Why is colonialism (still) romanticized? | Farish Ahmad-Noor

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    Colonialism remains an inescapable blight on the present, lingering in the toxic, internalized mythologies and stereotypes that have outlived the regimes that created them, says historian Farish Ahmad-Noor. Examining why these prejudices and narratives persist (and sometimes thrive), he suggests a multidisciplinary approach to reject cultural obsessions with romanticized history and prevent this nostalgia from perpetuating past oppressions.
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Комментарии • 471

  • @klaudinegarcia8932
    @klaudinegarcia8932 3 года назад +12

    We are physically free, but mentally we aren't free.

  • @neuro.weaver
    @neuro.weaver 4 года назад +60

    Why is that the Arab slave trade is never mentioned by people who suddenly remembered the ills of colonialism - yet do not want to acknowledge how it turned tribal regions into modern countries?

    • @DanielSMatthews
      @DanielSMatthews 4 года назад +17

      Most of the slave owners and traders in the Caribbean had Jewish heritage, most of the catchers and sellers on the West coast of Africa were local Africans. A few rich Anglo Saxons were the end consumers in North America, so the entire slavery thing has nothing to do with the majority of "whites" both in Europe or in any of the colonies.

    • @keenarnia
      @keenarnia 4 года назад +8

      They also dont care about Muslim camps in China that are there... TODAY.

    • @Dr_Jeff888
      @Dr_Jeff888 4 года назад +12

      Daniel Matthews white guilt is fogging your racist imagination.

    • @UnChannelDuVulpineX
      @UnChannelDuVulpineX 4 года назад +5

      @@Dr_Jeff888 It's alright to be White.

    • @umaryes4473
      @umaryes4473 4 года назад +3

      @@UnChannelDuVulpineX he didn't say its not.

  • @MiroMayne
    @MiroMayne 4 года назад +76

    This reminds me of what that one Palestinian-American scholar wrote in his book about Orientalism, i.e. that current Eastern cultures are actually a caricature of how Orientalists have painted our cultures. So our current cultures aren't even our real cultures... 🤔

    • @ethanchan3513
      @ethanchan3513 4 года назад +12

      I read about him in my university class. His name was Edward Said. He said that you learn more about the psychology and history of the West over the actual Orient.

    • @ZainaRaisa
      @ZainaRaisa 4 года назад +2

      Ah! Edward Sayid!

  • @harrisiskandar8356
    @harrisiskandar8356 3 года назад +42

    Romanticism of colonialism is like still loving your ex who is psycho or gold digger

  • @chengwei4576
    @chengwei4576 4 года назад +97

    You cannot wake up one person who is pretending to be asleep.

    • @Noukz37
      @Noukz37 4 года назад +5

      I was just thinking that! :-) But on a side note, I really liked his colloquial style of speech, it's almost like being in a pub with him

    • @candicechan8381
      @candicechan8381 4 года назад +1

      Cheng Wei 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

    • @DrillEntertainmentNetwork
      @DrillEntertainmentNetwork 3 года назад +1

      pinch them 😏

    • @SANDWICHvanquish
      @SANDWICHvanquish 2 года назад

      Unless mom's doing it

  • @sheksbear
    @sheksbear 4 года назад +26

    We love criticizing the present
    Romanticizing the past
    And Feeling the future can't be better than what we had
    May be because the history we know is written in a way that it shapes our thinking like that.
    Thanks for bringing this topic

  • @indrajitdasgupta3344
    @indrajitdasgupta3344 4 года назад +42

    This is a really impactful talk on how the shadow of colonialism still looms over us in the way we Southeast Asians fall back onto Orientalist tropes by self-exoticizing ourselves.
    We carry History in us. But, should we be trapped in history ?

  • @aufarz
    @aufarz 4 года назад +20

    5:10 it's very common in Indonesian movie/sitcom, that there's a sundanese countryside guy that so stupid, funny, and not know anything about modern city. Personally i called this type of character 'Kabayan', which is just a copy-paste from various local folk stories. Same thing goes over other ethnicity group, even Javanese. I think Papuan get hurted so much.

  • @seatheparade
    @seatheparade 3 года назад +25

    Thank you for sharing, it's so important for historians to share how much the past affects the way we function years after the fact; intergenerational trauma and internalised racism are very real.

  • @ittixen
    @ittixen 4 года назад +10

    He has a great point but almost completely fails to deliver it. So many words and barely any explicit references to anything.
    The only poignant messages I managed to squeeze out of this are:
    • Colonialism's heavy memetic load should go extinct.
    • It's unlikely to happen unless we question our default paradigms.
    • History must be in touch with society at large to have an impact.
    He had 12 minutes to expand on those but instead he just went around in circles.
    Still, I support this message. ❤

    • @ismailnyeyusof3520
      @ismailnyeyusof3520 2 года назад +1

      Well said, I think the main point is to be aware about all aspects of colonialism and that it was basically a form of foreign invasion. Perhaps the romanticism is a manifestation of the Stockholm Syndrome?

  • @myishenhaines1706
    @myishenhaines1706 4 года назад +17

    Garunetee that commenters that disagree of narrators point are not people who have felt the burn of colonialism. Isn’t that how it always is?

    • @bloodstripeleatherneck1941
      @bloodstripeleatherneck1941 4 года назад +1

      You can't guarantee that. Your statement is a lie.

    • @ronaldg6427
      @ronaldg6427 4 года назад +1

      It's not that hard to comprehend

    • @myishenhaines1706
      @myishenhaines1706 4 года назад +1

      BloodStripe LeatherNeck Look up: lie definition.

    • @ShamelessDuck
      @ShamelessDuck 4 года назад

      @@myishenhaines1706 you think in stereotypes. Rethink how you view things and people.

    • @myishenhaines1706
      @myishenhaines1706 4 года назад +1

      ShamelessDuck Look up: stereotype.

