Deep Tillage - John Deere 8235R & 5 Shank V-Ripper
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2016
- Today we use a V-Ripper from Dad's cousin to break up the hard pan at the main farm. The 4640 had plenty of horsepower, but not quite enough traction.
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I wish videos like this one were longer. They are so relaxing... Great job :)
Yah, music and video was pleasing, your right could have been longer.
+How farms work its called a subsoiler
Great video and what a beautiful John Deere 8235R !
Great video. Really enjoy watching your Dad.
Fabulous video thankyou could watch it for ever ❤👍👍🇬🇧🏴
Ryan..great camera work..editing and music joining is excellent too..you also made me miss fall weather...Have a great Holiday Season!
We just got our own 8235r the 24th of August and love it so far bought it at a farm auction. Couple minor issues with is but from what we’ve heard normal ones for the r’s but can’t wait to use it during wheat planting. Upgraded from an 8130.
Nice to see Dad in the 82 for a change.
Nice video! I enjoy watching them and seeing your farm equipment in action. Good luck and I hope it helps your yields for next years crop
This is a great video to see. I don't think enough acknowledge me goes to soil compaction, especially with big machinery and/or high levels of traffic. Kudos to you and your crew for taking the time to relieve that and thanks for a great video! It would have been nice to hear the old girl grunting her way through it though.
another great video ryan. keep up the good work and have a fantastic hoiday season
the john deere 2100 7 shank ripper i use does a great job breaking up the hard pan and helps with drainage i use 8130 to haul it
I used to have a 7 shank back in the 70's and 80's. You have the upper link too short making the outside more shallow. If you check the furrow and allow for loose soil you can measure for real.
In a V configuration, they're easier to pull as opposed to straight, what it does need though is wings on the bottom on either side of the points, which then lifts & breaks the subsoil, but saying that, you may struggle to pull 5 legs with that tractor depending how compacted the land is.
its kool watchin the boss man hard at it.merry x mas and ahappy new year.
your dad looks like he really knows how to drive that!!
My favourite view of seeing the Deere work.
I think that ripper will help you a lot next year. breaking that hardpan will be a huge help!
Merry Christmas Ryan and your family
now that's true vertical tillage & definitely worth while.
I hope you and you're family are safe. The weather must be bad take care I will pray for you and you're. Yes love your video.
Nice quality video.
For going almost 2 ft in the gourd that tractor was cranking right along that ripper looked so small compared to the tractor. Great video keep them up!!!!!
At least you put the ripper in the ground. Most farmers only run them 8 inches deep.
The fact that you needed such a big tractor to pull 5 rippers tells us how hard that soil is. Plants should be smiling now.
Should be a great improvement. 82r looks good in action.
We use a 7 shank 2100 John Deere ripper on a 8335r at 18-20 inches deep. It pulls kind of hard but our sandy soil turns to concrete pretty much in a dry spell
Really enjoyed this one Ryan...the visual results of the ripping were really obvious, and made for some epic aerial footage, which I really enjoyed. Nicely done!! and that music was really nice...got a source for it? Got some aerial footage I shot that would go well with that....
It looks if that JD can do with a bigger ripper, nice video.
Jan Kotze not if they ran it correctly. You can tell they are ripping incorrectly because of just how fast that tractor is running. I would be surprised if they are getting 10"-12" into the ground. Gauge wheels should be removed allowing the Ripper frame to be just a few inches above the ground.
Looks like it's getting the job done I'm not an expect but I don't think they want the ripper dragging the ground.. but hey your the expert @@wadewalker6231
@@anthonyg4207 But hey, ya I an Expert. I have years of experience running heavy equipment. If you are going to spend the time, the money, manpower and effort to deep rip then you should put all of the shank in the ground not just half of it. Especially if it has not been ripped in years or ever...
@@wadewalker6231 You are right. They were ripping waaaay too fast. He puts a tape measure on it showing 21 inches of total ripper length. It looked like maybe 1/2 of that was in the ground. He was also making some pretty tight turns and you can see the center ripper bent from maybe that. If he was doing this right, the speed should have been half of what was shown and the ripper frame practically touching the ground. In a hurry.
