I can't find a source anywhere for any good psychedelics in my area, I suffer some pretty bad depression and i got a chance to try K and man it was a miracle substance, I felt free,the only high or euphoria was from the relief of my vices being released, that's exactly what it did
Mushroom completely turned my life around and my anxiety and panic attack disappeared and my personality changed into a much more generous loving person
1:53:59 “You can’t be a true scientist without being a mystic” ~ Dennis McKenna reminds me of one my favorite quote by Fritjof Capra “Science does not need mysticism and mysticism does not need science but man needs both.”
Around 1:15:00 the story of Dennis and brother Terence back in the day spicing up their ramen noodles daily with mushrooms 🍄 because they lacked a variety of foods. So Epic‼️ Stop the war on vegetables🍄‼️☯️
I found out years after the fact that I had done ayahuasca 3 times with a brujo who used datura in his ayahuasca brew. I would have NEVER done it with him if I had known he was using datura. 😔 I do have to say though, although there was some massive challenges around the trauma of integration (I didn't have a support network), my capacity for self introspection and mental fortitude is lightyears ahead because of this work.
Daaamn datura must have been really though and scary :o but yea surviving that really builds ur mental strength I once took Nbom blotters and they said it was acid, really had a bad trip and it took me 3yrs to fully recover from mentally , really lost myself back then
@@inphinitezero5499 in which way was the nbom worse than the acid you prepared for? Was it stronger than the acid you where used to? You think that „horrortrip“ wouldn’t have happened with acid? I’m really curious about the different perception of people that took those analoges while believing they took the „original“
@@rolux4853 i cant speak for him but yea 25i is very intense and its wayy easy to take too much and OD. I didnt know it when i took it, but i sensed that its a dangerous place i had been taken to.
I fell asleep and woke up to this podcast rolling by the algorithm. I was still dreaming with my eyes closed, I was dreaming lucidly; aware I was thinking at the same time as I was dreaming, listening to the podcast.It felt like I was doing this for 20 minutes before I woke up to much. It was such a great experience.
For those interested in McKenna and his brother and are unfamiliar with their lives, the story all really starts here: ruclips.net/video/gs-pJu-Gb1I/видео.html This is a nine+ hour account of their journey into the Amazon in 1971. Beware the severely abbreviated video by the same name (True Hallucinations) that is only 2+ hours long that can also be found on RUclips. I haven't even tried to listen to it but reducing a nine+ hour journey to a 2+ hour journey can't help but have ruined it. Thanks Tim for such a non-intrusive conversation with Dennis, and for your generosity.
That feeling shall pass, too. See if you can change the view: the message is about visuals, the key is to avoid using fake visuals :) if we focus on facial expressions, there will be less attention left for the actual topic.. and maybe Tim looks less good today or feels more sensitive to go for serious face - let the guy be, he has given enough ;) what do you say
@@GPNiFIT yeah but everything matters in production, equipment, quality, crew, storage, edit time, release, even with our "advanced" tech, there are so many elements to a "basic" production the professional novice is immediately overwhelmed by, speaking into a mic still has the significant impact it always has
Wow, I didn't know Terrence Mackenna had a brother who is carrying the torch. Fantastic. I've been out of the loop on psychedelics for decades but with the recent world mayhem and so forth, I find my Eastern meditation lineages behaving like there is nothing unusual at all going on. Its very off putting to hear your lamas say nothing other than, "OK, we'll see you guys next time, be safe, wear your mask, don't worry more vaccines are coming! Hahah!" I've come to the conclusion I can't expect Tibetans to be able to deal with this crisis, its nothing to do with their medical system or even belief system, its really beyond the pale for us too. They are probably worried the overreaching govts will shut them down if they say anything about you know what. People in psychedelics seem at least more modern and able to process what is happening even though it is relative, there are people I could probably talk directly and honestly about the literal end of the world we are facing, thats where i find myself everyday on the relative level in a western society. Anyway, great interview for which i am very greatful, Dennis Mackenna clearly has a lot to say about Ayhuasca and I want to delve more. I'm sorry to hear about Toé and Burgmansia, there was a link to a dieta and plant doctor's study program in Peru that Erowid has a link to that I persued and had them send me their in depth brochures. Burgmansia leaves are smoked everyday in their training programs and there is a burgmansia brew drinking ceremony in their one month training program and I think several in their three month program, whereas you are doing regular ayhuasca every other day and smoking burgmansia leaves everyday. They mention the brew is not drunk often as it is extremely powerful, but as i recall they do say that Burgmansia is an important friend of Ayahuasca along with tobacco and it seems to be very essential to this particular tradition. On the surface the program looked very together, thorough and traditional yet realitically flexible for accomodating non-traditinal people, for serious students of vegetalismo and ayahuasca shamanism, lots of detailed info is given to prospective participants, but wow, gee, I'm now thinking twice or at least that I need to look into whether toé has other applications than simply gaining total control over people. Perhaps Dennis means that for most people burgmansia is just getting in way over their heads. But in this interview Dennis seems not fully aware of the full scope of Burgmansia use, or at least he just doesn't want to go there in this interview because it is such a can of worms which i am sure it is, though its good to learn that this stuff is often used in Brujeria even if not exclusively, and to be reminded of how scopalamine is used to rob people, yeah even over in Asia whwere plant medicine is not really a thing or not the extent that it is in South America yes, here too where I am , it is phenomenal how people will just hand over their gold jewelry, empty their bank accounts to people. It is said they can touch you in passing and apply something to your skin and you don't even know it and they then follow you and wait till its effect kicks in and they go after you. People get hit on trains or busses most often. But for what it is worth, the early books of Carlos Castaneda, and Castaneda was most likely from the prime ayahuascero territory of Peru, have Don Juan making use of datura (close relative of Burgmansia) in Carlos' training. Also, this ayahuasca plant medicine training program I mentioned previously seems to use the burgmansia leaves for some kind of dream application, there is something mentioned about that in their program outline. Sorry for the long post, but I thought it was important to mention that Burgmanisa may not be just some kin dof nefarious thing to run screaming from the room everytime it shows up. But, what do I know, Dennis may know well this truly is simply an evil to be avoided in the ayhuasca-dieta-vegetalismo shamanism path, perhaps this training program is just some kind very dark cult behind the facade of being a shamnism training center. That kind of thing of course is not unusual and a lot of very nasty stuff goes on all around us, especially these days. The men in white coats will probably comin for me any minute now for posting an overly long post, haha! Our global "society"'s own brujeria swirls round about us everywhere!
