i dont think lulu even knew what doubledick was talking about. unless there was something they edited out. this game for whatever reason brings out the worst in people. at this point i think the community is too far gone
@@fortnitegamer76 It's been like this from the beginning ~15 yrs ago. Any game that depends on teamwork of random online strangers can and will be toxic.
He got mad that he hit the minions because his wave will push now that lulu had damaged the minions so he was forced to stay if he didn’t wanna miss a wave of xp it also messed up his tempo and made him lose a wave because he got a late back timing!
Hi, can someone explain what was the mistake lulu made when started to hit the minions under tower? If the ally wave was already crashing I thought it should be fine. Don't really know about that tbh
if lulu didnt touch wave then it would 100% slow push/bounce towards doublelift and hed be able to collect almost all of it. once she damages it the wave will probably stay neutral instead, and it's guaranteed that at least a few more minions will die when he gets back. doublelift was already basing cuz it's cannon wave, and staying to push it he'll lose all of the next wave which happens. also jhin waveclear is pretty good + can stop their bases with luck which would be even worse
If the enemy wave is crashing under tower and you do nothing, it will start to push back, giving you a freeze. But since jhin was comming back to lane fast enough anyway i dont know what that would have changed here. The main thing is that Lulu is not recallng and giving up tempo
It's just wave management, if he didn't touch it, Dlift would lose nothing maybe 1 minion and the wave would bounce back near the tower, because he touched it, he makes it much easier to crash the next wave, (which is what happened) losing Dlift gold and xp. Wave management is pretty hard to understand at first but it's very crucial at a high level. And in challenger, the Lulu should definitely understand this already.
aside from everything else that people have already mentioned, when you're playing support and your adc is basing, in absolutely no world is that a green light to start farming... that is some bronze level shit. You stick with your adc to maintain tempo unless you are roaming/warding. Ain't no fuckin way a serious support in master/challenger unironically thinks it's a good idea to stick around solo, pushed all the way into the enemy turret. That is just straight up griefing.
The remaining 3 minions were enough to secure a slow push back to red side. Dlift would be back to lane to catch the bounce back with minimal losses. Instead, Lulu touching the wave damaged the minions which means when the red side cannon wave meets that damaged blue side cannon wave, then some of those minions will die prematurely without Dlift being back in time to soak XP or get the gold. Not only that but the wave will be at an awkward spot. Instead of the waves probably meeting at around midway of botlane (safer for Jinx and Lulu), the wave will met closer to blue side outer bot tower and that will make them have to overextend to soak XP and CS which makes them prone to ganks. That’s why he had to stay to reset the lane and push in his cannon wave to make sure it crashes under tower.
The higher I climb the more I hate supports. Im D2 now and I feel like every single support I play with is around Silver and at max Gold level but somehow got high Diamond because their role is just that broken and unskilled. I despise them, theyre all so fking bad its actually ridiculous
As a silver support I agree. They're all pretty terrible. I've hit plat but I'm a grown ass man with a job. I can't grind out the games required to hit diamond. Anyways excuses aside when I find a diamond+ adc it's freelo. Just sit back and support, nothing fancy. This Lulu was awful I could've done so much better
@@brycedaugherty9211 You are the problem with supp. Inflated ego with no accomplishments. Saying you could do "so much better" than any chall player is insane while you're literally backseating from silver. Bottom 40%, excusing it with an unimpressive past peak and a job despite 80% of players having jobs. You can hit gold playing like once a month if you're remotely decent.
@@longlivenc7235 lol. You keep assuming you know me and I'll keep laughing about it. Yup son. I barely managed plat last season but I can't play anymore. New job. Got maybe 3 hours of free time every week which I spend with my kids. But you generalize and know everything about me. I could say I'm plat and still climbing. But that isn't true this season. I got placed silver and can't play since. So I'm silver. Both times Lulu went in and got super low early game I said WTF. She clearly was out of position almost the entire laning phase. If you can look at that and not think you could backseat better you might be bronze.
@@brycedaugherty9211 I'm not assuming anything, you outed yourself, and this comment only made it even worse. You ONLY played placements this season and you think you're better than a CHALL player. Insane delusion. Stop embarrassing yourself.
