Underfloor Heating Pipes Are In! BUT...
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- We're making progress on our Portuguese stone building renovation. Our long-awaited parts for the underfloor heating system have arrived and it's time to crack on with the install.
In this video we lay all the pipe and connect it back to the manifold. But, as usual, not everything goes to plan. Join us for some good times, some relaxing timelapse and some good old fashioned frustration.
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You guys watching paint dry would make for great viewing!!! Love your humor!! Amazing team!
😂🤣 maybe we’ll do that one day with a glass of wine 😂
You all are such a great team, there’s really nothing that you can’t “redo” as long as you have each other!
awwwwww romantic
Beautifully done , congrats ! Another job done . 👍
I love the underfloor heating that my husband and I installed when we built our house 28 years ago .🏠 It makes such a difference when the warmth comes from below , not from a radiator .
I' m sure you' ll also be forever grateful for having gone through all the trouble . 😜
Keep up the spirit !
Feb. 3 2024 California watching one of your videos on smoothing walls in kitchen. As is I just enjoy each video that comes along. God bless🙏
Kylie is Great! Ever Patient, and so Amusing!
I’m so invested in your project now! I can’t wait to see it finished, but, I don’t want it to end! Lol!
Wow, that looks like it would have tested the patience of a saint.
I have suffered the pain of sore knees due to having to kneel - stiff back and overweight . Protecting your knees is important for later life. I found out too late. Best thing I ever found were Lidl/Aldi trousers with pockets for knee pads. Saving on constant moving of a 'kneeler' of some sort and always there for that unexpected need to kneel. I enjoy every minute of your vlogs and greatly admire your willingness to show the building process warts and all. You are one of the easiest most enjoyable vlogs to watch due to your laid back style quality of presentation. Many thanks for allowing us to follow along.
Incredibly laborious project. My hat is off to the two of you!
I hope you don't mind me questioning the use of PTFE tape on your compression fittings . The tape will prevent you tightening the nut . It looks like the seal is made by the o ring & the ferrule crimping the plastic pipe , Not at the thread , like it would be on a tapered thread , where you would use PTFE tape .
Kylie your logic speaks volumes … yet again you have both ensured its a job well done 👍 Durban SA 🇿🇦
Coming together nicely. I think that I would prefer the underfloor heating due to all the reasons you stated and I think it will be a more even heat as well. The walls that you finished are looking very nice also. Amazing transformation.
Good choice to go for the underfloor heating.
I have a remark for the pipe connections: The system with internal thule and conical ring outside the pex will seal between the pex and the liner and conical ring. Do not put tape on the thread, because it limits the force between the sealing components.
Thanks for all your video’s and greetings from The Netherlands!
Yeh I agree, the tape is definitely unnecessary
When the heat rises all the work will have been worthwhile.
A few miles away we are also installing our own lenha fueled central heating. Makes sense living by the forest.
I first experienced underfloor heating in the early 70s. It was fantastic, toasty feet, easy to clean, unrestricted furniture placement and even heat distribution. You’ll love it!
We did the same in London in a large kitchen/lounge extension so it was a no brainer to do it here since we’re ripping anything out 😃
I grew up in Michigan and we had radiant heat. The thermostat was set to 62F (20 C) and we ran around the house barefooted. When your feet are warm you don’t feel cold. The old mechanical contractor used to refer to forced air heating as “burnt air” LOL!
Very nice and clear explanation of a floor heated system. Well done!
Underfloor heating is such a bonus in the inland winters in Portugal. Wise decision... the hard work will be worth it. I'm impressed with your courage and skills!
Congratulations on almost finishing the hard job!
You two are incredible, Great job!! From Spain
What an incredible milestone for you both. Well done.
So much care in the details. That house is going to be amazing.
Best Portuguese "UK" Homestead Channel 🔥😅👍
I'm so impressed by your meticulous and detailed planning! I hope the part arrived and the testing went well.
Nice catch there at the end Guy, the byyyee is critical 😉 Just saw the next video, can't wait to go home and watch it.
