. 2 and 3 were pretty good at staying grounded while being absolutely insane, although I’d say 3 was more on the trippy side.
I am the same way. I can acknowledge a lot of the problems with the game, but I would be lying if I said that I don't like the game.
Can i admit something? I actually like Saints Row 4
For the love of God stop replying to this comment I beg you
@Saraph yeah
same tbh
I’ll never understand the hate. Ever. It seemed like the perfect transitional step from SR1’s po-faced seriousness to 3’s gradual silliness.
It didn’t give a fuck. It was a sandbox with all the cheats enabled because the devs knew they’re the most fun part of a sandbox. It made the game stand out in a crowded genre and I admired how audacious it was.
I played most of the game in co-op mode. Was a lot of fun
Same. I still play it time to time when im bored.
I must admit, I love How The Saints Saved Christmas.
Same. I just wished they could've made one for Halloween.
@@zombiewerewolf9189 I know right!👻
epsecially xmas dubstep gun
@@lahvinek1 twas part of my holiday tradition.
When i first played this game, i was like 8 and this game felt so fun to play. It was so goofy and full of colors which made me love this game when others didn’t
The thing that actually improved my time with the game was making the main character look like Duke Nukem.
Made fighting aliens seem feel right.
Endless pop culture references, yep Duke.
And it was still better than Duke Nukem Forever.
Making senator armstrong is also fun considering the super powers
I really enjoyed the character creator. That is, when my entire wardrobe wasn't glitching out of existence lol.
Okay I think I knew where duke deuce got his album name from
@@n0zo.143 nanomachines son!
Title: SR4 ruined everything
Everyone in the comments: Actually SR4 was pretty good
Yeah, but it still ruined everything. It went so crazy that there was no decent option to go forward to next game.
@@MrHeiska01 you want to play with hipsters?, i actually wanted to explore the space with playa an his crew.
Anyone with good taste anyway.
Yeah because who the fuck care? The series was already fucked, so why not just embrace it you know.
Tbh the gameplay is superfun
...how can you hate this game?
It is ART
some people hate fun, if they were in charge they would have made a game just as bad as the reboot but with a story closer to gta iv
Not gangster enuff
@@agarrandoviaje5425 if the President of the United States with superpowers taking over a matrix world run by aliens isn’t gangster enough, nothing is.
It's not gangsta anymore, but 4 is better (written&comedy) compare 3 and also 3 poorly optimized
Some people just don't appreciate art.
Just finished SR4 and I must say it took a while to get into it but it's now one of my favourite games. It's like GTA meets Prototype. Brilliant
I ended up playing the games sort of back to front, so played 3 &4 first then eventually beat the first two last year for the first time.
I can now see the progression they made and playing the original SR games highlighted the innocence of the series before SR3 took things into the mainstream.
Just started playing with the 4th and found it hilarious. I was curious of how the previous games were about and was surprised by how serious they were
1 & 2 in my book are by far the best in my opinion
Saints row 1&2&3 is more actual gangsta games, 4 and gat out of hell is superhero games and very good games, i was unsure before i play the 4 but i loved it.
3 gets pretty out there, like zombies
@@Yeshua_is-Cool but are they worth in 2022? I played SR3 as a kid and man I want more from the saints, but SR4 and fat outta hell just seem so far out with all these goofy power ups.
@@xx4u2fearxx89 1 &2 are still good 👍 it has a certain feeling in it that I can't get anywhere else they are a product of there time though the first one has a silent protagonist that you can customize to your liken the layered clothing at first confused me but the amount of options and colors of clothing can make it unique same with too on clothing plus more options there's voice acting for the main protagonist and everyone mentions it in one way or another they were gonna let you bring your guy from the first one over like mass effect but they had to scrap it because of the new engine they used and they made jokes about it asking if he had a haircut there's alot to do in both of these games with activities gang hangouts shit ton of unlocks pimp cane is always fun you should definitely play the first two if you liked 3 Hopefully this helps you decide plus there backwards compatible on Xbox
A series that wasn’t even RPG had 10x better customizations than Cyberpunk, lmao
And most rpg games
Imagine if it was an RPG though. Imagine how epic Saints Row would be if we had dialogue options, perks, levels and faction rep.
@@zixx844 then it wouldnt be saints row
Also, while it was as much of a shitshow on launch Agents of Mayhem has a much better design for a cyberpunk city. The graphics aren't realistic but the design is what a real futuristic city should look like. Volition even made sure you have a place to park your car wherever you stop, something I never cared about in open-world games with cars until I played CP2077.
@@zixx844 not a bad idea at all, but it wouldn’t fit as a saints row game.
This video is a perfect example of how culture influences peoples perception.
