Why You Feel Hopeless On Your Climb | Broken by Concept Episode 170 | League of Legends Podcast
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00:00 - 18:20 // Reacting To Our Last Episodes Comment “Feeling Hopeless”
18:20 - 22:40 // Mark Manson Quote That Resonated With Nathan + Lagging Measure
22:40 - 28:15 // Patch 13.20 Observations
28:15 - 34:20 // Should You Be Full Muting? Self Muting Danger
34:20 - 38:24 // Riot Limiting Snowballing
38:24 - 51:30 // SummonerSchool - Scientific Explanation For Taking A Break Effectiveness
51:30 - 57:12 // Curtis’ Clip Corner - Reference Points Influencing Micro
57:12 - 59:58 // Nathan’s Mailbag - Yaman - 1200 Games In Platinum Update
59:58 - 01:07:55 // Nathan’s Mailbag - Dan - POV Vods vs. Replays From Client
01:07:55 - 01:20:16 // Nathan’s Mailbag - Anonymous - Burnout From Process Or ELO Inflated?
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Human: I’m so miserable. This sucks. Im trying my best and it’s not good enough. I’ll never be good enough. I’m fucking worthless as a person.
Curtis and Nathan: OMG I love this
I think when being process oriented, the leap of faith you have to take is that you’ll get results some time, but not necessarily at any particular time.
it gets harder and harder to take that leap of faith the longer you’ve gone without results. that’s my problem anyway.
i know i should start the process but i’ve lost motivation and self confidence from being so bad at the game for so long. it feels like the process isn’t enough to save me.
if i don’t believe in myself idk if i should even start the process. maybe it will just become a self-fulfilling prophecy of failure.
@@eebbaa5560 you're right. the more momentum you have going the longer it takes to reverse it. Understand that and be present in the moment.
@@eebbaa5560 It really doesn't matter if you have been bad at the game for a long time. A 'long time' could mean a lot of different things. I started playing the game in early season 5 and I was in silver in season 6 when I first played ranked, and every season after that I was always just in Gold. In season 10 I swapped from mid to adc and I just got a tiny bit better every year, solely from experience. The end of season 12 was the first time that I was serious about getting better and reaching a particular rank, I restricted my champ pool, tried to be more disciplined with keeping a good mental in my games and tried to look for improvements in laning phase. I went from gold 1 believe straight to diamond in three months.
Shaking off bad habits is hard when you've stuck to them for a long time, but it can be done. You always have to consider this; you're not just 'bad' at the game for no reason. It is likely a result of you not really trying to improve in the first place and not having a way of thinking that supports improvement in the past. Which actually just means that you should see good results as soon as you start trying.
The feeling of not being able to improve now, just because you haven't in the past, is a trap. Because it's all just a matter of what you actually do to get better. If you've been playing on autopilot without regard for improvement for years, yes, you might see very little improvement. But that doesn't mean that you won't be able to improve massively when you actually want and try to.
I'm playing in Emerald right now and I'm not as good as I was when I hit diamond last season. That's mainly due to me not really going all out and trying my best. I tilt too much, I play too many champs, I don't play consistently enough (too many games on one day, and none some other days) and I don't look for improvement the same way I did last season. However, I am 100% certain that I can get to masters before the season ends, if I want to. I've played in high diamond lobbies in the first split of this year and I know for a fact that I can accomplish that level of play again and more even in as little as a few weeks.
Why am I writing all of this down? I just want to showcase the journey of someone who hasn't even remotely come close to their peak elo within the first 2 or 3 seasons of playing. There is a believe going around that, if you've been low elo for a few years, you're just a bad player intrinsically and you'll always be low elo, but I hard disagree with that sentiment, I think it's a big fucking hoax. There are plenty of examples out there of people getting to higher elos very late into their league journey, or people who haven't hit high elo quickly and have continuously grinded their way up there over years (see yasukeh for example). Your skill in the game isn't a matter of talent or intrinsic 'know-how', it's a matter of how you approach and think about the game. Even if you were bronze for eight years straight, I believe that it is possible to change your ways and get (a lot) better. It's harder if you've been stuck for a long time, but it can 100% be done.
