I always thought how Titans Return Megatron would be the best template for the Skywarp-Megatron concept, just swap out the Titan-head-master and add Starscream-jet decals.
One concept I remember seeing was back when they were working on Power of the Primes. We were supposed to have gotten full figures of the 13 Primes that would have dismantled into armour for the 'normal' figures to wear. obviously different to what we ended up with. we only have sketches of Rodimus wearing some of the armour.
Yeah I realize that sounds awesome but it would also probably have been really impractical, so I can see why it went nowhere. I mean, look at the modulators from WFC. They don’t do the armor thing very convincingly and that’s _without_ having to represent thirteen of the most important figures in transformers lore in another mode.
A lot of American horror movie characters are extremely popular in Japan. Robert Englund himself appeared as Freddy Krueger in a Japanese sketch show, the anime SKET Dance had shot-for-shot recreations of moments from Texas Chainsaw Massacre (even though the character doing them was named "Jay-san"), and the creator of Berserk (RIP) was afraid he was gonna get sued because Guts seemed so similar to Ash Williams.
Versions of the classic movie monsters also show up in Japanese live-action kids shows like Super Sentai and Kamen Rider. Kamen Rider Kiva is a big stand-out there.
They were also popular in the Japanese wrestling scene as well, just can't remember the wrestlers' names but there was a Jason and other horror characters.
Don't forget Hellraiser, which was a big inspiration for both the God Hand in Berserk and a lot of cards in the later arcs of the original Yu-Gi-Oh. And Phantom of the Paradise is mostly forgotten over here, but it's inspired some pretty big-ticket items like Apocalymon and Femto.
Animated Hotshot looked great as a prototype, wish that had come out. There was also a concept for a monster truck version of Armada Optimus that I always liked the look of.
@@rayvenkman2087 it would have been cool to see in the cartoon though. Imagine Skywarp's teleportation powers combined with Megatron's fusion cannon. Optimus wouldn't have survived 10 seconds...
@@soundblaster1987reviews We saw that. There's an episode where Optimus and Megatron have a one on one where the loser left the planet, but Megatron cheated by installing all the Decepticon's unique ability chips. Very one sided match.
Pretenders are my favorite of the late G1 gimmicks, so knowing we could have not only gotten more of them, but had fantasy warrior shells, makes me both happy and sad.
@@CarlyCatharsis I believe OP is referring to the show Transformers Animated and not the Japanese continuation of the og G1 series Headmasters, because there are 5 figures (that I can remember off the top of my head) from Animated that we didn't get (Wasp, Hot Shot, Powermaster Optimus, Earth mode Ironhide and Marauder Megatron)
@@Lazulii33 Yeah, in the Allspark Allminac and on the TFWiki there's images of prototypes for Megs and Hot Shot, a slight mock-up (?) of Ironhide alongside some art in the animated style, some stock-photos of Wasp, and 3-D models of Powermaster Optimus.
Gigatron or RID Megatron was a successful multichanger beast wars figure. Even if you took out the really sketchy modes, his Robot, Dragon, Bat and Elephant modes were pretty good.
Griffon mode wasn't too bad either and the jet was fairly convincing, multi changer transformers should make a return and heck maybe even make a new one based on Brave of Legend Da Garn's Seven Changer since Takara likely still got his design lying around and I don't believe he is a straight up retool of Sixshot
Closest we have to Transtech Cheetor is Animated Blurr taking obvious design cues from it. And then Fun Pub took that ball and ran with it by remolding Blurr into an Animated incarnation of Cheetor.
A toy that can be both Megatron and Galvatron? That sounds a lot like what the Power of the Primes Leader class toys were doing. Honestly though I didn't even realize that was a Galvatron, it looked to me like Megatron and Shockwave as a combiner. There was also a concept for G1 Triple changer that would of had a vehicle and a beast mode. There were a couple of them and I think they were actually released as Diaclone toys but for some reason those molds never made it into Transformers. Speaking of Triple changers that were released in other toy lines... Animorphs actually had some Triple changing figures. That toy line really didn't do very well though and maybe that's why they never made it into Transformers... except that if they didn't do that in Transformers because the Animorphs toy line tanked then they COMPLETELY misunderstood why those toys weren't selling. The human kid modes on those figures were just terrible looking. The only Animorphs toys I ever got didn't have human forms at all. I loved the figures that DIDN'T transform into human children. The toys could never quite pull off a human form with all the beast mode kibble hanging off them and the sculpting on their faces you couldn't even tell who they were suppose to be. If they retooled those same molds into Transformers so that the human parts are now robot parts they would have actually sold. Especially the Triple Changers because that's a concept a lot of kids I knew were expecting to see at some point in Transformers but just hated the Animorphs toy line. And yes, I really wish we would have gotten Transtech... There's a couple interesting concepts with Transtech... the vehicle modes weren't just futuristic vehicles but actually still had a Technorganic element to their designs like Cheetor having visible Cheetah spots all over his car mode. There's also the fact that they were bringing back a lot of characters from both G1 and Beast Wars... for example Transtech Optimus and Megatron were the G1 characters in new bodies, they weren't bringing back the Beast Era versions who died at the end of Beast Machines they would have stayed dead but the original G1 name sakes would of come back to lead the Maximals and Predacons/Vehicons... whatever they were going to call them for that series. There was also a concept for Depth Charge who died in Beast Wars so they were going to have to explain how he came back to life. It would of been technically the first time we'd be seeing G1 and BW characters interacting with each other... and I mean with both being main characters interacting on a regular basis and not just a guest star so Starscream and Ravage don't really count. They're more like teasers for what we could of gotten in Transtech. And Transtech Starscream is G1 Starscream in a new body so he should also have memories of Possession. Starscream did mention he'd be back at the end of Possession but then we never saw him again. Maybe Transtech could of continued that story with Transtech Starscream being a main character rather than a one off guest star.