  • @chrissy4957
    @chrissy4957 8 месяцев назад +2

    This has to be my MOST favourite TED talk I’ve ever watched. Thank you so much for this clear and precise articulation of this topic. I’ve also come to similar conclusions. To understand history, human psychology and society, one must look at neutral facts and consider all relevant positions and perspectives. In this world we have a Monopol on perspectives. The perspective of former colonialists. So our collective social mindset is skewed. With that we are all doomed to repeat and repeat history until we challenge that mindset. Thanks for your work.

  • @berryNtoast32
    @berryNtoast32 4 года назад +47

    This was very insightful and I'm very hopeful that some will start moving in this direction.

  • @ifeagboola
    @ifeagboola 4 года назад +27

    Totally agree. We need to revisit the origins of the beliefs that we have about ourselves and the world.

  • @pensieri2596
    @pensieri2596 2 года назад +5

    Excellent presentation. Narratives favourable to colonial representation are often still captured in school textbooks (influencing the next generation) and media that are often not critical enough of the claims that "colonisation is good for the colonised".

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  • @manumudgal4988
    @manumudgal4988 4 года назад +18

    Amazing insight into this topic. I think it is same here in India, a lot of people still tied to colonial past and stereotyping/mocking their old culture.

  • @StigHelmer
    @StigHelmer 4 года назад +29

    Very important especially considering the Chinese expansion taking place now.

    • @AM-fh7ek
      @AM-fh7ek 4 года назад +8

      Israeli expansion as well..

    • @sebastiaandewit159
      @sebastiaandewit159 4 года назад +3

      @@AM-fh7ek how about the Arabic expansion?

    • @creativesource3514
      @creativesource3514 4 года назад +3

      Totally different to European colonialism.

  • @crystalairgood9845
    @crystalairgood9845 4 года назад +36

    This is so true for so many places besides south east Asia. Very well done.

  • @dzikrinasaira3475
    @dzikrinasaira3475 3 года назад +19

    Well said and eloquently put, Sir.
    In Indonesia (part of Southeast Asia), our great grandparents suffered because of the colonialism, monopoly trade of VOC, and a lot more. Yet now I've seen a lot of western ppl kinda justify the occupation n the colonialism like wth smh -_-

    • @dzikrinasaira3475
      @dzikrinasaira3475 3 года назад +4

      @Illmatic88 Ah, I see u edited the comment😅
      "Kind of like how Indonesia colonised Papua...."
      - said by someone who has never lived or at least visited Papua even once.
      Thus, I'd give u a short answer.
      No, we did not colonize Papua. In fact, there are a lot of foreign organizations and organizations funded by foreigners who keep propagandizing about it.

    • @indonesianguy4026
      @indonesianguy4026 2 года назад

      As an Indonesian they always annoy me, many Europeans I've met on the internet are a bunch of monarchists and racists who keeps romaticizing colonization tbh

  • @Platypus_Warrior
    @Platypus_Warrior 4 года назад +6

    Lived in S-E Asia. I feel bad about the garbage. White bring aluminum and plastic packaging without teaching about garbage and recycling in a world where a plate is a banana leaf and all was always biodegradable.

    • @jeskg720
      @jeskg720 4 года назад +1

      Well is easy to seduce the ppl of SEA. Just talk to their greed. Look at the thais for example. They would sell you out for 100 USD. Its their own fault what happened to them.

  • @riichobamin7612
    @riichobamin7612 3 года назад +2

    He still didn't explain why Colonialism is romanticized.

  • @JWRay-xh9wl
    @JWRay-xh9wl 4 года назад +24

    Because of the inherent behavior from the beginning of our self awareness that hitting the other guy with a stick is easier to convince who's boss.
    What's even more fascinating is the level of excuses to do so.
    Especially religious excuses contrary to the rules of said belief that you don't hit or do hit.

    • @fbaallied
      @fbaallied 4 года назад +3

      What do you know about African history?

  • @nyashapikirayi9473
    @nyashapikirayi9473 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you. Brilliant. Our minds are captured.

  • @mtumasz
    @mtumasz 4 года назад +6

    What happened to TED Quality Control. The man draws super serious global conclusions on the basis of his opinions on his historical and cultural perceptions.

    • @cristinaclaparols8712
      @cristinaclaparols8712 4 года назад +5

      The context is southeast asia. Not everything about the video has to be about the whole world

  • @DrillEntertainmentNetwork
    @DrillEntertainmentNetwork 4 года назад +20

    because the winners write history

    • @user-yp9vt3gf6h
      @user-yp9vt3gf6h 3 года назад +3

      facts

    • @musicofnature961
      @musicofnature961 2 года назад

      Sometimes the post Colonials write in favor of colonizers. Many examples available

  • @eduardogutierrez4698
    @eduardogutierrez4698 4 года назад +10

    Every region was colonized at some point in history.

  • @RubyJamez
    @RubyJamez 4 года назад +15

    Well we also romantisize European middle ages in the west and people had no sewers back in that times and were having a plague every decade.

    • @nietur
      @nietur 4 года назад +1

      do we?

    • @ro_cib
      @ro_cib 4 года назад +5

      Some Europeans ate mummified bodies and used them as medicine😬

  • @XnaugahydeX
    @XnaugahydeX 4 года назад +3

    Good talk. I think he hit on it at the end. The legitimacy of the nation state depends on the romanticization of colonialism

  • @pustakarileks7404
    @pustakarileks7404 3 года назад +2

    because the culture of Southeast Asia itself is experiencing degradation due to the unstoppable flow of globalization, and this cannot be avoided. artists are at the forefront of representing the culture of origin, it could also be by conducting cultural syncretism between the original culture and the global culture. The best example in my opinion is Javanese hip hop music, which is sung by the Jogja Hip hop foundation with lyrics taken from ancient Javanese texts

  • @oziologyify
    @oziologyify 4 года назад +8

    I believe Africans will learn a lot from this. I feel blessed from listening to this from Lagos, Nigeria

    • @cristinaclaparols8712
      @cristinaclaparols8712 4 года назад +1

      It's sad that the colonial mentality of countries that have been colonized before is still being glossed over

  • @92bagder
    @92bagder 4 года назад +20

    White colonialism bad, every other colonialism good, gotcha

    • @ammaralmihyawi3538
      @ammaralmihyawi3538 4 года назад +6

      Says who?

