All the Mandalorians that Din Jarin grew up with are just punking him, it’s a long going prank they’re pulling on him, making him think he can’t take his helmet off. “Shit, he’s coming, everyone put your helmets back on!”
I prefer the creed as portrayed in the Mandalorian. I like the mystery of the helmet. “Our secrecy is our strength. Our strength is our survival.” Mando is like the Lone Ranger, another noble masked man.
@@LoreStar I'm oppose to the idea that the children of the watch teachings are somehow "wrong because their different" it reveals a certain maturity to review old guidelines and alter them to suit the culture shifts at the current time. Mandalorian got beaten back and are weak do to there current doctrine in the clone wars and then the Empire age, clearly a re-evaluation of methods was necessary for survival. That is evaluation at work.
Has anyone thought that a mandalorian traditionally never removed their helmet in battle and that the children of the watch believe that as long as mandalore was not free then they in battle.
I like the different sects, it makes more sense as a living culture that has spread through the galaxy. Like our own religions and cultures splinter, change, adapt as they spread, isolate, reintegrate, this gives it realism.
I absolutely agree, there should be lots of variation in Mando clans and tribes scattered throughout the galaxy. It makes sense that there would be some difference in style, traditions and beliefs.
@@topshelf2000 not necessarily... in this timeline the great purge was before his time so he’s still taking someone else’s word that any of this existed. That’s his faith. (The belief or conviction of things not seen kinda stuff)
Interesting to note: Revan swore to never take off his helmet until he defeated the Mandalorians in the Jedi-Mandalorian war; or as he put it, "until there is peace." I know Revan was never a Mandalorian, but maybe there's a connection?
I love anything to do with the EU mandalorians. I love this theory that the modern Mando want to honor the Mandalore by never removing their masks. Both Mandalore the indomitable and the Ultimate wore breathing tubes which means they hardly removed their helmets and as far as I know no Mandalore ever removed the mask.
The other more boring option here is as Lore Star notes in war they do not take off their helmets taking on the identity of the Mandalorian people, perhaps they still view that the Mandalorian people without a true home are in a perpetual war for survival, as evidently they are still being hunted by some factions
When Satine came to power in the clone wars and became pacifist, some mando's groups split off. One group stayed in Mandalore to become death watch while other groups just left the planet to continue the original mandalorian tradition. In my thinking children of the watch is this group that peacefully split off.
It makes more sense that they actually split from the death watch later on when it scattered first because of the name and second because the armorer was definitely part of Mauls elite guard during the clone wars since she has red armor with spikes in the helmet exactly like they are shown to use there.
@@LoreStar not even by blood. just by birth on the planet, the same way someone being from texas is referred to as 'texan' just cause they're born there. if they follow any semblance of what mandalorians actually are, there is no "by blood" anymore, the last Taung died ages ago. Satine's pacifist Mandalorians are basically just followers of Arasuum and likely would've been obliterated by their older counterparts. if they entirely scrap all of that history they'd be so stupid tbh. it's likely they'll make their own version of it but i do hope they at least use a lot of it and dont turn mandalorians into just "ay we're a race of humans from mandalore that exiled our warriors to concord" cause that'd be lame. i wanna hear some dxun mentions and a lot of exploration of old history. din should know of it considering the group he's from.
It makes sense to me about the helmet rule, if you're going to go back to the ancient ways and given that we know that the ancient ways involves adopting other members of different species into their culture the helmet rule makes a lot of sense given that you get rid of basically xenophobia or racism along species lines and that none of them can take off their helmets so nobody knows that hey that guy is a different alien from me and thus more or less that puts a lid on infighting due to those reasons. Along with the fact that it appears they denounce their own names, given that Din states in chapter 8 that he hasn't heard his name since he was a child, thus further adding to the stripping of identity to become Mandalorian. Instead, regardless of specie, they're all Mandalorian now that they've adopted The Creed, and I really like that.
I’d say that’s a cool concept about not knowing other species but they still have to talk to each other and it’s a fact that some species in star wars just don’t speak english, so depending on where they are from or how exclusive their language is to certain parts of the galaxy it would be easy to tell what species certain Mandos would be.
I think it's more about preventing factionalism by being in a constant state of war as they used to don their helmets and leave squabbles behind. It's a very symbolic, ritualistic way of enforcing unity within their ranks which likely got introduced by an earlier generation of the Children when they all came from warring clans. And it was never renounced after they became scattered refugees. They just retreated further into honor code and ritual when facing persecution. Which makes them a perfect foil for the pragmatic, power-oriented nationalist liberation struggle of Bo-Katan who grew up in a maelstrom of warring factions, changing allegiances and the ever-alluring grand gesture of uniting the clans of Mandalore under the Darksaber.
It's likely because he valued the foundling more than wearing his helmet. So at least he had a valid reason for taking off his helmet. In the moment he found it more honorable to take off his helmet.
I've always believed that the Children of the Watch never removed their helmets because of the dishonor brought upon them by the Mandalorians who joined Maul as well as those who conspired with the Empire.
I believe it is just a quirk of this particular group... a symbolic unifying thing like vow of silence or shaved head in some monastic orders in Christianity and Buddhism. They could have just as well have a ritual tattoo or something like that.
@@lamebubblesflysohigh It could be both, it might serve the purpose you speak of but might also have its origin as what original commenter said or alternatively it may be symbolic in the sense that they will not remove their helmet until they have endured their struggle. Whether it be to reestablish themselves and reach their former strength and not have to hide their numbers/organization or something else entirely. From the looks of it though it seems that this tradition is permanent and will not end due to such a scenario so regardless it has probably become symbolic like you said. Revan also vowed to never remove his helmet in a similar manner.
Yeah, I think that's probably true. If these belong to the group that collaborated with Maul, then they've lost everything; their planet, their families, their honor. Basically all that's left of their identity as Mandalorians is their armor. That tradition might have started as a vow to never take the helmets off until Mandalore was reclaimed and their honor restored - so when that became unattainable, the helmets stayed on.
I’ve always assumed that it was to keep the clan safe. If someone took off their helmets and they found where the other mandalorians are that could be trouble
I can tell the creators of the Mandalorian are definitely Knights of the old republic fans, especially after I saw the sand people grab the. Krayt dragon pearl.
@@peeonu25 The Krayt dragon was in KOTOR. You could actually get two pearls in the game, if you betrayed Komad Fortuna. The pearls could then be used to modify your lightsaber to greatly increase it’s damage. Galaxies and KOTOR were released a month apart in 2003.
What actually brought me to love the Mando's so much is Karen Traviss Republic Commando book series. Never got anything close to the deepness in which she explored the Mandalorian culture, language, and way of life. Oya.
This. Traviss books are great. Also her books in the Legacy series where Boba Fett played a huge part even further developing the mandalorian lore. Traviss is the OG mandalorian nerd and the current canon lore is clearly very much based on her writing.
@@Josh-nd6jj Vikings didn't have a code, Vikings were murderers and thieves whom slaughtered innocents and burned villages. The Norse also didn't necessarily have a code of honor, there were different forms of Paganism which were followed in different Norse countries. The Mando's are Spartans, their armor is the equivalent of a Spartan's shield and spear, if you were a spartan and you lost your kit, you were disgraced, and outcast. Also the Mandalorian code of honor was very similar too most spartan philosophies at the time.
You could say Canderous himself is who the Children of the Watch are trying to emulate. When Canderous became Mandalore the Redeemer, he didn't take off his helmet and began to rebuild the clans after the Mandalorian Wars and returned them to honor and glory in not only the eyes of the Mandalorian People, but redeemed them in the eyes of the galaxy by becoming the heroes that were needed to battle the Sith when the Jedi were virtually wiped out. Think about it, post-Endor is a lot like KOTOR 2.
Only a select few knew the identity of the new Mandalore, as he never took off his armor and helmet in the presence of others, not even while sleeping, according to rumors
I wonder if Mando's armor is blank with no color scheme due to him not having any clan affiliation. I think that would be something interesting the show could bring up. Maybe he'll eventually form his own clan and paint his armor or join another clan. Assuming there are different clans among the Children of the Watch.