How is the editor not uploading a single piece of content from the LCS finals stream…. Had pob on w appearances from voyboy and scarra lmao this channel is so cooked
@2:45 "Because you are throwing a tantrum in a video game" I can't get on board with that. Lulu is trying to stand on business. Sure, the plays might not be optimal in hindsight, but hindsight is 20/20. Maybe the Lulu is playing 4D chess, and you aren't seeing the future positive trades!? I can't get on board with this one my guy. Suck it up, and do the gosh darn thing. Not everyone sees the game through the Lense of perfect pro play. Adapt to the chaos.
ngl doublelift typing at lulu like that is kinda a dick move. lulu was dumb AF for hitting the wave and fucking up his back, no arguing that, but if my adc typed "youre throwing a tantrum" after i hadnt said a word the whole game then id be tilted too. obviously lulu didnt know what he was doing was stupid so explain to him what he did wrong. dont just act like hes raging and running it down cause from lulus perspective he doesnt know wtf youre talking about. telling your teamate "youre throwing a tanturm" is super condecending. you cant expect everyone to see the game the same way as you especially while in game. if you want your teamate to do something then say it, but dont just assume they see the same thing you do.
Its crazy how these supportd get boosted up to these lobbies and preform like shit. Your literal job is to help the team. Not farm, not take kills, not take gold, literally just ward, use abilities on adc and watch lp go up. But instead im stuck in emerald while kids like this get to spend grey screened on ex pro gamers. Just fucking wild.
doublelift throwing a tantrum because someone else isnt playing EXACTLY how he wants then projects it onto them. I see you bro. Stop acting like a typical adc child. This is why ADCs get a bad rap
I mean double is managing his waves so he can maximize gold for late game. Support is 0-8 and is ruining his wave management. Any competent support knows only to last hit. Supports and their fragile egos 😂
emerald laners understands wave management better than that. Such a costly and easily preventable mistake that is insane to see at that level of play. He assumed he's trolling but most likely just trash
@@nezqu1kit wasn’t wave management. That canon wave pushes back regardless of that one glitterlance because of where it is, plus jhin coming back, and she was attacking the turret. It was tempo management because lulu should back, heal, and get items. Sounds like something someone in emerald would type to sound smart, lol. Double was just projecting his own tantrum. You can tell with the surrender vote because cho wasn’t “following”. And when he gets caught by yone ult with elder and blames the team
@@Qbwn17the 200 dmg on the wave is def enough to ruin the otherwise close to perfect wavestate. If lulu left the wave alone, but jerked off for 10-15 sec before recalling the tempo would be the same, yet it wouldn't hurt the lane nearly as much. Way to be pedantic lol
@@zensen1504 Big facts, shouldve wrote Yuntal over ANYTHING is crazy. Even with the interaction with mortal. Full build and the passive was giving him 22-24 damage a tick per auto.
I don't like either Lulu or DL's reaction, plus we don't even see the entire game so we don't know the whole picture. I like how people make assumptions with such limited information. Imagine if we assumed that you must be the shooter simply because you have a gun in your hand and there is a gunshot victim. What if victim shot themself and put the gun in your hand? But it goes both ways as well. Don't just assume that person (you) isn't the shooter either. Lulu could've either been intentionally or unintentionally griefing DL. But we don't know because we didn't see the entire laning phase. Also people need to realize tantrums aren't only verbal... It can be verbal, physical or both.
man.. the amount of moans and whines in this video.. gotta change up that attitude if you're gonna retain your viewers bro 🥲 I'll tell you now I stopped watching some other streamers once they started becoming more negative and toxic. it's just not fun to watch
is it just me or was doublelift sarcastically perfectly describing his own behavior when he was referring to lulu?
it's called projecting
It's called league of legends pre tilt
Fr, he keeps saying the lulu is crying when he’s the one who won’t stop complaining lol
i dont think lulu even knew what doubledick was talking about. unless there was something they edited out. this game for whatever reason brings out the worst in people. at this point i think the community is too far gone
@@fortnitegamer76 It's been like this from the beginning ~15 yrs ago. Any game that depends on teamwork of random online strangers can and will be toxic.
I think the scary thing is the challenger lulu might not even be trying to grief dlift. I think he's just that inflated without understanding waves.
That Lulu hurt my eyes. She could've shielded you at 1:04 but decides to E a minion instead lmao
Typical backseat enchanters.
misclicks happen, despite it all I commend Lulu for still playing the game when shit didn't go their way.
@@AnberlinFtwwwBLAT you have really low expectations of challenger players
He got mad that he hit the minions because his wave will push now that lulu had damaged the minions so he was forced to stay if he didn’t wanna miss a wave of xp it also messed up his tempo and made him lose a wave because he got a late back timing!
@@nezqu1k As long as they don't go afk or intentiaonally feed, I can respect that.
3:06 that cs prio lol
what im saying
Was just about to tag this lol,
I liked the breakdown of your play after the game.
the best way to improve at anything is to do a retro analysis.
A champion getting 7k hp with 4 items is absolutely fking insane.
