You are using the holster in a manner in which it was not intended to be used. If you want to prove it's a bad design, 1) contact the company and verify they sent the correct holster 2) put it in your waist band and try to get a finger or jacket string in the trigger guard. It will be hard to do because the waist band of your paints will be covering the trigger guard protecting the trigger. Only thing that's currently on the fail boat is this review. Whoo whoo!
If you conceal carry by walking around holding the holstered gun in your hand, then you are correct. BUT that is not how you correctly carry with an IWB holster now is it. When you carry the IWB holster INSIDE THE WAISTBAND like it is supposed to be used, your waistband covers and protects the trigger. The only thing black and white is the fact he didn't demonstrate the failure while correctly using the holster.
There's zero reason or excuse for an exposed trigger in a holster. Sooner or later someone will go to draw their firearm and their finger will hit the trigger. More likely in a panic situation I'm sure. It shouldn't be a possibility to happen. Ever.
@@jamesholder5725 can you provide the timestamp in the video where the holster was actually inside the waistband and the "failure" was demonstrated by trying to draw the gun? You can't because it was never shown. Why? Because he knew it can't be done. Anyone who thinks it could be done is as inexperienced as the reviewer.
@@mblinkous what's it matter if the holster was in the waistband at that point or not? People don't typically train unholstering and just grab and pull. The trigger should never be accessible in a holster. Whether it's sitting in his hand or in the waistband. I can't believe people are making excuses for this. It's a dangerous.
I own 5 of these and absolutely love them. Easily the best, most concealable, most comfortable OWB I’ve seen. Have had no issues with the trigger guard gap...you can adjust for a deeper insertion (though it costs you on retention). Retention, with a full mag, is amazing...I can shake the hoster upside down and the gun doesn’t come out. I would imagine that you can force your finger down into any leather holster once broken in if you really want to...that 1/2” of open guard isn’t going to make any difference. Any holster, guard coverage or no, is susceptible to having a tie string or shirt tail get caught down in the holster...it’s not going to get in there BECAUSE of the guard coverage (which does vary from gun to gun...one of the drawbacks of universal versus custom). Can’t speak to the clip...like I said, mine are all OWB (you slide your belt thorugh). I run Vedder Kydex for training, so I can see where the clip issue can come into play for those who use clips/paddles. But zero out of 10? I can deliberately run my car into a tree because there is no guard around my gas pedal...some of it has to come down to the safety between the ears.
I have 3 OWB Lockleather 2's, one for my PMR 30, one for my 9mm Shield, and one for snub nose J Frame. Love them all, zero issues. The Shield I had to break in a bit, it was tight, but now it's like a glove. I highly recommend these holsters.
Can force your finger down inside the hoster to fire the gun with it not on your belt but then b**** that your belt covers up too much of the handle that you don't like it W as the belt is covering up your handle too much it's covering up the g****** trigger 2 dumb a**
Big 🧠 on Brad... Pulp fiction your correct i agree 💯% mine is iwb love the holster I'ma get 1 of the owb to try it. I had to take my holster to the leather shop & have them move the clip up which lets the holster sit lower along my waist/belt line maybe a little harder to draw the gun but it's way more concealed/comfy rarely do I have to draw the gun so I'd rather go with making the holster more comfortable 🤷
Mine works good for my Walther 9mm. It cover the trigger completely. The only real issue I see is the belt clip which could slip off the belt but that hasn't happened to me and hopefully won't! Thanks for the review John!
I just got one for my Springfield 1911 Emissary and it works fine. I’ve only had one outing with it so far but it was quite comfortable and it holds the pistol in place pretty good. Though my holster is a little different from yours. Mine has the slots for running a belt through and is a little wider. One small complaint I have with it is that when I draw the gun from it there are tiny flakes of leather on the gun. Maybe it’s because it’s new but I hope it stops. I don’t want the internals getting gummed up with leather particles. No other leather holster I’ve ever owned for my other guns has ever had this problem.
@@ASPextra because of your sample size of *one*? Lol. Did you miss the dozens of other comments from people who *didn't* have the issue(s) you had? Holsters are like underwear, what works for one person will be garbage for another (and the opposite as well). Honestly you need the add a 4th criteria to your list: excellent CS and easy returns. The best appendix carry holster for you would be useless trash for me (i can't appendix carry. At all). Being able to try it with your specific gun, on your specific body, with your specific wardrobe is vital IMO and coughing up 80-150$ each time I want to try one out isn't very sustainable for most of us.
@Active Self Protection Extra "upgrade to a better holster". He said he loved it. Plain and simple. From all the comments in here I would say you are not the be all end all to holster selection..
@@bp968i really like the look of this holster. i might try to find a list of which guns fit it best before choosing a gun. sounds like most guns will work good with it and there's just a rare few that don't fit it as well.
@Jack_80 I probably wouldn't go as far as picking my gun based on the holster i liked, but in this case it won't limit you much. It fits all the normal glock models, all the normal M&P models, Normal SIG models, and most normal 1911 models. By "normal" I mean stuff people usually carry. Your unlikely to find one that fits an IMI Micro UZI or a B&T MP9, etc. I have the OWB model (IWB is just to uncomfortable with my medical issues) and wear it with a Gen 4 Glock 19 MOS with raised sights and an RMR optic installed. Fits great.
Did not work for my Glock 20 sits to low in the holster couldn't get my hand completely on the grip an mag release was covered by the leather an would release my mag with certain movement, fail for my gun then need to make them specifically for each gun, will stick with my crossbreed an chest holster till find a good owb holster
Just because it doesn’t fit well with your gun doesn’t mean it’s a “fail” for everyone else mine is perfectly fine for the Glock 19 even clears my suppressor height sights and fits snug no problem and the retention adjustment is great
@@ASPextra idk so far I have zero problems but that’s besides the point. I plan on getting another holster because I am adding a light to my Glock. What holster would you recommend?????????
Brutal but honest. I would hate to be running that company. But if I did, I would be paying attention to reviews like these that have been out for years and produce a quality product that checked all the boxes. Seems there are too many outfits selling garbage holsters trying to get a piece of thw CCW market.
How is it possible that this dude can get his finger in the trigger when he claims to not be able to access the gun IWB? 🤔 This guy is the original Detroit Self Protection. LOL
You needed to go WAY out of your way to cause the fail. I have four of these. Never have I tried to do what you did. I have found these holsters to be the best I have ever used.
I have the same one for my p365 and I dont have anyone of those problems. So I dont know must be your gun! Lol and I love it. Very comfortable as well.
Simple Kydex, belt loops or hook clip (or even shirt tuck clip if you must), with tension adjustment made by a good holster manufacturer is all you need. I tried many and ALWAYS have gone back to Kydex.
