I dont think the raid will fail. What the fuck will happen next? Now I will go watch his video discussing why the raid ends. I'll edit this comment with my thoughts after that I still dont think the raid will end in failure. Theres a possibility but honestly I dont see how things will go further if the raid does fail though. I agree with his points of tragic moments of heavy failure in prior arcs but I dont agree with the fact
@@kawiianimekitty7472 He likes to make bullsh*t Theories(that are well thought out but farfetched that Many times are proven true Because Oda also likes farfetched ideas)Its not his first time
I'm 100% convinced the only reason that arc exists was to set a precedent for when we get the real Davy Back Fight between the Straw Hats and the Red Haired Pirates.
@@YetiCoolBrother It also definitely serves a purpose to show us more of the culture of the pirate world, since we really didn't get to see any of that in Skypeia or Enies Lobby.
Hahaha stretch is an understatement! but it’s an interesting theory, I guess. If there are any A Song of Ice and Fire fans out there, this is a Preston Jacobs theory
I've been happily surprised by kid's behavior in the rooftop battle, being surprised by Luffy's and zoro's power, but not in a jealous way, being of support when necessary, observing the situation and after realizing that he cannot help against kaido, he immediately goes to deal with big mom, trusting the others to deal with kaido, and asking them to trust him to handle the situation and keep them separated.
@@rindoubaka1574 they were in the way of Kid's goal, none of them knew Kid or he had interest on the weak. Whats your point? What changes what he said?
@@xReisk Erm... he said that he's considerate and kind to those who haven't wronged him... I pointed out that he actively hurts innocent civilians who haven't wronged him... it's how he got such a high bounty. I'm sorry but I don't understand how you could misinterpret that in any way...
@@rindoubaka1574 I understand what you said... If civilians opposing to a pirate's bad actions/intentions isnt wronging him, then how do you call that? Im pretty sure in the current One Piece World almost every pirate aside few are despicable persons generally speaking.
The critique "Killer is doing more than his captian" may be intentional and Oda is not only giving Killer more depth and hype so his death is gonna have better effect, but also keeping Kid down for now so he can show of maybe after that?
Very few people think about One Piece in meta terms, trying to put themselves into Oda's shoes to figure out his reasoning and planning process. That definitely makes Morj one of a kind on RUclips.
@@obi3924 I would actually say that it works in Morj's favour. Magnets can repel and attract depending on circumstances. If Kid, who is opposed to alliance, were to unite a new crew, he would change his metaphorical polarity.
Morj's second "theory" is interesting because i always thought it was insane how supernovas were thought of out of the blue with unique character design and abilities so it might make sense
@@mfdoodoo6951 I think ppl just assumed that he has power because anything people can't explain usually comes as DF ability, He could have some kind of ability like Kumadori where he could enhance his muscles, not saying it is that but officially its not confirmed if he has DF ability
A couple things worth mentioning: Killer's name might have been Oda being lazy, but the rest of the character isn't. Killer was specifically introduced with a mask not because Oda was lazy with his design, but because Oda always intended on having him eat a S.M.I.L.E. If the readers know what Killer looks like without his mask, it would ruin the twist; so this is likely why he obscured it. We can also speculate that this is the reason why Killer is the only supernova without a Devil Fruit; he wouldn't be able to eat a S.M.I.L.E. if he already had powers. Plus, we know Oda had the concept of S.M.I.L.E. planed in Sabaody because we have an exchange between Doffy and Disco (the former slave house owner) where Doffy exclaims that the slave trade is old and "smiles" are in. Additionally, I forget when this happened (this was either during the timeskip or leading up to Wano) but Oda stated in an interview that one of the things he was looking forward to drawing was Killer without his mask, which we now know was because of the reveal of him eating a S.M.I.L.E. So I wouldn't call Oda "lazy" with Killer's character concept, just lazy with his name. The direction he was planned to go was more or less planned out from the start. That said, I do find it interesting that both Apoo and Hawkins fit Kid's crew design of gothic punk rock; Apoo because of his fruit and Hawkins because of his gothic horror theme. Granted, this was a connection Oda might have realized down the line, given that I always expected Apoo to be one of the Supernovas he figured would "drop out" post-timeskip, but out of the 7 remaining captains, those 2 are the best fit.