The other thing is, even if you were to never see any results (which won't happen, I promise) you'll gain confidence and you'll be able to find joy in just the simple fact that you sat down and pushed through, remained consistent and stuck to your routine in spite of not seeing results. That's a sign of willpower and might actually be a bigger accomplishment that improving at the game, all things considered.
I hope this can help you at least a tiny bit with how you feel about the game and your current skill level.
I really hope you guys read the comments because I have to show my sincere appreciation for this podcast.
My journey is an antithesis to the title of this episode. League has taught me a lot on a personal level and that is something that can not easily be understood by non-players.
Personal responsability, results from the practice of a skill, emotional maturity, care for victory and improvement,...
I'm very passionate about the game and glad to see that respectable content creators plant this seed of positivity and guidance in the community of the game I love.
I've been following your works for a while now. Can't wait to improve.
Much love and big thanks!
😊
12:20 resonates with me so much. I went from Silver to Emerald within about a month (I was spamming 5 games a day reviewing for 1 hour and then watching high elo replays for the same amount of times I was reviewing, thinking back on it, it was a bit insane), and I think putting that same expectation of growth has kind of put a self-fulfilling prophecy on myself, now that I'm trying to get Diamond. Super eye-opening stuff.
I think the frustration around “I’m doing what I’m told but it isn’t helping” goes back to - maybe not a disrespect but maybe a lack of belief about just how difficult and complex the game is. I feel like there’s a vibe of “but I’m trying as hard as I can why isn’t that enough it’s not fair/balanced/something is broken” when the reality is that you really really DO have to be playing XY AND Z better consistently in all your games before you improve your rank - and then the game will still feel hard because now you are playing against better people!
Reminds me of rock climbing, when you start and have no technique 5.8 feels impossibly hard, then you develop technique and strength and suddenly 5.8 feels easy but 5.10 feels impossibly hard, but it’s exactly the same experience of “hard” so it can be difficult to FEEL the improvement on an emotional level.
The reality is that it will *never* feel easy if you are playing at your real rank and not smurfing - doing anything at the limit of your ability definitionally feels hard. If it doesn’t feel hard you aren’t at your limit.
Have the guys had Shok on before? If not I think that would be a great episode
Yes PLEEEEAAASEE I second, third and fourth this!
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what a beautiful feeling it is to know you did your absolute best and did not get the result you wanted, it's very humbling. Just have to refocus and attempt again! I have been slacking in my routine lately, letting myself sleep in and it's caused me to not always get a full 3 block in. Sometimes I just skip it entirely. I've noticed it's affected my productivity in ALL areas of my life with my schoolwork and gym time, etc. This is the reminder I needed to get back on track! You cannot expect great things to happen if you're not going the extra mile
any advice for actually doing your best? i find that fear of not achieving results usually holds me back from putting my all into something and i end up unsatisfied anyway.
@@eebbaa5560 to do your best you must not focus on the result! Dont let game state or others tilt you either, you cant control them. You have to find satisfaction in the process of improvement. Sometimes that will mean trying something out and losing the game off of it. The "results" shouldn't matrer too much. If you put too much stock into the wins and losses, then its actually super hard to improve because you're too scared to do anything. Keep searching BBC podcasts they do a way better job explaining this than I do, but yeah! Play for the journey not the result and the rank will come naturally. Remember as well there is no time crunch, so its okay if you get stuck league isnt going anywhere!
This is the fourth episode in a row that has been a timely personal attack for me and my ranked journey. It's always hyper-specific to what I'm struggling with that week, almost as if Curtis and Nathan are mind readers. Good on you guys, really loving this podcast since I found it earlier this year from Curtis's channel, and some friend recommendations. Really enjoying digesting and absorbing the points each episode. Definitely gonna put this episode on while I'm working today! Thanks for another banger episode guys!! 🙌🙌
haha max relate
The Subtle art of not giving a fuck is literally my favourite book, read it so many times and always come back to it when I feel like I'm going nowhere (be it league or anything else). Such real no BS advice that's so liberating. Would recommend the book to everyone no matter how your life is going.
