Why I'm Selling My PANERAI after a Month
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
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I was a watch collector for years but the prices are so high now and all these watch channels in my feed encourage me to buy $7000+ watches on a regular basis. How many people can do this? Don’t you have other expenses like mortgage payments or your kid’s college tuition? Feels like a bubble and I’m out of the game. Such a shame because I still have my grails.
It’s definitely not a hobby for anyone who doesn’t have a considerable amount of disposable income.
It can be done if you are focused on your life. No debt, not buying with cards rather ewry exe. 2 ares yust put aside 300€,$ and you hawe 7000+€ and you don't feal it yust not buy stupid things. . Ewry hobby is expensive MTB full susp. Cost 4,500€ whic is on the fence and in 1 are you put 2,3t€ in bike. That I don't understand . 2 kids 4grand for bikes .😅that is robery. I wish for Christmas's Panerai 44 :)) yust one .
Totally agree with you!
Watch prices have increased over the moon. Glad that I purchased my SMP in 2020 during low price period and my Avenger Chrono 43 used for a very good price.
But I wouldn't buy the SMP for that current price... seems I am out of this game as well before it even started. But I am more than happy with my two stunning pieces❤
agreed, prices are crazy and over 1 or 2k you get less and less improvements for your money. Plus, the way some RUclipsrs talk about watches and how they make them feel...
The solution is to unsubscribe from these watch channels.
One thing I've learned is just as there's buyer's remorse, there is also seller's remorse. Many decide to sell a watch only to kick themselves later down the road. And sometimes they even offer to buy the watch back. Or hunt for another one elsewhere. It is also true that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and your story about the rugged dude wearing the more rugged watch reminded me of that. If you didn't already own it, had he been wearing yours I bet you still would have lusted after it. Both are great watches from a brand loaded with history. Neither one could be classified as a "mistake" purchase. Not by any means. YMMV. Keep up the fun content. I liked the video even before you reminded me!
Dude seriously. I wish I could go back in time on like 3 watches and not sell.
Well said. I regret all the watches I sold. I did sell them to buy other ones but looking back I know that I should have done the financial effort to buy the new ones without selling any of my watches.
true, I bought back a couple of watches (that is, the same model)
Keep the 915! An in-house movement with eight days of power reserve is phenomenal! No doubt that it’ll cost a bit to service, but that’s high horology for you
I own the 915. Great watch!!!
It’s not a high horology piece. Power reserve isn’t a complication, it’s easily the most over rated spec on the market. A massive PR only matters if you never wear the watch. Many Panerai don’t even have a seconds hand let alone a date window- so how hard is it to set the time? Either way in order to get the full power reserve time, you’ve got a couple options- one is you need to wear the bell out of your watch for several days, for a full work day and then some, or you need to do a whole lot of time winding the watch. All that just so you can put it away for a week and still come back to it running? Way overrated. The time spent winding a watch with such a PR, you could have set the date in time and been on to other things faster.
Don’t buy a watch based on specs alone.
@@waterfordrs22io la riserva di carica del mio 915 la trovo COMODISSIMA. E pazienza se ogni 9,5 giorni devo perdere 3-4 minuti x caricarlo !
@@albertopolini1970 If you’re wearing it actively for almost ten hours a day, sure it’s going to wind itself sufficiently to make it to the next day. That would be the case even if the power reserve was something more modest such as say 50-70 hours. No problem. You are wearing the watch daily and possibly relatively active. For someone who simply rotates through several watches a day or week (not my style) they would likely need to spend those three or four minutes winding the watch by hand. It’s a bit of a false economy if the watch is mostly sitting.
@@waterfordrs22you are absolutely f’ing. clueless. The 915 is a manual wind watch. It doesn’t have a rotor and it doesn’t wind itself when you wear it.
Funny about what you said about grade 2 titanium. I had the original blue pelagos that uses grade 2. I remember telling someone that it honestly felt like plastic at times. Like, it was so light, but there was something about the metal that almost felt fake. I couldn't quite describe it. Then I later had a Grand Seiko snowflake, and that titanium was luxurious and soft... wild what a difference it makes.
