Difference between Project SEKAI's and Project DIVA's 3DMV [Part 2]
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage!, known in Asia as Project Sekai: Colorful Stage! feat. Hatsune Miku, is a Japanese mobile rhythm game developed by Colorful Palette, a studio of CyberAgent's Craft Egg, and published by Sega Corporation. The game is a spin-off from Sega's Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA series, and features the Crypton Future Media's virtual singers Hatsune Miku, Megurine Luka, Kagamine Rin and Len, Meiko, and Kaito, alongside the cast of 20 original human characters that are split into five units, each with a unique theme.
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA is a series of rhythm games created by Sega and Crypton Future Media. The series currently consists of 6 main titles, released on various PlayStation consoles, the Nintendo Switch, Microsoft Windows, and in arcades, the 2 Project Mirai games for the Nintendo 3DS, and 4 spin-offs for mobile and VR platforms. The series primarily makes use of Vocaloids, a series of singing synthesizer software developed by the Yamaha Corporation, and the songs created using these Vocaloids, most notably the virtual-diva Vocaloid Hatsune Miku
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Project Diva follows the formula of "telling a story." Project Sekai on the other hand follows the "live concert" mode for its 3dmv, which works well.
I like them both equally!
not necessarily true for project diva x mvs tho, we were robbed of story type mvs in that game and most (if not all) of them are live concert mvs like in prsk 😔😔
(examples are brain revolution girl and the giga medley in the video)
As someone who started with Project Diva, Project Sekai's 3DMVs have grown so much since the game released, most now actually being on par with Project diva's MVs. The lighting in some of the newer ones is outstanding and is far better than the lighting used in Project Diva future tone (F and F2nd are still better tho), not to mention the effects are amazing aswell.
I hope once the Project Miku series finally goes back to consoles, the team use their grown skills to make MVs that can surpass Project Diva, even if the OCs are still around.
Im in love with u
Thank you @@ikerquinteroaviles2294
@@ikerquinteroaviles2294 agree with U, is noticeable how @CrispChip really get us hahah, is kinda disappointing how a lot of people have ditched project diva series and does appreciate that Fseries are way better just because of it lower resolution.
I really hope for a port of Project Sekai to consoles for the 15th anniversary of the Diva series this year, just the same game with same server but with project diva style gameplay and some new MVs for vocaloid solo songs, I know to dream is free :(
@@Gabrielle-kw7xi If im correct, there have been rumors of Project Sekai getting a PC port, I doubt something like that will release on Project Diva's 15th anniversary (considering its in 5 days). Hell i really doubt anything will happen on Project Diva's 15th anniversary considering how the last game in the Diva series got its last update in May 12th 2023 and we've had no info on a new game ever since Mega mix+ was released...
Tokyo teddy bear - Project Diva
The snow white princess is - Project Sekai
Brain Revolution girl - Project diva
Childish war - Project seKai
Hello, Worker - Project diva
1,2 fanclub - Project Sekai
Honestly both are good and i like them both so i cant rlly pick
so real
this needs a pin tbh
Literally the ones I also prefer.
@@yippie_ily sorry cant, I already got a pin in my comment lol😂 but keep liking their comment tho so they can be in the top comment, it can help them
PJDV automatically wins for brain rev girl
im sorry to start war with the pj sekai fans but i prefer the diva mvs- they have more feel lol-
Yeaa
And divas og too
It's okay
@@-touhoufan true
The only diva mv i saw was for Teo and i love it so much more than the project sekai one if im being fr
I feel like the pjsk MVs have a lot of potential, their biggest weakness being 5 people on stage is WAY TOO MANY imo. 4 can work and 3 is great but 5 is really hard to make look good and this feels like a huge issue in most of the mvs shown. It’s been a huge gripe of mine with pjsk and I doubt they’ll ever start making less full unit covers but they look so dinky imo
Yeah, somehow I agree with you that 5 people are quite hard to arrange. Especially, screentime to focus is crucial in this situation.
IMO some of their MV are looking good even with 5 people. The latest MV for group called More More Jump, "Supernova", is example how good they manage with 5 people on it.
I think it's not an actual issue if they put more effort to deepen some aspect in a video. it's playing a big part to compensate lacking of platform accesibility to banter with Project Diva's quality, just like how Project Sekai lighting color and camerawork improving lately.