Listening to this channel didn't bring me despair, I'd say it was the opposite for me. I have been playing the game for 10 years now and the highest I've been was plat. This season I got stuck in gold and got completely tilted, finding this channel made me realize that climbing is very complicated and that I have much more agency than I think. I kind of haven't been following all the advice you give, but narrowing my champ pool and taking a mental reset has led me to climbing from gold2 (bad mmr at this rank) to plat2 (mmr dropped here because I got bored and impatient of spamming brand mid). Now I've come back to Top, because it has some champs that I love, currently emerald4 (highest I've ever been).
About the self-mute/deafen, I have been chat restricted a few times now, because I get furious when I perceive someone as "delusional", so when I got my chat back, I simply mute-all after the first instance someone starts spamming chat. Definitely think it helped me. However, it is for sure true that deafening yourself can be detrimental, as you are completely cut -off from any communication.
Great Podcast!
I think a big problem lot of people have when they try to improve is they stop enjoying the game and instead of thinking about the game they think about their mistakes and feel like they failed and these negative emotions then worsen their gameplay. I think from my own experience i get better at the game the less i think about my gameplay and more about the game.
I love this podcast! I've climbed from silver 4 to gold 1 this season with jungle!
Congratulations!
congrats on the climb!
Personally, I fullmute + selfmute at the start of almost every match. I might type 1 message at the start of the game if I feel like it's necessary, something along the lines of "Jarvan can gank level 2 please be careful" but then I'll mute both myself and my team. The reason I do this is because for me, my biggest limiting factor in my climb is that I am very passionate and emotional about the game and I fall into a tilt + flame spiral very quickly. Stuff like getting flamed in chat for a choice that I think was right sets me off immediately. So the way I see it, I am productive in my games if I first of all don't get tilted by my teammates typing to me, and also if I can't tilt my teammates by typing to them. Sometimes, I even have a moment where I'm about to flame a teammate for some stupid reason, and that tiny moment of realization that I have muted myself and can't type anymore allows me to reflect on what I'm doing and seeing how pathetic it actually is to blame a teammate, and I can re-focus on the game. I really am thankful that riot implemented the selfmute button, for me it's a godsend. I might be attributing my success this year too much to it, maybe I've just improved at the game in general, but since riot added selfmute, I have broken my plateau of being gold 1 hardstuck in all of 2022, and made it to plat 3 last split, with approximately 250 games played. This split, I am already back up to emerald 4 in less than 100 games, which is basically equivalent to last splits plat 4 0LP.
TLDR, I have never climbed as fast and far as I have since riot gave me the option to mute myself so I don't flame my teammates.
Saw a video recently of someone ranting about self mute and that it shouldn't be in-game because you can't communicate with your team.
Gave me a good chuckle because 99/100 chat interactions in League are negative or useless. It really drags me down and tilts me whether I get flamed or teammates flame each other. For me it's a net negative in all aspects and I just put it on pre made chat only to spare myself the headache.
@@1Cajathey dont even listen to pings 90% of the time. Mute game sound and listen to music with headphones. Only way to get into a flowstate and not care about what happens and just focus on yourself
You can disable chat instead. When you do /mute all you don't see pings either. I have lost like 50 games this season alone when jungler does /mute all and is afk clearing when I spam ping the play that is required for us to win the game.
I just started climbing (been D4-D1 for like 8 years) when i stopped worrying about winning or losing.
Of course i get upset when i lose, but i try just to be consistent.
