History Summarized: The Tragedy of Classical Greece

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @user-cs9sy6zc2i
    @user-cs9sy6zc2i 3 месяца назад +2427

    Blue: I want to focus anywhere but Athens!
    The Owl: *is offscreen maybe 90 seconds total over the length of the video*

    • @OverlySarcasticProductions
      @OverlySarcasticProductions  3 месяца назад +1062

      athenian owl 🤝duolingo owl
      (they are both lovecraftian horrors)

    • @Beutimus
      @Beutimus 3 месяца назад +284

      @@OverlySarcasticProductions oh gods. It's Duo's Ancestor.

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 3 месяца назад +110

      @@Beutimus Where did you THINK it came from? :D

    • @hughjack5066
      @hughjack5066 3 месяца назад +62

      Athens shows up 46 times in the transcript

    • @dumdum5489
      @dumdum5489 3 месяца назад +7

      8:08 8:08 8:08 d

  • @theinspiredgamer1949
    @theinspiredgamer1949 3 месяца назад +1466

    We're slowly building to the 3-hour "Entire History of Ancient Greece" video and I can't wait.

    • @OverlySarcasticProductions
      @OverlySarcasticProductions  3 месяца назад +720

      Wait, wha- me?? Noooo, what makes you say that? 👀

    • @boooksareamazing
      @boooksareamazing 3 месяца назад +80

      Shhh, spoilers, shut up, keep it a secret or else you will be silen…

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 3 месяца назад +116

      @@OverlySarcasticProductions Now I'm looking forward to the 9 hour Entire History of the Mediterranean in a couple years. XD

    • @gloriana__
      @gloriana__ 3 месяца назад +61

      The real question is, 3 Hours of Calling Alexander Anything But The Great when?

    • @bookfanatic8329
      @bookfanatic8329 3 месяца назад +36

      "Greek Shenanigans to Fall Asleep and Study to"

  • @DrakeAurum
    @DrakeAurum 3 месяца назад +846

    Blue: let's talk about anything other than Athens.
    Athens: Still gets mentioned roughly every ten seconds.
    Athens: Is smug.

    • @supershinigami1
      @supershinigami1 3 месяца назад +23

      I guess it's really hard to talk about Greece in that time period without mentioning Athens.

  • @shadowldrago
    @shadowldrago 3 месяца назад +2091

    I love Blue’s ever expanding list of nicknames for Alexander The Twink .

    • @pathfindersavant3988
      @pathfindersavant3988 3 месяца назад +124

      Indeed, everytime he shows up he conquers himself a new sobriquet.

    • @thetiny6482
      @thetiny6482 3 месяца назад +164

      Alexander the pretty ok is my favorite

    • @boooksareamazing
      @boooksareamazing 3 месяца назад +102

      Said the guy’s name once and then never again out of pure spite. I aspire to reach this level of pettiness.

    • @prismus6520
      @prismus6520 3 месяца назад +50

      Alexander the Manlet

    • @els.1689
      @els.1689 3 месяца назад +87

      Alexander Land Expander is excellent.

  • @mayooo345
    @mayooo345 3 месяца назад +681

    ALEXANDER THE LAND EXPANDER IS FIRE‼️‼️‼️

    • @Giaayokaats
      @Giaayokaats 3 месяца назад +30

      It has an especially nice ring to it

    • @Shadow_Glider
      @Shadow_Glider 3 месяца назад +38

      It should actually be Alexander the land rover, Ivan the Terrible was the land expander.

    • @WolfmasterVII
      @WolfmasterVII 3 месяца назад +27

      The Panhellenist from Pella

    • @trla6505
      @trla6505 3 месяца назад +7

      Epic rap Battle saids it

    • @Florjb0rjTheFloorboard
      @Florjb0rjTheFloorboard 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@WolfmasterVII "Hey fella, swell diss..."