Even his name can be tied together with his laugh as rock music reference as others have pointed out before, so even if his name is lazy oda still put some thought into it throughout the process of making these past hundreds of chapters
Nice points. I also don't believe Killer will die. He will be important later. There's another reason why Oda hide his face, maybe he belong to Third Eye Tribe.
Also as Kidd is a rival to Luffy, Killer could be a rival to Zoro, that's why probably he doesn't have a devil fruit. Zoro and killer are the only supernovas without a devil's fruit. Of course Zoro is stronger than Killer but Oda probably will want to show the grow-up in Kidd's crew
i think kid, in some way, would save the other supernovas, apoo and hawkins, but i dont think its fitting for his attitude to invite them to be his crewmates. but to make it still work, hawkins and apoo might make the initiative of offering themselves to kidd
Killer is on a punk aesthetic pirate crew, with a laugh that fits the lyrics to the famous punk anthem psycho killer by talking heads, "Psycho Killer, Qu'est-ce que c'est, Fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-far better, Run, run, run, run, run, run, run away oh, oh, oh;" never believe Oda when he says he didn't give something much thought, an afterthought for Oda is a weeks worth of consideration for the laymen considering an author's frame lol
I guarantee zero people have put this much thought into Killer's fate. Hell, I doubt anyone's ever even thought about Killer's fate for more than 2 minutes. But yet here we are, about to embark upon a deep, intricate 20 minute analysis. Gotta love Mr Morj.
Kidd leading the supernova like he's the luffy of them is CRAZY LMAOO DEPOSITION OF A KING HUH?! That...is actually really good Not to even mention the magnetisim
There is no way The Kidd pirates could’ve survived both Shanks & Kaido AND Escape big moms territory with Kidd & Killer the only ones being able to do anything.. they can’t be fodder
kidd just destroyed some big mom ships, that's how hard to do. we don't know how they faced against shanks, he took an L to kaido. none of the other crew seemed to do anything against kaido
@@asianpersuasion4901 Kidd also defeated someone in big moms territory & stole something from her. & again.. the fact that they survived against 3 Yonko proves they can’t be weaklings
@@clydu91 you lot do all these mental gymnastics just to diminish Kidd... If he injured him & took what he wanted to take then guess what?? he beat them
If this is right they HAVE to be called the supernova pirates. That would be so sick. It’d be like rocks crew of the new gen. A bunch of strong pirates put together under one strong captain.
@@pashaputrasupriatna4596 ehhh I kinda disagree. Sure the titanic commanders are strong, and I do think Blackbeard has some connection to Xebec, but I don’t get the same vibe from all titanic commanders as I do from the supernovas. All of the rocks pirate members were not only powerful, but strong willed. A startling number of them have CoC.
@@zac6876 idk, maybe it's just weird for me think that a pirate crew that literally has a ship called saber of xebec, an island that was used by the former rocks and where the rocks pirates were formed, and just as evil and notorious as the rocks pirate back then would have been considered an equivalent of the rocks pirates in the new gen.
@@pashaputrasupriatna4596 The connection is there. Blackbeard is arguably the inheritor of Rocks' will, but that doesn't necessarily make him the equivalent.
So if Killer dies, do you think we’ll get a Killer/Kid flashback? I think it’s likely seeing as how Kid was always meant to be a huge important character.