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад +5

      Ignorant. That was neither stated nor implied. You are just deflecting with ignorance to deflect truth.

    • @notsafeformiranda4271
      @notsafeformiranda4271 4 года назад +3

      did you even watch the whole video...?

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад

      I would really like to know in what minute was the race or nationality of the colonization refered. And if you are assuming it's white bc you think asia was only colonized by white people, you not only are uneducated, you are incredibly narcissistic

  • @NanoLT
    @NanoLT 4 года назад +5

    Are you blaming the will to expand and the will to exploit your local resources on colonialism? Those ideas have been around way before imperialism.

  • @bbt305
    @bbt305 4 года назад +10

    Why are all time periods romanticized? Why ask about a specific period? Your question is not complete!

    • @joannot6706
      @joannot6706 4 года назад +9

      Because he can talk about whatever he wants to talk about.

    • @ammaralmihyawi3538
      @ammaralmihyawi3538 4 года назад +7

      WW2 isnt romanticized and his topic is colonialisim... whats your point

    • @AM-fh7ek
      @AM-fh7ek 4 года назад +4

      @@ammaralmihyawi3538 How is WW2 not colonialism? Please explain. Also i think the question is why do they always talk about european colonialism, which not even all european countries engaged in. And never asian, israeli, muslim, etc.? It has been plenty of other races colonizing others as well, but we never hear about so called " people of colour "(which is a racist term in itself) colonialism.

    • @TheHorseOutside
      @TheHorseOutside 4 года назад +3

      Colonialism is not limited to any particular time period

    • @ammaralmihyawi3538
      @ammaralmihyawi3538 4 года назад +1

      @@AM-fh7ek i didnt say that. Read my comment again ;)

  • @Rhygenix
    @Rhygenix 4 года назад +27

    It never was romanticized in my lifetime. You are beating a dead horse

    • @joannot6706
      @joannot6706 4 года назад +15

      You aren't from the same country as him

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад +6

      Tell that to Trump and his clowns who just shot off fireworks at the sacred black hills that belong to the Lakota.

    • @TheHorseOutside
      @TheHorseOutside 4 года назад +2

      Have you ever heard of a Western film

    • @bloodstripeleatherneck1941
      @bloodstripeleatherneck1941 4 года назад +1

      The Comanche have no reservations. It's because no one was innocent in the wild, wild west. Which was akin to a Mad Max scenario, and nothing less.

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад

      @@bloodstripeleatherneck1941 What historian told you that nonsense? Oh right. None. You made it up based on Hollywood film probably.

  • @McFedro
    @McFedro 4 года назад +3

    Excellent, and applies to not just Sought Asia but al around the world.

  • @Kongolox
    @Kongolox 4 года назад +12

    yea.. i disagree, this issue is as old as humanity itself. The powerful exploit/marginalize the weak..

    • @fokjohnpainkiller
      @fokjohnpainkiller 4 года назад +1

      Might makes right. That's how nature has always worked

    • @DirtyPoul
      @DirtyPoul 4 года назад

      @Thomas Serrano Sure, but why do you find that relevant? The idea you present and attack is not presented in the talk, so it honestly feels like a strawman.

    • @DirtyPoul
      @DirtyPoul 4 года назад

      How does that explain why South East Asians romanticize their colonial history?

  • @dylanwright238
    @dylanwright238 4 года назад +6

    Very topical .

  • @pastorclay82
    @pastorclay82 4 года назад +24

    100 years ago he wouldn't have been a professor with or without the West. It's also hilariously funny that a South East Asian with an Arab name doesn't realize that's the result of Muslim colonialism.

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад +12

      You don't see your ignorance do you?

    • @jeskg720
      @jeskg720 4 года назад +7

      @@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism Islam is the biggest colonizer in south east asia. Malaysia and Indonesia is on the brink to become religious as Saudi arabia. Horrible .

    • @UnChannelDuVulpineX
      @UnChannelDuVulpineX 4 года назад +5

      @L'ukaz IV You using RUclips right now? Thank colonization.

    • @sebastiaandewit159
      @sebastiaandewit159 4 года назад

      @L'ukaz IV you never heard about whataboutisms?

    • @tomwarlitner5712
      @tomwarlitner5712 4 года назад +2

      @L'ukaz IV If you wanna create the best living conditions in human history you gotta break some eggs. If you wanna talk rape, we're back to islam{see the colonization of Sweden or boko haram or the UK grooming gang etc...}, Unless you just wanna hate on white people... which is racist. Anyone who understands history knows most colonies and empires were run by brown folks.

  • @jari2018
    @jari2018 4 года назад +13

    So Islam coloniasim are romaticized by the "natives on those islands? When you are Forced to change your name or names then its coloniaism. Poining finger at west when Islan came maybe 400 years earlier than europe and then there were China and who knows Japan and India too . But yes blame europe.

    • @TheHorseOutside
      @TheHorseOutside 4 года назад +1

      Who defended Islam?

    • @smit.x
      @smit.x 4 года назад

      India never colonized anyone, just because you were born 400 years later, doesn't mean previous generations were cult.

    • @harrisiskandar8356
      @harrisiskandar8356 3 года назад

      Our ancestors who convert to Islam and our ancestors that time still hold our land not the Arabs but when the colonialists came to our island they destroyed our sultanate and put us on their colonial rule and even monopolise spice trade by destroying its competitors which is surrounding kingdoms and then put us as British malaya and Dutch east indies not to mention our resources that have been stolen to build Buckingham palace or to support your worthless war.