I took something ayahuasca-like (acacia confusa rootbark + syrian rue) and it pushed me right up to the edge of psychosis. I could tell the difference between real and imagined sensations, in the sense that I knew there were two categories of sensations and in retrospect one of them was the real one, but at the time I couldn't see any reason to care about one more than about the other. And since I came down, weirdness has been occasionally poking its head up from my subconscious into the realm of my awareness. I'll randomly remember seeing three of something, but I can't remember what there were three of. I'll find myself thinking a phrase without any idea what it means. It's cool and weird, and I definitely got to the highest dose I want to be anywhere near. It's a good thing I have a scale, because that experience isn't something I ever want to encounter accidentally.
Datura,,A young boy was sick and had many mental issues that were not typical of one his age. it was found by chance,a plant was growing outside his bedroom window. This was in the late seventies. In the eighties I tried Datura as a drink,the effects were tolerable for an hour or so,then it hit me with full force. My legs turned to concrete and I had to be assisted in laying down,the pain in my legs was very bad and it lasted for many hours. Dont touch it!!
A highlight of my life was having lunch with Dennis at Southern Cross University, Lismore Australia, with my brothers in lore at the Phytochemistry Lab. Dennis is definitely lucid, for want of a better word. So on it.
While the majority of my experiences have been ego dissolving, I have had a couple of experiences that were ego affirming & I felt as though the mushrooms was bestowing me with privileged information. I take those lessons with a grain of salt compared to what I have been shown/told in other experiences. I'm not an expert in this field, but it stands to reason that those experiences were more a reflection of my own psyche than having any deeper meaning.
@@zacharydienberg6092 hmm not sure we can pick and choose. It appears to me that it's all a reflection of our state and psyche. Ego or something affirming ego doesn't have to be a negative thing?
Sometimes your experience might let you run, play, swim, ride, surf etc. and the experience is revelatory... other times you can’t really activate physically (or it is not easy to) and you have to just chill... Sometimes you go on an emotional/introspective journey in your mind and the visual hallucinations (opened and closed eye) can be powerful, other times it just makes everything just look very vivid and beautiful and clear. Sometimes you can be around people and interact, other times you don’t want to engage with people and you just want to be with others you’re tripping with or ones you feel comfortable with, sometimes you need to be alone. Different doses and even different strains and different mindstates or intentions can all contribute to very different experiences from trip to trip... but I suspect that’s the case with many other psychedelics also.
@@brodiwheeler7583 Wow thank you Brodi for that spectacular response!👏👏👏👌 I appreciate and agree with all of it‼️ Im going to read over ur comment again in case I missed something the1st time.☯️
Dennis McKenna said he disagrees with 'if you get the message, hang up the phone.' That's pretty big. Especially knowing Terence had the 'lack of all meaning' trip and was scared away. Denis is quite the modern shaman.
Again, that feeling shall pass, too. See if you can change the view: the message is about visuals, the key is to avoid using fake visuals :) if we focus on facial expressions, there will be less attention left for the actual topic.. and maybe Tim looks less good today or feels more sensitive to go for serious face - let the guy be, he has given enough ;) what do you say
r/im14andthisisdeep. The guy was literally just asking for a "video" to accompany the audio, which Tim used to do in the past. Plus we're on RUclips, it's not a far-fetched idea.
OMG YES!!! 1:38 voucher specimen in layman's terms: you need to preserve some plant material so it can be identified because people often misidentify and the names also change. If you chemically study a plant but there's no specimen, your work is sometimes useless because nobody knows what plant you ACTUALLY worked on. For ex everyone using the plant 'faham' thought it was Jumellea fragrans for 200 years. Long story but that is why.