I'm with you. Kydex is not uncomfortable at all for me. It seems like the leather and material backed holsters would be 1) too hot and sweaty and cause irritation 2) I feel that the soft material would bunch up all my stuff. I don't want my stuff all bunched up.
do you have to use it inside the waistband or can you clip it on the other way to have it on the outside. i've haven't owned a gun yet and am just curious.
@@Jack_80 You would buy an OWB (outside waistband) holster if you wanted to carry on the outside. The clip on the IWBs are meant to clip around the bottom of your belt, so reversing it would lead to retention issues.
First of all, the holster has no issues, it works great and is comfortable. I am glad I did not see this before I bought it, it may have deterred me. I have same gun and same holster as shown in video, no issue with exposed trigger or fear of getting to trigger. and the holster works great. In fact I like the tiny gap and it lets me take out magazine without taking it out of holster. I have no idea what the rant in video is about, my guess is this is a personal grudge.
the gap over the trigger can actually be alot worse for other guns. I got a shield and I got a chance to see the holster for it and oh my god. Absolutely not. I'll pass on these.
I think a major drawback of this holster is that they are not made for each pistol specifically. One size holster fits several different pistols. If you get lucky, yours might fit perfectly with the entire trigger guard covered but you won't know till you get it.
Urban Carry plainly states that the holster needs to be molded to the pistol. I have 2 OWB and 1 IWB Lock Leathers and they fit like gloves on the pistols in them. All 3 get 10 out of 10. The Urban G3 is another story at least for me. 2 out of 10.
I have 2 lock leather holsters. Also, I keep my trigger finger extended when drawing my weapon. The little teeny opening does not come into play. You should retract your weapon properly.
@@ASPextra It seems a lot of people in this comment section missed the point. You should do another video showing how this is a problem when wearing the holster, rather than holding it out in front of you.
You're brutal on Urban Carry lol. I believe this is the second review, you would think the company would listen to the ppl and fix their issues. Thank you for the honest review. God Bless.
dude got sent the wrong sized holster and rather than send it back he goes into full blown tier 1 Karen mode.. just send it back and get the right size..mine covers fine
whats going on Jay Flo. I can personally guarantee we listen to our customers. Each holster is made to accommodate a few different firearms based of the dimensions. Some will sit higher in the holster and some will sit lower. Just depends on the size. I actually hear the opposite from customers. They want it to sit higher so they can get a better grip on the firearm when drawing. We are not knocking this review at all. That was his personal feelings about the holster and we appreciate his honestly.
@@richardc7094 Greatly appreciate your reply, but my comment was solely on his second review of your Holsters. I do not own any so I can not say they do not work properly? I just found it funny and weird he / among other RUclipsrs would be so critical. Instead of giving feedback on how to better the product. It's been said numerous times that urban carry is a fail Holster. G1 and G2. But once again I don't own any of your products, but watching videos like this make any consumer not even want to purchase one. Do to how low of rating review they give it. I do thank you for taking the time to reply. That in itself shows you guys are listening.
I have one for M&P Shield 2.0 and my Beretta 92X...Both cover the trigger completely. I just believe they sold you the wrong holster. I do agree with your concerns, but you must have the wrong holster. I just ordered a third for my micro 9, let's see if it is good to go...
Truth!! however I think that Karen got the wrong sized holster and should return it for the proper sized (human error) instead of going full blown retard on this. Mine covers perfectly .
I ordered and received one just like that one, left handed IWB. I immediately sent it back. The holster is really well made, and very comfortable. The reason I sent it back, was not the slight opening in the trigger guard- frankly, I just don't remember if there was one- but the way the holster RIDES on my belt. The clip in NOT adjustable, or I might still have it. It's strictly made as a low ride holster. I'm a big guy, and no matter how I tried, it was quite difficult to get a purchase on, and draw the gun. Furthermore, I contacted them about making the holster in a high ride configuration, and lets just say they were uninterested.
John has been biased against Urban Carry ever since he reviewed their first holster, which I agree wasn't the best design for a BWB (Below Waist Band) holster. I am more than satisfied with both of my Urban Carry holsters that I carry my trusty and reliable EDC Taurus PT111 Millennium G2 in. I got the G2 Lieutenant black in early 2016 and the IWB LockLeather 205-R black in late 2019 and I have zero complaints about either of them.
@@ASPextra For starts in your video of the first Urban Carry you were using it completely wrong. Second the way you "Forced" your trigger finger into the LockLeather to actuate the trigger was moronic and irrelevant. As you pointed out later due to the belt clip being higher on the holster the gap between the firearm's grip and the holster's trigger well is shielded by your belt. Not to mention that it's the firearm owner's responsibility to make sure that there are no obstructions or anything else to interfere with the firearm while reholstering it.
Didn't I state a basic of Firearm Safety training? The firearm owner/wielder is responsible for all negligent discharges of the firearm they are wielding or have on their person. This includes making sure that there are no obstructions or anything else that will interfere with the firearm's operation while holstering it.
I got one and the only thing I ran into was the lock part was to locky. Trying to draw took way too much effort, in fact if I didn’t weigh 210 lbs I would be lifting myself of the ground to get it to release. I ended up taking the tension screw completely out. I can now draw with less effort and it still locks in place. I’m not endorsing it I’m just making it work.
Hey GH Hunter. As a Rep for Urban Carry I recommend putting the retention screw back in the holster. Please feel free to contact me at support@urbancarryholsters.com and we could go through some trouble shooting steps.
Have seen it happen with stuff like 500 magnums, it can happen when recoil causes a flinch and you put a second round into the ceiling. Disconcerting to say the least
I seen it with my own eyes! Guy buys new AR, the store installs a red dot and he proceeds to shoot the ceiling at their range. Yes the red dot Was off that bad!!
You were either sent the wrong holster on accident and need to confirm it’s correct with the company or you didn’t adjust it accordingly because at first the leather will be stiff/tight.
I have to disagree with you on this holster, I have glock 26 gen 5, glock 42,M&P 2.0, and M&P Shield all with lock leather iwb and owb holsters. Triggers are totally covered, very comfortable, have no problems with them, when leather breaks in still holds the fire arm securely. In your case of the iwb holster when the holding clip goes around the belt the pants waist band covers the opening you mentioned ,when holster is in place and u draw there is no way your trigger finger will come in contact with the trigger, besides your finger should not be on the trigger until your ready to fire. Anyway to me it's a great holster I like it better than the kydex ones.
John, I just purchased an urban carry IWB holster for my Springfield Hellcat and it does cover the trigger completely. I do agree with you , however, that the holster clip sits a little low, causing the holster to sit higher up on the waist which makes it a little more difficult to conceal.
I use the own for my 365 and canick combat and love em,I'm not s big iwb guy but I also have the own for my 365 and have had 0 problems and love em. They definitely sent you the wrong one,the triggers on each pistol I use in the 4 lock leather holsters I've got completely cover the triggers by far.