  • @markcochrane9523
    @markcochrane9523 3 месяца назад +662

    I'm just sitting here, desperately trying to workshop a Darth Plagueis the Wise joke for this video and then that's how the video ends.

    • @horseenthusiast9903
      @horseenthusiast9903 3 месяца назад +106

      "Is it possible to learn this power?"
      "Not from an Athenian."

    • @ppppppp11111
      @ppppppp11111 3 месяца назад +36

      @@horseenthusiast9903 "Not from a Spartan, either."

    • @Fordo007
      @Fordo007 3 месяца назад +24

      @@ppppppp11111”Or a Theban”

  • @fungusbungus2378
    @fungusbungus2378 3 месяца назад +128

    I found this channel 5 years ago when I was 13. I remember hearing in a stream/video that you guys got into the ancient history field by doing a classics degree in college, which introduced me to that degree. Now, I’m a week away from starting my own classics degree at university. Thank you for all the knowledge and joy you’ve brought.

    • @lisacarpenter3787
      @lisacarpenter3787 3 месяца назад +5

      That's about how long I've been with the show, too. Best accidental find on RUclips so far.

    • @patricialock1862
      @patricialock1862 3 месяца назад +5

      Congratulations!!! Also, good luck in college o7

    • @Snow_Fire_Flame
      @Snow_Fire_Flame 3 месяца назад +4

      I believe Red was actually a mathematics major, not a classics major. (For all that this is obviously a Blue video!)

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 3 месяца назад +538

    Sparta has to be the weirdest society in history. It’s a city state with TWO kings! Also some elements of direct democracy and representative democracy as well as an oligarchy. With women having more freedoms than anywhere else in Greece.
    Alongside of course slavery of an entire people.
    They squashed pretty much every type of political system into one and called it a day.

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 3 месяца назад

      Lawful evil!, but so lawful they fight to protect others from oppression.... so they can be the oppressors.

    • @cooperross9495
      @cooperross9495 3 месяца назад +75

      Considering the slaves were more than half their population AND were horribly treated even by ancient Greek standards, I think that's the part we should focus on. (Also, I doubt all of the enslaved women had more freedoms than anywhere else in Greece.)

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 3 месяца назад +47

      Yeah it's freaking *wild* how sparta governed. And horrifying when you consider what they inflicted on the Helots. :o

    • @User-d6g4s
      @User-d6g4s 3 месяца назад +6

      Lol Spartan women did not have more freedoms.

    • @Inucroft
      @Inucroft 3 месяца назад +55

      @@User-d6g4s realative to other cities, non-Helot women did have better rights *relatively* . Yes their rights were still awful...

  • @kirstenpaff8946
    @kirstenpaff8946 3 месяца назад +207

    Blue: I am going to make a video about Classical Greece that focuses on the parts of Greece outside of Athens.
    Also Blue: Spends 70% of the video talking about Athens.

  • @nunyabiznes7446
    @nunyabiznes7446 3 месяца назад +458

    "To fight big scary empires... we created big scary empires of our own"

    • @VGTc920
      @VGTc920 3 месяца назад +32

      Thou who fights with empires should look that thy wont become the empire

    • @cristhianramirez6939
      @cristhianramirez6939 3 месяца назад +11

      When you are a big scary empire, suddenly, you can fight bigger scarier empires...you can win

    • @raphaelrodriguez8316
      @raphaelrodriguez8316 3 месяца назад

      I hope NATO doesn't turn into a Delian League-style protection racket that makes Europe call Russia and China in to save them from the USA!

    • @alexandergangaware429
      @alexandergangaware429 3 месяца назад +10

      "Quo Custodes Custodiens?"
      -Roman proverb ("Who cleans up after the janitors?")

    • @MrZarathas
      @MrZarathas 3 месяца назад +6

      Mediterranean Rim?

