Raeesah Khan Saga: Who Is Lying?!
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024
- Are you one of those people who have been very confused by the whole Raessah-Khan-lying-in-parliament saga? If yes, you’ve come to the right place!!
In this 3 part video we do 1) a breakdown of the confusing timeline, including all the contradicting testimonies given by different parties 2) talk about how WP did their crisis management and 3) an analysis on who is telling the truth re Pritam vs Raeesah!
Would love to know everyone’s opinion so do leave a comment to let me know what you think!!
1:57 : PART 1 - Summary of Timeline
15:03 : PART 2 - WP's crisis management
21:33 : PART 3 - Who is telling the truth?
LOVED PART TWO. Anyone working in PR/ Media/ Crisis Management can read between the lines in how they've shaped the narrative. They most definitely are culpable. Also, how hard is it to use the word, "CONFESS!" / "CONFESS BY XXX"... that is as clear as it gets.
"Woke people are the worst."
Quite an on point statement.
Wok People cooking too much heat rather than the food itself
Love your analysis. I hope more Singaporeans can see beyond their biases, and be as woke and as objective as they claim themselves to be.
Kudos to xx and team for the video! It was long awaited and i clicked on it the moment I saw it! The team did a great job with coordinating the colours of the set and XX’s clothes, as well as the animations and visuals!
XX has proven to be the queen of analysis yet again and i agree with what she said! Her analysis is spot-on! Much as I would like to show support to wp, I felt that they let the matter slide for too long and did not clearly tell her to confess from the start as they were hoping the issue wouldn’t get rehashed in parliament but of cos it did. By giving her vague instructions, the onus was on her and she is responsible for whatever choice she makes, not them and this would make them less culpable. They had to protect party reputation and either option they chose was going to cost them. They thought they chose the lesser of 2 evils but it was the more costly one instead.
If you examine the motives of each side, you can clearly see why they acted the way they did.
Yes I agreed too however, I do not agree with her conclusion cos I think all parties contesting in elections will make grandiose promise that may not eventually come true and even people anyhow pay did the same, reflect on what they said before election and after and you will know why. I think it’s party neutral it’s the person and his or her quality of leadership. For example, we may think that foreign staff are more hardworking, willingly to put in more time and effort but Singaporeans too (not my biased opinion but from what I heard). It’s not so much where this person comes from, but from personality of this person and his or her attitude towards work.
Fully agreed that WP slide way too long and on the way down the slope cos they knew it since August and no excuse can bail that out no matter how they spin it now.
@@bobafett5757agree to a large extent: WP should had made raeesah khan declare she was lying 1.5 months from Aug 3, the day she first lie
@@MasterChiefSpartan Why 1.5 mths from Aug 3 ? It should immediately within 24hrs after she confessed on August 8 the entire party should march to Parliament Office and expose the lie.
@@bobafett5757 please note that Raesaah khan told them she is a sexual assault victim. As she was probably not in the best frame of mind during the first meeting with the 3 WP leaders, she needed some time to reconcile the matter and confess to the parliament and the public too. I think the WP leader was correct in giving her time but they gave her too much time and use ambiguous words. That’s their mistake.
Very clear summary of the timeline of events, probably the clearest version I have seen. Also, love your opinions in part 3. 👍👍👍
Very informative.
The WP leadership was not up to the standard. And might have been a partner in this
The part 3 really excellent and its logical.
she really said "let's end this year off with a bang"
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Fantastic summary of the timeline. Thank you for pointing out the illogical aspects of Pritam's narrative. People need to see the WP leaders for what they are: At best, ineffective leaders and communicators. At worst, intent on continuing a deception in parliament.
What a letdown from WP's leadership
XX is excellent in highlighting all the obvious many are realising now.
X X has used the example of a mother’s response to her child’s admission of plagiarism in exam to her privately and the reaction of the mother is in the same sort of situation and will just leave it fade lo. Neither admit nor continue lying. That’s the verdict.
@@pgobservers Yup XX used a perfect and well described layman term example which is logical.
Exactly what I thought! You will never tell someone - "I will not judge you if you choose to do the right thing." Really doesn't make sense at all!
i think why he said that was because , she alrdy told a lie and if she were to confess , it will make her look bad but pritam would not judge her for it
@@cynthiatanxinyi6375 yep I agree w u. I interpreted what he said as I wouldn’t judge you cos you lied cause confirm he know when she confess that she lied people will be angry at her and stuff, then maybe he said that to reassure her w “I will not judge you” idk that’s what I think. I’m not so clear w the whole saga.
@@totototottake9769 +1 and she’s an adult, not a child. So xx’s example isn’t rly comparing apple to apple. It’s a little like… orange to grapefruit? Hahaha well. She had the privilege of being an MP. She should have an analytical mind that one expects of an MP. If she claims she wasn’t in a bad state of mind / mentally unstable / crying and could handle the situation, why didn’t she clarify w PS if she didn’t fully unds what he meant lei?
Exactly in general you will not tell anyone that you will not judge them if they tell the truth cos theres no judgemet for that but when you direct someone to commit an offence or do bad stuff then you will assure with that motivating sentence of I will not judge you just to spur that someone cos I heard such dialogue in several movies.
@@bobafett5757 That goes to show how shallow and negative your mind was based on your interpretation. Hope you are not in any leadership role.Otherwise your men under you will suffer terribly.
Either way whoever's right, the public should not be confused about the outcome that a WP politician lied, and it was a politician that already had controversy, which was repeatedly backed by the party's judgement to keep her as a member of their party
are u edwin tong?