John, I think the UC outlook is to have the gun as low as possible in the paints. That is why you may not like how low it sits. I would like to see them make it canter to put it at an angle and cover the trigger better then it would be worth it.
The problem is, moderating comments is miserable because everyone on the internet is an expert and knows better. This is one of the big reasons RUclipsrs do so few critical product reviews.
So the belt covers the " opening " that you worked your finger into , making it " a fail " . What is it really , you can get your finger in for a discharge or you cant get good contact on the grip ? It's one or the other cant be both .
It can be both depending on your priority. His priority is he wants 100% trigger guard coverage. In my opinion, while that is optimal, that may not always be possible especially if you carry with a WML where holster manufacturers are forced to have more of an opening in the holster. The trigger guard coverage should be great enough that you have 100% confidence that it will not be pulled negligently.
Space between the top of the belt and the grip is a very real consideration. Especially if you use the Scott Jedlinski "stab" down to get a claw grip, you need adequate space to allow your fingers to drive down into that space. Scott explains that in this video at 7:30-8:00 ruclips.net/video/5Csqb8lw5ek/видео.html
@@concealedcarryworks7374 Did you see how he forced his finger into that small opening and that was with the holster off his belt . On the belt , the belt helps to cover the opening . He would have to put his finger behind the belt , then wiggle it ithrough the gap , push the finger forward into the trigger guard and then pull the trigger .If he can do that I am sure he has never missed the G spot on a date .
I bought an OWB that I wanted to use around the house. It's does cover the trigger, retention is good, but when you draw the pistol, the holster sort of collapses on itself making re-holstering very difficult and unsafe unless you take the holster off. The holster is currently in a drawer.
Hey Shawn, nothing actually goes across the inside of the trigger guard. If you are curious how it properly works please message me at support@urbancarryholsters.com. I can give you a run down on how your firearm locks in.
I bought the IWB for my M&P 40, and I have the same problem: doesn't cover trigger guard and sits with the handle right on my belt so I can't get a grip. I gave it a bad review, and it lives in a drawer. Waiting for my Dark Star in the mail.
@@papimaximus95 I didn't know better a few months ago when I bought it. Did further research to find out it wasn't me, but the holster making it hard to draw. Then I saw another holster review and noticed the gap in the trigger guard and ordered the new one.
I see a lot of people ragging on him for being able to squeeze the trigger while holstered. Guys, the problem is not only that your finger can get in there, the problem (more likely) is that debris can get in there! "I don't have any problems with that small opening!" That's cool, but IF you ever do, it'll be one heck of a realization! Imagine you go to grab your gun out of the holster to put it away for the night and the motion of grabbing the gun is just enough to push the trigger against some random debris that got caught up in the trigger guard! TOO RISKY!
Thank you, this is very, very important. I was also thinking if I was wearing this holster and became intangled in a grappling fight (rolling on the ground) either my clothing may get caught in the trigger guard or the bad guy could get his fingers in there) causing it to fire in the holster. You may argue that it will never happen, but you also would have said 12 months ago that cities across America would not be burning with fights and murders in the streets on a nighty basis.
but you're not suppose to have your finger on the trigger until you're ready to fire. You should use your thumb and the rest of your fingers while having your trigger finger on the outside of the trigger guard... Am I missing something?
It’s a marker that anything can get in there and make the gun go bang. It’s a requirement for an acceptable holster that it cover the trigger guard completely.
I was concerned about access to my handle when im carrying iwb. I thought the clip was too high as well. Do you recommend a better holster that hopefully has leather or a cushion option?
I wouldn't say that. I think he just has an obsession with safety. Which is not a bad thing. Firearms can be dangerous if handled incorrectly so it's important to be safety conscious at all times.
@@ASPextra I'd have to agree with you. That logic could really be applied to a lot of things in the industry. Consumers are really spoiled for choice these days I dont see any reason to "settle" for anything.
One thing not mentioned is that ‘hypothetically’ the trigger guard retention catch could hit the trigger at some point. That’s a huge safety concern. However I don’t keep a round chambered so it’s not an issue for me personally.
Ehh thing is though you really wanna be carrying with a round in the chamber. When you really need to use your gun you want it out and ready as quickly as possible. And having to chamber a round when you have to shoot someone is not a good time
I've been using this holster for almost a year now on my Ruger compact 9 and it's the best! Just need to know how to adjust the "lock" based on your gun and handling.
@Active Self Protection Extra wow you are just one of those guys people who thinks they are the smartest guy in the room . You may need to find another room. How
For those who are using this, I am just afraid that soft leather may touch trigger...is my worry valid? Ive seen that reviews are really good...and I am seriously considering a purchase.
Love mine for my 365X, one of the best holsters I've ever owned. If you can access the trigger while its locked into the trigger guard clip, you need to either adjust your retention or order the right size. I disagree strongly with your review, this is one of THE BEST OWB holsters on the market today.
I had similar thoughts when "She Equips Herself" was reviewing belly band holsters. She even mentioned she could pull the trigger directly through the fabric and she was still using it :/. But I don't know if secure belly bands even exist so I guess she was okay with the risk?
I've seen them where the fabric covering the trigger guard is reinforced. However, I still don't fully trust them with a pistol unless it's a heavy trigger pull, or double action pull
The crossbreed belly band has a Kydex insert and that’s what I use for summertime carry. You can also buy I think it’s called the SHE (soft holster enhancement?) that’s a plastic insert that fits most belly bands. It works though after about a year or so I had the adhesive fail so ymmv on that one
If you use DCC clips, you can just clip your regular kydex holster to the belly band. A trigger guard holster inside a belly band is another acceptable option.
John, I NEVER comment on any blog or video but I see an additional second danger to this holster and wanted your view on it. Isn't there a possibility that when the firearm is incerted into this holster, that that retainer mechanism could move past the trigger guard, push back the trigger, and cause the firearm to discharge? If debris fell into the holster, it could stop at the mechanism instead of dropping to (or through) the bottom of the holster, resulting an unwanted BANG. Mark Great videos. I sometimes watch 2 to 4 a day. They are addicting.
Sure beats the Serpa holsters that have a push-button release that can get jammed by a stone or other debris. This is simply a clip that has adjustable retention that won't keep you from drawing. It's not a bad holster at all. I had to at least try it.
@@NYVET48TFW maybe for compacts and sub compacts they work well. Would rather spend the money on something that I know will work. To me this is a gamble would be afraid to carry
@@bigcheese9096 I forgot to mention this, but if we are talking about INSIDE the waitsband (IWB), then the trigger 'gap' issue is a NON issue, because the entire trigger is below the beltline, I couldn't get my finger in the gap if I tried, and I actually DID try what John did but the trigger on my P365 is in so deep that I could not get the holster to 'expand' enough to get my finger past the trigger, in fact I couldn't even reach the trigger. So, like you said, it depends on the type and size of the gun, and even though my trigger is not 'completely' covered, it can't be accessed. This is by far the most comfortable holster I have EVER owned and I am 100% happy with it, and it's not even broken in yet.