  • @rublna3619
    @rublna3619 8 месяцев назад

    What you have talked about in this put something that has been vaguely clouded in my thoughts into clean words. Into a thought concept and a base for Action I want to adapt fo the future

  • @nixx5490
    @nixx5490 4 года назад +18

    We need to be proud, not ashamed

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад

      What do you tell the Indian children so they stop killing themselves? How do we stop non Indians from killing Indian women in mass numbers and end the MMIW pandemic? Let's hear it oh wise one.

    • @dmitrizaslavski8480
      @dmitrizaslavski8480 4 года назад +1

      @@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism just in case what do you mean what to say to stop killing? Why do they kill themselves? Second why stop non Indians and not all from killing as I looked stats and about 70% of those cases are done by Indians?
      P. S.
      I thought it was about India and could not understand why search results showed Canada...

    • @UnChannelDuVulpineX
      @UnChannelDuVulpineX 4 года назад

      @@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism Why so angry, little n-word?

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад +2

      @@UnChannelDuVulpineX if you want to be racist, at least fully type the word, coward

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад +1

      Yes, we need to be proud we killed cultures just to fill ours kings pockets. That in return, kept us starving and sent us to the sea to die. Fight innocents for no other reason than greed. And nowadays, with no kings threatening us, we still protect their destruction. So many centuries of propaganda left us so blind, we refuse to think for ourselves in fear we will see all the suffering we perpetuate

  • @fvunderink
    @fvunderink 4 года назад +11

    I’ll skip this one... never romanticized colonialism and don’t plan to either. #alllivesmatter

  • @adamasartislife2943
    @adamasartislife2943 4 года назад +12

    That is true we do "fall back on certain ideas that aren't challenged."

  • @pauljansen1137
    @pauljansen1137 4 года назад +11

    well..considering what is happening lately i would guess colonialism isn't being romanticized all that much anymore...

    • @nycgweed
      @nycgweed 4 года назад +1

      Paul Jansen yea when was this filmed and we realized this when I turned 10 and now with the internet , this is the best ted can come up with?

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад +1

      People do marriages in the houses where black people were slaves. Where people were tortured and died, people go to commurate and live the south dream for a day. A way of living that was only possible due to slaves and the money they produced. Colonialism is still very much romanticezed.

    • @pauljansen1137
      @pauljansen1137 4 года назад

      @@nycgweed agreed!

    • @keenarnia
      @keenarnia 4 года назад +4

      @@honeybuns8225 when are liberals going to go to Africa in masses and fight a war on slavery? They care so much about black people there is about 8 million slaves in Africa today. Get armed up and head out, fight a good cause since you guys care so much!

    • @cristinaclaparols8712
      @cristinaclaparols8712 4 года назад

      Idt romanticized was the right word, but in the context he was talking about, colonial mentality is extremely prevalent still

  • @MoriahMikhail
    @MoriahMikhail 4 года назад +7

    “We are historical beings...but we need not be trapped by history” wow

  • @lovemorenk6501
    @lovemorenk6501 4 года назад +4

    Colonialism was good, racisms not good, slavery not good. Colonialism played good roll for the history of the world .

    • @cristinaclaparols8712
      @cristinaclaparols8712 4 года назад

      Colonialism comes with pros and cons. A lot of the time, colonizers used extreme ways to control the people they chose to colonize. Though they did bring with them some parts of their progress, they also wounded the mindsets and culture of the people they colonized. Colonial mentality, for example, is still a huge issue to this day in previously colonized nations

  • @Matt-to1bi
    @Matt-to1bi 11 месяцев назад

    It depends on who wrights the history. Whoever the victor is wrights the History and it is often incorrect. Human nature never changes. The strong will always conquer the week. Stop being the victim and become the victor.

  • @StartupFundingEventGlobal
    @StartupFundingEventGlobal 4 года назад +6

    Colonization is a thing of the past and I think moving forward we just need to have love and empathy for everyone. Human to human :)

    • @smit.x
      @smit.x 4 года назад +3

      True, this talk was not pointing at evils of colonialism, rather asking for their own people to pause and self-realize.

  • @notsafeformiranda4271
    @notsafeformiranda4271 4 года назад +7

    So many comments from people who didn't even watch the whole video. I hate it here. My dad is a historian and professor of colonialism and he has many students who came from good schools yet knew very little about the horrors and truth of colonialism. They were only taught the "nice" parts or parts where our country didn't look like the bad guy.
    To those who don't believe that colonialism is romanticized, consider the fact that people in the US still celebrate Columbas day and view him as a great man who "discovered" America, when in actuality neither of those things are true
    Disney's Pocohantas is also an example of colonialism being romanticized

    • @jeskg720
      @jeskg720 4 года назад +2

      Hope your father dare to teach the world about Islam colonizing and destroying southeaast asia. Or perhaps the history of Arabic slave trade? Is it PC?

    • @UnChannelDuVulpineX
      @UnChannelDuVulpineX 4 года назад +1

      You should ask your fictitious father how to spell important names.

    • @notsafeformiranda4271
      @notsafeformiranda4271 4 года назад

      ​@@UnChannelDuVulpineX 1) my laptop is glitching so I cant see what I type until after I'm done which means I cant fix typos that aren't visible to me 2) saying my dad is made up is a weird hill to die on lmao. Pretty sure I know my dad better than you do mate

    • @notsafeformiranda4271
      @notsafeformiranda4271 4 года назад

      @@jeskg720 Ironically enough, since he's working from home (due to covid) he recently showed me some of the work that was about the history of the Arab Slave Trade. Not sure when the last time he thought this class was or if it's one they offer year-round. As for the first one I'm not sure as his classes change every semester (with a few basic exceptions obv) and he's been teaching for decades. I'm also just generally not involved since I'm more of a science/animal person. I love history but I'm not going to grade papers for him lol
      No part of history is "PC". Talking about it and acknowledging it doesn't make you non-pc or "edgy". Something that would be politically incorrect would be using cherry-picked bits of history as an excuse to say "all Muslims are terrorists" which is both factually incorrect and bigoted

  • @SnowElf_96
    @SnowElf_96 4 года назад +4

    Literally most this guy is talking about was given ideas and concepts by the West. If he doesn't want to glorify colonialism best for him to use whatever philosophies and beliefs that come before colonialism. Everything now is a by product of the colonial-era.

