I have a railroad near me that does the exact same thing, diesels and all, except that they use older open window coaches. It's called the Reading and Northern Railroad and they operate steam and diesel excursions. I also have NS lines formerly Conrail, Reading, CNJ, LV right through my area. Maybe NS steam will hit Allentown, PA someday? Reading and Northern can't go through Allentown anymore, Reading T-1 2102 did in the 1980's when it was BM&R on off line excursions similar to what NS is doing now with Tennessee Valley (and Fort Wayne's NKP 765). 765 also ran excursions from NJ to Reading in July, 1988 and went through Allentown on track that was Conrail at the time and is now NS. I rode behind 765 in PA to Horseshoe Curve last year.
1. Back-up power in case something goes wrong with the steam loco so the train can still be moved. The rathole district is an extremely busy route and having a stranded train out on the main would be big $$$$$ lost. 2. Braking power - 630 is a 100 year old freight loco and while definately having enough pulling power her compressors can't recover fast enough for the demand of the air brakes on whats basically a 15 car modern streamliner. Plus the diesels dynamics brakes (which is what is roaring most of the time) are extremely helpful in controlling the train on the ratholes steep grades.
The use of diesels is used for several reasons, but the biggest one is simple! Insurance, by having the diesels for extra power and braking, helps keep the cost down on running the steam engine across the mainlines. Two weeks before this, they had 4 more passenger cars on the tail end and at one point I know they had some trouble with speedometer, which having the diesels helped keep track of the speed as well as helped the 630 along the grades especially out of Cincinnati, not sure if that steam engine could fully handle the grade by itself with 20 cars. They also used them on Sunday to push the steam engine above the 40 mph limit of which the steam engine was allowed to run because they were running several hours late and actually ended up changing crews about 10 miles from Cincinnati. It made chasing it really hard, but when it came by the steam engine was hardly working and you could hear those SD40-2's working as they moved the train along
+struck2soon 630 can handle the train by itself....but 630 is unable to do the whole roundtrip on a single load of coal and the two small tenders of water. Theres no where to get more coal along the line and taking on water from a truck or hydrant is very timely operation. So the diesels allow 630 to make the whole roundtrip without refueling. Also, depending on the grades, NS may require dynamic braking to prevent a runaway train, this is very common on lines in the mountains that have 1.5% or steeper grades. And lastly its for insurance. If 630 experiences an issue, which she has numerous times, they need to make sure the train can continue without blocking the mainline. It sucks to see and hear them, but unfortunately it's the only way you can see most steam on a class 1's mainline anymore.
stevelerro I agree with everything you said. All I am saying is sometimes these smaller locomotives require helpers when pulling long passenger trains (which are very heavy) and are going up steep grades.
No, in this case the diesels do not provide electrical power to the cars. There are a couple of generator cars in the consist for that purpose (including the last car on the train).
I know this was answered a year ago, but I thought I should add that freight locomotives can't provide power for the passenger cars. This is because they need to be equipped with a Head End Power unit or HEP, and unless they are to be used for passenger service, a diesel locomotive will not have it.
Too bad the don't take out the Southern pacific #1401...with the speeds they do with the 630 she would fit in fine...too bad they had to stuff and mount her in the Smithsonian, although that's what saved her.
tva429 16 cars would be getting a little heavy but, if you google search pics of 630 or 722 operating during the original Southern steam program, you'll regularly one of them pulling 8-14 car trains without diesels.
@@thestarlightalchemist7333 Quick note, this comment isn't meant to be interpreted as a mean comment, just **_REALLY_** overloaded with a great deal of sarcasm. Now then, on with the comment. I could be a smart aleck and tell you to take your own advice given that the diesels seen in this video are *freight* diesels, so they therefore provide no electrical power to the consist, and that that job is handled by generator cars like the last car in the consist in this video as well as the undercarriage mounted generators on the cars that were in the consist that weren't equipped with HEP. But I won't do that. Rather, I'll just tell you that the diesels seen in this video are *freight* diesels, so they therefore provide no electrical power to the consist, and that that job is handled by generator cars like the last car in the consist in this video as well as the undercarriage mounted generators on the cars that were in the consist that weren't equipped with HEP.
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One of the more relaxing things I do is watch your videos. I own one but hope to buy more.
its so endearing to see this little engine thundering down the mainline
That's because this is Thomas as an American tender engine
Very nice! Thanks for posting it.
That whistle, and nice hand. I'm in love. Gorgeous shots, well done.
Greetings from Chile ... Very nice job.
Congratulations !
I have a railroad near me that does the exact same thing, diesels and all, except that they use older open window coaches. It's called the Reading and Northern Railroad and they operate steam and diesel excursions. I also have NS lines formerly Conrail, Reading, CNJ, LV right through my area. Maybe NS steam will hit Allentown, PA someday? Reading and Northern can't go through Allentown anymore, Reading T-1 2102 did in the 1980's when it was BM&R on off line excursions similar to what NS is doing now with Tennessee Valley (and Fort Wayne's NKP 765). 765 also ran excursions from NJ to Reading in July, 1988 and went through Allentown on track that was Conrail at the time and is now NS. I rode behind 765 in PA to Horseshoe Curve last year.
