Difference between Project Sekai's and Project Diva's 3DMV
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2022
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Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage!, known in Asia as Project Sekai: Colorful Stage! feat. Hatsune Miku, is a Japanese mobile rhythm game developed by Colorful Palette, a studio of CyberAgent's Craft Egg, and published by Sega Corporation. The game is a spin-off from Sega's Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA series, and features the Crypton Future Media's virtual singers Hatsune Miku, Megurine Luka, Kagamine Rin and Len, Meiko, and Kaito, alongside the cast of 20 original human characters that are split into five units, each with a unique theme.
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA is a series of rhythm games created by Sega and Crypton Future Media. The series currently consists of 6 main titles, released on various PlayStation consoles, the Nintendo Switch, Microsoft Windows, and in arcades, the 2 Project Mirai games for the Nintendo 3DS, and 4 spin-offs for mobile and VR platforms. The series primarily makes use of Vocaloids, a series of singing synthesizer software developed by the Yamaha Corporation, and the songs created using these Vocaloids, most notably the virtual-diva Vocaloid Hatsune Miku.
(Edited) Part 2: ruclips.net/video/SkI37reWQZ0/видео.htmlsi=nMKJuV-jpdZ4y6gp
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Haruka here! I had been waiting a lot lately that someone will compare the MV of Prsk and Project Diva and post it on yt but to no avail, I still haven't found one. So I had been impatient until I remember I also post vocaloid related on yt and I sigh and mutter "Fine, I'll do it myself" HAHAHA🤣
Description is too long now so I have to put my opinion about this video on the comment section lol
The difference from pjsk is that 90% pjsk recycles the same stage and changes the colors while project diva has an entire world and tells a story and matches the song more
Even songs from Diva that reuse assets (i.e. Snow White Princess Is, Depression Cybernetics) are guaranteed to be unique.
I love Project Sekai and I like the vocals and choreography of the MVs. But the mvs are just...stage performances. Project Diva MVs tell stories, and those stories within this mvs feel like their own worlds. PD series just hits different.
I really can't give a good example...but think of the difference of watching a stage play and a movie ( I know this sounds weird, if I can think of a better explanation I'll edit the comment).
You are right.
In a sense, PJSK stages always take place as if they're performing on a stage. When you watch a stage play or a theatre performance, there's only so much the actors and stage technicians can do to make the performance seem "real" enough in how they tell the story.
On the other hand, Project Diva though sometimes performs on stage too in some of their MVs, they also have a fair share of MVs that take place in another place akin to a movie. They have the freedom to edit and add special effects that you can only get from a movie, making everything more alive and charming.
Granted, nowadays pjsk has been improving a lot in their mvds. Also, someone has pointed out that project diva plays on console, while pjsk on mobile. It is understandable why pjsk seems more "cheap" than pd since there's already a power imbalance on how much a device can hold all the commands.
@@kadeknadya3726peak point, and the mvs in project sekai has always been about groups performing on stages
we’ll skip with Miku, Kaito and Rin having their own mv with only them on it
The base line is hard to even compare since there's only so much prsk can do. For a game that runs on phones and tablets, they look great, but compared to the project diva games that run on more robust hardware like handheld and home consoles, and they get blown outta the water.
Also i always get so nostalgic watching project diva mv
Handhelds aren't more robust 😂 /better they're bare minimum console or worse
In that sense pjsk runs on "gaming handhelds"
Well what’s the excuse for why the psp MVs still outsell? Because Diva PVs were made with love, Sekai PVs are slop made for money
@@user-jx4cx4yx9s read the comment again. slowly
@@pau7886 Hell modern day iPhones and Androids can run Nintendo Switch games AND can run even extremely demanding games like the Resident Evil 4 remake. There’s deadass no reason for sekai to have crappy music videos
I like how much more storytelling and atmosphere there is in Project Diva, but the Project Sekai ones are just so pleasant to look at for me, lol
no offense but NOTHING beats the project diva mv for sweet magic it's just so good
i like this because you can tell why they are so different in a way? pjsk has to stick to specific themes sometimes for it to match the groups + have maybe an underwhelming setting. i personally like pjsk’s choreo a lot more but i love diva’s visuals and effects
Project DIVA's MVs just hit different. They have that feel project Sekai will NEVER capture
I honestly agree with your opinion
Real !
