You are most welcome. If you do end up getting an AR-10 from BCA please let me know. I have several friends who have AR-15's from BCA but no AR-10's. I have also been thinking about getting an AR-10 from BCA.
@@brutalwarpigYes Sir. One of my friends just got an AR 10 , 308 from Bear Creek and it looks very nice. All he has is the upper right now waiting on the lower but the upper looks very nice. We hope to shoot his soon, I am really looking at Bear Creek I like what I see.
I used to have a LaRue Tactical PredatOBR 7.62 whis is a high end .308 AR-10. So I hope, by comparison, I'm not disappointed. With a BCA AR-10. I recently purchased a .300 Blackout BCA upper (I made a video on that one too as well as a .224 Valkyrie). The rifling, fit and finish on the 300Blk. is even better than previous BCA uppers I've purchased. So I bet the AR-10 will be awesome. I have 2 suppressors currently in jail that I'll be making videos on soon. One is a Liberty Suppressors Amendment 7.62/multi caliber and the other is a AB Suppressors F22 Raptor 8 7.62 with a 3 inch reflex attachment. The Amendment is a mono-core suppressor and the Raptor is a very interesting spiraling baffle high end suppressor. I'm very curious about the back pressure and blow-back and generally how they will run on my various BCA rifles.
I have an 18 inch 1:8 twist heavy barrel Stainless steel and it shoots a wide variety of ammo well but my favorite is the 77 gr OTM from Sig. BCA is a legit brand
You need to leave the copper in the barrel don't clean the copper out. The copper equilibrium inside your Barrel is very important don't ever scrub the copper out
SOME of the more expensive brand barrels are lead lapped which gives them that mirror finish you spoke of. However a good machinist can fairly easily work most metals and leave no chatter marks at all. I have a 24" BCA AR15 heavy barrel that didn't have any chatter marks at all in the bore. I actually talked to their customer service representative about this fact. I was told that they have a few CNC rifling/boring machines that will produce very clean and smooth bores on the first few barrels they cut when they change out the cutters in the machine. That said, even my custom built and lead lapped bolt gun barrels benefit from the right amount of copper fouling.
@@brutalwarpig well the one bca I tried had machine marks from hell and the chamber was rougher then wiping your ass with sand paper and shot terrible. So I moved on to lothar walther barrels and it shoots .2 groups all day long …… hand lapped and quality chambered……. You get what you pay for and thats life in general. My other friend has a bca bcg and it has tool marks galore oh and open your dust cover and look in the top left corner of it, you can see into the action…… not good craftsmanship imo.
To be fair I got one other barrel from them when they had a free barrel giveaway a couple years ago and it was pretty bad. Some people say that they used to have bad quality control but have since improved or maybe I just got lucky. My other AR barrels are Odin Works and J.P. Enterprises. The J.P. is the carbon fiber wrapped 18 inch .223 Wylde and it's a work of art!
Bear Creek is making some great affordable barrels & complete uppers. Early on, they had some QC issues, but looks like now they are putting out quality stuff.
I just built a 224 Valkyrie using A BCA 24 inch stainless heavy barrel, Black Aura Tactical matched upper and lower, Fail Zero nickel boron BCG and Timney adjustable trigger. I'm still working on load development and this barrel won't be at it's best for another few hundred rounds but right now using 82 grain Bergers and CFE 223 I'm shooting right at the 1 m.o.a. mark at 1000 yards with a surprisingly fast 1320 fps at the 1000 yard mark. If this barrel is anything like my BCA .223 Wylde it will tighten up around .2 to .3 m.o.a. after a few hundred rounds.
No actually I've only ever had issue with short stroking when I failed to align the gas hole and gas block or once when I used this crap .223 ammo from Red Army. I've heard if you use a rifle length gas tube that you need a longer barrel to build adequate pressure once the round is past the gas hole. Plus the added weight reduces recoil. Also when suppressed the overgassing isn't bad.
@@HookLine48 I'm not really sure. I would think a carbine length gas system is appropriate for a 16"barrel because of the dwell time the round is in the barrel once past the gas hole. Mid length for 18" and rifle length for 20 inch. In each case the dwell time is about the same because the length of barrel past the gas hole is about the same. I play around with this stuff but I'm no armorer
I shoot a lot of that Red Army Standard ammo, mainly in my AR pistol (10.5" barrel/carbine gas), I have never had any short stroking or any issues other than that primer sealant gunk getting all over the bokt face.
