480bhp Porsche 911 (997) Turbo Gen 1.5 - Review and Roadtest
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In this video I get to drive a 911 for the first time and its a stunning Porsche 911 Turbo ! This car is a 997 Gen 1.5 Turbo. That means it has the engine from the Gen 1 car with the improved interior from the Gen 2. The perfect combination !
I give you an overview of the inside and outside of this stunning car and then take it out on the road and talk through the various driving modes available. Let's just say it's FAST !!! 480bhp with 620nm. It will do 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and tops out at just over 190mph !!
I want to say a huge thanks to Chris Thwaites and the guys at Harbour Cars for letting me film and drive this car. I appreciate your support and hope I have done the car justice with this film.
This car is for sale so if you are interest in it or any of their vehicles then get in touch...they certainly know their stuff.
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My best mate has the 1.5 in black, manual,, it's a crazy car! That engine is nuts 👀😳.
I have a 997 c2s with various upgrades but the turbo 1.5 is brilliant... The only car to ever surprise me by its kick at the back😳. And the grip... Holly cricket... This thing just grips the road as if it was on rail 😳
I own a 2007 997.1 Turbo with manual gearbox, ceramics, sports exhaust and a mild DMS remap (560bhp). Owned it 7 years and still love every moment driving it. A very fast A to B car, compact, fast, awesome braking, buy one before the prices go silly (they're already on the up).
+W42PZ That sounds awesome 👍
Absolutely agree with you on everything, i have an original millenium edition 911 C4 and i have owned it for nearly 16 of its 18 years and i still love it, i am looking for something a little quicker (mind you not that i need it as it is, as you know, quick all around) maybe a 6 to 8 year old turbo or 991 C4S. Thanks fro sharing, cheers
Does the tune (DMS remap and the sports exhaust) make a big difference? I will go see a 997 Turbo later this week and I have been browsing remaps for the car. It already has a sports exhaust, but they didn‘t tune the engine. I have already been in touch with DMS about it, though.
Very true. .1 prices in 6 spd are now $100k for low mileage ones :(
The 911. An everyday super car and quite possibly THE only one. Porsche know just how to make the 911. They've been doing it for decades and they just get better and better.
EDIT - Did we like this video as much as you did driving it? Hell no!! Totally jealous mate. Great video though of probably my top car ever. Only the Turbo S tops it!!
You are doing a proper back catalogue :-)
Loved this car !
Great video
I have a 6sp 997.1 TT
You nailed the review - very accurate
Cheers Oliver. I'd reviewed to 991 Turbo S too...that was awesome !
I have a manual 997 Turbo. Love it to bits and the manual is way better than auto.
I had a 996 turbo tech art and loved it had it 6 years which is about 5 and a half years longer than anything else ive had
I feel the exact same. I'm at 3.5 years on my 996tt and don't think I'll ever get rid of it!!!
i have one too. Wonderful car in every respect, remap ECU and K24 Turbos, 560 BHP! And I think it looks far nicer than the 997 turbo, the original Pinkie Lai design is beautiful.
Another great review agree totally 911 iconic vehicle. Everyday Supercar.
If you want a Porsche, Harbour Cars is a pretty good place to get one from! Very nice folk to deal with.
They are indeed 👍
Great video, really enjoy it. I e just bought a 996 Turbo from a garage near Guildford. He had a 997 Turbo Gen 1.5 which he was trying his hardest to sell me in White it looked and drove like the dogs bits and bobs amazing. But I think they will still drop £ for a while so I got the 996. But that's what I want next. Best engine and best interior. Also they didn't make many, surely a future classic.
+Paul Scott They are great cars. I'm sure over time they will become classics. Prices are already on the up.