Hi Max,
I've learned over the years : my buying decision is mostly derived from the specs (case weight, caliber, etc.). However, what I ware is ALWAYS motivated by feelings. 177 all the way baby 😉
On a side note, I love your strap pairing, you really have an eye for this.
Nice video and thanks for sharing this! It's re-assuring to know that even a RUclips watch nerd can make missteps. Quick question. Where did you end up selling your watch? What's the best place to sell a pre-owned watch?
177 all the way! You can have the Unitas 6497 movement serviced by any competent watchmaker. As we know, Panerai never made watches (except for the Egiziano) but only supplied the dials. Rolex made the case and movement for Panerai. Also used were Cortebert and Angelus movements so it certainly would have made sense for Giuseppe Panerai (pretending he was alive and still owned Panerai today) to equip the watches with a unitas 6497 movement. Let’s not forget that these were bare-bones military watches made for human torpedo frogmen!
I recently bought a Panerai pam510 the 8 day and it’s amazing. It’s quickly become my favorite watch I own.
Thank you for sharing, I also have a PAM177 purchase in the early 2000s in Florence Italy. I love the titanium finish because its not too blingy like the stainless steel and its a strap monster.
I loved that video so much, it was like watching a master chef at work. The way they handled every element was so effortless and perfect, it was like they were dancing with the ingredients. And the final product was an absolute masterpiece, a symphony of flavors that left my taste buds singing. I'm so glad I watched that video, it was an experience I won't soon forget.
I think they are different enough to justify keeping both until you're ready to move on/up. So for now, enjoy both. I had a 310 and 244 at one point. I sold the 310 5 years later to fund an upgrade.
That's a really tough choice. I'm leaning towards the titanium case one as I have a titanium watch and I love the weight and how it's darker than the usual 316L steel.
Watching this video is exactly the same experience i had immediately my goal was set to have one and as years have gone by i still have it along with its other bros and brands. Love the panerais to this day and i can't help but smile watching this video because thats how i felt as well and it made me look back all those years where i was and doing at that time. Thanks for making this video and more power to ur channel.
The best solution to this conundrum is to keep both. The polished one, always on a fine leather strap. And the titanium with its rugged good looks on a rubber strap or that really cool strap that you have on in the video. They serve different purposes, so keep both.
But if I were in this enviable situation and could only keep one I'd keep the titanium one. It looks so damn good.
Hi Max! I seem to recall your wrist size as being about the same as mine (6.5"). Do you feel either/both of these can wear well on a wrist that size? IF I hadn't just dropped big $$ on the new model, I think I'd definitely pick the titanium old dog. I just love the flat, tool-ish look of it. But on the flip side, that new 8-day movement... Oh my, it IS a dilemma!! Let us know what you decide. Either way, both of those straps are 🔥🔥🔥!!
I know the feeling of you being in love with a new watch and suddenly you see another amazing one.. the story keeps on and on and it will continue. we will never be happy with only one watch.
Keep the 177 because of the way it makes you feel! It's unadulterated TOOL watch and you have other watches to fill that more dressy avocado-toast type of days. :) There are SO many great Pam watches out there so you can always pick up another one down the road if needed/wanted.
Yep, that's where I'll leaning
I absolutely get this.
To the point that the polished case is a deal breaker for me.
Even with sand which lume and a better movement
Matt finish, titanium are my prerequisites, no bigger than 44. Within those parameters I would consider the models they have.
Some like how a polished case gets scratched up but I don’t
Brushed looks the business 😎
👍 Esp for a sports watch. Polished for dress…
“A new band come sometimes trigger a new perspective” right on! Subbed as well👍
I’ve had my PAM 422 since 2015 and it still never gets old which I think is down to the rose gold hands, the acutely domed sapphire and how it refracts light at different angles on the hands makes them glow and float above the dial in a way over yet to see with other watches. Funny thing is, I never noticed this until after I bought and I’m so happy I did.