I wanted to provide an update for everyone on this holster. I think John missed something, and that is that if this holster is to be used IWB, then there is no way for any 'strings' or the like to get caught in the trigger, the trigger is completely below the belt. Now of course this WILL depend on size of gun and trigger guard design, so I am speaking strictly about my Sig P365. It fits perfect though there IS that 'gap' where the trigger is not completely covered, but on the P365, the trigger itself is in the holster so deep that I could not even touch it, let alone get my finger in front of it to pull on it like John did. I can see that being a concern for an open carry (OWB) holster, but for IWB where the trigger is below your belt line and between your body and your pants, I don't see it as an issue especially since the fit is so tight that depending on the gun you might not even be able to put your finger in far enough to even touch the trigger. As for comfort, that won me over. The adjustable retention is great, the belt clip is almost TOO strong (a good thing), but the comfort is top level! I truly no longer feel like I am carrying, it's going to take some getting used to. It IS tight at first, mine is still breaking in but it's totally useable and totally comfortable. I personally recommend this but ONLY IF using IWB, I would not recommend using for OWB (open carry) as the trigger WILL be exposed ( again, depending on gun model/size). That's my two cents.
Hi John, Great video as always! Can you please do a review of the Urban Carry G3? I was considering getting it and really would love to hear (and see) your thoughts! Thanks!
Did you see how you forced yor finger into that small opening and that was with the holster off the belt . On the belt , the belt helps to cover the opening . You would have to put your finger behind the belt , then wiggle it through the gap , push the finger forward into the trigger guard and then pull the trigger .If you can do that , I am sureyou have never missed the G spot on a date .
You are using the holster in a manner in which it was not intended to be used. If you want to prove it's a bad design, 1) contact the company and verify they sent the correct holster 2) put it in your waist band and try to get a finger or jacket string in the trigger guard. It will be hard to do because the waist band of your paints will be covering the trigger guard protecting the trigger. Only thing that's currently on the fail boat is this review. Whoo whoo!
It’s black and white not covering the trigger!
If you conceal carry by walking around holding the holstered gun in your hand, then you are correct. BUT that is not how you correctly carry with an IWB holster now is it. When you carry the IWB holster INSIDE THE WAISTBAND like it is supposed to be used, your waistband covers and protects the trigger. The only thing black and white is the fact he didn't demonstrate the failure while correctly using the holster.
There's zero reason or excuse for an exposed trigger in a holster. Sooner or later someone will go to draw their firearm and their finger will hit the trigger. More likely in a panic situation I'm sure. It shouldn't be a possibility to happen. Ever.
@@jamesholder5725 can you provide the timestamp in the video where the holster was actually inside the waistband and the "failure" was demonstrated by trying to draw the gun? You can't because it was never shown. Why? Because he knew it can't be done. Anyone who thinks it could be done is as inexperienced as the reviewer.
@@mblinkous what's it matter if the holster was in the waistband at that point or not? People don't typically train unholstering and just grab and pull. The trigger should never be accessible in a holster. Whether it's sitting in his hand or in the waistband. I can't believe people are making excuses for this. It's a dangerous.
I own 5 of these and absolutely love them. Easily the best, most concealable, most comfortable OWB I’ve seen. Have had no issues with the trigger guard gap...you can adjust for a deeper insertion (though it costs you on retention). Retention, with a full mag, is amazing...I can shake the hoster upside down and the gun doesn’t come out. I would imagine that you can force your finger down into any leather holster once broken in if you really want to...that 1/2” of open guard isn’t going to make any difference. Any holster, guard coverage or no, is susceptible to having a tie string or shirt tail get caught down in the holster...it’s not going to get in there BECAUSE of the guard coverage (which does vary from gun to gun...one of the drawbacks of universal versus custom). Can’t speak to the clip...like I said, mine are all OWB (you slide your belt thorugh). I run Vedder Kydex for training, so I can see where the clip issue can come into play for those who use clips/paddles. But zero out of 10? I can deliberately run my car into a tree because there is no guard around my gas pedal...some of it has to come down to the safety between the ears.
I never would never carry my firearm in a IWB holster no matter who makes them .
“That’s fuckin interesting man! That’s fuckin interesting!” - The Dude
I have 3 OWB Lockleather 2's, one for my PMR 30, one for my 9mm Shield, and one for snub nose J Frame. Love them all, zero issues. The Shield I had to break in a bit, it was tight, but now it's like a glove. I highly recommend these holsters.
Can force your finger down inside the hoster to fire the gun with it not on your belt but then b**** that your belt covers up too much of the handle that you don't like it W as the belt is covering up your handle too much it's covering up the g****** trigger 2 dumb a**
Big 🧠 on Brad...
Pulp fiction your correct i agree 💯% mine is iwb love the holster I'ma get 1 of the owb to try it. I had to take my holster to the leather shop & have them move the clip up which lets the holster sit lower along my waist/belt line maybe a little harder to draw the gun but it's way more concealed/comfy rarely do I have to draw the gun so I'd rather go with making the holster more comfortable 🤷
Mine works good for my Walther 9mm. It cover the trigger completely. The only real issue I see is the belt clip which could slip off the belt but that hasn't happened to me and hopefully won't! Thanks for the review John!
I just got one for my Springfield 1911 Emissary and it works fine. I’ve only had one outing with it so far but it was quite comfortable and it holds the pistol in place pretty good. Though my holster is a little different from yours. Mine has the slots for running a belt through and is a little wider. One small complaint I have with it is that when I draw the gun from it there are tiny flakes of leather on the gun. Maybe it’s because it’s new but I hope it stops. I don’t want the internals getting gummed up with leather particles. No other leather holster I’ve ever owned for my other guns has ever had this problem.
Had one for my 45. Loved it. No issues at all. I sold the gun and holster as a package. And ill be ordering me another holster from them.
I would suggest upgrading to a better holster.
@@ASPextra because of your sample size of *one*? Lol. Did you miss the dozens of other comments from people who *didn't* have the issue(s) you had?
Holsters are like underwear, what works for one person will be garbage for another (and the opposite as well).
Honestly you need the add a 4th criteria to your list: excellent CS and easy returns. The best appendix carry holster for you would be useless trash for me (i can't appendix carry. At all). Being able to try it with your specific gun, on your specific body, with your specific wardrobe is vital IMO and coughing up 80-150$ each time I want to try one out isn't very sustainable for most of us.
@Active Self Protection Extra "upgrade to a better holster". He said he loved it. Plain and simple. From all the comments in here I would say you are not the be all end all to holster selection..
@@bp968i really like the look of this holster. i might try to find a list of which guns fit it best before choosing a gun. sounds like most guns will work good with it and there's just a rare few that don't fit it as well.