Theres a reason i always prefer solos or duets. But unfortunately, proper duet 3dmvs in sekai are extremely rare
I honestly prefer the Pjsk mvs as a diva player - it’s not that they’re visually superior than the diva mvs (that objectively just look better), but it’s the fact that the mv’s were made with mobile in mind and the improvement I can see from the old to new mvs is really good, and the replication of the original mv’s for the songs that is seen a lot more in sekai. Respect any opinions you guys have tho
Thats exactly what I think it's stupid to compare a console game with a mobile game it's obvious which one looks better prsk looks extremely well for mobile game standards as both a diva and prsk fan I think both look extremely well for their own places
The main constraint for prsk mvs are that... All of them most strictly adhered to the fact that they're gonna be perform in the game's post event virtual live concert thus tying them to one stage. They can't do a lot of transition/story telling because their MVs WILL be used in the virtual live sometime in the future
Plus exclusively for leo/need, they're kinda chained to their instruments... Never to be free, never to roam the stage much. You can only do so much w recycled instruments playing animations lol
@@kostan9844 all they really have is helli worker woth ichika walking around but thats the only time I think
@@kostan9844 Why not give Saki a keytar so she isnt forever stuck standing at her keyboard?
@@Buttercupcharadreamy idk about any other song, but she does have a keytar in Regulus which let her switch places with shiho in the middle of the song since everyone except honami was in a line. they have the freedom to give her one but they just dont💀
Honestly i wish prsk did more cinematic mvs, i like the way project Diva can tell stories in such different ways and not only by dancing. I have to admit that 3dmvs have gotten better in prsk but they could risk more and do more complex mvs
I suppose the world link cards work like the cinematic mv... but that would mean actually owning said cards...
The main hindrance Sekai has is being a mobile game, but they're clearly moving forward
reminder for all of you: pjsk mvs are PERFORMANCES. pjdv pvs are music videos.
Ngl im kinda glad pjsekai didn't go with the project divas way, not because they look bad, but because my phone already lag a bit with the one we got, so imagine with the diva one with all those transition 💀😭
Trueee, im already risking my 32gb phone here😂
Diva was actually quite optimized tho. Since most of its MVs are designed to work in handheld consoles (PSP&PSVita) which were weaker compared to most mid-end smartphones nowadays
I already sometimes get lag spikes in pjsk when the mv switches, cant imagine if it was pjdv
@@FLXEPfinally someone understands, pjdv mvs can run perfectly on mobile phones, its just different games, different mv styles.
also most of the pjsk mvs will be used later in virtual shows meaning they can’t do too many transitions which would just look weird on stage
I think Project Diva F/F2nd is the peak of the MVs. I really love the cuts whenever you success the chance time. Also the MV styles are more diverse. It can be dancing on the stage, telling a narative, using a comic style (like they did with Suki Kirai ), or cartoony style with unique editing (like two faced lovers/negaposi). I'd love to Proseka with narative style 3DMV though.
As a player who grew up with pjdiva, i more so prefer diva because songs like TTB, Hello worker, teo, time machine and more just has more of a feel than the pjsk mvs. it feels like pjsk always takes a safe direction for mvs and some covers but they're still good in their own accord, its just that the original versions are way more better, be it nostalgia or not.
anyone watching who's commented "pjsk mvs don't tell stories" PLEASE watch the mvs for commissioned songs. those are the songs made for a specific character and will tell their story for either that event or as a whole. i'd suggest honestly all of Nightcord's commissioned 3dmvs, but I think Engeki is the best. for the other groups, Showtime Ruler, Momoiro Key, the WALL, and Machi.
Imo, both are good but both have different contexts
The ones in PJSK represent their specific groups and a bit of the song's story, meanwhile the ones in Diva get complete freedom to match the song's story and theme as much as they can/want to (which is what usually makes them win over the PJSK MVs)
Also not to mention that PJSK had to use more optimisations because it is a game developed for mobile devices meanwhile Project Diva isn't
I like how the Project Sekai models (is that that they’re called?) More than the Project Diva ones, but I like the videos themselves more in Project Diva (I play both but I'm terrible at Project Diva)
ratings as a pjdiva and pjsk fan
ttb : pjdiva. although pjsekai shows more emotion pjdiva is more compelling and sorta has a story
tswpi...: both?? they all have their strengths. pjdiva's creativty and pjsekai's idol feel both boosts their rating but overall i prefer either one.