With this mindset i just started having more fun and eventually climbed
The process does work, it really does I have gone from Silver to Plat 2 in a span of 2 splits but it's a truly mentally grueling process, the games that are hopeless are games where you limit test lane and can still win but team would rather int and not listen to calls and flame and blame you even they threw their 9/1 lead, happens far to often. That is very frustrating, it's the fact 20 minutes or more was wasted because you literally can't control what your teammates do. Combine this with the enemy team actually caring and like throwing themselves at because if you do than they can do whatever they want. Getting focused by 3 + is very frusterate while team ints 1 by 1. Happens atleast 1 out every 5 games if not more from personal experience.
I had a really terrible weekend but at least I get to wake up to a new BBC episode. Favorite part so far: every week you have to view yourself as a fresh start. I just gotta throw all my negativity from last week into the trash bin. Also the bronze ekko comment made me realize, I’m frustrating myself because I go into games thinking i know so much; I don’t, I’m silver, my instincts are pretty much useless. Gotta be more curious and open to being proven wrong
Gratitude and the appreciation for the small things will lead you to great places, empty that recycling bin and get on it! Good luck this week
are you the aram guy? good point about overconfidence though. i’m also silver and i struggle with keeping my ego in check, especially when i feel like the people i’m playing against are playing at a really low skill level. it’s humbling to accept reality and realize that you’re just as bad if not worse for not being able to climb.
This mentality helped me climb from Emerald 1 to Diamond 2.
Curtis said something in a video about how it is important that when you review a game, review it through a specific lens. My lens was did I maximize my mid matchup well? Did I take favorable trades?
Every game I wrote notes and tried to figure out how to maximize the mid 1v1. I watched videos and played enemy champs to understand them. Eventually I would get matchups that I had already reviewed. I realized I was leaking lp from matchups I don't understand.
Another was looking for the 1% that high elo players do. Always get a refill first base. Try to get some sort of item spike fast.
Also, deep dive on BBC ideas that would be beneficial for Wild Rift would be much appreciated!!!! You guys are so positive, and as a Wild Rift player, I find these episodes so helpful for my mental and even alot of gameplay specifics. Cheers!
climbed from bronze to emerald this season, started to struggle against emerald 2-1 players.... gotta keep going.
thanks for more!
That's an amazing achievment! Keep going man
Does anyone have a list of all the books that the guys have recommended or mentioned?
Specifically the self-help/productivity books or the ones from the book club? They're usually mentioned off-hand now and it looks like the patreon is no longer available for reference :(
last split I barely hit silver with around 300 games (yeah my mmr was screwed since i've not played for some years).. the last 20 games i played were so hard and i tried so hard my champion performance stats were comparable to diamond players... this is not normal... a bronze player should not be required to play like a diamond player just to get to silver......
Yeah that's the elephant in the room. Matchmaking is rigged if the game doesn't allow you to play well and climb. The people who think League is a fair game only say that because they win. Studies show that many people think an unfair game is fair so long as they are winning. It's so obvious. If I climb a rank and 3 divisions and then thrown in to loser's queue and lose games to where I was at the beginning of the season, I'm not the problem. If I was the problem I would never have made it that far in the first place.
Having diamond stats vs bronze players is VERY VERY VERY different from having diamond stats vs diamond players.
I feel hopeless too, and it feels even worse knowing I'm at a silver level of play. Feels like if I was any good I'd be higher without any process and I should just give up lol
I am new to jungle and trying to pick a champ. What are the Solo 2 junglers that Nathan recommends?
I wonder if the experience of the 'hopless' viewer(s) could be understood through the lens that BBC could be 'gas-lighting' the community.
Every week the picture is presented that, fundamentally, one is in control of one's ranked progress. However, over the next week the player is confronted with evidence that their agency is insignificant in the face of league's challenges (e.g. matchmaking algorithm enforced 50% winrate, or 60% winrate but 15LP per win 30LP per loss hardstuck, or Riot's paid actor troll army etc.). If following the BBC process over X time does not lead to tangible improvement signals, either the player is flawed or Curtis and Nathan are drinking the cool-aid. Which is true? Maddening!