@Jack_80 I probably wouldn't go as far as picking my gun based on the holster i liked, but in this case it won't limit you much. It fits all the normal glock models, all the normal M&P models, Normal SIG models, and most normal 1911 models. By "normal" I mean stuff people usually carry. Your unlikely to find one that fits an IMI Micro UZI or a B&T MP9, etc.
I have the OWB model (IWB is just to uncomfortable with my medical issues) and wear it with a Gen 4 Glock 19 MOS with raised sights and an RMR optic installed. Fits great.
I love this holster it works great for me. I already knew you were going to rag on it from the start I just came for some entertainment.
Well, this “gimmick” works for 100% of mine and the fit and finish are better than any other holster I’ve seen.
@@jasonands1962 works for me for my Jericho 941 R I love it
Did not work for my Glock 20 sits to low in the holster couldn't get my hand completely on the grip an mag release was covered by the leather an would release my mag with certain movement, fail for my gun then need to make them specifically for each gun, will stick with my crossbreed an chest holster till find a good owb holster
@@ryantowers2313 love my g23 in mine personally
@@dca1981 awesome that's a smaller gun so diff size holster awesome that it worked for you, honestly I was bummed it didn't for my g20
Thanks for your brutal honesty John! I have an OWB and kinda like it.
Just because it doesn’t fit well with your gun doesn’t mean it’s a “fail” for everyone else mine is perfectly fine for the Glock 19 even clears my suppressor height sights and fits snug no problem and the retention adjustment is great
It's a total fail.
@@ASPextra idk so far I have zero problems but that’s besides the point. I plan on getting another holster because I am adding a light to my Glock. What holster would you recommend?????????
@@Nameschino Check out Tier 1 Concealed, I’ve had nothing good experience with them.
@@brian_b_music yes sir that was a year ago i now have the slim for my glock 19 and a xiphos v2 for my sig p365 xl. I absolutely love Tier 1
@@Nameschino Nice bro! I got the Agis, but I’m not too crazy about the sidecar. I ended up taking it off. I’m about to get the Xiphos myself.
Brutal but honest. I would hate to be running that company. But if I did, I would be paying attention to reviews like these that have been out for years and produce a quality product that checked all the boxes. Seems there are too many outfits selling garbage holsters trying to get a piece of thw CCW market.
How is it possible that this dude can get his finger in the trigger when he claims to not be able to access the gun IWB? 🤔
This guy is the original Detroit Self Protection. LOL
I have one for my CZ 2075 RAMI, and my Walther PPKS and I love them both. I highly recommend them.
Well.....how bright can you be? You bought a CZ. Then this holster is perfect for you.
@@barrygoldwater2441 Not sure I get your comment. Was that a complement or snub?
@@d.a.hammerfire4023 Exactly.
You needed to go WAY out of your way to cause the fail. I have four of these. Never have I tried to do what you did. I have found these holsters to be the best I have ever used.
I have several of these holsters and have never had a problem accidentally discharging the gun from the draw. This is not a fail…your draw is!
I have the same one for my p365 and I dont have anyone of those problems. So I dont know must be your gun! Lol and I love it. Very comfortable as well.
Simple Kydex, belt loops or hook clip (or even shirt tuck clip if you must), with tension adjustment made by a good holster manufacturer is all you need. I tried many and ALWAYS have gone back to Kydex.
I'm with you. Kydex is not uncomfortable at all for me. It seems like the leather and material backed holsters would be 1) too hot and sweaty and cause irritation 2) I feel that the soft material would bunch up all my stuff. I don't want my stuff all bunched up.
You're so right, its amazing that there wasnt ever holsters until kydex came along.
I have one for my m&P shield plus optic. covers entire trigger and is a fantastic holster for inside waistband.
do you have to use it inside the waistband or can you clip it on the other way to have it on the outside. i've haven't owned a gun yet and am just curious.
@@Jack_80 You would buy an OWB (outside waistband) holster if you wanted to carry on the outside. The clip on the IWBs are meant to clip around the bottom of your belt, so reversing it would lead to retention issues.
First of all, the holster has no issues, it works great and is comfortable. I am glad I did not see this before I bought it, it may have deterred me. I have same gun and same holster as shown in video, no issue with exposed trigger or fear of getting to trigger. and the holster works great. In fact I like the tiny gap and it lets me take out magazine without taking it out of holster. I have no idea what the rant in video is about, my guess is this is a personal grudge.
You’re wrong.
@@ASPextra ok, I will make a video and add link here.
Of all reviews I have seen on urban carry holsters, most of the people that own them love them. So they must be good holsters.
Most people don't really know what a decent holster is.
the gap over the trigger can actually be alot worse for other guns. I got a shield and I got a chance to see the holster for it and oh my god. Absolutely not. I'll pass on these.
I think a major drawback of this holster is that they are not made for each pistol specifically. One size holster fits several different pistols. If you get lucky, yours might fit perfectly with the entire trigger guard covered but you won't know till you get it.
Urban Carry plainly states that the holster needs to be molded to the pistol. I have 2 OWB and 1 IWB Lock Leathers and they fit like gloves on the pistols in them. All 3 get 10 out of 10. The Urban G3 is another story at least for me. 2 out of 10.
I have the IWB and OWB holsters for my SAR 9 Compact and have none of those issues. I think you ordered the wrong holster.
I have 2 lock leather holsters. Also, I keep my trigger finger extended when drawing my weapon. The little teeny opening does not come into play. You should retract your weapon properly.
You missed the point.
@@ASPextra It seems a lot of people in this comment section missed the point. You should do another video showing how this is a problem when wearing the holster, rather than holding it out in front of you.
Yeah, but "the footsteps of a Navy Seal...", c'mon man...
You're brutal on Urban Carry lol. I believe this is the second review, you would think the company would listen to the ppl and fix their issues. Thank you for the honest review. God Bless.
I have found that these companies that advertise extensively on Facebook and sell these el-cheapo holsters don't really listen to their customers.
dude got sent the wrong sized holster and rather than send it back he goes into full blown tier 1 Karen mode.. just send it back and get the right size..mine covers fine
whats going on Jay Flo. I can personally guarantee we listen to our customers. Each holster is made to accommodate a few different firearms based of the dimensions. Some will sit higher in the holster and some will sit lower. Just depends on the size. I actually hear the opposite from customers. They want it to sit higher so they can get a better grip on the firearm when drawing. We are not knocking this review at all. That was his personal feelings about the holster and we appreciate his honestly.
@@richardc7094 Greatly appreciate your reply, but my comment was solely on his second review of your Holsters. I do not own any so I can not say they do not work properly? I just found it funny and weird he / among other RUclipsrs would be so critical. Instead of giving feedback on how to better the product. It's been said numerous times that urban carry is a fail Holster. G1 and G2. But once again I don't own any of your products, but watching videos like this make any consumer not even want to purchase one. Do to how low of rating review they give it. I do thank you for taking the time to reply. That in itself shows you guys are listening.