Get both if budget permits. They're different enough to warrant purchase. If not the one you own is a classic / timeless piece with better horo tech. Incidentally i'm considering the 2022 submersible luna rossa (blue dial). Have you seen? Do you have any thoughts?
For me, the 915 all day long. The thinness factor makes a huge difference. I also love it on that ostrich strap.
Yeah it's a beauty
@@WatchCrunchOfficial It wasn't until recently that Panerai closed the back on the 915. When it first came out it was an open case back. I know because I have one.
@@joakimdrake1677 Far out man, thank you for that!! I'm hunting my perfect PAM and a 915 just came up (V serial). It has exhibition case back, but online I see the 915 has a closed case back. That explains it!
Had a 176 for years (similar watch, without second hand of the 177). Issue I had was it's a one-trick pony. Polished/brushed watches have more variety in appearance when swapping straps. And on the strap point, finding Ti buckles isn't the easiest, and they never come on or with a strap, even from the vast majority of the best makers. That said, a simple fiberglass brushing makes it look new again, and the patina is killer as it develops. So, I'd have one again today without hesitation; just not as my primary. Daily now is the Palm Beach 466, which ticks most boxes for me other than the painted dial.
Bought new Luminor Chronograph Pam01109 at an AD (Nov 2023)....my favorite daily now even over my sea-dweller anniversary. I want to say that I have wanted a Panerai for years, not necessarily this model, and finally pulled the trigger (also an impulse buy). I actually get a lot of compliments on it (especially from watch enthusiasts). The distinctive case you can see from across the room is really the key to these watches (sort of like the Rolex date bubble) but the overall look and feel is just lux/high quality.
I can relate to your progression into PAMs. I too love the 44mm luminor in Ti. It just makes it more wearable. I have the PAM116 base dial in tobacco. Relatively produced in much smaller numbers and the only Panerai that has remained through the years in my collection. Congrats on the 177!
I totally understand how you are feeling and it's a difficult choice to make. I am currently shopping for a Panerai and after trying on a few, its the brushed metal to does it for me. I like the rugged feel it gives and the feeling I get when wearing this. I would go for the 177 for the looks and the feeling it gives you.
Brushed is the way to go!
Views on the 1226 white dial sub?
I bought my luminor GMT on a steel bracelet and it matches to Panerai database but I never opened it or looked inside it. It’s on the steel bracelet. I personally love it because it has a big and boisterous Italian personality just like me. Over time the polish on the face has maintained its glimmer and shine while the casing gets scuffed from use over the years and dulls. I haven’t tried any other straps because the steel bracelet is rare and lovely.
As a 177 owner, I sold my original 105 Base model because I also fell in love with the titanium case and the ability to brush out blemishes. I am now 15 years into the 177 and I will never ever let go of this watch. I am sure I would feel the same way about the 176 (same watch, without the second hand).
I need to look into how to get rid of scratches
Thanks for making this video. I’m a small time collector with some pretty nice pieces. I bought my personal “holy grail” a year ago with the Rolex GMT Batgirl (terrible nickname). Sadly, people like us never stop looking to the next watch so here I am. Years ago, my wife bought me a leather strapped Sinn aviator watch. Black strap, case and face. I love it but I’ve also been wanting a Panerai but something different. Maybe the new Radiomir Quaranta with the white face. I’m not sure about the overlay face. Maybe a stainless case gray face Luminor. I JUST DONT KNOW. Sometimes I’ll buy an homage watch just to get the feel before dropping a ton on a watch.
Ok, I’ll stop rambling. I really appreciate your take on watches. To be as knowledgeable about them without the pomposity is a gift! Please keep it up!
great video and I love the subtle emotion you exhibit while talking about these watches. We can tell you love them both.
Do the right thing...bring the PAM 177 to our next watch meet and let me take a closer look at it...and then give it a nice home 😃🙌
I definitely understand what you are saying about trying a new watch strap. I have a favorite watch bracelet with straight end links. And whatever watch I put it on, in my collection, suddenly becomes my favorite watch. I think I like the bracelet almost more than the watches.