In project diva it is not said mv they are called pv in project sekai it is mv please do not confuse
agree but pjdv pvs are actually music videos and pjsk's mvs are performances
@@anthonynito1879 y'know I always knew the difference, idk why I said MV here LOL
Project diva mvs tell more of a story and seem to match the song more. Although i do really like project skeai vocals, often nothing hits hsrder than the original
shouldve shown the f2nd version of romeo and cinderella, it looks so magical 😭
I actually really like some Project SEKAI MV's , even more than the Project DIVA ones , but i feel like Project DIVA MV's just have that feeling that makes them really fun.
Of course it has that beautiful feeling because it is the pv of only 1 vocaloid, not like in sekai where 5 strangers sing to you a song that only 1 singer sings
@@anthonynito1879 well, and it's a mobile game. There's more restrictions on a mobile game than a console, PC, etc.
@@Naito115THANK YOU I saw someone say smth on Instagram saying “the MVs are more boring and lazy” like it’s a phone they can’t do a bunch of crazy stuff because of the limits on the phone and the file size and thank you finally someone who gets that too🙏 I prefer pjdiva for the most part but yes
@@anthonynito1879project diva ain’t for wittle mobile phones, plus they can’t always go with 1 person like pjsk did on rin last year and miku in the beginning 🥱
@@sanestkamishiroruifan have you seen deresute mvs? and deresute came like atleast 6 years before project sekai, compare the 3d rich pv of ankira to 3d rich pv of illusionista! I think if deresute could do it years before the release of pjsekai so can it if they invested
Project Diva will always be my only choice. The Project Sekai MV's have great choreography. But that's really all I can say about it. While Project Diva has amazing graphics, stories, and wonderful backgrounds. Everything about the PD MV's were magical. I may be a huge Project Diva fan, but I hope that the game franchise comes back someday. Also, I dislike how in Project Sekai it's just stage performances and how you can't have MV's of the vocaloid's solo. In general, I just prefer the vocaloids and the Project Diva MV's.
project divas always had the better mvs but tbf it is on better hardwares. and also i see sekais mvs as just like, choreography and silly dancing, with little to no storytelling in it, while most of diva mvs prioritize the story in its mvs, while only some prioritize in dancing which is why i prefer divas more
better hardware, and honestly, I'm not willing to fork over that much space in the name of a mobile rythm game. Downloading pjsekai was already a blow to space for me
@@nandi9902 bro, diva's mv be like that since psp
proseka's is meant to be stage performances, as they're gonna use most of them in virtual lives.
literary almost all the games are playable on vita your modern phone CAN run mvs lke diva
Both is amazing but Project Diva always better than pjsk, like VOCALOID tunning, story pvs and more
Even though pjsk mvs are really beautiful and the choreography is good, nothing beats project diva. It js gives off a nostalgic and original vibe yk
romeo n cinderella - project diva
karakuri parrot - project diva
time machine- project diva
hitorinbo envy - project diva
sweet magic - project diva
teo - project diva, though i like proseka vocals more
tell your world -proseka, project diva miku shakes a lot
Both games are great, people just want to argue for no reason trying to “prove a point”.
I fr need to know who is tuning miku in pjsk bc GOD is it so bad, she's way too high and it sounds so out of place, its so off that it often doesn't sound like miku at all
While I personally like 'vocaloid-ish' tuning, proseka's just straight up sucks ass. It also might have something to do with the NT voicebank they use. Heard it isn't as great, but I've seen people use it really well too
@yumeseyu the harmonization of not only the vocaloids, but also the rest of the cast needs work as well. You'd think that hiring people to make songs for your game would mean they know how to tune but ig they're wrong
@@FizzyVonDizzy They wouldn't need to hire people to tune if they just used the original tuning with producer's permission. Like they do with Giga's songs, using original tuning of Rin and Len.
@@FizzyVonDizzy Kaito.
@glistica frr.... (or ynkow...don't use vocaloids at all...bc frankly I think they oversell the "Ft. Hatsune Miku" thing and act like she's the main focus of the game)
Despite how successful Project Sekai Turned out to be as a old player from Project Diva. The project Diva Game Still Hold up
What is it with project sekai where the vocaloids' tuning always feels like an afterthought
I honestly like the project diva animations better but the project sekais is still really good tho
The Project Sekai MVs look fairly good, considering it has its limitations since it's on mobile platforms.