I have one for M&P Shield 2.0 and my Beretta 92X...Both cover the trigger completely. I just believe they sold you the wrong holster. I do agree with your concerns, but you must have the wrong holster. I just ordered a third for my micro 9, let's see if it is good to go...
Thanks for info. Was looking at that exact combo
I have 3 and all cover the triggers. 2 Kimbers and a Spring Field XDM Elite
Of course you have them for Kimbers and XDs.
Fnx 45 fits fine. Easy pull, comfortable. So I think to summarize, it's all about the pistol you have.
FACT: That String issue on coats and jackets is a real issue. I have started cutting them off because they hang up on everything.
Truth!! however I think that Karen got the wrong sized holster and should return it for the proper sized (human error) instead of going full blown retard on this. Mine covers perfectly .
I ordered and received one just like that one, left handed IWB. I immediately sent it back.
The holster is really well made, and very comfortable. The reason I sent it back, was not the slight opening in the trigger guard- frankly, I just don't remember if there was one- but the way the holster RIDES on my belt. The clip in NOT adjustable, or I might still have it. It's strictly made as a low ride holster. I'm a big guy, and no matter how I tried, it was quite difficult to get a purchase on, and draw the gun. Furthermore, I contacted them about making the holster in a high ride configuration, and lets just say they were uninterested.
I have two owb. Both work great. Both covers trigger guard. Maybe its just the iwb type that is flawed.
John has been biased against Urban Carry ever since he reviewed their first holster, which I agree wasn't the best design for a BWB (Below Waist Band) holster.
I am more than satisfied with both of my Urban Carry holsters that I carry my trusty and reliable EDC Taurus PT111 Millennium G2 in. I got the G2 Lieutenant black in early 2016 and the IWB LockLeather 205-R black in late 2019 and I have zero complaints about either of them.
Dude, I am biased against bad designs and crap holsters. Full stop.
Come on, it is poorly done.
@@ASPextra For starts in your video of the first Urban Carry you were using it completely wrong.
Second the way you "Forced" your trigger finger into the LockLeather to actuate the trigger was moronic and irrelevant. As you pointed out later due to the belt clip being higher on the holster the gap between the firearm's grip and the holster's trigger well is shielded by your belt. Not to mention that it's the firearm owner's responsibility to make sure that there are no obstructions or anything else to interfere with the firearm while reholstering it.
You clearly didn't even think about the WHY. I am not talking about putting a finger in there, but about FOD getting in there. Come on, do better.
Didn't I state a basic of Firearm Safety training?
The firearm owner/wielder is responsible for all negligent discharges of the firearm they are wielding or have on their person.
This includes making sure that there are no obstructions or anything else that will interfere with the firearm's operation while holstering it.
They actually have an ad that shows the holster not covering the trigger guard. I knew it was trash because of these videos. Thanks John!
I got one and the only thing I ran into was the lock part was to locky. Trying to draw took way too much effort, in fact if I didn’t weigh 210 lbs I would be lifting myself of the ground to get it to release. I ended up taking the tension screw completely out. I can now draw with less effort and it still locks in place. I’m not endorsing it I’m just making it work.
Same it’s good
Hey GH Hunter. As a Rep for Urban Carry I recommend putting the retention screw back in the holster. Please feel free to contact me at support@urbancarryholsters.com and we could go through some trouble shooting steps.
Mine covers it idk, no problem with getting at it ether however mines for a 1911 , one of the best hosters I've seen
Just picked this up for one of my usp compacts, super comfy appendix carry. And I can swing a 1.5 second draw with it no problem
I just bought the IWB and I like it
Thanks for the insight. Also, it’s scary to see bullet holes in the ceiling. How do you miss that badly!?
Pretty much every indoor public range I’ve been too looks that way.
Someone who has never shot before or select fire to name two reasons. Either case they probably had to pay for it in some way.
Have seen it happen with stuff like 500 magnums, it can happen when recoil causes a flinch and you put a second round into the ceiling. Disconcerting to say the least
I seen it with my own eyes! Guy buys new AR, the store installs a red dot and he proceeds to shoot the ceiling at their range. Yes the red dot Was off that bad!!
Accidental Double-firing with a light trigger or attempts to rapid fire.
I really like my owb lock leather. It’s great
It’s not though.
What do you carry owb
I carry a safariland ALS holster for work. It's a much better holster and really not much more expensive.
@@shelbyprice7790 Check some of these out. activeselfprotection.com/75164-2/
@@ASPextra ... None are OWB...
I own many. I’ve had no issues.
I have 2 of the Urban Carry Holsters for different firearms and they work perfectly. I love UCH and the customer service is phenomenal.
Using your criteria, I got a Ghost III retention holster for my Glock 17. It passes all your tests. I am confident w my EDC in it.
You were either sent the wrong holster on accident and need to confirm it’s correct with the company or you didn’t adjust it accordingly because at first the leather will be stiff/tight.
Thank you for the video. How does it conceal?
It's a fail so I wouldn't even try it.
@@ASPextra thanks for the reply, you saved me some money
You work at getting your finger inside the holster. When you draw do you have your index finger pointed straight out?
You missed the point entirely.
I have to disagree with you on this holster, I have glock 26 gen 5, glock 42,M&P 2.0, and M&P Shield all with lock leather iwb and owb holsters. Triggers are totally covered, very comfortable, have no problems with them, when leather breaks in still holds the fire arm securely. In your case of the iwb holster when the holding clip goes around the belt the pants waist band covers the opening you mentioned ,when holster is in place and u draw there is no way your trigger finger will come in contact with the trigger, besides your finger should not be on the trigger until your ready to fire. Anyway to me it's a great holster I like it better than the kydex ones.
John, I just purchased an urban carry IWB holster for my Springfield Hellcat and it does cover the trigger completely. I do agree with you , however, that the holster clip sits a little low, causing the holster to sit higher up on the waist which makes it a little more difficult to conceal.
I use the own for my 365 and canick combat and love em,I'm not s big iwb guy but I also have the own for my 365 and have had 0 problems and love em.
They definitely sent you the wrong one,the triggers on each pistol I use in the 4 lock leather holsters I've got completely cover the triggers by far.
John, I think the UC outlook is to have the gun as low as possible in the paints. That is why you may not like how low it sits. I would like to see them make it canter to put it at an angle and cover the trigger better then it would be worth it.
If it's too low to get a full grip on, it's not useful for concealed carry.
New series idea, just John roasting crappy gun gear 😂. We'll call it "All Aboard the Fail Boat"
Good idea. Just imagine the crossover episode with Tundra Tactical.
The problem is, moderating comments is miserable because everyone on the internet is an expert and knows better. This is one of the big reasons RUclipsrs do so few critical product reviews.
@@ASPextra very, very, very true.