Why can't R&N go through Allentown anymore? I heard 2102 was being restored back to service, but nothing yet.
Robert Krasinski you are lucky
I rode that train in car 7 on the Saturday trip to Oneida. The last time I saw the scenery before that on the Rathole was from a boxcar.
I just realized that why the whistle sounds lower pitch than it does today is because it was fitted on in the other direction. Strange.
They're noisy and smelly but they take me back to my youth. Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful thanks for sharing
Ok thank you for your reply
Ironically the video time is 6:11 but the engine that’s running is 630
Beautiful! heavy Iron! Live, steam! :)
The video seemed to be a bit too high.
funny the length of the video is 611
Thunder on 630, thunder on.
Why the two diesels? Surely that train is well within the capability of that loco?
you can hear in almost every shot why they're there. Those locomotives definitely are not idling.
1. Back-up power in case something goes wrong with the steam loco so the train can still be moved. The rathole district is an extremely busy route and having a stranded train out on the main would be big $$$$$ lost.
2. Braking power - 630 is a 100 year old freight loco and while definately having enough pulling power her compressors can't recover fast enough for the demand of the air brakes on whats basically a 15 car modern streamliner. Plus the diesels dynamics brakes (which is what is roaring most of the time) are extremely helpful in controlling the train on the ratholes steep grades.
The use of diesels is used for several reasons, but the biggest one is simple! Insurance, by having the diesels for extra power and braking, helps keep the cost down on running the steam engine across the mainlines. Two weeks before this, they had 4 more passenger cars on the tail end and at one point I know they had some trouble with speedometer, which having the diesels helped keep track of the speed as well as helped the 630 along the grades especially out of Cincinnati, not sure if that steam engine could fully handle the grade by itself with 20 cars. They also used them on Sunday to push the steam engine above the 40 mph limit of which the steam engine was allowed to run because they were running several hours late and actually ended up changing crews about 10 miles from Cincinnati. It made chasing it really hard, but when it came by the steam engine was hardly working and you could hear those SD40-2's working as they moved the train along
+struck2soon 630 can handle the train by itself....but 630 is unable to do the whole roundtrip on a single load of coal and the two small tenders of water. Theres no where to get more coal along the line and taking on water from a truck or hydrant is very timely operation. So the diesels allow 630 to make the whole roundtrip without refueling. Also, depending on the grades, NS may require dynamic braking to prevent a runaway train, this is very common on lines in the mountains that have 1.5% or steeper grades. And lastly its for insurance. If 630 experiences an issue, which she has numerous times, they need to make sure the train can continue without blocking the mainline. It sucks to see and hear them, but unfortunately it's the only way you can see most steam on a class 1's mainline anymore.
stevelerro I agree with everything you said. All I am saying is sometimes these smaller locomotives require helpers when pulling long passenger trains (which are very heavy) and are going up steep grades.
A 1551/630 doubleheader on Norfolk Southern rails would be awesome! Don't forget 4501 too!
Aren't the diesels also for electrical power to the passenger cars.
No, in this case the diesels do not provide electrical power to the cars. There are a couple of generator cars in the consist for that purpose (including the last car on the train).
I know this was answered a year ago, but I thought I should add that freight locomotives can't provide power for the passenger cars. This is because they need to be equipped with a Head End Power unit or HEP, and unless they are to be used for passenger service, a diesel locomotive will not have it.
The video seemed to be too high.
Too high?
The whistle sounds just like 3751's whistle
This might be a stupid question, I don't understand the the 2 diesels behind the steamer?
Southern Railway 2-8-0 Consolidation locomotive 630.
Where was the first shot taken?
Near Waynesburg
Kentucky?
Too bad the don't take out the Southern pacific #1401...with the speeds they do with the 630 she would fit in fine...too bad they had to stuff and mount her in the Smithsonian, although that's what saved her.
Bud, a little south boy
16 cars is beyond 630's capacity, 630 is only good for 8-10 cars, by herself.
tva429 16 cars would be getting a little heavy but, if you google search pics of 630 or 722 operating during the original Southern steam program, you'll regularly one of them pulling 8-14 car trains without diesels.
Fake train with a diesel locomotive!
No, diesels are for coach heating and dynamic braking only. Think before you speak, idiot
@@thestarlightalchemist7333 Quick note, this comment isn't meant to be interpreted as a mean comment, just **_REALLY_** overloaded with a great deal of sarcasm. Now then, on with the comment.
I could be a smart aleck and tell you to take your own advice given that the diesels seen in this video are *freight* diesels, so they therefore provide no electrical power to the consist, and that that job is handled by generator cars like the last car in the consist in this video as well as the undercarriage mounted generators on the cars that were in the consist that weren't equipped with HEP.
But I won't do that.
Rather, I'll just tell you that the diesels seen in this video are *freight* diesels, so they therefore provide no electrical power to the consist, and that that job is handled by generator cars like the last car in the consist in this video as well as the undercarriage mounted generators on the cars that were in the consist that weren't equipped with HEP.
Whistle is a central of Georgia 6 chime
CJ Holden Yep.