I don't think the human mind is well equipped to deal with the scale of time and efficiently applied effort required to improve at something that is simulatiously highly variable and an intense armsrace, whilst filtering signal and enduring doubt. Mine certainly struggles often. I personally use the fact I don't play enough games as a beacon to guide my thoughts back to the rational path. If I were to play enough games, I guess I'd need to find another self-actionable 'most likely' factor to use, but eventually maybe any mind will run out of accountability reserves without success signal to recharge them?
I am a believer in having chat completely off. Use pings for everything. Turn off enemy emotes, set names to champion.
Unironcually tyler 1 is one of the people best able to comment on the state of the game due to his level of play in all 5 roles 35:20 in the vid
The gains in emerald or any elo where you are designated as hardstuck are absolutely soul crushing. You lose around 30, and gain something like 19. Some people even have worse. you need a 60% winrate to even break even with gains like that. So if you're average 50% or even 55% you'll be losing lp and going back down. How do you win in that environment?
I thought MMR was supposed to 'catch up' after 30 or so games. But it has remained the same.
Idk, it feels so bad right now. I peaked masters 77 lp this season and now im d4 and for the first time i've losted it and inted just to let out my frustration (and lose the other peoples game) pathetic. I had so much help from people from reddit, vod reviews, challenger replay reviews and what did i achieve? D4 from masters 77lp. Jesus christ. Im so lost that i dont understand my fundamental problem on this game. But for sure i will stop playing ranked because its a game and making my self feeling like that is meaningless
In my opinion, those players that can’t get out of low elo haven’t been limit testing/inting hard enough to know their champion’s full capability. No amount of coaching can do that for you as a player.
10 years of this game, well over 10-20K hours in the game, hardstuck gold, touched plat then got that account banned from toxicity. new account hard stuck gold
Lmao
I don't watch consistently so I'm not sure if you've covered it. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on people complaining about rank integrity this season. What I mean is people complaining about having lobbies in gold from players in iron all the way to emerald
best podcast on the internet.
15:00 we often find ourselves using confirmation bias to prove something subconsciously
I've been binging episodes and something I noticed is the reference to Rek'Sai as he??? Isn't Rek'Sai female? Just wanted to help out cuz it is in so many episodes haha never too late to course correct right guys?
How dare he misgender the sandshark >:[
I find it funny because people want to get into ranked league of legends, then break under the pressure. You are going into the most competitive video game on the planet. Getting good at this game isn't just hard, it is literally the hardest game to get good at. Even being average at league takes a lot of skill and I think people discredit themselves and beat themselves up because they aren't in the top 1%.
ngl i full mute alot. did it while i was listening to the pod just bc my teammates started typing. I get tilted and start typing too cause these people dont make sense most of the time. So full muting allows both me and my teammates to play without fully tilting
Why do i feel hopeless in my climb? I lose 27LP per loss, and only gain 23 LP if i win. and in iron... every game is already a coinflip and when i literally lose more lp than if i win, just so irritating. i Try and not tilt but omg
edit: Also just wanted to add, I made an alt account and it got placed in silver. I climbed out and got it to gold. Been a small sample size so far, but im winning a lot more than im losing (both LP and just games). So just wondering what the deal is, that if i can survive/do well in silver/gold why is bronze/iron so damn hard?? I dont carry the games, but i dont feed and jungle and get objectives and such. Im in a discord with a few Diamond players and they tell me i belong in bronze/iron if i cant carry myself out. But if thats the case, then why such a difference in higher ELO? I get it, everyone says its not your teams fault, its your own fault, and been listening to this podcast for the past couple days while playing so just curious what your guys thoughts are? Im mostly a one trick shaco but also play nocturne or vi if he gets banned
You guys need to turn off the auto focus on your camera. It's constantly changing focal length when you wave your hands about...