  • @kylehall8760
    @kylehall8760 3 месяца назад +188

    Alexander the Land Expander, Blue, you are killing it

  • @a.morphous66
    @a.morphous66 3 месяца назад +100

    Alexander the Land Expander is by far my favorite entry in this running gag

  • @ryanedgerton9664
    @ryanedgerton9664 3 месяца назад +26

    Nowhere else on the Internet can you settle in to watch a video about ancient Greek history and end up arriving at a clever Star Wars reference by the end. Peak content, 10/10.

  • @emperormegaman3856
    @emperormegaman3856 3 месяца назад +24

    "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Classical Greece?" is exactly what i should have expected of that video

  • @maddiewettach4954
    @maddiewettach4954 3 месяца назад +78

    Persia (watching infighting): I shudder to think how much progress they would make if they put that energy into actually fighting us. Fortunately, that will never happen!

    • @vali6717
      @vali6717 3 месяца назад +9

      Seems to me that Persia's ultimate strategy for Greece was getting them to start squabbling while egging them on until somebody else stepped in to deal with the issue.
      Like a fight in a school hallway until the unpopular kid, (Macedonia) decides to break things up with a steel chair over everyone's head.

  • @EN-Fitz
    @EN-Fitz 3 месяца назад +191

    10:06, “Is it possible to learn this culture?”

    • @tankbuster3
      @tankbuster3 3 месяца назад +53

      “Not from a Roman…”

    • @Sundown42
      @Sundown42 3 месяца назад +39

      "You were sworn to destroy the Greeks, not join them!"

    • @orangetuxedoman
      @orangetuxedoman 3 месяца назад +11

      Why, yes; you r come to the right place, uh I mean... "You, You're the Land Expander! I'm turning you in, then we will see the truth of this."

    • @Midsomnyx
      @Midsomnyx 3 месяца назад +18

      "Culture is a pathway to many practices some consider to be... unnatural."

  • @Caseyuptobat
    @Caseyuptobat 3 месяца назад +232

    The irony in cynically calling Diogenes less important. Comedy gold, Blue.

    • @victoralexandervinkenes9193
      @victoralexandervinkenes9193 3 месяца назад +34

      It's... what he would have wanted, funnily enough

    • @Vinemaple
      @Vinemaple 3 месяца назад +8

      Blue dunking on Diogenes is one of his favorite recurring bits

  • @michaelwellen2866
    @michaelwellen2866 3 месяца назад +10

    The genius of consistently using "red" vs "blue" is underrated here.

  • @NP3GA
    @NP3GA 3 месяца назад +139

    It's interesting that it was ultimately Macedonia that united the Greeks. They were always seen as northern sudo-barabarians, even if they were allowed into the olympic games, there was a lot of looking down upon by the rest of Greece. Yet ironically, they were the reason why Greece had the luxury of even eventing the Polis concept, as it was Macedonia keeping the Balkan barbarians out, which left the rest of Greece free to pursue it's own thing, not to mention that, because of said barbarians, Macedonians were one of the few Greek groups to organised into something bigger than a city.

    • @ΣτελιοςΠεππας
      @ΣτελιοςΠεππας 3 месяца назад +31

      Necessity is what drives both structure and progress. The city state model wasn't possible in the north, so it wasn't implemented.
      That's one of the main points of the video.

    • @bluelfsuma
      @bluelfsuma 3 месяца назад +2

      "Eventing"?
      Did you mean "inventing"?
      Or is that a word I haven't heard before?

    • @harrismisailidis8798
      @harrismisailidis8798 3 месяца назад +12

      Basically a combination of the lack of a city state and the presence of a king is what made the rest of Greece look down on Macedonia but as you said the lack of said city state structure is what allowed to unify Greece and create an empire

    • @PastPresented
      @PastPresented 3 месяца назад +5

      @@bluelfsuma Eventing is an Olympic sport (on horseback, so Alexander would probably have been good at it). May not be relevant in this _exact_ context, but hey ...