A 'throaty throb'....cannae whack it mate as we say in Scotland....a gorgeous car, and a good wee video....cheers mate! 👍👍👍
Love it ! Need to work that in my next review :-)
I own a tiptronic Turbo and they are fine. Quicker than a manual and twenty grand cheaper than PDK. If they were that bad why are so many auto. A truly brilliant car, ignore what people say about the tip. These cars will only go one way once people realise how bland the new ones are. A future classic, and a great accurate review, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I have owned both PDK and Tiptronic...the PDK is vastly superior
Bought a black 997.1 turbo.
I drove the manual and tiptronic but i actually prevered the tiptronic.
Anyway you cant go wrong with both of them.
I owned a Audi R8 v8 but this car is much,much faster!
Its an absolute underestimeted beast. Get one now becouse prices WILL go up!!
Very nice and informative review! I didn‘t know a 1.5 version existed. Keep up the good work!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it 👍
You did not know it because it doesn’t exist. Officially even 997.1 or .2 don’t - it’s just car geek jargon. Like most of german car manufacturers, Porsche has facelift in mid life of all it’s cars.
@@tomistenvall9782009 is the only year considered 1.5.. Has mezger and PSM( nav info, touchscreen) for . 997.2.. best of both worlds.. low production numbers .. instant classic
I've just this car,you want to know how hard this thing goes,standing start,push sport mode,put car in drive now pull gear lever to the right,your now in manual mode check the dash make sure your in 1st,take a deep breath, now floor it and watch the rev counter once you hit red line hit the gear lever left ,spec's say this car will do 0 to 100km in 12.1 seconds, believe me it will do it in 11 seconds neat,
If you don't put the car in manual mode and you take off in drive,your taking off in second gear,mines completely stock,love it every time I drive it,
You mean 0 to 200 km in 12 sec. which I don't believe, because the car is doing 0 to 100 km in 3.1 sec!!
I have the same car 997.1 turbo with tiptronic and i can tell you Andy is right!! Its a absolute beast!
I drove both the manual and the tiptronic and i prefered the tiptronic for more than one reason.
Its a very underestimated car and the prices are going up.
Cool stuff. On the tip although it normally pulls off in 2nd gear to aid smoothness you can select first on the steering wheel using the button and remain in auto. So good in auto can't normally be bothered with the buttons pass selecting first if I am on it. Tip learns your driving styles and two rapid quick taps of the accelerator brings you down two gears. If you are not a driving god, tip is great.
You're really getting some great content, and I'm really glad you are getting to have all of these experiences and clearly be enjoying it so much :D another fantastic video, and excited for the future Porsche content!!
Hi Charlotte. Thanks again for the positive comments and support. You always take the time to comment. Glad you enjoyed the vid and hope to keep the good stuff coming 😜👍
Praise where praise is due :) happy that you're giving people the chance to see things they might not be able to get to themselves, like Goodwood this weekend for me haha. I hope you enjoy it :D
+Charlotte Moss I'll be at Moving Motorshow tomorrow hopefully bringing you all the new car releases and FoS Saturday and Sunday.
The turbo is a pussy-cat, until it isn't! Once you drop the hammer...well you'll see. :) The turbo with a tiptronic isn't a wrong choice and 95% of the time, if you are an urban dweller. it is the right choice. The CEO of Porsche said the Turbo is for the successful 50 year old who has been there and done that. I got mine at 49, so I guess he knows what he is talking about. As in this video, mine is a 2009 as well, tiptronic, black on tan interior, same spec minus the rear wiper (I have never seen a 911 here in the USA with a wiper) and carbon fiber steering wheel. It is a keeper for sure!
I am looking for a '07 997 turbo and your review definitely helps me making my decision. : )
That's great to hear...its a great car !
I have the Cab version of this car with ceramic brakes, tip unfortunately, but still awesome. I have a 2012 Coupe with PDK. They are both amazing cars, and if I had to sell one, it would make for sleepless nights. I love the ceramic brakes, and zero brake dust. I love the PDK in the 997.2. The 09 feels more old school with the Tip, and is detectably not as fast as the 2012, but is plenty fast enough for a Cab, and I rarely use it with the top up. These are great cars for the money, and should hold their value now. Great review, thanks.