I would argue that there might have been some precedent for Mandalorians forsaking the removal of their helmets between the KOTOR II era and the Clone Wars, in order to emulate and honor Mandalore the Preserver, who was physically unable to remove his helmet. Mandalore the Preserver (formerly Canderous Ordo) had a cybernetic life support system integrated into his armor, which prevented him from removing his armor or helmet, similar to Darth Vader.
Din's way of the Mando seems very strict but not necessarily bloodthirsty. All of din actions are ment to build towards something that will last. Beskar for foundlings! Protection of the covert and it's secrets! Even refusing revenge against their enemy's (the Empire) and choosing to at least co-exist! Don't forget the only reason Din is helping baby Yoda is because of his code. The child is not some strong proven Warrior, it's helpless 80% of the time. So Din's (basterd version as you call it😡) is possibly the most effective peaceful mandalorian teaching we have seen without becoming full pacifist. Needless to say I'm a fan. Bo-katan seems to be trying to recapture her lost control over her people she even bends the agreement when din agreed to help her and that was just one Job. Not cool. Justify if you want I feel Din is moving on to other pursuits by ironically looking way further into the past then Bo-katan has chosen. This is the way
This seems like any religion, when they take a major loss. Some feel that they wouldn't have lost, if only if they had been more faithful. Therefore they tend to become more extreme than less or are drawn to the more extreme factions. The comments made during episode 11 makes me think that this is one of those factions.
Maybe the "Children Of The Watch" believe that their sect is the true spiritual progeny of The Mandalore, and as such, they are already "One with The Mandalore", and must remain helmeted as he did.
I like that! I love anything to do with the EU mandalorians. I love this theory that the modern Mando want to honor the Mandalore by never removing their masks. Both Mandalore the indomitable and the Ultimate wore breathing tubes which means they hardly removed their helmets and as far as I know no Mandalore ever removed the mask.
If you are going to create a new belief system (or restore an old one) you start with children and only allow them to know your own doctrine. Din doesn't know anything of the mainstream mandalorian culture he and all other children of the watch have been shielded from it because it contradicts "the way" . It only takes a few generations for lies to become truth, just look at North Korea. It was pretty much the premise of the film "city of ember"
"Hey, let's play a joke on that new kid, tell him -get this, tell him right, tell him we never take our helmets off - we'll get everyone in on it, it'll be great. Oh shit, while we're at it, let's tell him he has to find all the metal for his suit, just make sure no one shows him that massive armoury full of the stuff."
You don't know what you asking for. There's a high chance they would retcon the story so it would fit into stupid writing of SWOTOR. and make Revan a bitch.
Something that really sticks out to me is the call-and-response nature of "this is the way". Somebody will say something Very Mandalorian, invoke the phrase, and then it's up to the other Mandalorians to decide whether or not they agree. It doesn't appear to be mandatory to always echo "this is the way" when the first person to say it has done so about a dishonorable act. Further, it doesn't sound like anyone is quoting a set, written list of rules when they reference The Way. Their phrasing is looser, or super situation-specific. Every Mandalorian must *decide* whether something is in accordance with The Way of the Mandalore moment-to-moment. It seems very democratic, and a way of highlighting when someone is thinking out-of-sync with the group. The Armorer didn't seem to be an official calling-the-shots leader. Maybe they saw what happens when you rely on faction leaders, and how fragile that arrangement is. Maybe The Way of the Mandalore they're talking about is literal: every single one of them must effectively BE The Mandalore at all times. There is only One Way because "what would The Mandalore do" always has a right answer, even if it's not written anywhere. And we know for sure that The Mandalore would never remove their helmet. So they don't.
I view it as they don’t have a personal identity per say. They don’t take off their helmets and are working entirely for the benefit of the clan and the covert. Djin doesn’t take a break after getting all the beskar and doesn’t take anything for himself nor indulge in anything. All his work is for the covert. This not taking off the helmet unifies them under one goal as they are all mandalorian and working for each other. Nor do any of the mandalorians of the covert refer to each other by name even though they should know the names, as I think at a certain age they lose their identity and simply become “mandalorian”
@@dt8698 That all tracks, and I agree. It just seems plausible that there's an extra layer to that forsaking of identity. Any Mandalorian can become The Mandalore (through strength, which they all aspire to) which means all Mandalorians must conduct themselves as The Mandalore would.
“The Watch” being a splinter group of Death Watch wants to instill in there clan as well as all Mandalorians to give up there personal identity for being a Mandalorian as a whole. Like many individual cells make up the whole of the body. Remember Din expected Bo Karan to help him “...for the creed sake...” referring to the idea that when one stood against an enemy all stood. Or in simple terms; “you mess with one bean you mess with the whole burrito!”
The clan vs Mandalor identity thing kinda makes sense, reminds me of how in the US we fight like cats and dogs among ourselves... Then someone outside kicks the nest and sees the Muricans swarm lol.
I heard he wasn’t even on set for much of season 1 and mainly did voice work did to conflicts with his schedule. I wonder if that was one of the reasons for the helmet rule
Din jarin is the only one who doesn't remove his helmet... I bet the other children did when he wasn't there... He is being groomed as the next new Mandalorian leader. He will look badass with that armour and the Dark Saber!
I can't see anyone having any influence in his life except for the members of his clan. He is no one 'special' within his creed. You actually see some children within the covert and they all had helmets on.
@@darthbuzz1 Your right. But I like to guess. Bomatter what I wanna see him with thst dark saber as the mandalorian... with baby yoda as a mandalorian with a jetpack!
I am thinking that The Armorer is in possession of The Mask of Mandalore, according to the description according to wookipedia, there are too many similarities, some discrepancies, but Dave, and John, do add and subtract from legends, their fair artistic licence talents, fairly observant to the Star Wars lore out there, gathering from all gendres of media, mixing and matching a beautiful interpretation of this Galaxy Far Far Away from a Long Time Ago.
With Pre Visla’s son being a member of the Children of the Watch that ties the theory that they’re descendants or an offshoot of Death Watch even stronger.
I suspect that "The Watch" is a clan that has adopted other survivors of the Mandalorians along with expanding their numbers through adoptions. We've seen that in this clan a member earns their personal "badge" by defeating a tough enemy; it might actually be that the fellow wearing the Death Watch badge fought and killed a Death Watch member. I'm not insisting this is so though; I'm just suggesting it as a possibility.
Really wish people took books & graphic novels into account, as the split between the Death Watch & the True Mandalorians is covered in a book about Jango Fett & in the Republic Commando books. Jango was adopted by Jaster when the new splinter group called the Death Watch attacked the Fett Homestead looking for Jaster. Death Watch broke away from traditional Mando’a ethos & felt that ‘might makes right’- which is why other stories (until Clone Wars era) Death Watch are pretty much killed by anyone as soon as they’re known. When DW splintered further when Maul took them over, & later he sacrificed them, those that survived basically ‘hid their faces in shame’ (as many warrior cultures might) which in less than a generation became ‘the Way’ of their children...the Children of the Watch.
Songs of eons past tell of these events you refer to, this rejection of the Way of the Mandalor was paid for in exile to Concordia and in blood on the night of a thousand tears. We reject the creed at our own peril. Secrecy is our only choice, anonymity our only strength, the covert our only home. This is the Way.
In summation: he was raised by religious zealots since he was a child, and they were fanatics who took an ancient aspect of their culture and raised it to the next level.
@@GhostWatcher2024 Nah, Tali Zora Vas Normandy showed us how you drink alcohol through a helmet. ;) You just need an emergency induction port = straw. :D
It's amusing to me how much has been done to correct the mistakes made with the Mandalorians in TCW. We started with the New Mandalorian pacifists in that series, then we have Rebels bringing back the warrior culture to the very same people, and now the Children of the Watch seem to recall the ancient Mandalorians of Legends, what with recruiting outsiders and even aliens into their ranks
In my honest opinion some Mandalorians are more traditionalists than others. Some call themselves Mandolorians but are only in name. They do not follow the old ways. Also some clans have their own thing and different from the rest.
Those weren’t “mistakes.” That’s just how Mandalorian history played out. It’s interesting worldbuilding and served its purpose to create context for good stories.
