I analyzed all the ways Squid Game: The Challenge *could* have been rigged: A deep dive analysis.
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- So what’s the deal- was Squid Game: The Challenge really rigged or not?
Was the whole thing all fake and scripted with paid actors? What are the rigging allegations made by former players and how have the producers responded? If they did rig it, how could they have actually done it?
Many have read the Rolling Stone article back in February 2023 soon after filming Red Light, Green Light- as well as other articles and player interviews - and have concluded that SquidGame: The Challenge must have been rigged by the producers. But was it really?
In this video, I take a detailed look at all the ways in which the games and challenges could have been rigged or manipulated by stacking the odds to help (or harm) the odds of certain contestants. My analysis highlights some suspicious incidents that may provide evidence of producer manipulation as well as the role (and credibility) of the so-called Independent Adjudicators.
I also explain the difference between “staged” vs “rigged”, the legalities involved with manipulating a “reality competition show” (e.g. 2001 Survivor lawsuit and the 1950’s Quiz Show scandals), and what Netflix can do next season to tamp down any lingering suspicions about rigging in Season Two.
After looking at all of these factors, I give my final verdict to answer the burning question: “Was Squid Game: The Challenge rigged or not?”
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“Squid Game” (Netflix, 2021)
“Squid Game: The Challenge” (Netflix, 2023)
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Hhhmmmm can't cosign this
Hey everyone, it's TJ #182 who just commented! Finally we can get some insider scoop.
TJ -- Seems like you're saying that the show was not at all rigged (on the up and up)-- is that correct?
Question about the Warships team selection process: we see the guard pulling out balls #1 (Bryton's team) and #3 for the first groups to play and holding them up to the camera...but it was impossible to tell if they filmed the guards pulling them in real time, in front of the players, or later (to be edited in). Were the red and blue boxes touched at all (or replaced) from the time you all entered the room? I know you couldn't see inside the boxes, but did it look like the guards pull the balls at random or they might've been pre-positioned?
Also, I don't know if you watched the whole video, but my final verdict was basically that I thought the games were played mostly clean (not rigged) but I had some doubts mostly based on Bryton's comment that he broke his cookie but was passed anyway. But someone commented that Bryton later retracted/clarified his earlier statement and said that he mis-spoke and wasn't given any preferential treatment (the commented didn't state his source so who knows?). If it was true though, that would change my opinion considerably-- and I'd be more inclined to think that it was played as fairly and cleanly as possible.
I'm sure other players have read the rigging allegations as well and you've talked to them-- is there a consensus among former players? Did anyone see anything that could suggest any rigging? What's your opinion of the allegations made by the four (anonymous) players in the Rolling Stone article? (unless I see an actual lawsuit filed, I'm inclined to think it was mostly sour grapes bullshit). Thanks!
There was too much chance for it to be rigged.... every time we thought we had one up they threw us a curveball. We was sleep deprived, eating not to be hungry (if that makes sense) and we was going loopy because of the Confinement of the dorms. It's literally illegal to rig a game show. It was chosen randomly right in front of us who was going for warships and even when the 1 on 1 was chosen we thought it was tug of war until we got on set. With dalgona they had camera over us and a second adjudication waiting for us when we got out the room to make sure we wasn't cheating.
Wow, great insider insights, thanks TJ! The audience had zero insight or visibility into the independent adjudicators (all we knew was that they existed but had no way how fairly or closely they were monitoring everything).
And I actually pointed out in the video that there were too many games of chance to be “rigged” but that possibly the producers put their thumbs on the scale at certain points to influence an outcome. But again I was mostly suspicious after reading about the Bryton cookie thing… but it sounds like Dalgona was properly monitored. To me, his “admission” (if true) was the most damning piece of evidence and made me question what might’ve been going on behind the scenes (which led me to make this video in the first place).
If anyone else knows where I can find the supposed Bryton clarification/retraction about actually not breaking his cookie, please reply to this comment and let us know!
@@tjstukes3837 PS-- you were one of the players that I was rooting for (and I'm sure you had a lot of fans behind you). You played the game honorably, the way I think most people wished they could've played it. There can only be one winner but unlike many other players, you came out of the other side with your dignity intact and a positive reputation that you can be proud of. Props.