Well done! What a bloody task! You could do with workman's trousers with knee pads - under floor heating scares me a bit... Well done 👍
I’ve been looking for those types of trousers for years… but the ones I’ve found only come in slim-female shape 😂. Might have to make my own
He wasn't stubborn. He persevered!!
Lime and metal - did not know that, thanks!
Someone's done their homework properly regarding the patterm of the pipes, I got underfloor heating with water pipes and another advantage is the soft shift perceived when the system regulates the amount of heating required. Also there's no drafts or cold spots using traditional wall mounted heating elements.
Another benefit is no need for slippers or even socks making your morning coffee, warm and comfortable floors. The sight of bare hobbit feets is easily avoided by not looking down, your view should always be onward and up. Keep up the good work!
Another great thing about your work is that you never cut corners. You want to do the project (be it laying pipe or planting a garden or replacing lintels or any of the other myriad of things you do on your farm) without cutting corners. Even going to the length of redoing whatever you did incorrectly. I am so impressed!
I really like the wall finish. It appears on the video like a Venetian plaster finish. Great progress!
I hadn't thought about backup when you have a series of grey days, but you did! Being able to use a wood burner is a great idea. And there's a law about having exactly enough parts to complete a job. If you had bought extras you wouldn't have needed them.
I have a whole box of plumbing extras from previous renovations …. you always have too many or not enough, always!! 😂
Hi guy's your doing a fantastic job there I can c it's hard work what your doing it's just amazing. X
Well done folks, hope the replacement part arrives on time. 😊
I love Kylie! She isn’t fake ever. Down to earth and realistic. Guy and Kylie are a great team and I really enjoy the process.
Great video. Just a thought - many years ago I installed underfloor heating which keeps us warm some 20 years on but I did not plan the bathroom installation that well - I kept the heating pipes too far away from the toilet bowl and everytime you use the toilet your feet are standing on a cold section of floor. It bugs me 20 years on especially in the middle of a really cold night. Good luck and thanks for sharing. By the way over the years I have settled on leaving the underfloor on 24/7 on the meanest low setting ever - it really works and is cost effective.
Guy, the king of innuendo 🤪🤣🤣🤣 You two are a magic combo. 😃 🌻🐈🇬🇧
“Just say: Bye”. “Oh bye”.😂😅
something to watch for while pouring your floor, the pipe likes to float. So make sure the mat is truly over secure. Great work by the way
Relaxing video! ❤ fosters and pipe laying! Bye! 😂❤
I was drinking Fosters (lager) btw! 😊
Another task under control! Well done, Kylie and Guy❤️❤️👏👏👏👏👏
Great job... I've never done under floor heating... All the under floor heating I've seen done had silver metal reflective under it so all the heat rises... Maybe it's different when there's damp idk... But great job...
Oh Wow, alot of tedious work that requires great determination and focus.
Both of you are a great team.
Well done...
Thank you for sharing.
Wishing both good health, do rest well and enjoy.
God bless...
Amen.
Rust not good for under floor but love what it did to that 21:30 door!
You guys are bloody awesome 🎉
Awesome videos and project. Bravo from Montana, 🇺🇸.
Thanks for the great video. I’m expecting to start building my home later this year in Ireland and expect to have underfloor heating installed so hearing your rationale behind the grid layout gave me a eureka moment and I’m now off to design my own grid!! 👍👍👍
No happy ending?!. 😱
I have great confidence in your combined persistence, It's looking amazing, great job!
Well done guy, love you 2 ,
Brilliant! This is the same setup that we plan to work on in a few months so excited to follow the progress! We are also going to be fully electric with a wood fired assist. Brilliant work!
Bye! And thanks for the really clear explanation re: your overall plan.
I lived with under floor heating for 20 years. I liked it , I hope you enjoy yours.
I subscribed to your channel from the beginning. The both of you make an outstanding team. I am sure your home is going to be lovely, and I am blessed to be along for the ride. Thank you both for creating this channel. May God bless you both on your journey, your friend Luis Novalez (Chicago, Illinois, USA)
Tip of the day. Cut open the rool of PEX and let it warm in the sun for a few hours and it’s much easier to layout and fasten to your grid.