Thanks Rick 👍
This must be a 2009 with the updated interior and mezger engine. My ultimate favourite year and model for a 911 (though I'd take mine with a 6 speed manual).
Yep...that's right 👍
Yes they are epic-ally fast, granted they are not a Ferrari or Lamborghini or McLaren, but then again those cars aren't practical for every day use and you constantly have to worry about costs and the initial cost output in the beginning opposed to a Porsche which is actually an affordable sports car. P.S. I owned a Ferrari 550 for a few years and looking back it seems like it spent more time in the spring and winter in the shop for maintenance, tuning, and other repairs were as the 911 i have (or my Audi A6) have just been gas, tires, brakes, and continue to drive with the occasional oil change (every 3k-5k, 7k-10k in the 911 according to the book), and every 2-4 years a brake fluid and coolant flush, and that has pretty much been the extent of it. This is how it should be, and you should get to drive the car you love more than you spend in time at the shop, this is just one reason why you don's see many Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, McLaren's, etc with more than 20k-30k miles on them and that is because of all the constant maintenance you really run out of time to actually drive the cars. Porsche, there really is no substitute.
I could not agree more! I haven't been fortunate to own exotic cars such as Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Maserati or McLarens, but I have a Porsche 911 c2s and it could easily be used as a daily driver. Not that I would as I work from home🤣 most of the time these days, but with a Porsche you can just do that, whilst with any other exotic cars you'd be scared and you'd spend an absolute fortune in servicing costs! Obviously, Porsche prices aren't the same as what you pay for your workhorse Vauxhall (for example) but the cost is nowhere near what you'd pay with a Ferrari/McLaren, Lambo etc... Furthermore, given the state of our roads in the UK (but in Europe too), I have no idea why one would need a Ferrari/McLaren etc... A Porsche might not necessarily be faster (depending on the model) but you can't drive much these days, anywhere! In Germany you could have a blast on the autobahn ok, but fast on a straight line is fun for 2 min and then what?!? Even a Porsche is hard to really fully appreciate on our roads, as these are so busy, let alone a Ferrari... And on top of that, you'd look like a rich so and so in one of those, whilst the Porsche is relatively acceptable and more mainstream...
Wow this one of my all time favourite super cars, that one you tested was awesome what a bargain at that price too if I start saving now on my bus drivers wages I'll own one by the time I am errr dead!!!!! Great video Peter and what looks a great Porsche(and Merc) garage to visit next time I am close to Chichester, thanks for making another brilliant video.
My pleasure Rob. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Certainly was a superb car and one my favorites too.
Love the vid keep them coming
Rich
Cheers mate. Will do 👍
I notice your videos get longer the more expensive/powerful the car is... Very good mate. Whilst I'm slightly jealous I'm much better educated about some of the powerful cars out there.
I had to leave loads on the cutting room floor. I know it's a bit long but couldn't help myself !!
What they are like to drive.....Hmmm, basically they are how every car should be, easy, quick, flexible and fun
Have fun with it, i have yet to run into a "bad" 911, all are fun and akin to going to see an old college friend
Absolutely love the spa shirt close to my all time favorite car. But I'm the manual transmission guy. And I'm not a fan of four wheel drive cars. That means a simple Carrera S is my dream car. But as a working class American I settle for a simple Volkswagen GTI. I know when your last comment to me you said the Aston Martin was your favorite car. That you had driven to that point Porsche the winningest sports car manufacture in racing history. The every day super car but as a working class American slob. I absolutely love your reviews most Americans wouldn't understand The incredible corners that are listed on your shirt. And here in the US you'll never find one of those shirts. With the working class budget that would be about the only thing I could afford. lol
Hi Jason. Many people say the Carrera 2S is the best all round Porsche you can get. A Golf GTi is a cracking car also ;-)
You can get the t-shirt from the following web site AND they ship to the US :-)
www.shotdeadinthehead.com/pistonheads-corners-3-t-shirt.html
Excellent review ! sub'd and looking forward for more from you ! very well spoken and I loved the content. well done
5abivt Thanks. Have a look for the other Porsche reviews I've done. Including the 991 Turbo S 😎
Great review again. I'd love one of these too but will have to wait for the kids to grow up! S4 will suffice for now.