SR4 is a fine and funny game meant to be laughed at my dude
saints 4 is dogshit ironic you say it should be laughed at because i couldn't imagine laughing at anything this game has to offer. cope
Played the game. Though I do agree that the super power does make the campaign so easy to achieve but I wish you can turn off power so I can play a regular person with no powers and also wish the police system were seperate into two, humans and zin alien race.
It's fun
@@user-ti6ix5tn2oI'm pretty sure there was a cheat code that did this in game
“It was meant to be laughed at”
The final cope of crying SrIV fans lmao
Looks like the Saints Row reboot killed the series. RIP Saints.
It's been dead since the third. The new one is just overkill
@@swagvegito2592 definitely saints row 3 started killing the series with its goofiness and childish bs, I couldn’t even stand the first hour that I never played it again. saints row 4 is just pure stinking garbage. Now the reboot is like the 3rd game, just terrible smh
SR2 and SR4 are my favorites personally, as they represent the extremes of the series. 2 is the grittiest and most genuinely badass game of the franchise, and 4 is generally just one of the most batshit insane games ever made, which I actually really appreciate. Excellent editing here though, for real! Dope video!
I can definitely see the appeal in the absolute pure insanity of 4 but for me it just drags after a while. Cheers man really appreciate it, been a fan of your content ever since your original dying light video!
@@AlexWebb101 HEY thanks man that's crazy to hear! Your DL video just got suggested to me a moment ago, on my way to check it out now! Side note, that new DL2 gameplay's looking _tasty_
I share a very similar view of the series. 2 is still my favorite sandbox of all time because of how alive everything feels, 4 is a great game to just fuck around in though.
Same
I fucking love the both of you so much
first, i think what makes saints row 4 special is that it’s just trying to be fun. we rarely get games that specifically focus on providing fun now. i love saints row 4. like i get it’s absolutely insaneeeeeeee but i find it glorious. i love that volition was like you know what. fuck it. saints row’s journey as a series has been evolving to a point where absolutely nobody could mistake it for gta and i feel like saints row 4 went the farthest to do that. as a result i adore it and the freewheeling fun
i agree with you we need more games that are fun not more GTA clones OR clones of well some game i may have an idea for a great apocalypse settlement building game thou
I think people missed the part where it was a jump into the same kind of superhero open world basically modernising the prototype and infamous genre when people wanted it to basically be more of the style of something like watchdogs or something
@@DW51380 No game should be the same as other games ,Saints row 4 gave the game some much deserved spice . all i wish for is an option to bring earth back or even to choose different companions that should have been abducted .But it was i very good game my game score is a whopping 8.5 out of ten so basically a great game . but otherwise i cant wait for saints row 5
Yes this is what morons say to defend SR4.
SR2 tried to be fun. SR4 tried to be whacky and failed because it was a lazy, derivative, vulgar and asinine piece of shit.
It was trash
This game is no longer the game that ruined the series. It's the Saints Row 2022 reboot.
I mean saints row 2022 is bad asf but this game will still be known as the game that ruined the series. Dont get me wrong saints row 2022 is absolute just. I cant even describe how bad it is
Saints row reboot is so terrible
Word
The video aged like milk now since the reboot came out and it was very atrocious and worse than what we had anticipated
Rowdy Pipers inclusion means that Saints Row & WWE are connected universes thanks to the Alex Webb Channel
Don’t forget RVD and H*lk H*gan voicing characters in Saints Row the Third
@@Portgas_D_wayne you mean hulk hogan
They wasted the opportunity of having a rematch between Rowdy and Keith David
And don't forget... Ultor is a company in both Saints Row and Red Faction... so that means the WWE is also set in the same universe...
he and Keith David did an 80s movie
Also the reason why SRIV was the last game, was cause it was supposed to be the last game. Agents of Mayhem was what Volition wanted to do, but that game sucked so they are now working on 5.
Yeah, I really don't get why Volition wanted to make Agents of Mayhem, it just felt like a shitty hero shooter and was basically a Saint's Row game in all but name, like what??!!
AOM had potential, but it was rushed and it had questionable marketing. Its a shame because I loved the idea behind it, but Volition just half-assed it.
They announced that they're working on a new saints row game like a year ago
SR3 & 4 Should've been called Agents of Mayhem and the Saints Row series should've continued the story of the first 2.
Volition shot themselves in the foot by splitting the fanbase of one series down the middle. The should've just made two seperate series in the first place, but they wanted to cash in on Saints Row's popularity.
@@TheHulk1850 AoM is the continuation of the earth brought back ending from "Gat out of Hell". I think they wanted to return to a less crazy type of game, since Saints Row 4 was so over the top that they probably just didn't know how to continue from there.
I've replayed saints row like 5 times to completion already, I actually love how they really commited to the bit and pushed the chaos as far as it would go.