I think people are trying to look to deep into this. Plain and simple, they are am offset of a group of Mandalorians that are religious zealots. Plain and simple, not complicated.
It is complicated though. Death Watch were murderous honorless savages. It’s strange to say the least that their splinter group would be super honorable.
I had previously thought that the helmet requirement was a distinction between creed and race. For example Bo Katan is Mandalorian by race, a being from the planet Mandalore. If she takes her helmet off, she is still Mandalorian. Din Djarin is a Founding, a Mandalorian by creed, not by birth. If he removes his helmet, one could argue he is no longer Mandalorian. I presume “The Children of the Watch” is a clan of Foundlings who were taken in by Death Watch, and as converts to the creed adhere to a much stricter code of conduct to prove their dedication.
Oh so like being Jewish is both a religion and an ethnicity. You can be born Jewish and be an atheist or you can not be ethnically Jewish but convert to the religion. I like that, it would be cool world building
I agree with this, but it also seems that this splinter group is not aware of this, so I don’t think it is 100% the case, but it makes sense to a certain degree.
@@trollzynisaacjohan1793 Jango trained clones with mandalorian philosophy and tactics etc but I don’t think he was a mandalorian. Din djarin was picked up by a splinter group of actual mandalorian so he is a mandalorian. Whether or not every clan of mandalorians would accept Dins group as mandalorians I think was answered in the latest episode. There is a derogatory term used for him and his group and that seems to imply that not all of them would. But the chick from the latest episode (can’t remember her name) seems to be accepting of him specifically. So I’m guessing we will get to see in the future how all of that works out.
So as he explained these Mandalorians follow 'the way' and keeping their armor on they took on the identity of the history and people of Mandalore, not themselves. They did everything for Mandalore not for themselves....Now, what's crazy is Biblically, Jesus Christ referred to following God as 'the way' and early Christian fathers did not call it 'Christianity' but called they called it 'the way'. As a follower of God what it meant to follow 'the way' was to rid yourself of your own 'way' (desires), and instead embody Gods word and law by following Gods way, not your own. Mind blow connection
And the Seventh Day Adventists here might be one crowd seen as 'fanatics' - and I'd bet they would have kept their helmets on had they had them. And yes, that would be me.
The Mandalorians that are/were on Nevarro in Series 1 were "The Tribe" one member being the Pas Vizla who's family line were members of Death Watch namely Tor Vizla and Pre Vizla...The memory sequence shows Mando as a child being rescued by Mandalorians bearing the death watch symbol and like armour...watch the episode again very closely and you will see.
Honestly, I love the lore towards Mandalorian's from the old Republic Era, no matter how much I played of those games, Mandalorian's story has always fascinated me, and I love hearing Canderous Ordo's stories of battle, it makes me wish we had a game going as far back as the Mandalorian war, I'd love to see a huge game in where we can play as either the Jedi or Mandalorians and get both sides of the story to a great galactic war, even if we know the outcome
This rule that the children of the watch have is most likely in honor of Canderous Ordo after he became Mandalore he never removed his helmet because it was a symbol that he was no longer his past self but the icon of his people and that it could only be removed upon his death. It was actually so important to his character in Kotor 2 that when he joins the party you cant remove his helmet. Dave Filoni likes to sneak bits of legends content into the new star wars cannon as a way to reintroduce it to the cannon.
My dads already annoyed that I was able to explain who Bo Katan was and who her sister was while watching the last episode. Now he’s gonna be super annoyed.
I like how one idea ties back to the Mask of Mandalore. I mean the children of the watch are also doing what Mandalore the Ultimate did when he opened the door to other species not just the Taung to become mandalorian. Leyeds is so rich and it looks the series is bringing all that back.
@@Behindthejab they didn’t, definitely respected him and realize he is the real deal, just think he is a religious lunatic is all. She literally told him that mandalorians are stronger together and that he should consider sticking with them.
It can be okay to have it both ways; helmet on or off. As a legends fan, I’ve never had a problem with Bo Katan and Sabine taking their helmets off. So, if Mando wants to keep his helmet on cause that’s his thing, that’s fine with me. And, if Pascal wants more face time without the helmet, I’m fine with that too. I’m sure it can be written in a way to show an evolution of Mando’s character. So long as they don’t do a Ruin Johnson fuk job with Mando I’ll be okay with it all.
I think that because of the purge, the Mandalorians (the Din Jarin types) are constantly in a state of readiness. Hiding, because to fight without the numbers they once had = death (and Mandalorians are known for surrendering...EVER). Death of the clans means the end of the whole Mandalorian race/culture. In the case of the Mandalorian series, the clans of Mandalorians are spars and scattered around the galaxy. Each clan leader is following/making up their own rules to suit their specific needs. From my understanding, it is only Mandalore that can unify the clans and they don't currently have him.
@@GuntherRommel no i don't think so Disney spends 12-15 million per episode so if they needed to they could extend the budget by a few more million with the fact Disney makes $420+ million off of Disney+ monthly. So the budget would not really matter much
I actually like the idea that Mandalorian clan(s) are dynamic from one another. It's kind of realistic when you think about it in terms of anthropology. A separated/dispersed people of the same fold will cling on to different traditions from their core people. Think of how different the surviving Celtic people were after the fall of Rome. Ireland was isolated, Scotland was screwed over and the Welsh were sacked by the Saxons. Completely different people after the Roman invasion.
I would say they are similar to the Jewish People. After a Failed Rebellion in 136AD the Jewish People's homeland was destroyed and they became a people in Exile. Now you have a bunch of different Jewish Groups. Think of the Extremely Traditional Ultra Orthodox vs the Secular Groups. The European Azkanazi vs Shepherdic.
To sum this up, the death watch survivors were inspired by the "True mandalorians" and revived the old warrior codex of the super commandos and added some codes from the ancient mamdolorian (pre ultimate) that dectates the covering of the face at all time for unification purposes.
I thought that since the Mandalorians take in foundlings from many different species - that always keeping your helmet on was a way to make everyone the same. That no matter what your species looked like - they would all look the same in their helmets. By accepting the Mandalorian ways and putting on the helmet - you discarded your previous connection with species or family and became one with the Mandalorian people. If no one ever takes their helmet off - then no one would ever know who was what species or family - only that they were all Mandalorians.
If I remember correctly the Mandalorian Crusaders had the rule to always wear one piece of armor. Maybe the Children of The Watch just chose this piece to be the helmet.
they remind me of the history of the knights Templar. in their origins they were 2 groups of Templars that merged and created the order known the most, being highly religious warriors.
I think a lot of the never removing your helmet thing is also practical. The group din is in are broken down into coverts. AKA something hidden if nobody sees each others face than simply changing the armor allows you to assume a different identity. It prevents anybody from knowing your true numbers. Worst case is drop your armor all together and you are totally anonymous.
@@darthbuzz1 I'm just assuming the way armor protection in Star Wars works the same in real life. Thick enough durasteel will stop a blaster bolt, but it deforms. Same way a thick enough steel plate will stop a .50 cal, but will deform. The shot it deflected wasn't a direct hit, more of a glancing blow.
Or...the writers pulled a Lucas and ignored/retconned previous storylines to suit their new ideas. As much as some fans hate Ryan Johnson, his "let the past die" line is at the very heart of Lucas Storytelling.
Of course there's historical precedent within Star Wars lore regarding helmets unable to be removed Darth Vader, anyone? The REAL reason is that it's just fucking cool
Personally I disagree, it seems to me like they haven't yet left battle, until they can rebuild and stop hiding they are still fighting the battle to restore their people so they don't take off their helmets
I thought at least part of the reason they don't remove their helmets is that, because they survived the purge and were forced to move, wearing their helmet was moreso to make it difficult to know how many Mandalorians are still around or where their covert is. They hinted at this when they said they couldn't be seen in public together, and when they said they were forced to move elsewhere once they came out together to help Mando in Ch 3.
Interesting analysis. The code of the Mandalore, the forms of the tradition without any basis in actual history. This is why I always refer to him as The Mandalorian. Mando is a nickname used by the locals, Din Djarin is the name of the child who was rescued by members of Death Watch. Neither of those names are proper or even respectful names for our hero. I'm looking forward to learning more about his specific sect, which was plenty popular in the covert on Navarro while it lasted. Not removing the helmet may have well been simply a self-preservation strategy. It certainly would have helped Pre Vizsla (was that?) when Darth Maul took the throne.
