I have such a similar story. Always wanted a kit, sold my Nintendo Switch and bought an Alesis Nitro Mesh ekit. Just ordered the roll limitless adapter for Christmas and it has just arrived in the UK! Thanks for showing the setup. Great video, very exciting.
This was by far a better connection explanation of the device vs the creator of the product. I bought this for my wife and was trying to figure out how to plug this thing in. On the guys website there is no instruction manual to download or print and the device didnt come with any paperwork. I wasnt even sure what usb end did what lol! Thank you for making this video. I got a label maker and will be making a label that says (power) and (Controller) and stick them on to the device, it would have been nice to get a stamped label like the start leters at the top. There are two buttons and didnt know what the second button does Either because there is no explanation. For anyone who wants to know how long it took for us to get this device, it took 90 days. From NC to CA.
@claybures3797 I messaged the guy who makes the adapter on Discord after receiving mine, and he told me the second button was for updating the firmware. For any future viewers of this video, I'm on the roll limitless website and can't find the information anywhere, but after being in game you can hold L1 and press UP/DOWN on the dpad to change the sensitivity. The light bar on your controller will turn red for lowering and blue for raising sensitivity. The creator recommends having the adapter at the lowest and fine tuning the sensitivity on your e-kit since the adapter affects the whole kit whereas your e-kit can change individual pads. Just FYI, I messaged the guy in September of 2021 (luckily I still have the messsges) so hopefully he hasn't changed too much and what I've said still applies.
Great point on the settings. I also use an Alesis Nitro and everything worked right from the get-go. Looking forward to gettin' my 2nd drum adapter soon.
So glad I found this video. I have been searching for rockband drums and have had no luck and I have this same electric set but the all black version so thank you so much for posting this video I just cant believe I didnt know about this sooner
I'm looking at the Alesis Nitro Mesh. Is that the one you're referring to? Aside from the Alesis drum kit and this Roll Limitless component, is there anything else you need to connect to let's say my PS4? Just wanna make sure I don't need to get anything else before I pull the trigger on this expensive purchase.
@@r.e.l.pestanas I didn't have to buy anthing else, but I did get the actual rockband midi interface that was for rockband 3, if you go with the roll limitless you will need the midi cable to plug from the roll limetless to the drums and you will need to micro usb cables one plugs into the playstation then into the roll limitless then the other one plugs from the roll limitless into the playstation controller
Dude ! it's exactly the video i was looking for, i have exactly that battery and i wanted to connect it to ps5/ xbox to be able to play rock band! you are amazing !!
Been tryna figure out how to plug my rockband kit in to my PC to start to learn via midi drums, but now saving this in case i manage to find room for an electronic kit thanks dude!
This tutorial doesn't cover how to actually use the drumset to navigate RB4, and that happens to be the hard part. Like others in this thread have commented, My Alesis Nitro kit can't navigate the RB4 menu system, and the PS4 controller connects as the microphone user, so there is no way to actually play this with my drumset. What am I doing wrong?
I figured out how to enable 'drum naviation', so i can play now. However, crash 1 and crash 2 are reversed to what the game expects. Is there a way to re-map the pads for the game?
I have rhe original rock band drums and 2 dongles and the dongles dont work? Im not a circuit board or soldering expert. How can i fix or? Advice? My drums r in good shape after all these years!
I ordered mine in December 2021, it just arrived today! I periodically emailed bookrreader with my order number as the subject, always got a prompt response.
Ooooo you have the special edition! We just got the Alesis Nitro too and love it! Such a long wait to get the roll limitless but we’re pumped as avid rock band players to finally be able to play pro drums. Thanks for the video!
Probably not. I would give it a shot to see if it works. You're probably going to need the roll limitless because you need a controller to spoof the drum connection to the console.
@@phile5437 Do you think it would work if I found a usb to midi output cable? I already have an electronic drum, would be a shame to have to buy a new one just to be able to play GH on my PS3.
what if we have a drum kit that doesn't have the MIDI cable you use? i'm trying to hook up a DONNER DED-100, and have been really itching to practice/learn/etc. (it uses a USB-B port, if that needs to be known.)