  • @jameshendricks863
    @jameshendricks863 4 года назад +6

    The gentleman spent 12 minutes talking about “cliches” and this was very much that. He literally did not say anything - platitudinous rambling. TED, for such a high bar, this one was beneath you.

  • @Buildings1772
    @Buildings1772 4 года назад +2

    one of the best talks ive seen on ted in a long time

  • @jamesbedugraham8056
    @jamesbedugraham8056 Год назад

    Yeah Asia is still romanticized by the Western World in Geographical location and sexism as well.
    This indeed is the legacy of Colonialism.

  • @nycgweed
    @nycgweed 4 года назад +12

    Who ever has the latest and newest tech and weapons will take over ,but eventually get fat , lazy and rich and don’t forget greedy and ruthless that’s how it works -the guilt eventually eats at you

    • @dmitrizaslavski8480
      @dmitrizaslavski8480 4 года назад +2

      @The White Wolf everyone one is brainwashed, but only white agree to go against themselves.

    • @Mussi93
      @Mussi93 4 года назад

      The White Wolf I actually wonder how it feels like to be paranoid and fearful all the time in daily life.

    • @user-ln6ne4xe9v
      @user-ln6ne4xe9v 4 года назад

      Whoever owns army . police and weapons can dominate the country , it was not decided by democracy or elections .

  • @josephgaribaldi4340
    @josephgaribaldi4340 4 года назад +17

    yes particularly Chinese neo-colonialism is that what you are on about?
    all of north Africa is still colonized by muslim-arabs is that what you are talking about.

    • @toastsoup489
      @toastsoup489 4 года назад +5

      They won't dare speak against their Chinese overlords.

    • @abdsalamelkhamlichi6677
      @abdsalamelkhamlichi6677 4 года назад +2

      You have been fed half truths.

    • @adearthical
      @adearthical 4 года назад +6

      South East Asia is infected with Islam as a result of Arab colonialism. Is that what you're talking about?

    • @keenarnia
      @keenarnia 4 года назад +6

      About 8 million slaves in Africa today.

    • @Weltenbastler2000
      @Weltenbastler2000 4 года назад +3

      Stop whining apologists. Take the criticism and listen to the video. If you think that the whole situation has been solved then be proud of having solved such a difficult problem.
      This video is also not about 'white men bad'. It is about a historian critising his people for not letting go colonialism

  • @songkok7hitam
    @songkok7hitam Год назад +1

    he doesn't exactly answer the video title question. perhaps the title is misleading and perhaps best title is the evolution of Asian thinking since the colonial days.

  • @Hosenanzugtasche
    @Hosenanzugtasche 4 года назад +4

    Why are strawmen still disseminated?

  • @dnguyen787
    @dnguyen787 4 года назад +18

    Looks like Ted is running out of good speakers...:-)

  • @AustPro
    @AustPro 4 года назад +5

    When your so early there is no when your so early there is no when your so early comments

    • @rudig5698
      @rudig5698 4 года назад

      😂😂

    • @AustPro
      @AustPro 4 года назад

      Took me a while to read it myself🤣

  • @OyesyesOyes
    @OyesyesOyes 4 года назад +9

    Excellent talk, truly seminal ideas to bring awareness for changes soon in our future, if our world is to be rid of toxic colonial mentalities, to be ultimately decolonized to live personally fulfilling lives, thank you!

    • @leviefrauim1425
      @leviefrauim1425 4 года назад +3

      What changes? A one world order? Giving the lands back to the original inhabitants? I'm sure it's all utterly realistic.

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад +4

      @@leviefrauim1425 What fear do you have about either of those two things, curiously? I don't fear either of those. Is it because if either or both of those were to ever happen that the original peoples would turn and mistreat whites the same they did to us? Is it because you think that's what happens when land is provided to one group of people that they would oppress, rather than share equally? I can see that. After all that's the only world you've ever known right? If you read a real history book and learned who real Indians are, you probably wouldn't hold onto that fear anymore.

    • @jeskg720
      @jeskg720 4 года назад +1

      yes islam is colonizing the world right now! Stop it! And china.

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад

      @@leviefrauim1425 why do people so much fear giving back lands to natives? Aren't the colonizers stronger and smarter ? Why do we need it? What is the big problem of going back to your native country? Is Europe that bad?

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад

      @@jeskg720 the USA destroyed Midwest government for their own oil exploitation. So you don't really need to be afraid of Islam. The USA already fucked them over. Ik we don't know abt it since your country does a good job in keeping their dirty secrets hidden. Abt China. Maybe you have to worry since Trump delayed quarantine and closing the boorders bc he had just done negotiations with China. Your President greed may just kill you

  • @subashsankar8019
    @subashsankar8019 4 года назад +8

    "we, Southeast Asians in particular, love to self-exoticize ourselves"

  • @peterg418
    @peterg418 9 месяцев назад

    There is almost nothing concrete here. Could have been 20 secs long. Say something about how colonialism creates in the minds of the indigenous peoples the boundaries of their lost history. Indigenous peoples are never nostalgic for their lost forms of oppression. Romanticism cuts both ways. Missed opportunity.

  • @TeleeFONE
    @TeleeFONE 3 года назад +1

    He's currently a Professor in Singapore. Will he talk about Singapore current state, being settler-colonized by the Chinese through racist policies to maintain themselves as the majority in Singapore, since he's passionate about this subject.

  • @Matt-to1bi
    @Matt-to1bi 11 месяцев назад

    Because more good came from it than bad when it comes to the modern word. Do some research.

  • @jrlp3499
    @jrlp3499 4 года назад +5

    What is there outside of colonialism? All the country is colonized.