Snap...but without having to wait for the kids to grow up !!
Have one in Cobalt for the past 4 years. Spot on review and subscribed. Are you gunna be reviewing the 991.1 Turbo anytime soon?
Nearly drove another lovely 997 Turbo last week and just waiting for my slot from Porsche GB to get hold of the new 992 Turbo S 👍
Hello sire. Now that looked fun. Loved that Merc. Growl all the way. We had a go in one of those about 4yrs ago. Sounded awesome. I will get a razz in a Porsche some day.
One of my older vids this 👍
2009 is the 1 5 car. The manual trans today at 30k miles is $135k..
Welcome to the world of Porsche. I knew you'd get to try one of these sooner or later. Great car even with the 'wrong' gearbox. Wonder how long before you get one.....
I quite liked the gearbox but would prefer a manual 😎
I drove both but prevered the tiptronic more...
If you'd like to try PDK (with proper paddles on the steering wheel!), and we can sort out insurance, you'd be welcome to try/review my 997.2 Targa 4S.
Hi Paul. Wow, thanks for the offer. I'd love to try the PDK. Where do you live ?
Pasm - the suspension becomes firmer but the ride height does not drop..
Thank you very much I really do appreciate that address very much.
Good job. Subscribed.
Many thanks and Welcome !
A reminder - car people always want to know the year of the vehicle. I didn't hear that you mentioned it. Looks like an '08?
That has the upgraded pcm. So 2009 to 2012.
@@Opalivian impossible
You should drive a manual car before purchasing this. It feel much faster and it will be way more engaging to drive. Nice video btw
Is it possible to convert it to manual
Did Porsche sell them as Gen 1.5 or is this a Gen 1 with an after-purchase facelift on the interior?
The 997.1.5 is only really desirable as a manual. If you are going auto the PDK 997.2 is where it’s at.
I drove the manual version 911 turbo and it's much better than the Tiptronic.
I have the an Audi A6 3.0 TFSI Tiptronic and that trans kills the great engine.
Was the 997 turbo Gen 1.5 back in 2009 available option in the USA? What is an easy way to tell when searching 2009 997 turbo that it is a gen 1.5 and not a gen 2? Meaning searching from the VIN or some identification mark other than physically being there to inspect if it's a DI or the older gen 1 motor.
Just come across this old review - not sure if you’ve driven many 911’s since - but your review was spot on - I’ve spent a lot of time driving 997’s, and for me the Turbo is the most disappointing of the range, and doesn’t give you the joy of a 911 - and that’s completely down to the lack of noise ... best 997 is arguably the base Carrera (like the one on my drive at the moment 😂)
Hi James. I have been lucky to drive quite a lot of 911s since including 991 S, 4S Cab, Turbo S and GT3 RS. I tonights video I drive a 991 Targa 4S along side a Maserati Grand Turismo in a guide to buying a used supercar. The Targa has a sports exhaust and sound totally stunning. Great to drive and I now love 911s VERY much :-) The GT3 RS was toally off the scale and I was lucky enough to drive it on circuit !
Petrol Ped oh of course - looking forward to it - 100% 911 for me ... Snog, marry, avoid ... snog the Maser - marry the 911 😂
What is the difference between 997.1 and 1.5 ? And .2?! Nice video
997.1 is the true 997
.1.5 is with .2 inside upgrades
.2 is changes inside and out
Thankssss
Can’t believe this video is 6 years old, that exact same spec car will cost you the exact same price of 58k today! 07/03/2023
I know right 😳
Nice!, You're looking a little spaced out around the 10 min mark in the video. Was it really that good?
Oh yes...so good and I didn't really get to give it the berries. Superb handling and feel but it was the speed...really something else !