Hi, can someone explain what was the mistake lulu made when started to hit the minions under tower? If the ally wave was already crashing I thought it should be fine. Don't really know about that tbh
if lulu didnt touch wave then it would 100% slow push/bounce towards doublelift and hed be able to collect almost all of it. once she damages it the wave will probably stay neutral instead, and it's guaranteed that at least a few more minions will die when he gets back. doublelift was already basing cuz it's cannon wave, and staying to push it he'll lose all of the next wave which happens. also jhin waveclear is pretty good + can stop their bases with luck which would be even worse
If the enemy wave is crashing under tower and you do nothing, it will start to push back, giving you a freeze.
But since jhin was comming back to lane fast enough anyway i dont know what that would have changed here. The main thing is that Lulu is not recallng and giving up tempo
It's just wave management, if he didn't touch it, Dlift would lose nothing maybe 1 minion and the wave would bounce back near the tower, because he touched it, he makes it much easier to crash the next wave, (which is what happened) losing Dlift gold and xp. Wave management is pretty hard to understand at first but it's very crucial at a high level. And in challenger, the Lulu should definitely understand this already.
aside from everything else that people have already mentioned, when you're playing support and your adc is basing, in absolutely no world is that a green light to start farming... that is some bronze level shit. You stick with your adc to maintain tempo unless you are roaming/warding. Ain't no fuckin way a serious support in master/challenger unironically thinks it's a good idea to stick around solo, pushed all the way into the enemy turret. That is just straight up griefing.
The remaining 3 minions were enough to secure a slow push back to red side. Dlift would be back to lane to catch the bounce back with minimal losses. Instead, Lulu touching the wave damaged the minions which means when the red side cannon wave meets that damaged blue side cannon wave, then some of those minions will die prematurely without Dlift being back in time to soak XP or get the gold.
Not only that but the wave will be at an awkward spot. Instead of the waves probably meeting at around midway of botlane (safer for Jinx and Lulu), the wave will met closer to blue side outer bot tower and that will make them have to overextend to soak XP and CS which makes them prone to ganks.
That’s why he had to stay to reset the lane and push in his cannon wave to make sure it crashes under tower.
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ayo hes building yun tal. ngl the item pretty good. ie + ldr + yuntal melts the tankiest tanks.
If the support messes up the wave, is it wise to open chat
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looks like a guide on how to play without a support and win
jinx build made me coom, finally the perfect build
3:05 +1
Champs in this game like Yone take too much coordination amongst, largely a group of stranger w/out comms, to control. Change my mind.
Can someone explain the lulu incident?
It sucks having a cho on your team. It literally feels like a 3v5 when your supp is useless and so clueless on game mechanics.
That Jhin was so cringe like bro why are you emoting every 2 seconds
cringe but challenger
The higher I climb the more I hate supports. Im D2 now and I feel like every single support I play with is around Silver and at max Gold level but somehow got high Diamond because their role is just that broken and unskilled.
I despise them, theyre all so fking bad its actually ridiculous
As a silver support I agree. They're all pretty terrible. I've hit plat but I'm a grown ass man with a job. I can't grind out the games required to hit diamond. Anyways excuses aside when I find a diamond+ adc it's freelo. Just sit back and support, nothing fancy. This Lulu was awful I could've done so much better
fr like sera and poppy players making my bot laning phase hell.
@@brycedaugherty9211 You are the problem with supp. Inflated ego with no accomplishments. Saying you could do "so much better" than any chall player is insane while you're literally backseating from silver. Bottom 40%, excusing it with an unimpressive past peak and a job despite 80% of players having jobs. You can hit gold playing like once a month if you're remotely decent.
@@longlivenc7235 lol. You keep assuming you know me and I'll keep laughing about it. Yup son. I barely managed plat last season but I can't play anymore. New job. Got maybe 3 hours of free time every week which I spend with my kids. But you generalize and know everything about me. I could say I'm plat and still climbing. But that isn't true this season. I got placed silver and can't play since. So I'm silver. Both times Lulu went in and got super low early game I said WTF. She clearly was out of position almost the entire laning phase. If you can look at that and not think you could backseat better you might be bronze.
@@brycedaugherty9211 I'm not assuming anything, you outed yourself, and this comment only made it even worse. You ONLY played placements this season and you think you're better than a CHALL player. Insane delusion. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Jinx without collector is hard to fight nowadays. Build sequence: Collector -> Runaan -> IE. You are in GOD mode.
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How is the editor not uploading a single piece of content from the LCS finals stream…. Had pob on w appearances from voyboy and scarra lmao this channel is so cooked
Go outside dude
so lulu made mistake and you turn toxic to her woow
tyler syndrome
@2:45 "Because you are throwing a tantrum in a video game" I can't get on board with that.