Which bosphorus strap is that on 177? Patina canvas grey? Thanks.
I too get the buyers remorse. I recently returned a piece, a very expensive piece at that. I kept it in its case and I didn't remove any of the plastic protection coatings on the bracelet, case or back. Luckily for me I am a good client of the business so they gladly refunded me and happily took the watch back. 2 days later I went back in and purchased my first choice , so it's safe to say go with your gut and if you are doubtful at purchasing like I was don't do it just for the impulsive action.
Hey can I ask what is the exact model of the Ostrich strap and the canvas strap did you order from Bosphorus strap please?
I’ve 914 which I’m hoping to dress up.
Ostrich patina coffee
Thank you! Can I trouble you about the canvas one? Both of them look beautiful!.
Btw I’m a huge fan of Pam 176/177 too.
And that I decided to reacquaint myself with Panerai and got ten 914 because of your video on your 915.
Haha - Bought my 177 a dozen years ago and still love it! Great seeing you speak of it 👍
I’ve got the titanium base model 176. Love it. Titanium all the way. The older case is more brutish, the newer models are too refined.
I’m trying to find this watch now to see it in person to see how it fits my wrist. So far no luck
I'm now in the process of letting go of my Luminor Due 42mm, a true jewel and a piece of art, but I want something more rugged - I don't want my PAM to be limited just as a dress watch. After a deep dive into PAMs, I've found a 111 that could be mine for a nice price. Note, I plan to wear this mainly on summer season, meaning I can wear t-shirts and other light clothing so that the bulkiness will not interfere with the winter jacket's sleeve or anything, and the shiny steel case will have it's opportunity to glimmer in the sun.
For winter I have thin Panerai inspired microbrand watch - a titanium Andersmann Classic, darker tone and warmer to the skin. Having a 177 as a winter watch could be an (expensive) option as well, maybe in the future? :D
Nice video and congrats! I continue to both love and hate Panerai. Love the watches but really dislike the corporate leaders mismanagement of the brand. But, all that said, I get why you’d want one (me too!). I honestly think I prefer the 915, but I understand your choice!
I have a 176. It has quickly risen to one of my favorite daily/vacation watches. It’s lightweight, you don’t have to worry about it when going to the ocean, SUPER comfy to wear esp on the OEM rubber, under the radar (let’s face it not everyone knows panerai). Keep the 177. Word of advice - get the army green panerai rubber strap - thank me later. Hit me up with any questions!
This is so painful man. I feel for you. I don't know how you live like this in such dilemma.
Just a correction; Panerai uses Grade 2 Titanium on their models.
Agreed that you have to experience many different watches to learn what your tastes really are. You discover your tastes and then sometimes they change and you have to discover that too. Both watches are great. Slight nod to the 177 because of the decreased weight.
Frustratingly part of the journey
I do own a PAM177. The PAM1122 is the only other Panerai, which I did consider. But it was impossible to get.
I would love to see a new titanium 44mm, 300m water resistant ,Luminor with sandwich dial and normal white lumen.
The Panerai swingers metaphor was wild
After significant research a pre-owned 177 was my first Panerai. Love it. And will keep it forever as it was my first entry. I think you can justify keeping both. At some point you may want to introduce other panerai cases. I have my eye on a pure no-seconds radiomir 45, model number TBD.
This might sound goofy… I modded an SKX a couple years ago. I’d fallen out of love with it until… Uncle Seiko arrived at my door with a custom curved waffle rubber strap.
As for the Panerai, I agree that the Ti is maybe more “tooly”… maybe you have an office Panerai and a beach/ hiking/ weekend Panerai. Totally get that “office Panerai” probably ranks it lower on the office watch list, but there might be a day that you’ve got something going on that requires that feel…
Looks great, both watches. I assembled a look alike myself with a Unitas 6497 movement clone. Saves me a lot of money and I don't have to think about selling the watch or not :)
Hi Max. I personally prefer your first buy since I never liked titanium cases. It gives a “dirty aspect” to the watch in my opinion. I owned a Luminor Marina since about 17 years now and I still love it. My only regret is that I owned a manual winding one that I don’t wear often enough just because the hand winding drives me crazy, but otherwise the watch looks great 😊. Actually I’m going right now to my safe to get it. I’m going to wear it for awhile ☝️
Completely agree about Titanium. It feels too light and cheap on the wrist ... like a plastic Swatch. You need some heft in an expensive time piece.