@@risd1071 that one my father
Ms Khan lied and whether in parliament or out of parliament, it's wrong. However, she is owning up to her mistake now. Look at her so called leaders! Still trying to push everything to her when it's so clear that they knew way before and has displayed no leadership, no integrity, no shame in pushing all the blame to her now. I am not siding with Ms Khan but I'm just saying that the WP leadership is so full of crap and when I hear the vice chairman talking! Wow! That's showing another level of incompetencies! He cannot even talk or articulate himself at all! How can he even be considered for a role as an MP in our parliament!!! No wonder PAP has been ruling Singapore forever. I'm not saying also I'm better than him but at least I know that I'm not qualified to be an MP
@@desmondchng8575
The 3 supreme leaders were sleeping or ????
Unbelievable
@@desmondchng8575With your experience, I think that you know there is nobody that is totally innocent in politics.
WP: “Why did you lie”
RK: “I was sexually assaulted”
WP: “why did you lie”
RK: “I have symptoms of dissociation”
COP: “why did you lie”
RK: “Pritam told me to”
Typical “blamer” behaviour everything also not her fault. Wouldn’t be surprised if she blame others for her mistake even if there’s no motive
COP: “Why should we believe you”
RK: “i don’t usually lie three times in a row so i am definitely telling the truth now”
Still doesn’t prove that the three leaders are acting fishy. You can discount what RK says but what the leaders have done and said so far is not how l would expect them to act if they were already ready to come clean and get her to do so.
well said
You forgot the party knew about the lie way back in August and did not expose it so its typical of a Masteeminders to keep on victimised the WhistleBlower
You nailed it, bravo!!
i don't even believe rk was really assaulted while she was studying overseas.
Good summary and analysis. Especially the conclusion. Lying should never be accepted or taken lightly in a parliamentary setting.
Thanks Xiaxue. The key word is "substantiate".
Some people, including me, have begin to suspect that the abuse she had experienced in Australia back in 2008 is also an untruth. Besides her words, if there's a witness, pls step forwaRD.
I am suspicious about that too until the facts come to light cos it takes a lot to believe at this moment.
@@bobafett5757 agree with your approach on this matter
@@MasterChiefSpartan But I believe her about that take lie to the grave on Aug 8 and after that she texted Nathan and Ms Loh cos thats dead giveaway cannot escape she is of sound mind all the way.
@@bobafett5757 I try my best to remain objective and examine both sides comments which is very hard to do.
@@MasterChiefSpartan Its not hard if you sink your thought deeper to conclude why they kept the lies slide for 3 months?
thank you XX for summarising the whole story for us and giving your well-thought out opinions on the story!
XX opinion is concrete and logical.
totally had me LOL-ing on several occasion. Xiaxue's comedic prowess is just super under-rated. Totally don't feel like a 38mins video.
But XX made lots of sense here and shes telling it straight.
Accountability is like kryptonite to these politicians
Their crisis management is fair at best. First wrong step is relying on luck & crossing fingers this issue will not be pursued.
If want throw RK under the bus, should have done at there & then. Wait till everything come out already too late. First step is always draw the line very clearly.
PS basically uses confusion till everybody give up watching, SL uses I can’t recall, I can’t remember. FM uses overwhelmed. These are veteran lawyer and counsellor leh, so easily forget things and overwhelmed.
Because she’s obviously a “valued” member there, her dad’s a millionaire leh. Hard to believe they don’t have financial influence on the party
FM's performance was a disaster
They probably learned this from watching American C-Span television channel where US administration cabinet secretaries can get away with many things by saying that I don’t recall, my memory is fuzzy, that person could had said that but i am not sure as it was a long meeting etc…. In testimony to US congress
@@Timholle that’s why there is a saying: Money makes the world go round
Thanks, XX! Pretty sums up everything my stance. Regardless, it is unfair for the groups like sexual assault survivors (non profit organisations) and police to an extent for such such lies. They are just doing their jobs.
Haha interesting perspective especially from the PR aspect but i have other thoughts too!
1. “I will not judge you”
I think the context is important here! if indeed all she did was to confess, then i think Pritam should have had been clearer. but if she had just shared about her traumatic experience, it can be difficult to “force” someone to share about the assault to whole sg, so he can only vaguely encourage by saying “take ownership and responsibility. i will not judge you”
if you say he can also tell her to confess without sharing, then same to raeesah - why share about the assault and not just the lie to the WP leaders? clearly she thinks it’s a mitigating factor that can get her off the hook. So the confess and assault must be shared together
using an analogy, if i told my mum “i scratched my teacher’s car” she would say “please tell the truth and own up to your mistake”. but if i say “i scratched my teacher’s car because he raped me in his office yesterday i was angry at him”, i would think the focus now becomes about the rape, not the scratch? and my mother’s concern would be “should i risk my daughter’s reputation by asking her to confess to the whole school?”
2. Culpability
Agree that WP could have pushed harder for her to tell the truth but i don’t think WP leaders are the only culpable ones here. Loh Peiying knew about the lie before Pritam Singh did but she did nothing about it. Worse, knowing that the leaders asked Raeesah to take it to the grave, she kept quiet as well? She should have escalated it, or bugged Raeesah to come clean, but she did not. Also, if party leaders were responsible for the actions of their MP then our PM very busy each time PAP member get into trouble leh. Unfair for WP that their actions and decisions are amplified
3. Take it to the grave
Like you said, Pritam is a smart guy. If he had told her so clearly to “take it to the grave”, then why cover up the lie by saying now that he told her to “take responsibility and ownership” so vague? might as well say “i told her to tell the truth, in those exact words”.
