I was on TV and people said unhinged stuff about me
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- I was on SBS Insight to talk about why I don't want children and why I'm childfree and antinatalist. The comments online about me were... bizarre.
I'm just having some fun with this. If you want to see the full episode, it's available via the links below.
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I love the ad-homs, sometimes they’re genuinely entertaining!
My favourite has to be ‘squeaky voice and femmo features’. That person was not happy.
Congrats on completing your PhD! It's a Big Deal! The comments are kind of dial-a-cliché, of course. My Aunt Natasha told me once when we were discussing this when I was a teen and she was in her late 60s that the point of having children was to have them care for you in your old age, and I said, "Like, uh, slaves?" She was not amused, but that crystallized my certainty about not reproducing, ha! Well done on presenting your case; I'm sure it gave viewers food for thought. : )
Thank you on both counts! It sounds like overall my message was well received, but there are of course always going to be the weird comments!
Comprehension, as per usual, appears to be the isue here. It would appear as though people hear one thing they dislike and all they hear whilst you're speaking is their own voice coming up with counter arguments which means they never actually listened to you in the first place. I find what you originally said was clear, consise and lacking in neither clarity or reason. Great video as usual.
Thank you!
One problem is that even though childbearing is a painful and dangerous endeavor, most women believe that having children is part of their reason for being. The bond between woman and child is the strongest in the world. There are not many young females that do not want children. And also somebody needs to do it to preserve human existence on this planet.
But I respect your position because, like you I never wanted children either and I am now 77 years old with just a few friends and only one living relative that lives over 1000 miles away.
It is a problem, but I am dealing with it every day.
I appreciate you sharing this. I was lucky to find someone who shared my views on this. Honestly, I had almost given up.
Great video about a topic that people don't talk about enough.
Perfect timing. I was actually just now talking to my BFF about her having MORE kids. She listened to me. Hopefully she considers my words and her and her husband decide to not have any more kids.
So glad to see you have more time to make videos! Your channel was one of them that made me want to start a channel
Oh that's so cool to hear!
You have no right to exercise free will based on rationale. You must conform to social norms and biological instincts. You must play your part and exacerbate the suffering. Resistance will be futile. Thank you.
Can't stop won't stop.
I agree with you that having kids is something most people don't spend much time thinking about. Most people believe what they grew up with/were taught, so they go through life on autopilot not questioning their beliefs and assumptions: eating animal products, following specific religious beliefs, having kids, etc. I'm not an anti-natalist, but I do find it shocking how little thought people put into having kids. Let's face it, there are many fewer adults who want kids who _should_ have them.
I genuinely think that it's so sad that people will instantly judge someone who is antinatalist (or vegan - or both, in the worst case) without even trying to think about the other person's reasons and motives behind that decision. They just shut down and aren't even open to discuss or explain their views.
These comments were funny but also depressing.
Thank you. It’s so refreshing to hear rational thoughts on the topic most people never think about. And incredibly sad that all those people go out of the way to convince you to increase human density even more instead of saying thank you. Do they not understand that they are shooting their children in the foot? Do they not understand that more people means less jobs for their children, more pollution, less food, less water, and overall more difficult life.
Lmao, people are INSANE.
So many people trying to personally insult you maximally, because you just raise a valid ethical question. Jesus christ. Thanks for doing what you do!
Good on you for being on SBS, mate! And for helping spread the antinatalist message.
They don't get it my friend, but many will when they go through hard suffering, or approach death, maybe then they will reflect on their choices. I view child rearing as one of the most selfish acts imaginable, given what we all suffer just to live on this cursed rock. Keep it up, you have a lot of support out here.
It’s easy to be angry and bitter when vehemently defending the moral low ground.
Why do you want to prevent suffering in the world? Why do you feel obligated to do so? What's your meta ethichal framework and why?
Great video btw
Thanks! Classical, total hedonistic utilitarian.
@@spacescienceguy I feel like I'm somewhat in the same boat, but lately I'm having trouble grounding that meta ethichal framework for myself. I lack that feeling of obligation that I used to have in the past in regards to effective suffering prevention.