I've always lamented on how no 3rd party used the original concept for Armada Optimus Prime, which had him transform into a monster truck. It would've had been the THICCEST Optimus toy yet!
Not all of the concepts for Transtech were left on the floor, as I remember seeing concepts for tiny little robots that would have entered into the fray and caused quite a stirr with the Maximal/Autobots and Predacon/Decepticons. If that sounds familiar, it's because, as I remember the caption saying on the storyboard, it said "Coming of the Minicons." Yes, the Minicons were to have been introduced in Transtech, NOT Armada. How that would have worked, I have no idea, but it would have been fun and interesting... Speaking of the flop of Beast Machines... I believe that the reason the line flopped was not entirely due to the design of the toys. Though by this time fans were demanding show accuracy, especially shown with how the Transmetals, Fuzors and Transmetal 2s were some of the most show accurate designs, at least, of the characters who became those in the show. So, the fact that the toys lacked that crucial bit with some exceptions that did go show accurate being... well, you reviewed one of the ones you considered the top five worst TF toys for a reason... At any rate, I believe that the main fault was how the characters were characterized. Even the actors, Scott McNeil included as he's said in several panels, knew that such a radical change to most of the characters wasn't going to go over well. Scott even recounted that the directors said it wouldn't matter and didn't care, which for him, really hurt. Now, the show itself is actually really good, and if I take it as an alternative universe with a different version of the Beast Wars, then yes, I can see it as being top five quality Transformers shows. But given how the directors didn't care about continuing the characters as we knew them, and we could tell how little they cared. That, I believe, is why Beast Machines flopped with the backlash. At least, the main reason it flopped. Speaking of a flop... I remember there being additional Fuzor concepts, though I never actually saw them, I may have heard of them. That, and knowing the commercial tagline said that more would come, I know there were more, and I would have loved to see what these concepts were. It's a shame that we only got the eight that we have, nine if you count Tigerhawk, as the Fuzors were a cool idea. Shame that most 90s kids didn't seem to think so... Or... maybe the reason was oversaturation now that I think about it? At the time, I forget from who it was that had the Jurassic Park license at the time, but that toyline had something called Chaos Theory as a subline where the idea was chimera dinosaurs. It seemed to me, now that I think about it, Fuzors was Beast Wars attempting to capitalize on that, but I'm certain other toylines must have attempted mash-ups at the time and with so many... (The 90s were crazy, for those who didn't live through them or don't remember those years.)
I always lived the original concept design of Powermaster Optimus Prime where his head transformed into Roller. He'd have been a Headmaster/Powermaster all in one
I don't purchase many third party figures but I'd be all in on Transtech inspired figures. I'd also love a "velociraptor" that turns into a snake. As for any other unused concepts, I thought the unused Armada Megatron and Optimus concepts were amazing and need to be made into toys. Optimus more than Megatron.
Well in tranformers rid (2015) There were some decepticons whom had two modes: beast and vehicle modes. There was a frog Decepticon that turned into a car of sorts, a cat Decepticon that turned into a race car, A dog Decepticon that turned into a hybrid cybertrionain/earth military vehicle, There was also a buffalo Decepticon that turned into truck. And also a crab Decepticon that turned into a car etc. (Just to name or mention a few)
Wow, very impressive. I see lots of potential here. The Megatron/Galvatron is interesting, but can I see some story potential in the Megatron/Seeker figure. Imagine a Decepticon who not only acts as a mole in the Seekers to keep an eye on Starscream, but will occasionally take his master's place to keep his enemies confused. The universal monsters are unusual, but no more so than the Star Wars or Marvel crossovers. I've seen them or characters based off them in multiple shows (e.g. Kamen Rider Kiva). So much great stuff here. I wish we knew more of the Mythical Pretenders, Motor World, and of course Transtech.
There's one I can't seem to find anymore but it's supposedly a concept pitched to Hasbro of Transformers figures that would transform from their Generation 1 designs to the Bayverse designs and honestly I think that's a pretty gnarly idea, I like the idea of that.
there's that line art of Armada/Energon Optimus Prime who's robot mode has a "super mode" transformation similar to the Unicorn Gundam's transformation into Destroy Mode as in his armor opens up that reveal gaps with glowing lines all over his body.
Man, I was actually excited for Trans-tech when I saw the concepts, but this was long after Beast Machines was over and the Unicron Trilogy was in full swing.
oh yeah that would've been an amazing figure with impressive engineering, I hope a 3rd party could make it one day and have it be compatible with the old Cybertron toys, they did make an MP Victory Leo afterall
Ever since I first saw rid2015 Thunderhoof, Ive been toying with the idea of a triplechanger version of the character that would go between tracktor, moose and robot.