One day I want to see you get a ripper system that rips in front of your rows as you plant. It can be done and your 8235r will pull it. I've seen it here in Georgia and the farmer was planting 12 rows.
you mean a strip till
very nice video !! Here in Brazil we use a 130hp tractor to pull an implement like this!
Maybe run the Earthmaster 3000 over fields to break up the clumps and flow the field? Where the V-ripper ran ground looks rich.
awesome vid
I understand the idea behind this and believe it is sound. What is your next step to be ? I can see several avenues to go down, just not sure what you folks will be doing.
Nice video-nice ripper- have a nice day :)
Nice vid ryan
did not expect him to be going that fast with that thing. For how deep it goes i assumed he would be creeping along but that's not too bad actually
they till that ground every year so it helps lessen the upper layer of compaction
very very nice video
+How Farms Work can you do a video showing how to attach a header to the combine?
Basically the same thing as a strip till rig only ours, a six row is directly under the row and the planter is either hooked direcltly to the rig or pulled along behind...One pass. gives a case Ih 8950 all it wants.....
I spent my summers on the - now defunct - family farm, and have had a soft spot for farming and farmers ever since (to the point that I spend obscene amounts of time in Farming Sim and other similar games), and your videos always make me happy and relaxed. Except perhaps when you weren't sure if you were going to make enough to pay off your loan, but I really appreciate hearing about those details too. Can't stop watching, so don't stop posting :).
Question: Is there a technical reason for using subsoilers, rippers and various tillers, rather than more "traditional" (moldboard) ploughs? I'm obviously not up to date on modern farming techniques, but I'm curious as to why this seems to have changed since I was a kid.
here in Georgia I pulled a 7ripper with a Fordtw35
Ryan, one thing we don't talk about much is tile. Is there much tiled ground in your area, or is there not much benefit. Here (SW ONT.) nearly every acre is tiled. some better than others but constantly upgrading old clay tile with new plastic and closer together. My farm is kinda rolly-polly for SW ont. but some of my older tile are not 21 inches deep. You can tell your in an area with good natural drainage because you will not see many ditches. A systematically tiled farm needs an outlet, that's why we have wall to wall ditches. Wise farmers here say "You pay for tile whether you have them or not " meaning loss of yield more then pays for a tile loan. Tell us clay farmers about tile in your area. I wish I had your soil. KIT doug
Thanks John, I will.
did you brake a bolt of the center one
Now that is vertical tillage I believe that is the best way to ground
in holland we do this every year
wheres all the snow ? I live nearby and we've had like 3 snowstorms lol.
would using a deep plow produce a different out come other then higher fuel usage and flipping the soil completely over
should do well to hold more water over the winter.
after ripping or plowing do you notice any big increase in water usage? or same water higher yield? what about nutrient supplements absorption?
I wonder what their yields were on the ground that was ripped as apposed to any of their ground that was not ripped....?
Can you do a video explaining the difference between cultivating, discing, plowing, chiseling, and ripping?
it looks like you could add two more shanks to the ripper
What do you think you grandfather would say if he saw and drove the 8235R
Slow that tractor down, the top link needs leveling to pull an even depth of shatter across the ripper. Out here in California, we rip every year, every field down nearly 36”, so we’ve become very acclimated to how it’s gotta be done for our type of crops and their response to ripping.
Do you have a drainage system in the fields? If so, is the drainage system at a depth lower than the ripper can reach?
so the 8235's wheel setup was changed? looks different, narrower? :)
You need to get the auto steer and that rag and if you do get to 2630 series screen
Northern Farmer says it's about 12k to set up GPS
Im Curious on how the 4640 didn't have enough traction. Here in Oklahoma we pull a Deere 7 shank V ripper to the frame basically with a 4450 2wd. In virgin hard ground it pulled the front end off the ground before it spun out, but conditions vary quite a bit. As always nice video Baxter
Isn't their 4640 a two wheel drive? I guess they had more wheel slip than they liked with the 46.