This is the only holster I use OWB lock leather to each his own
I love that it’s an add before a fail video of their product.
lol
Was just about to buy one after watching their ad good thing I decided to do my own research thank you !!
Glad I could help!
@@ASPextra looking forward to your review on the G3 holster. You think the trigger guard lock is safe?
@@nyuu444 ***crickets***
“All aboard the Fail Boat. Woot! Woot!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So the belt covers the " opening " that you worked your finger into , making it " a fail " . What is it really , you can get your finger in for a discharge or you cant get good contact on the grip ? It's one or the other cant be both .
It can be both depending on your priority. His priority is he wants 100% trigger guard coverage. In my opinion, while that is optimal, that may not always be possible especially if you carry with a WML where holster manufacturers are forced to have more of an opening in the holster. The trigger guard coverage should be great enough that you have 100% confidence that it will not be pulled negligently.
Space between the top of the belt and the grip is a very real consideration. Especially if you use the Scott Jedlinski "stab" down to get a claw grip, you need adequate space to allow your fingers to drive down into that space. Scott explains that in this video at 7:30-8:00 ruclips.net/video/5Csqb8lw5ek/видео.html
@@concealedcarryworks7374 Did you see how he forced his finger into that small opening and that was with the holster off his belt . On the belt , the belt helps to cover the opening . He would have to put his finger behind the belt , then wiggle it ithrough the gap , push the finger forward into the trigger guard and then pull the trigger .If he can do that I am sure he has never missed the G spot on a date .
I bought an OWB that I wanted to use around the house. It's does cover the trigger, retention is good, but when you draw the pistol, the holster sort of collapses on itself making re-holstering very difficult and unsafe unless you take the holster off. The holster is currently in a drawer.
would a left hand thumb pull not do you? RL situations re-holstering does not seem the biggest issue unless your doing practice drills...
thank goodness i saw this before I bought one for my gun. now to check out your other videos on the urban carry line.
My big issue is I do not want any part of the holster going inside my trigger guard...
Hey Shawn, nothing actually goes across the inside of the trigger guard. If you are curious how it properly works please message me at support@urbancarryholsters.com. I can give you a run down on how your firearm locks in.
I bought the IWB for my M&P 40, and I have the same problem: doesn't cover trigger guard and sits with the handle right on my belt so I can't get a grip. I gave it a bad review, and it lives in a drawer. Waiting for my Dark Star in the mail.
@@papimaximus95 I didn't know better a few months ago when I bought it. Did further research to find out it wasn't me, but the holster making it hard to draw. Then I saw another holster review and noticed the gap in the trigger guard and ordered the new one.
A buddy of mine and I just saw an ad this evening on this very holster. Thanks for the review, John.
You're welcome!
Don't buy holsters from companies that don't train ;)
Nothing wrong with their holsters... . I have several.
I see a lot of people ragging on him for being able to squeeze the trigger while holstered. Guys, the problem is not only that your finger can get in there, the problem (more likely) is that debris can get in there!
"I don't have any problems with that small opening!" That's cool, but IF you ever do, it'll be one heck of a realization!
Imagine you go to grab your gun out of the holster to put it away for the night and the motion of grabbing the gun is just enough to push the trigger against some random debris that got caught up in the trigger guard! TOO RISKY!
Thank you, this is very, very important. I was also thinking if I was wearing this holster and became intangled in a grappling fight (rolling on the ground) either my clothing may get caught in the trigger guard or the bad guy could get his fingers in there) causing it to fire in the holster. You may argue that it will never happen, but you also would have said 12 months ago that cities across America would not be burning with fights and murders in the streets on a nighty basis.
Kydex, AIWB, preferably with a sidecar. For the win!
Minimal drop length, off belt, single strap, for sidearm carry with a plate carrier.
but you're not suppose to have your finger on the trigger until you're ready to fire. You should use your thumb and the rest of your fingers while having your trigger finger on the outside of the trigger guard... Am I missing something?
It’s a marker that anything can get in there and make the gun go bang. It’s a requirement for an acceptable holster that it cover the trigger guard completely.
I carry a S&W 45 Pro series. My Urban 201-R passes on all points. Very comfortable.
Oh my lord! I have the same set up also!!
Thanks for sharing. Hopefully the company will listen and fix the issues...
I kinda doubt it, but one can hope!
I fell for the marketing of this holster. Couldn’t get my G23 to lock in. Never got to use it.
John, what IWB would you recommend? I want something comfortable like leather.
We have a list of holster makers we recommend here: activeselfprotection.com/holsters/
I am currently carrying in a Dark Star Gear Orion.
I love that RUclips keeps running Urban Carry advertisements before John's videos. You should link this review to every video you post!
John, you did something that made me curious. Do you wear OWB holsters inside the belt?
No it’s an IWB I just lost my mind in titling.
@@ASPextra copy. Sadly, I know people that would wear that as an OWB, so I thought I would ask. I wish everyone would follow your holster guidance.
What are your qualifications? Ie; what makes you an expert? Retired Marine just wondering?
Not directly related, but something I have been wondering about. Which is better, open or closed muzzle end of the holster?
Does this issue pop up on any of the other pistols? Maybe the G3c or Shield or Glock 43x, ? Or any pistols
Isn't that an Inside the Waist Band holster? How high should the leather rise up?
Am getting my CCW soon what holster would u recommend for me Smith and Wesson. And if you have time also what new gun would be a good idea to use
Depends on the model of Smith.
@@ASPextra right now I have the full size MP. But want to get also something smaller
activeselfprotection.com/75164-2/ has a list of good holster makers for a M&P.
Are you going say the same about safarilands?
The light bearing version, yes.
Maybe it’s just a mistake, everyone seems to like their holster. The reviews are quite good.
People don’t know what they don’t know, and put up with poor performance because UC markets well.
I was concerned about access to my handle when im carrying iwb. I thought the clip was too high as well. Do you recommend a better holster that hopefully has leather or a cushion option?
We have a list of holster makers we recommend here: activeselfprotection.com/holsters/ they're all quality options
This makes the second holster I've bought because of your "review " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey if you want to waste money, who am I to stop you?
Because you're a numbskull.
John's such a holster snob! 😂🤣😂🤣
I wouldn't say that. I think he just has an obsession with safety. Which is not a bad thing. Firearms can be dangerous if handled incorrectly so it's important to be safety conscious at all times.
There are so many acceptable choices on the market, that settling for an unacceptable choice simply because they market well is no bueno.
@@ASPextra I'd have to agree with you. That logic could really be applied to a lot of things in the industry. Consumers are really spoiled for choice these days I dont see any reason to "settle" for anything.
What IWB holster do you recommend.
We have a list of holster makers we recommend here: activeselfprotection.com/holsters/
I am currently carrying in a Dark Star Gear Orion.
Best holster I’ve ever owned.