Personally, on a smaller wrist, the thinner case of the 915 is going to be a better wear despite the heavier weight.
The titanium version looks great and it does not feel too light. After all it's a big watch. I saw that Panerai mention grade 2 and 5 on the website, so I asked them directly. As standard they use grade 2, unless it's polished, then it needs to be grade 5. The PAM00564 also has the 8-day movement and an exhibition case back.
do they have sandwich dial? i see some photho with and some without...
@@broondulyak. the older versions of the titanium model tend to have it, the newer ones don’t. The numerals are recessed though and filled with lume
I'm currently deep into Panerai research, and it's actually beyond confusing with all the references, so it's understandable that the PAM177 slipped past you. I always thought a 44mm Pam on my barely 7-inch wrist would be too big, but having recently tried on a 45mm Rad I realised I was worrying about nothing! Ideally I'd prefer a 42mm Luminor but I don't care for the 1950 case shape, so I've narrowed my options down to a PAM111 or PAM183, both sandwich dial, exhibition case back, same movement, effectively the same watch just Luminor vs Radiomir, but the Titanium PAM177 is also a contender. The hunt continues...
My view - Keep the PAM177... because it's a better looking / feeling watch 🙂
Good luck on your pam journey 🤞
I really want a 1226 or 2223 - but just think Panerai is living in the past - at $6500-7000 my order would be in - just don’t have the value of Rolexes (yeah, I know I can’t get one at MSRP) in the $9000-11000 range.
What's your wrist measure? I have a 6.5 inches wrist and I didn't put a Panerai on it yet! What do you think? Much appreciated!
6.5 as well
My first Valentines Day with my now wife was a Kings game where she saw Gretzky play. Not very romantic but if she’s experiencing buyer’s remorse she’s done a great job of hiding it the past 28 years.
Replace Panerai with Omega, and my journey was the same. PO, SM300, AT GMT. Then I found a 2000-ish SM GMT 50th. Settled.
Hey luv the channel. Your “try a new strap” suggestion is spot-on to my experience. Keep up the great work!
That 177 is legendary... just had to snag one as my first panerai but it seems like the ultimate version of what the brand should be in my mind
Two excellent videos (915 and 177). I don’t think you have buyers remorse. I think you’re becoming Paneristi. You like the 915 so much, you immediately start looking for your next Panerai.
I found this really useful. I was thinking a lot about getting a 915 and tried one on (loved it) but there was also a 564 Titanium 8 Days for sale which I was watching too. The sellers discounted that this week and it was too good to resist any longer and it’s now on my wrist. Love it! Can’t now justify a 915… yet…
PAM177 owner here, my vote goes to the 177 (I'm biased since it's my favorite watch), BUT I would very much like a polished Luminor for dressier occasions and leave the Titanium one on to daily duties. However, overall I would very much like the blue dial Marina but from a value point of view my next watch is going to be Grand Seiko SBGR321
For versatility I bought the Quaranta, 40mm Luminor, it has now become glued to my wrist.
Have had the PAM682 Submersible for over 3 years no regrets; it's my most-worn watch by far. If anything I might add a rose gold + brown dial or a steel + white dial Panerai.
Nice. Like the rough one brushed even more 😊
Dude, why you go and cheat on your first love? Just keep both. They are both amazing pieces… you’re so detail oriented you’ll always be able to discern /appreciate the subtle differences .
Overanalysis is my brand 😅
Generally I prefer the older Panerai because for me it's the PAM character that endears them to me, and the older models just have more of that.
I have the Navy Seal version (don’t know the number designated) but when I was trying on models it jumped out at me. It looked rugged. It’s my favorite everyday watch hands down.