How were they able to have an on going psychedelic experience if you need more and more and more dosage to achieve same "high"? At some point you just have diminishing returns. I suppose the psychosis that can follow large doses was a large part if the experience. I know Terrence mentions that Dennis needed space to come back to his own reality. What a crazy experience that must have been. I've read it and listened to it from them both. Very strange
apexnine 🙏 terrance wasn’t even ingesting Psychedelics anymore because he was terrified of Them; yet he spent over a decade pretending he still ingested Psychedelics as he used the Psychedelic’s name to promote himself. ꧁terrance mckenna꧂ was a human terrified to face the Psychedelics, yet is still being used as a tool by the darkness to keep humans AWAY from God. terrance was terrified of ingesting Psychedelics in any significant amounts anymore for over a decade as he “toured” and gave lectures of gobbledygook while pretending to still ingest God’s Flesh. His own brother outed him for his deception; that caused a “riff” between them - Dennis confronted terrance about his fraud. I doubt most humans would have been so “enamored” with terrance’s nonsensical ramblings were he truthful about the fact that he was terrified to face the Psychedelics anymore as he ranted on with his gobbledygook. gob·ble·dy·gook /ˈɡäbəldēˌɡo͞ok/ noun 1. language that is meaningless or is made unintelligible by excessive use of abstruse technical terms; nonsense “his babblings about Psychedelics are gobbledygook” Yes, even from his grave terrance is leading humans down the dark path that leads to destruction. A man terrified to ingest Psychedelics declares 5 grams of Psilocybin is a “heroic” dose and many humans believe that foolishness, thus helping in hampering them from seeing Who God is. A human gets closer to God by purifying their physical body (God’s Temple) and eating larger amounts of their flesh. terrance never did understand Who the Psychedelics are and thus was unable to follow Their Laws; terrance was never in possession of Their Knowledge, he was always unqualified to be a teacher of God. No human that is not adhering to the Psychedelic’s Laws can stay with Them, not in this life, nor in the Life to come. All True Psychedelics will confirm these things. - vincent “The Light has entered the world, and yet humans have preferred darkness to Light. It is because their actions have been evil; for anyone whose practices are corrupt loathes the Light, and will not come out into Them, in case their actions are exposed. Whereas anyone whose life is true comes out into the Light, to make it plain that their actions have been divinely prompted. (Saint John 3:19) ruclips.net/video/eHt4bsvMilc/видео.html GodsNarrowGate@gmail.com
@@justthemessengers , dude, you've replied to me elsewhere on YT. I appreciate the thoughts on Terrence. However, you can keep your cult lies, you're quotes, to yourself.
@@justthemessengers you couldn’t even bother to spell his name right? That to me tarnishes your credibility… I love Terence but that being said I know where your coming from, I have listened to weeks worth of his talks and he brushes up on the idea of God but calls it the transcendental other at the end of time or thee attractor force…I think this was his rational scientific mind not being able to comprehend the validity of god in the psychedelic experiences… Terence was a brilliant mind in many different aspects and I hope his soul is at peace
@@justthemessengers Please. Even after he stopped using psychedelics, he was still razor sharp and making great sense. Too bad you can't see past your own belief system (BS) and narrow thinking.
If you have enough of whatever you're taking, you can just keep ramping it up. Summer of 1986, Santa Cruz CA, a few of us were eating LSD and mushrooms like there was no tomorrow. We would ramp up the dosage until we just couldn't get high. We'd take a week off, then repeat that process. But even with just a few repeated high doses, things can get *really* weird, really fast. My friend there, was, unbeknownst to me, calling my parents because she was so concerned that I was never coming back down. Even with a week or so off, I was so far gone, I had permanent residence on the rings of Jupiter.
It was Alan Watts, who then drank himself to death. Maybe he did it intentionally, but clearly you are still responsible for your own behavior despite what you might "learn" from the chemical
This is a difficult idea for me to propose. I understand the moral implications and I truly mean no disrespect. I wonder if it is possible to meet ancestors during a trip/dream/meditation. I think if any two could and would try to communicate with each other, it would be Dennis and Terrence. I'm sorry for saying it, may he rest in peace. I think that even in death he would continue to journey and explore the portal which leads to all places. In this place one could travel within and beyond space and time. He believed. I think the difficult and healing question to ask is if he is there on the other plane of existence looking for us to reach out and have a discussion with perhaps no words.
1:17:00 last time I tripped it was a huge dose and I got it in my head that everybody else (my roommates) already had the knowledge that I was getting from the mushrooms or the perspective rather. And I was finally catching up to them. But they obvi were off psychedelics and drinkers/smokers and think mushrooms are poison lmao. Like I was tripping hard and chilling in the house acting all crazy and they made me watch the Lorax and my one roommate was like ya bro I seen the Lorax before. So I thought he already got it. That’s another thing that’s happened is me thinking “I got it “ and I’m like ay now I get it. And I think “this kid gets it” those kids don’t get it at all. Like how important and special life is
I've had that same experience, like your consciousness levels up and everyone else is taken over by new spirits that are welcoming you to their dimension...trippy lol
It was Dennis McKennas intent to take grocery bags of mushrooms back with him to sell. If the mushroom doesn’t like your intentions. The mushroom will not appear.
@Tim Ferriss -- Could you tell me how to summon an angel in God's service? I'm just starting my own shamanic journey and wanted some companions along. Thank you for this interesting interview with ol' Dennis.
The Aztec priests would consume psychedelics, and then perform human sacrifices. To me this proves it's all in your mind. If there really were other entities involved, the knowledge and wisdom coming from them would council against the efficacy of human sacrifice, or it would council us today to practice it. There are no other entities when you trip. It's just you, all you baby. Your culture, your nature, your nurture. Alone. Ok. Well... I've never smoked DMT. Maybe those entities are hyperspace aliens. Maybe. But all I've ever gotten from LSD and psilocin is my own mental contents. So for me... and I think many other people... it's a self-exploration with no real 'others' involved. And that's ok. It's still more than one lifetime worth of work.
They can only communicate through what you are willing to perceive. You believe your truth; so it is. Allow room for the perspective that they are in fact entities and you can achieve the separation and increase your intuitive knowing of what is you and what is guiding you.
dmt is on another level,, was no way prepared for what was goin g to happen. One can listen to a year of trip reports, wont prepare someone. Did it , came back, said holy shit I didnt think that was possible.. Its blow your mind stuff.. maybe its all bs,, but I think there is something real about it. lsd visions I knew were bs. some experiences on shrooms , some seemed like real spiritual stuff,, On dmt ,, it all seems real
Datura, Toe any tropane type active.... Totally uninteresting..... Nothing profound. The 'experience' is no more profound, or beneficial than a concussion or Alzheimer's.
