I just ordered one directly from Sony. With my military discount and points back from my last purchase I payed $850 from Sony new with a 2 year warranty. The reason I got this is because I am new and starting out. The first lens I got was the FE 20mm f1.8 G from all the reviews it is supposed to be a really good wide angle prime. I opted for the 24-50 because it covers the next 3 prime lenses, it is a small lens and less $ than buying the 3 primes 24-35-50... The image quality of both these lenses I got are always compared to the GM lenses that are twice or more than twice the price. So for being new to these detachable lens cameras I think I did pretty well. The camera I chose is the a7c-ii for the compact size and the sensor is supposed to be great for night time photography. I will be taking pictures of the Milky Way, Nebulas, planets, and the moon. My next lens will be Sigma 150-600mm F5/-6.3 DG DN for moon photos and birds in my trees out back. Cheers~
I low key think the Tamron F2.8 20-40mm is the better purchase. With a 1.5x Super 35 crop or clear image zoom, the end becomes a 60mm and the price is almost half.
@@learningcameras for tradeshows and travel the extra 20mm is so useful for my Sony A7iv to battle the crop in 4K 60p on the end and also give me 60mm on the long end
The price is almost half but the performance is also half … zero buttons , so the experience of shooting with is not the same … stabilization, no breathing comp… and the quality you can have with a Sony lens like this one , you can’t have with the 20-40 , the range is cool , but the performance is good but not exceptional, the Sony in this case is far superior , we always have to chose the best option for us 😅
Exactly the goal of Sony on this one and fit perfectly smaller a7c,a7cII,a7cR line ups and reduce weight for bigger camera as well. Also the 67mm makes it compatible with the Tamron line up.
@@CC-gt3ro I just ordered one directly from Sony. With my military discount and points back from my last purchase I payed $850 from Sony new with a 2 year warranty. The reason I got this is because I am new and starting out. The first lens I got was the FE 20mm f1.8 G from all the reviews it is supposed to be a really good wide angle prime. I opted for the 24-50 because it covers the next 3 prime lenses, it is a small lens and less $ than buying the 3 primes 24-35-50... The image quality of both these lenses I got are always compared to the GM lenses that are twice or more than twice the price. So for being new to these detachable lens cameras I think I did pretty well. The camera I chose is the a7c-ii for the compact size and the sensor is supposed to be great for night time photography I payed $1,979.99 new from Sony... I will be taking pictures of the Milky Way, Nebulas, planets, and the moon. My next lens will be Sigma 150-600mm F5/-6.3 DG DN for moon photos and birds in my trees out back. Cheers~
Game changer for me. It's the first f/2.8 zoom for full frame that I am actually interested in. Closest before was the Sigma 28-70mm Contemporary. But I passed because of the stepper motor and no weather sealing. This Sony 24-50mm gives me additional quality of life improvements - smaller and lighter, aperture ring and compared to the Tamron 20-40mm, it works better with active IS and has better tracking AF
Great video man! Loved the breakdown and the legitimate pros and cons as they pertain to the real world. And I totally agree that had this been a 20-50, the lens would be a fantastic new addition to an already excellent Sony catalogue. I would have happily paid a few hundred bucks more for that extra width. The set and the b-roll look super sharp as well
Might need to do that because quite a few people are mentioning that lens. When Sony first showed me this 24-50, they showed me direct comparisons with the Tamron 20-40 and the Sony was noticeably sharper. Does that matter?
@@learningcameras No, doesn't matter. I believe in your comparisons and reviews. I bought a few lenses after watching your review. I do 100% agree with you that 24-50 feels a bit awkward. Can't wait for your comparison.
Love my tamron 20-40mm 2.8 especially for gimbal, also for macro shots. The 20mm wide is game changer for video. Only if Sony make it 20-50 that would be amazing. Also, the Tamron 20-40 is very cheap.
Thanks for your comment. I was planning to buy the sony lens but I Will go with the tamron one. I just start video and I was looking for something lighter for the gimbal
Quite a few votes for that! Might need to do a direct comparison. When Sony first showed me this lens, they showed me direct comparisons with the Tamron 20-40 and the Sony was noticeably sharper. Does that matter?
@@learningcameras sharpness does matter for sure. Would love to see some direct comparisons. I saw another review by a sony ambassador gushing over the sharpness so if it is indeed that sharp then its worth it. But then again I already own the 24-70 gmii so probably not worth it for me.