What a video. Fast paced, detailed. Plenty of clips to go with the commentary. Bravo
Thanks!!🙏
I’ve rewatched Episode 7 & 8, and regardless of video editing, we cannot ignore the actual voiceover summaries from Roland, Trey and Ashley, along with Roland saying “I don’t mean to call shots for anyone, but I think it’s only fair if someone else steps up.” (After Trey jumps twice)
The acknowledgement of (I think Mikie) saying “it’s one each guys” or Chad asking “so noone’s passing? She’s (Ashley) not going to jump up?”
Then Elliot stated “she didn’t say a damn word either. that’s on Ashley, that is.” And continues to reiterate the fairness of 50/50 plan, Implying that Ashley is not sticking to the plan.
It was only until Ashley was at the front of the line that, in her words, she “can no longer hide.”
If Trey jumped at his own discretion and failed to pressure Ashley to stick with the 50/50 plan, that’s on Trey.
But the overall frustration comes from Ashley’s initial strategy, thought process, and then the frustration of the aftermath regarding Mai and her decision to call Ashley out.
I don’t think Ashley understood that the 50/50 plan was in her favor. She says “I’m not sacrificing myself when I already have a low number.” Does she not understand with her plan Trey would not be able to make it across forcing her number to be next in line?!
Even after all of that why would she expect anyone else to overtake her if she “never agreed to that plan.”
My doubts come from the misalignment of the actual voiceovers on screen versus the post show interviews of Trey specifically and others on the bridge. Did the producers manufacture Trey and Ashley’s voiceovers of the bridge? It doesn’t make sense.
Excellent breakdown- I’ve seen similar sentiments in the comments on my Ashley video but not all together in detail. Many great and accurate points , such as : how confusing it was that we all saw and heard things on the Glass Bridge (“I don’t mean to call shots for anyone…”. “Shit, you talkin “ and other players voice their frustration at her) … but then the next day, everyone except Mai apparently had selective amnesia and didn’t understand why Mai called Ashley out during the Dice Game.
To add to the confusion further, players like Trey came out later to defend Ashley when we all saw what went down and what they originally said (as you mentioned, no amount of editing could change those facts). Personally I think it couldve been a coordinated effort by the show’s PR people to do some damage control and to rehabilitate Ashley’s reputation. But she did what she did and said what she said, so I’m baffled by all of the people coming to her defense.
Also, you accurately pointed out that it wasn’t even a smart, strategic move on her part (you have no idea how many people have commented something like “it’s $4.5m y’all! It’s not a team sport, hell, I would’ve done the same too to win that bag!”). She was number FIVE! The 50-50 plan benefitted the players at the front the most. She had to take her one 50-50 jump anyway (“I can’t hide anymore… I have no choice but to jump”) which she could’ve done right after Trey’s first jump, and everyone else behind would overtake her. Instead of refusing to jump and causing Trey to get eliminated, she risked everyone else getting mad and refusing to overtake her. Luckily for her, she had nice Purna behind her and then everyone else followed suit.
But it’s $4.5 million yall!!!
@@thesaltycobra finally someone who understands… I doubted my own perspective and almost felt gaslighted by the cast. And while I gave Ashley the benefit of the doubt because the cast were physically there… there had to be some truth to Mai’s reality. I think Ashley lacked the foresight to understand the strategy and discern what benefited her most. Then even during her post bridge voiceover still failed to see that her initial strategy would have led to her demise.
There’s a wealth of information available that addresses all of your points tbh
I’d be more than happy to list everything for you if you’d like.
@@klarfaerie I would love to hear and confirm it. Please list how the series voiceovers align with post show interviews such as those on RUclips or other platforms.
@@modernwarpaint I gotchu.
Give me at least till tmr bc it’s midnight here and I have to get up early and it’s a lot of info. I’ll try to put everything in a post and tell you how to find it since I don’t think I can literally link things bc “spam”
Good to know for my season two audition
Have they announced a season 2?
@@IndigoRoseSchoolOfUnityyep, at the end of szn 1
@@IndigoRoseSchoolOfUnityyeah
Ha! Actually I'm not sure how any of this will help anyone for season two. I guess, maybe, don't be a prick about accepting free fruit and never volunteer for anything?
Hey I applied for season two as well!!!!! Hope to see you there lol
I subscribed immediately, I can't believe this video only has 226 likes? The quality is way too good to have this little attention, I bet your channel is going to blow up soon!!