In the beautiful book, plants of the Gods, by Richard schultes and Albert Hoffman, the first picture in the book, and the biggest picture, is an Opium poppy plant.
Consider interviewing Dave Smith. Native New Yorker on-point on the new Jim Crow: ruclips.net/video/4T585GR3UM0/видео.html Letting Apartheid come to NYC (and now LA, SF .. ) without a SINGLE word is standing firmly on the wrong side of history.
The Shaman is more important than people know. Don't even think about ayahuasca without an expert provider. Seriously! They keep you grounded and can save you during a bad trip. Bad trips on ayahuasca happen sometimes. It can be dangerous.
Hi Tim, hope you're doing good. I'm reaching out from Broadband TV because my team is very interested in exploring a strategic partnership with you - I thought I'd try leaving a comment since there is no email listed. Would be great to connect for a quick call or over email next week - please let me know if you get this! Thank you! Julian at BBTV
I did ayawasca about 5x in traditional settings. Nothing really happened, I puked of course, but no fantastic colors or vivid realms….quite uncomfortable really….high for sure, but knew where I was..no big teacher thing happened…just sayin
Brugmansia was named after a Dutch botanist and physician (Sebald Justinus Brugmans) by European botanists. Saying it with a spanish pronunciation is...unnecessary.
... Beautiful and substantive. Thank you.... let's not forget about opium. The hill tribes of the Golden Triangle have Spirit Gates. The ladies have beautiful headdresses sporting imitation Opium poppy pods.
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6:55 Interview FINALLY begins. You are very welcome ladies and germs!
much appreciated!
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That would have been 6 minutes of my life I would have never got back 🤣
Thank you!
I can't find a source anywhere for any good psychedelics in my area, I suffer some pretty bad depression and i got a chance to try K and man it was a miracle substance, I felt free,the only high or euphoria was from the relief of my vices being released, that's exactly what it did
The psychedelic experience is temporary but many people have permanent results
Mushroom completely turned my life around and my anxiety and panic attack disappeared and my personality changed into a much more generous loving person
@lionessmindset4331 Is he on on Instagram or what?
All the problems that these compounds can help solve, and the potential for peace they have.
@lionessmindset4331 thanks, I will get some right away
1:53:59
“You can’t be a true scientist without being a mystic” ~ Dennis McKenna
reminds me of one my favorite quote by Fritjof Capra “Science does not need mysticism and mysticism does not need science but man needs both.”
I believe we are referring to the left and right brain parts, the logical vs creative. Man does need both
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind" -Albert Einstein
love it
@@rmccluskey91 The first part is untrue. Science is in no need of religion whatsoever.
@@jimnewcombe7584 where did your soul come from? Let me know when science figures that out
Around 1:15:00 the story of Dennis and brother Terence back in the day spicing up their ramen noodles daily with mushrooms 🍄 because they lacked a variety of foods. So Epic‼️
Stop the war on vegetables🍄‼️☯️
Stop the war on fungi!
Haha the book about the full story is so awesome 😄
I found out years after the fact that I had done ayahuasca 3 times with a brujo who used datura in his ayahuasca brew. I would have NEVER done it with him if I had known he was using datura. 😔 I do have to say though, although there was some massive challenges around the trauma of integration (I didn't have a support network), my capacity for self introspection and mental fortitude is lightyears ahead because of this work.
Thanks for sharing, sincerely 😁
Sorry that happened to you. It sounds like a harsh way to develop strength. But it’s good you got through it and you can see the positives in it now.
Daaamn datura must have been really though and scary :o but yea surviving that really builds ur mental strength
I once took Nbom blotters and they said it was acid, really had a bad trip and it took me 3yrs to fully recover from mentally , really lost myself back then
@@inphinitezero5499 in which way was the nbom worse than the acid you prepared for?
Was it stronger than the acid you where used to?
You think that „horrortrip“ wouldn’t have happened with acid?
I’m really curious about the different perception of people that took those analoges while believing they took the „original“
@@rolux4853 i cant speak for him but yea 25i is very intense and its wayy easy to take too much and OD. I didnt know it when i took it, but i sensed that its a dangerous place i had been taken to.
5:02 start of the podcast
One of those things anime intro 1:30 and tims intro 5:00 😅
@@harryodendaal345 lll
I fell asleep and woke up to this podcast rolling by the algorithm. I was still dreaming with my eyes closed, I was dreaming lucidly; aware I was thinking at the same time as I was dreaming, listening to the podcast.It felt like I was doing this for 20 minutes before I woke up to much. It was such a great experience.
I appreciate the integrity and seriousness of this conversation. Thank you so much
For those interested in McKenna and his brother and are unfamiliar with their lives, the story all really starts here:
ruclips.net/video/gs-pJu-Gb1I/видео.html
This is a nine+ hour account of their journey into the Amazon in 1971. Beware the severely abbreviated video by the same name (True Hallucinations) that is only 2+ hours long that can also be found on RUclips. I haven't even tried to listen to it but reducing a nine+ hour journey to a 2+ hour journey can't help but have ruined it.
Thanks Tim for such a non-intrusive conversation with Dennis, and for your generosity.
Why doesn't Tim do video/ in person podcasts anymore? I feel like that would make it a lot better.