Romeo and Cinderella - Project Diva
Karakuri pierrot - Project Diva
Time machine - project diva
Hitorinbo envy - Project diva for baground project sekai for choreography
Sweet magic - project diva
Teo - Both
Tell your world - project sekai
I have been playing pjsk for so long and never ever played project diva but omg theyre MV's are kinda better just a bit
Siempre he pensado que los MV de Project diva son mejores que los de Pjsekai, pero debemos recordar que Pjsekai es un juego para CELULARES, hecho incluso para cargar en celulares de gama baja (como mí celular), y Project Diva es para consolas y computadoras, así que es obvio que Project Diva tendrá mejor gráficos, fondos 3D y modelos
Project Diva F, F2nd y X corren en PS Vita (consola que salió en 2011) entonces ese no es pretexto
This genuinely upsets me as both a project SEKAI and DIVA player, I’m sorry if that’s not your intention but seeing so many people trash on SEKAI’S MVs when someone of them are very early year 1 MVs and also not thinking about the fact that DIVA was an arcade build/PS4 built game while SEKAI’s a mobile/table game is infuriating to me, too much even. Something like the song “MOTTO!” Is my opinion has a beautiful 3DMV for SEKAI, a lot of year 3 MVs are more developed with them playing around more with effects and cameras. SEKAI is just staring, DIVA has had years of development, just compare the first DIVA MVS to Mega Mix’s (few) new MVs like 39 Music. With time comes more experiments and colorful MVs (and of course hardware upgrades)
Mobiles is more powerfull then ps vita and switch (pjdv f/x, megamix)
@@gero9307 bad argument as they were originally developed for arcade/ps4, and that still doesn’t excuse the comparison nor consider the fact that not every phone is a “gaming” phone with high processing
the psp games have way better pvs
@@shinosu2328 true
Project Mirai
Pjsk is more like onstage performance while Project Diva's performance is more free/has more freedom regarding the backgrounds, outfits, and effects to fit the songs (And ofc the Vocaloid tune is better in Project Diva).
The only bad pjsk mv is hitorinbo envy because it looks like they just put random dance moves together and it looks messy
ok i hate to say it here but all of project diva mvs in the video is literally over 10 years old also some of them from pjdv F which is from psvita, a limited hardware device that also over 10 years old so im 100% that mobile devices can run pjdv mvs without any problems. ITS JUST BECAUSE SEGA IS TOO LAZY TO MAKE STORY MVS LIKE PJDV ON PJSK. So basically its not because of your phone sucks, its because sega is lazy thats all
Of course, modern phones are more than compatible with Project Diva's graphics and can easily handle it with some optimization. Most phones can handle heavy games like Genshin, do you think it won't be able to handle playing MVs?? They could possibly make Project Diva available on mobile platform as well if they wanted to.
@@glisticawhich they won’t
i don’t see them doing oldschool things like they did with sonic
@MikuMikuSanyuu I wouldn't be so sure about that. The reason why Sega doesn't give Sekai story MVs like in PJD is because Sekai is basically just your run-of-the-mill idol game that sticks to performances rather than the story of the song like in PJD. If anything, Sega was too lazy to make story MVs for Project DIVA X. Those were all performances as well, and that game predates Sekai five years.
@@victoriabell9546 well, you’re actually on point though. Both pjsk and pjdv x mvs are dancing mv cause sega need to reuse that for live stage or live performance so yeah i believe that is also sega’s choice of mvs style but still hope one day we will get story sekai mvs lmao
I would *NOT* compare Project Diva with Project Sekai because;
• Project Diva is strictly a PS4 game that's not on mobile platforms (although I believe modern phones are more than compatible with Project Diva's graphics and can easily handle it with some optimization)
• PJSK has a whole cast of 20 human characters, often they're singing together with 5 characters (vocaloid included) at once. While Project Diva often limit singers to 2-3 and most songs have only one singer.
• Project Sekai sings the cover on a stage, they reuse the same stage with lighting and minor changes, so they add a background which resembles the original world relating to the song. But Project Diva tells a story in a completely different world based on song.