Yikes
@@nicholasmiller8838 you're yikes
@@nicholasmiller8838 🤓
@@zizek4630 😔 🔫
@@themost-high898 already did mf
Saints Row 2022: "Hold my beer"
Saints Row reboot: "take my punch"
Nah since they're millennials it would be more like "Hold my overpriced cappuccino"
"The Game that Ruined the Series"
Here comes the Saints Row Reboot to prove you wrong lol
The fact that it needs to be rebooted proves him right, lol.
No, Saints Row 4 was definitely the game that ruined the series. The reboot is just a continuation of it being ruined
@@americanmetalhead7318 I'm still being cautiously optimistic, but hearing it's an epic exclusive, I won't be getting it until 2023 at least... unless it's on gamepass.
@@Emanouche it needs not but ok. Just because someone decided to make a reboot (cuz they most certainly can't invent and add anything new anymore after sr4, it was peak and they were pushing the limits of their imagination while making SR4 to stand out. So they just decided to push a hard reset button and make another generic boring game about gang wars for respect and territory where you have to become the best #1 gang of the city and to destroy all the other gangs and then "suddenly" one final enemy to destroy - cops/evil corpo/private military company which we certainly never seen in all sr1-sr3 games) doesn't mean it *needed* a reboot, lol.
Lol saints row reboot be like hold my beer 🤣🤣🤣
"This game is like a 15 hour acid trip."
I know, right!?..... Oh, you think that's a bad thing. Nah man, I dive right into that pool of insane and enjoyed every second.
Saints Row 4 is the only single player game that I can come back to and play all over again every few months. Saints row never had an award winning story. I just like the gameplay.
@@indefatigableargonaut same, it’s my favorite in the series cause it’s just so entertaining and fun. It’s an acid trip in the best way
@@indefatigableargonaut SR1 and SR2 did have a good story. Just because the newer games have bad stories doesnt mean it was always bad. The newer games just aren't about anything anymore. Its just random spoof, and thats the plot.
See, it’s a lot of fun. It just should’ve been something separate from Saints Row
Exactly! and that's what I love about it and why it's my favorite saints row game.
compared to the reboot this game is a 10/10
Fr
I dont think so
@@sunix8078 lmfao the reboot doesn’t even work
@@slowly1x maybe its a bit cringey but every Saints row was pretty mutch like that, works perfectly
@@sunix8078 singing karaoke, paying off student loans, and a shirtless chef/dj is not gangster
Time to make another “ the game that ruined the franchise” video 🤣
The game isn't great story wise, BUT what they were able to do with the engine is pretty impressive as a cross gen title. A couple more months in the development oven would have been more than ideal for what is a game based on utter fun, absurdity and carnage.
Outside of the characters/story, the fun from previous Saints Row games are still in tact. Let's be real, the core game in itself is good, but its the execution and the release of a bug riddled product that attracted a h*tstorm of negativity. They are slowly getting fixed, but I still don't think the Series is dead. Far from it. Hopefully they learn from this and take community feedback on board.
Would be ideal if you were able to analyse the game on its own merits instead of following the crowd like a pathetic sheep.
@@cbgg1585 Even on its own the reboot is bad. Boring story without any stakes, characters that don't feel like gangsters, too much filler content and forced grinding and the game is far too easy.
To anyone who doesn't know, Gat Out of Hell is canon. And the canon ending of it is retcon. So next game will be a reboot
that reboot was agents of mayhem as confirmed in game its the continuation, but the next game for sure will be a franchise reboot
hopefully they use time travel once then never again
maybe travel during SR2's time and city (or a bit before TT) or just reboot the entire series anew
Only way the next saints row game is going to be good is if its a complete remake of the original. Everyone keeps talking about the time traveling method but this would further ruin the series since that would mean saints row 3, 4 gat out of hell are still canon.
There is literally no other way to progress the series after the Earth has been destroyed and we've already gone to space and the after life. The series is dead so the only way to return fan interest would be to recapture the street feel of the earlier games; if you aren't willing to do that might as well just make a whole new franchise.
The series ended canonically with Saints Row the third. Saints Row 4 and Gat Out of Hell isn't canon. It's just absolute nonsense.
This game has one of the greatest villains IMO
Zinyaks dialogue is just excellent
Yea I loved sr4 it was my favorite
I think you should get higher standards
Especially in Matt’s prison levels honestly-
Compared to Kill Bane, Matt and the other guy, Zinyack might as well be Dr.Doom
@@boarragnarok6798
You mean Philippe Loren? Idk if I misspelled it or not tho
The other main baddie in Saints Row 3 (who died at the start of SR4 but lives on through the simulation) Is Cyrus Temple
"Saints Row 4 - The Game That RUINED The Series"
Saints Row reboot: "Hold my latte"
SR4 is pure unadulterated video game fun.