I think it is more of a "Call to Arms". Since the Great Purge, the Mandalorian people have joined together in total war, and this group sees the war as a war to the death, or total extermination of either themselves or their enemy, and neither thing has happened, yet This belief has not been accepted by all Mandalorians though, and I think the reason is that some of them see the war is over, now that the Empire and the Mandalorian home-world have both been wiped out from all appearances. Din Djarin may by traveling to the Living Waters under the mines of Mandalore, (Supposedly those mines no longer exist after Mandalore's fall.) may both redeem himself, and prove to all Mandalorians, that the war indeed continues, and is worth fighting. This is actually true since the Empire actually still exists, and the emperor himself has found a way to survive as well. The Mandalorians that are holding to "The Way", are showing they are still fighting to the death until the war is actually finished. Until the war is finished everything else comes second to the war effort. The helmets stay on. This is the way.
I love what’s being said here! But I like to think of the “Children of the Watch” as maybe the Mandalorian Special forces. The Mandalorian MIB! I know there’s no evidence for this but sacrificing one’s identity for a course sounds very much like an elite government role! It’s just an idea I like the sound of. 🤔
You keep using language like "incapable", it's not that they were "incapable" of removing their helmet, they could and did, otherwise they could not eat or drink. The word you should have been using is "allowed", they were not "allowed" to remove their helmet in front of others. I know it's a small thing, but it bugs me, you make it sound as if it was impossible to remove the helmet but it wasn't only possible but necessary.
Another theory I could see is that if you notice that maul’s character is extremely intelligent and had a deep respect for different warrior cultures and studies certain things he finds “interesting” Thoroughly so I can see during mauls rain he would have 100% encouraged his following to go back to the “old times” or become a warrior of the “old ways” wearing a helmet and never showing your face is “the way” of the mandalore
Watched this making sure it's valid info being passed on ...wished you touched more on certain things and less on others but yes the general info you're conveying is accurate!!! Very nice work !!
All the Mandalorians that Din Jarin grew up with are just punking him, it’s a long going prank they’re pulling on him, making him think he can’t take his helmet off. “Shit, he’s coming, everyone put your helmets back on!”
Lmaooo
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Dumbass foundling... (sips tea)
Awsome
This is definitely cannon
Imagine winning a mudhorn as a signet then slaying a krayt dragon.
omg XD
Mando: Can I... uh... get an update on this?
That's just asking for a phallic symbol for a crest
Imagine
You have to have killed it alone to get the Sigil I guess baby Yoda made it an exception when he was given the mission by the blacksmith.
I prefer the creed as portrayed in the Mandalorian. I like the mystery of the helmet. “Our secrecy is our strength. Our strength is our survival.” Mando is like the Lone Ranger, another noble masked man.
I agree; I just wish the armorer didn't lie to Din Djarin; it brings their Way into question where I really think it shouldn't be.
@@LoreStar I'm oppose to the idea that the children of the watch teachings are somehow "wrong because their different" it reveals a certain maturity to review old guidelines and alter them to suit the culture shifts at the current time.
Mandalorian got beaten back and are weak do to there current doctrine in the clone wars and then the Empire age, clearly a re-evaluation of methods was necessary for survival. That is evaluation at work.
ABSOLUTELY!! ❤
Fits well with the western vibe
The Children of the Watch got it right. Never remove your helmet on penalty of death and disgrace!
Has anyone thought that a mandalorian traditionally never removed their helmet in battle and that the children of the watch believe that as long as mandalore was not free then they in battle.
Nice theory!
that's actually.... logic o.O
Thats .. yes
That could be the way.....
By far coolest theory
Ah, so he's just part of the Amish of the Madalorians. Got it.
Yes. Most accurate summary possible 😂
Lmao
Ezekiel says: "this is the way" to raise a barn
😂🤣
Amishalorians.
I like the different sects, it makes more sense as a living culture that has spread through the galaxy. Like our own religions and cultures splinter, change, adapt as they spread, isolate, reintegrate, this gives it realism.
Except Mandalorians have proof of their beliefs, we on the other hand...
Yup
I absolutely agree, there should be lots of variation in Mando clans and tribes scattered throughout the galaxy. It makes sense that there would be some difference in style, traditions and beliefs.
@@topshelf2000 not necessarily... in this timeline the great purge was before his time so he’s still taking someone else’s word that any of this existed. That’s his faith. (The belief or conviction of things not seen kinda stuff)
@Law Dorherty coolies and shit lmao💀💀
Fiona - take off your helmet.
Shrek - I can't I have helmet hair.
This is the way. xD
@@J.Severin this is the way
Why is everyone obsessed with Shrek.
@@lightdreaming5286 shrek life
@@lightdreaming5286 shrek is love shrek is life
Interesting to note: Revan swore to never take off his helmet until he defeated the Mandalorians in the Jedi-Mandalorian war; or as he put it, "until there is peace." I know Revan was never a Mandalorian, but maybe there's a connection?
I like this!
There will be a greater connection we just have to wait and see.
I love anything to do with the EU mandalorians. I love this theory that the modern Mando want to honor the Mandalore by never removing their masks. Both Mandalore the indomitable and the Ultimate wore breathing tubes which means they hardly removed their helmets and as far as I know no Mandalore ever removed the mask.
The other more boring option here is as Lore Star notes in war they do not take off their helmets taking on the identity of the Mandalorian people, perhaps they still view that the Mandalorian people without a true home are in a perpetual war for survival, as evidently they are still being hunted by some factions
is it possible Revan's helmet was just stuck so he made an excuse up about never removing the helmet to hide his embarrassment?
I love how at the end of season 2 Mando was like: “frick the way, im takin this thing off for baby yoda”
Everything for the child!!!!!!!!!
now in the book of boba he has to go to mandalore in the mines so yeah he fricked himself
When Satine came to power in the clone wars and became pacifist, some mando's groups split off. One group stayed in Mandalore to become death watch while other groups just left the planet to continue the original mandalorian tradition. In my thinking children of the watch is this group that peacefully split off.
It makes more sense that they actually split from the death watch later on when it scattered first because of the name and second because the armorer was definitely part of Mauls elite guard during the clone wars since she has red armor with spikes in the helmet exactly like they are shown to use there.
They could even be Older than that.
Before Maul was in charge, we could say that was the "pre visla" era. And afterwards, the Post Visla era.
I'll get my coat...
XD
Is that dad humor?
@@christopherwieber783 Vader humour.
@@SymbioteMullet I frickin' love it!
@@SymbioteMullet Considering his “Don’t _choke_ on your aspirations” line in Rogue One, I think it’s fair to say they’re one and the same.
lmao i love how everyone agrees Satine's pacifist mandalorians sucked.
because they are not Mandalorians... they are ex-Mandalorians or pseudo-Mandalorians
Mandalorian by blood only.
@@LoreStar not even by blood. just by birth on the planet, the same way someone being from texas is referred to as 'texan' just cause they're born there. if they follow any semblance of what mandalorians actually are, there is no "by blood" anymore, the last Taung died ages ago. Satine's pacifist Mandalorians are basically just followers of Arasuum and likely would've been obliterated by their older counterparts. if they entirely scrap all of that history they'd be so stupid tbh. it's likely they'll make their own version of it but i do hope they at least use a lot of it and dont turn mandalorians into just "ay we're a race of humans from mandalore that exiled our warriors to concord" cause that'd be lame. i wanna hear some dxun mentions and a lot of exploration of old history. din should know of it considering the group he's from.
Even though she was pacifist, everybody else in her administration were either secretly deathwatch or corrupt criminals.
I cant disagree with this comment, though I do maintain that I liked Satine herself as well as her nephew and the other cadets.
It makes sense to me about the helmet rule, if you're going to go back to the ancient ways and given that we know that the ancient ways involves adopting other members of different species into their culture the helmet rule makes a lot of sense given that you get rid of basically xenophobia or racism along species lines and that none of them can take off their helmets so nobody knows that hey that guy is a different alien from me and thus more or less that puts a lid on infighting due to those reasons. Along with the fact that it appears they denounce their own names, given that Din states in chapter 8 that he hasn't heard his name since he was a child, thus further adding to the stripping of identity to become Mandalorian.