@ethis894 Sony definitely made it seem like this 24-50 was insanely sharp when they showed us the lens. In my initial tests, it's very good but compared to the typical 24-70 F2.8 options, I wasn't seeing any big improvements in detail. I'd like to redo my tests though to make sure I wasn't screwing up focus because I definitely expected this to blow them away so I'll be double checking this when I hopefully make a comparison video with a bunch of other lenses
4:35 The LM motors in the 24-50 are not half of what you get in the GMII. The GMII uses High Thrust Extreme Dynamic Linear Motors. The 24-50 only has Optimised Linear Motors. EDLM Vs OLM.
I ordered one of these and it was DOA, not communicating with the camera. I thought that's weird? So I tried it on another body, and same thing. So I sent it back.
When it was announced I thought, Who would buy this? Well, as it turns out, me. I'm putting together a travel kit. So, I'm thinking about pairing this lens with the 16-25 G and 70-200 G II with the A7CR and A7CII.
I like this range 24-50 f2.8. I have 17-28 f2.8 very good for the gimbal with its internal zoom. But i don’t have standard lens 35 /40/50. I like the weight 440g comparable to my 420g tamron 17-28 and it is the same 67mm filter size. So if i buy one it is this one or a prime 35mm 1.8 to get a 1.8. But 24-50 f2.8 with its custom button and aperture ring, fast AF, sharpness would be a good choice for photo and good on the gimbal as well with the 35mm -50mm focal length with less portrait distortion at close range (with the automatic lens compensation) than a super wide angle lens with which you have to check the distance getting closer. Currently An option is to be farther and use apsc mode to get closer and simulate 42mm with my tamron 17-28 for more close ups. But the 24-50 would do it better certainly and in photo, apsc mode lose mpx, so i don’t use apsc in photo mode.
There are rumors that Sony is making a 16-25mm F2.8 (should be similar in price to the 24-50mm). If you pair this with that rumored lens and a 70-200mm F4. You get the range of the holy trinity with much of the focal length at F2.8 for a function of the pice
Because of the size thats why. They are prioritizing size over everything thats why we have pretty bad focus breathing. And especially for this one the distortion is crazy.
Because with short lens the need for stabilisation is much less than longer ones. The IBIS should take care of it. For video, I turn it off, use the gimbal data and stabilise in Catalyst. Best smoothing without a gimbal.
@tyourbusiness4429 every little bit of stabilization helps. Whats the point of getting a certain lens and full frame sensor when you can't get that true field of view. Not to mention its cropping in and reducing quality. If I get a 24 mm lens I want 24 mm field of view. Alot of documentary filmmakers could really appreciate that extra stabilization. Or even for like narrative film making in tight locations that wide framing is crucial
I'm sold on this lens as it covers my favorite prime lens focal lengths. I've pre-ordered my from Amazon and cant wait to start using it. It'll be perfect as my travel lens.And, the major selling point for me is that I dont want to buy 2-3 more lenses. And, I don't shoot video. What is also kind of strange to me is when people say, "If only it had...". Clearly Sony thiught otherwise, especially since there are othwr lenses in their lineup rhat satisfy these people. This lens was designed, I think, for oeople like me.
Your reviews are fantastic, Dan. Great job!
Means so much!!! Really appreciate that
I just ordered one directly from Sony. With my military discount and points back from my last purchase I payed $850 from Sony new with a 2 year warranty. The reason I got this is because I am new and starting out. The first lens I got was the FE 20mm f1.8 G from all the reviews it is supposed to be a really good wide angle prime. I opted for the 24-50 because it covers the next 3 prime lenses, it is a small lens and less $ than buying the 3 primes 24-35-50... The image quality of both these lenses I got are always compared to the GM lenses that are twice or more than twice the price. So for being new to these detachable lens cameras I think I did pretty well. The camera I chose is the a7c-ii for the compact size and the sensor is supposed to be great for night time photography. I will be taking pictures of the Milky Way, Nebulas, planets, and the moon. My next lens will be Sigma 150-600mm F5/-6.3 DG DN for moon photos and birds in my trees out back.
Cheers~
I low key think the Tamron F2.8 20-40mm is the better purchase. With a 1.5x Super 35 crop or clear image zoom, the end becomes a 60mm and the price is almost half.
That focal length never did it for me personally but the lens is solid
@@learningcameras for tradeshows and travel the extra 20mm is so useful for my Sony A7iv to battle the crop in 4K 60p on the end and also give me 60mm on the long end
The price is almost half but the performance is also half … zero buttons , so the experience of shooting with is not the same … stabilization, no breathing comp… and the quality you can have with a Sony lens like this one , you can’t have with the 20-40 , the range is cool , but the performance is good but not exceptional, the Sony in this case is far superior , we always have to chose the best option for us 😅
@@MarceloNadin these are all valid points.