I don't think Killer is dying. I mean come on this poor guy has went through enough. Being tortured, forced to laugh when crying and all that. Oda can't be that cruel surely.
as i was watching, i wondered if killer was supposed to have died already from the beginning lol but bc oda loves torturing us, he made killer this pitiful character for us and luffy so that by the time he finally gets killed, we'll be more teary and luffy will be more enraged
Need Ulti and Page One to join kidd’s crew after this. Maybe Ulti and kidd will start fighting big mom together after what happened last chapter. I could possibly see Hawkins and Apoo joining back up with Kidd leaving Wano.
yes I've had that feeling for a while too, they don't fit the vibe the rest of the beast pirates have, because they DO value each other where as the rest only care about themselves.
Don't forget Caribou! I think he might also join Kid. And if Kid gets hold of an ancient weapon that would make him a mayor threat, on par with the yonkos. Plus kidnapping Shirahoshi would give Luffy a great reason to fight Kid
Why do a lot of people keep saying Page One and Ulti are going to join Kid? 😅 Enlighten me what do yall see... I haven't seen them interact with each other
we dont know what kid wants def doesnt want any sons lol and we already have blackbeard. luffy has too many enemies lucci blackbeard koby akainu. kidd and luffy relationship is looking like shanks and mihawk
When you teased that Kidd's new crew was gonna have some supernovas in the mix, I got literal CHILLS. I hope beyond hope that this comes to pass, because if he takes the supernovas away from Kaido to form a new and improved version of the Kidd pirates that would make so much thematic sense. It feels too perfect with all the pieces in play for Kidd to be a captain of captains and it would definitely solidify him as the number 2 of the generation, right behind the king himself.
Wouldn't it make more sense for Kid to assimilate the leftover Beast Pirates after the War? They have already swore to leave after the shenanigans with Queen and they share Kid's punk and sadistic themes.
If you're talking about fodder like waiters/pleasures and even some gifters, i dont think thats what kids crew really lacks. But a mix of supernovas and tobiroppos joining him would be dope and give him powerhouses that could compete with the strawhats.
It would now make sense for him to become a Yonko if he ever defeats either Kaido or Big Mom, cause being a yonko means you need to have an influence or having an expendable crew. Cause, if your looking at Luffy. He has gained major influence from Alabasta, Ryugu Kingdom, and Dressrosa. And, theres also the Grand Straw Hat Fleet to where he formed a huge crew with an entire pirate captains.
Oda will definitely show the difference of taking two years to prepare as opposed to just going in...the strawhats were trained by legends and I don't think that's something u can just overlook
Nah I’m not seeing it, I feel like this is one of the common „take risks and never be afraid“ situations, one piece is a bit soft on that side, I’m also seeing chopper finding something to heal everyone who is suffering from the smile fruit
If Killer died there's no way in hell Apoo and Urouge will ever be part of his crew. He already wants them dead and will be out for blood against anyone that was a part of the beast pirates.
@@DAVAND23 it goes against capones concept and character to join kidd hes a damn mafia boss. kidd looking like hes gonna have straight dinosaurs in his crew. whos gonna rival zoro if killer dies
To add to this. Urouge seemed to be waiting in the balloon terminal right above Kidd, before Kaido attacked the Kidd alliance. Also Kidd said he went to Big Mom's territory to retrieve something and we know Urouge attacked them too. It's possible that Urouge was already a secret ally.
Kid doesn’t want alliances and his personality is very strong. But the thing about magnetism is “ opposites attract” so it makes sense he will draw people to come join kid for his goal.
I love this Morj. I would love to see this happen in the story. You’re right, it would be a very elegant way to bring relevance back to the super nova. Great video! Thank you for your hard work!