• There's no way they would be able to keep continuing releasing new outfits for characters if the MV had them doing weird movements which would result in the costume being clipped through other objects. Notice how the characters in MV *NEVER* holds hands or other area of their body? Like putting a hand on their waist, it will never touch because the model will clip through.
• While Project Diva allows for more intense movements (like sitting on car, running off stairs) without much clip throughs.
If they want to make MVs being lag-free on most phones (those with less than 4 gb RAM), they would need to be careful how intense their MVs are and also how to not make costumes or models clip through over each other. Each game is good on its own way so I wouldn't compare Project Diva with Project Sekai.
Project Sekai looks worse compared to other 3D mobile games though, such as Uma Musume.
project diva isn’t strictly a ps4 game but I see where you’re coming from
it’s also available on both the nintendo switch and the nintendo switch lite
Most phones are more powerful than the PSVita where Project Diva F, F2nd and X (2012/2014/2016) could run with no problems with the gigantic PV the games offered
@@myon9431 I don't know what game that is, is that another rhythm game or?
Because I mentioned the reason their models look less detailed is so it doesn't clip through. Also, their hair doesn't have that white highlight, that might be the reason why the models looks less detailed.
I mean project diva is at most a ps Vita game with ports to PS3 and one (1) PS4 game alongside an arcade game that's also on PS4 and switch and everywhere. Also there are psp games
sometimes i feel like prsk mv and the characters in them feel really lifeless, while the project diva mvs really feel like you’re watching the vocaloid perform it
pjsk pvs are what most other rhythm game pvs look like (if they even have them in the first place) while (most) project diva pvs are straight up just music videos
stage performances vs pre-planned, storyboarded, and edited music videos
while pjsk pvs sound amazing, they cant ever come close to project diva pvs
except 'tell your world' here honestly im pretty sure that one was literally made to look like a project diva pv
project sekai hitorinbo envy choreography is just uh... something else...
like what the hell is that baby tantrum move
like what the hell is that baby tantrum move
REAL SO REAL PROJECT DIVA X CHOREO IS SO MCUH BETTER AND MORE MEMORABLE
@@Jelly_Stars some pjsk choreos are repetitive 😓 cause i always see the same move in some mvs
@@4evaw0n13 YEAHH IKWYM LIKE UHRHRGRRHGR LIKE J LIKE THE PJSK CHOREOS SOMETIMES LIKE MOSTLY WXS CHOREO BUT EVEN THEN ITS VERY REPETITIVE LIKE A LTOTTT THATS WHY I LOVE THE PROJECT DIVA CHOREOS
ratings as a project sekai and project diva fan
romeo and cinderella: pjsekai, although i love how iconic the project diva mv is, i love the motion and uniqueness in the project diva mv further.
karakuri pierrot: pjdiva. the storytelling is more compelling but i do like project sekai's choreography and camerawork better. however, i like the addition of the piano in pjdiva too.
time machine: nothing ever beats project diva's mv.
hitorinbo envy: pjsekai. although this was a hard pick. i picked pjsekai's due to the cooler stage and more active choreography.
sweet magic: pjdiva. i love the stage and more sweets theming in the mv.
teo: pjdiva. glowy scenery looks so cool
tell your world: pjdiva. im getting sleepy now but i like the expansive space bg and the cool effects
Project Diva always better
Exactly!