Also, in Raeesah’s text she said “They’ve agreed that i should take it to the grave”
They can only “agree” if that’s what Raeesah had proposed to do? So in her mind she already wanted to do that
4. Pritam going round in circles
Just my thoughts but i don’t think Pritam was being difficult by clarifying on the definition because that was literally what Edwin Tong was catching him on? And Edwin also said during the hearing that his questions were “designed” in a certain way.. (implied: to trap his ass lol).
Ok true makes sense thanks for sharing another perspective
1. “ I scratched my teacher’s car coz he raped me...” doesn’t hv the same meaning or give the mother the same feeling with “I lied to the parliament coz I was raped in the past” as the parliament did nothing to her. The mother can give her a bit of time to stay calm and later advise her to confess, but should not let her keep repeating her lie until someone finds out as being a mother, she should understand the importance of being truthful to the parliament and the public. A lie can not be covered by another lie.
2. Put yourself in LPY’s shoes, who devoted all her youth and time to work and support WP, who trusted PS as a good leader and believed in all his actions and decisions, what would you do? Who are you to bug RK to come clean if you trust that the senior leaders hv the reason to advise RK to keep the narrative or they just buy her a bit of time before coming clean??? LPY was so disappointed and felt helpless when she was notified by ET about the press conference by WP happening at the same time when she was with the COP. “Ms Loh said she was scared for Ms Khan when she found out the then MP had lied again in Parliament on Oct 4. She said she then advised Ms Khan to tell the truth to the whole WP central executive committee (CEC), which would necessitate the information becoming public eventually.” - is that not enough? Then what else can you do?
3. You asked your teammate to take responsibility and ownership when you knew about her trauma (being raped) - which was very hurtful to mention but she did share to you and seek for your advice; when you knew she may have been suffered by mental disorder; when you knew the importance of being truthful to the public than anyone else; would you call yourself as a team leader??? Yes, it was her fault. The person who had to take responsibility is herself. But giving her a clear advice and guidance or even ordering her to come clean is not your responsibility? Then who else? “You” is not only PS, but also the other leaders.
4. Totally agree with XX about how good WP leaders turned the tables. They were being bullied by COP (PAP indirectly), were put ET’s words in their mouths and were so cool, so charismatic even being under pressure??? If you did nothing wrong and you didn’t feel guilty, you wouldn’t need 9hrs to answer yes or no questions. Another good point from XX, why the other two leaders let PS handle this matter himself??? They did not feel something wrong since PS did not order RK to come clean sooner? Then they are totally not qualified to be WP leaders who should take the right actions than any of PAP leaders to show how better they are compared to any of PAP leaders and to be the true/genuine competitors of PAP.
not to mention ET is rude for for interrupting PS on so many occasion
U just got urself a new subscriber, ur humorous and at the same time very logical. Thanks for doing up the timeline it sheds light to this whole lengthy saga, kudos for the effort!
I sort of feel that WP indeed does not give Raeesha clear instruction to continue lying but they just wish to draw a line. Cover or confess both will cause damages to WP. WP was helpless that Raeesha lied in Parliament thus the next best option is to draw a line and let Raeesha make the decision herself. Be accountable for her own action. *personal view
As leaders of the opposition, PS, Sylvia, Faisal must make a decision on the course of action to take when something goes wrong. Letting Raeesha “make her own decision” is not what leaders do especially when the reputation of the party is at stake. If they really did that, they are not fit to be leaders.
Many now feel what you feel after RK strong and consistent 2nd hearings testimony.
@@nchthomas Exactly . LHL and senior PAP leaders please take note too.
Can such leaders rule Spore?
We would be eaten up by our enemies. They did not act at all?
Anyway it certainly looks like they are not that innocent
@@rslin4888 Knowing it for many months and not exposing it until got caught and thats not innocent and they are done.
To point 7… they could have cared at the beginning; but they’re probably done with her BS and are damn pissed off with her now.
They asked for it and they got it.
If Raeesah’s script was submitted a week before the session instead of the day before, perhaps things would’ve unfolded a lot differently.
Very informative, well-researched and entertaining content. You’re another level in term of content creator 👍🏿
Well researched
XX is really excellent in highligting the truth and she got almost all right
Does Vice Chairman gets a higher pay? What is the role of WP Vice Chairman? As MP, salary is $16K pm x 12 mths is $200K p.a. Faisal Manap has been MP for 11 years. So far, $200K x 11 years =$2.2 MILLIONS !!
yassss i have been waiting for this instead of watching the full hearing
Yay a new video! I love it a Christmas gift from my favorite influencer! Your OLDEST fan in the USA! You look great! Have A Happy New Year! 🐯🐯🐯🐯🐯🐯❄❄🎄🎄🎄🎄🤶🤶🎅🎅❤❤
Yishun minding its own business also can kena jab by XX 😂😂😂
This is Sengkang saga lah.
Finally, i really thot you would never do this video. U had us waited for a long time. Love it. Kudos to you and your power team 👏
Great video! WP (the best of opposition) is a disgrace to SG politics. Imagine the rest of the opposition.
PAP struggles to find good talents, what more opposition. Problem is, imagine what it will be like under the ‘ownself check ownself’ governance?? Eg Allianz - Income acquisition… we voters should try to discern which opposition members should be given a chance to speak on behalf of the people.