Keep the 177 for sure, i would sell the 915 for a 2 hander base model like a 112 or if you like the newer stuff then a 914... better yet a 372 if your wrist can handle it..
The 177 is iconic imo. It was one of the first watches I chased and never was able to find one. Then I began to think about the balance between dressier and playful or tool looks. That’s why I wound up getting the 1351 which is a titanium watch
"Avocado eating city boy" - Love it. It would be inetersting to see a bead blasted 915 caseset!
When I bought my Omega Seamaster Professional 300M in the Chrome dial color way, I had a lot of mixed feelings. It was my first true luxury watch, it was the watch I wanted, and it marked a significant moment in my life. But the honeymoon was rocky: I spent a substantial amount of money on a watch, I bought an unpopular color way, it felt as if it was as EDC as I first believed it to be. 4 years later, I'm wearing it almost everyday, swapping between rubber and bracelet. I've grown to love it and even enjoy the dings and scratches it has accumulated, giving it a unique patina to me.
Last year I was buying my first Panerai. And I would say i pick up the right one. Pam560 with painted dial, 8 days of power reserve and 300 hundred meters water resistance. I don’t get why panerai is changing in this case
My watch and I tried counselling first before looking at new straps, glad to report it worked!
i'll keep that PAM917 and sell the PAM 915 . titanium is just sweet on panerai as what you mentioned , its size . it gives that low key yet amazing watch . you jump to the ocean with that PAM 917 man , shows your passionate for that model :)
In a world full of Omega's, Rolexes, and Grand Seikos, it is refreshing to see a Panerai's video. Thanks. I love my PAM1314.
I have a 915 that I just got in April. I'm trilled with it. The 8 days of power reserve is hard to beat.
I know right?!
I daily wear a 176 G series. Call me biased but I 100% prefer the matte toned down full titanium over the polished SS. The titanium patinas very well. I use a white ink eraser or super fine steel wool on small scratches that bother me.
When I decided to go panerai, I wanted an open caseback, sandwich dial, time only manual wind. It was the PAM0111 that I wanted, until I saw the 177 - the matte titanium and dial felt like panerai. And preowned for 4K? Yes please. Still my only panerai. And may be the only one I ever “need.”
I don't see it as a buyer's remorse. I see the discovery of the 177 as a different experience altogether and should be separate from your ownership of the 915. The range of Panerai watches is so vast that you'd get a different kind of feel with different ones, even with the same case designs but with different materials or even finishes. (You should try one of those PAMs with brushed Brunito steel. Still steel but feels and wears very differently). I suggest keeping and enjoying both for a while.
I need to know more about the strap on that 177. A perfect rugged strap for a perfect rugged watch.
Take the 915 to a good jeweler and have him brush the case.
They are way too similar to keep them both IMO. The ti version is much cooler and it sounds like it gives you that Panerai feel/experience more than the steel. No one gets a Panerai to feel subtle or refined. Go big (ti) and cash out on the shiny steel.
Did you consider the 564? Same power reserve as the 915 and an in-house movement over the 177…
I have a number of Panerai including a very old Luminor from post WWII. The Panerai is a classic with history. Just getting one or two in the collection is great but not needed. I have Rolex, Omega, Breitling and Seiko as well. Nothing makes me excited any more. To me they are all just time pieces. Most of my collection are historic like the Panerai. But the Omegas are 007 James Bond from the beginning to the last movie. This included the gold Gruen from the very first two movies. The Rolex are also collected because of the 007 movies. My father sat my younger brother and myself down inside the DB9 Austin Martin for the movie Goldfinger. By the way, Panerai started out with the ETA 6497 movement way up into I think either the 1990s or early 2000s. So the copies are very accurate to the originals.