Instead, regardless of specie, they're all Mandalorian now that they've adopted The Creed, and I really like that.
So you're saying that if we all wear helmets at all times Disney can quit clubbing us over the head with their woke bs? I'm in.
@@joshuaosborne1968 lmao
@@joshuaosborne1968 HAHAHA
I’d say that’s a cool concept about not knowing other species but they still have to talk to each other and it’s a fact that some species in star wars just don’t speak english, so depending on where they are from or how exclusive their language is to certain parts of the galaxy it would be easy to tell what species certain Mandos would be.
I think it's more about preventing factionalism by being in a constant state of war as they used to don their helmets and leave squabbles behind.
It's a very symbolic, ritualistic way of enforcing unity within their ranks which likely got introduced by an earlier generation of the Children when they all came from warring clans. And it was never renounced after they became scattered refugees. They just retreated further into honor code and ritual when facing persecution.
Which makes them a perfect foil for the pragmatic, power-oriented nationalist liberation struggle of Bo-Katan who grew up in a maelstrom of warring factions, changing allegiances and the ever-alluring grand gesture of uniting the clans of Mandalore under the Darksaber.
3 weeks later he removes his helmet and shows everyone
Boba Fett and the Nite Owls have been a bad influence on him.
It's likely because he valued the foundling more than wearing his helmet. So at least he had a valid reason for taking off his helmet. In the moment he found it more honorable to take off his helmet.
@@officialchannel6622 Yh and thank you so much for responding
When any children of the watch figures out he took off his helmet: "You're not Mandalorian!"
well, ha did it to keep livig
It's because of the smell. Guy gets into some sweaty situations, take that helmet off and you'll knock out the whole room!
Right? The infections alone should kill him...
The smell kills bacteria
I've always believed that the Children of the Watch never removed their helmets because of the dishonor brought upon them by the Mandalorians who joined Maul as well as those who conspired with the Empire.
I believe it is just a quirk of this particular group... a symbolic unifying thing like vow of silence or shaved head in some monastic orders in Christianity and Buddhism. They could have just as well have a ritual tattoo or something like that.
@@lamebubblesflysohigh It could be both, it might serve the purpose you speak of but might also have its origin as what original commenter said or alternatively it may be symbolic in the sense that they will not remove their helmet until they have endured their struggle. Whether it be to reestablish themselves and reach their former strength and not have to hide their numbers/organization or something else entirely. From the looks of it though it seems that this tradition is permanent and will not end due to such a scenario so regardless it has probably become symbolic like you said. Revan also vowed to never remove his helmet in a similar manner.
Yeah, I think that's probably true. If these belong to the group that collaborated with Maul, then they've lost everything; their planet, their families, their honor. Basically all that's left of their identity as Mandalorians is their armor. That tradition might have started as a vow to never take the helmets off until Mandalore was reclaimed and their honor restored - so when that became unattainable, the helmets stayed on.
@@lamebubblesflysohigh Exactly. Best answer!
I’ve always assumed that it was to keep the clan safe. If someone took off their helmets and they found where the other mandalorians are that could be trouble
Also, the spikes in the armourer's helmet suggests she may have been part of the group of mandalorians controlled by Maul
I like this theory. Hopefully season 3 gives us the sauce 😂🙏
I can tell the creators of the Mandalorian are definitely Knights of the old republic fans, especially after I saw the sand people grab the. Krayt dragon pearl.
Star Wars galaxies... Nice try tho
@@peeonu25 The Krayt dragon was in KOTOR.
You could actually get two pearls in the game, if you betrayed Komad Fortuna.
The pearls could then be used to modify your lightsaber to greatly increase it’s damage.
Galaxies and KOTOR were released a month apart in 2003.
The mines underneath and the bantha luring was pretty obvious too!
@@masterdarthchief Yeah that was pretty awesome of them.
@@solokesselrun1619 😆!! I always kill him, even when I'm on the light side, cant help it.
What actually brought me to love the Mando's so much is Karen Traviss Republic Commando book series.
Never got anything close to the deepness in which she explored the Mandalorian culture, language, and way of life.
Oya.
This. Traviss books are great. Also her books in the Legacy series where Boba Fett played a huge part even further developing the mandalorian lore. Traviss is the OG mandalorian nerd and the current canon lore is clearly very much based on her writing.
Mandalorian are just the Star Wars version of Spartans, kind of ironic they would also suffer from the issue with numbers/population.
I imagine them more as Vikings
Yeah Vikings to me seem more accurate honestly space Vikings with the whole Viking code thing. I could totally see mandos being space Vikings
@@Josh-nd6jj Vikings didn't have a code, Vikings were murderers and thieves whom slaughtered innocents and burned villages. The Norse also didn't necessarily have a code of honor, there were different forms of Paganism which were followed in different Norse countries. The Mando's are Spartans, their armor is the equivalent of a Spartan's shield and spear, if you were a spartan and you lost your kit, you were disgraced, and outcast. Also the Mandalorian code of honor was very similar too most spartan philosophies at the time.
@@Josh-nd6jj more like a mixture of the two.
Or maybe the KKK
I just love how believable it is that a group of people that went through this much has such different ideas.
You could say Canderous himself is who the Children of the Watch are trying to emulate. When Canderous became Mandalore the Redeemer, he didn't take off his helmet and began to rebuild the clans after the Mandalorian Wars and returned them to honor and glory in not only the eyes of the Mandalorian People, but redeemed them in the eyes of the galaxy by becoming the heroes that were needed to battle the Sith when the Jedi were virtually wiped out. Think about it, post-Endor is a lot like KOTOR 2.
I thought Canderous couldn’t remove it because, like Vader, he was badly injured and needed it to survive?
@@KaoretheHalfDemon nah, Daddy Canderous is too bad ass to be hurt like that
Canderous was Mandalore the Preserver, but yeah, you got everything else right
He was hiding his true identity, that is why he didn't take off the helmet
Only a select few knew the identity of the new Mandalore, as he never took off his armor and helmet in the presence of others, not even while sleeping, according to rumors
I wonder if Mando's armor is blank with no color scheme due to him not having any clan affiliation. I think that would be something interesting the show could bring up. Maybe he'll eventually form his own clan and paint his armor or join another clan. Assuming there are different clans among the Children of the Watch.
his first armor had plenty of colors. He just didn't have time or desire to paint it for now
I thought his scheme was red
He is literally head of his Own clan. A clan of Two. Clan Mudhorn
He's a knight on a quest. So the polished look is symbolic and makes sense.
He actually has his own clan, Clan Mudhorn, that's what the insignia on his pauldron represents.
Hot Take: The Mandalor is secretly the Dread Pirate Roberts.
I would argue that there might have been some precedent for Mandalorians forsaking the removal of their helmets between the KOTOR II era and the Clone Wars, in order to emulate and honor Mandalore the Preserver, who was physically unable to remove his helmet. Mandalore the Preserver (formerly Canderous Ordo) had a cybernetic life support system integrated into his armor, which prevented him from removing his armor or helmet, similar to Darth Vader.
Din's way of the Mando seems very strict but not necessarily bloodthirsty. All of din actions are ment to build towards something that will last. Beskar for foundlings! Protection of the covert and it's secrets! Even refusing revenge against their enemy's (the Empire) and choosing to at least co-exist!
Don't forget the only reason Din is helping baby Yoda is because of his code. The child is not some strong proven Warrior, it's helpless 80% of the time. So Din's (basterd version as you call it😡) is possibly the most effective peaceful mandalorian teaching we have seen without becoming full pacifist. Needless to say I'm a fan.
Bo-katan seems to be trying to recapture her lost control over her people she even bends the agreement when din agreed to help her and that was just one Job. Not cool. Justify if you want I feel Din is moving on to other pursuits by ironically looking way further into the past then Bo-katan has chosen.
This is the way
How did he think they were going to get weapons off the ship.
This is the way
@@mrillis9259 flying?
@@mrillis9259 Air drops into the sea. recovery for later? I don't know
Look up the True Mandalorians, and the Journeymen Protectors.
