The Rings of Power Season 2 SDCC Trailer Reaction & Critical Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024
- Joe, and Wyatt are here to give their reactions and analysis of The Rings of Power Season 2 SDCC Trailer! Joe, Josh, and Wyatt are also the host of the weekly Wise Works Podcast on RUclips and Spotify. #reactionvideos #trailerreaction
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The first point you made about why the elfs discuss about the rings, The elven rings were not made by Sauron, therefore it does not necessarily have a direct link with him or his designs, and this happens both in the series, in the films, and in the books. Some eagles lived in Númenor, and were messengers of the Valar (the LOTR "gods", which I'm sure you don't know) so there is no harm in them appearing. The Balrog, although it is too early for him to appear, we do not really know what he is going to do and it still makes sense, since that Balrog hid in the depths after the fall of Morgoth.
The cavalry charge is not a copy of the Rohirrim charge, simply because they are cavalry in Middle-earth, they are not even men, they are elves, and there is nothing similar in both scenes. In addition, Elrond in the books comes to assist in the siege of Eregion, and it makes sense that he arrives with cavalry.
The only thing that doesn't make sense is that people like to see channels like this.
Thank you! I'm not even that deep into the lore but everything that they called 'nonsense' was just them not understanding basic stuff. Like it's not the showrunners fault if these guys didn't pay attention or have wrong information. I don't love this show but their reasons are just complete bs.
It's so annoying when people talk crap about something before they've even seen it. You guys don't have to watch the show. Just ignore it and move on to something else.
Exactly. From the first scene were trying to hate it so bad. I get points about some of the story but there’s this army of people hating something before even seeing it to be ‘in the gang’
Yawn.
Look their faces!!! They are watching some really good
But They must pretend that they don’t like just because is not 100% Tolkien?
There is nothing really good about the show. Accept perhaps the CGI. Not pretending, genuinely hate the pretentiousness of the actors and creators. DEI middle earth sucks. This show literally has less than 2% of what Tolkien wrote and intended. I would be much more happy if it even was 25%.
@@wiseworksstudio No, that's not the truth. if you say that this show has less than 2%, then you have absolutely no idea of the Professor's work.
You're the kind of RUclipsrs who don't like anything and think everything is bad. Everything is nonsense from your point of view, everything is confusing. Maybe that's because of you and not the show? I thought the first season was brilliant and I can hardly wait for the second season to start. I'm really sorry for you that you've lost your enjoyment of series. Anyone who only has negative things to say about such a brilliant trailer and insists on their view of "lore" and "canon" has not understood entertainment.
😂 are they paying you money? Season 1 was TRASH!
@@wiseworksstudio You are not to be taken seriously. I'm blocking your channel. Good-bye.
The first season was brilliant? BRILLIANT? They have changed everything from the books, this isn't LOTR, this isn't anything Tolkien ever written or had intention of writing. Sauron taking human form is an insult, Isildur is missing a brother and never came to Middle Earth before Numenor sunk, Galadriel was a sage, not a warrior, she got married to his husband well before anything that happens in Rings of Power. For season 2, Galadriel feels even stupider
@@alessandrogreco1803 Obviously many people can't read properly, although they always refer to the books. The series is an adaptation, not a literal translation of the books and I think it's phenomenally realized. If you don't like it, keep reading the books and everyone will be happy. I will enjoy the second season.
Buddy the first show is nothing BUT trash... brilliant? Come one xD You have no idea of entertainment and lore or canon if you are able to like this trash seriously. Its an insult to everything tolkien.
Lot of rambling. Next time create your own LOTR series then we can comment. These 2 idiots are so hard to please. 😂
I bet they would do a much better job that the 2 idiots making rings of trash.
Oh my god!!!! I never hated youtubers before i think I'll start today
cant believe i wasted minutes of my precious time
They are telling truth. Dont watch it if you arent prepare to hear facts xD
I don't get the hate. Everybody is on that hate train.
I read all the books and still can enjoy it even if it is not exactly canon. Its ridiculous what you guys already complaining about. It just a fucking trailer
Because is trash. Im astonoshing you actually like the trashy RoP.... most that love it havent read the original material. Otherwise makes no sense, because this show is a mess. From corcky dialogue, inaccurate lore, bad story line, unaccurate depiction of Elfs and Dwarfs, and excessive use of CGI. Im AMAZED someone can even like this thing... Everything they said is completely ON POINT.
Exactly. I can enjoy the books and equally enjoy the show as a different entity. Good grief, Shakespeare has been tweaked and changed for centuries!
@@Alejojojo6You’re talking bollocks and I’m sure I’ve read more if the Legendarium that you, pal.