This comment is 1000% true, I don’t even like the game but I’ve had fun playing it for years
If it was a different title people who love it more
You know what y’all maybe SR4 wasn’t so bad…
same mate I'm traumatized as well.
yep
"Perhaps I treated you too harshly"
SR4 was never bad, one of the most fun games Ive ever played, it also had better writing than SR3 and many great references, people who hated it is just a retarded elitist
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 Yeah that’s just a joke. I’ve never hated SR4 and I actually played SR3/4 first then went to 1/2. Enjoyed all the games, I was just poking fun with this new reboot cause I was upset it didn’t have the og crew, but I’m over that now. Who knows, maybe the new SR will end up surprising everyone.
This game was a blast. I'm really upset that I'm among the few that actually appreciate it because I remember playing it when I was 14 and having a fantastic time.
We also got one of the greatest villains of all time. So underappreciated
Absolutely loved Saints Row 4.
i dont really see how people dont like it. i think the super powers were a really good addition to the game.
@@dominickurtzman6806 I think it got to the point where every mission seemed repeated got to admit I got bored
We don't hate the game we hate that they put this game in the same series as a Gang War based game. Infact 2 gang war based game. Hows it supposed to be a sequel when it turns absurdly to an entirely new direction. If you didn't begin with 1 then 2, I wouldn't expect any of you to understand. It's like making Star Wars and then having episode 6 aka the third release but it forgets about a rebellion and it just turns into a space adventure musical.
I and others do not care how good SR3 and SR4 was or if it was bad. We just want a real continuation. Not this facade. They did agents of mayhem, and it's been clear since then that they were moving like this. And the reason why many SR fans first buy the game is in hopes for it to be a good sequel, not just a "good game". We are here for the Saints Row shit, if they wanna make something else fine. Agents of mayhem or whatever else. But when we ask for a Saints Row game we want to pay for an actual Saints Row game. SR3 is the godamn seed of this. The studio began the Sci fi bs there with a hovering ship and laser weapons. A lot of us think thats cool, but at the same time we don't care. I really be enjoying the Kanye west song power for the trailer exited for something better than SR2, only to be dissapointed. The lack of effort to impress began there.
I can't even enjoy free roam like in stillwater. And most of the people like the new characters but I didn't feel the same way. The only thing about the characters was 2 hot twins and Shaundi changing to look hot.
If SR3, SR4 and the stuff after was under a different franchise. I garentee it would have not got the hate it did. And it would be enjoyed. But they slap a different design on an already existing design pulling a different crowd and dragging the old crowd. And for SR4 it's really just Crackdown in the Saints Row Universe. So if you like that you will enjoy Crackdown games. Gameplay wise I mean.
Like I said, if you weren't beginning from SR to SR2 then you won't get it. It's Call of Duty 1-Ghost then to Advance Warfare. Its Assassins Creed-Assassins Creed 4 to Assassins Creed Origins or whatever those games are.
It went from fun games with a clear purpose to the creation team clearly not having real ideas of a sequel. Atleast Assassins Creed did make an effort.
Sims be performing sequels better than Saints Row. Simply because they don't swap things around like SR series has been treated and slam a 3rd street saints logo on it.
Simply to put it. We want anything after SR the third under a different name. And make Saints Row 3. None of this bs of presidency, aliens, world blowing up, world being a simulation, techno weird blue gang that does some stupid fast ability, a stupid crackdown parody unless its just an activity, and the list goes on. Especially allowing us to upgrade guns but to take the upgrades off. Story mission replay to return, crib customization to be expanded not simplified, better gang warfare, and so on.
The whole idea to kill off Johnny gat but turns out he wasn't dead, was stupid. The idea to kill him off, is stupid. The fact they needed to run away from using stillwater as the game location is also stupid on their part. And idk who was responsible for those mistakes, but ik they should really just go make another franchise and not rip off Saints Row characters or style like Agents of Mayhem did. I liked playing SR3 and SR4, but I can acknowledge those 2 games and the original SR and SR2 are not alike when it comes to what games they are. Just the style of cutscenes, logo, guns and so on. Take those away, 2 are a funny gangster open city game. The other 2 are an action sci fi open city game with wacky elements and crazy cyberspace inspiration with a huge load of pop references.
Now some people may like it all, heck you might be one of them. But that just means you like it all and you care less about this stuff. Which I do not relate. And obviously others don't too. The developers failed to see that, and make us anxious for SR 5. It could be a good sequel and a good game. Or just a good game and a bad sequel. Simple as.
There you go.
This videos obsolete now with the reboot
This one didn't age quite so well
As someone who played all 4 upon release, Saints 4 really brought the series to another level for me, and was by far my favorite, gameplay wise.