This video aged well. Only thing I would change is if it was a manual
Yep 👍
I can get one of these for a good price but mileage is 118k is that too much ?
Hope you on commission for Harbour Cars
Haha saw the cup holders on Shmee's video about the GT4
I know, just seen it myself !! I filmed this last weekend so beat him to it but it did make my chuckle that we liked the same thing !
bet you didnt find the acceleration that different to the remapped bmw 435d you were in?
Nope, about the same :-)
Even with the pdk version I tried, at least to 70 was very similar, then the turbo pdk starts to make use of his higher hp. needless to say a remapped 997 turbo pdk, would probably make u feel the difference especially at higher speeds!
Take a look at JayEmm recent review of the 997 turbo tiptronic. Enough said!
Jayemm is a moron thou
@@TrustMeIKnowEverything What has he done or said that stupid exactly?
@@niall3973 just listen to the video.
;-; noice vid though
Thanks 👍
That or the Boxster!
Oh the 911 by miles ! Sadly though there is a £40k price difference between them so for the money the Boxster is a bargain !
Pdk was not an option on that car your wrong there my friend.
car is amazing... just remove that rear wiper ... :)
his finger nails are disgusting but apart from that one of the best reviews iv seen
Really ?! They just grow quickly :-)
I'll keep them trimmed from now on but I'm glad you liked the review !
Freaking disgusting nails
Tip. No thx.
Mezger Mezger Mezger! My only hate about 911 fan boys and drivers. The engines on the 997.1 suffer bore scoring and coolant pipe issues.
Before the whole “it’s more tuneable” crap starts, most the people who tune these will do an exhaust and filter and that’s it. Granted they are very tuneable but wasn’t the right engine for the 997 chassis.
The Gen2 was a more well rounded car. Better engine and better gearbox. Not as tuneable as the Mezger but a better engine for a road car where the Gen1 was a GT1 engine that was showing its age in the 997.1!
The manual system seems a huge letdown. Is there any way if you bought this car to have it converted to use the paddles?
Great video btw.
If I were to buy a car like that I think I would have to get the manual
I don't know Eddie but I doubt it very much as the paddles came with the PDK gearbox which is a different gearbox. The Tiptronic system works really well though. I do like a manual change, nothing like swapping cogs yourself !
+Petrol Ped what they should be bringing back into every single sports car is a proper gated manual gearbox. Sat in a manual ftype the other day and the gear stick slightly disappointed me
You can retrofit the Gen.2 PDK steering onto the gen.1 cars. It's been done many times. Check out 911uk.com for details.
There's a guy on 911 UK forum who was selling steering wheels modified with Mercedes AMG alloy paddles wired to the original tiptronic system!
I believe it gave a more positive feeling to the gear change!
Auto Tragic? Oh no, how does it compare with Pdk?
Ride height doesn't drop on thst car when you press pasm. Are you clueless or what. Learn what you are talking about before talking trash
Too bad it's tiptronic. PDK is the only way to go
Agreed :-)
Lost interest completely when you said 30 seconds in its a tipronic. Put a Buick transmission in one of the best super cars ever made. Next! Bye bye.
Tiptronic? Bye.
not a manual :(
Nope. Those fly out of the show room 😎
Dislike because it's not the manual or the PDK, just kidding, I liked, but seriously tiptronic sucked
At the time I drove this car I hadn't driven a PDK so didn't think it was that bad. Now I have driven a PDK I realise it wasn't that great !
shit slow without the turbo
Luckily it had one then 😜
Titronic ... no thanks!
Very nice review. I've not driven a Porsche yet, tbh out of my price range. Here is a question, the 911 or for the same price the F-type you drove in a previous video?
Hi Rob. Great question ! For the same money (£55-58k) you could get a nice V8 F Type Convertible and that might just steal my heart !!
This car was amazing though. Very practical and SO fast !!!
911 value isn’t gonna go down then the F type but both amazing cars