The criticism is so silly. Sauron is a shape shifter. he changed his form. The elve's rings were forged separately. They were hidden from sauron. This series is fantastic. No movie ever goes along with the book entirely. And it's proNUNsiation, not proNOUNCEiation if we are going to be picky. Have you read the Silmarillion? And the Lord of the Rings movies and the Hobbit movies didnt even follow those books precisely, so where's the criticism there? Just irritating people.
You guys are scoffing at stuff that’s in the books? Just jumping on bandwagons.
Not even sure what you are trying to say here. Example?
The person is right, you were scoffing at everything, when the production value is second to none and there were many intriqueing aspects in this trailer for the tale within the second age... If you just want to hate because of content, be genuine about it.
The 3 rings that the elves have were not influenced by Sauron. They are not evil. This is not only in the books, but it's also in the movies
I agree with u guys 100% tom bombadil is his own master nothing in the world troubles him he like a care free sprite that sings the ring doesn't even have power over him casue tom is his own master
Worst reaction so far. They already went into this wanting to try bring it down before even watching, have no clue what they are saying, they just trying to find any excuse they can try make up, thumbs down
This post summarises everything about this reaction and critic
I was going to say that the three elven rings aren't corrupting, but Sauron had a hand in their creation in the show, so who the hell knows.
he just created the project, he wasn't there when they were created. He didn't touch them AT ALL. Big difference.
@@ultronemperor3525 He literally touched the mithril that all three of them were made from. He also had plenty of time to mess with the gemstones during the early tests.
@@Arnorian3320when he touched the materials, he didn't even know that he needed to create a ring. All that part was just trial and error. From the featture of season 2 it's clearly shown that he needs to be present during the actual creation of the rings. And he wasn't there for the creation of these three.
@@ultronemperor3525 It doesn't show anything of the kind. You're just assuming that. The point of my original comment that you took issue with, is that we can't know what the show has changed. They changed the circumstances of the creation of the elven rings, they changed the order they were made in comparison to the other Rings of Power, and they changed the entire timeline of the Second Age. Until we see the actual season, we have no idea what else they've changed.
Lord you really didn't pay much attention. Now because this is an adaption they are changes from print, and sure to be more changes. But some things have tied to written works.
Only Galadriel(and very likely Elrond) know that Halbrand was Sauron. No one else. When they report to Gil Galad, this is likely very early in the season (likely episode 1) this is where people would be the first to be told the truth of his true identity. And Galadriel is famous or infamous for her pride, so to admit she was deceived, would not be an easy admission for her. Elves are stubborn on a. scale that is hard to fathom. So she is telling it to her King first, her duty. So no they aren't acting like they don't know. They don't know. How can they know until they are told. That is utterly irrational. Communication is generally how knowledge is shared.
You state Galadriel tells everyone and you won't be deceived. Sorry but that is absolutely not how it works. Sauron isn't a man, he is isn't a dwarf, he isn't an elf. He is a celestial being. His mind, will and power are vastly more powerful then the people on middle Earth (Tom is the one real exception, not even Gandalf when both are at the full celestial power is equal to Sauron). Per Tolkien's texts, Galadriel is one of the most powerful Elves to have ever lived. And she might be the most powerful still alive at this time. Once she knows the truth at the end of the 2nd season and Sauron puts his will against hers, she is barely able to break free. This is not what most beings are going to be able to do. He could probably wear a neon sash that says I am Sauron and if he puts his mind to it very few people are going to even notice.
We hear about them (Elrond a couple elves) having fears that the rings will corrupt, thats all they are fears. That don't know. They aren't prescient, for christ sake. Anything at the early stages would just be fears and guesses. Elrond fears because Sauron wants to conquer that these rings might be part of the means of it. But at this point it's just conjecture, they would have no certain knowledge.
Now there is a voice over in the beginning where Galadriel talks about the use of rings being a means to bind people. But we don't know when this dialogue occurs. And as people who do watch films and tv and trailers, you are very aware that voice overs, don't necessarily occur over the events that are being shown in a trailer, just like you know scenes in a. trailer don't necessarily fall in chronological order.
While Galadriel at some point tells Elrond she doesn't believe thats the case for her's. She is correct per lore. The Elven rings are the only rings not directly touched by Sauron, and thus are free from his corruption. And on this show, Halbrand helped set up the creation of the elven rings, but he didn't actually have a direct hand in the creation. Thus I think it safe to say they are sticking with that part of the story. In story once they discover Sauron (after he helps create and give away the other rings and creates the one ring), once the elves learn of its creation, they don't use their rings just to be safe, but that is years and years later (so in the show probably a season or to down the line).
And you talk that this is just bringing up everything from Lord of the rings. You have it backwards.