    • @Adventeuan
      @Adventeuan Месяц назад +3

      Pseudo-Barbarian?
      They were seen as such only but the Ionians and South Doric Greeks. Epirotes, Thessalians and Doridans saw them as proper Doric Greeks.

  • @murrayscott9546
    @murrayscott9546 3 месяца назад +7

    The spoken-word outro to this presentation while not out-shining Red's dulsatory tones hqs a gravity of its own. Thanks for the synopsis, keep'm comin' !

  • @williwiebe
    @williwiebe 3 месяца назад +12

    I was just thinking about how well this fit with Red's trope talk on saving the world and how the expansion of the world expands the stakes and the Greek world expanding at the loss of the polis... And then I remembered that the Save the World trope talk wasn't the most recent Red video, just the one I rewatched while making breakfast this morning.

  • @elizaripper
    @elizaripper 3 месяца назад +178

    When Blue gets so exhausted from reading about Athens that he decides he wants to read ANYTHING ELSE!…provided it’s still Greece. 🇬🇷💙

  • @Fire157_
    @Fire157_ 3 месяца назад +10

    Lovely video as always! also the Star Wars reference in the end

  • @bbh6212
    @bbh6212 3 месяца назад +40

    One of the many eternal truths of history is that one group's golden age is usually another's tragic collapse.

  • @spartanhawk7637
    @spartanhawk7637 3 месяца назад +14

    Going back through Greek history reminds me of why I became interested in history to begin with. So much of it reads like a legend in its own right that the history is just as entertaining as the myths.

  • @richardiv385
    @richardiv385 3 месяца назад +37

    It’s a shame the Greeks didn’t form a united league in Thebes. You would have thought they would have had the sense and civic knowledge to pull it off rather than a stick measuring contest for who wins the protection racket

  • @Imperial_Lion
    @Imperial_Lion 3 месяца назад +99

    Excuse me blue, but Diogenes peeing on people is the most important part of Athenian culture.

    • @mirjanbouma
      @mirjanbouma 3 месяца назад +8

      Thank you, at least one other person knows what's up.

    • @seancooper6415
      @seancooper6415 3 месяца назад +2

      There were more then a few Roman Emperors who were into that sort of thing.

    • @Canadamus_Prime
      @Canadamus_Prime 3 месяца назад +9

      Not just peeing on people, peeing on RICH people.

  • @ChuJungyin
    @ChuJungyin 3 месяца назад +21

    3:10 Bluetown and Redsville.
    Very on brand. 👍💙❤️

  • @billbobjoekeithbros1200
    @billbobjoekeithbros1200 3 месяца назад +3

    really appreciated how deep and thought out this was. big switch from over the top jokester Blue. not saying i don't think it's entertaining, but for a show with a production as well put together as OSP, sometimes i'm disappointed by the oversimplification of history at the expense of a cheap joke. that did not happen with this video, and i was very pleased.

  • @artsman412
    @artsman412 3 месяца назад +27

    7:49 "The Polis was was"
    Man, don't you just hate typos? Probably not as much as the guy pointing them out. ;)
    Seriously, great video Blue. I also really love the Plagueis spoof at the end.

    • @OverlySarcasticProductions
      @OverlySarcasticProductions  3 месяца назад +26

      brb dying now

    • @artsman412
      @artsman412 3 месяца назад +8

      @@OverlySarcasticProductions NOOO! I killed one of the best History RUclipsrs! Red, quick, revive him!