It’s so wild and speculative but if it’s all under Oda’s ultimate goal and we heard it here first, Mr. Morj I tip my hat off to you sir. I honestly hope this plays out the way you described it here
Okay hear me out. This theory as all the other New World storylines was foreshadowed in Pre Timeskip. How you may ask? Through Buggy the Clown. Buggy was introduced as Luffy's foe who was looking for a big Treasure. At some point in his journey, he and his crew were separated and Buggy was imprisoned. He only got out of prison when he met Luffy. Worked hand in hand with Luffy during the battle and because of that he impressed some other Pirate Captains. They joined him and by the end of the war, he had a crew which made him a Warlord. Though Buggy's journey was comical, it literally follows Kid's it by bit
I believe that even with killer having a 92% of dying, I still want him to survive to show hawkins that even a small chance is still a chance worth of hope
You deserve respect. It doesn't matter that some of your theories won't come true. The dedication and effort to read that much into the storyline and speculate for fun, risking the ire and ridicule of fanboys (most of whom are never as invested) takes courage. Keep these coming!
Add Ulti and Page One to Kid's crew. Next Ulti attacks Big Mom with no effect, Big Mom attacks back, Kid blocks the attack saving Ulti and because of that in some moment she'll switch sides and will carry Page One with her.
I think kid can grow into an even bigger and more powerful pirate, but he's too behind luffy to be his rival. 1- he's behind luffy in terms of DF powers, kid was utterly shocked by the power of gear 4th 2- he's behind luffy in terms of haki, way behind in all 3 categories. He doesn't have ryuo, he doesn't have future sight, nor advanced conquerors, and we still don't know that much about that, but it is possible that you first need to know ryuo, since conceptually they're pretty similar. 3- he's crew for the moment is really weak and simple compared to the strawhats. The supernova idea you presented is really cool in my opinion, i don't know how likely it is, but that could balance things out. (But definitely not apoo, kid would never want that 😂) 4- Luffy already has 2 road poneglyphs, and by the end of this arc, he'll have 3, while kid isn't even aware of their existence. 5- after this the main rival crew that the SH will have are the black beard pirates, i don't know if Oda would want to detract from that, to throw kid a bone. And if we believe what Oda said, then the plan was always for luffy to fight the jonko, and kid and the rest of the supernova were and afterthought in the moment (the best one ever mind you), so it's reasonable to assume kid was never meant to be a great rival to luffy, and that his time just flew past him. I personally see him as something similar to Shiki, to as a forced parallel, but in the sense that he's a great pirate, that fights the protagonist from time to time, but can never reach truly reach him. Great theory BTW, i definitely want to see more of him regardless of what I said.
A pretty dang decent theory, it'd be a nice way to keep some of the Supernova's relevant, as well as give Kidd some growth and well... might make me actually care about his character OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
I love this theory and the more I think about it the more it makes sense on how Oda could have constructed the other 9 Supernovas. From their introduction, they are already an inverse/parallel of the Strawhats. Luffy/Eustass "CAPTAIN" Kid Chopper/Law = "Surgeon of death". Doctor with an artic aesthetic Brook/Apoo = The musician & Brook had a relationship with the Longarm tribe JUST after Sabaody Archipelago arc Franky/Bege = Head of a mafia/gang as a one-man armada Robin/Hawkins = A gloomy person more interested in the future than the past Nami/X Drake = Orange hair child of a marine Sanji/Bonney = Man who cooks everything vs Woman who eats everything Zoro/Urouge = Strong tanky drunk fighter with themes of Buddism. I also think it was intentional for Urouge to comment about Zoro, "Doesn't look like the type to obey anyone." Usopp/Killer = Their captain's best friend. And Morj, if you're correct about your thoughts on these two characters' life expectancy by the end of the story, then they are destined to die. There are some other interesting parallels like both the Supernovas and Strawhats have just one Zoan-type user, or Calico Jack (Brook's original captain's namesake) and Anne Bonny (Bonney's namesake) real-life relationship. Some of these are a stretch, but let's give Oda a break. He only created all these characters at the last minute before Sabaody Arc.