REALLL
Eh, not on Hitorinbo
Just change the models to project sekai, Perfect (project diva is still iconic)
Realest
What is project sekai and who are these random anime characters singing with Miku
the dreaded Human Vocals. anyways from my knowledge im pretty sure they're just made up for this game and miku helps them or smth
Nice vid sis :D
as much as I love pjsk pjdiva is better, but I love both
In project diva the clothes are more flowy(also W MV)
The dress in "gaikotsu gakudan to riria" tho. It's so beautiful 😭
Ok but hear me out ROMEO AND CINDERELLA ON PROJECT DIVA F IS SOMETHING
@@_dei The dance steps of Romeo And Cinderella of Project DIVA is amazing, I really like the choreography of it and there are times I practice dancing it but no one will beats the gay allegations of the choreography of Project Sekai. But still at the end of the day I like both of it
Why is there a war between both of the fandoms?? I'm in both 😭
@@AlgebralienSix as the person who upload this video, I honestly don't know🤣 I honestly love all MV's tho, some of them have points that PJDiva have a nice quality MV due to being console game while PJSekai only have choreography cause for being a mobile game, I understand that opinion but idk abt the OTHER arguments tho. So I just literally like letting them be😅
I feel like the main reason Diva 3DMVs are much more high quality is because they're an integral part of the game, you cannot disable them. But with Sekai they aren't (many people turn off the 3DMV because it's an option)
I wish pjsk let go of the realism sometimes and let the characters sing and dance in extravagant locations aside from just a stage
I don't care much about the mvs at this point, because prsk will never have diva's mvs, i just want proseka's clothes physics to be more like the diva's physics (arcade/swithc version)
Btw, f/f2nd mv's are more like Interpretations like prsk ^^
So, I've always preferred the Project DIVA PVs more. I appreciate the art style (no offense to iXima, but I prefer classic KEI) and the fact that most of the PVs before and after DIVA X had their own unique storyline, even if I'm not a fan of DIVA Tell Your World's choreography.
Edit: One more thing here that I prefer. There's also the fact that, unlike Project Sekai, Project DIVA uses the original vocals and tuning/UST/VSQX files, which is why they sound amazing.
Totally agree. Classic KEI can't be beaten!
For Romeo and Cinderella, I personally prefer Sekai over diva, but for most of these diva is better
Project diva for the win as always
( . _ . ) "looks at comments"
( • ∆ • ) "both are catered toward different aspects. Both are good."
Both Project Sekai and Project Diva look very different even though it’s a different game like for example Tell Your World Music Video etc XD
fun fact: pjsk originally had codename "Project Diva Online"
pjdv solos always
Project diva is still slaying
Me cag0 en Project Sekai 🗿
Not gonna like project diva is more detailed, cleaner and or better quality, but less movement in a couple of the diva shows, on the other hand project sekai adds a little more movement and some more detail to the 3d shows.
I must say i like both of the show/performance games equally :3
Did they abandoned the Diva series because there hasn't been an update of a new game after Diva X
@@uwu1970 nope they didnt abandon it, they got project diva future tone that is released like almost the same year of Project Sekai
Actually, Arcade Future Tone came out after Diva X in 2019. Mega39's/MegaMix for the Nintendo Switch was released in 2020, with MegaMix+ releasing in 2021 on PC.
For me, the only one here that is undeniably better than DIVA, is Hitorinbo Envy
Project sekai is a mobile game so they cant do too much and the mvs are supposed to be like a concert and project diva mvs are like actual music videos
Project Sekai looks worse than other mobile games though, such as Uma Musume.
Most phones that support sekai are more powerful than a switch.
Justo pensando en el Javier xd
sovl vs sovless 😔
most of these songs really don't work as group songs, almost all of the originals are better
Not trying to be bitter but Project Diva will always OP. Being an old fan, Im sick of 'PJSK-labeled'. I want to hear the original song not the pjsk one. "Romeo and cinderella pjsk lyrics romaji color coded" Especially in RUclips and Spotify
Solitary Envy ❤❤❤❤❤
Teooo ❤❤❤❤
Teo mi canción ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
6:28 a Teo le nombró Javier no se porque
Xddd
I don't like the pjsk art style. I also don't care about any/all of the non-vocaloid characters.
even if i agree, pjsk is meant to be run on mobile devices so you just cant have diva style mvs for obvious reasons
@u_u._x If games like Miku Tap and Miku Flick, which use Project DIVA PVs, were able to run on mobile devices, why wouldn't Sega and Colorful Palette do the same for Sekai? For example, the audio for World Is Mine uses the same audio as the original Project DIVA PSP games. They could've had those PVs play in the background as a legacy thing and as an invitation to DIVA players.
@@victoriabell9546 because the pvs in those games were probably videos, not animated
even so, its a different game, with different characters and different audience. If it had diva pvs id just be a project diva knockoff for mobile and imo would feel cheap and rushed. Who cares anyway 90% of players dont play with the mv on lel
@@u_u._x Most phones that support sekai are more powerful than a switch.