  • @abthedragon4921
    @abthedragon4921 3 месяца назад +15

    Alexander the Land Expander, OSP does it again with the [insert word here instead of great] nicknames for Alexander! XD

  • @anez1266
    @anez1266 3 месяца назад +22

    Will you listen to him!
    He's making this video sound like some *_Greek tragedy_* 🎭

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 3 месяца назад +30

    Always love to learn more of greece ! Thanks For this 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

  • @sabikikasuko6636
    @sabikikasuko6636 3 месяца назад +4

    "YOU'RE A LAND ROVER, I'M A LAND EXPANDER
    HERE TO HAND YOU YOUR FIRST LOSS, ALEXANDER"

  • @Thanaeon
    @Thanaeon 3 месяца назад +1

    Okay, the speech bubbles were pretty much the best this channel has ever had. :D

  • @AegixDrakan
    @AegixDrakan 3 месяца назад +8

    It's absolute madness how they teamed up, and bulked up to deal with Persia, only to then turn on each other so hard that they broke themselves and the core unit of their civilization.
    Just... Wow. What a mess.

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 3 месяца назад +2

      As though revolutionaries and the like have not been known to engage in power struggle backstabbing after victory had been declared.
      Same principle, different scale.

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 3 месяца назад

      @@artofthepossible7329 Oh yeah, the scale and the fact they just kept decking the leader and didn't utterly flatten their enemies is what boggles my mind.

    • @Adventeuan
      @Adventeuan Месяц назад

      A mess?
      It seems fine. The war was inevitable anyways, Athens was rising so the Dominant power that was the Kingdom of Laconia had to put a stop to it.

  • @TheDjpwn3
    @TheDjpwn3 3 месяца назад +89

    Wow I beat the push notification

    • @blazer1218
      @blazer1218 3 месяца назад +5

      You get push notifications? (But fr youtube pls)

  • @RayanNamii
    @RayanNamii 3 месяца назад

    Currently in my first semester as a history major, largely thanks to this channel! Keep up the awesome work!!

  • @reiningsoral
    @reiningsoral 3 месяца назад

    never in my life did i think i would willingly sit still and listen to a history lesson but time and time again i am proved wrong

  • @herbertkeithmiller
    @herbertkeithmiller 3 месяца назад +3

    5:50 A foreign enemy paying to cause trouble in it's rival to weaken it from the inside. Huh? Where have I seen this recently?

  • @kentlorenz5032
    @kentlorenz5032 3 месяца назад +9

    Malaka! Great summary and love the AC Odyssey music in the background. Awesome content!

  • @gillianjohnson1122
    @gillianjohnson1122 3 месяца назад

    Blue this video was wonderful. Thank you and Red for continuing to create inspiring videos that I do watch over and over

  • @Canadamus_Prime
    @Canadamus_Prime 3 месяца назад +1

    I see what you did there with the end credits. Bravo, Blue.

  • @fireyjon
    @fireyjon 3 месяца назад +7

    Good stuff! Also I admire Blue's dedication to never calling Alexander the Pretty Alright by his actual historical title.

  • @xwiry
    @xwiry 3 месяца назад

    Blue, thank you so much for ending this with exactly what I thought when this popped up in my notifications this morning.

  • @The_Phantasm
    @The_Phantasm 3 месяца назад +1

    Speaking of which, hello from Greece! Love your videos.

  • @clarekrmiller
    @clarekrmiller 3 месяца назад +1

    I am simply astonished that anyone would think you would trash any wood that might possibly be usable in any way.
    Also, I love Phil’s space corgi shirt!

  • @OmegaTaishu
    @OmegaTaishu 3 месяца назад +3

    That does give a nice set up for Alexander the Culturespreader

  • @Vinemaple
    @Vinemaple 3 месяца назад

    This video is an absolute banger, Blue! Every time I had to pause it to read text onscreen it was more than worth it! I'm also just a sucker for this kind of historical contextualization.
    While I'm making a fan comment, I'd like to add that until yesterday I thought you were full of crap about Thai food getting more flavor when you add more heat... but last night I accidentally ordered see ew with no heat, and got to experience the phenomenon for myself, pepper flake by pepper flake. That is truly fascinating and now I desperately want to understand, HOW.

  • @wee3ist
    @wee3ist 3 месяца назад

    I love this format! Would be interesting to see a video like this about the time of the roman republic looking at anywhere but rome. The messy near east was a lot.