That feeling shall pass, too. See if you can change the view: the message is about visuals, the key is to avoid using fake visuals :) if we focus on facial expressions, there will be less attention left for the actual topic.. and maybe Tim looks less good today or feels more sensitive to go for serious face - let the guy be, he has given enough ;) what do you say
10000% - we are in 2021. I dont get it. I was super looking forward to this interview. We are not in 1930 anymore with radio only.
@@accadia1983 100
The plandemic.
@@GPNiFIT yeah but everything matters in production, equipment, quality, crew, storage, edit time, release, even with our "advanced" tech, there are so many elements to a "basic" production the professional novice is immediately overwhelmed by, speaking into a mic still has the significant impact it always has
Wow, I didn't know Terrence Mackenna had a brother who is carrying the torch. Fantastic. I've been out of the loop on psychedelics for decades but with the recent world mayhem and so forth, I find my Eastern meditation lineages behaving like there is nothing unusual at all going on. Its very off putting to hear your lamas say nothing other than, "OK, we'll see you guys next time, be safe, wear your mask, don't worry more vaccines are coming! Hahah!" I've come to the conclusion I can't expect Tibetans to be able to deal with this crisis, its nothing to do with their medical system or even belief system, its really beyond the pale for us too. They are probably worried the overreaching govts will shut them down if they say anything about you know what. People in psychedelics seem at least more modern and able to process what is happening even though it is relative, there are people I could probably talk directly and honestly about the literal end of the world we are facing, thats where i find myself everyday on the relative level in a western society.
Anyway, great interview for which i am very greatful, Dennis Mackenna clearly has a lot to say about Ayhuasca and I want to delve more. I'm sorry to hear about Toé and Burgmansia, there was a link to a dieta and plant doctor's study program in Peru that Erowid has a link to that I persued and had them send me their in depth brochures. Burgmansia leaves are smoked everyday in their training programs and there is a burgmansia brew drinking ceremony in their one month training program and I think several in their three month program, whereas you are doing regular ayhuasca every other day and smoking burgmansia leaves everyday. They mention the brew is not drunk often as it is extremely powerful, but as i recall they do say that Burgmansia is an important friend of Ayahuasca along with tobacco and it seems to be very essential to this particular tradition. On the surface the program looked very together, thorough and traditional yet realitically flexible for accomodating non-traditinal people, for serious students of vegetalismo and ayahuasca shamanism, lots of detailed info is given to prospective participants, but wow, gee, I'm now thinking twice or at least that I need to look into whether toé has other applications than simply gaining total control over people. Perhaps Dennis means that for most people burgmansia is just getting in way over their heads. But in this interview Dennis seems not fully aware of the full scope of Burgmansia use, or at least he just doesn't want to go there in this interview because it is such a can of worms which i am sure it is, though its good to learn that this stuff is often used in Brujeria even if not exclusively, and to be reminded of how scopalamine is used to rob people, yeah even over in Asia whwere plant medicine is not really a thing or not the extent that it is in South America yes, here too where I am , it is phenomenal how people will just hand over their gold jewelry, empty their bank accounts to people. It is said they can touch you in passing and apply something to your skin and you don't even know it and they then follow you and wait till its effect kicks in and they go after you. People get hit on trains or busses most often. But for what it is worth, the early books of Carlos Castaneda, and Castaneda was most likely from the prime ayahuascero territory of Peru, have Don Juan making use of datura (close relative of Burgmansia) in Carlos' training. Also, this ayahuasca plant medicine training program I mentioned previously seems to use the burgmansia leaves for some kind of dream application, there is something mentioned about that in their program outline. Sorry for the long post, but I thought it was important to mention that Burgmanisa may not be just some kin dof nefarious thing to run screaming from the room everytime it shows up. But, what do I know, Dennis may know well this truly is simply an evil to be avoided in the ayhuasca-dieta-vegetalismo shamanism path, perhaps this training program is just some kind very dark cult behind the facade of being a shamnism training center. That kind of thing of course is not unusual and a lot of very nasty stuff goes on all around us, especially these days. The men in white coats will probably comin for me any minute now for posting an overly long post, haha! Our global "society"'s own brujeria swirls round about us everywhere!
Good post.
👁
Dennis has been the one carrying the torch the whole time, Terrance was just more public, and more of an explorer only, where Dennis is an academic.
Are you aware now that covid has never been isolated or purified? It doesn't exist mate. There's a reason the Eastern mystics were playing with you
I took something ayahuasca-like (acacia confusa rootbark + syrian rue) and it pushed me right up to the edge of psychosis. I could tell the difference between real and imagined sensations, in the sense that I knew there were two categories of sensations and in retrospect one of them was the real one, but at the time I couldn't see any reason to care about one more than about the other. And since I came down, weirdness has been occasionally poking its head up from my subconscious into the realm of my awareness. I'll randomly remember seeing three of something, but I can't remember what there were three of. I'll find myself thinking a phrase without any idea what it means. It's cool and weird, and I definitely got to the highest dose I want to be anywhere near. It's a good thing I have a scale, because that experience isn't something I ever want to encounter accidentally.
Hi, what was your dosage and preparation like? I am interested in making some
@@dazykuri ditto
You're in chapel perilous. Check out Robert Anton Wilson
You may have taken something like the lost Elysian mystery potion. An ancient Mediterranean Ayahuasca
@@moistlaugh mind elaborating?
Datura,,A young boy was sick and had many mental issues that were not typical of one his age.
it was found by chance,a plant was growing outside his bedroom window.
This was in the late seventies.