Good job and Thanks for the video, Xiaxue.👍
I feel that in this entire saga, RK (being the owner of the lie) has the CLEAREST motive to continue defending her lie and even if her reputation is already tarnished, dragging the party down CAN make herself less culpable in COP, of ACTUAL punishments she can receive as a result of the COP findings…
Also, consider this scenario - that PS could’ve meant this in fuller context, that “even though you lied in the first place - I will not judge you - if you tell the truth now” but he didn’t have the chance to make himself clear during COP🤔
And to be honest, in most workplace setting, handling cases when it comes to sensitive topics like ‘sexual assault’ ‘mental well-being’, it’s tricky and takes time to manage it well cos’ any call you make can end up to be insensitive….. so in WP’s case, it really isn’t surprising that they don’t press on RK to act fast, given her influential family background lol
Lastly.. not sure if we can even trust RK’s recollection of all the discussions that happened with senior leadership because she could have been selectively hearing to words/phrases that align with her agenda/narrative (I.e continue lying)
What you said does make sense too
My thoughts exactly. At the end of the day, they did tell her to confess at the beginning (both RK and PS confirmed this). What proceeded later on may signal a lack of procedural guidelines within the party but is in my opinion, very far from being culpable to the covering up of a lie
Are you aware RK is married and her husband knew about the lie and the assault long before anyone so why is the party so hung up to ask her to tell her parents when her pillar of life support is her husband so that make no sense to sit on the lie for 3 months.
@@bobafett5757 my thoughts are that, her husband knowing does not mean her parents don’t need to know?
Also, does that mean that her husband is culpable of being a “silent accomplice”, since he knows about her lying in parliament and did not encourage her to quickly correct her lie?
@@winkanono Her husband is not inside a political world and not representing the resident so its immaterial just like what been said by Jamus and by her telling her parents is a personal choice of her to discuss with her husband and it doesnt carry any weight loss to the lies the party knew all along and in fact RK has confessed they did not advise her that August as she messaged Ms Loh and Nathan about lie to the grave in August.
I don't know Singaporean celebs but when you did the Markle video, I was hoping you'd do more! That trainwreck is still going on! Loved it!
FAISAL MANAP, WP Vice Chairman
$16K pm x 12 =$200,000 pa.
He's MP since 2011 till now, 11 years. So far, $200,000 x 11years =$2.2 million.!!
My conclusion is the same as yours! I also felt that she did not have to lie to bring her agenda across. Sensitivity training for the police is actually a good suggestion.
my own opinion about Pritam is that... He's the kind of person you would like to hire (he's really very competent in my opinion) but he's not the kind of boss you would like to have when you get into trouble. I feel like he really left RK to deal with the mess on her own. And I know many ppl said that she should deal with the mess on her own coz she's an adult who should know better. but she's clearly just not ready for all of this. They really could have helped her with her confession much earlier if they had intention of confessing the lie, so yes, I think you're right that they had intended and hoped very much that the lie wouldn't have been exposed. They were taking a wait-and-see approach.
Anyway, I think sensitivity training is a good suggestion and I'm sad that it got side-tracked just because RK chose to lie to get her point across! 😭
Agree with you that he is good to work on his own portfolio and has to be a subordinate and can never be a Leader or a Boss cos he is really a bad communicator and dreadful decision maker for those working under his wings.
@@bobafett5757 maybe not used to his new role yet. 😅
@@mamemo359 But certainly so used get paid higher as a Leader than the subordinates 🤣
Thks for the summary n timeline. The sequence of events help create proper context. So much better than random videos showing only a small part of what happened, so as to push their respective agendas .
XX I am very impressed with your summary and commentaries in Part 3!!
Kudos to you XX!!
Yup XX nailed down the Part 3 with gutso and precision.
She nailed it
@@rslin4888 She nailed it with Sledgehammer.
@@bobafett5757
You are perfectly right
Thank you XX.
Good timeline.
Now I know 🤭
Keep up the good work!!!
But hopefully, this is the first and last COP ever coz Singapore can't afford this especially during the most trying Covid-19 times.
In this ugly saga, there is simply no winners
Every Singaporean is a loser.
Wishing you and yours a v happy New Year 2022 👍
Stay safe and healthy.
*Salute Xiaxue on this brilliant and on point commentaries that I fully agreed on especially on that part 3 analysis and Xiaxue personal belief is exactly the same as mine that she was given a directive to continue with the lie so as to not damaging the party image but above all its obvious that she is not an individual party member but belongs to a group party who was desperately seeking for guidance and her testimony seems clear that shes not appropriately led and guided and also not immediately corrected ethically by the party who knew about the lies but instead sat on it for a long 3 months without reporting it while was given a skewed and indefinite directives and clearly I agreed with Xiaxue that both men seem hypocrite for blatantly exposing the nature of that assault on a public hearings and thats so disrespectful cos there is no way they can be claimed to be caring but yet insidiously cruel to use that word of action that has traumatised her as a vicitm and they both possibly know very well why they used it several times in that hearings if not for some kind of motives*
Love your analysis. Factual and unbiased
Me love too XX is unbiased and very factual.
Love everything. so entertaining and attracted to her talking. And feel like she's so pretty all of a sudden.
Yes, her intelligence and in-depth, thorough understanding of these hearings and episodes made Xiaxue a very attractive and charming person. I am quite surprised too
Xiaxue, why you omit the fact that Pritam Singh emailed all the WPs on Oct 1 before October sitting for them to need to account and substantiate what they say in parliament?
A Bing search revealed that the BT reported this important fact.
Why didnt he emailed it in August after RK confessed ?
thank god and you for the summary 🤣✨
As a strong PAP supporter, I do agree that the WP leaders are indeed fully guilty based on the evidence. But honestly as what Xiaxue herself said on her Point 8, I myself will consider doing the exact same thing so I don't really blame them.