I personally have felt hopeless as an ADC main in this game. It feels like I don't have control over my games. I can only play if my mid, jungle, and support are good and what's potentially even worse is that it doesn't matter if I'm bad if my mid, jungle, and support are good enough that I don't get punished for my mistakes. I crave independence and this roles is tiresome because I don't have that. It feels like I'm a cog in a machine instead of the conductor. As such I've thought about switching to jungle who is the conductor or maybe mid that at least has some more agency.
@@crimsonxii9361 You say that, but there are just so many variables. Sometimes it can be hard to figure out if I lose a fight for example. Did I die because my support messed up their combo? Or did I die because I was hitting the wrong target? Maybe the wave was too big? It's tricky when there are two people in the lane to identify sometimes.
Maybe try mid out. I play adc and I've been playing mid recently. You don't have to switch permanently, you could try mid then go back to bot, or even play bot and mid! Botlane can get very repetitive and frustrating.
Do you know what constitutes as “good” in these roles? You might be focusing on passing judgment on these roles instead of your own individual performance per game. You might want to check vids from good junglers, supports, mids, and tops and check your bad game replays if your teammates were actually performing to par. Most importantly, what about your mistakes? It’s easy to mistake that want for people to be able to catch your mistakes and make them inconsequential rather than a craving for agency. The more agency that you have, the more you can potentially drag a game down so if your deaths are a factor then you might be underestimating how much weight you bring to your game.
@@papoteer Oh I am passing judgment on my performance in the game. As I had said, it honestly feels worse if I play poorly and get carried than if I play well and get screwed by bad teammates. And this situation occurs way more often than I'd like. If I play poorly I should lose the game in my mind.
I think adc just have a very different wincon than the other roles. I main mid, but this is my opinion as a mid laner of what I want to see from my adc:
1. Value their scaling! So many adc even up to diamond don't value scaling at all. I legit don't care if you are 0/7 if you are farming really well and know how to stay relevant in the game. Your value comes from being present in team fights and doing lots of damage, and it only happens with items and that only happens with gold. If your only way to get gold is to get kills, you're playing your role incorrectly. There's a reason adc in pro play rather handshake and have 300 cs at 25 min and duke it out in a big fight than they do perma fighting each other.
2. Know your timers. This is complex, but it's a combination of reset timers (when I off role support so many of my adc just die from overstaying in lane because they greed from plates after getting a double or something), item spikes and paying attention to objective timers. If you farmed up 2000 gold and want to reset before 10 seconds before dragon spawns, consider why you ended up in that situation. Maybe you could have reset earlier and still gotten to your item spike? But maybe contesting dragon was also a bad call in that situation (so many junglers force dragons when it's not necessary) so getting max value from your reset could be better.
3. Understand your role in a fight. 99% of the time, you want to play front to back because you're a squishy that die really easily when you're caught out of position. You do good damage but it's usually better to hit the enemy front line and not die instead of trying to go deep and die because you ended up out of position.
4. Map awareness. Know where to be on the map depending on your current objective e.g. maybe you want to farm for next item spike then you probably want to cross map to safely farm but if you are really strong you probably don't want to be farming as much as you want to be ready to fight. It doesn't mean you can't farm, but consider farming in a way that moves you closer to the fight spot. Also try to get a sense of where something is going to happen on the map so you can be there before it happens. In the same way, don't overextend by going too deep in one lane. This is fine if you know where the enemy is, but a lot of the time you see throws because the adc with their supp push all the way into the mid inhib tower and then they are caught out and die for no reason. You don't have to perma shoving, you can shove and roam too.
5. Adc isn't just about being in a lane! One reason why adc feel like they lack agency is because they have a really binary understanding of what they can do on the map, thinking they can only be in one lane at a time and that they can't leave. But adc can leave for more than just dragon. They can shove in bot tower if enemy resets and go roam mid, or they can push out mid and go ward enemy jungle and stuff like that. All of those are valid plays that help to create agency and control over your game.
Have you guys seen the video/picture of Summoner's Rift map changes? What does two high elo players think of a potential "very" different map? I assume it would change so much!
As a Jinx player, that Ori hurt me through the screen.
01:07:55, I feel the same....