  • @mariamehaddad
    @mariamehaddad Месяц назад

    You are awesome. Thanks for making history fun!

  • @dorkatarmsetcetera9468
    @dorkatarmsetcetera9468 3 месяца назад +1

    "alexander the land expander" is just a great line

  • @gusmorgan9695
    @gusmorgan9695 3 месяца назад +5

    "Alexander the Land Expander" killed me!

  • @rampage75_25
    @rampage75_25 3 месяца назад +14

    After several months i return to ask for a view into abrahamitic mythology around demons, devils and angels. You made some amazing takes on Paradise Lost, and i really loved your take on Dantes Inferno. I would love to see what you make out of the dark lords, PLEASE i beg you!

  • @Rohanperemperm
    @Rohanperemperm 3 месяца назад +5

    I always thought that Alexander was a Land Rover, compare to Ivan IV who was a Land Expander.

    • @20dun
      @20dun 3 месяца назад

      I also thought about the epic rap battles. Had to rewatch it afterwards. still 🔥

  • @devashiawasthi1851
    @devashiawasthi1851 3 месяца назад +1

    The Athens owl is the forerunner to that Duolingo one 🦉. The bird is everywhere.

  • @dinomcq8
    @dinomcq8 3 месяца назад +15

    Is it possible to learn this history?

    • @OverlySarcasticProductions
      @OverlySarcasticProductions  3 месяца назад +23

      Not from an Athenian...

    • @danukil7703
      @danukil7703 3 месяца назад +8

      @@OverlySarcasticProductions I've just learned a terrible truth. I think Historian Blue is an Aegean Lord

    • @mobgabriel1767
      @mobgabriel1767 3 месяца назад +6

      @@danukil7703 an aegean lord?

    • @danukil7703
      @danukil7703 3 месяца назад +8

      @@mobgabriel1767 Yes, the one we've been looking for. He knows the ways of empire. He's been trained to view beyond the polis.

    • @mobgabriel1767
      @mobgabriel1767 3 месяца назад +5

      @@danukil7703 are you sure?

  • @FuzzyStripetail
    @FuzzyStripetail 3 месяца назад +3

    I wonder if Bluetown and Redsville ultimately provoked Blue and Red to wage war against each other probably over who got possession over that iconic red chair that often appeared in their videos.

  • @twincast2005
    @twincast2005 3 месяца назад +2

    6:30 Thebes ❤

  • @Nara.Shikamaru
    @Nara.Shikamaru 3 месяца назад

    I WAS JUST THINKING I WANTED A NEW BLUE VIDEO ABOUT GREECE. THE MAN DELIVERS!!!

  • @johnburnside7828
    @johnburnside7828 3 месяца назад

    You just get better and better, Blue!

  • @Azerinth
    @Azerinth 3 месяца назад +2

    7:00 this reminds me of Pope Fights 3: the Italian Wars.

  • @TaeSunWoo
    @TaeSunWoo 3 месяца назад +2

    Blue knows how to bring me back. (Smokes that Egyptian-Greco-Roman pack)

  • @snakelord2234
    @snakelord2234 3 месяца назад +2

    Yes a new blue video!!!!! Idc what it's about blue makes the BEST history videos ever!

  • @Loreweavver
    @Loreweavver 3 месяца назад +2

    The older one gets the more one comes to accept that Diogenes may have been the most important.
    Come back to this in 20-30 years.

  • @orangetuxedoman
    @orangetuxedoman Месяц назад

    I simply cannot get enough of Blue spending the whole let's not talk about Athens show talking about Athens, I know other people have said it, I just wanted to say It too, Good Joke, Great History, Best Joke at the end, so fun, Keep Winning!

  • @phastinemoon
    @phastinemoon 3 месяца назад +1

    Oh. I remember this!
    From the Thebes minisode from the early days!