I mean, come on lah. Your subordinate drag you into this kind of shit liao, most normal people will pray hard hard that nothing bad happens to them as the boss. It is very normal, very human. Then now that it has been uncovered, unfortunate for them loh. But totally understandable.
thats where the WP leaders were really naive and lacking foresight.. who is the minister in charge of SPF..its Shamugam leh..Everyoneou knows he is not one to take an accusation lightly. So if PS and WP leaders had the foresight, they would have known that any attempts to delay or cover up will not work.
@@jasonchua9112 Your subordinate screwed up, but there is a tiny chance that the other department might screw up too and not notice. Maybe, maybe not. I think the pray hard hard method of resolving such problems is quite understandable lah.
@@John_Smith_86
Can they rule Spore with this kind of foresight?
@@rslin4888 Of course can be done lah. Duh.
@@John_Smith_86
Done what? Done us in?
👍👍Very well said. Very sensible and logical comments. Bravo to her and the responsible and capable party that she supports.
Right on point xx. This WP leaders are just a bunch of hypocrites! No integrity whatsoever! How can we ever trust this people to represent us Singaporeans!
Well said. Agree
the delay to confess the lie certainly makes the wp look bad. however, rk cannot be trusted ... a bit ting tong
why lie about being present in police station when she can just say someone related the account to her and she believes said someone..
i also don't believe pritam would be so stupid as to tell her lie all the way ie " take it to the grave"
"I will not judge you"
Based on the context, could this phrase also mean "by telling the truth, your fucking lie would probably drag WP thru the mud, and fucking throw all our hard work out the door...When that happens, I would not judge you for doing this to the party"?
Anyway, agree "i will not judge you" is vague. But I keep wondering why RK never bothered to clarify on the spot? Why would she decide to leave things vague and unclarified? Unless she fears that by clarifying she will hear what she doesn't want to hear?
What is there for RK to clarify on that statement I will not judge you when she claimed being told to take lie to the grave and isnt that crystal clear enough ?
I dont think the WP leaders are innocent
@@bobafett5757 a relevant question might be this: if it is true that the instructions were clear, why would she send an SOS text to clarify what she claims was a clear set of instruction? That’s what I found personally puzzling, assuming that her testimony is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
@@BenGohsTo You hit the jackpot for common sense on that relevant question just watch that clip when she was pressed hard questioning by Shan she was subtly shaken and possibly about to speak the truth but she remembered ro be loyal to her party member as promised to continue lying therefore she texted her leader who refused to reply hence in that split second she blurted to lie again and as I am an expert in reading body language and analysing speech tone and the entire timeline she is telling the truth about taking lie to the grave as told on August 8 cos she didnt want to bring her party down and ask yourself why wasnt there any reaction on PS face when Shan looked him in the eyes before he finally asked RK to confirm and then PS just looked down cos Shan already knew that RK has been lying since Aug so go watch that 3 mins clip at govsg youtube.
"Take ownership and responsibility. I will not judge you." This obviously means for her to admit to the lie. Won't judge you for this lie if you do the right thing to admit it.
How come XX's summary omit the 1 Oct event where PS sent to all MPs the email to warn them the consequences of lying in parliament ? Eh XX you kelong leh .
@@scgoh8395 Whats the point email this and that in Oct when should have done so in August when RK confessed so what kind of excuse is this ?
But they disappeared for a long time.
Defy common sense.
Doesn't look convincing
Pritam kept saying he waiting for Raeesah to tell her parents. YET Pritam nor Slyvia &Faisal, none of them ever follow up to ask whether Raeesah had told her parents. Any written Proof or message to substantiate that he gave her this order? Raeesah denied that such instructions been given to her by Pritam.
They said they cared about her health and mental state thats why told her to tell her parents first but never ever follow up after that in Aug until Nov and they dont have any text or written proof on them and even RK denied that.
Exactly precisely there is no written proof
I must admit this is the first time I'm watching your video. That's because you struck me as looking remarkably like the actress, Joan Collins. I'm not from S'pore but I do take an interest in what's going on there. Your comments on the Raeesah Khan/WP's fiasco is spot on. I trust RK's words (post admission of parliamentary lie) more than Pritam's desperate attempts now to save his own skin. From the investigations now ongoing, PS comes across as a much bigger liar to me. But he'll be found out - and he knows that! That's why he keeps pulling wool over your eyes to divert your attention e.g. your analogy "Have you eaten?" Ans: Breakfast, lunch, dinner or supper? Do I count beverages too - water, juice, alcohol? If alcohol - beer, wine or spirit? WTF - get a move on and just answer the question so that viewers don't have to spend 9 hours listening to your crap.
Btw, I like the "siowtingtong" comment. Haven't heard of this word for decades. My long deceased grandma used to say that.
I couldnt disagree any bit with you and your comments are on point with every thought I have by the way I think XX looks remarkably more like Farrah Fawcett than Joan Collins and the facts that she has major work done to her features and its worth every penny.
I'm from Texas but I love watching drama unfold 👀
Howdy
Nothing compare to the drama of us politics
@@manyue2003 precisely
Thank you for summary because I have no idea what is going on and I’m afraid to ask at this point.
The timeline matters a lot
Three months seemed like a long time but MPs meet only once a month.
RK did not attend the September parliament stting because she got shingles.
She had another month's time to think things through.
She chose to repeat her lies during the October sitting.
She dug her own grave.
No use trying to undermine the opposition party's years of hard work.
Wow u reposted again.
Hi xiaxue! I love your opinion on this really make me see a bigger picture on things 😹
Disagree that she (RK) has no motive.
Xiaxue, do note that Pritam has already made known to RK quite early that she will go to the Committee of Privileges. Obviously she knows what this mean.
The motive for her to bring the party down or lie further and put blame on the 3 leaders would be to decrease her culpability cos that would mean she will receive a lighter sentence/judgement.