Ikr. It's not that bad of a game. The controls are amazing as well
saints row 4 is SHIT
@@dirtyshinobii ding dong your opinion is wrong
So you didn’t like SR1 or 2 they legit had something so special wit them two in the beginning
@@justinthompson638 no they didn’t lol gta clones
"No Eddie, you can't say the N-word!"
Damn, Raimi's Spidey sure were made in a different times.
Lol. New Saints Row 2022 is the game that will ruin this series. Saints Row IV was truly a masterpiece in comparison. SRIV is literally the best superpower game on the market.
But not the best saints row game on the market, it's not even about the saints anymore like what are you doing? Saints row was a masterpiece to all of them combined. Saints row 3 is mid, 4 ranks low, and reboot the lowest. But in terms of story the reboot I'd put in front of 4's story
@@swagvegito2592 Honestly, i don't get why people like SR The Third over SR IV. Like, everything is better in IV. Even despite the fact we fighting aliens in a simulation, SRIV is more of a proper Saints Row game then The Third. It focuses more on our beloved characters (where in The Third they were shit, including Boss), have better villains and better story and dialogues. than The Third and overall have that SR feel and atmosphere.
@@swagvegito2592 people like you remind me of people who complain that Mad Max movies aren't solely about Mad Max
New saints row said hold my beer
Hold my soy latte you mean
I feel like I'm one of the few people who played the previous Saints Row games but still loved Saints Row 4 and even Gat Out of Hell.
I mean come on that's what games are for that's why you feel the happiness because in definition games are different than books and stories because you can interact with them that's why I never cared much for story in a game unless it's horror or deep lored
Gat out of hell is my favourite one
I'm with ya dude =)
I agree
I see, a man of culture as well
Honestly the gameplay itself was about giving you options on how you wanted to play the game, guns aren't entirely useless because they're still fun to use, still fun to shoot. At least that's my opinion.
I've constantly used the dubstep gun
Same goes for cars. Flying may be fast and fun but driving is fun too, its about which youd rather do
I use so many guns when I play it, it's just fun. Like the black hole gun or the abduction ray. Hell I'll even use the shotgun just to fly around acting like if the punisher got superman's powers.
You can't look at the mini gun, rocket launcher, flame thrower, fire works masterpiece of a weapon and tell me weapons are useless in SR4
Still better then the new one
The new one killed the franchise. It's not even a contest.
So, looks like 4 is not the lowest point in the series anymore…
Watch the newest trailer
Nope it still is
@@nothingbutthetruth718 definitely not
Okay I'm going to be cautiously optimistic about the game has because they haven't shown us any gameplay and and if Saints Row 4 is lowest point of franchise maybe it has a reason to be rebooted
Good lord people can we atleast wait for maybe a demo before saying anything?
I feel like everything you point at is what actually makes it great. It is supposed to just be fun and ridiculous. Saints Row has been just silly since 3 and 4 just leaned into that giving us arguably the best matrix game made.
It was silly snce the first one.
If you enjoy mindless hack n' slash games without any story or stakes, sure. If you're playing the game because you've enjoyed not only the nonsense from the first games, but the story and characters, it's pretty easy to understand why this game ended up being so underwhelming, and shouldn't be anything more than a DLC for the third game. Being a sequel kinda fucked up any possibility for another sequel.
@@MrLoowiz If you care so much about MUH STORY, try watching a movie instead.
@@youcantbeatk7006 What a stupid comment. Is that the best rebuke you could come up with?
@@youcantbeatk7006 Or reading a book for that matter, getting tired of people that insist they play game because of muh story and say that everyone who disagrees with them has shit taste, as if most storytelling in gaming isn't garbage tier...
Gameplay and presentation are king
people thought this was kind of whack
but they had no idea what the future has in store...
You jump on a launching nuke to single handedly stop it from blowing up a city while "I don't want to miss a thing" blasts in the background, which somehow makes you a president (who you can choose to be a balding 7 ft tall obese woman with Nolan North's voice) who can cup check corrupt congressmen until a Shakespeare quoting alien kidnaps you and puts you in a matrix that's themed around a 1950s sitcom...
All within the first hour of the game...
Clear 10/10 for me.
...I guess I’m the only one that loved the 4th. D;
You're not alone, buddy. I love this game because it just says "fuck it" and goes absolutely insane. It's flawed, I'm not gonna deny that, but it's a fun ride.
I genuinely loved that mf game
Loved it too as well.
It was the perfect amount of wtf for me, i still play it.
Not really I love it to
If you think this ruined the series just wait till you see the nail in the coffin
Guess we'll find out, eh? Can't be sure at the moment.