One thing not mentioned is that ‘hypothetically’ the trigger guard retention catch could hit the trigger at some point. That’s a huge safety concern.
However I don’t keep a round chambered so it’s not an issue for me personally.
Why dont you have one chambered? Theres really no reason to not have one ready to go
Ehh thing is though you really wanna be carrying with a round in the chamber. When you really need to use your gun you want it out and ready as quickly as possible. And having to chamber a round when you have to shoot someone is not a good time
I've been using this holster for almost a year now on my Ruger compact 9 and it's the best! Just need to know how to adjust the "lock" based on your gun and handling.
It’s not good man.
@@ASPextra you're not good man be fair with products
@Active Self Protection Extra wow you are just one of those guys people who thinks they are the smartest guy in the room
@Active Self Protection Extra wow you are just one of those guys people who thinks they are the smartest guy in the room . You may need to find another room. How
For those who are using this, I am just afraid that soft leather may touch trigger...is my worry valid? Ive seen that reviews are really good...and I am seriously considering a purchase.
No it is not good. Don't waste your money.
@@ASPextra thanks for the heads up. Sticking with kydex.
I was going to order one for my new FN 45 tactical, thanks for the video I will shop for something else.
Can you review the Concealment Express holster? Thank you.
YES!! What this guy said!
Looking on their website, the design at least appears to meet the requirements for a holster. So that's good!
Love mine for my 365X, one of the best holsters I've ever owned. If you can access the trigger while its locked into the trigger guard clip, you need to either adjust your retention or order the right size. I disagree strongly with your review, this is one of THE BEST OWB holsters on the market today.
I did both. Neither made it work.
What holster would you recommend?
We have a list of holster makers we recommend here: activeselfprotection.com/holsters/
I am currently carrying in a Dark Star Gear Orion.
I had similar thoughts when "She Equips Herself" was reviewing belly band holsters. She even mentioned she could pull the trigger directly through the fabric and she was still using it :/. But I don't know if secure belly bands even exist so I guess she was okay with the risk?
I've seen them where the fabric covering the trigger guard is reinforced. However, I still don't fully trust them with a pistol unless it's a heavy trigger pull, or double action pull
The Unity Clutch lets you put a holster in the pouches. Only one I've seen that I would personally use.
The crossbreed belly band has a Kydex insert and that’s what I use for summertime carry. You can also buy I think it’s called the SHE (soft holster enhancement?) that’s a plastic insert that fits most belly bands. It works though after about a year or so I had the adhesive fail so ymmv on that one
If you use DCC clips, you can just clip your regular kydex holster to the belly band. A trigger guard holster inside a belly band is another acceptable option.
John,
I NEVER comment on any blog or video but I see an additional second danger to this holster and wanted your view on it.
Isn't there a possibility that when the firearm is incerted into this holster, that that retainer mechanism could move past the trigger guard, push back the trigger, and cause the firearm to discharge? If debris fell into the holster, it could stop at the mechanism instead of dropping to (or through) the bottom of the holster, resulting an unwanted BANG.
Mark
Great videos. I sometimes watch 2 to 4 a day. They are addicting.
I think it shouldn’t be that long but it’s not impossible.
Was looking at purchasing one for my canik. Decided not too, that retention "clip" made me nervous
Sure beats the Serpa holsters that have a push-button release that can get jammed by a stone or other debris. This is simply a clip that has adjustable retention that won't keep you from drawing. It's not a bad holster at all. I had to at least try it.
@@NYVET48TFW maybe for compacts and sub compacts they work well. Would rather spend the money on something that I know will work. To me this is a gamble would be afraid to carry
@@bigcheese9096 definitely agree with you there. I have a 'micro-compact' (P365) as an EDC.
@@bigcheese9096 I forgot to mention this, but if we are talking about INSIDE the waitsband (IWB), then the trigger 'gap' issue is a NON issue, because the entire trigger is below the beltline, I couldn't get my finger in the gap if I tried, and I actually DID try what John did but the trigger on my P365 is in so deep that I could not get the holster to 'expand' enough to get my finger past the trigger, in fact I couldn't even reach the trigger. So, like you said, it depends on the type and size of the gun, and even though my trigger is not 'completely' covered, it can't be accessed. This is by far the most comfortable holster I have EVER owned and I am 100% happy with it, and it's not even broken in yet.
Could you recommend a owb leather holster to were for work on farm ?
We have a list of holster makers we recommend here: activeselfprotection.com/holsters/
I am currently carrying in a Dark Star Gear Orion.
I always tuck my shirt in. Is there a holster that would be a good fit for me. I use a shield with optics.
Tuck struts make almost any holster a tuckable holster.
Vedder light tuck works very well with my shield. But mine doesn’t have optics.
I wanted to provide an update for everyone on this holster. I think John missed something, and that is that if this holster is to be used IWB, then there is no way for any 'strings' or the like to get caught in the trigger, the trigger is completely below the belt. Now of course this WILL depend on size of gun and trigger guard design, so I am speaking strictly about my Sig P365. It fits perfect though there IS that 'gap' where the trigger is not completely covered, but on the P365, the trigger itself is in the holster so deep that I could not even touch it, let alone get my finger in front of it to pull on it like John did. I can see that being a concern for an open carry (OWB) holster, but for IWB where the trigger is below your belt line and between your body and your pants, I don't see it as an issue especially since the fit is so tight that depending on the gun you might not even be able to put your finger in far enough to even touch the trigger. As for comfort, that won me over. The adjustable retention is great, the belt clip is almost TOO strong (a good thing), but the comfort is top level! I truly no longer feel like I am carrying, it's going to take some getting used to. It IS tight at first, mine is still breaking in but it's totally useable and totally comfortable. I personally recommend this but ONLY IF using IWB, I would not recommend using for OWB (open carry) as the trigger WILL be exposed ( again, depending on gun model/size). That's my two cents.
Thank you! I seen the gap in the pictures and it’s the first thing you addressed. Won’t be purchasing. Thank you for your informative video.
Hi John, Great video as always! Can you please do a review of the Urban Carry G3? I was considering getting it and really would love to hear (and see) your thoughts! Thanks!
It's in the queue!
Awesome assessment!!! Thanks again John!!
What leather OWB would you recommend?
BIG FAILURE I agree John ❗🇺🇸
If security is your only concern then a level 3 kydex is your only choice. For the rest of us we will enjoy something like this.
I have one , it is great holster , does what it advertised , if I have to work my finger into the trigger guard to cause a discharge , I'm the idiot .
So you missed the point.
@@ASPextra no I did not miss your point . But thanks for thinking so .
Did you see how you forced yor finger into that small opening and that was with the holster off the belt . On the belt , the belt helps to cover the opening . You would have to put your finger behind the belt , then wiggle it through the gap , push the finger forward into the trigger guard and then pull the trigger .If you can do that , I am sureyou have never missed the G spot on a date .