I just got the Roll Limitless, which is very exciting, however when I play Simmons, my notes will pick up other notes. I'm assuming this has to do with vibrations with the kit? Do I decrease the threshold on each pad and cymbal? Is the Crosstalk a factor in this? New to electric drums as I typically play acoustic. Any help is appreciated. A very competitive rock band player and it hurts not getting the scores I deserve 😩
How do I go about adjusting my cymbals on the alesis nitro kit, for instance for pro drums I wanna switch my ride cymbal to where the crash normally is, and the crash where the ride is for placement purposes on pro drums.
If I use this on 360 does it resolve the issue with using a digital drum kit via the MPA on games older than RB3? I find it has problems if I try to use my digital kit with those games.
@@Derpferdler That's fair. Hopefully someone else might see my comment and can confirm for me either way. Don't really want to spend $100 on something that might not even hep with the issue I'm having.
Hi matey just a quick question I have a yamaha dtx 450 with midi cable to usb can I get a connector to make it to pins as I see on the roll limitless thanks for all your help much appreciated Jamie
With RB4 open and the drums on/plugged into the console, plug the cable into your ps4 controller, and you should see the drum menu pop up, indicating that it’s connected. Press Start on your controller and it should log you in on drums
Anyone else having problem with theirs completely dropping notes? Plenty of times it will completely ignore my snare even when all the notes land at the same time. According to the web app, it's picking them up and timing wise, the snare can be in the middle and still misses.
are you talking about with the adapter? If that’s the case you may need to manually adjust the threshold at which the note is activated. With midi each drum has a velocity which represents how hard you hit it. The velocity threshold filters out unwanted random movement to prevent extra hits, but your kit may have a low velocity value for the snare. Check the website you may need to buy a bluetooth adapter but I know you can change that threshold somehow
Que tal amigo, Quisiera saber como se llama este adaptador, Compré una batería eléctrica y me gustaría probarla de manera con este adaptador, Como se llama el adaptador. Saludos desde Perú 🇵🇪
I have a Millenium MPS 850. It comes with a MIDI to USB output. Do you know if I can connect it to the PS4 without having to buy any adaptor like Roll Limitless? It also has a normal MIDI output.
Sweet! You finally got Drum adapter. I'm wondering what's the difference of 2 different drum adapters. My PS3 drum green pad snap off 😭 now I have Xbox 360 Drum (bought from Facebook market 🤫) which Drum adapters is better for me to get? 🤔 it's first gen RB drums with USB cable but no cymbals just 4 pads and XBox 360 version
this adapter is for connecting electronic drumkits to your game console to play Rock Band with them. It sounds like you just have regular Rock Band drums. I'm not aware of any adapters that let you use regular 360 drums with PS3, which is what I think you're asking about. If I learn about any, I'll let you know!
actually yes. Recently, the guy who makes these adapters released a firmware update that allows you to use this adapter on Xbox One/Series as well! www.reddit.com/r/Rockband/comments/10pdmzs/xbox_one_instruments/
The creator of the rolling limitless has a discord you can ask questions in , hes very responsive and gives shipment updates on orders too! I’ll try to edit and place it here once I get back home
Do I need this adapter to be able to play rock band with my edrum? And is there an alternative device that I could use while waiting for 2 to 3 months for the roll limitless?
You need this adapter and a midi cable to play RB4 with your e-kit. The only alternative is the PS3 Midi Pro Adapter and that costs an arm and a leg on Amazon lol
@Derpferdler thank you. I ordered a roll limitless but it will take 2 to 2 months. So I start searching for an alternative. And yes indeed cost an arm and a leg
@@Unaboner I found a way better solution that’s just as cheap and takes no longer than a week to get the parts. If you are interested let me know and I can link all of it
Gah. I have melodics but the notes are sideways for drums. I just bought rock band 4 thinking all I had to do was connect my midi cable to my ps4. Realize that doesn’t work. Thanks for the video. Hopefully I can buy this piece Friday. The ps3 adapter is over 400. No way I can buy that. Some on eBay for 150-300. But anyway thanks I’ll try this first.
How movable is the alesis nitro kit? I’ve been thinking about getting one with everything else for rock band but I don’t have the room to keep it permanently setup where the consoles are, I would have to set it up and pack it away every time.
the Roll Limitless guitar adapter works on PS5 so I'll make an educated guess and assume this drum adapter also does? Don't quote me on that though, I don't even have a PS5 lol. Maybe someone on the Rock Band subreddit would know
Roll Limitless is the shit, Bookreader is a cool ass human being for being able to make something so amazing.