In the eighties I tried Datura as a drink,the effects were tolerable for an hour or so,then it
hit me with full force.
My legs turned to concrete and I had to be assisted in laying down,the pain in my legs
was very bad and it lasted for many hours.
Dont touch it!!
I've heard pretty much nothing but bad things about it
A highlight of my life was having lunch with Dennis at Southern Cross University, Lismore Australia, with my brothers in lore at the Phytochemistry Lab. Dennis is definitely lucid, for want of a better word. So on it.
This interview was exceptional Tim. Kuddos on your generous contribution as well.
'Science, properly used, should deepen the mystery and increase the wonder'
At 1:14:39 Dennis says only the Kindle version available.
Do you ever wonder why they call it Kindle?
Does it have something to do with book burning?
Alan watts was speaking about LSD when he said, “once you get the message, hang up the phone”
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it starts at 5:00, until then its only advertising (who thought so ...)
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was just gonna check this out for a few minutes and listened to the whole thing ! Good job !
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Schultes in Afghanistan kneeling next to the first broadleaf cannabis plants he had ever seen is one of my favorite pictures.
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At 1:16:38 He says “Mushrooms can be tricky!” going on to say how deceiving mushrooms 🍄 can be. Can anyone elaborate on why Dennis might say this?
While the majority of my experiences have been ego dissolving, I have had a couple of experiences that were ego affirming & I felt as though the mushrooms was bestowing me with privileged information. I take those lessons with a grain of salt compared to what I have been shown/told in other experiences. I'm not an expert in this field, but it stands to reason that those experiences were more a reflection of my own psyche than having any deeper meaning.
@@zacharydienberg6092 hmm not sure we can pick and choose. It appears to me that it's all a reflection of our state and psyche. Ego or something affirming ego doesn't have to be a negative thing?
Sometimes your experience might let you run, play, swim, ride, surf etc. and the experience is revelatory... other times you can’t really activate physically (or it is not easy to) and you have to just chill... Sometimes you go on an emotional/introspective journey in your mind and the visual hallucinations (opened and closed eye) can be powerful, other times it just makes everything just look very vivid and beautiful and clear. Sometimes you can be around people and interact, other times you don’t want to engage with people and you just want to be with others you’re tripping with or ones you feel comfortable with, sometimes you need to be alone. Different doses and even different strains and different mindstates or intentions can all contribute to very different experiences from trip to trip... but I suspect that’s the case with many other psychedelics also.
@@brodiwheeler7583 Wow thank you Brodi for that spectacular response!👏👏👏👌 I appreciate and agree with all of it‼️ Im going to read over ur comment again in case I missed something the1st time.☯️
@@carolinewells4355 Aloha & Safe Trips 🤙🏼🍄
Dennis McKenna said he disagrees with 'if you get the message, hang up the phone.' That's pretty big. Especially knowing Terence had the 'lack of all meaning' trip and was scared away. Denis is quite the modern shaman.
Yeah. Over 500 sessions too. He clearly has a strong mind and alot of willpower to be so grounded
Fantastic interview. Much respect to Dennis' work
Great interview. Love it!! Thank you Tim and Dennis!!
I love your ,"The Tim Ferriss Show", photo on screen.... Hahaha...!
It would be much nicer if you do the interview alive so we can SEE the people talking. It has more meaning/ seems to be more real
Again, that feeling shall pass, too. See if you can change the view: the message is about visuals, the key is to avoid using fake visuals :) if we focus on facial expressions, there will be less attention left for the actual topic.. and maybe Tim looks less good today or feels more sensitive to go for serious face - let the guy be, he has given enough ;) what do you say
Everything you see is a construct of the mind
r/im14andthisisdeep.
The guy was literally just asking for a "video" to accompany the audio, which Tim used to do in the past. Plus we're on RUclips, it's not a far-fetched idea.
TOTALLY AGREED!
OMG YES!!! 1:38 voucher specimen in layman's terms: you need to preserve some plant material so it can be identified because people often misidentify and the names also change. If you chemically study a plant but there's no specimen, your work is sometimes useless because nobody knows what plant you ACTUALLY worked on. For ex everyone using the plant 'faham' thought it was Jumellea fragrans for 200 years. Long story but that is why.
How were they able to have an on going psychedelic experience if you need more and more and more dosage to achieve same "high"? At some point you just have diminishing returns. I suppose the psychosis that can follow large doses was a large part if the experience. I know Terrence mentions that Dennis needed space to come back to his own reality.
What a crazy experience that must have been. I've read it and listened to it from them both. Very strange
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terrance wasn’t even ingesting Psychedelics anymore because he was terrified of Them; yet he spent over a decade pretending he still ingested Psychedelics as he used the Psychedelic’s name to promote himself.
꧁terrance mckenna꧂
was a human terrified to face the Psychedelics, yet is still being used as a tool by the darkness to keep humans AWAY from God.
terrance was terrified of ingesting Psychedelics in any significant amounts anymore for over a decade as he “toured” and gave lectures of gobbledygook while pretending to still ingest God’s Flesh. His own brother outed him for his deception; that caused a “riff” between them - Dennis confronted terrance about his fraud. I doubt most humans would have been so “enamored” with terrance’s nonsensical ramblings were he truthful about the fact that he was terrified to face the Psychedelics anymore as he ranted on with his gobbledygook.
gob·ble·dy·gook
/ˈɡäbəldēˌɡo͞ok/
noun
1. language that is meaningless or is made unintelligible by excessive use of abstruse technical terms; nonsense
“his babblings about Psychedelics are gobbledygook”
Yes, even from his grave terrance is leading humans down the dark path that leads to destruction. A man terrified to ingest Psychedelics declares 5 grams of Psilocybin is a “heroic” dose and many humans believe that foolishness, thus helping in hampering them from seeing Who God is.