Lulu is trying to stand on business. Sure, the plays might not be optimal in hindsight, but hindsight is 20/20.
Maybe the Lulu is playing 4D chess, and you aren't seeing the future positive trades!?
I can't get on board with this one my guy.
Suck it up, and do the gosh darn thing.
Not everyone sees the game through the Lense of perfect pro play.
Adapt to the chaos.
Aurora is the most broken shit ever i hate it so unfun to play against
gg
ngl doublelift typing at lulu like that is kinda a dick move. lulu was dumb AF for hitting the wave and fucking up his back, no arguing that, but if my adc typed "youre throwing a tantrum" after i hadnt said a word the whole game then id be tilted too. obviously lulu didnt know what he was doing was stupid so explain to him what he did wrong. dont just act like hes raging and running it down cause from lulus perspective he doesnt know wtf youre talking about. telling your teamate "youre throwing a tanturm" is super condecending. you cant expect everyone to see the game the same way as you especially while in game. if you want your teamate to do something then say it, but dont just assume they see the same thing you do.
this is challenger elo. She is supposed to know how wave and lanes work.
Everyone complaining here never played adc i guess. Supports can to stuff wrong on purpose to tilt
Okay, not your best video yet imo. You were very toxic. Lulu didn't deserve that shit.
Its crazy how these supportd get boosted up to these lobbies and preform like shit. Your literal job is to help the team. Not farm, not take kills, not take gold, literally just ward, use abilities on adc and watch lp go up. But instead im stuck in emerald while kids like this get to spend grey screened on ex pro gamers. Just fucking wild.
Imagine acting like this as an adult lol
damn his music taste is horrid wtf
doublelift throwing a tantrum because someone else isnt playing EXACTLY how he wants then projects it onto them. I see you bro. Stop acting like a typical adc child. This is why ADCs get a bad rap
I think nerds need to chill and enjoy the game that’s the main problem
I mean double is managing his waves so he can maximize gold for late game. Support is 0-8 and is ruining his wave management. Any competent support knows only to last hit. Supports and their fragile egos 😂
emerald laners understands wave management better than that. Such a costly and easily preventable mistake that is insane to see at that level of play. He assumed he's trolling but most likely just trash
@@nezqu1kit wasn’t wave management. That canon wave pushes back regardless of that one glitterlance because of where it is, plus jhin coming back, and she was attacking the turret. It was tempo management because lulu should back, heal, and get items. Sounds like something someone in emerald would type to sound smart, lol. Double was just projecting his own tantrum. You can tell with the surrender vote because cho wasn’t “following”. And when he gets caught by yone ult with elder and blames the team
@@Qbwn17the 200 dmg on the wave is def enough to ruin the otherwise close to perfect wavestate. If lulu left the wave alone, but jerked off for 10-15 sec before recalling the tempo would be the same, yet it wouldn't hurt the lane nearly as much. Way to be pedantic lol
Minute?
Nah yuntal over LDR is crazy.
He already had mortal reminder…can’t buy both…
@@zensen1504 Big facts, shouldve wrote Yuntal over ANYTHING is crazy. Even with the interaction with mortal.
Full build and the passive was giving him 22-24 damage a tick per auto.
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Bruh I hate when he complains so
annoying 😭 grown ass man
I don't like either Lulu or DL's reaction, plus we don't even see the entire game so we don't know the whole picture. I like how people make assumptions with such limited information. Imagine if we assumed that you must be the shooter simply because you have a gun in your hand and there is a gunshot victim. What if victim shot themself and put the gun in your hand? But it goes both ways as well. Don't just assume that person (you) isn't the shooter either. Lulu could've either been intentionally or unintentionally griefing DL. But we don't know because we didn't see the entire laning phase. Also people need to realize tantrums aren't only verbal... It can be verbal, physical or both.
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Wow 20 views in 1 minute bros falling off
I am so sick of seeing this unoriginal shit stain of a comment.
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He is not falling off .. ur sense of humor is
Write something original
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Remove the twitch chat Jesus Christ it’s so cringe seeing them type
Do like I do and don't look at it
just don't read it? like i don't understand the need to cry about shit that has the simplest solutions
How come u don't build collector. You would have snowballed harder. Try collector 1 or 3rd item 😅❤
Wow indeed that's crazy
man.. the amount of moans and whines in this video.. gotta change up that attitude if you're gonna retain your viewers bro 🥲 I'll tell you now I stopped watching some other streamers once they started becoming more negative and toxic. it's just not fun to watch