  • @craftynerdybookish
    @craftynerdybookish 3 месяца назад +1

    When I was in high school, we had a tournament to debate who was the most influential person in history (our teacher gave us our assignments, I came in 4th with King Tut’s dad) and every time I hear Blue’s nicknames for Alexander, I wish he was in my class (you would’ve won)

  • @ItsaLaz
    @ItsaLaz 3 месяца назад +2

    "See the Persians were thrilled to finance Greece’s inter-state slap-fights and keep the heat off themselves. No need to conquer the Greeks so long as they were constantly squabbling."
    Seems familiar.

  • @rfactor1502
    @rfactor1502 3 месяца назад

    Darth Blue the wise finding ways to do history summaries and prequel memes in but one twisting of a quotation.

  • @legateelizabeth
    @legateelizabeth 3 месяца назад +1

    Fun fact about the Battle of Marathon: it was won in part due to total brazenness on the part of Athens.
    Once the two sides had set up, Athens was hugely outnumbered, outgunned, and out-flanked by horses. The Persians expected a pitched battle, similar to what they'd encountered before from Greeks. What happened instead was that the Athenians were ordered by their general simply to "charge", and ran full-tilt at the Persians, with levels of true preparation, preparedness or formation unclear to modern historians. By the time the Persians even really realised what was going on, the Athenians were already on them, because _who does that?!_
    The best part is, Herodotus records that this was the first time that Greeks had ever seen anyone dressed as a Persian, and that if they had KNOWN they were Persians, would probably have been much more cautious. I'm not saying that Athens ACCIDENTALLY won the Battle of Marathon, but it definitely wasn't from clever tactics, sound consideration or brilliant leadership.
    You find a lot of battles in the resulting Peloppoesian War end with "and then the general ordered a charge and everyone died", very rarely a sound tactical decision. I leave it up to you to determine why that might be.

  • @adelinaiftime3152
    @adelinaiftime3152 3 месяца назад +19

    time for the weekly bus ride osp video fuck yea

  • @BalthusHomewood
    @BalthusHomewood 3 месяца назад +1

    2:28 So Sparta is playing the part of Wolverine in that stackup, yeah? 😅

  • @orangetuxedoman
    @orangetuxedoman 3 месяца назад +1

    Blue's Falls of Rome starting in Athens.
    A classic move by Blue.

  • @YiannissB.
    @YiannissB. 3 месяца назад

    6:46 THIS! thank you Blue!
    What people miss about Sparta is that they were outsiders, invaders from the north who conquered the south of the Peloponnese, always a minority among their new subjects. As a Messenian myself I cringe at people praising Spartan exploits as if their soldiers were supermen without even considering they stood on the backs of their slave labor. Spartan citizens made great soldiers precisely because one of them had about 7 Helotes taking care of his needs.
    And that's why the victory of Theban General over the Spartan army was so important• it was rare to happen in the first place (though Spartans did lose at times, check Sphacteria), but the important one was that Epaminondas freed the slaves, after centuries of oppression and revolts. From then on the spartan society could Ill afford to hold their military drills ("agoge") to past standards. They actually needed to work and feed themselves!

  • @domocan6877
    @domocan6877 3 месяца назад +4

    Ever think about doing a video about the under represented Anatolian Greek city states?
    Everyone knows Athens, tiktok will let others know about Thebes. But those on the other side of the Aegean feel perpetually under discussed and often ignored when people think of the Ancient Greek world.

    • @erp1293
      @erp1293 3 месяца назад +1

      Ephesus, Priene, Miletus, Trapezous aka Trebizond.... Also outside of modern Greece in Sicily, Syracuse, home of Archimedes. Or a bit further afield, Marseilles.

  • @Shadowreaper5
    @Shadowreaper5 3 месяца назад

    The end monologue is top tier

  • @peggyliepmann5248
    @peggyliepmann5248 3 месяца назад +10

    I would argue that bringing up Diogenes The Cynic in relation to Athens' ego is always the most important.