One concept sketch I found was for a series of symmetrical-style combiner, or rather _asymmetrical_ style combiners, because one component would be an animal and the other a vehicle, and both would turn into one half of a complete robot divided down the middle.
Something I'd love to see 3rd party look at is some of the concepts that were floated for Powermaster Optimus, which included a triple changing base Optimus who could turn into a jet, and a little triple changing Roller that turned into the head of the super mode.
I didn't know about Transtech. Dang, that's definitely a big loss. We could have gotten a Vic Viper Silverbolt or an R-Type Tigerhawk (the ship and the main pod unit could become Tigertron and Airazor).
Well third parties, here's some ideas for you. As for unused concepts, I'd have loved to have seen what the Anibots that combined into a dragon would have been like.
I agree, we have so many 3rd party companies doing all the same stuff, combiners, G1 Primes, it'd be so interesting to see them take a look at the old concept art and see what they might be able to pull off.
@@medafan53 Not to mention I feel like enough 3rd party companies do things, eventually Hasbro starts to realize they should too. Combiner Wars always made me wonder if the 3rd party combiners made them realize that yes, fans really would like some combiners.
Transtech would have caused the same headaches that some TM2 's and ROTF figures (looking at you Leader Class Prime and Mixmaster, and Skids and Mudflap).......however, the failure of Beast Machines and some other issues kept this from coming out
In the same vein of the Classic Monsters into Transformers I did draw Jason Voorhees and Freddy Krueger as Transformers. Still these concepts are very interesting to say the least.
Depending on when they designed the Megatron/ Galvatron concept they wouldn't be able to do it anyways due to the laws in place about "realistic" guns being sold to kids. I also don't know why you think people don't wear watches anymore.
Takara dosn´t care about american laws when they designe a figure that is going to be exclusive for the japanese market. Yes, we don´t know if that designe would have been solely for the japanese market, but one could asume it.
A lot of these while cool, in my opinion are only so because they were never made. Especially the ones form G1 and 2, for two reasons. A a lot of it just wasn't feasible with the technology available to them back them and B I find mysteries endlessly fascinating. Also I'm loving these videos of scrapped ideas and I'll keep watching them as long as TJ keeps making them. Hoping for a video on TF lost media soon. Of which there is some.
as to the Megatron/Seeker Fusion (whether it be Starscream/Skywarp/Whoever) From a Real World Perspective , Megatron 'always' needs a new alt mode and depending on where this design was created in relation to the Media I could see a setting where the Core Decepticons are a team of 5 Jets (Megatron and 4 Seekers) and like Beast Wars he's a distinct character who simply shared his name with the 'Legend' (and again like BW the limited characters and models simplifies animation) and to sell toys beyond the core Team have the rest Toys appear in spot light episodes and/or as background characters - alternatively thein-Universe Logic about why a Seeker has a "Megatron Mode"... perhaps Supreme Commander Megatron is doing an 'Undercover Boss' bit with one of his 'platoons' OR the Real Megatron is incapacitated, and Starscream (ever the usurper) Gives himself a Megatron Mode and Pretends to be 'The Bot behind the Curtain' issuing orders remotely and making token appearances to create the illusion the real Megatron still functions
Oh man I love that number 1 is Trans-Tech. I really want hasbro to do it. I'm really tired of them rehashing G1 designs again and again with more modern tech. It's time to get real unique with Transformers again.
The Skywarp/Megatron triple-changer would've been AWESOME, and could've fit into the G1 storyline with relative ease. Fanfic writers have written stories in which Decepticons dissatisfied with Galvatron's rule, clone Megatron to overthrow Galvatron and lead them in the failure's place. Hasbro could've made Skywarp one such Decepticon, harboring Megatron's spark within his body, the way Quirrell harbored a portion of Voldemort's soul in 'Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone' (retitled 'Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone' in the US, for some Godforsaken reason).
I will say that watches are definitely still around as I have been wearing one since my teenage years or at least attempting to keep one on for as long as I could before a section of each watch broke off.
Motor World sounds like Beastwars Transmetals. Perhaps more vehicle than an animal, but the blending of animal and mechanical parts was the Transmetal gimmick.
They legally couldn't use the name "omegatron" for that megatron /Galvatron concept because back in the 80s there was another robot toy line that had a black and red repaint of the omega supreme toy which was the leader of that lines bad guys and it was called "omegatron".
I knew about block town but never saw that massive aircraft carrier trailer thing before. That makes me really upset that the line never happened. Transtech on the other hand remains a concept that still dream will be revived one day. If only.
#10. Megatron/Galvatron. Sell the body armor as a an upgrade kit separately? #10 part 2. Same as above with one of them or both getting the other as an upgrade kit. #9. The same outcome to trying to bring back the movies for them and the first movie is Tom Cruise's The Mummy. #8. This is self explanatory. #7. Reverse pretenders. Have Transformers that become armor for humans and/or animals. This with either clones of the original people or further generations of them. (Clones from C.O.B.R.A.) #6. There was a toy line and cartoon for a group of transformers but of dinosaur skeletons only. I don't remember any info. #5. Like #10. as an upgrade kit. #4. I like the idea. Buffalo dump truck. #3. Block based armor or other accessories? #2. Beast wars triple changers. Have one as the base and then have the other as being separate armor. That is the best I can come up with. #1. Maybe as its own series in the future and with humans and/or animals in high tech armor?