4 is a gem after 5 dropped.
guessing all the remake stuff is why this popped into my reccomendeds.... and honestly... i am glad. glad to see this old game, and chuckling to myself thinking "wow.... really wish they kept thought process going in terms of insanity... maybe the new one might have been half decent then...."
Wow, I actually loved SR4. It was just a much different style of a game that I enjoyed.
Have you played the first 2 games? They went from street gangs which I liked,to selling energy drinks and shit,then to fighting aliens and being the president,then to fighting demons in hell. I just wish we could go back to where we started.
@@ajax3748 yet, but the insanity of the game is what made 4 so fun to play, 1 and 2 has almost nothing of that
@@chillmanmax775 yet,1 and 2, are still leagues better
@@ajax3748 why is your argument based on "i like the game"? thats like the most biased basis ever
@@ajax3748 Jex - Where We Started
Well I think we can all agree that SR4 ain't so bad now after seeing the reboot.
No SR4 is very bad
Am I the only one one who doesn't get the hate for the reboot?
We have seen no gameplay yet.
no one has played it yet and people are already hating on it LOL. im excited for it
@@VNCstudios if you don’t why then you’re part of the problem
@@Hehexd944 because I don't judge games on trailers?
Wtf you smoking dude?
I judge games on reception after release then buy it not on dumb pre release speculation.
This didn’t age well.
This didn’t age well.
saints row 2 is still the best game in the franchise and nothing they have made has been able to compare to it
I got my copy of Saints Row 2 signed by Shaundi herself, Eliza Dushku 😍
Remember... We have have bad wrestling games and saints row because THQ decided to make a real golden Wii for the Queen of England of which she never got.
Wait WHAT?
@@philipmiguel5563 Yeah, it's up for sale on eBay. You can buy it if you want right now.
Saints Row 4: "I ruined the franchise."
Saints Row (2022): "I'm going to kill it."
True lol 😂
Bruh, we havent even gotten real gameplay footage yet
@@InContemplation We actually did with their most recent trailer. The gameplay looks fun but it's ruined by the story and characters. Hell two of the gangs is a rip off of The Deckers and Ultor. This is Last of Us 2 all over again. Definitely not buying I'll stick to the originals instead.
@@goldensaiyan4 wtaf are you talking about? We have basically nothing so far and theres already dozens of assumptions? Like did people look at the 1 shot of the guy with the glow rope and somehow unironically go "dECkErS hAD nEOn sO thEyRe tHe SaME"???
Also the characters we've had literally no interaction with as players???
@@InContemplation Are you blind they are basically knock off deckers and one of the other gangs is basically Ultor. Take off your hype glasses and see what the game really is.
Then one year later
The new one comes out, and it sucks more than 4
Actually SR 3 and 4 weren't divisive in the slightest imo. They didn't divide the fanbase so much as created an entire annex if you will, of those people that want the batshit crazy over the top shooter. For instance I've never played SR 1 or 2, but I did hear that those were a lot more grounded and dealt with more or less believable gang warfare settings. Only I would've never touched them. There's GTA for that.
I did however snapbuy SR 3, 4 and yes, even GooH, BECAUSE they were completely nuts.
People really overplay the seriousness of SR2, it's still plenty silly and you make it even sillier if you want
@@jackharrow7147 There was a limit to it
Saints Row 2 was really the best the franchise has to offer, in both story and gameplay. It sucks the comparisons to GTA resulted in it's spinning out of control into whatever this is.
Absolutely indisputable, Saint's Row 2 is hands down the best of the franchise. For the love of God Volition, remaster 2!!
Tbh sr4 is not a bad game. Its better than agents of bullshit
No that would be 3
@@TheHulk1850 they can't remaster the second one because of what I heard they couldn't find the codes for it or something idk I could be wrong but hey a guy can only dream
@@reesevendetta9641 I really enjoy it tbh
Looking back at SR3, I genuinely have no clue why, out of all the characters, Oleg ends up getting completely overlooked by Zinyak despite the fact that the only reason Zinyack invaded Earth was to collect the strongest and brightest humans which are 2 categories that Oleg actually fits into. At least this was the case in SR3, where Oleg’s intelligence can sometimes match Kinzie’s in certain instances and is also practically immune to death itself whenever the game calls for it. However, in SR4, he and Josh Birk are just casually drinking beers at a bar right after witnessing an alien invasion (instead of trying to find out what the hell happened and where everyone who had been kidnapped was taken to, like SR3 Oleg would probably do) and also apparently didn’t have the phone number of, not only his own boss, but also the president of the United States whom he worked for as one of his bodyguards
If I recall, Oleg was called but it was drowned out by the music.
Too big to fit in those capsules idk.
Saints Row 4: Ha ha ha! I am the worst Saints Row game of all! I completely destroyed the series!
Saints Row 2022: Hold my beer.