G'day again from downunder Kylie & Guy.
I've never laid underfloor heating, but I can imagine it would be a pain in the arse to do.
Seeing you two are DIYing your house, I'd love to see you design and build the backup wood burner for the underfloor heating. That would be a great video. Keep up the great work 👍
Have you thought about a rooftop wind machine? The newest ones are not that expensive, (in the US, they are a quarter of the price of solar) need only 3mph to work, is housed in a box like structure so birds cannot fly into it & are just as efficient if not more efficient than solar. You could put on one of the outbuilding so not to desecrate your beautiful old stone house. Worth looking into & planning for the future.
Hey guys great work, don't bother with the PTFE on the manifold it wont do anything to stop leaks, the olives in the pipe it what seals the pipe from leaking the PTFE on the threads just makes it harder to tighten the nut with no gain or benefit.
Sun Energy out of Coimbra might be another option for you. They are in the middle of installing our Vaillant heating/cooling heat pump system, which is large and complex. The demand for the equipment and a shortage of trained installation technicians are high, but they are working hard.
Oh, thanks, will check them out.
Any reason you chose Vaillant? We’ve always had their gas boilers but don’t know much about their reputation with heat pumps
@@MAKEDOGROW I did a lot of research, and the general consensus is that Vaillant is the best in Europe for a long list of reasons. Especially in our application. Made in Germany, reliability, CoP, etc. And we're fortunate that Portugal readily receives goods from Germany.
Maybe the water can be passed through a direct sunlight heating system, maybe just a bunch of black pipes inside a box, before any active heating element. Plenty of cold days in Portugal are sunny. Maybe would have to be bypassed when not enough sunlight, some valve/relay controlled by a light meter perhaps?
Like mentioned before, don't think Teflon should be added on compression fittings. The most important part is to cut the pex pipe properly and calibrate them before adding the compression fittings.
*Kylie & Guy, another awesome job done.... well done.*
Looking super, you guys! Can't wait to see you walk barefoot 😉 on your toasty warm floors when it's cold and damp. Giddy up! Thanks for sharing the progress! 😊
Another masterclass in how to do a renovation in Portugal properly.. unlike knock it together then redo next week!! 😊
Great team and what I like we get all the warts and all. Well done
Thanks, especially for explaining the spiral layout! Keeping my fingers crossed that you can move on to slabbing next week.
Well done! you avoided what I think is the most rookie mistake you kept control of the piping so many people let it spool out and become a twisted kink prone mess! A++
Very well done guys, that looked like very hard and frustrating work. I. Sure you are very glad it’s done.🥰🥰🥰🥰👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I have worked almost 10years as s Project Leaders in construction and some years of Carpentry and some as a Concrete/Rebar Worker.
You can't really defend Electric floor heating anymore if you calculate the Floor heating cost over it's lifetime.
You did the complety right decision with water carried floor heating! Well done!
You will not regret it!
(if you want to do an "Uppgrade", buy a air-to-air pump or even better a Geothermal heat pump with a drill hole.)
Tedious but satisfying 👍 love it when you get her laughing.
Great job. We had underfloor heat in some of the rooms in our last house in Illinois. It even had it in the garage which was super nice in sub zero weather.
Nice project. As always well researched and planned. And of course executed. I hope you'll have a lot of cosy winters in these rooms.❄️☃️
At 15:48 I don't think that you need PTFE tape on the threads of those fittings. They appear to have either an o-ring or a taper on the inside so there is no need for tape on the thread, it just makes it harder to put together and get a good seal. I am not familiar with those particular fittings, but have done tons of other brass threads and fittings. if any of these joints leak during testing, I'd take the tape off before re-tightening. Love your videos, thanks...
My you have been busy. I love the way you check and check till you're sure. Thanks for your informative explanations about under floor heating.
Liked already! Let’s watch it now 😄
It’s going turn a wonderful stone cottage !! ❤
Wonderful job! Now the questions. Have you decided on thermostat locations? The amount of thermal mass your dealing with will make the locations pretty important. Where will your heat pump live? Outside unit, with an inside storage tank? Any thoughts on adding an evacuated tube solar water panel to get the solar assist on sunny days? Pretty efficient water heaters. Finally, once you get this dialed in, this will be a great heating system. Nicely done and thanks so much for all you guys do for the channel.