This seems like any religion, when they take a major loss. Some feel that they wouldn't have lost, if only if they had been more faithful. Therefore they tend to become more extreme than less or are drawn to the more extreme factions. The comments made during episode 11 makes me think that this is one of those factions.
Maybe the "Children Of The Watch" believe that their sect is the true spiritual progeny of The Mandalore, and as such, they are already "One with The Mandalore", and must remain helmeted as he did.
That's why he is the best
I like that! I love anything to do with the EU mandalorians. I love this theory that the modern Mando want to honor the Mandalore by never removing their masks. Both Mandalore the indomitable and the Ultimate wore breathing tubes which means they hardly removed their helmets and as far as I know no Mandalore ever removed the mask.
If you are going to create a new belief system (or restore an old one) you start with children and only allow them to know your own doctrine.
Din doesn't know anything of the mainstream mandalorian culture he and all other children of the watch have been shielded from it because it contradicts "the way" .
It only takes a few generations for lies to become truth, just look at North Korea.
It was pretty much the premise of the film "city of ember"
"Hey, let's play a joke on that new kid, tell him -get this, tell him right, tell him we never take our helmets off - we'll get everyone in on it, it'll be great. Oh shit, while we're at it, let's tell him he has to find all the metal for his suit, just make sure no one shows him that massive armoury full of the stuff."
Plot Twist: They wear helmets so people don’t smell their terrible breath
They must keep their helmet on so that everyone looks the same, thus unity. Doesn't matter what alien you are, you are a Mandalorian in the helmet.
I love kotor so much long live Revan make a tv show or movie already
im just up for a remake or a remaster honestly.
At least name drop Revan in season 2 would be dope
@@ckennedy1973 At the very least
I've seen a few pics of Keanu Reeves digitally edited to be Revan, that would be cool.
You don't know what you asking for. There's a high chance they would retcon the story so it would fit into stupid writing of SWOTOR. and make Revan a bitch.
“The Armorer keeps the lore and creed of the Covert” 👍👍
“So she’s a nun?” 😒😧
You sayin she's "untouched" 👀😏
@@Dahlia2B
Well, the Storm Troopers certainly couldn't lay a finger on her.
She wishes, nuns are mean!
@@edkruzel they beat the shit outta my grandpa.
@@BaneRain 8yrs of catholic school in the early 70's. I've got plenty of stories.
Something that really sticks out to me is the call-and-response nature of "this is the way". Somebody will say something Very Mandalorian, invoke the phrase, and then it's up to the other Mandalorians to decide whether or not they agree. It doesn't appear to be mandatory to always echo "this is the way" when the first person to say it has done so about a dishonorable act.
Further, it doesn't sound like anyone is quoting a set, written list of rules when they reference The Way. Their phrasing is looser, or super situation-specific. Every Mandalorian must *decide* whether something is in accordance with The Way of the Mandalore moment-to-moment. It seems very democratic, and a way of highlighting when someone is thinking out-of-sync with the group.
The Armorer didn't seem to be an official calling-the-shots leader. Maybe they saw what happens when you rely on faction leaders, and how fragile that arrangement is. Maybe The Way of the Mandalore they're talking about is literal: every single one of them must effectively BE The Mandalore at all times. There is only One Way because "what would The Mandalore do" always has a right answer, even if it's not written anywhere.
And we know for sure that The Mandalore would never remove their helmet. So they don't.
I view it as they don’t have a personal identity per say. They don’t take off their helmets and are working entirely for the benefit of the clan and the covert. Djin doesn’t take a break after getting all the beskar and doesn’t take anything for himself nor indulge in anything. All his work is for the covert. This not taking off the helmet unifies them under one goal as they are all mandalorian and working for each other. Nor do any of the mandalorians of the covert refer to each other by name even though they should know the names, as I think at a certain age they lose their identity and simply become “mandalorian”
@@dt8698 That all tracks, and I agree. It just seems plausible that there's an extra layer to that forsaking of identity. Any Mandalorian can become The Mandalore (through strength, which they all aspire to) which means all Mandalorians must conduct themselves as The Mandalore would.
Who’s here after the newest episode when he finally allowed someone to see his face.
We had seen his face before in season 1
Same happens one episode after that too
WHOS HERE AFTER MEH MEH MEH MEH BLAH BLAH. Get creative.
DONT SPOIL THE SERIES
@@Gr3mlin6 bruh both season are done now so you had plenty of time to see the episodes
“The Watch” being a splinter group of Death Watch wants to instill in there clan as well as all Mandalorians to give up there personal identity for being a Mandalorian as a whole. Like many individual cells make up the whole of the body.
Remember Din expected Bo Karan to help him “...for the creed sake...” referring to the idea that when one stood against an enemy all stood. Or in simple terms; “you mess with one bean you mess with the whole burrito!”
Simple: his Creed says "Hey no dude, that's not allowed"
Plot twist. He removes his helmet and Vader's helmet is under it.
THAT is the way.
Erb reference?
You sure that could fit under there 😳
@@sahameesalami3737 with force and the force, all things are possible.
🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂😝😝
The clan vs Mandalor identity thing kinda makes sense, reminds me of how in the US we fight like cats and dogs among ourselves... Then someone outside kicks the nest and sees the Muricans swarm lol.
The real reason: to disappoint Pascal.
I heard he wasn’t even on set for much of season 1 and mainly did voice work did to conflicts with his schedule. I wonder if that was one of the reasons for the helmet rule
@@doman1ck he didnt need 2 be in set since he does the voice
Maximus? What are you doing here?
Din jarin is the only one who doesn't remove his helmet... I bet the other children did when he wasn't there... He is being groomed as the next new Mandalorian leader. He will look badass with that armour and the Dark Saber!
That would be awesome I honestly hope you’re right lol
I can't see anyone having any influence in his life except for the members of his clan. He is no one 'special' within his creed.
You actually see some children within the covert and they all had helmets on.
@@darthbuzz1
Your right. But I like to guess. Bomatter what I wanna see him with thst dark saber as the mandalorian... with baby yoda as a mandalorian with a jetpack!
True Mandalorian are real mandalorians.... The step-grandfather of boba Fett was the leader of the True Mandalorian.
I am thinking that The Armorer is in possession of The Mask of Mandalore, according to the description according to wookipedia, there are too many similarities, some discrepancies, but Dave, and John, do add and subtract from legends, their fair artistic licence talents, fairly observant to the Star Wars lore out there, gathering from all gendres of media, mixing and matching a beautiful interpretation of this Galaxy Far Far Away from a Long Time Ago.
With Pre Visla’s son being a member of the Children of the Watch that ties the theory that they’re descendants or an offshoot of Death Watch even stronger.
Paz vizsla? Is his son or just related
After looking into it more I guess he’s not officially Pre’s son but I think that’s what they’re alluding to.
I suspect that "The Watch" is a clan that has adopted other survivors of the Mandalorians along with expanding their numbers through adoptions. We've seen that in this clan a member earns their personal "badge" by defeating a tough enemy; it might actually be that the fellow wearing the Death Watch badge fought and killed a Death Watch member. I'm not insisting this is so though; I'm just suggesting it as a possibility.
Does anyone else feel like this guy keeps talking about the same stuff over and over again
Mandalorian history and culture? How dare he?!?
@@mikeynada2231 you arent clever or smart sounding...just another clown.
@@autopartsmonkey7992 you're super edgy and not smart you're just another clown.
Welcome to RUclips.
@@autopartsmonkey7992 I’m clever or smart enough for you to feel compelled to try to put me down ya clown :D
Really wish people took books & graphic novels into account, as the split between the Death Watch & the True Mandalorians is covered in a book about Jango Fett & in the Republic Commando books. Jango was adopted by Jaster when the new splinter group called the Death Watch attacked the Fett Homestead looking for Jaster. Death Watch broke away from traditional Mando’a ethos & felt that ‘might makes right’- which is why other stories (until Clone Wars era) Death Watch are pretty much killed by anyone as soon as they’re known. When DW splintered further when Maul took them over, & later he sacrificed them, those that survived basically ‘hid their faces in shame’ (as many warrior cultures might) which in less than a generation became ‘the Way’ of their children...the Children of the Watch.
