it been one year since, made made a synck tack for the pocket operators and volcas with the kick track , and i use it as a midi controller for my microganny and microfrek
Yep - you could use the out jack as MIDI instead of Trig. With 0-Coast specifically that could then cover CV, Gate (and clock I think), therefore freeing up the CV & Gate connections.
They have different uses. The oplab has CV & Gate connections for controlling modular synths etc, whereas the line gives you audio i/o instead. Both have MIDI, Trigger or PO Sync options. It's a case of whether you need audio i/o or control voltage.
@@soundtechnology why can't they make a model that does all those things? Like, add a switch or two for the ports on the right side in addition to the one on the left, so you can choose without having to completely swap modules. Also, it'd be neat if they included a backplate that let you have access to the switches without having to completely remove said plate first.
As a composer of over 10 years, I think it's fun to look at how the synth community is progressing very, very slowly compared to everyone else. It's essentially the same technology as 40 years ago, with minor improvements.
Compared to what, exactly? The technology is certainly being changed and improved quite drastically, but the fundamentals stay the same because they already work. Comparable to an acoustic guitar or a violin which hasn't really changed at all the last 40 years.
The thing I’m struggling with is using oplab to control both two gears(in my case it is erebus and werkstadt-02 via cv and midi at te same track. Seems to be not possible, can you check it too please? It comes out with an interferences on the midi side, where midi device is taking cv input as well as a chosen track(f.e. Bass)…😢
You should be able to control both at the same time. The module track on OP-Z is used for CV by default. The CV & Gate output only respond to MIDI channel 14 from OP-Z. If you want to control both at the same time, you need to have at least 1 track set to channel 14 (for cv) and the other set to the same channel as your MIDI device. As an example - you could use the module track (set to MIDI channel 14) to send control voltage to one device, and the bass track with the channel set to that of your MIDI gear - lets say channel 5. MIDI settings can be edited using the OP-Z app, or by editing the .json config file while connected to your computer. This is explained further in the manual for both oplab and OP-Z: teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/midi teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/modules/oplab Hope this helps!
I don't know much about the Yamaha P-90, but I assume you can take MIDI out (5pin connector) from the P-90 and connect to MIDI in on oplab. In this configuration, you can use the P-90 to play the sounds on the OP-Z. If you take the oplab MIDI out and plug it to the P-90 MIDI in, you can use OP-Z to sequence notes on the P-90. Hope this helps!
i'm trying to send gate out from my op-z into a dfam, going into the advance clock cv in on dfam, i can't get it working though, is there something i'm missing..?
Hi Duncan, I just looked at both manuals and in theory that should work. You can check that the gate is firing from oplab by looking at the LED above the gate output - it should flash every time you trigger a note on the module track.
Hi there - that's true, our CV example doesn't cover this! OP-Z's tracks can be driven by an external trigger input connected to oplab. Set oplab in to 'trig' > Select the track you want to run from the trig input > Set track length multiplier (hold shift + I) to 0. This instructs the track to follow the trigger input. Hope this helps! It's also set out in the instructions here (5.4): teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/track
My Squarp Pyramid sends DIN SYNC out over 3.5mm which I am able to sync as many Pocket Operators as I wish (with a standard splitter cable). My question is, what will happen if I send this DIN SYNC into the TRIG input on the oplab module? My wish is that the OPZ accepts the clock pulse and syncs the BPM just like the Operators do.
The oplab module has a selectable trig in which accepts 0 - 10V. According to the manual if you set the multiplier on a track to 0 (track + shift + 0) it will run a step per trigger. So it should work!
@@soundtechnology Thanks for the reply. I was so close to purchasing the OP-Z but the deal breaker was the requirement to have to purchase the module for MIDI in and out. I wound up getting the ZOIA which does everything I was hoping and more. OP-Z still seems really cool and perhaps I'll eventually try one.
Check out the OP-Z manual here: teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/midi This tells you how to configure all MIDI settings on Z, which then links with oplab
You can definitely use the MIDI out from USB C to control the Nord, but you might need MIDI / USB interface. You could also use a DAW to bridge the two. It could be possible to get a USB-C to USB-B cable, but I've only tried connecting them with oplab and DAW
You can actually output 16 channels of MIDI. The non-instrument tracks also output MIDI, and you can customise the encoders to control different CC values.
The Pocket Operators don't output MIDI, but oplab does accept MIDI input from other devices. You can also send PO sync signal out to drive Pocket Operators
No joke, I often come back to this video just for the 1:44 sound.
nice animation overlays and filming
super cool editing
Great video! Gate is great as well for Pocket Operators since then it can me muted an unmuted
I have my op-z 2 weeks i’m is ridiculously hard sinking my pocket operators without the module so this is probably gonna be on my Christmas list.
it been one year since, made made a synck tack for the pocket operators and volcas with the kick track , and i use it as a midi controller for my microganny and microfrek
have a look on the op-1 forum before you buy one. Many folk have experienced a major issue with the unit actually not fitting into their op-z.
good stuff guys
does it still have popping out issue?
In example #1, do you have to use trig out or can you use midi out and patch Cv/gate to other inputs?
Yep - you could use the out jack as MIDI instead of Trig. With 0-Coast specifically that could then cover CV, Gate (and clock I think), therefore freeing up the CV & Gate connections.