brg: pjsekai. i like the references to the original mv and although the dynamic camera work and stage effects in the pjdiva mv are absolutely flawless i like the more rough and edgy feel that pjsekai has
childish war: pjdiva. although its apart of a medley i love the choreography and how chaotic rhe camerawork is. meanwhile witht he pjsekai mv i feel as if they're.. sorta cramped?
hello, worker.: pjdiva by a LANDSLIDE. i know l/n and their mvs are limited due to the band being needed but i love how immersive the pjdiva mv is
1, 2 fanclub: pjsekai. while i do love the arrangement and remix of the original song in pjdiva x, i love the stage effects in pjsekai more
1,2 Fanclub also had a mv in Project Mirai so you could also compare that too
@@Lunimoose I'll compare the concerts in the next few videos, so dw!!!^^
@@DFA32_Harukaproject mirai is not a concert but a 3DS video game series
@@DFA32_Haruka exactly, do not confuse with magical Mirai concerts, project Mirai is videogame for the 3ds
Here are my thinkings!
Ttb: PjDiva. I love how it tells a story in a cool and awesome way while pjseka has the power, but pjseka is so basic..
Snow White Princess: PJSEKAI. PJSEKAIs Mv for this one is amazing. While pjdivas is plain.
BRG: PJSK. I love the references and the choreo SO MUCH.
Childish War: pjsk. I love the references like in the argument. I also love the choreography and how the characters act. (I know their names ok?)
HW: pjdiva. I love the POV like camera shots it just makes it look like you’re working with Luka.
1, 2, Fanclub: Both. I love the effects in WxS version and I love how energetic the pjdiva one is!
Diva MVs are always better. The only exception may be Kimagure Mercy, but that isn't in Diva so we'll never know (Diva is dead)
project diva is better in terms of graphics quality and shading, especially compared to pjsk's earlier 3dmvs since it was released fully complete. IDK man I just generally like pjsk better for nitpicky reasons. I think its best explained with the maretu 3dmvs. the project diva one has better particle effects, and the big lightup piece it the background is really well done, it defiantly grives a great sense of scale, not to mention the dance has more interesting choreography overall than the pjsk one has. However the outfit they gave miku is just so aggressively dated its honestly distracting, the stupid red heart face tattoo, and the long gloves pared with the really low cut square skirt just feel bad to look at (project diva has a habit of using some of the worst costuming choices ever made for miku and most of the time they feel either unrelated or baffling like the childish war cat costumes) and i know they can do better because tokyo teddy bear and the intese voice of hatsune miku both have such strong choices it makes it feel worse. As for pjsk I really like their creative use of 2d graphics in conjunction with 3d effects, this when combined with their skilled use of camera placement to accentuate movement really helps the sometimes lackluster choreography, they have mastered the art of getting really hype moments in their 3dmvs this along with their generally non-offensive costuming really makes the 3dmv stand out to me compared to the pjDiva one (side note when the orange guy has his attitude filled close-up i get shivers with how good it is). As for its poor points, its choreography can be inconsistent with its quality eg: split haires attitude close up is much less impactful due to lack of control in the characters movements, and if you pay attention to big group shots it is fairly obvious where they just decided to slide all the characters around. Overall I just like the mareteru one better butcause of the really cool transition to the white background with the album cover, it creates a much stronger impression than the quiet compitance of some of the project diva cover making it feel a lot more cool and in the scene than the baffling costuming and very 2010s coded ganamstyle disco dance floor in front of a vegas strip sign. Both maretu covers feel very edgy-teen like, but we can all tell wich one of these was made for 12 year-olds and wich of these was made for 16 year-olds, they both succeded at reaching their target markets but only one of these you will be willing to show to a normie in order to show off the song.