We got a sort of triple changer in Beast Wars with two import figures, Ba-boom and Trans-skito both from Beast wars 2 in Japan. They were as TJ said ”iffy” third modes(I have Ba-Boom(a baboon) and he can shoot missiles out of his beast mouth in beast mode turn into a sort of "battle mount\station(?)" which was really his robot chest split front to back. It was a little more involved than the Transmetal "vehicle" modes. But, that was about it. A lot of Beast Wars 2 figures had "battle modes" which were silly and pointless.
If there’s in toy that almost happened that I would do anything to see in full form, it’s the Animated Megatron from season 4. A triple-changing Megatron with cues from G1 and Beast Machines in my favorite style? It was too pure for this world.
Seriously tho, that one Transtech Megatron design with the big bulky armor on it and what looked to be a massive ATV alt mode looked so much like a Gundam and I just love it. I totally don't see it as a Megatron, definitely more suited as another character, but still. Looks friggin metal
I think the most interesting thing that you didn’t talk about was how ROTF devastator was going to have a vehicle mode, as in the whole combiner transforming
I think Animated Blurr could have been a bit of a reference to the TransTech line. And well, although it doesn't say it anywhere... doesn't Prime Soundwave look like he took some design cues from TransTech Depthcharge, especially the Beast Hunters figure?
Draculus is out in Canada but they demand 75 CAD for it! That's RIDICULOUS!I'm not paying more than 50 for a remold of Titans Return's greatest peg warmer... shesh. I thought 45 for Gigawatt was pushing it...
Now that I think about it, it's fuckin weird that they never made duocon, punch/counterpunch, or two robots that formed one animal (at least not that i can recall)
I always thought how Titans Return Megatron would be the best template for the Skywarp-Megatron concept, just swap out the Titan-head-master and add Starscream-jet decals.
I always though if you just had the right Titan Master and decals, it'd make a decent Leader-1 Proxy.
One concept I remember seeing was back when they were working on Power of the Primes. We were supposed to have gotten full figures of the 13 Primes that would have dismantled into armour for the 'normal' figures to wear. obviously different to what we ended up with. we only have sketches of Rodimus wearing some of the armour.
I so would've preferred that to what we eventually got.
Yeah I realize that sounds awesome but it would also probably have been really impractical, so I can see why it went nowhere. I mean, look at the modulators from WFC. They don’t do the armor thing very convincingly and that’s _without_ having to represent thirteen of the most important figures in transformers lore in another mode.
How would that work with Nexus? He'd need to be a full on combiner.
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A lot of American horror movie characters are extremely popular in Japan. Robert Englund himself appeared as Freddy Krueger in a Japanese sketch show, the anime SKET Dance had shot-for-shot recreations of moments from Texas Chainsaw Massacre (even though the character doing them was named "Jay-san"), and the creator of Berserk (RIP) was afraid he was gonna get sued because Guts seemed so similar to Ash Williams.
Versions of the classic movie monsters also show up in Japanese live-action kids shows like Super Sentai and Kamen Rider. Kamen Rider Kiva is a big stand-out there.
They were also popular in the Japanese wrestling scene as well, just can't remember the wrestlers' names but there was a Jason and other horror characters.
@@StrewthStoatPirate And stuff for older audiences, such as Darkstalkers and Rosario+Vampire.
Don't forget Hellraiser, which was a big inspiration for both the God Hand in Berserk and a lot of cards in the later arcs of the original Yu-Gi-Oh. And Phantom of the Paradise is mostly forgotten over here, but it's inspired some pretty big-ticket items like Apocalymon and Femto.
Animated Hotshot looked great as a prototype, wish that had come out. There was also a concept for a monster truck version of Armada Optimus that I always liked the look of.
To be fair, Skywarp was the one who reawakened Megatron in the G1 cartoon, and was also the first to use Megatron's gun mode as a weapon.
Still, who would even want Megatron to be apart of them or be apart of Skywarp?
@@rayvenkman2087 it would have been cool to see in the cartoon though. Imagine Skywarp's teleportation powers combined with Megatron's fusion cannon. Optimus wouldn't have survived 10 seconds...
@@soundblaster1987reviews We saw that. There's an episode where Optimus and Megatron have a one on one where the loser left the planet, but Megatron cheated by installing all the Decepticon's unique ability chips. Very one sided match.
@@soundblaster1987reviews I imagine they would set a caveat for this fusion to keep him from being overpowered.
. . . and they're also both voiced by Frank Welker.
Pretenders are my favorite of the late G1 gimmicks, so knowing we could have not only gotten more of them, but had fantasy warrior shells, makes me both happy and sad.
I will forever be upset that Animated’s fourth season and all associated toys have been forever robbed from us.