Songs of eons past tell of these events you refer to, this rejection of the Way of the Mandalor was paid for in exile to Concordia and in blood on the night of a thousand tears. We reject the creed at our own peril. Secrecy is our only choice, anonymity our only strength, the covert our only home.
This is the Way.
Wear the armor
Speak the language
Support the clan
Rally when called
Defend your children
And raise them as Mandalorians!
In summation: he was raised by religious zealots since he was a child, and they were fanatics who took an ancient aspect of their culture and raised it to the next level.
I took a shot every time you said “Mandalore”. I died five minutes into the video.
For Mandalore!
This is the way!
Someone: what happens if someone takes your helmet off?
Mandalorian: You can't put it back on again.
In that case armor wearing mandalorians got to stink. And eat soup through a straw.
@@michaelpettersson4919 Emergency Induction Port. ;)
@@GhostWatcher2024 Nah, Tali Zora Vas Normandy showed us how you drink alcohol through a helmet. ;) You just need an emergency induction port = straw. :D
@@michaelpettersson4919 no; you just don't plan on getting caught with helmet off!
"have you ever removed your helment?"
Me: Yes
"why??"
Me: to eat and drink?
There was also a "Death Watch" group and bunker in Star Wars Galaxies. On Endor.
It's amusing to me how much has been done to correct the mistakes made with the Mandalorians in TCW.
We started with the New Mandalorian pacifists in that series, then we have Rebels bringing back the warrior culture to the very same people, and now the Children of the Watch seem to recall the ancient Mandalorians of Legends, what with recruiting outsiders and even aliens into their ranks
In my honest opinion some Mandalorians are more traditionalists than others. Some call themselves Mandolorians but are only in name. They do not follow the old ways. Also some clans have their own thing and different from the rest.
"Even aliens" the original Mandalorians weren't even human hence the visor design
Those weren’t “mistakes.” That’s just how Mandalorian history played out. It’s interesting worldbuilding and served its purpose to create context for good stories.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged mistakes
George wanted Mandalorians to be pacifists and Death Watch unified army... he wasn't beholden to EU ideas of Mandalorians, it wasn't a mistake
I think people are trying to look to deep into this. Plain and simple, they are am offset of a group of Mandalorians that are religious zealots. Plain and simple, not complicated.
Gotta youtube
Next video, why jedis wear robes instead of the borat one piece
It is complicated though. Death Watch were murderous honorless savages. It’s strange to say the least that their splinter group would be super honorable.
@@Michael_MW there is no reason to belive the children of the watch are even a splinter group, they could just be their own thing
I had previously thought that the helmet requirement was a distinction between creed and race. For example Bo Katan is Mandalorian by race, a being from the planet Mandalore. If she takes her helmet off, she is still Mandalorian. Din Djarin is a Founding, a Mandalorian by creed, not by birth. If he removes his helmet, one could argue he is no longer Mandalorian.
I presume “The Children of the Watch” is a clan of Foundlings who were taken in by Death Watch, and as converts to the creed adhere to a much stricter code of conduct to prove their dedication.
Oh so like being Jewish is both a religion and an ethnicity. You can be born Jewish and be an atheist or you can not be ethnically Jewish but convert to the religion.
I like that, it would be cool world building
I agree with this, but it also seems that this splinter group is not aware of this, so I don’t think it is 100% the case, but it makes sense to a certain degree.
With that logic. Jango is a mandalorian.
Dude was born on concord dawn.
@@trollzynisaacjohan1793 Jango trained clones with mandalorian philosophy and tactics etc but I don’t think he was a mandalorian. Din djarin was picked up by a splinter group of actual mandalorian so he is a mandalorian. Whether or not every clan of mandalorians would accept Dins group as mandalorians I think was answered in the latest episode. There is a derogatory term used for him and his group and that seems to imply that not all of them would. But the chick from the latest episode (can’t remember her name) seems to be accepting of him specifically. So I’m guessing we will get to see in the future how all of that works out.
Humm sub membership association.... Interesting theory
So as he explained these Mandalorians follow 'the way' and keeping their armor on they took on the identity of the history and people of Mandalore, not themselves. They did everything for Mandalore not for themselves....Now, what's crazy is Biblically, Jesus Christ referred to following God as 'the way' and early Christian fathers did not call it 'Christianity' but called they called it 'the way'. As a follower of God what it meant to follow 'the way' was to rid yourself of your own 'way' (desires), and instead embody Gods word and law by following Gods way, not your own. Mind blow connection
And the Seventh Day Adventists here might be one crowd seen as 'fanatics' - and I'd bet they would have kept their helmets on had they had them. And yes, that would be me.
The Mandalorians that are/were on Nevarro in Series 1 were "The Tribe" one member being the Pas Vizla who's family line were members of Death Watch namely Tor Vizla and Pre Vizla...The memory sequence shows Mando as a child being rescued by Mandalorians bearing the death watch symbol and like armour...watch the episode again very closely and you will see.
Honestly, I love the lore towards Mandalorian's from the old Republic Era, no matter how much I played of those games, Mandalorian's story has always fascinated me, and I love hearing Canderous Ordo's stories of battle, it makes me wish we had a game going as far back as the Mandalorian war, I'd love to see a huge game in where we can play as either the Jedi or Mandalorians and get both sides of the story to a great galactic war, even if we know the outcome
This rule that the children of the watch have is most likely in honor of Canderous Ordo after he became Mandalore he never removed his helmet because it was a symbol that he was no longer his past self but the icon of his people and that it could only be removed upon his death. It was actually so important to his character in Kotor 2 that when he joins the party you cant remove his helmet. Dave Filoni likes to sneak bits of legends content into the new star wars cannon as a way to reintroduce it to the cannon.
My dads already annoyed that I was able to explain who Bo Katan was and who her sister was while watching the last episode.
Now he’s gonna be super annoyed.
"This is the code" sounds like someone looking for a discount. "This is the way" is far catchier.
I like how one idea ties back to the Mask of Mandalore.
I mean the children of the watch are also doing what Mandalore the Ultimate did when he opened the door to other species not just the Taung to become mandalorian.
Leyeds is so rich and it looks the series is bringing all that back.
Bo Katan: "dont kill the cultist, dont kill the cultist"
Isn't the helmet thing just because mandalorians can be different species not just humans.
NO
No it is because of a splinter group of mandalorians
No, it's just to be stupid. I am so happy the real Mandalorians treated him like a poor special needs kid
@@Behindthejab they didn’t, definitely respected him and realize he is the real deal, just think he is a religious lunatic is all. She literally told him that mandalorians are stronger together and that he should consider sticking with them.
@@jessegimenez8175 yeah to deprogram the garbage out of his head.
It can be okay to have it both ways; helmet on or off. As a legends fan, I’ve never had a problem with Bo Katan and Sabine taking their helmets off. So, if Mando wants to keep his helmet on cause that’s his thing, that’s fine with me. And, if Pascal wants more face time without the helmet, I’m fine with that too. I’m sure it can be written in a way to show an evolution of Mando’s character. So long as they don’t do a Ruin Johnson fuk job with Mando I’ll be okay with it all.
I think that because of the purge, the Mandalorians (the Din Jarin types) are constantly in a state of readiness. Hiding, because to fight without the numbers they once had = death (and Mandalorians are known for surrendering...EVER). Death of the clans means the end of the whole Mandalorian race/culture. In the case of the Mandalorian series, the clans of Mandalorians are spars and scattered around the galaxy. Each clan leader is following/making up their own rules to suit their specific needs. From my understanding, it is only Mandalore that can unify the clans and they don't currently have him.
Great job dragging it out
Save you 15 minutes: watch episode 03. Done.
Haha
But that’s also adding 45 minutes of the show
@@lucaschung9284 it's only 20 minutes. Number 3 was a short one aaaaaaaand....
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I'm pretty sure chapter 11 was so short was because those special effects had to be really expensive.
@@GuntherRommel no i don't think so Disney spends 12-15 million per episode so if they needed to they could extend the budget by a few more million with the fact Disney makes $420+ million off of Disney+ monthly. So the budget would not really matter much
I'm loving the Mandalorian more and more!