not to say that Project diva is bad, I thing many of the 3dmvs are good and still hold up to analysis, but they can tend to feel extremely dated, and it doesn't help that pjsk releases like 2 copies of each 3dmv with allows them to adapt the costumes to player feedback. Im not sure if I will feel the same way about pjsk in a couple of years but since i don't have much nostalia for pjDIVA and the dating can feel so aggressive it definitely factors into my enjoyment of the video
you can also change the costumes in project diva tho
@@グレン-u7d this is thier official video. someone was paid to decide what costume to use to promote project diva, and they chose that one. It probably looks better in another outfit, if some marketing guy said "maybe the heart face tattoo miku is a little too out there" we wouldn't be here. but someone actively made the choice to upload it as the best showcase that song and i will judge it accordingly
@@moonlightnightisalright2088 at least that costume is specifically made in the image of that song. a lot of the time project diva songs used costumes from the official PV/illustration of that song, while sekai only use random ass costumes that have nothing to do with the songs and have no official song outfits made by the original PV creator/illustrator unlike the project diva games
diva mvs look like the original mv with the story telling
sekai mvs more often than not look like children making covers of their favorite songs
which, that's exactly what they are more often than not as well
We need to have in count the disadvantages that every game has when it comes to the 3DMVs:
First of all, ProSEKA is an Android and iOS game, which means the graphics will have a slightly worst quality compared to the PS5 or Nintendo Switch Project DIVA games. Then it's the dynamic: ProSEKA has obviously more characters and that makes the MV more enjoyable while watching all of them develop their dances or performance in general. In the main Diva Series is hard to see a MV with more than two characters. That's why I think both are equally fun and illustrative, and can be enjoyable as well. There's no need to say "these are better than those".
Project Diva will always be superior
Hot take I don’t feel that project diva and project sekai Mvs can really be compared equally
Project diva is more story focused and feel like a music video you might watch on yt it also usually has about 1-2 Vocaloids which makes easier to give screen time to each Vocaloid equally
While project sekai feels more like a concert (prob bc the mvs have to be played for after shows) and they also have 3-5 characters in a mv and all the groups have their own gimmicks (ex. L/n playing instruments)
They both work for what they are and both pretty good
i was gonna write a longer comment but all the words i wanted to say kinda left my brain so all i can rlly say rn is i like both pjdiva and pjsk mvs
Which Project Diva game though? Quality varies, and this isn’t a very fair comparison considering the scale of the games. One is a mobile game, another is a console one.
well tbf, project diva always had not-stage performance mvs since the first game and only got better from there so i cant say using a mv from the first project diva changes much
@@RandomHans When I say quality, I’m talking about in terms of graphics. The older project diva MVs tend to be more pixelated with backgrounds that have a little less detail.
@@Winterturning ok but does graphics really matter for the pvs
a miku made of pixels could be dancing but if it's "shot" and rendered in a certain i would probably still eat it up
hell, rolling girl and two sided lovers was on the psp and they barely have any changes in the modern day
@@RandomHans yeah it kinda does if you’re making a comparison for the two.
@@Winterturning whats being compared here is less so the graphics and more so the visual presentation which does includes graphics but is only like 25% percent of the entire thing
For me:
DIVA is better: Tokyo Teddy Bear, Hello Worker, 1 2 Fanclub (if using the MIRAI version)
SEKAI is better: Snow White Princess, Brain Revolution Girl, Childish War, 1 2 Fanclub (if using the DIVA X version)
I don't really like Project Sekai's MV's, maybe because I've always liked Project Diva since I was a little child, but I feel as if Project Sekai's MV's don't have any personality or creativity, it's always the same thing for me, it's like only the background that changes lol
Even if it is because while the concept of PD is to tell a story or something while the concept of PJSekai is to be a live concert, it could be much better, yk? Like, have more interaction with the scenery, or something like that. But anyway, who am I to judge? ┐(´ー｀)┌
Project diva on top
pjsk has wayyyyy better lighting and graphics, the technology has changed so much since project diva, but lets be honest the old ones were so much more creative. the new ones arent BAD theyre just focused on one stage and a coreography whereas pretty much all project diva mvs change stages or have some sort of storyline(?). obviously since theyre made for different devices theyre gonna be structured different, also they have to include all the characters singing which for pjsk is in most cases the entire unit+ a vocaloid.