@@toddk1377 I've got 15 boxes of that red army FJBT ball .223 ammo and it won't cycle the bolt back far enough to feed another round half the time unless I use a suppressor. I don't like Red Army .223 at all. I started loading my own ammo a while back and now even Hornady Match or superformance is not as accurate as what I load myself.
I've thought about building a Grendel with a JP Enterprises carbon fiber pencil barrel and use all the ultra light components I could to make as light a rig as possible.
I'm certainly no expert but I bought both the original rifle (which was a standard DPMS Oracle) and the BCA .223 Wylde barrel new. So I have the paperwork, packaging etc. The owners manual for the Oracle lists the barrel as 16" nitride finish and the BCA invoice says "parkerized". The Oracle barrel has an almost fine grit sandpaper texture while The BCA barrel has a much smoother and less "flat" black finish
Thank you for the information Sir. I have been looking at Bear Creek thinking about getting a 308 AR 10 upper.
You are most welcome. If you do end up getting an AR-10 from BCA please let me know. I have several friends who have AR-15's from BCA but no AR-10's. I have also been thinking about getting an AR-10 from BCA.
@@brutalwarpigYes Sir. One of my friends just got an AR 10 , 308 from Bear Creek and it looks very nice. All he has is the upper right now waiting on the lower but the upper looks very nice. We hope to shoot his soon, I am really looking at Bear Creek I like what I see.
I used to have a LaRue Tactical PredatOBR 7.62 whis is a high end .308 AR-10. So I hope, by comparison, I'm not disappointed. With a BCA AR-10. I recently purchased a .300 Blackout BCA upper (I made a video on that one too as well as a .224 Valkyrie). The rifling, fit and finish on the 300Blk. is even better than previous BCA uppers I've purchased. So I bet the AR-10 will be awesome. I have 2 suppressors currently in jail that I'll be making videos on soon. One is a Liberty Suppressors Amendment 7.62/multi caliber and the other is a AB Suppressors F22 Raptor 8 7.62 with a 3 inch reflex attachment. The Amendment is a mono-core suppressor and the Raptor is a very interesting spiraling baffle high end suppressor. I'm very curious about the back pressure and blow-back and generally how they will run on my various BCA rifles.
I have an 18 inch 1:8 twist heavy barrel Stainless steel and it shoots a wide variety of ammo well but my favorite is the 77 gr OTM from Sig. BCA is a legit brand
You need to leave the copper in the barrel don't clean the copper out. The copper equilibrium inside your Barrel is very important don't ever scrub the copper out
Yeah I read an article about the necessity of a certain amount of copper fouling being beneficial to accuracy.
Budget barrels need about 100 rds to copper up all the machine and chatter marks, quality ones dont they are a mirror finish out the box 👍🏻
SOME of the more expensive brand barrels are lead lapped which gives them that mirror finish you spoke of. However a good machinist can fairly easily work most metals and leave no chatter marks at all. I have a 24" BCA AR15 heavy barrel that didn't have any chatter marks at all in the bore. I actually talked to their customer service representative about this fact. I was told that they have a few CNC rifling/boring machines that will produce very clean and smooth bores on the first few barrels they cut when they change out the cutters in the machine. That said, even my custom built and lead lapped bolt gun barrels benefit from the right amount of copper fouling.
@@brutalwarpig well the one bca I tried had machine marks from hell and the chamber was rougher then wiping your ass with sand paper and shot terrible. So I moved on to lothar walther barrels and it shoots .2 groups all day long …… hand lapped and quality chambered……. You get what you pay for and thats life in general. My other friend has a bca bcg and it has tool marks galore oh and open your dust cover and look in the top left corner of it, you can see into the action…… not good craftsmanship imo.
To be fair I got one other barrel from them when they had a free barrel giveaway a couple years ago and it was pretty bad. Some people say that they used to have bad quality control but have since improved or maybe I just got lucky. My other AR barrels are Odin Works and J.P. Enterprises. The J.P. is the carbon fiber wrapped 18 inch .223 Wylde and it's a work of art!
Bear Creek is making some great affordable barrels & complete uppers. Early on, they had some QC issues, but looks like now they are putting out quality stuff.