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад

      @Il Bugiardo dell'Umbriatheir comment has nothing to do with Islam. Dont put words in their mouth. That is not an argument. If you want say bullshit, go talk to your toilet

  • @musicofnature961
    @musicofnature961 2 года назад

    Good analysis.

  • @Stallnig
    @Stallnig 4 года назад +7

    why are diversity and immigration romantizised?

    • @aimawaseem4436
      @aimawaseem4436 4 года назад +6

      Because they are a byproduct of colonialism and you have to live with the unintended consequences of your atrocities?

    • @DirtyPoul
      @DirtyPoul 4 года назад +3

      Why do you feel that your comment is relevant to this talk about how colonialism is viewed in South East Asia? Are you saying that diversity and immigration are romanticized in South East Asia?

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад +1

      @Thomas Serrano colonization had nothing of welcoming

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад +2

      Diversity and immigration was not caused by colonization. Colonization destroyed cultures. You can't have diversity by decreasing the number of different cultures you have. Immigration is when a person voluntarily moves out. If a person is kidnapped and forced to work, it's human traffic and slavery.

    • @MegaDixen
      @MegaDixen 2 года назад

      @@aimawaseem4436 no they are not.

  • @vikz5786
    @vikz5786 4 года назад +4

    Nostalgia. Like that hoary old soundbite of political leaders trying to sound tough, "The buck stops here!". Problem is, you can't buy much with a sole buck these days.

  • @mariatombo6547
    @mariatombo6547 4 года назад +11

    The early bird catches the worm

    • @theonlyatoms
      @theonlyatoms 4 года назад

      You snooze, you lose.

    • @xivix6710
      @xivix6710 4 года назад +3

      Not all birds are after the worm

    • @sebastiaandewit159
      @sebastiaandewit159 4 года назад +2

      @@xivix6710 that's why not all birds grow up to adulthood or die of old age.

    • @ard1805
      @ard1805 4 года назад +2

      The second mouse gets the cheese.

    • @fokjohnpainkiller
      @fokjohnpainkiller 4 года назад +1

      @@ard1805 And the Asian gets both in the end

  • @bobman929
    @bobman929 4 года назад +2

    Because that's our culture.

  • @mikeyx360x
    @mikeyx360x 4 года назад +8

    Humans originated in Africa and spread throughout the world. Unless you wanted humans to continue a tribal existence in Africa, they had to move to other climates and use other resources to develop other cultures and with them came civilisations that developed everything we take for granted today.
    Shameful, anti-Western world, politically motivated rhetoric is to blame for opposite views of such an obvious history of humanity and civilisation but it denigrates all areas of the world that contributed to progress too.
    It must be rejected.

    • @bluester7177
      @bluester7177 4 года назад +6

      That's' not what colonialism means, it's not fucking migrating and populating other areas, is fucking subjugating and stealing from people who are already there.

    • @mikeyx360x
      @mikeyx360x 4 года назад

      @@bluester7177 People weren't already there. They moved there, affected the ecosystem, took areas from certain wildlife (or don't they matter?) and built from there. You do know all continents have many tribes/groups who took from each other, right?

    • @xivix6710
      @xivix6710 4 года назад +3

      @@mikeyx360x by this every war by the name of expansion is justifiable

    • @smit.x
      @smit.x 4 года назад +1

      @@mikeyx360x Colonialism isn't about migration and learning or teaching a good thing. It's about brutally killing of native people for the sake of your own goods. Colonizers weren't building infrastructure for advancement, they did to ease their looting at the cost of indeginous.

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад

      @@xivix6710 i mean, that was the whole argument of Hitler. When he occupied other countries, he sayed it was because he needed space for economical growth. And somehow, other countries actually turned an blind eye. The poor man was just making an living. They eventually decided to make what is right and stop him, but by then he had already gathered a lot of power. And then the Holocaust and WW2 happened. But it's okay. It brought us technology and evolution. It's just the normal course of nature. Obviously it didn't have nothing to do with race and prejudice. Poor man just needed some land.
      Guess Michael up there doesn't learn with our history. Somehow difficult. How can you not see how much the Holocaust destroyed our humanity? But he sure does it. And oh boy, does he keep the same spirit with colonization. You go Michael!

  • @fokjohnpainkiller
    @fokjohnpainkiller 4 года назад +5

    Winning feels good if you are on the winning side. You know, the side not eating bats, stoning women to death, considering a child rapist a god. A shame colonialism was never cherished in my lifetime. A lesson for the next generations, *GO ALL THE WAY*

    • @umaryes4473
      @umaryes4473 4 года назад +4

      Indeed, let us go back to exploiting foreign resources, cookie cutting their people, daylight robberies, take their people as slaves and if they disagree, send in our troops. And massacre their people. In the name of spreading Christianity and white supremacy. A pity we weren't there to partake in it.

  • @BarryAllen-xg4pj
    @BarryAllen-xg4pj 4 года назад +10

    Colonialists: those folks who keep showing up with all those antibiotics, motors, and electricity.

    • @TheAngryHippie
      @TheAngryHippie 4 года назад +6

      And death.

    • @BarryAllen-xg4pj
      @BarryAllen-xg4pj 4 года назад +3

      @@TheAngryHippie not going to argue that never happened - just pointing out the double edge sword to cultural exchanges

    • @tomwarlitner5712
      @tomwarlitner5712 4 года назад +3

      @@TheAngryHippie Everyone dies. So does stone age culture, eventually. Humans weren't meant to sit around a campfire forever, eating bush meat and barely surviving.

    • @fokjohnpainkiller
      @fokjohnpainkiller 4 года назад +1

      @@TheAngryHippie People were already killing themselves in places with antibiotics, motors and electricity. There wasn't a need for that to be brought over

    • @Raky2427
      @Raky2427 4 года назад +2

      Do some research about colonialism from the point of view of colonised people. Then please return to this debate somewhat better informed. No hard feelings here. You just don’t really know what you’re talking about.