You were saying that confessing did not help with her reputation - so precisely this was why she didn't confess.
The issue about "i did not judge you", "up to you" etc
it is precisely up to her. The content of her speech is RK's own to bear. It is also her responsibility of her own to craft the speech, decide what to say, when to say. Why, as an adult she needs to be guided when pre-election she has already spear-headed movements like the Reyna movement? This individual definitely knows how to take initiative in things. Why does she suddenly recede and concede the responsibility of her actions to someone else?
You are not listening to this vid obviously
@@rslin4888 people read the same exact holy text and can interpret it in different ways and establish their own doctrine that is significantly different than others and create their own denomination. What about politics ?
@@MasterChiefSpartan
Talk like this is tantamount to not talking at all.
Pritam did nothing from August - October. That’s concerning
Way more disturbing cos everyone can smell it.
@@MasterChiefSpartan no reason not to send a simple email or text message to Raeesah
@@MasterChiefSpartan What a lame and lazzy excuse for 3 months not even a single day have a time to follow up with RK ? Are u aware during that 3 months he was paid monthly high salary as a Leader and let say if any mth his salary not paid properly as a Leader or not paid at all so how he follow up and keep checking and checking for an answer right ?
@@MasterChiefSpartan why would he use that ? That just shows he’s an incompetent leader and MP
@@MasterChiefSpartan True but when already out of that hot water then be man enough to face the cold water judgement and sentence so its balance.
*Each WP MP gets $16K pm x 12 =$200,000 p.a.
*WP Leader Pritam gets double,
$32K pm x12
=$400,000 p.a.
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You forgot to mention that the 3 leaders brought forward the press conference on 2 Dec after finding out that COP for Ms Loh was gonna be held on the same day. This was really fishy
Xiaxue did mention it in this video.
The 2 Dec conference coinciding with COP has been mentioned twice- at 14:40 and 18:05 minutes (but without mentioning “brought forward”)
@@jaylen5360 Its way far too late to brought forward anything when damage done since August.
She did mention.
They knew the secret would be out after Miss Loh 's testimony
@@fiost1489 They knew Ms Loh will expose them for knowing the lie since August thats why they called for public conference to admit but its far too late just like a kid caught stealing chocolate bar that has been eaten but only can be found with the chocolate wrapper inside the kid pants and the kid breath smell of cocoa.
Okay sorry, usually agree with XX, but I think maybe the bias is seeping in. 'I will not judge you (for confessing)' can mean 'I will not judge you for confessing and fking the party over' what. I will not judge you for getting us in trouble if you come clean now. I think XX got quite a bit of blindspots in this case.
This is the first time I came across your channel and I agreed with what you said and also admired your intelligence and understanding of these whole episodes and saw that you have followed the long COP hearings hence I have liked, andsubscribed too
Thanks for the awesome summary and analysis ! Very interesting to find out the whole saga , too lazy to watch through all the hearings and readings haha
Actually, can someone explain why she needed to include the part about her being sexually assaulted when she was 18. Just say she lied about accompanying a friend that didnt exist la. Why got #metoo suddenly. Couldn't her confession in Parliament be something like :
"Hello Parliament, I lied. I didn't accompany anyone to the police station. I was actually present in a session held by a support group meant for survivors of sexual assault and, one of the survivors related this incident about her alleged experience with the police. But, I cannot verify or substantiate it because, confidentiality. Which means i shouldn't have shared it in the first place, silly me. But the main focus here is, I LIED and made the police look bad and incompetent based on heresay. Cos i wanna be like meghan markle."
She can leave people to speculate la why she was in the support group.
Even if she was pressed on why she was present in the support group, she can still say that she chooses not to disclose the reason. I mean, Sylvia managed to verify her presence at one of the sessions already, right. That's all we need to know. That she wasn't lying about that, at least.
Then WP leaders wouldn't have to wait one thousand years for her to speak to her family first, right?
Her husband knew about the lie and the assault long before so why did WP so hung up for her to tell her parents and that doesnt make sense.
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Husband is her partner who will be there to ease her burden of such A Huge Lie…family means parents n relative.
She is from a culture bringing up such topic is taboo n an embarrassment.
It is far worst than death.
So u need to know the culture of a race before making a comment.
@@shielatee302 You are not her husband so dont speak on behalf of him and respect every human culture cos people are people.
@@shielatee302 Your comments so disrespectful towards her husband that you dont know.
@@bobafett5757
Read my comment with understanding.
A husband is indeed a partner a friend a confidant…n many More
Respect???
It is respecting to let his wife keep lying n pulling many innocent lives into the wife saga.
I suggest u get off that made in China soapbox.
Good analysis with touch of humor. Nice!
LOL Raeesah khan’s cameo as pinocchio sENT ME💀💀💀
Cute
FINALLY!!!
This is a very good analysis and i agree most points.
Which part agreed the most ?
Also an important point you missed out in your video here is the talk about the sexual assault. A medical expert witness - forensic IMH psychiatrist Dr Christopher Cheok has been called in. These are the important points he made:
1) At all times from august (when she mentioned the lie), to the subsequent successive parliament proceedings when she double down the lie, up to the point of confession - she is of sound mind.
2) Her psychological trauma and traumatic symptoms she suffer has not reached the threshold of a psychiatric disorder.
3) She has full control of herself, i.e. whether she wants to lie or tell the truth, what words she want to use.
4) Making the wrong judgement does not mean a psychiatric disorder or mental problem. Mentally sound persons can always make the wrong judgements, lie etc.