Guys please do a video on mechanics. Things that challenger players think everyone should already know (we don't) KEY BINDS. How are we supposed to auto attack? theres like 10 different methods. things like target champion only and every other thing quick casting manual casting self casting wtf? This is the confusing part.
and lets be real guys, in a couple years time all of us watching BBC right now will all be the top of the ladder. Yet still wont all be challenger.. theres only so many spots.
Master Yi litterally counters my whole champ pool and I will dodge every game he´s against me because I can´t ban Briar and Yi
the truth is, not everyone is going to be good at everything. league educational content helped me massively, but you can't polish a turd
26:00 as someone who has been watching Skillcapped for years now, I watch maybe 1 or 2 videos a week from them now because I just skip all the "Best champs" or "op builds" or "tierlist" videos. I know they are not helpful. I understand why they make them (not only they get a lot of clicks, but they are also easier to make than breaking down games to show some concepts and they do release one video a day, so some of them have to be low effort. Also, and this might be the biggest reason, they are a paid subscription service and that service gives you access to the actually informative videos, they can't give 7 of them for free every week), but I don't like them
57:00 Bro, there's truly nothing wrong with being hardstuck for one simple reason: the game TRIES to make you hardstuck. If you are hardstuck, then the ranked ladder did its job, it found your current skill level and placed you in it. The only way out is to improve your skill level, maintain it consistently and then you'll be hardstuck at a higher rank. It's how the games goes and will always go. There's no shame in it
This game makes me feel so gutted. I’m a member of the MLS and I worked my ass off this summer just to get to silver. I was recording games, reviewing them, asking the right questions, everything that gets preached. But when I went back to work (I teach) I fell out of rhythm and had to accept playing fewer games a week. Long story short I’m now back to Bronze 4. I can’t handle playing a game for almost three years and not being able to maintain at least high bronze. And at the end of the day I just don’t think it’s worth investing anymore energy into. Not when there’s so much happening in every game I have no control over.
Yeah i do feel like alot of it can be luck. Who gets the better teammates. Then you have the cursed promos where its like the game knows and decides to give you afk teammates
@@alejandroc7357 there is almost no luck in league and if you think it's just teammates, then you are at your true elo. Full stop.
@@andrew_240 ok so if im winning bot lane right. My top lane is 0/7 losing hard. Our jungler isnt doing good either. Neither is mid lane. And then we lose. Its my fault then???
Please explain
@@alejandroc7357 you're talking about 1 in every 25 games. Idk how the existence of smurfs being able to climb to master with a 90% wr doesn't immediately convince you that it's just you. What is the point in focusing on those outlier games instead of realizing that you are the only common factor in all of your games.
@@andrew_240 your own comment just proves my point idiot. Smurfs climbing. Yea thats why there is losing streaks and winning streaks. Ever factor in that maybe the smurf is on the enemy team more often than on my team. I go and look at the match history/elo of my teammates. When i win. I see that the enemy had some low skill players. When i lose. They happened to be on mine.
In this game you cant just be good. Or a little bit better than everyone on your team. You have to be way above them.
ALSO ive seen higher elo players try to carry on stream in lower elos and they still cant carry 😂
Checkmate
This isn't meant to be negative but I dont really see it being talked about and it needs to be said. You as well as everyone has a skill ceiling, it is unrealistic to expect greatness just because you practice the correct process for achieving greatness. You and the vast majority will be mediocre and it will never change no matter how hard you try. If it was easy everyone would do it and it would hold no meaning. Trust the process enjoy the growth but dont beat yourself up because youre failing at something that is difficult by nature.
It's a bit unfair you guys had no comment on the patch, I'm pretty sure Curtis likes the patch cause Orianna Syndra is very strong.
I decided to delete the game guys its not possible to win unless you have a draft diff or a jg diff +20 lp per win for -28 per loss gg
14:16 I like how you are more willing to believe a person is subconsciously inting than having a streak of bad luck from Riot's turbulent matchmaking.