@@deliciousdishes4531 he was discussing an alliance with them. Appo would have been apart of the alliance as well if he wasn’t the traitor. And the fact that they had a meeting about it in the first place should tell you that they were considering it, or already made up their mind. Hawkins is a logical person, if he didn’t see any potentially the alliance he wouldn’t have talked with kidd
I think Kidd’s going to have a major character development. He loses almost all of his crew, and he realizes that having a status isn’t everything and changes his pirate approach. I do want to see something in the lines of how not everybody is destined to be the Pirate King and that not everyone has what it takes to become one. Kidd would be a perfect example of that. That being said, I do like this theory!
I think my biggest objection is that for most pirate crews in the series, and in a lot of sports manga, most rival crews have few important members besides the leader. I think it's fine if Kid has nameless and unimportant crewmembers and that doesn't take away from being able to be Luffy's rival.
yeah basically the only other crew beside the Straw Hats who's really filled with important, interesting characters is Black Beard's. Maybe the big mom pirates. None of the others. Not even Roger's crew looks all that exciting!
@@walterholyfield3203 I don't even think Shank's crew is that exciting? Look at that group shot at Marine Ford. How many of these guys do you remember, and how many really stick out. The original main crew in the first chapter is iconic, yeah. But he has a bunch of fills otherwise.
@@deliciousdishes4531 I mean he has 4 important characters on the crew already and we haven’t even seen him fight, plus luffy literally said as a kid “ one day I’ll gather a crew every bit as good as yours” to shanks I believe that was kindve literal.
Killer dying has two big factors agains it: - We didn't see enough of him in comparison to people who fulfilled their role, like Hyogoro or Pound. - It's One Piece - 90% of the time characters don't die XD
How ever when they do AND we see the bodies they are fairly impactful (Whitebeard + Fire Fist). Maybe killer may have been created to be the same type of character....
@@misters6749 he didn't fulfill any role so far and his death wouldn't be anywhere near as impactful as the Marineford ones simply because he never got anywhere as relevant as them, dying here would make him just another causality in a raid and not a major event in the pirate world
Goddamn I'm actually early af. Love your analogies man. You actually take the time to really go in detail and don't actually use headcannon for the most part. Love your videos.
Very interesting theory and definitely keeps the Supernovas relevant instead of just fading into the background as part of a bigger alliance in the final war~ I feel like the Kidd theory can come true even with Killer surviving, which would serve as a catalyst for Hawkins, Apoo and others joining when they witness the power and conviction that Kidd and his first mate have, overcoming all the horrible stuff they've faced, showing they're worthy to follow! Just a thought!
Facts. Its wild, some people asking for mass murder in one piece lol. I know some people that think like 5 scabbards will be dead by the end of the arc
Oda has compared Wano to Marineford (even going as far as saying Wano will be bigger than Marineford) the only major arc where we had significant death of characters. And also death has been a significant theme throughout this arc. I'm not saying I agree with killer is dead, but I don't think it's a stretch to think some major characters will doe in this arc
@@Marshm3llow14 only that in Marineford, there was 2 massive death flags built up for hundreds of chapters before already. The question was just if Oda would go through with killing characters for once.
You had me until other members of the Supernova join Kidd’s crew. Even if Kidd fights alongside them briefly to fight Kaido, Kidd would never take in Apoo. Especially if Killer dies.
Had me thinking, too. Kidd would never welcome Apoo unless Apoo had a reason to betray them, let's say to protect someone or to protect the long arm tribe
Lol nobody is hating. Is just stupid making vidéos about people dying . So far he thinks all the 9 scabbard will die, then Law, then Hawkings, then some of Kaidos headliners, then Kidd or Killer and also all the citizens of the flower capital... In a series were at most we have 1 deaths and even 0 in most arc is weird thinking multiple deaths will happen. Is like he wants that one piece will transform into something that is not.
Devil fruits saying something about their user is more credit to the idea that Dragon has a wind logia devil fruit. As the leader of the revolutionary army he would literally be "the winds of change"
Given the ability you have at analising the story, no matter how crazy the idea seems at 1st, you have always convicing arguments to make me believe that it's possible!