@@u_u._x the games were made for the vita a modern phone could run diva mvs
Of course Project Diva‘s MVs are way better but PJSK couldn‘t have MVs on that level, if they try to recreate everything with those visuals for each of those groups, you would lose saving space on your phone, for an Android/IOS game PJSK is doing amazing, 4th anniversary we‘re coming and the visuals also keep improving 🫶🏼
Project diva cuenta historias, pjsk es más como una presentación, es por eso que se ven diferentes
Romeo and Cinderella - tied
Karakuri Pierrot - tied
Time Machine - project diva
Hintorinbo Envy - project diva
Sweet Magic - pjsekai
Teo - PROJECTDIVAPROJECTDIVA
Tell your world - pjsekai
For karakuri pierrot, its gotta be diva. They managed to animate a piano correctly 😭 ruclips.net/video/sHZ7cQUoOYw/видео.htmlsi=7p587-3_8GOEKR8H
all these newgens in the comments saying pjsk is better is actually crazy
as a newgen (maybe?? technically my vocaloid fan-ness started in like 2015 but only took off in like 2021) i dont even understand this. I think project sekai fans just happen to be another breed.
@@Nativah._. for me its the pjsk fans who are newgens not new vocaloid fans!! ur all good and ur so right
I understand why project diva's 3DMV are better, than the project sekai's 3DMV, project diva's 3DMV is good at cost and doesnt lag, but expect for project sekai's 3DMV are lag, on the app when u turn on the 3DMV its very laggy and cant focus the chart and notes cause the light of the background and the quality, the quality is so high than the project diva's, im suprise at the project diva's 3dmv are surprising and amused have some cool expressions.
The project sekai ones arent even in symc
Where’s the MyGO!!!!! Comparison? They sweep, not even a competition.
That's cause this is a diva vs sekai comparison, not a bandori one !?!?!
@@gracerhodes2005 ???? I don't understand. Where is MyGO!!!!? They would save this video. They would save you. GIANT MySAVIOUR!!!!!
@@GiantMyGO lol this video is abt Project Sekai and Project Diva😅😂 This is not Bandori
@@GiantMyGOWRONG GAME!!!!! This isn't BanG Dream Girls Band Party! Plus, MyGO!!!!! has a limited number of covers shared with any of the units in Project Sekai.
I play pjsk and for me their mvs r more fun to watch, Also it runs on tablets so comparing then is unfair, But i perfer pjsks.
Most phones that support sekai are more powerful than a switch.
@@gero9307 Phones arent as powerful as you think.
@@kavylavx my runs megamix perfectly (8+ gen 1)
@@gero9307 mine runs android 13 really nicely and i can't handle 3d mvs
might be attacked but why do i like pjsks better
Yes, from a visual aspect. Diva is way better than Sekai
But from a gameplay aspect (how you hit notes)? Sekai wins. At least for me
Nah man, diva ftw in both visual and gameplay
I highly prefer project diva the most and hatsune miku will always be number one. Miku is the only singer who looks best and most beautiful when she sings alone and if she is paired with another character, it doesn't look good on Miku at all! And I still love project diva hatsune miku's video the most.
Project sekai was a mistake😊
Pjsk was made bc pjdiva was dying
@@Marslovesrainbows and you think it helped? I've seen people in this community correcting other vocaloid fans wrong information as if they know anything, and I saw someone use a project diva icon and didn't even know the game at all 💀? Project sekai overshadowed project diva, it didn't help
@@Marslovesrainbows it died even more after pjsk fyi
@@ReiiRei_39SEGA plan is to increase the popularity of vocaloid [those owned by CRYPTON] and survive in world of music as project diva is slowly dying. The good part is that many vocaloid producer can actively take part in this project and even make them more recognized by people. Some of them even return from hiatus. And the cons, which i understand your points, those new players and new people who first time enter vocaloid fandom often make false/misunderstood statement.
it is not, it actually helps a lot to find new vocaloid fans and it helps old vocaloid producer to come back to vocaloid community once again for example toa (IDSMILE, PATCHWORK STOCCATO), doriko(ROMEO & CINDERELLA, Purpose), scop(IRONY, SURESURE) and many more. pjsekai bring back old fans return to the vocaloid community