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I have such a similar story. Always wanted a kit, sold my Nintendo Switch and bought an Alesis Nitro Mesh ekit. Just ordered the roll limitless adapter for Christmas and it has just arrived in the UK!
Thanks for showing the setup. Great video, very exciting.
BRO!! I've been looking for something like this forever!! I can't believe I just stumbled across this!! Hell yeah!!
This was by far a better connection explanation of the device vs the creator of the product. I bought this for my wife and was trying to figure out how to plug this thing in. On the guys website there is no instruction manual to download or print and the device didnt come with any paperwork. I wasnt even sure what usb end did what lol! Thank you for making this video. I got a label maker and will be making a label that says (power) and (Controller) and stick them on to the device, it would have been nice to get a stamped label like the start leters at the top. There are two buttons and didnt know what the second button does Either because there is no explanation. For anyone who wants to know how long it took for us to get this device, it took 90 days. From NC to CA.
You ever figure out what that second button is for? I'm currently trying to figure this thing out.
@claybures3797 I messaged the guy who makes the adapter on Discord after receiving mine, and he told me the second button was for updating the firmware. For any future viewers of this video, I'm on the roll limitless website and can't find the information anywhere, but after being in game you can hold L1 and press UP/DOWN on the dpad to change the sensitivity. The light bar on your controller will turn red for lowering and blue for raising sensitivity. The creator recommends having the adapter at the lowest and fine tuning the sensitivity on your e-kit since the adapter affects the whole kit whereas your e-kit can change individual pads. Just FYI, I messaged the guy in September of 2021 (luckily I still have the messsges) so hopefully he hasn't changed too much and what I've said still applies.
Great point on the settings. I also use an Alesis Nitro and everything worked right from the get-go. Looking forward to gettin' my 2nd drum adapter soon.
So glad I found this video. I have been searching for rockband drums and have had no luck and I have this same electric set but the all black version so thank you so much for posting this video I just cant believe I didnt know about this sooner
I'm looking at the Alesis Nitro Mesh. Is that the one you're referring to?
Aside from the Alesis drum kit and this Roll Limitless component, is there anything else you need to connect to let's say my PS4? Just wanna make sure I don't need to get anything else before I pull the trigger on this expensive purchase.
@@r.e.l.pestanas I didn't have to buy anthing else, but I did get the actual rockband midi interface that was for rockband 3, if you go with the roll limitless you will need the midi cable to plug from the roll limetless to the drums and you will need to micro usb cables one plugs into the playstation then into the roll limitless then the other one plugs from the roll limitless into the playstation controller
Dude ! it's exactly the video i was looking for, i have exactly that battery and i wanted to connect it to ps5/ xbox to be able to play rock band! you are amazing !!
Do you really call it a battery?
@@miguelescutia5556 electric drum hahaha sorry
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Been tryna figure out how to plug my rockband kit in to my PC to start to learn via midi drums, but now saving this in case i manage to find room for an electronic kit thanks dude!
Planning to get the nitro kit for Christmas and playing on ps5, thanks a lot bro
#1 this video is very useful, and #2 nice pants dude
What if my e-drum kit control panel does not have a midi out? How do I connect the Drums to the midi in on the roll limitless module?
It has to go into a midi out, otherwise there won’t be drum inputs going to the game :(
@@Derpferdler I'm going to write you on IG and send you what I got and you can let me know what you think of my solution.
This tutorial doesn't cover how to actually use the drumset to navigate RB4, and that happens to be the hard part. Like others in this thread have commented, My Alesis Nitro kit can't navigate the RB4 menu system, and the PS4 controller connects as the microphone user, so there is no way to actually play this with my drumset. What am I doing wrong?
I figured out how to enable 'drum naviation', so i can play now. However, crash 1 and crash 2 are reversed to what the game expects. Is there a way to re-map the pads for the game?
I’m having the same problem. Can’t seem to switch from vocals to drums. What was your solution?
The developers say i csn play with my ion Drumkit..but ION use no MIDI.. so i cant connect
I have rhe original rock band drums and 2 dongles and the dongles dont work? Im not a circuit board or soldering expert. How can i fix or? Advice? My drums r in good shape after all these years!