Baxter Hudson probably their hills without the 4wd one spot in the video you see it slow down quite a bit going up a hill, I'm guessing in Oklahoma your pretty flat compared
Nice seeing some
Deere in action compared to the alien ship new holland, maybe you need to put that receiver on the 8235r and play with the auto steer more just to compare it more
What would happen if you had you or Ryan discing behind the ripper...softening up the soil and then a cultipacker behind the disc just to prevent the soil blowing away
how farms work what do you use for your cow beddings?
Ok thanks
Here in the UK the fields are ploughed every year to turn over the top part of the soil. This is then harrowed down before planting. Is there a reason you do not do this in the US?
Hi Ryan great video again, I was just wondering if I could email you or snapchat you and get some advice on making videos as I was thinking of getting a go pro thanks
it would look good if you had the New Holland tractor you should be pulling a 7ripper
1:56.....is your dad giving you a thumbs up, or the bird?
Did that deep tillage end up helping? Did it get rid of the hard-pan and help root establishment of the next year's crop (corn?)?
I think so. I’ve been noticing that the corn hasn’t been lodging so bad in recent years
@@HowFarmsWork That is good to hear. I grew 130 acres of popcorn this year at my farm in Princeton, Kansas. My seed breeder came to visit from Nebraska. He mentioned that I ought to do deep tillage to help with root penetration. He pointed out some that went lateral.... and eventually logged. His advise made sense so I went to RUclips to watch videos and found yours. Good feedback. =)
the ripper is only down 12 inch
no good measuring from frame if its not rubbing the deck
I'm sure the 46 have it a good try to pull it
Hey Ryan how are you? Are you using the ripper on the field you had the corn yield problem you showed us on one of your last videos? Guess not that is beans right?
what are the results of the yield
Does this do kinda the same as a furrow plow? The ones they use I'm Europe a lot.
Sometimes people do put a wing kit on a ripper for that reason. It really depends on the farmer what is ground that he is farming is like and what crops he may be farming...
Jesus, ripping those curved tracks must be hard on the quick hitch
Doesn't know what he is doing or in a hurry.
You should have ran it deeper then 21" to make it really brake the hard pan but it will work, take the wheels off an drop it all the way in for good results!! To measure always stop in the field and push the dirt away to measure just like Matt Mccune said that's the correct way.
Just curious, why do you use twin wheels on tractors sometimes? Better traction?
DAMIEN666 yeah that and it helps to both put all the power to the ground and reduce compaction by better distributing the weight
Today's Farming Lesson ---------> ALWAYS use the larger tractor so you don't strain the drive train ! Yeup / Yeup / Yeup.....
So Ryan when do you teach Jamie to drive this one? hahaha
I think he already did. hahaha
Nellson Stout u are probably right
In Britain we can’t turn with a subsoiler or what u call a ripper. We run a Fendt 724 and it physically can’t turn with it.
do you have a new camera
what fuel consumption did it average at that?
Tadhg O’Connor we have a 8235r I'm guessing that it was probably around 13 to 15 gallons a hour
Were you actually ripping the full 21" deep with the gauge wheels set as they were?
Yep, we set the depth with the tractor.
How Farms Work must have not been that much of a hard pan if he was going that fast at the full 21in deep. did u think about getting more aggressive shoes?
Andy Hass u have to remember that only a 5 shank ripper so if it it was like a 7 shank you would tell it's there
shit maybe 12 to 16 you can see he wont lifting the pan but it did look kool
3:00 What was that spray rig doing out there??!!
Fall burndown, I'd suspect.
Carson Burke well you have a good eye. I didn't catch that you must really study the videos.
U should get a 9 shank ripper for the 8235 R
Oregon Farmers I've been detached from farming from quite some time so I could be wrong but 9 shanks on a
did you rent the ripper ?