@@CarlyCatharsis what does the have to do with animated
@@CarlyCatharsis I believe OP is referring to the show Transformers Animated and not the Japanese continuation of the og G1 series Headmasters, because there are 5 figures (that I can remember off the top of my head) from Animated that we didn't get (Wasp, Hot Shot, Powermaster Optimus, Earth mode Ironhide and Marauder Megatron)
@@CarlyCatharsis he's not talking about G1 season 4, he's talking about TFA's season 4
@@sixsaber0039 do you know if we got concept art for all those figures? Ive only seen the megatron
@@Lazulii33 Yeah, in the Allspark Allminac and on the TFWiki there's images of prototypes for Megs and Hot Shot, a slight mock-up (?) of Ironhide alongside some art in the animated style, some stock-photos of Wasp, and 3-D models of Powermaster Optimus.
Funnily enough, I thought of my own triple changer for Beast Wars. It's a character that turns into a wasp and a scorpion. I called him Wingsting.
I really hope "Buffalo Dump" was part of a team that combined into Predastator.
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Gigatron or RID Megatron was a successful multichanger beast wars figure. Even if you took out the really sketchy modes, his Robot, Dragon, Bat and Elephant modes were pretty good.
Griffon mode wasn't too bad either and the jet was fairly convincing, multi changer transformers should make a return and heck maybe even make a new one based on Brave of Legend Da Garn's Seven Changer since Takara likely still got his design lying around and I don't believe he is a straight up retool of Sixshot
Transtech still has a fiction even tho we never saw a line which I think is cool. It's basically multiversal asgard for transformers
Closest we have to Transtech Cheetor is Animated Blurr taking obvious design cues from it. And then Fun Pub took that ball and ran with it by remolding Blurr into an Animated incarnation of Cheetor.
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Beast Wars Megatron as a turtle, now that gives some food for thought.
The Pretender designs have a very Saint Seiya kind of feel to them and I really like that.
A toy that can be both Megatron and Galvatron? That sounds a lot like what the Power of the Primes Leader class toys were doing. Honestly though I didn't even realize that was a Galvatron, it looked to me like Megatron and Shockwave as a combiner.
There was also a concept for G1 Triple changer that would of had a vehicle and a beast mode. There were a couple of them and I think they were actually released as Diaclone toys but for some reason those molds never made it into Transformers. Speaking of Triple changers that were released in other toy lines... Animorphs actually had some Triple changing figures. That toy line really didn't do very well though and maybe that's why they never made it into Transformers... except that if they didn't do that in Transformers because the Animorphs toy line tanked then they COMPLETELY misunderstood why those toys weren't selling. The human kid modes on those figures were just terrible looking. The only Animorphs toys I ever got didn't have human forms at all. I loved the figures that DIDN'T transform into human children. The toys could never quite pull off a human form with all the beast mode kibble hanging off them and the sculpting on their faces you couldn't even tell who they were suppose to be. If they retooled those same molds into Transformers so that the human parts are now robot parts they would have actually sold. Especially the Triple Changers because that's a concept a lot of kids I knew were expecting to see at some point in Transformers but just hated the Animorphs toy line.
And yes, I really wish we would have gotten Transtech... There's a couple interesting concepts with Transtech... the vehicle modes weren't just futuristic vehicles but actually still had a Technorganic element to their designs like Cheetor having visible Cheetah spots all over his car mode. There's also the fact that they were bringing back a lot of characters from both G1 and Beast Wars... for example Transtech Optimus and Megatron were the G1 characters in new bodies, they weren't bringing back the Beast Era versions who died at the end of Beast Machines they would have stayed dead but the original G1 name sakes would of come back to lead the Maximals and Predacons/Vehicons... whatever they were going to call them for that series. There was also a concept for Depth Charge who died in Beast Wars so they were going to have to explain how he came back to life. It would of been technically the first time we'd be seeing G1 and BW characters interacting with each other... and I mean with both being main characters interacting on a regular basis and not just a guest star so Starscream and Ravage don't really count. They're more like teasers for what we could of gotten in Transtech. And Transtech Starscream is G1 Starscream in a new body so he should also have memories of Possession. Starscream did mention he'd be back at the end of Possession but then we never saw him again. Maybe Transtech could of continued that story with Transtech Starscream being a main character rather than a one off guest star.
About the triple changer, have you looked up the horrorcons? It sounds like what you're talking about, plus headmasters.
I've always lamented on how no 3rd party used the original concept for Armada Optimus Prime, which had him transform into a monster truck. It would've had been the THICCEST Optimus toy yet!
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Not all of the concepts for Transtech were left on the floor, as I remember seeing concepts for tiny little robots that would have entered into the fray and caused quite a stirr with the Maximal/Autobots and Predacon/Decepticons. If that sounds familiar, it's because, as I remember the caption saying on the storyboard, it said "Coming of the Minicons." Yes, the Minicons were to have been introduced in Transtech, NOT Armada. How that would have worked, I have no idea, but it would have been fun and interesting... Speaking of the flop of Beast Machines...