No idea lol. Maybe try the Rock Band subreddit, someone there might know how to help
It wont let my roll limitless do anything but bring up the mini menu and the controller becomes a mic (ps5)
Super helpful man thx. I just got mine a few days ago and was wondering on how to set it up 👌
Glad I could help
I've been waiting for 6 months on bookreader to send mine and it's been nothing but silence and delay
Go to the discord server and ask him where your order is. All you need to tell him is your order number discord.gg/ggwabC9c
I ordered mine in December 2021, it just arrived today! I periodically emailed bookrreader with my order number as the subject, always got a prompt response.
How did you calibrate video and song?? Won't work for me
I am so sad. I bought a alesis nitro e drum. That thing does not have midi anymore. It has USB-B female now 😢
The newer ones don’t? Mine has a midi and a usb b
What song is playing in the back @3:00 minutes
3:05*
Ooooo you have the special edition! We just got the Alesis Nitro too and love it! Such a long wait to get the roll limitless but we’re pumped as avid rock band players to finally be able to play pro drums.
Thanks for the video!
Hi, I only have a USB output for midi on my e-drum? Will this work?
Probably not. I would give it a shot to see if it works. You're probably going to need the roll limitless because you need a controller to spoof the drum connection to the console.
@@phile5437 Do you think it would work if I found a usb to midi output cable? I already have an electronic drum, would be a shame to have to buy a new one just to be able to play GH on my PS3.
@@rebortion That might work. USB out to midi on the Roll limitless.
I have a alesis turbo and im having sightread problems
what if we have a drum kit that doesn't have the MIDI cable you use? i'm trying to hook up a DONNER DED-100, and have been really itching to practice/learn/etc. (it uses a USB-B port, if that needs to be known.)
the adapter requires a MIDI connection, unfortunately. However, you can play Clone Hero Pro Drums on PC with just a USB-B cable
Get some furniture risers if the drumset is too short for you
i've figured out the height issue since this video
is there a way to do this on ps5 since now we use usb-c cables?
I dont see the links to buy this exact set can anyone help me out?!
My drum kit is an Alesis Nitro Mesh
I just got the Roll Limitless, which is very exciting, however when I play Simmons, my notes will pick up other notes. I'm assuming this has to do with vibrations with the kit? Do I decrease the threshold on each pad and cymbal? Is the Crosstalk a factor in this? New to electric drums as I typically play acoustic. Any help is appreciated. A very competitive rock band player and it hurts not getting the scores I deserve 😩
yeah i'd mess around with the threshold on the pads/cymbals giving you trouble
Nice video bro 😎👌
I just got one to use with ps5 but I can’t get it to work with my Alesis
You’ll need a separate midi cable too, not just the adapter
How do I go about adjusting my cymbals on the alesis nitro kit, for instance for pro drums I wanna switch my ride cymbal to where the crash normally is, and the crash where the ride is for placement purposes on pro drums.
Switch the actual cymbals on your kit AND the cords to the drum module
@@BILLY_BO Thanks man, I ended up figuring it out a bit after my comment 😂
Thank you for making this video 👍
will the alesis work for ps5 also? i wanna play rock band 4 with these.
If I use this on 360 does it resolve the issue with using a digital drum kit via the MPA on games older than RB3? I find it has problems if I try to use my digital kit with those games.
i use it for ps4 so i have no idea lol
@@Derpferdler That's fair. Hopefully someone else might see my comment and can confirm for me either way. Don't really want to spend $100 on something that might not even hep with the issue I'm having.
Do the e-drums work only for Pro mode with a Roll Limitless or will it work for the non pro modes as well. Very helpful vid too.
You can play non-pro drums as well with the e-kit
I'm having issues with my controller only connecting as a microphone and not a drum controller
Did you find a solution to this?
Hi matey just a quick question I have a yamaha dtx 450 with midi cable to usb can I get a connector to make it to pins as I see on the roll limitless thanks for all your help much appreciated Jamie
I have no idea lol, here’s the discord server for Roll Limitless if you have any questions discord.gg/8EgAREyhQQ
Thanks for the help on this matey 👍
Wondering if this works for ps5.
It does :)
My donner ded-200 mesh e kit doors not have a midi connection? If i have right connections it should work right?