A human gets closer to God by purifying their physical body (God’s Temple) and eating larger amounts of their flesh.
terrance never did understand Who the Psychedelics are and thus was unable to follow Their Laws; terrance was never in possession of Their Knowledge, he was always unqualified to be a teacher of God. No human that is not adhering to the Psychedelic’s Laws can stay with Them, not in this life, nor in the Life to come.
All True Psychedelics will confirm these things.
- vincent
“The Light has entered the world, and yet humans have preferred darkness to Light. It is because their actions have been evil; for anyone whose practices are corrupt loathes the Light, and will not come out into Them, in case their actions are exposed. Whereas anyone whose life is true comes out into the Light, to make it plain that their actions have been divinely prompted. (Saint John 3:19)
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@@justthemessengers , dude, you've replied to me elsewhere on YT. I appreciate the thoughts on Terrence. However, you can keep your cult lies, you're quotes, to yourself.
@@justthemessengers you couldn’t even bother to spell his name right? That to me tarnishes your credibility… I love Terence but that being said I know where your coming from, I have listened to weeks worth of his talks and he brushes up on the idea of God but calls it the transcendental other at the end of time or thee attractor force…I think this was his rational scientific mind not being able to comprehend the validity of god in the psychedelic experiences… Terence was a brilliant mind in many different aspects and I hope his soul is at peace
@@justthemessengers Please. Even after he stopped using psychedelics, he was still razor sharp and making great sense. Too bad you can't see past your own belief system (BS) and narrow thinking.
If you have enough of whatever you're taking, you can just keep ramping it up. Summer of 1986, Santa Cruz CA, a few of us were eating LSD and mushrooms like there was no tomorrow. We would ramp up the dosage until we just couldn't get high. We'd take a week off, then repeat that process. But even with just a few repeated high doses, things can get *really* weird, really fast. My friend there, was, unbeknownst to me, calling my parents because she was so concerned that I was never coming back down. Even with a week or so off, I was so far gone, I had permanent residence on the rings of Jupiter.
Tim's Spanish accent/pronunciation reminded me of Rogan saying Pistaaa-chio lol
He lived in Argentina for a couple of years and was a runner up at the Tango World Championship. Amazing accent! 🤓👍🏻👍🏻🍄
1:01:15 it was Aldous Huxley who said that.
Nah, it was Alan Watts.
I remember Watts used to say (paraphrase)" you can use the boat to cross the river, but you should then get out of the boat".
Alan Watts.
It was Alan Watts, who then drank himself to death. Maybe he did it intentionally, but clearly you are still responsible for your own behavior despite what you might "learn" from the chemical
Psil-ah-so-bee? I've heard sil-oh-sigh-bun for decades, and he comes along and single handedly turns that on its heels.
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LSD, DMT, Psilocybin mushrooms, chocolate bars, etc
Ikr? ... and elsewhere he's all:"i don't know if I'm pronouncing this right.."
Psilocybe is the name for a genus of gilled mushroom.
What did get slured at 1:53:24 ?
If I ever make it down there, I will volunteer some of my time to digitize or mount specimens.
This is a difficult idea for me to propose. I understand the moral implications and I truly mean no disrespect. I wonder if it is possible to meet ancestors during a trip/dream/meditation. I think if any two could and would try to communicate with each other, it would be Dennis and Terrence. I'm sorry for saying it, may he rest in peace. I think that even in death he would continue to journey and explore the portal which leads to all places. In this place one could travel within and beyond space and time. He believed. I think the difficult and healing question to ask is if he is there on the other plane of existence looking for us to reach out and have a discussion with perhaps no words.
I journeyed with Terrence 12 months ago. He is definitely out there in hyperspace.
@@glenscholes9213 you've definitely piqued my interest! Please, what happened?
I listen to his lectures as I'm going to sleep. I've met him in the dream space.
@@js9430 may I ask what he said? Was he able to communicate in some interesting way
Just ask to speak to his higher self in meditation:) you can have a meeting with him
Amazing interview! Incredible questions, and of course great insight from Dennis. Nice talk between you both
What a guest!
Obrigado por compartilhar conhecimento crítico e empático...obrigado pela matéria
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1:17:00 last time I tripped it was a huge dose and I got it in my head that everybody else (my roommates) already had the knowledge that I was getting from the mushrooms or the perspective rather. And I was finally catching up to them. But they obvi were off psychedelics and drinkers/smokers and think mushrooms are poison lmao. Like I was tripping hard and chilling in the house acting all crazy and they made me watch the Lorax and my one roommate was like ya bro I seen the Lorax before. So I thought he already got it. That’s another thing that’s happened is me thinking “I got it “ and I’m like ay now I get it. And I think “this kid gets it” those kids don’t get it at all. Like how important and special life is
I've had that same experience, like your consciousness levels up and everyone else is taken over by new spirits that are welcoming you to their dimension...trippy lol
Amazing !!!!!!
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Skip to 5:09
It was Dennis McKennas intent to take grocery bags of mushrooms back with him to sell. If the mushroom doesn’t like your intentions. The mushroom will not appear.
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Months ahead of time…controlling the rains and clouds…hmmm….they knew Dennis was coming…really?