  • @abifarraz7178
    @abifarraz7178 4 года назад +1

    me as south asian people, the main problem is more because economic/capitalist and political reason. West country as producer high technology countries need market for their product...which is south asia... and to maintain that, they need political power. So their create pinokio leader to those countries to maintain asian human resources always 3 step behind...or in geopolitic term "middle country trap". So those under developt image of south asian countries will be maintain as long they could :D

  • @mikakura98
    @mikakura98 4 года назад +1

    The comment section is literal cancer

  • @cla99009
    @cla99009 4 года назад +4

    Because white Christian Europeans, despite (by modern "standards") displaying a self-serving disregard for other races and cultures, brought about more development, prosperity and increase in standard of living for the entire human race than any other group in the history of the world.
    As long as America and other white Christian nations continue to lead the world in prosperity and cultural export, the "colonized" world will continue to revere, admire, and attempt to emulate WASP culture in hopes of continuing to receive the benefits of it.
    If you want to "break free" of the romanticizing of colonization, then you need create something uniquely prosperous that doesn't stem from the fruits of white European colonization. Can't do that? Then shut up about it.
    It's like complaining to your doctor about cutting your chest after he's performed a quadruple bypass on your heart. Yeah, the scar on your chest might itch a little sometimes, but consider how much better your heart is working.

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад +1

      Who told you those lies though seriously? Did you read them after researching societies to know that as fact? Of course you didn't! American Indians were farmers, blacksmiths and built massive cities and had trading posts that traded for thousands of miles! Our cultures at the time were far ahead of Europe! Please stop listening and repeating those lies! It's bullshit and it's insulting! Pick up a real history book and actually learn something.

    • @MrMariosoul
      @MrMariosoul 4 года назад +2

      What term best describe de decline of 90% of indigenous in the Americas

    • @cla99009
      @cla99009 4 года назад +1

      ​@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism What lies, exactly?

  • @cla99009
    @cla99009 4 года назад +4

    I find is interestingly ironic that he criticizes colonialism IN ENGLISH!

    • @cla99009
      @cla99009 4 года назад

      @dont search Lavon Affair on gogle because I said so What "sheep" is he herding? Is this an appeal to southeast Asians to reclaim their cultural identity, or a chastisement of white Europeans?

    • @cla99009
      @cla99009 4 года назад

      @dont search Lavon Affair on gogle because I said so Solid argument. Who do you think was his intended audience?

  • @hasrinhakita4881
    @hasrinhakita4881 3 года назад

    Ustill look 'cerah'ustad.. the voyager☺godspeed u

  • @hasrinhakita4881
    @hasrinhakita4881 3 года назад

    Relevantly lad!!!

  • @malvane8061
    @malvane8061 3 года назад +1

    Excellent! Cannot wait for the follow-up video "Why is indigenous way of life (still) romanticized?"

  • @mosthighson
    @mosthighson 4 года назад

    How about humanism humanity humanization

  • @nickchase9150
    @nickchase9150 3 года назад +1

    Coughs in FILIPINO

  • @Phlegethon
    @Phlegethon 4 года назад +2

    He should give this speak to the lackeys in Hong Kong raising the British colonial flag on Chinese soil

    • @legalvampire8136
      @legalvampire8136 4 года назад +2

      As opposed to the lackeys of the Chinese Communist Party?

  • @bbt305
    @bbt305 4 года назад +6

    Some are more positive views than others and life was hard for everyone 400 yrs ago. Slow and obvious point!

    • @ard1805
      @ard1805 4 года назад

      But they got to have ponies....

  • @BanBootlicking
    @BanBootlicking 4 года назад +3

    He should try dialectical- and historical materialism along with class struggle. Those methods could explain a lot of his current questions.
    One has to understand, capitalism has arrived in Southeast Asia with all of its consequences that come along with it. In capitalism everything gets commodified, *everything!* Be it goods, services, nature, life itself, knowledge, ideas, values, ideologies and even the past. It all has to serve profit first.
    If you want to fight this peverse treatment of material reality, you must fight capitalism!

    • @legalvampire8136
      @legalvampire8136 4 года назад +1

      So you would prefer feudalism, or communism? Or some theory that has never been tried and may not work?

    • @kalleidemation
      @kalleidemation Год назад

      @@legalvampire8136 This is what capitalist propaganda does: it robs people of imagining what life could be, and what it used to be, outside of the disease of capitalism. Indigenous ways of living are far superior in dealing with life than capitalism. It has happened and worked before. Violence does not make capitalism better. If anything, it’s the opposite.

  • @bbt305
    @bbt305 4 года назад +2

    Stop repeating we we we. We fall back . We. Use I, because you can not speak for all!

    • @cristinaclaparols8712
      @cristinaclaparols8712 4 года назад +1

      He isn't speaking for all, he's speaking for those who are part of and also deal with the effects of colonial mentality. Some people broke free from the issue. Some people never really experienced the issue in the first place. We can't assume no one has dealt with the issue though because so many today still deal with those issues

  • @Marvelite97
    @Marvelite97 4 года назад +5

    The racism in the comments is also the legacy of colonialism.

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад +3

      Yes! EXACTLY! I'm trying to keep my cool but racists haters make that very, very difficult let me tell ya!.....Then again racists don't deserve any respect anyway, so.

    • @jeskg720
      @jeskg720 4 года назад +4

      Can we talk about Islams colonization of Southeast asia. Or is it too sensitive ? Cause its going on right now. Saudi arabia destryoing indonesia.

    • @bloodstripeleatherneck1941
      @bloodstripeleatherneck1941 4 года назад +2

      @@jeskg720 the fact it's too sensitive is proof it's the actual problem to address, and anything else is a distraction.

  • @nerdlingeeksly5192
    @nerdlingeeksly5192 4 года назад +3

    Colonialism is only bad if you hurt people, I want to colonise the stars

  • @SnowElf_96
    @SnowElf_96 4 года назад +2

    Well it did do good things and bad things. Like anything in life.