I actually like the idea that Mandalorian clan(s) are dynamic from one another. It's kind of realistic when you think about it in terms of anthropology. A separated/dispersed people of the same fold will cling on to different traditions from their core people. Think of how different the surviving Celtic people were after the fall of Rome. Ireland was isolated, Scotland was screwed over and the Welsh were sacked by the Saxons. Completely different people after the Roman invasion.
Agreed. Without a Mandalore to guide them the various clans would split up and develop their own interpretations of The Code specific to that clan.
I would say they are similar to the Jewish People. After a Failed Rebellion in 136AD the Jewish People's homeland was destroyed and they became a people in Exile. Now you have a bunch of different Jewish Groups. Think of the Extremely Traditional Ultra Orthodox vs the Secular Groups. The European Azkanazi vs Shepherdic.
"Hey, why can't you take your helmet off"? "Superglue prank back in bootcamp"!!
To sum this up, the death watch survivors were inspired by the "True mandalorians" and revived the old warrior codex of the super commandos and added some codes from the ancient mamdolorian (pre ultimate) that dectates the covering of the face at all time for unification purposes.
I mean.. I'm ugly.. I'd be perfect as a mandalorian
I thought that since the Mandalorians take in foundlings from many different species - that always keeping your helmet on was a way to make everyone the same. That no matter what your species looked like - they would all look the same in their helmets. By accepting the Mandalorian ways and putting on the helmet - you discarded your previous connection with species or family and became one with the Mandalorian people. If no one ever takes their helmet off - then no one would ever know who was what species or family - only that they were all Mandalorians.
Not disagreeing, in legends the mandolorians were an alien race at first.
If I remember correctly the Mandalorian Crusaders had the rule to always wear one piece of armor. Maybe the Children of The Watch just chose this piece to be the helmet.
Your not wrong
@@AndreNitroX you’re*
they remind me of the history of the knights Templar. in their origins they were 2 groups of Templars that merged and created the order known the most, being highly religious warriors.
I think a lot of the never removing your helmet thing is also practical. The group din is in are broken down into coverts. AKA something hidden if nobody sees each others face than simply changing the armor allows you to assume a different identity. It prevents anybody from knowing your true numbers. Worst case is drop your armor all together and you are totally anonymous.
It prevents you from brushing your teeth
This is not the Way, u are not of Mandalore. You will hand over our armour or i will take it from you!
This is the way.
So badass when says that
I could’ve sworn they mentioned that it was expressly until mandalore had been liberated that they would not remove their helmets.
Their Armor is the only metal in the whole universe to reflect Lightsaber attack and Laser fire..
Not true. Cortosis and Phrick are also known to repel energy attacks.
didn't vader's durasteel armor stop solo's blast in ESB?
@@adityabhalekar3506 It has an impressive though limited resistance.
Boba Fett's armour was supposed to be durasteel and that deflected blaster bolts in The Mandalorian.
@@darthbuzz1 I'm just assuming the way armor protection in Star Wars works the same in real life. Thick enough durasteel will stop a blaster bolt, but it deforms. Same way a thick enough steel plate will stop a .50 cal, but will deform. The shot it deflected wasn't a direct hit, more of a glancing blow.
He's forbidden from removing his helmet because he's such a hunk
Or...the writers pulled a Lucas and ignored/retconned previous storylines to suit their new ideas.
As much as some fans hate Ryan Johnson, his "let the past die" line is at the very heart of Lucas Storytelling.
Of course there's historical precedent within Star Wars lore regarding helmets unable to be removed
Darth Vader, anyone?
The REAL reason is that it's just fucking cool
it's not cool, it's silly. I am happy the Mandalorians made fun of him for it
Personally I disagree, it seems to me like they haven't yet left battle, until they can rebuild and stop hiding they are still fighting the battle to restore their people so they don't take off their helmets
He's the Masterchief from the SWU.(star wars universe)
I thought they could remove it but just couldn’t let anyone see
I thought at least part of the reason they don't remove their helmets is that, because they survived the purge and were forced to move, wearing their helmet was moreso to make it difficult to know how many Mandalorians are still around or where their covert is. They hinted at this when they said they couldn't be seen in public together, and when they said they were forced to move elsewhere once they came out together to help Mando in Ch 3.
I feel like im taking a Social Studies lesson
This feels like history class. Love it
You are
He can remove the helmet if he is alone or no living thing is around we see him remove it himself when he is about to eat
He must get hungry....
@@SkullLeader Maybe he can jam a snickers up under the helmet if he starts acting like a Queen... ;)
@@JokerInk-CustomBuilds “you’re not you when you’re hungry”
Indeed or he could not eat or wash his face XD, the rule is to not remove it in presence of others.
The Mandalorians could go out in public without their helmet or the entire armor for that matter.
In that case, they would be undercover.
ha ha ha. This was a good one.
Frrrrrr
Interesting analysis.
The code of the Mandalore, the forms of the tradition without any basis in actual history.
This is why I always refer to him as The Mandalorian.
Mando is a nickname used by the locals, Din Djarin is the name of the child who was rescued by members of Death Watch. Neither of those names are proper or even respectful names for our hero.
I'm looking forward to learning more about his specific sect, which was plenty popular in the covert on Navarro while it lasted. Not removing the helmet may have well been simply a self-preservation strategy. It certainly would have helped Pre Vizsla (was that?) when Darth Maul took the throne.
I think it is more of a "Call to Arms". Since the Great Purge, the Mandalorian people have joined together in total war, and this group sees the war as a war to the death, or total extermination of either themselves or their enemy, and neither thing has happened, yet This belief has not been accepted by all Mandalorians though, and I think the reason is that some of them see the war is over, now that the Empire and the Mandalorian home-world have both been wiped out from all appearances. Din Djarin may by traveling to the Living Waters under the mines of Mandalore, (Supposedly those mines no longer exist after Mandalore's fall.) may both redeem himself, and prove to all Mandalorians, that the war indeed continues, and is worth fighting. This is actually true since the Empire actually still exists, and the emperor himself has found a way to survive as well. The Mandalorians that are holding to "The Way", are showing they are still fighting to the death until the war is actually finished. Until the war is finished everything else comes second to the war effort. The helmets stay on. This is the way.
The real reason mando can't remove his helmet is for casting reasons. Pretty easy to replace the actor if you never see his face.
You’re joking, right?
That's what I thought as well
That's exactly what I was thinking also its not a crazy idea
But Pedro Pascal is such a cutie pie
@@Dezzyyy no. Pedro Pascal isn't mostly available for shooting
Actually, they probably did this for the audience watching to keep everyone straight
I love what’s being said here! But I like to think of the “Children of the Watch” as maybe the Mandalorian Special forces. The Mandalorian MIB! I know there’s no evidence for this but sacrificing one’s identity for a course sounds very much like an elite government role! It’s just an idea I like the sound of. 🤔
Mandalorian Intelligence Bureau:
We know where you hide the Beskar.
“After the death of Pre Vizsla”
You... you mean it was post Vizsla then?
Thank you for this video, and sorry for being harsh in past criticism on the older video.
so like who gonna tell em about Fridays episode👀
In reality, it's because Pedro Pascal phones in his performance from a recording booth and it's cheaper to have him off camera.
No, he just doesn’t want his faces to get get crushed again.
You keep using language like "incapable", it's not that they were "incapable" of removing their helmet, they could and did, otherwise they could not eat or drink. The word you should have been using is "allowed", they were not "allowed" to remove their helmet in front of others. I know it's a small thing, but it bugs me, you make it sound as if it was impossible to remove the helmet but it wasn't only possible but necessary.
How about “not permitted!”...??
@@lordbyron3603 Not permitted in public...
Another theory I could see is that if you notice that maul’s character is extremely intelligent and had a deep respect for different warrior cultures and studies certain things he finds “interesting” Thoroughly so I can see during mauls rain he would have 100% encouraged his following to go back to the “old times” or become a warrior of the “old ways” wearing a helmet and never showing your face is “the way” of the mandalore
Watched this making sure it's valid info being passed on ...wished you touched more on certain things and less on others but yes the general info you're conveying is accurate!!! Very nice work !!