  • @St.Ellachick
    @St.Ellachick 3 месяца назад

    I loved prequel reffrence at the end

  • @John_Weiss
    @John_Weiss 3 месяца назад +1

    A major problem appears to be that most of the surviving writing we have is _from_ and _about _*_Athens._* Which is, of course, why everything is so slanted towards Athens.
    I wonder what surviving historical records that Iran may have from 2500 years ago say about the Greek polises.

  • @Litchert
    @Litchert 3 месяца назад +1

    I'd argue Diogenes actions is the most important from the list

  • @caterinagargiulo
    @caterinagargiulo 3 месяца назад

    This is amazing and I love it

  • @mcintoshpc
    @mcintoshpc 3 месяца назад +2

    Ayo who need they land expanded 😳😳

  • @riccardoraimondi4468
    @riccardoraimondi4468 3 месяца назад

    Please make a video about Liutprand of Cremona, he's the most hilarious bishop from the high middle ages and maybe the best AND worst source for the feudal Anarchy in Italy from 888 to 960

  • @allelon8284
    @allelon8284 3 месяца назад

    I was casually enjoying my meal when Blue started the Darth Plagueis the Wise joke and I had a coughing/laughing fit most severe... Great joke, Blue

  • @theoptimisticmetalhead7787
    @theoptimisticmetalhead7787 3 месяца назад

    Omg I HOLLERED at Alexander the Land Expander. Wonderful

  • @PolarBear_Gaming_More
    @PolarBear_Gaming_More 3 месяца назад

    Great job blue. very fun

  • @grayrook8637
    @grayrook8637 3 месяца назад +9

    Good start of balancing the Athens centric karma. Now lets go slightly further and make another on why Persia is sort of excellent on the historical stage.

  • @ArchArturo
    @ArchArturo 3 месяца назад +4

    Rome: “hmm, what if Greece, but Roman?”

  • @telivan776
    @telivan776 Месяц назад

    You guys should cover the Kalevala at some point, it's the finnish national epic and is credited with inspiring the character of Gandalf

  • @Yacovo
    @Yacovo 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video

  • @sheleavitt06
    @sheleavitt06 3 месяца назад

    Alexander “the land expander” is my new favorite epitaph 😂

  • @Boss_Isaac
    @Boss_Isaac 3 месяца назад +4

    _“So to understand Classical Greece as more than the 170-year long Athenian Power Hour.”_ (0:58) Such blasphemy will not be tolerated Blue, your Certified Hellenist™. card is hereby revoked xD.

  • @CrazyGamerDragon64
    @CrazyGamerDragon64 3 месяца назад

    10:05 great outro

  • @TenkoBerry
    @TenkoBerry 3 месяца назад

    This is Great 👍

  • @auroraofclanborealis
    @auroraofclanborealis 3 месяца назад +1

    To fuel my- I mean, your Hellenic hyperfixation, I think it'd be cool if you talked about Greek civilization outside of Greece. I feel like no one talks much about the colonies across the Mediterraian and Black sea.

  • @geovaggos7562
    @geovaggos7562 3 месяца назад +1

    So did Blue came to the same conclusion for the Collapse of the Polis system as with the Bronze Age Collapse in Greece or am i reading too much into it?? If it is the same that is truly poetic

  • @unoriginalusername1815
    @unoriginalusername1815 3 месяца назад

    I hope you make video about greek mythology in modern media especially book fantasy like percy jackson and expanded myth like the book circe

  • @daveswort
    @daveswort 3 месяца назад

    When are you going to organize guided tours of greece with a bunch of subscribers? Because i’d be down for it

  • @silverraigirideviluke
    @silverraigirideviluke 3 месяца назад +1

    Blue: "I dont wanna talk about athens this time."
    >half the video is about athens anyway.