Lord of the Rings does manage to end the threat of Sauron (that is unique to it), but in reality it's just a pale shadow of the much larger canvas of events that took place during multiple times in the 2nd age. And the second age events (the ones on the show gis condensing) are next to nothing compared to the scale and scope of the events of the first age. So really Lord of the Rings is an echo, of these events.
Now because they are condensing time, there are events that are separated by significant time that aren't going to have that time separation. But they are also going to cut a ton of material because of that condensed time. And frankly in makes rational sense. If you're spending half a billion on a series, you don't want to have to completely introduce all new characters for each seasons. With just 5 seasons on contract to be able to make, it would mean having to introduce new characters to populate the story and have them die off from either age or combat about every 3 episodes. I just can't see a show thinking an anthology series would be that worth that cost.
Galadriel per text stays away from Sauron, stays away from war. Sorry but not factual. Galadriel avoided most major conflicts against Morgoth in the first age, as she believed that unless the other Valar joined the conflict there was no hope. Key words, "most" not all. And once the War of Wrath was joined by the Valar who knows if Galadriel joined (I am guessing she didn't but its just a personal feeling no based on fact). That was what was holding her back. As of for the conflicts of the 2nd age. There is no passage that states Galadriel avoided battle or conflict. We know she sought out Sauron (many assume this is mentally, it's an assumption). We know she saw to the defensive of one of the ares she settled in during the 2nd age. In what manner, we don't know. We know that no force of Sauron was able to best, her save unless Sauron himself came fourth. As for the battles, very few names are actually given for the multitudes of people who are in them. So we can't say. We know a few small details about some of the battles, but there majority. No. We know she can and has fought, we know she has been in places to fit untold monsters and beast. But there is never any description of how she fights. There is the description of how she is when she fought against the forces of Feanor when they attack her's mother's people. But are the descriptions about physical ability are about strength of character. We don't know. Now Tolkien did use two character from various other mythologies for inspiration of Galadriel and both were both strong will and mystic but also great physical fighters. So who knows. But one thing is clear when looking at various notes and changes made before he died is that he keep expanding Galadriel's influence and standing. For a character that isn't mentioned much at all in this greater works.
Now it's true that in the books are different. But why the hell are you judging that as how it should be.
This is an adaption. Adaptions can be faithful and wildly different. Neither make the quality of the product good or bad. It's the execution which is what you judge material on. Not to mention that most of the material that this is based upon isn't a factual telling. Tolkien describes his work outside of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings as his Legendarium. The mythical tales that form the setting of the Events of the Lord of the Rings. Tolkien was very much aware that myths are not accurate historical records of the past. Hell he was also aware that historical records aren't factual tellings of the past. The appendix of Lord of the rings has deliberate differences in it to the events as shown in Lord of the Rings. Thus giving a perfect example of how history gets warped.
There is a film called Immortals (its not that good)which is vignettes of the mythology of the events surrounding Theseus. Its presented very much in the style of the myths themselves. If you were looking for a strict adaption of various events of the 2nd age. This is probably be what it would look like.
The idea that fleshing out a backstory about Gandalf is blasphemy is utter bullshit. Tolkien's talked about how he had yet to tell the earlier stories about Gandalf. His early history is mythology. Not history. And even that isn't told. With Star Wars in your example which rationally makes utterly no sense. You are comparing a mythology presented in tales, to material presented through the eyes of the events themselves.
I certainly hope as adults you can understand the difference.
And for heaven's sake I am utterly sure that both of you have enjoyed adaptions that are wildly different from the source material. Like any arthurian legend. Well almost none of them are close to the earliest tales. How about the Stories that are commonly referred to as the Grimm Fairy Tales. Well guess what we don't have mainstream versions of those that come close to the actual origin of the tales, and you can do this ad nauseam.
Now you might not like material. Thats perfectly fine. And I can certainly understand thinking, while I would do it this way, or would do it that way (thats normal) But saying something is bad or wrong because it's not the way you want a tale told is pretty damn irrational. And it really doesn't;t reflect how tales change in the telling.
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Lol, did you make an Iugh to an ent wife?
Well, these two are expecting some incels. That's why they are disappointed.
Y’all lame
This show is lame
Not as lame as Rings of Power xD
@@wiseworksstudioNo, you’re far worse. If you’re so hung up on lore, summarise the Children of Húrin for me.
Lol can’t even hide your hate for no reason
you are hater!!!!!
Thats a Good thing. You should be a hater too
season 2 cannot be more book accurate lmao, why bother watching if you dont like it before even starting it
Book accurate? Which book because they are nothing like the Silmarillion (which they dont have the rights too). Go read the book before saying its accurate. There is NOTHING accurate of that expensive trashy fanfic that is the Rings of Power.