Personal preference. 915 better overall imo with straps more catered to day to day and dressier look. 177 more rugged and more one dimension even with different straps. Just depends what you’re looking for. I think you have way better options to achieve this rugged look from Pam or different brands than 177. I recently got the 511 precious gold but was going to go for 915
Keep the 915, I have the 111 you made me re-think the same thing watching the 177 on you but after watching the titanium on your wrist by the end of the video I just like the shinier one more. It’s more original, looks more luxurious and the contrast of rugged strap and dial against the shiny bezel makes it pop just right. The titanium looks rugged but it also looks cheap and nit genuine for some reason, better yet keep the 915 and get a titanium PAM01305 but it might be too big at 47mm.
whats that panerai homage that has a skull on the dial
Good to see a watch youtuber who isn't jumping onto the "I hate panerai" bandwagon. Beautiful watches you have there. Maybe keep both? One for coffeehouse outings and the other for jungle trouble? By the way, shouldn't a quintessential Panerai be 47" and base? Maybe a 372?
And thanks for recommending bosphorus leather. They do have beautiful selections.
Whats the background song?
I prefer that satin finished 177, sorry, it seems to make the watch appear smaller. Panerai look great on Corriga straps, they are also not cheap, but they have sales sometimes.
I got my grail Rolex Thunderbird many years ago. Should've stopped then, lots of other watches now that I like, but starting to regret the whole lot - except the Thunderbird. I think I'll feel better about all this if I cull down to a tight little collection, and then move on to another obsession
Hey! My brother is the only other person I know with a Thunderbird. Has the blue dial with Romans. What a watch. Got it about 1999 or so
Strap wise: ostrich leather is beautiful but for every leather chosen there’s a visual impact:
1: plain (high quality, silky smooth, etc.)
2: ostrich leg: (very complex patterns: rough scales and/or feather plucked: very affirmatif statement), a bit like horned alligator
3: ostrich feather plucked: very rich pattern which we often see on Patek Philippe watches(tobacco colored)
Of course these are all available in a variety of colors.
These in high grade come around: $200 + figures, waiting time is a few months!
Sadly we didn’t see your properly ! 😢
Each of your watches have a special look, if you can try to keep both 👍
Both watches look awesome for different reasons the first has the shiny new look and will great as long a you keep it looking shiny and new ,but when it gets dinged and scratched it will look it’s appeal , but eventually it will develop what my South African fiancé refers to as ( hoeding) I’ve surely spelled it wrong) patina ,mileage, attitude . The titanium one already has it , its the truck that you got for 500 bucks and has 500,000 miles on it and still goin strong !!!
I have PAM118. Like 177 it's Titanium but with a tobacco dial. I wouldn't trade it for new one. Not about specs its about feel at end of day. Also in house Panerai has no credibility. ETA is cheaper and easier to service plus vintage and neo vintage Panerai never had in house movements. It was always Rolex or ETA. The brand is about dials, lume, and cases at the end of the day. So go for feel not for movement specs.
The luminor case design is by far my favorite of all time. I used to own one. However their new “in house” movements are pretty much still 3rd party. They are way overpriced at retail. Getting a preowned at a discount is the way to go. Glad you found one you love.
Good one! Sorry about buyer's remorse, I've been lucky in that regard. I say hold onto it for a bit. Put the watch aside and come back to it.
I like the video. It gets me thinking of looking into Panerai, but I don’t like them. But you got me to think about it!
192 hours, btw.
I looked across and saw another person wearing a panerai. Where exactly are you?
I wouldn't get to a first date with a Panerai. ps. I get 192 hours for 8 days, or do they advertise 196 hours?
You need a Different dating pool 😉
@@WatchCrunchOfficial 😄 I prefer smaller and less chunky.
Panerai only claims 8 days of power reserve. You seem to be the only one who dared to challenge his arithmetic so far.
Based on your own words used to describe the watches, it seems pretty obvious you prefer the 177's brushed aesthetic.
Objectively there is no right or wrong answer here. It's entirely personal. Watches have never been about specs alone, especially when deciding between 2 near identical watches.
The one thing I'd say before you fully commit to swapping for the 177 is be absolutely sure you're ok with the extra thickness. That's one of those things that's easy to look past when you see it on someone else or in pictures but might hit different on your own wrist. Give it time to consider.
Thicc with a purpose👍