@Tim Ferriss -- Could you tell me how to summon an angel in God's service? I'm just starting my own shamanic journey and wanted some companions along. Thank you for this interesting interview with ol' Dennis.
dude the music in the outro is sick
I'd love to see Jonathan Ott on the show
Yes! He seems to have disappeared.
Mushrooms aren't to be truffled with.
I’ve always wanted to try and buy psilocybin truffles
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„remember how little you know“
good to hear you Dennis
I was looking forward to watch this but you destroyed the vibe with the stupid ads
I wonder if Dennis has had communication with his brother in the afterlife .
Who’d is is ?
Thank you Tim❕
Tim you're great. Dennis is great too:)
The Aztec priests would consume psychedelics, and then perform human sacrifices.
To me this proves it's all in your mind. If there really were other entities involved, the knowledge and wisdom coming from them would council against the efficacy of human sacrifice, or it would council us today to practice it.
There are no other entities when you trip. It's just you, all you baby. Your culture, your nature, your nurture. Alone.
Ok. Well... I've never smoked DMT. Maybe those entities are hyperspace aliens. Maybe. But all I've ever gotten from LSD and psilocin is my own mental contents.
So for me... and I think many other people... it's a self-exploration with no real 'others' involved.
And that's ok. It's still more than one lifetime worth of work.
Smoke it, than we talk.
I’ve had inter
-dimensional experiences on all 3 substances
Ayahuasca is beautiful and amazing!
They can only communicate through what you are willing to perceive. You believe your truth; so it is. Allow room for the perspective that they are in fact entities and you can achieve the separation and increase your intuitive knowing of what is you and what is guiding you.
dmt is on another level,, was no way prepared for what was goin g to happen. One can listen to a year of trip reports, wont prepare someone. Did it , came back, said holy shit I didnt think that was possible.. Its blow your mind stuff.. maybe its all bs,, but I think there is something real about it. lsd visions I knew were bs. some experiences on shrooms , some seemed like real spiritual stuff,, On dmt ,, it all seems real
Great topic
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Ladies and germs 🦠
Where does this weird pronunciation of "psilocybe" come from? Never mind, I found out. It's not Classical Latin, that's for sure.
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Tempted to dislike just cause the first 5 minutes are just ads. At least timestamp it
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This is great content. Fresh and important. Thank you for the enjoyable experience overall.
ate too many apes, hugged my fan for a while.
I didn’t know Yoda was into psychedelics!
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Datura, Toe any tropane type active.... Totally uninteresting..... Nothing profound.
The 'experience' is no more profound, or beneficial than a concussion or Alzheimer's.
Opiates or stimulants have more spirit ally properties than those substances.
Scopolamine is a stupefactant... I had a little bit of Duboisia and felt mildly drunk and dizzy. nothing fun so why would i try it again?
WARNING: Massive fart at 1:14:20
😂😂😂
Terrance is POKING fun at Dennis 😎
5 minuter of constant plugs is most infuriating
50 k! Very inspiring
44:27
Don't vomit - Ayahuasca . Smoke pure synthetic DMT instead.
In the beautiful book, plants of the Gods, by Richard schultes and Albert Hoffman, the first picture in the book, and the biggest picture, is an Opium poppy plant.
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Letting Apartheid come to NYC (and now LA, SF .. ) without a SINGLE word is standing firmly on the wrong side of history.
Enough with the commercials. I turned you off after 4 minutes
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Love the promo advert at the start which is pretty much against the ideas of the McKennas. Pretty disgusting. I’ll watch elsewhere.
Just to clear things up. I dislike because of the intro not because of the podcast
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I feel like Tim needs a 'older' rebrand. But it might just be me
Hope you're ell
what do you mean by that could you tell me more?
@@bohunkjunk2514 look at him he's 45 or something
Please Tim, change that horrible intro and that Fiverr art cover. It’s painful and outdated.
The Shaman is more important than people know. Don't even think about ayahuasca without an expert provider. Seriously! They keep you grounded and can save you during a bad trip. Bad trips on ayahuasca happen sometimes. It can be dangerous.
Would u suggest a shaman during pharmaayusca use. Syrian root seed with oral dmt?
50K fookin ell
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Hi Tim, hope you're doing good. I'm reaching out from Broadband TV because my team is very interested in exploring a strategic partnership with you - I thought I'd try leaving a comment since there is no email listed. Would be great to connect for a quick call or over email next week - please let me know if you get this! Thank you! Julian at BBTV
get in a queue ;D fun aside, I hope he replies
(I thought "are there no better ways to reach Tim?" and "is this invitation is special"
I did ayawasca about 5x in traditional settings. Nothing really happened, I puked of course, but no fantastic colors or vivid realms….quite uncomfortable really….high for sure, but knew where I was..no big teacher thing happened…just sayin
Fascinating, enjoyable discussion. Top quality 🤯👍 thank you
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Brugmansia was named after a Dutch botanist and physician (Sebald Justinus Brugmans) by European botanists. Saying it with a spanish pronunciation is...unnecessary.
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he really loves saying brugmansia
500 plus sessions?!?! That means he’s puked 🤮 over 500 times in his life 🤣. He’s a tough man I tell you that much.
Not a lot people puke, but is always that one guy.
Ayahuasca!
Why would youmake the first question about him meeting another man? That's the stupidest thing ever.
... Beautiful and substantive. Thank you.... let's not forget about opium. The hill tribes of the Golden Triangle have Spirit Gates. The ladies have beautiful headdresses sporting imitation Opium poppy pods.
So profoundly sweet
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annoying voice tone
5 minute ad at the start gets a dislike
Tim wastes more time preparing to ask a question than most others do in actually asking. JFC get on with it dude