Ok, how does it compare to the line module? Is one better than the other? Or are they both useful for different purposes?
They have different uses. The oplab has CV & Gate connections for controlling modular synths etc, whereas the line gives you audio i/o instead. Both have MIDI, Trigger or PO Sync options. It's a case of whether you need audio i/o or control voltage.
@@soundtechnology why can't they make a model that does all those things? Like, add a switch or two for the ports on the right side in addition to the one on the left, so you can choose without having to completely swap modules. Also, it'd be neat if they included a backplate that let you have access to the switches without having to completely remove said plate first.
As a composer of over 10 years, I think it's fun to look at how the synth community is progressing very, very slowly compared to everyone else. It's essentially the same technology as 40 years ago, with minor improvements.
Compared to what, exactly? The technology is certainly being changed and improved quite drastically, but the fundamentals stay the same because they already work. Comparable to an acoustic guitar or a violin which hasn't really changed at all the last 40 years.
The thing I’m struggling with is using oplab to control both two gears(in my case it is erebus and werkstadt-02 via cv and midi at te same track.
Seems to be not possible, can you check it too please?
It comes out with an interferences on the midi side, where midi device is taking cv input as well as a chosen track(f.e. Bass)…😢
You should be able to control both at the same time. The module track on OP-Z is used for CV by default. The CV & Gate output only respond to MIDI channel 14 from OP-Z. If you want to control both at the same time, you need to have at least 1 track set to channel 14 (for cv) and the other set to the same channel as your MIDI device.
As an example - you could use the module track (set to MIDI channel 14) to send control voltage to one device, and the bass track with the channel set to that of your MIDI gear - lets say channel 5. MIDI settings can be edited using the OP-Z app, or by editing the .json config file while connected to your computer.
This is explained further in the manual for both oplab and OP-Z:
teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/midi
teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/modules/oplab
Hope this helps!
Hi! Where can i find this 3,5mm stereo splitter, cant find any custom one, only original from TE
How does the midi line in work with a Yamaha p-90
I don't know much about the Yamaha P-90, but I assume you can take MIDI out (5pin connector) from the P-90 and connect to MIDI in on oplab. In this configuration, you can use the P-90 to play the sounds on the OP-Z. If you take the oplab MIDI out and plug it to the P-90 MIDI in, you can use OP-Z to sequence notes on the P-90. Hope this helps!
thanks for this! is the midi output midi A or B?
According to the TE website, the compatible adapters that they sell are type A
@@soundtechnology tnx
i'm trying to send gate out from my op-z into a dfam, going into the advance clock cv in on dfam, i can't get it working though, is there something i'm missing..?
Hi Duncan, I just looked at both manuals and in theory that should work. You can check that the gate is firing from oplab by looking at the LED above the gate output - it should flash every time you trigger a note on the module track.
@@soundtechnology thanks something was wrong with the configuration but a factory reset fixed me up, thanks !
@@duncanjones7310 No problem. Glad to hear you managed to fix it! :)
they didn't explain the trigger in function. I can't figure, any help?
Hi there - that's true, our CV example doesn't cover this! OP-Z's tracks can be driven by an external trigger input connected to oplab. Set oplab in to 'trig' > Select the track you want to run from the trig input > Set track length multiplier (hold shift + I) to 0. This instructs the track to follow the trigger input. Hope this helps! It's also set out in the instructions here (5.4): teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/track
@@soundtechnology Thanks this was very helpful!
My Squarp Pyramid sends DIN SYNC out over 3.5mm which I am able to sync as many Pocket Operators as I wish (with a standard splitter cable). My question is, what will happen if I send this DIN SYNC into the TRIG input on the oplab module? My wish is that the OPZ accepts the clock pulse and syncs the BPM just like the Operators do.
The oplab module has a selectable trig in which accepts 0 - 10V. According to the manual if you set the multiplier on a track to 0 (track + shift + 0) it will run a step per trigger. So it should work!
@@soundtechnology Thanks for the reply. I was so close to purchasing the OP-Z but the deal breaker was the requirement to have to purchase the module for MIDI in and out. I wound up getting the ZOIA which does everything I was hoping and more. OP-Z still seems really cool and perhaps I'll eventually try one.
Is there anywhere I can find more information on how to output midi cc data?
Check out the OP-Z manual here: teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/midi
This tells you how to configure all MIDI settings on Z, which then links with oplab
@@soundtechnology thanks! I finally figured it out! It was my trs audio cable must have had a short...
Is it possible to do the Nord midi stuff with the USB-C port, using a USB-C to MIDI cable?
You can definitely use the MIDI out from USB C to control the Nord, but you might need MIDI / USB interface. You could also use a DAW to bridge the two. It could be possible to get a USB-C to USB-B cable, but I've only tried connecting them with oplab and DAW
can you send 8 different midi tracks out?
You can actually output 16 channels of MIDI. The non-instrument tracks also output MIDI, and you can customise the encoders to control different CC values.
Can I use the oplab to get midi out from teenage engineering pocket operator.
The Pocket Operators don't output MIDI, but oplab does accept MIDI input from other devices. You can also send PO sync signal out to drive Pocket Operators
Can it connect to mother 32?
Absolutely! oplab can output compatible CV, Gate and Trig for mother32 (and any other eurorack hardware)