Matter of fact. I'm redownloading it to play. Again. Fully completed on Xbox. Now full completion on ps4.
Aslong as 5 goes back to gang warfare I'll be bless
Yea
I'll pass then.
It will or its gonna flop saints row is a gangster games fuck aliens and superpowers
@@ludacorleone8563 trust me idc about GTA saints row always did it better
@@boozywithanuzi7902 lets see what this game will be
Saints row 4 was, and still is, probably the best superhero simulator ever made that's not a Spider-Man game. It was fun AF.
Loll no DC online is far superior
@@daniell5740 huh? No
Arkham series??
@@daniell5740 That was a true L, Daniel.
@@chkmg7297 Batman's not really a superhero.
By far some of the most fun I've had in a long time was loading this game up, turning every cheat on, inviting a friend, and just revelling in the chaos. I love _all_ of these games, saints row two is my favorite by a long run, but I've never played one of these games and thought "man, I'm not enjoying this", even GooH had it's moments.
I remember my brother telling me that in Saints Row 4 you get superpowers and fight aliens, and I didn't believe him.
I myself actually enjoyed this installment of the saints row franchise. I did 2 playthrus that’s how much I enjoyed it.
To be honest while the fighting aliens things was enjoyable and fresh for a gta clone i thought this game was trash Taking away the ability too drive around was stupid why leave it in then give the player the ability too run at super speed personally if this game had been released as it’s own thing and not had the saints name splashed on it it would have been fantastic
The opening was fantastic however I really liked the punch the dickhead or punch a dick in the head and while it was the same thing the way it was worded was great
Same lmao
The super powers were implemented very well and was worth playing just for that!
@@FairAussie1 SR4 was my first game into the series so I never thought if felt like an extended dlc. Juts lots of stupid fun
I remember when Saints Row 3 was getting released. Some classmates were hype that they encouraged others to wear purple that day.
I didn't have a Purple shirt. So I wore my usual black tee. Anyways, they were so hype about it they skipped school middle of the day.
Aw man, that sounds like a Awsome time to be at school!
I dont know much about this series, but seeing a playthrough of SR4 on RUclips made it seem quite enjoyable.
My favorite part was Armstrong breaking Zinyak in two with his bare hands.
it is good game, but not a Saints row good game, thats why not fan of franchise love it
Gotta say, after playing so many realistic and grounded games, Saints Row 3 was a breath of fresh air. An actual gun game. Amazing.
Can't wait to start Saints Row 4 lmao
Finally someone not being a toxic og fanboy
Idk if you played it , im doing it now 50 percent done ,and im enjoying it alot lmao, at this point i dont even care what the story is im just running around killing everyone 😭
I played 1-2 as a child and held off 3 and 4. After the "major success 🤢" of Saints Row reboot, I decided to give 3 and 4 a try and loved them, they're different but still loved them.
I really wish the series maintained the SR2 style, I feel they struck the best balance between the batshit crazy, and serious moments there. SR3 was such a disappointment to me, but for some reason, I loved SR4.
Interesting. I actually loved SR3 and thought sr4 was okay
SR4 was a total disappointment to me, but for a more understanding reason, I loved SR3.
@@danielbold6167 SR3 was just pure grizzly fun. Like gta 4
The fast and furious series is one step closer to reaching this level 🤣
I’m gonna be the only one to say this but I actually enjoyed saints row 4, you can tell the developers had fun with it, some of the best music choices in video game history, memorable and badass moments, and it legitimately felt good to control the player. I believe people were too stuck on saints row being a more down to earth gta style crime game. I think if this game was released as something other than saints row with different characters, people would’ve loved it
These devs created this IP, made the deliberate choice to go with fun and over the top vs photorealistic and restrained gameplay all the way back in Saints Row 2 yet people were surprised that it ended up going full chaos mode. I'll never understand the backlash to this game, it was the only logical endpoint to the series that let you mercy kill Carlos in a fucking hotdog suit.
Saints Row 2 is the best in the series and one of the best crime sandbox games ever, but SR4 is the best Matrix game ever made and legitimately the second best in the series.
@@jackharrow7147 no worse than 3 and 1 but
@@jackharrow7147 it’s a good game just not a good SAINTS ROW game
Welp this didn't age well
SR3 jumped the shark
SR4 said "hold my beer" got into a angry birds slingshot, hijacked a jetpack mid air, did a quintuple axel flip over tge shark and then looked at the judge hoping to see those 10/10's
And that's why I love it
SR3 did not "jumped the shark" you're just blinded by nostalgia
Couldn't have put it better myself
And then Bam
Reboot time
That whole description made SR4 look a lot more cooler though.
The editing gets better and better. Dude, you have such a fucking skill with this. Thanks for the laughs. The Dark Side of the Ring flash popped me hard.