You need a midi cable for this adapter, I’m sorry
What do I need to connect my e drums to my Xbox on or S to play rockband 4
This videos for playstation 4 purposes so I have no idea
Ok thank you
I need that controller for my system where can I get one
adapter, you mean? It's linked in the description
Idk why on ps4 it’s not detecting my controller and on ps5 does it’s weird
With RB4 open and the drums on/plugged into the console, plug the cable into your ps4 controller, and you should see the drum menu pop up, indicating that it’s connected. Press Start on your controller and it should log you in on drums
@@Derpferdler I’ve been searching supposedly it doesn’t work on some ps4 controllers 😔
Anyone else having problem with theirs completely dropping notes? Plenty of times it will completely ignore my snare even when all the notes land at the same time. According to the web app, it's picking them up and timing wise, the snare can be in the middle and still misses.
are you talking about with the adapter? If that’s the case you may need to manually adjust the threshold at which the note is activated. With midi each drum has a velocity which represents how hard you hit it. The velocity threshold filters out unwanted random movement to prevent extra hits, but your kit may have a low velocity value for the snare. Check the website you may need to buy a bluetooth adapter but I know you can change that threshold somehow
Just make it low enough that every snare hit registers but it doesn’t hit extra notes on accident
So all I need is..
1.) Alesis Nitro Kit (I have it)
2.) Roll Limitless adapter
3.) micro usb cords
4.) Rock Band 4 game
?
Midi cable too, but yep all those other things too
Que tal amigo, Quisiera saber como se llama este adaptador, Compré una batería eléctrica y me gustaría probarla de manera con este adaptador, Como se llama el adaptador. Saludos desde Perú 🇵🇪
Roll Limitless rolllimitless.com/roll-limitless/
Wait
So this works with all previous RB and GH games too?!
Does this also work on PS5?
not sure about older games but I've been told it works on PS5 RB4 so you can have fun with that at least
@@Derpferdler Sweet!
I have a Millenium MPS 850. It comes with a MIDI to USB output. Do you know if I can connect it to the PS4 without having to buy any adaptor like Roll Limitless? It also has a normal MIDI output.
You can try the midi to usb and see if it works, and if not, you’ll probably have to buy the RL
What about if My drumset just have usb? (I have a yamaha dtx532)
I can use it?
no, your drumset needs a MIDI out port
If I plug in the controller only without the drums will it work like that too
No you have to plug the controller into the adapter to navigate menus so it’s already being used while drumming
@@Derpferdler I’m confused let me rephrase it a little bit can I use this to play with a DualShock or would I need a drum kit or guitar
@Rigothepigo you need an electronic drum kit for this adapter
Sweet! You finally got Drum adapter. I'm wondering what's the difference of 2 different drum adapters. My PS3 drum green pad snap off 😭 now I have Xbox 360 Drum (bought from Facebook market 🤫) which Drum adapters is better for me to get? 🤔 it's first gen RB drums with USB cable but no cymbals just 4 pads and XBox 360 version
this adapter is for connecting electronic drumkits to your game console to play Rock Band with them. It sounds like you just have regular Rock Band drums. I'm not aware of any adapters that let you use regular 360 drums with PS3, which is what I think you're asking about. If I learn about any, I'll let you know!
Bro… I have ps3 guitars and dongles and want to play rockband 4 on ps4 is this all I need?
Not sure how a drum adapter would help with your guitars
Hi matey where would I get this roll limitless from as I'm in the UK cheers Jamie
Link is in the description
@@Derpferdler hi is the adaptor only purchased from the US 🇺🇸
Hey so i got myself a Xbox 360 guitar to use it on the ps5. Will this adapter work ?
This adapter’s clearly for drums so not really lol
What do you use for your guitar then
@@luisgutierrez1076 i use a Wii GHWT guitar with the RetroCultMods adapter to use it on PC/PlayStation
Would this work for a Yamaha DTX 502 drum kit?
if it has a midi port, yes
Would this work with the nitro max?
I believe so, as long as it has a midi port
@Derpferdler thanks!
Can you use the Xbox 360 drum kit with the ps4?
Not with this adapter
can i use this setup on xbox series s??
actually yes. Recently, the guy who makes these adapters released a firmware update that allows you to use this adapter on Xbox One/Series as well! www.reddit.com/r/Rockband/comments/10pdmzs/xbox_one_instruments/
What about connecting an XBOX One X
this is for ps4 so i have no idea lol
Would this work with the turbo kit too? Thinking of getting into drum lessons soon and I’m on a budget so I was looking into the cheaper option
from the looks of it, the turbo kit also has MIDI connection so yes this adapter would work!