R de Kort read the description
They should be using a diagonal pattern running across the traffic Lanes not with them. It is more effective that way. When I was a kid and my family had a cotton Farm in Arizona and we would lay out a land running Southwest to Northeast and or Southeast to Northwest. I know guys who would double or even triple rip their fields and then Disk them north and south.
Would doing this at your place benefit your yields?
At the farm with the lower yields? More than likely but that farm is strictly no-till.
How Farms Work Okay, I guess I am lost as to why it can't be tilled or to loosen the ground up to aerate it.
I have heard you talk about No Till.
How Farms Work how does that get decided ?
Jakub Drwal
Landowner.
You mean that the landowner decides the way you work the fields? If the yields are affected what's the owner's opinion about that?
How deep have you ripped this land?
We have over a foot of snow around 3 hours north of you shouldn't you have some?
His videos are usually delayed in posting by quite a bit of time from when they were actually shot. My guess is that this was actually done some time in November, which was pretty warm up until the weekend before Thanksgiving this year. I was in NW Wisconsin around that time, and I know how cold it was.
why you did not plow your fields?
you should order another beacon for the 82
Here in the Netherlands we pull a cultivator with 50 centimeter tines on it with a JD 6920S and that tractor is pulling that thing through the ground like there is no tomorrow. Your 4640 has more horsepower then that tractor so what is the reason that the 46 can't handle that ripper? So much compaction?
The 46 could pull it as far as power and traction but i couldnt keep the front end on the ground. it would come up 2 maybe 3 feet so i said i dont think so!
Is the 8235 your biggest tractor
Ludwigfarms
Should leave a test strip. with growing alfalfa and chisel plowing I can't see hardpan an issue. But be interesting and no stones there.
cool
u might have noticed that it´s not all the way in the ground so 21 is probably wrong
+ReolSPro We measured the depth that the dirt was running against the bar, not to the depth of the gauge wheels.
yes, but the dirt was bouncing 4-6 inches above the depth level. we usually measure by stopping in the field with the ripper all the way in. then shoved or kick the dirt back level, mark the shank and lift. then measure
Matt Mccune you are right , this tractor will never pull a 5 shank ripper 21" deep . Looks like it's about ten to me
In the uk its know as a subsoiler
jamescarrick10 a subsoiler and a ripper are two different things the subsoiler does not destroy the top soil it just tears up below the topsoil the ripper just rips up the ground
So it has a different effect? Or is a subsoiler just a 'cleaner' version, as it leaves no visible traces?
kladpapier it does have a different effect the subsoiler does not desturbes the top soil while the ripped does
other way around my friend.... Subsoilers have winged feet, breaking not only the hard pan but also breakaing up the top of the ground and the blades on them are thick and straight, a ripper is just a curved blade slicing through the ground to break up the compaction layer. Go to google and type in subsoiler and 5 shank vripper. You'll see the difference. Subsoilers are much more effect at their job, however, rippers are used in case of chisel or moldboard plowing that follows after the ripping as the tractors tends to follow the tracks of a subsoiler cuase a complete mess and curve in the plowing. Sorry im a year late
why not attach a propane heated airdrill and let hot dry sand fill the cracks?
that New Holland would have pulled that ripper
why you are not using a plow ?
They just want to break up compaction. You don't want the subsoil coming up. A plow is only good for up to 8 inches
A moldboard plow, even a chisel plow, doesn't go as deep as a ripper and get under the compaction layer. Ideally what is desired is to get an inch or two below the compaction layer which tend to be depending on soil type as much as 14 inches deep. Moldboard plows don't fracture the soil they shear it.
They use a chisel plow on a regular basis. A moldboard plow would actually make the hard pan worse, not to mention increase the chance of erosion on the hilly terrain they farm.
They want to break up compaction, not create more.
Thought it would have went on the New Tractor
The New Holland has been sent back to the dealer, if that's the one you mean.
TheodorEriksson Oh I thought they bought it that's a shame it was a nice Tractor
you have a ripper