Hey thanks-- I really appreciate the support!!
@@thesaltycobranice. Seems pretty clear it was largely real but the fact that many people were them fake mics and the fact that they brought back ppl who were disqualified shows at least there was SOME faking..
Yes the vast majority was just regular people but seems pretty obvious they were trying to build up a narrative with a few of them
Hallie claims they stopped the song early on the round where a bunch of people who crossed the line were eliminated, and most of them just didn't notice. The rule was you had to be stopped when the music stopped, so they probably needed more eliminated so they altered the song time to trick them.
Hmmm , interesting insight - that does explain a lot. I had a feeling it could be explained away by something like this, otherwise we would’ve heard those 20 or so players (who were *supposedly* unfairly eliminated) airing their grievances and complaining. This further supports the case that the games were played cleanly (and the four anonymous players quoted in the Rolling Stone article are full of shit).
If the other commenter was right in saying that Bryton retracted his “my cookie broke and I got passed anyway” comment , this changes my opinion considerably. Plus in my pinned comment TJ chimed in a said that he felt there was zero rigging.
Thanks for your comment! For others who have also watched a lot of player interviews, please feel free to let us know any more insider scoop (and please cite where you saw it, which player, what YT or TikTok account etc if you remember)
@@thesaltycobra The claim from Hallie that @aleut1 is referring to is said during an interview/podcast between Roland and Hallie. Hallie describes a situation where a few guys thought they made it, but technically according to the rules about the music ending, they were rightfully eliminated. The producers probably had this in their back pocket for when they needed to trim down numbers quickly. (Also, they knocked over another player, which was against the rules).
Thanks for the citation and additional detail. I had a feeling there was something off about those claims (20 players crossing the line but being eliminated) and that the 4 players were just salty and talking shit. Otherwise, if those 20 were unjustifiably eliminated for no reason, we damn sure would've heard them bitching and moaning about it too (and Rolling Stone should've been able to contact at least one of them). @@alexwhite1548
Let's be honest here, there will always be at least someone to claim that any series, not just this one, is "very obviously fake/staged/scripted/whatever term you choose to use" regardless of how real or fake it actually is.
So what do you all think? What did I miss and where did I get it wrong? (I'm sure there was a lot) What did you agree or disagree with? I didn't watch many player interviews so there was probably a lot of insider scoop that came out that I missed so please let me know below. What were some other allegations of rigging that came out? What else did the producers or players say in response to them?
that's a really well made video - you deserve a lot more subs
Hey thanks man, I really appreciate it!
I think it's safe to assume that the producers had an influence in one way or another....
Just the fact that the influencers were chosen to carry a microphone, but the less interrestig people hadn't...
Seems as if they had preferences for who should get further in the game..
Interesting point at @33:53 about FCC and Netflix.
As a parallel, this is also why shows like Howard Stern and O&A in the early 00s became exempt from FCC regulation on the radio. They moved to premium satellite radio stations which freed them from a lot of the stringent regulations. Also, premium channels like HBO and Cinemax had similar protections by being a premium service.
Am i the only one who knew the outcome of the button's when watching it the first time???
the table they eat at is a triangle (the small shape)
the floor the table they eat at is round (the biggest shape)
squares on the checked pattern on floor ( the smallest shape)
So going from the size the biggest being the best... it was easy to see the the only squares being small is the worst shape and to not pick it
The reason why the girl lost while squatting on red light green light is because she had to hold that position for 30-45 minutes and this is because the game went on for over 8 hours while she was freezing.
bryton didnt actually break the shape he broke the shape off he said after that he said it wrong no one would ever say that if they did let him off
Okay, well that changes things a lot, if his clarification was true (and not just PR damage control). Because his earlier statement (or possible mis-statement) was the most damning piece of evidence for rigging, in my opinion. I became a lot more skeptical after hearing that. Just curious- where did you read or see his clarification? A RUclips video or written article? Can you please cite (or someone else who knows), thanks!
@@thesaltycobradidn’t multiple people say that certain people were let through after breaking their cookie?