My head-canon tells me that Whos Who could play into this betrayal aspect of the Wano arc if Oda ties him back to being a previous crew member of Moria who, at a decisive moment in the conflict, betrays his captain to side with Kaido. The result of this betrayal led to the death of the rest of Moria’s crew. The same chapter could also contain present-day Killer’s death, tying together the theme of loyalty and betrayal. I’d imagine the title of the chapter to be “Join or Die” or “Survival of the Fittest”.
Great vid, just to add to this: If killer does die, and a 10 chapter flashback is inevitably triggered, it might look something like the initial meetup kid has with the other supernova to form an alliance. Killer was constantly the level headed and diplomatic one in the room and the idea of kid actually "inheriting" this trait from his comrade would fit beautifully (I imagine a flashback to when they were kids or something would emphasize this a little better)
My problem with the Kid bringing the former captains together theory is that the setup isn’t really there. I think for Kid to successfully unite those former captains two things are needed: 1) Hints of Kid’s charisma; 2) His future subordinates need to be there to in Wano to witness his resolve against Kaido. But it’s a fun theory regardless.
Kid's personality and his devil fruit actually matches even currently. His magnetism can also repel which is fitting to his current character which chooses to push other away from him. But if he undergoes a major character development, then maybe he'll be like the other side of his devil fruit that attracts other. As it stands, Kidd does not need any change to match his devil fruit. He is already doing so and he still will be even if he goes down a development. In short, his change is still plausible but even without it he stoll matches his df.
Really interesting theory; from a plot development point of view it has a lot of sense, to be fair Killer's death leading a "new era Rox pirates" is something at least worth talking about, because that would bring to the WG 2 new threats after Wano, otherwise, all the pressure would be into the SH crew. Also gives an interesting tension between Kid and Luffy if Killer dies after defeating Hawkings but falling on Kaido's hands while Kid is holding BM cz that would be also "indirectly" Luffy's fault for not being able to hold/defeat Kaido when he said, "let everybody know I got this". So once SH's give the final blow to Kaido he would respect his crew power but can't be on good terms after that. Thumbs up for this thing mate. Genuinely interesting.
First , thematically we need to find out who Killer is. Either a celestial dragon or a downright Donquixote member , but Oda didn’t keep him masked for nothing Also magnetism is 2 faceted, Kidd also had very repulsive behavior, that could be beautifully juxtaposed with his own personal magnetism LMFAO man I need my own channel but I got no clue to create one smh
I like the idea of Kid getting a new crew, but for the supernovas to ally with Kid seems less of a crew, just a makeshift alliance. It doesn’t feel like Kid has an actual crew with that.
Every character that has truly died has advanced the plot in a major way. I don't think Killer's death would have the same impact as Ace, Whitebeard, or Oden. His death seems unlikely to me. Even more given Oda's history with "killing" character. But we'll see.
Kaido realising that beating Luffy is not an option, that he'll always smile and get over it, maybe is an indication that he'll use alternative ways to get to Luffy, such as attempting to kill his crewmates
Morj, I think you’re onto something but in the wrong direction. If we’re talking about Kid having a warmup crew until now, then just look at his ship to see what Oda has in mind for his main crew. Dinosaurs. If Kid loses his crew here, what better way to fill it back up than with a group of dinosaurs that turn their back on Kaido? Plus, with the situation that Page One and Ulti are in right now, if Kid saves the day by finding and stopping Big Mom before she kills them, they would be indebted to Kid. He could totally amass a following in this arc.
What do you think of the Ulti and Page one joining Kidd's crew theory going around, I think it could fit in with this idea, especially cuz they're dynamic is really fun plus they're both really Young.