I just built a 224 Valkyrie using A BCA 24 inch stainless heavy barrel, Black Aura Tactical matched upper and lower, Fail Zero nickel boron BCG and Timney adjustable trigger. I'm still working on load development and this barrel won't be at it's best for another few hundred rounds but right now using 82 grain Bergers and CFE 223 I'm shooting right at the 1 m.o.a. mark at 1000 yards with a surprisingly fast 1320 fps at the 1000 yard mark. If this barrel is anything like my BCA .223 Wylde it will tighten up around .2 to .3 m.o.a. after a few hundred rounds.
Good review , I have a 5,56 heavy barrel from BCA and it shoots fine too .
Thanks I have a BXA 6.5 Grendel I just built and will make a video for it soon
I’m gonna get the side charging version of this. Good idea or not?
Do you think .223wlyde or .556 is better?
@@dsrrecordsent I can't say , I've always went with the 5.56
What hand grip Is that
Believe it or not it's a cheap UTG. Here's a link
www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-ar15-m16-ergonomic-combat-sniper-pistol-polymer-hand-grip.html
@@brutalwarpig thank you
@@joerodriguez2832 yes sir, you are most welcome.
I have the Leatherwood, same scope on a heavy 20" barrel. It's not as clear when you get out to ×24
True but For the money I think it's a good scope. I don't know of any other scopes in that price range with Japanese glass.
Ever experience "short stroking" because of the 20in barrel rifle length gas tube and carbine length buffer tube by chance?
No actually I've only ever had issue with short stroking when I failed to align the gas hole and gas block or once when I used this crap .223 ammo from Red Army. I've heard if you use a rifle length gas tube that you need a longer barrel to build adequate pressure once the round is past the gas hole. Plus the added weight reduces recoil. Also when suppressed the overgassing isn't bad.
Dana Crouch So it wouldn’t be good to put a carbine length gas system on a rifle buffer spring and tube in an a2 stock?
@@HookLine48 I'm not really sure. I would think a carbine length gas system is appropriate for a 16"barrel because of the dwell time the round is in the barrel once past the gas hole. Mid length for 18" and rifle length for 20 inch. In each case the dwell time is about the same because the length of barrel past the gas hole is about the same. I play around with this stuff but I'm no armorer
I shoot a lot of that Red Army Standard ammo, mainly in my AR pistol (10.5" barrel/carbine gas), I have never had any short stroking or any issues other than that primer sealant gunk getting all over the bokt face.
@@toddk1377 I've got 15 boxes of that red army FJBT ball .223 ammo and it won't cycle the bolt back far enough to feed another round half the time unless I use a suppressor. I don't like Red Army .223 at all. I started loading my own ammo a while back and now even Hornady Match or superformance is not as accurate as what I load myself.
Sweet rig. ...i love that grip
Thanks! I've been very happy with it. That's a generic grip I bought for $12 on the "Wish" website.
The 16" lightweight barrel must have been nice to carry.?
I've thought about building a Grendel with a JP Enterprises carbon fiber pencil barrel and use all the ultra light components I could to make as light a rig as possible.
If it's hitting 1in at 100 than it should be hitting 5in at 500.
My barrel barely keeps a 5 inch group at 100 yards with lead sled...
Hello! What brand magazine is that?
It used to be moore machining and they made shit bca is a little better, for what you pay you get a lot tho! Great build
Based on how you described it, I belive the DPMS barrel has a phosphate finish and the BCA is nitride.
I'm certainly no expert but I bought both the original rifle (which was a standard DPMS Oracle) and the BCA .223 Wylde barrel new. So I have the paperwork, packaging etc. The owners manual for the Oracle lists the barrel as 16" nitride finish and the BCA invoice says "parkerized". The Oracle barrel has an almost fine grit sandpaper texture while The BCA barrel has a much smoother and less "flat" black finish
They both are parked I promise, for the price of dpms you aint gettn no nitride……. Neither are
Its a “commercial” buffer tube not mil spec
comercial tube
Thanks
The 60 to 70 grs bullets will be your best. 70 gr will probably be the better.
I'm literally sitting at my loading bench working up 75g Hornady ELD Match loads right now. I will post results when I'm done with testing.
Probably a good video and review, but please Bro, keep the camera steady,,, it keeps bouncing all over the place, makes me dissy...
Commercial spec buffer tube