Hmm, I didn't hear that, but I didn't watch a lot of player interviews (just read as many article and comments as I could). If you can point us in the right directions, it would be appreciated (which players and where-- TikTok, RUclips etc, if you can remember), thanks. @@klarfaerie
Actually thats def what happen for the phone calls one. The guy who got eliminated got the burgwr first, then two more people got food treats, until they got him to pick the phone back up again they pulled the trick on him
ive been waiting for some more of these videos, lets goooo!🎉🎉
Ha! Thanks! Yeah this one took a bit longer to put together… now I’m afraid to ever do any non-Squid Games videos…
Don’t worry, you never know until you try! I’ll always watch your videos.
@@thesaltycobradon’t be afraid! If you don’t try to make different kind of videos and keep evolving you won’t know what does it for you and your audience!!! We support you, just keep going! Don’t be scared, we have to try to know! ❤
Thanks Rose-- really appreciate the support!
from what I've heard, it legally could not have been rigged due to how many people were involved and how much money there was.
I’m not sure what your comment means- the number of players involved or the size of the prize should be irrelevant. Fraud is fraud (or breach of contract) … there’s no threshold depending on the dollar amount and number of people. If what you’re saying is true, then would it mean that it’s legal to rig any games as long as there are only a small number of people who are competing for $10,000 instead?
@thesaltycobra whatvi mean with the legality is the fact that if it was rigged there would be a great chance that one of the hundreds of contestants would try to take them to court over how they ripped away their chance for millions of dollars.
@thesaltycobra no I think you misunderstand. I'm trying to say that if a game show promises a large sum of money, it it is illegal to rig it for certain contestants. And on the thing I said about the number of people. I'll I'm trying to say is that if it was rigged, someone would have just said by now "they cheated me out of money" and then I would imagine a lawsuit would be filed or something like that. I hope I cleared up any confusion.
Who’s saying she even got all that money? If they can’t afford heat, microphones or food?
This is awesome!! So well researched and thought through
I started to suspect some things were scripted following the glass bridge. Not because of how 1 or 2 people acted, but how everyone turned on Mia.
Number 31 said that he rolled the dice and it was "not good enough" or something like that, he rolled a 2 first, and then was told to roll again, for not reason other then a "bad roll" or something like that,and rolled a 6. so that could have been a rigged moment. Who knows they could have kept Ashley or others in if they rolled a 6 just by saying it was a "bad" roll, and to re-roll
Bro this video got my eyes opened...I honestly didn't expect to see it was fixed...nice video!!
I noticed it was fixed when i watched the real serie, too much coincidence with the actual serie. they fraud but it was entertaining as well tho
The group of rude guys that were running over the top of people and slamming them to the ground that were eliminated after crossing the line were eliminated because they didn't stop when the music stopped. Fact. Also, adjudication reviews took a long time and players had to stand there for 30-40 minutes at a time before being eliminated.
The hole in the triangle door happened from a man that was running to choose the shape and ended up putting his palm into it too hard while losing balance.. WHAT ELSE?
At 8:53 u can see player 269 moved when someone got shot
I know, right? Of all the hundreds of hours of footage that they had, they showed us only a small fraction. But in some of the clips that supposedly show people not moving, we can still see some movement, which really makes me wonder about all the things that they didn’t show.
Idk why they’re complaining & trying to sue. I’d just be happy I got to go home & it didn’t end the way it did in the Korean show 💀💀💀
do they at least get paid even if they dont win ?
8:59 wait did that yellow black hair girl got elimated now why is she in later ep
She didn’t get shot
IF the creator is dump he will go everything's to your way. But it will make the game suck. The way they want the game is half to be air and still give the opportunity for the one who win. If they really want the game is for muscle man then they will create format like physic 100 which is who is stronger physical win. but this game is created for all , mental strong, relationship, and luck. The one who got lucky enough will be advance.
try and get an interview with roland!
You sound like Dr. Grande
Ha! I assure you that I’m not him, nor am I nearly as smart as him. But I do subscribe to his channels and enjoy his analysis of psychopaths and sociopaths… okay now I see how you came up with the comparison….
Plus, I’m sure he’s too busy creating new content for his channel than to split his time watching stupid reality shows and running a second side hustle RUclips channel with like 400 subscribers 😞
@@thesaltycobrathat’s exactly what an undercover doctor would say
😂 Just a reminder, I’m not making a diagnosis, just hypothesizing about what may be going on with you…. but I think you may have a classic case of paranoid delusional disorder…
Mai
I wanna like but its at 161...
I know it was rigged
First as always.
Yes you are!