  • @joshuathomaskuriakose2615
    @joshuathomaskuriakose2615 4 года назад +1

    He is not chinese. Southeast asia doesn't include china. Get a map

    • @StigHelmer
      @StigHelmer 4 года назад +2

      Still true that China is expanding and threatening countries around it.

  • @pumarolz
    @pumarolz 4 года назад +5

    Again leave the past alone, remember it learn from it that's all,

    • @AM-fh7ek
      @AM-fh7ek 4 года назад

      @dont search Lavon Affair on gogle because I said so No it doesn't. You act like the past is a present. Seriously stop.

    • @honeybuns8225
      @honeybuns8225 4 года назад +1

      But we haven't learned from it. We commemorate it and ignore the destruction it caused. We keep the racist and misogynistic beliefs that the propaganda of colonization created. And even if we do learn and respect it. Look at the Holocaust. As soon as the generations that lived it died, nazis reappeared and we almost started WW3. We can not forget bc we surely will do the same mistakes
      We started colonization for exploitation, and when Hitler started occupying other countries under the pretense he needed the land for economic growth, other countries barely did anything to stop him until it was too late. The same mistakes have been repeated bc we want to ignore the harsh really

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 3 года назад

      @@AM-fh7ek The past is never dead. It's not even past

    • @AM-fh7ek
      @AM-fh7ek 3 года назад

      @@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Oh its plenty dead. When talking to americans i often times see how little they know about european history. People are ignorant they do not need to hold the information they are not interested in. Past is not forgotten because we as people like to remember it and we like to tell stories about it. But many people and situations are forgoten or never talked/written about or just lost in time. Its not the problem that we remember and honor the past the problem is some people get consumed by it and because they identify with it they make it their own reality. Nothing can change if nobody changes, you can stay in a vicius circle or repeating past mistakes. We all know we have the ability to make better decisions in the future by learning either by our own mistakes or others.

  • @ClockworkAvatar
    @ClockworkAvatar 4 года назад +3

    there is and was nothing wrong with colonialism.

    • @bigpapa1954
      @bigpapa1954 4 года назад

      🤣

    • @umaryes4473
      @umaryes4473 4 года назад +4

      Were you the colonised, you would not say the same.

    • @fokjohnpainkiller
      @fokjohnpainkiller 4 года назад

      @@umaryes4473 Hong Kong loved every second. They are waving British and American flags to this day

    • @fokjohnpainkiller
      @fokjohnpainkiller 4 года назад

      @@umaryes4473 It's almost like people that are capable of building a civilization like progression. Even if it is forceful

    • @umaryes4473
      @umaryes4473 4 года назад

      @@fokjohnpainkiller yes let's take the outlier of countless other examples. The reason they do that is because colonisation for the British is over and America is a symbol of "freedom" and they are being colonised by China. Its almost as if people can't progress without colonisation. That's what you're trying to say aint it?

  • @MyTube4Utoo
    @MyTube4Utoo 4 года назад +2

    Colonialism? Is this about Israel?

    • @AM-fh7ek
      @AM-fh7ek 4 года назад +1

      @Il Bugiardo dell'Umbria US & IS are paying all the extremist islamist groups down there. They have been caught multiple times.

    • @cristinaclaparols8712
      @cristinaclaparols8712 4 года назад

      He's talking about the nations that colonized southeast asian countries. Countries like spain, america, the dutch, etc. There were lots

  • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
    @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад +1

    In an 1823 Supreme Court case, Johnson v. M'Intosh, the Doctrine of Discovery became part of U.S. federal law and was used to dispossess Native peoples of their land. In a unanimous decision, Chief Justice John Marshall writes, “that the principle of discovery gave European nations an absolute right to New World lands”[1] and Native peoples certain rights of occupancy.

    • @AM-fh7ek
      @AM-fh7ek 4 года назад

      Why don't you write a few lines about Israeli border expansion going on RIGHT NOW? And its not by white people...

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад +1

      @@AM-fh7ek Why don't you write what you want to and stop trying to pretend you have authority over me, colonizer?

  • @welkinator
    @welkinator 4 года назад +2

    This guy is WAY too engrossed in navel gazing. Raise your head; look to the horizon and above it; now, move forward.

  • @laysvenancio1870
    @laysvenancio1870 4 года назад +2

    Genius!

  • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
    @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад

    Deconstructing the Doctrine of Discovery
    “Again,
    were we to inquire by what law or authority you set up a claim [to our
    land], I answer, none! Your laws extend not into our country, nor ever
    did. You talk of the law of nature and the law of nations, and they are
    both against you.”
    -Corn Tassel (Cherokee, 1785)

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 4 года назад

      Deconstructing the Doctrine of Discovery
      indiancountrytoday.com/archive/deconstructing-the-doctrine-of-discovery-vAHfau_vOkCfps7rRGPhAw

  • @MayankSingh-qg4zv
    @MayankSingh-qg4zv 4 года назад +3

    When I was a kid I was so afraid of pale skinned people coz of the stories that I had heard about the doings of Britishers that when I saw a foreigner in new Delhi I started running and screaming for help

    • @AM-fh7ek
      @AM-fh7ek 4 года назад +3

      So they literally brainwashed you into believing one race is evil? Thats called racism.

    • @MayankSingh-qg4zv
      @MayankSingh-qg4zv 4 года назад +1

      @@AM-fh7ek when for centuries whites tortured u, u won't end up living them also in India being fair means being beautiful.
      Being fair skinned in my country is regarded attractive and beautiful most of the depiction of Hindu Gods are fair skinned

  • @Audentior_Ito
    @Audentior_Ito 4 года назад +3

    Tourism adverts "exoticize" locales b/c they are meant for an etic perspective. You want a Frenchman to visit Vietnam, you will need to convince him it is not only different from residential Lyon but indeed different enough to be worth the exorbitant cost to access.
    Likewise, this presentation suffers from arguing against itself; aligning your production with the industrial norms that spread from Europe is "colonial" [perhaps the stronger argument] but then somehow so is exerting & reimagining a unique national identity?