4) Dr Cheok also mentioned that sexual assault like r4pe, is one of the most violent, intrusive and traumatic experience a person can experience
This means a few things.
a. RK knows what she is doing. She knows she is lying, she knows her severity of her lies.
b. Her psychological trauma did not reach the threshold of a psychiatric disorder in the face of it being "one of the most violent, intrusive and traumatic experience a person can experience" - what does it tell you about her sexual assault?
I think there is ABSOLUTE good reason to cast doubt about the sexual assault and its veracity here, did it even occur?
If assuming the sexual assault is even a lie, what does it then tell you, Xiaxue? Care to comment?
RK's speech in parliament had something to do with women's rights.
The point of RK's speech(peppered with lies) was about police questions which are deemed rude and insensitive to sexual assault victims. RK has later explained the reason for adding the lies.
The police questioning techniques and her lies are both parts of the anecdote, interconnected. It's unusual to pass over the part about the police questioning techniques and just focused on her lies alone.
It's even more unusual to question the opposition party leaders in such a manner as though they were the ones who have lied in parliament. That's absurd.
The C O P has in fact uncovered more potential untruths coming from RK.
The party sat on it for 3 mths without reporting it and thats what COP is after and about to uncovered and RK has been speaking the truth now.
I’m happy she has made this summary
Very detailed and helpful
Excellent analysis
I don’t judge people based on the mistakes they make, but what they choose to do after
Totally agreed!
Oct 4 SL met with RK and talked on the police contacting her and ask RK to get legal advise for it (can reference from SL's hearing Part A 1:03:36) and then followed by Oct 4 (11 pm) meeting.
I just subscribed... Happy New Year 2022. ... XX ...
Sister I love how unfiltered your videos are. Jia youuu! =D
pt 7 : erm its the COP that made the video public. so have to cut 50% from this point ?
Aiyo Singaporeans need to make decisions to choose people to rule Singapore - the right party PAP.
Raeesah lied on 3rd Aug. but confessed voluntarily on 7th August to Pritam, Miss LOH & Mr. NATHAN. And on 8th August she confessed to Slyvia, Faisal & Pritam too.
From 3rd to 7th August = 4 days. Raeesah held her lie for 4 days!! But the 3 WP leaders kept the lie for 3mths!! and up till today.
The police are already so busy and they had to deal with fake report/s. Imagine the amount of man hours going through months of reports looking for that particular case and officer.
Ask the party who knew the lies since August.
FBI and police in america be like: "first time?" *smirks*
@@project-th1rteen The court there will go hard on any false or fake report made.
If you are a stall assistant and you don't know or cannot do certain things, let the boss decide. If you are at a certain rank, let's say in the armed forces, you are a Colonel, you might not have authority or clearance to do certain things below a General, but you can certainly make a decision should it falls on you. As a minister of parliament, you can come tell me you don't know what to do, or the seniors holding you back on doing the right thing? You are not a stall assistant, you are an MP my God!
Could you do another video, where you point out all your points with video evidence? because I watched the full 9 hours and I don't see whatever you said was in the video. is there something I'm missing? I mean is a 9 hours video. I could have missed out on the parts you said. Thanks XX
That 9 hours video is a joke self dragging whimsical manner.
Raeesah even suggested to Pritam that there's another way, ie. Honesty. This shows she's sick & tired of lying, that's why she suggested to him that there's another way, ie. To tell the truth. Also she waited anxiously for Pritam's reply when she was questioned by Shamugam. No reply from Pritam, so on that same nite when they met, she suggested to him about Honesty.
I guess I’m unlike many others when I saw a 9 hour COP for PS I was stoked like listening to sibei interesting podcast or gonna watch a marvel movie hehe. Binge watched it on the same day
You are right. Much of it was very exciting to watch.
Yes, so interesting and better than any kung fu or cinema drama. I was engrossed
People see his true colors in that 9 hours so now cannot escape already forever people will be wary when dealing with this kind of character.
@@bobafett5757Please be impartial: all sides in the COP are not entirely clean.
@@MasterChiefSpartan I cannot be impartial to PS cos he reacted unprofessionally and evasive towards ET who has every right seeking his cooperation also are u aware that PS has been saying several times that RK was lying in that hearings when in fact RK never accused him of lying but merely said she was telling the truth so can you see the real mean character here ?
Everything happen for a reason
1. This case is so trivial but it’s investigated to this extent (there is a reason)
2. Why the Brazil correction case not being prosecuted (there is a reason)
3. What why the Ridout Road cases not being brought to court (there is a reason)
Finally why Rieaeasa tell lies ( there is no reason)
That’s my personal view.
Only one opposition MP and this is how messy our parliament can get. Imagine what might happen when you add more and more of them. You have fewer MPs to form your government and plenty of drama from the other side. Xiaxue will have plenty of videos to do. The moment Pritam said there was no significant harm done to the Police it’s already a clear sign he wasn’t in a hurry to correct it. Even when he said it was “urgent” to correct a lie in parliament.
Ps was insincere and insensitive to say that it has no impact on spf. Agree with ur view
That PS guy contradict himself several times and keep twisting all over.
We already wasted so much time with that few opposition MPs.
Imagine a house with more of them.
They will turn it into a circus.
Look at the amount of evasiveness and non transparency
@@pansylim6254 Yup that statement about no impact and downplaying investigation procedures are naive and childish.
@@bobafett5757 definitely insensitive,childish and irresponsible comment on his part but there are some of their supporters still say that it has no impact
I never trusted the opposition from day one. They will take the country to the grave, and then deny it. While denying it, they still can be arrogant and snobbish, like how Pritam behaved. In the end I do not wish for Singapore to be run by a bunch of decitful people. I vote for the PAP.