The bad luck isn’t worth focusing on, but possible personal mistakes are.
saying this as someone who often has to force myself to ignore bad luck in my games, i still play pretty well in games where i feel like i got unlucky with teammates.
even if i give up on winning the game and don’t play perfectly, i’m usually not the reason my team loses, and i’m sometimes able to drag games out for a long time even with people that you would consider bad luck to get on your team.
that being said, while bad luck does have in impact in solo queue, focusing on it too much turns you into a victim of circumstance. i try to focus on my improvement agnostic of external factors.
Thats not a correct interpretation of the quote.
Okay let’s be honest. League is an amazing game, but Riot is an awful and frankly, evil, company. They love your misery and pain because it makes them money.
+18 -34, if you win more than two games in a row expect an afk on your team. If you rank up expect multiple afks/full on trolls for the next 6 games.
Nobody wants to talk about it but, if you’re making changes and find the above factors to be the case, buy a new account.
It isn’t always the fix, sometimes you do just suck. But for some it is the single factor that actually matters.
It’s incredibly convenient for a challenger player to say the ranked ladder works, because if it doesn’t work properly, how do you justify that you genuinely earned your rank? Sounds like an ego defense to say riot has great matchmaking
35:00 the issue with the game being snowballs is, it doesn’t matter if you play smart and dominate your opponent, if your top laner or bot laner fed, it doesn’t matter how smart or good you are, you just get steamrolled over, and that’s why the majority of players think almost every single ranked game is a coin flip. This is my favorite patch every because my in game decisions never stop mattering now, whereas if you come out of laning phase a 3/0 Akali, the enemy team has a 7/0 Garen, you just lose. Now because of the resisted gold, even if that Garen is 7/0, the enemy team will still not have as much gold to steamroll over you. This patch makes every single decision YOU make matter more because your teammates can’t negatively impact them nearly as much now.
What a great and succinct explanation of why I was consistently Plat for years, and am now consistently Diamond in the last couple after discovering Nathan's channel and the BBC.
Really helped me understand why all of my friends have been consistently Plat (now Emerald) for the last couple of years too without going up or down by very much.
I can see with a clear mind now as to why I also have friends who have consistently bounced between High Gold/Low Plat, or High Silver/Low Gold for the last couple of years too.
It's all a coin flip the matchmaking doesn't work! I knew it.
Matchmaking is only an issue until the system has you where it thinks you belong. I've played games with peopled ranked iron through gold in them. I've also seen people nearly 200+ games in that have games where everyone in them are all the roughly same rank. So matchmaking can make your first few games a real pain but it won't stop you from climbing once you have a large enough sample size at least as far as teams having massive rank disparities.
The best information you can get is to troll games until you’re banned permanently! I done this and life has been great! The problem with league is it’s a game,so unless you have a desire to make money doing it you’ll will never have the mental fortitude to learn master a skill that doesn’t transition to you’re real life. There are so many better things to do with you’re time,and it’s sad you have to guys questioning a person living desire on their desire to win a league game. The truth is it isn’t as important to win at league for majority of the players. People who have never been alpha in real life have created a virtual mindset to become alpha. Just be great in life forget league it’s a trash game. Btw I was masters when I realized this myself
If league has a negative impact on your life, quit. I did for over three years and it was very good for my life
I'm gonna be really honest. I feel like calling yourself "Alpha" in real life and throwing shit on something you don't agree with is the least "Alpha" thing you could do. It's okay to disagree, but there's no need to be disrespectful. Also, you just said you trolled games until banned. That's not alpha my friend, that's childish behaviour
I really love you guys' content but I've noticed sometimes you guys contradict yourselves. Some days you will say "Following the meta can be really useful if you want to climb" and the next you say "The meta means nothing it is negligible" and mock content creators who do push this forward. It's also like "Don't listen to your friends" and "Ask a friend what he thinks of your play" it's a bit weird, it feels like the context of the conversation pushes you to certain conclusions but you've not taken a step back before.