Have you tried it? I have the same question
Will this adapter work with the PS3 even though it requires a dual shock 4? And will it work on Guitar Hero Drum games? Thanks.
i think it's just meant for PS4 RB4
The creator of the rolling limitless has a discord you can ask questions in , hes very responsive and gives shipment updates on orders too! I’ll try to edit and place it here once I get back home
Would this work on Wii drum set?
is your Wii drum set an e-kit?
@@Derpferdler it’s the Beatles one
Do I need this adapter to be able to play rock band with my edrum? And is there an alternative device that I could use while waiting for 2 to 3 months for the roll limitless?
You need this adapter and a midi cable to play RB4 with your e-kit. The only alternative is the PS3 Midi Pro Adapter and that costs an arm and a leg on Amazon lol
@Derpferdler thank you. I ordered a roll limitless but it will take 2 to 2 months. So I start searching for an alternative. And yes indeed cost an arm and a leg
Would the ps3 midi adapter Would work to my ps4?
Yeah
Do you think the adapter will work with Xbox series X?
I feel like newer versions of this adapter work with Xbox but I’m not 100%, go to the product page and read up about it
Weird question but does this work with Fortnite festival?
Pro drums aren’t playable on Festival yet so I don’t know lol
Does this work with Playing clone hero on the PC?
if your drumset has a usb-B port like mine does, you can connect it to your pc and play CH with them that way
Does the ps5 controller work the same way for the ps5
i'm assuming it would? I don't have a PS5 to test
You don’t need a drum dongle correct?
i go over everything you need in the video. your drums, a midi cable, this adapter, a ps4 with RB4, and a PS4 controller
@@Derpferdler what about PS5? I know already it works on PS5 but do I still need PS4 controller?
can i hook it to PC to play with an emulator
this is for PS4
If I ordered this now how long do you think the wait would be?
mine took 2 months
@@Derpferdler ok I’m hearing it’s getting worse like 4-8 months lol. You got it at the right time
oh wow lol i guess i did
@@ATrain10-27 oh fuck I just ordered one now. What’s your order status??
@@Unaboner I found a way better solution that’s just as cheap and takes no longer than a week to get the parts. If you are interested let me know and I can link all of it
Gave mommaderp a shout so I had to sub
It take a year to come in
The Roll limitless I'm Sad :(
yeah it's just one guy making all the adapters and he's super backed up :(
Thanks man😊
No problem 👍
I can’t wait to get this great piece of equipment.
This is going to breathe new life into rock band, and all the money that I invested into that game along with upping my drumming skills .
I didn’t know the wait time would be so long though. 3 months there saying.
Would this work for PS5?
people have said that it does
would this work for xbox one x
It’s for ps4 so no lol
Gah. I have melodics but the notes are sideways for drums. I just bought rock band 4 thinking all I had to do was connect my midi cable to my ps4. Realize that doesn’t work. Thanks for the video. Hopefully I can buy this piece Friday. The ps3 adapter is over 400. No way I can buy that. Some on eBay for 150-300. But anyway thanks I’ll try this first.
Work on rivals too?
why wouldn't it lol
amazing video tks
Glad you liked it!
How movable is the alesis nitro kit? I’ve been thinking about getting one with everything else for rock band but I don’t have the room to keep it permanently setup where the consoles are, I would have to set it up and pack it away every time.
it's easy to pick up and move around, i can't keep it in my streaming room because it's so big but i have a spot in my bedroom for it lol
How do I calibrate because it doesn't work.
Will this work on ps5?
I’ve heard that it does. I don’t have a ps5 to test but people have reported positive results
Does this adapter work for Xbox one?
with a new firmware update, yes! rolllimitless.com/roll-limitless/ rb4.app/#!/xboxHelp/RL
Can you connect it to your Wii ?
The title says ps4 so no
Can you use a PS5 controller?
the Roll Limitless guitar adapter works on PS5 so I'll make an educated guess and assume this drum adapter also does? Don't quote me on that though, I don't even have a PS5 lol. Maybe someone on the Rock Band subreddit would know
gracias