I believe that the reason the line flopped was not entirely due to the design of the toys. Though by this time fans were demanding show accuracy, especially shown with how the Transmetals, Fuzors and Transmetal 2s were some of the most show accurate designs, at least, of the characters who became those in the show. So, the fact that the toys lacked that crucial bit with some exceptions that did go show accurate being... well, you reviewed one of the ones you considered the top five worst TF toys for a reason... At any rate, I believe that the main fault was how the characters were characterized. Even the actors, Scott McNeil included as he's said in several panels, knew that such a radical change to most of the characters wasn't going to go over well. Scott even recounted that the directors said it wouldn't matter and didn't care, which for him, really hurt. Now, the show itself is actually really good, and if I take it as an alternative universe with a different version of the Beast Wars, then yes, I can see it as being top five quality Transformers shows. But given how the directors didn't care about continuing the characters as we knew them, and we could tell how little they cared. That, I believe, is why Beast Machines flopped with the backlash. At least, the main reason it flopped. Speaking of a flop...
I remember there being additional Fuzor concepts, though I never actually saw them, I may have heard of them. That, and knowing the commercial tagline said that more would come, I know there were more, and I would have loved to see what these concepts were. It's a shame that we only got the eight that we have, nine if you count Tigerhawk, as the Fuzors were a cool idea. Shame that most 90s kids didn't seem to think so... Or... maybe the reason was oversaturation now that I think about it? At the time, I forget from who it was that had the Jurassic Park license at the time, but that toyline had something called Chaos Theory as a subline where the idea was chimera dinosaurs. It seemed to me, now that I think about it, Fuzors was Beast Wars attempting to capitalize on that, but I'm certain other toylines must have attempted mash-ups at the time and with so many... (The 90s were crazy, for those who didn't live through them or don't remember those years.)
I always lived the original concept design of Powermaster Optimus Prime where his head transformed into Roller. He'd have been a Headmaster/Powermaster all in one
And his head would actually have a purpose as opposed to just being a lose head part
I don't purchase many third party figures but I'd be all in on Transtech inspired figures. I'd also love a "velociraptor" that turns into a snake.
As for any other unused concepts, I thought the unused Armada Megatron and Optimus concepts were amazing and need to be made into toys. Optimus more than Megatron.
Well in tranformers rid (2015)
There were some decepticons whom had two modes: beast and vehicle modes.
There was a frog Decepticon that turned into a car of sorts, a cat Decepticon that turned into a race car, A dog Decepticon that turned into a hybrid cybertrionain/earth military vehicle,
There was also a buffalo Decepticon that turned into truck.
And also a crab Decepticon that turned into a car etc. (Just to name or mention a few)
Yeah, they really were trying to do something different there, and we got some interesting desings.
those were just beast like robot modes with vehicle modes, kept things interesting at least
Wow, very impressive. I see lots of potential here. The Megatron/Galvatron is interesting, but can I see some story potential in the Megatron/Seeker figure. Imagine a Decepticon who not only acts as a mole in the Seekers to keep an eye on Starscream, but will occasionally take his master's place to keep his enemies confused. The universal monsters are unusual, but no more so than the Star Wars or Marvel crossovers. I've seen them or characters based off them in multiple shows (e.g. Kamen Rider Kiva). So much great stuff here. I wish we knew more of the Mythical Pretenders, Motor World, and of course Transtech.
There's one I can't seem to find anymore but it's supposedly a concept pitched to Hasbro of Transformers figures that would transform from their Generation 1 designs to the Bayverse designs and honestly I think that's a pretty gnarly idea, I like the idea of that.
there's that line art of Armada/Energon Optimus Prime who's robot mode has a "super mode" transformation similar to the Unicorn Gundam's transformation into Destroy Mode as in his armor opens up that reveal gaps with glowing lines all over his body.
I have never seen that before, sounds awesome, I imagine he could've glowed Golden like the Brave robo's before him
Man, I was actually excited for Trans-tech when I saw the concepts, but this was long after Beast Machines was over and the Unicron Trilogy was in full swing.
I really loved the Initial Leobreaker design that had to be scrapped. It was so disappointing they had to abandon it.
oh yeah that would've been an amazing figure with impressive engineering, I hope a 3rd party could make it one day and have it be compatible with the old Cybertron toys, they did make an MP Victory Leo afterall
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer So much same
My headcanon is that if Buffalo Dump ever gets rescued from the pits of obscurity in a future comic or animated series, he'd sound like James Rolfe.
I wish they used more outlandish concepts
That’s not a “fossil transformer” that’s a rock lord in cosplay.
Ever since I first saw rid2015 Thunderhoof, Ive been toying with the idea of a triplechanger version of the character that would go between tracktor, moose and robot.
In theory we had a megatron that turned into a galvatron in titans return, the head of galvatron is obviusly megatron.
One concept sketch I found was for a series of symmetrical-style combiner, or rather _asymmetrical_ style combiners, because one component would be an animal and the other a vehicle, and both would turn into one half of a complete robot divided down the middle.
Something I'd love to see 3rd party look at is some of the concepts that were floated for Powermaster Optimus, which included a triple changing base Optimus who could turn into a jet, and a little triple changing Roller that turned into the head of the super mode.
I didn't know about Transtech. Dang, that's definitely a big loss. We could have gotten a Vic Viper Silverbolt or an R-Type Tigerhawk (the ship and the main pod unit could become Tigertron and Airazor).
Now I didn't know about half of these so if I take anything from today it's that I learned something new. Always love these top 10s.
Well third parties, here's some ideas for you.