Yup we should be run by the professional and experienced PAP and not by other immature inexperienced incapable and irresponsible arrogant and no integrity Zombies.
I lost my " Trust&Confidence " in wp from a few yrs after they taken over while turning my blk in a mess
Lovely analysis of the whole events that had unfolded since August.
Took too long and looks fishy
Well done. I totally agreed with all your hypothesis in part III..
Xiaxue should do more expose, really love her analysis
OVER IS OVER FOR R.K.
Throw to the bin looking forward
something new in 2022
8:15 What made Shan bring up the topic? Was the topic still an active one, or Shan just happened to bright it up?
Finally!
Possible motive for Raeshaah dragging WP through the mud is to hopefully mitigate any future charges against her. Nothing to do with salvaging reputation.
She will be a hero if she can prove the true liar of this saga.
What does "it" refer to, in "take it to the grave"? 🤔
The unfortunate sexual assult she experienced?
She could have corrected the lie without ever having to reveal herself as a sexual assault victim to parliament, thereby "taking it to the grave"?
makes sense
*PS 9 hours hearings is really dreadful and theartically deceptive while Jamus 1 hour hearing is whimsical and operatically evasive and both are really bad in giving clear and direct testimony unlike their juniors like Raeesah Nathan and Ms Loh who speak better*
They are actually much smarter and know the traps set for them.
@@manyue2003 Like a hamster now inside that trap playing in a circle until they exhausted.
Exactly. Can’t believe supporters are impressed 😂these people are really hopeless. If they’ve nothing to hide, there’s really no point being evasive. Just answer the damn questions!
@@Timholle So true what you said if nothing to hide then why so very evasive and playing with vocab and syntax cos everyone can see the dirt now.
Why did Priam keep meeting with Raeesha in private, with no witnesses? These men never learn.
I think that was the whole point. Without any witnesses, it will be just he say vs she say. Easier to manipulate on what “exactly” happened and will be up to the judge to decide on who has more credibility.
Is this how a leader conduct his role?
@@rslin4888😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂uh
Hmmm I watched all the xxxxx hours of footage including the Psychiatrist... I think we need to send everyone for English Lessons (Queens English), very subjective dialog , very typical of Lawyers right ? Its a simple open nd shut case of a lie. Just judge on the lie and end it. COP had too many people to grill a 28 year old girl! Many other people in the COP (other than Edwin and the Chair) were asking irrelevant and repetitive questions ! My conclusion, Raeesah is OK, no mental health, she has resigned, end of story. Status Quo now, go fight the next election with WP. Let them go now !
Hmmm. I respectfully disagree. It is not "a simple open and shut case of a lie". If RK had been made by WP leadership to confess to the lie very much earlier, I might agree with you. But, it has now surfaced that WP leaders sat in complete silence while they knew one of their own blatantly lied to the entire country. Would we all have ever known she lied about this if Min Shan did not press RK that day in Parliament? I think not. Because it doesn't look like the WP leaders valued integrity much in this particular situation when it involved their own image. Will there be other instances in the future when they feel that it is okay to conceal embarrassing mistakes they make from the public eye?
So no, do not let them off the hook so easily. I want to know, and everyone who has the right to vote deserves to know. I have always been a WP supporter, but I also want to know who I am supporting and what set of values they stand for. Every politician needs to be held to the same standard. If WP cannot hold themselves to the same standards they expect from the PAP who they claim to want to keep in check, then I find it very difficult to respect them fully.
I really don’t understand how anyone could support them even after the AHTC and this saga. Are they that brainwashed that they can’t even think logically? WP is like their gods lol
Exactly ahtc saga also . They are brainwashed
So how about Ivan Lim case?? After one year Liao still no news lei? Like that can ah?? What a joke
@@LionRocks people like you are hopeless 😂
@@Timholle I'm hopeless?? Why?? Bcos I don't support PAPigs blindly like you?? Well..... Then maybe you can tell me any news on Ivan Lim as PROMISE by you AH LOOONG?? This is a promise hor... Promise to look into this matter... You mean after one near still Cant find anything?? So who do you think is hopeless?? 😂
@@LionRocks HAHA you do know everything you said are reflected back at yourself right? you’re a oppig who supports blindly too etc
Great summary. Very detailed. Thanks
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IMO, it is just a management style and Pritam first knee-jerk response to Ms Khan was to see the COP as reported before he changed his mind upon or after the "Mare's personal harrowed yarns. Your analysis lacks depth and independence and you are doing it for publicity only.
I disagree xia xue, sengkang dun vote for RK they vote WP is because of Jamus. Do u think WP sengkang will win with RK but without Jamus? WP win at sengkang is because of Jamus…
Just becos he used bombastic words. Lol. Everyone be like he must be smart becos he used bombastic words. Hahaha.
Essay writer
Agree
Uhh... I voted coz I liked the majority of the candidates, not so for RK but it comes in a package.... though now we have this lying issue at hand, I do think that she seems to be really working hard on the minority & less-heard issues in society and shouldn't be too overwhelmingly discredited.
As a Sengkanger for years (4 rounds of GE), the previous MP for my area had been letting my family down when we REALLY needed the help, that is in addition to many other neighbours' woes which were also unheard/delayed/etc.. when it comes to management of estate, there is improvement for the area under Teo Ser Luck previously... But not mine, until WP came in. Also, after Teo Ser Luck went back to private industry, SK MPs (PAP) didn't manage to continue his good efforts... Hence WP got the win.
He’s just someone who googles for synonyms in the thesaurus and people thinks he’s eloquent. Singaporeans command of English really CMI, easily impressed LOL