@@Alejojojo6 season 2 literally has blue wizards and magic cults in rhun, Annatar and celebrimbor forging the rings in Eregion, dwarves becoming too greedy, doors of durin being built, faithfuls vs kingmen in Numenor, Pharazon taking the throne for himself, siege of Eregion, and characters like Cirdan, Tom Bombadil, Narvi, entwives. Cannot be more book accurate yes, from Silmarillion to unfinished tales (yes they don’t have the rights to them but they can ask for specifics on a case by case basis)
@@Nexyyy7 I wouldn't bother. I very much doubt they have read The Silmarillion. They probably don't know that it is mostly based on the first age and has very little regarding the second age (probably wouldn't even be able to answer if asked who is Turgon? or Maeglin? or Turin? or Thingol? or Melian? or Fingon? or Huor? or Tuor? etc.). I bet they also have no problem in the original trilogy with Aragorn being a reluctant king (or that he did not carry around the shards of Narsil everywhere he went, and having Andúril with him immediately after the Council of Elrond), Arwen replacing Glorfindel, Gimli being comic relief, Frodo telling Sam to go home, Faramir ordering the ring be taken to Gondor, the army of the dead at Minas Tirith, etc. I am not saying this makes the original trilogy bad, but liberties were definitely taken.
@@Nexyyy7 the 2 Blue wizard DONT appear in season 1 hahahaha wtf are you talking about. They specualted meteor Gandalf was one of the blue wizard. But he doesnt even come in the second age, nor falls from the sky, has abnesia etc they made a woman ruler of Numenor which isnt the case in this time/period the whole Pharazon ruling is because he takes the previous kings daughter to wife, the daughter never gets to ruleand there is not even 1 single ent wife... Sauron Never goes to Numenor as a man nor Galadriel jumps out of a ship. Galadriel isnt even remotely involved in the rings of Power creation and Mordor isnt created out of a volcano nor Elves protest because elves take their jobs lmao. Dont get me started with the Hobbits which shouldng even be there so WTF are you inventing hahaha🤡
Dropping every name in the book doesnt mean its good, nor its a good adaptation. Its beyond shitty. It has so many flaws we could be here for ever. Its ridiculous you try to defend it because it has eagles and Numeror is shown.... yeah but they didnt say "Elves steal our jobs" i can guarantee ypu that lol and men did not fly on them
@@Alejojojo6 are you stupid ?
Modern audiences who are enjoying this who haven't read the books don't know all the details you guy are talking about. Easy thing to do is..If you don't like it don't watch it. That's the only way this show will be canceled. The books will always be there to enjoy. That's why it's called an adaptation. Tolkien fans who hate this show are so close minded.
Nope. Our goal is to review this crap into the dirt in hopes that we can get others to lose interest and it gets canceled like the Acolyte just did. This is not a story for modern audiences. It is being made as a story for activism. It is disrespectful to the professor and to the millions of fans.
I think a lot of people are hung up with the idea that this show was suppose to based tip for tap off of Tolkiens works. As a huge fan of Tolkiens works when I realize this is merely an adaption into a new way to tell a story and not a direct interpretation of the books, out of place characters and events dont bother me. If I were to judge the show based off Tolkiens books then yes the show is trash but that would be judging the show by what it is not. This show has been very openly discussed of not tip for tap based off Tolkiens but merely an adaption (fan fiction). Some things that more so bothered me that I agree with yakl about the show were some of the dialog and how stagnant parts of the show were. I enjoyed your alls reaction and discussion about the trailer. I do hope that yall react to season 2, would be fun to see your all reactions even if yall don't have the same take as me lol.
Love your words here! We won’t be doing reactions of the episodes, but we will be downing reviews for each episode each week. Thanks!
Then dont sell it as an adaptation. Its not an adaptation because it isnt adapting anything really. Its like a parallel story in a parallel universe of the one Tolkien created with a total different rules buying into the prestige the books and Jackson movies created. That's definitely not what they wanted to do. they wanted to be seen as a continuity of the original movies and books. I cant believe you call yourself a HUGE FAN and love this mess and horrible destruction of the original material. But aside from adaptation, the storyline is a bad show. They break their own storyline multiple times. Its boring, stagnant and nonsensical at times. Then, they are supposed to have great dialogue which is extremely corcky and bad. And of top of everything, the CGI use is excessive, there is no soul to the product. Its just BAD.
Lots of bots in the comments lmao. Im with you guys. This show is just A MESS, a trash, an insult to Tolkien and everything he stood for. If Christopher or Tolkien were alive, they would go die again if they saw this monster Amazon has created.
Right!
@@Alejojojo6 So people disagree with you, then they must be bots? That’s news to me then!
People behind exhausted by the overblown hate are not bots. Grow up.