As for unused concepts, I'd have loved to have seen what the Anibots that combined into a dragon would have been like.
I agree, we have so many 3rd party companies doing all the same stuff, combiners, G1 Primes, it'd be so interesting to see them take a look at the old concept art and see what they might be able to pull off.
@@medafan53 Not to mention I feel like enough 3rd party companies do things, eventually Hasbro starts to realize they should too. Combiner Wars always made me wonder if the 3rd party combiners made them realize that yes, fans really would like some combiners.
Transformers Prime Season 3 was originally going to be Pirates with Thundertron. How awesome that would’ve been.
Transtech would have caused the same headaches that some TM2 's and ROTF figures (looking at you Leader Class Prime and Mixmaster, and Skids and Mudflap).......however, the failure of Beast Machines and some other issues kept this from coming out
I'd say part of the Motor World idea was revisited in RID 2015 Decepticons (with a side of some of Mega Man's Mavericks).
if transtech was released now i’d start buying transformers again.
In the same vein of the Classic Monsters into Transformers I did draw Jason Voorhees and Freddy Krueger as Transformers. Still these concepts are very interesting to say the least.
Megatron, ruthless evil leader of the Predacons: “I’m a female Indonesian red-back sea turtle, and these are my eggs, pretty scary, eh?”
Depending on when they designed the Megatron/ Galvatron concept they wouldn't be able to do it anyways due to the laws in place about "realistic" guns being sold to kids.
I also don't know why you think people don't wear watches anymore.
Takara dosn´t care about american laws when they designe a figure that is going to be exclusive for the japanese market. Yes, we don´t know if that designe would have been solely for the japanese market, but one could asume it.
A lot of these while cool, in my opinion are only so because they were never made. Especially the ones form G1 and 2, for two reasons. A a lot of it just wasn't feasible with the technology available to them back them and B I find mysteries endlessly fascinating.
Also I'm loving these videos of scrapped ideas and I'll keep watching them as long as TJ keeps making them. Hoping for a video on TF lost media soon. Of which there is some.
Interesting stuff! Cool video. I just got Draculus yesterday and he's cooler than I expected. "Buffalo Dump" should have been, "Number Two.."
Transtech and the Motorworld bots should really be made into production one day. Thanks for this insight TJ!
as to the Megatron/Seeker Fusion (whether it be Starscream/Skywarp/Whoever)
From a Real World Perspective , Megatron 'always' needs a new alt mode and depending on where this design was created in relation to the Media I could see a setting where the Core Decepticons are a team of 5 Jets (Megatron and 4 Seekers) and like Beast Wars he's a distinct character who simply shared his name with the 'Legend' (and again like BW the limited characters and models simplifies animation) and to sell toys beyond the core Team have the rest Toys appear in spot light episodes and/or as background characters
- alternatively thein-Universe Logic about why a Seeker has a "Megatron Mode"... perhaps Supreme Commander Megatron is doing an 'Undercover Boss' bit with one of his 'platoons' OR the Real Megatron is incapacitated, and Starscream (ever the usurper) Gives himself a Megatron Mode and Pretends to be 'The Bot behind the Curtain' issuing orders remotely and making token appearances to create the illusion the real Megatron still functions
I haven't watched TJ in years, and one of this video made its way into my suggestions.
Forgot what year but it was at a Botscon. Fanart on Pretenders Female Autobots and Female Decepticons.
This is the first time I've heard of Transtech. I agree that it sounds like a great idea.
Oh man I love that number 1 is Trans-Tech. I really want hasbro to do it. I'm really tired of them rehashing G1 designs again and again with more modern tech. It's time to get real unique with Transformers again.
Oh, Trans Tech? I’ve been wondering what this was all about.
Your content is getting better and better!
Beast Wars Mutants are probably the closest thing we’ll get to Animal Triple Changers.
The Skywarp/Megatron triple-changer would've been AWESOME, and could've fit into the G1 storyline with relative ease. Fanfic writers have written stories in which Decepticons dissatisfied with Galvatron's rule, clone Megatron to overthrow Galvatron and lead them in the failure's place. Hasbro could've made Skywarp one such Decepticon, harboring Megatron's spark within his body, the way Quirrell harbored a portion of Voldemort's soul in 'Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone' (retitled 'Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone' in the US, for some Godforsaken reason).
10:57 Buffalo Dump sounds like the Angry Video Game Nerd as a Transformer… if they ever revisit this concept they should get James Rolf to voice him
I will say that watches are definitely still around as I have been wearing one since my teenage years or at least attempting to keep one on for as long as I could before a section of each watch broke off.
Motor World sounds like Beastwars Transmetals. Perhaps more vehicle than an animal, but the blending of animal and mechanical parts was the Transmetal gimmick.
I always wanted more eventual TF x Universal Monsters toys to happen!!!
Great video! Wish you had shown more of the concept art you talk about tho xD
They legally couldn't use the name "omegatron" for that megatron /Galvatron concept because back in the 80s there was another robot toy line that had a black and red repaint of the omega supreme toy which was the leader of that lines bad guys and it was called "omegatron".
Beast Wars Optimus versus Beast Wars Megatron was like King Kong versus Godzilla in a side way. I think that's the reason of their animal forms.