One thought, put a thermal sensor in the middle of the room (embedded in the floor) then use software to control the temperature to your liking.
woah, a backup wood burner for heating the water? That's something that I haven't seen
Awesome progress....👍👍👍👍👍
Your information is very interesting. You two are amazing! hard workers.....lots of patience~wow. Thank you for sharing!
Wow running pex in cold weather with tight turns and cable ties is no fun. 😀 Well done! I’m wondering if the last brass ring was out of round or bent at the factory. Do the manifold instructions say to use Teflon tape on the pex>manifold connections? The brass nuts look like compression fittings, which don’t rely on the pipe thread for making the connection water tight. Thx! Eric.
hmmm, a bit different how you would do floor heating in Poland, but we are talking about different temperatures in the winter
Fantastic job. This house is going to be amazing
Amazing team, that is going to be nice and cozy in the winter.
Love your videos! Such a big project you are doing! ❤❤❤
Underfloor heating in a place that grows oranges seems an overkill but it will be lovely warm and toasty in there, you could have even done one of those interior walls for some mass storage. Heat pump is a great way to produce hot water and cheap I have had a ground source for 20 years it works great. Solar evacuated tubes are also a cheap energy source but may not be too cosmetic in your area. Cheers job done.
It was -3C when we were making coffee the other morning … cold enough we say 😂
Knee pad pockets might be something you could sew onto to a couple of pairs of your favourite work trousers without too much hassle ( or get a friend with a sewing machine handy to do it) One more job you can do without!
Good luck with the floor, it will great tick off after the slab is down😊
Thanks for answering the question about electrical floor heating. We here in the Algarve have chosen electrical, for living room (approx. 30sqm) and bathroom (approx. 6sqm). It runs all day, thermostat is set to 21 degrees in living room, 23 in bathroom. The living room section draws about 3,500 Watts. We're still collecting more use data but normally runtime would be from November to March only. We complement in bathroom with infrared ceiling panel. So far we're quite happy, the response time is minutes which we like most.
Well planned and installed!
Heat pump should work well as in floor heating fluid is warm not hot!
No choice... Pressing on 🤣 Well done! 👍
I imagine that if it were a warm/hot sunny day, leaving the conduit outside for a time would have made it more fexible.
I’m not so sure that would help with the multilayer pipe. Regardless, there haven’t been many warm days recently … minus 3C to 12C- ish last week. Spring is just around the corner though ☀️
Hello
A little tip. There are springs that can be slipped over the tubes. This will help keep the bends in the tubes within tolerances and not damage the tube. Some of your bends look a bit very sharp.
Many greetings
Gerrit
This might sound weird, and this is not a swinger party invitation. I love you guys. You remind me so much of my husband and I. Fortunately, I have a very rare disease, so I’ve not been able to get my husband to move to Europe…but I think we would have a great time having drinks😁
Such great progress, I'm quite excited about it all. Well done both of you xx
Some new merch/clothes...very snappy! (Or, 'snazzy' as we'd say in the USA)
Can't wait until we need merch, too! 😍
The ending cracked me up 🤣🤣
I will not get tired of following your life...Why?
You are both intelligent. So I can learn a thing or two...😘
You guys are a great team, thanks enjoyed the video.
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LOL...great ending.....Guy your back must have ached after all that uncoiling
Great work you two!
I laughed when you said you have to say good bye, just luv your sense of humor and wish you both much success and can't wait for next video
You just may have presented the solution to heating the "tiny house" we will be renovating in the near future. We found some good information about retrofitting under-floor heating from below an existing floor (from the basement). We will be following your excellent example of thoroughly researching this possibility. It would not have occurred to us if we hadn't seen what you are doing. Thank you!
There's always something not fitting when you're doing a project, is kind of Murphy's Law. But well, the structural part was completed, let's hope everything works well after. Have a great weekend!