Only adv of the sony is better af
It gives you the 3 classic F2.8 primes in one lens. 24 + 35 + 50 mm great to shoot with in inclemment weather rather than risking changing lenses.
Exactly the goal of Sony on this one and fit perfectly smaller a7c,a7cII,a7cR line ups and reduce weight for bigger camera as well.
Also the 67mm makes it compatible with the Tamron line up.
@@CC-gt3ro I just ordered one directly from Sony. With my military discount and points back from my last purchase I payed $850 from Sony new with a 2 year warranty. The reason I got this is because I am new and starting out. The first lens I got was the FE 20mm f1.8 G from all the reviews it is supposed to be a really good wide angle prime. I opted for the 24-50 because it covers the next 3 prime lenses, it is a small lens and less $ than buying the 3 primes 24-35-50... The image quality of both these lenses I got are always compared to the GM lenses that are twice or more than twice the price. So for being new to these detachable lens cameras I think I did pretty well. The camera I chose is the a7c-ii for the compact size and the sensor is supposed to be great for night time photography I payed $1,979.99 new from Sony... I will be taking pictures of the Milky Way, Nebulas, planets, and the moon. My next lens will be Sigma 150-600mm F5/-6.3 DG DN for moon photos and birds in my trees out back.
Cheers~
Game changer for me. It's the first f/2.8 zoom for full frame that I am actually interested in.
Closest before was the Sigma 28-70mm Contemporary. But I passed because of the stepper motor and no weather sealing.
This Sony 24-50mm gives me additional quality of life improvements - smaller and lighter, aperture ring and compared to the Tamron 20-40mm, it works better with active IS and has better tracking AF
Great video man! Loved the breakdown and the legitimate pros and cons as they pertain to the real world. And I totally agree that had this been a 20-50, the lens would be a fantastic new addition to an already excellent Sony catalogue. I would have happily paid a few hundred bucks more for that extra width. The set and the b-roll look super sharp as well
Appreciate that!
Please compare with tamron 20-40mmf2.8.
Might need to do that because quite a few people are mentioning that lens. When Sony first showed me this 24-50, they showed me direct comparisons with the Tamron 20-40 and the Sony was noticeably sharper. Does that matter?
@@learningcameras No, doesn't matter. I believe in your comparisons and reviews. I bought a few lenses after watching your review. I do 100% agree with you that 24-50 feels a bit awkward. Can't wait for your comparison.
I’d love to see a 3 way comparison between this, the Tamron 20-40 and the Sony 20-70 f4
Love my tamron 20-40mm 2.8 especially for gimbal, also for macro shots. The 20mm wide is game changer for video. Only if Sony make it 20-50 that would be amazing. Also, the Tamron 20-40 is very cheap.
Thanks for your comment. I was planning to buy the sony lens but I Will go with the tamron one. I just start video and I was looking for something lighter for the gimbal
@@ismaelbadarou4457 Did you get the Tamron? How is it so far?
@@nor690 yes I bought it. It is smart and so nice. It is always on my a7siii
@@IsmaelBADAROU-b4p How is the af compared to a Native lens?
Tamron 20-40mm for me.
Quite a few votes for that! Might need to do a direct comparison. When Sony first showed me this lens, they showed me direct comparisons with the Tamron 20-40 and the Sony was noticeably sharper. Does that matter?
@@learningcameras sharpness does matter for sure. Would love to see some direct comparisons. I saw another review by a sony ambassador gushing over the sharpness so if it is indeed that sharp then its worth it. But then again I already own the 24-70 gmii so probably not worth it for me.
@ethis894 Sony definitely made it seem like this 24-50 was insanely sharp when they showed us the lens. In my initial tests, it's very good but compared to the typical 24-70 F2.8 options, I wasn't seeing any big improvements in detail. I'd like to redo my tests though to make sure I wasn't screwing up focus because I definitely expected this to blow them away so I'll be double checking this when I hopefully make a comparison video with a bunch of other lenses
They should do this a higher level kit bundle and drop the price that way. Great with the C range.
A video full of very relevant advice 👍👍👍
Appreciate that!