Thank you man, really appreciate all the love for my dumb edits x
its appealing for the younger audience, for me the video would've been way better without those wannabe funny edits every 5 seconds, otherwise the person itself explains it pretty well but constantly interrupted.
I didn't like it , too much silly editing without porpouse. Next time just try to convey the message you wanna tell through images without overdoing it
@@kant.68 First off, it's *purpose. Secondly, the editing is done with purpose and intent. If you don't like it, it's safe to say that this just isn't the style of video editing for you.
@@kant.68 ok boomer
I guess you have a new video to make. Godspeed.
I enjoyed Saints Row 4 more than 3 . It time to make a video about how Saints Row reboot does *something* to the series, I suppose.
Saints row 2 is my favourite because it had the best soundtrack in any game ive played, i miss listening to 107.77 mix an just doing random shit
The game really loses me when Earth is blown up and everything we do turns into just simulations. If the rumoured 5th game comes out they need to ignore the story of 4. Have a few flashbacks of it and show out character waking up, just make all off 4 a dream.
I want to get to the in-universe real world, have real stakes not just everything being a fake simulation. We need to get back to gang warfare. In 3 where the gangs eventually ends up fighting the military, that's as crazy as we need to get.
Story wise in 4 it felt like nothing mattered, and killing off the Earth and so many characters wasn't cool at all.
And yea the game play was fun. But I agree it dragged by the point we got later into the game.
Rumor has it that saints row IV and gat of hell will be treated like Gangstas in Space story wise which is just part of Saints in-universe product placement in saints row V.
@@imanrosohadi2125 That or they just will take the bullet and go full time travel or space opera
That’s honestly where I was left at. I thought the game was just the same SteelPort but over turned by zinyak forces. I didn’t realize it was a simulated version of the city until playing the game. Wish they didn’t do that because changing time of day and returning to the ship breaks character and takes way too long to do rather than just adding cheats like the previous games. And on top of that the game should have no replay after completion seeing as the simulation got shut down to stop Zinyak. It’s like playing sr 1 seconds after the game is completed. It makes no sense where as sr2 and the third (depending on which ending) makes sense to still be playable after the story is finished.
But then Johnny would still be dead
That's just Saints row 1 to 3, that's kinda lame and repetitive if they did that.
Hey dude! You came up in my recommendations and I’ve never been less disappointed. Your vids are awesome! You should totally do videos on the first 2 saints rows!
Saints Row 4 was really fun (Could’ve been shorter and probably should’ve been a dlc for 3) but it really left the series no place to go haha
Saints Row 4 is one of my favorite games of all time. Nothing anyone says can change that.
Fr
Nobody cares if you love a shit game.
It’s still a shit game and you have objectively poor taste.
But why would I want to change your mind? Idiocy is something only you can fix for yourself.
Your opinion is wrong, but since it’s an opinion it’s acceptable.
@@XanVicious bro just shutup
i like the game too
The thing I love about the Saints Row series is that it always tried to do something different with each game to keep it fresh. SR1 was similar to GTA but had its own fresh take on the gangster scene. SR2 did the same thing but took it to even greater heights. SRTT did something different, trying ti be as chaotic as possible while still being sorta normal which was a welcome change imo. SR4 took SRTT and just filled it with steroids and gave you super powers. Thing things that kept the game all together that made it amazing was it had the most loveable psychopaths in video game history
The way you worded it made it sound like SR2 in fact did nothing different
@@notmattmurdock7663 he said it took it to greater heights, that isn’t nothing.
@@frazza5503 SR2 did the same thing but better, is what he said. Not different.
This game was my first SR experience. I grew up playing gta and knew about sr 2 and 3 but never got the chance to play them. Eventually when I did, it was a really fun and unique experience. I had done all the gta stuff before so this was kinda like a breath of fresh air. I enjoyed the story, mainly because the script was hilarious imo. So if you just let the game do it’s thing, despite its flaws, I think it’s just fun. Hats off to them for making a game focused around fun and less on the aspects that make mainstream games really popular
i know this was posted over a year ago but you completely forgot to mention that one of the dlc’s basically said that the events of the game never even happened and was basically just a movie that the saints were recording. johnny gat is still alive of course but when i saw that the entirety of sr4 was just a movie in the sr universe, i went insane.
Oh ho-ho, you just haven't seen The Saints Row (2021)
The REAL trouble
The old school UberhaxorNova and Creature references hit me in the feels.
Me too, Those were the good ol days
It just ain't the same now :(
Felt that, Nova was my whole childhood 😩
;(
i thought i was the only one who noticed, made me sad lol
CORRECTION: the game that ruined the series is Saints Row (2022)
This game actually, genuinely has the best character customisation of any game ever.