I'm continuously thinking about it, and the more I do, the less confident I become. Maybe im missing some crucial parts in this puzzle.
(I'm not planning on procreating or eating animal products either way)
Holy crap you know someones gay when he says meta ethical
Hedonistic utilitarian why not just say utilitatian dafuq does that even means
@@justanotherutuber3 My understanding is that utilitarian strictly speaking just means that you care about maximising utility, while the hedonistic specifies what that utility is (wellbeing). I guess most people mean that when they say utilitarian, but you could probably have someone maximising something other than wellbeing and still technically be a utilitarian? I think?
Interesting comments. I find it strange that of all the things that you can choose not to do in life, this one is singled out as being selfish. Really, it makes no sense. It’s not like there’s a bunch of ghost foetuses screaming “we wanna be born!!!”
Might have stolen that from Ricky Gervais. 😉
What's the weirdest thing someone has said to you for not wanting kids?
That I'll never be happy. lol
David benatar! That guy needs to stop guilt tripping others from having kids. XD
It blows my mind that people have to say something about having kids or not. Why the hell people have to pressure each other into having kids, it is a personal decision... And it SHOULD be a decision, not just something everyone does just because they feel like it's what they are expected to do...
“You probably just don’t want to lose your figure. It’s ok, you can get a surrogate” 🤦🏻♀️
That I have committed suicide, by not passing on my genes, but I failed to see the downside.
David Lands really got bothered by you 😂
😂 indeed
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Vegan for the animals 💚
Haha enjoyed this mate
What are your thoughts on Hume's is-ought gap?
I kind of take the Sam Harris approach. If the word bad means anything at all, it must surely apply to the worst possible universe of maximum suffering. And moving in the opposite direction must surely be good, if the word good means anything at all. And so if I care about making the universe less bad, I ought to do certain things.
Do you know about wild animals suffering? For the past few centuries humans have greatly reduced wild animal population by destroying forests. Less wild animals means less wild animal suffering. Even though non vegans contribute to the eternal suffering of domestic animals in farms,they at least reduce wild animal suffering. But what about vegans? Vegan babies have a much lower impact on both wild animal suffering and farm animals suffering. Why would it be unethical or morally bad for vegans to have kids.? I take mostly agnostic view. But intuitively I feel that vegan kids are morally neutral or maybe even morally good.
Yeah, I'd probably bite the bullet on that. Most wild animals would have terrifying lives that are probably not worth living. Land clearance probably does reduce wild-animal suffering by reducing total biomass, but I'd be skeptical that spending $500,000 on a kid is the most effective way to solve that problem vs say donating it to a charity that focuses on reducing WAS.
Would that mean that erasing all life on Earth would be good because we would eliminate suffering?
@@martaso643 It maybe morally good but no suffering in world will definitely come under at least morally neutral.
Because genius, is it still shoving somebody here without his conscent imposing all troubles on them and suffering?yes.so how can it be ethical, it might be the lesser of two evils but no way is it ethical but even if it is the right thing to do you cant tell me youd expect someone to know theyd be wronging their own child and still just proceed with it
@@martaso643 Yes
Are you making the claim that having kids is unethical? You personally not wanting to have kids maybe morally good or neutral. But making the claim bringing new humans to world is morally bad or unethical needs backing with epistemological evidence beyond no doubt.
Why evidence beyond doubt? Does the same hold for having kids?
@@spacescienceguy Yes! People who claim babies are morally good and people who claim babies are morally bad need to substantiate their claims. I'm agnostic but if I hear a convincing argument I'll take the claim as valid. :)
@@alphasophist9269 Fair! I'm not a hard antinatalist, but I think the opportunity cost argument is the strongest. The average impact of donating $500,000 to a highly effective charity seems orders of magnitude better than the average net impact of a random new human.
@@spacescienceguy I can't say which one is better but intuitively I feel having kids gives vegans a greater socio political representation in the human society and also who knows ,that random human under your parenting can become someone exceptional xD. But can also immensely disappoint you, so it's a high risk and can be high reward . That's why one should have 10kids lol jk!
@@alphasophist9269 But again, you can surely create more vegans with $500,000 of online ads or flyering than by having 1 kid.