I saw a cool concept for a tank mega for power of the primes.
Mega turned into his gun mode but turned into the g2 style green tank cannon
The Buffalo Dump reminds me of the art I saw awhile back associated with Transtech.
I knew about block town but never saw that massive aircraft carrier trailer thing before. That makes me really upset that the line never happened. Transtech on the other hand remains a concept that still dream will be revived one day. If only.
I really hope Hasbro decides to return to the Transtech ideas eventually.
I just need to see lego transformers creators (not official, fans who build them) react to brick transformers
Well now I want a Buffalo-Dump with an Angry Video Game Nerd Powermaster
6:00 This reminds me of "Saint Seiya".
There are some really good concepts !
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any transformer that switched to another transformer and still transform into their alternate form is wicked cool! would have been a cool sub-line
#10. Megatron/Galvatron. Sell the body armor as a an upgrade kit separately?
#10 part 2. Same as above with one of them or both getting the other as an upgrade kit.
#9. The same outcome to trying to bring back the movies for them and the first movie is Tom Cruise's The Mummy.
#8. This is self explanatory.
#7. Reverse pretenders. Have Transformers that become armor for humans and/or animals. This with either clones of the original people or further generations of them. (Clones from C.O.B.R.A.)
#6. There was a toy line and cartoon for a group of transformers but of dinosaur skeletons only. I don't remember any info.
#5. Like #10. as an upgrade kit.
#4. I like the idea. Buffalo dump truck.
#3. Block based armor or other accessories?
#2. Beast wars triple changers. Have one as the base and then have the other as being separate armor. That is the best I can come up with.
#1. Maybe as its own series in the future and with humans and/or animals in high tech armor?
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Man triple changers in Beast Wars would have been awesome :)
Oh jeebus I’ve never been this early on a video😅 two views, let’s hope it doesn’t stay that way! You deserve the attention!!
I actually designed once a Cheetor that transforms into a racing car and a cheetah as well... the concepts must still be around somewhere....
The Tanstech designs are awesome.
Fascinating stuff! Thank you!
We got a sort of triple changer in Beast Wars with two import figures, Ba-boom and Trans-skito both from Beast wars 2 in Japan. They were as TJ said ”iffy” third modes(I have Ba-Boom(a baboon) and he can shoot missiles out of his beast mouth in beast mode turn into a sort of "battle mount\station(?)" which was really his robot chest split front to back. It was a little more involved than the Transmetal "vehicle" modes. But, that was about it. A lot of Beast Wars 2 figures had "battle modes" which were silly and pointless.
Transquito was trying for a Antlion from the looks of things, but it's really hard to do triple changers with two organic modes.
With studio series doing concept transformers as toys now, let's hope any of these toys get made for that line.
I tottally DIG (pun intended) the Fossil Transformers!
As always extremely enjoyable. Can't wait for more
If there’s in toy that almost happened that I would do anything to see in full form, it’s the Animated Megatron from season 4. A triple-changing Megatron with cues from G1 and Beast Machines in my favorite style? It was too pure for this world.
megatron is so powerful I think having more than 2 modes should be standard like RID 2001 or Cybertron
Seriously tho, that one Transtech Megatron design with the big bulky armor on it and what looked to be a massive ATV alt mode looked so much like a Gundam and I just love it. I totally don't see it as a Megatron, definitely more suited as another character, but still. Looks friggin metal
@@ArcheTelos I mean, pretty much lol
Transtech Optimus Prime and Soundwave. Concept artwork is awesome.
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First Lego Optimus happens then block town..... May the brick reign
that buffalo/dump truck vehicle would have been a perfect form for ironhide or even hound
I think the most interesting thing that you didn’t talk about was how ROTF devastator was going to have a vehicle mode, as in the whole combiner transforming
Oh my god.
it should've happened, if the Brave Series can have vehicle combiners so can transformers beyond maybe that one G2 toy
Eat all that cheese you gonna have a case of the buffalo dump.
7:42 I hereby dub the Proteus Palotrexus
The transtech one really looks like what we seen in transformers cybertron with the speed planet
3:48 the face/head of this Dracula Transformers look (exactly) like (the face/head of) a Dracula Robot that appeares in Doraemon
I remember in the decepticon tomb there’s a statue that looked like Dracula
I think Animated Blurr could have been a bit of a reference to the TransTech line. And well, although it doesn't say it anywhere... doesn't Prime Soundwave look like he took some design cues from TransTech Depthcharge, especially the Beast Hunters figure?
honestly, they should revisit the Beast Wars concept and see if Transtech would sell.
I mean, for Transtech Cheetor, at least the design DNA was inherited by Animated Blurr
Draculus is out in Canada but they demand 75 CAD for it! That's RIDICULOUS!I'm not paying more than 50 for a remold of Titans Return's greatest peg warmer... shesh. I thought 45 for Gigawatt was pushing it...
For your next subject will you talk about the inconsistencies of the Transformers Aligned Continuity.
Now that I think about it, it's fuckin weird that they never made duocon, punch/counterpunch, or two robots that formed one animal (at least not that i can recall)
I realize this might be obvious coming from me, but I hope the upcoming ttRPG gives an avenue for some of these ideas.