i love both the old and new 3dmvs though, theyre all done so well and you can tell they put effort into them. :)
Project diva mvs are so much better 😭😭 I started listening to vocaloid and stuff because of Project diva and so I might be a bit biased but like I LOVE the project diva games soo much and the mvs have a hugeee place in my heart and although I also adore pjsk I think the project diva mvs are much better. I do think that the pjsk mvs are increasing in quality though! Its amazing to see! Personally thoguh I feel like we were robbed on brain revolution girl 3dmv…
tokyo teddy bear - project diva for sure
the snow white princess is - project diva
brain revolution girl- project diva
childish war- project diva
hello worker- project diva
1 2 fanclub -project diva
lol
I grew up with Project Diva so-
Project Diva 3DMV is more interesting for me. Project sekai one is boring when compared with project diva. But I can understand that project sekai is mobile game and project sekai 3DMV is good for mobile game plus project sekai use the choreography for after live in game
To me it depends a lot on what project diva are we on about… if you compare Sekai to X I’d tend to prefer Sekai (even though I’m more used to the diva choreo lmao), but if you compare FT to Sekai I’ll take FT
The whole thing with Sekai is they’re not story telling, it’s just people dancing on stage, like X, as for Future Tone (or even Mirai), it’s an actual PV, they’re telling the story though it
PJD is meant to be a music video, while pjsk is meant to be a video of a performance
I wish they all weren’t just dancing or playing the song in pjsk but instead having a sort of parody of shots like in Pj diva 😭
I thought you were gonna compare 1 2 Fanclub with Project Mirai, forgetting that Diva actually had that song in that one(?) game.
Honestly though, comparing any of them with Mirai would always be a sweep. Those MVs were GOOD.
@@SierraLarson2 True, honestly the topic was Project DIVA so ye, but I honestly almost forgot Project Mirai existence, thanks for reminding me lmao
Project Diva PVs > PJSK 3DMvs
If i ever had a choice, my answer is right there.
Comparing a console rythm game to a mobile rythm game-
I hope you know the word between differences and comparison, have a good day! 💞
I honestly like them both pretty evenly except for the l/n ones, its kinda sad how restricting having to stand in place is..
But other than that, I think pjsk does really well for a mobile game
Off topic:
Is it weird that I can play pjsk with the mv on just fine, but some projects diva song become unplayable with lag? Is it just my computer? I mean, it IS a console game and my computer is old..
I have mega mix, but everyone says ft and ft2 were the best ones, but I don't think I can get that on computer 🫠
The PJD ones are going to alwa be better bc they're running on Playstation, PC, and Arcade Machines..not mobile devices.
Unfortunately pjsekai has a story to follow and like, a bunch of models dancing rather than always one so it's very limited to mvs compared to diva not to mention it's a mobile game...
To me, both are good in their own way. Project Diva is more MV style. The song fits with an MV. Pjsekai, however, is more like the replay of a concert. Think of it a bit like k-pop.
Honestly I tend to prefer the 2D mvs in project sekai. I think the 3d ones are just ok most of the time and the 2D mvs end up being more visually interesting to watch
As for my opinion on the brain revolution girl part, i prefer both honestly.
For pjsk is because the lightning and the camera movement and angle.
And its the same for pjdv honestly
Pjsk just lacks a lot of expression and details, but overall I like them both
Truth be told I like both mvs for Brain Revolution Girl and Childish War
okay *please* tell me you can buy childish war in future tone
Ive got bad news
@@emerygrey1582 :(
You cant unfortunately but if you are able to mod megamix+, you can
Project diva will forver solo pjsk
damn i didn’t even know brain revolution girl had an mv for diva (i love both of them)
Why dose JP sekai get the good songs😭 I LOVE BRAIN REVOLUTION GIRL SM BUT ITS NOT IN EN SEVERS😭😭
I checked and EN servers are getting the song soon :D
It comes out later this month in EN soo :D
wait what dlc pack is brain revolution girl in (pjdiva)??
@@mochal0verr project diva X if i remember correctly
The mvs look very the same
@@Mia-wh9wwYT DIVA and SEKAI was all made by SEGA, but SEKAI was collaborate with Colorful Palette
Honestly, Project Diva X MV are very disappointing.
I really wished they kept the same artstyle on the pjsk models like in project diva, i hope if they make another project diva game that they include the pjsk characters cuz i love them sm but i can't with gacha games😭
No, Sekai characters don't belong in Diva. I think that would annoy a large part of the vocaloid fanbase who want the vocaloids, not random OCs that have human singers.
@@myon9431i hate to say this but I also agree with you. Prsk and Pjdiva are not connected to each other at all. They may be published/made by SEGA but thats all. The 20 OG Characters are not exactly connected to vocaloid or to Hatsune Miku at all. Prsk is just a game collaborating with Hatsune Miku and again like I said the OG characters are not connected to Hatsune Miku and the others at all. Prsk is like collaborating with Hatsune Miku just like the way Bandori and other rhythm games did but instead of event collaboration, its a A WHOLE GAME collaboration instead
Yeah Project Sekai completely fucked up everything about Tokyo Teddy Beat for me.