4:35 The LM motors in the 24-50 are not half of what you get in the GMII. The GMII uses High Thrust Extreme Dynamic Linear Motors. The 24-50 only has Optimised Linear Motors. EDLM Vs OLM.
I ordered one of these and it was DOA, not communicating with the camera. I thought that's weird? So I tried it on another body, and same thing. So I sent it back.
Minolta released a 24-50mm F4 zoom back in 1978 (and also produced two later AF versions for Alpha.) The 24-70mm range is a more recent invention.
Yeah, I said at the beginning that there were other examples, but most new ones are kit lenses
When it was announced I thought, Who would buy this? Well, as it turns out, me. I'm putting together a travel kit. So, I'm thinking about pairing this lens with the 16-25 G and 70-200 G II with the A7CR and A7CII.
I like this range 24-50 f2.8.
I have 17-28 f2.8 very good for the gimbal with its internal zoom. But i don’t have standard lens 35 /40/50. I like the weight 440g comparable to my 420g tamron 17-28 and it is the same 67mm filter size. So if i buy one it is this one or a prime 35mm 1.8 to get a 1.8. But 24-50 f2.8 with its custom button and aperture ring, fast AF, sharpness would be a good choice for photo and good on the gimbal as well with the 35mm -50mm focal length with less portrait distortion at close range (with the automatic lens compensation) than a super wide angle lens with which you have to check the distance getting closer. Currently An option is to be farther and use apsc mode to get closer and simulate 42mm with my tamron 17-28 for more close ups. But the 24-50 would do it better certainly and in photo, apsc mode lose mpx, so i don’t use apsc in photo mode.
There are rumors that Sony is making a 16-25mm F2.8 (should be similar in price to the 24-50mm). If you pair this with that rumored lens and a 70-200mm F4. You get the range of the holy trinity with much of the focal length at F2.8 for a function of the pice
That is speaking openly, as usual on your channel
Why do Sony lenses never have stabilisation… I still rock my 24-105 because it’s so useful for video
Because of the size thats why. They are prioritizing size over everything thats why we have pretty bad focus breathing. And especially for this one the distortion is crazy.
Everything right now is reducing size and weight so they are making major sacrifices to pull that off including the "fix it in post" mindset
Because with short lens the need for stabilisation is much less than longer ones.
The IBIS should take care of it.
For video, I turn it off, use the gimbal data and stabilise in Catalyst. Best smoothing without a gimbal.
@tyourbusiness4429 every little bit of stabilization helps. Whats the point of getting a certain lens and full frame sensor when you can't get that true field of view. Not to mention its cropping in and reducing quality. If I get a 24 mm lens I want 24 mm field of view. Alot of documentary filmmakers could really appreciate that extra stabilization. Or even for like narrative film making in tight locations that wide framing is crucial
The 24-105 has a massive drawback that needs a fw upgrade. It cannot track focus when zooming. Tested on latest bodies Including a9iii and a1!
Putting this on my 6700 would be like a 35-75 which would be perfect for concerts
I'm still waiting the rumored 16-25 f2.8 at the same price
I'd go for that!
nice review!
@@leespendlove4925 thanks!!
If it was 20-50mm f2.8, that would seal the deal. The Sony 20-70mm f4 is the better choice for me. It's about the same size and weight.
I'm sold on this lens as it covers my favorite prime lens focal lengths. I've pre-ordered my from Amazon and cant wait to start using it.
It'll be perfect as my travel lens.And, the major selling point for me is that I dont want to buy 2-3 more lenses. And, I don't shoot video.
What is also kind of strange to me is when people say, "If only it had...". Clearly Sony thiught otherwise, especially since there are othwr lenses in their lineup rhat satisfy these people.
This lens was designed, I think, for oeople like me.
Boring lens… companies should do a 20-50 F2.8 instead, would be great with full frame + 4K s35
Tamron already beat this with 20-40mm lol
I totally agreed. I ll not buy one. I have 24-70 for my a7rV, and now l am thinking of getting batis 25 mm f2, for my a7cr.
Anyone else hearing a hi pitch noise in the audio?
That's my ears doing it.
It had me till Tony’s INTERNAL fogging issues. No use for humid travel around Asia.
Worth it or not is very personal thing, for me? totally no. For a short focal length range, may as well just use my primes.
Something up with ur audio
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If they made it, an F2 lens this would make sense…
Absolutely agree... Obviously it would be heavier, more expensive, and wider, would that be an issue
its a another worst lens
Too bad it’s not a 1.8
Even if it was F2-2.8, that would have been something to get excited about
Sony is a waste of money