Yo, what if killer actually beats Hawkins to inspire him, but he still ends up dying by the hands of kaido or big mom? Hawkins gains respect for the Kidd pirates + a backbone AND the 92% thing still pans out along with all the stuff Morj is saying
this theory looks promising though especially since most of the supernovas crews are either crewless now(bonnie, apoo, hawkins) or just fodder without their captain(capone, urouge, even law to some extent), with xdrake being the wildcard who could go in any direction depending upon whether his cover is blown or not
I feel that Kidd as a character was depicted to be someone who is not trusting other pirates easily anymore - especially Hawkins and Apoo. Does it really make sense if Kidd looses his most trustworthy comrade he goes like „Then I just recruit the two traitors!“? Feels totally off to me. Regarding Killer not having a devil fruit. It seems to be rather a parallel to Zoro instead of laziness. I think the laziness on Oda‘s part is more about Killer‘s name and design. I still don’t think he is dying, but that is just my opinion (as everything else in my comment). Let’s see what happens.
Here's how I see it. Killer ate that smile fruit and now he can't show remorse. We've only scratched the surface of how tragic that could be. If Kid is on the brink of death and gets beat by Kaido or Big Mom, Killer might go after them in revenge. I would hope we might get a little kid/Killer flashback to make the situation even more tragic. Then Killer gets killed and Kid gets enraged, his haki blooms, and he defeats one of the yonkou.
going from killer to killed, now thats character development
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"They started calling him 'the Killed Killer.'"
"Huh? Isn't that his name?"
"No, it's Kille D. Killer"
“For fun. For fun. For fun.”
Translation: The one piece fanboys are scary. Please don’t crucify me. Please, I’m a human being.
Fanboy for life😂
That's definitely what I heard when he said "For fun" 3x 😂
Morj: 'For fun. For fun.'
Fanboys: 'We don't do that here.'
@@carlbig1 Good thing you do not check out new comments instead of top rated, already some toxicity can be seen there.
@@bartiz12 Yeah I agree
The raid failing... and now this. I really feel like Mr. Morj is the true villain of One Piece.
I dont think the raid will fail. What the fuck will happen next?
Now I will go watch his video discussing why the raid ends. I'll edit this comment with my thoughts after that
I still dont think the raid will end in failure. Theres a possibility but honestly I dont see how things will go further if the raid does fail though. I agree with his points of tragic moments of heavy failure in prior arcs but I dont agree with the fact
Nah that’s Drizzt job
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Morj has very convincing points for his theories
@@kawiianimekitty7472 He likes to make bullsh*t Theories(that are well thought out but farfetched that Many times are proven true Because Oda also likes farfetched ideas)Its not his first time
You know the fandom is toxic when you have to clarify your theory is just for fun at least 4-5 times
revolutionary ideas are treated with disdain because they shake up beliefs people have held to be true for years.
Could be worse, the Naruto, AOT, TG, and BnH are a headache
@@stormer1446 boku no hero in particular, holy shit they're some toxic mofos, their toxicity just drives me away from the series completely.
@@eVill420 The be sending death threats to the creator all the time due to their yaoi ships not being canon.
Stormer144 that never happened bruh, stop believing shit in the internet
That's a fun devil fruit game. I have one: Foxy has the slow fruit because he slowed down the story to give people a breather before Enies Lobby.
anime foxy also made the game last longer by adding more rounds
I'm 100% convinced the only reason that arc exists was to set a precedent for when we get the real Davy Back Fight between the Straw Hats and the Red Haired Pirates.
@@YetiCoolBrother It also definitely serves a purpose to show us more of the culture of the pirate world, since we really didn't get to see any of that in Skypeia or Enies Lobby.
And also because Foxy is a clever idiot
After his conquerer's haki theory I really can't ignore what he says
This is more along the raid will end in failure theory
@@unknownvariable9239 same as the conqueror's theory, actually.
@@PiecefulKaos Killer’s death would be... fun? To u?
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@@PiecefulKaos I wonder how Appoo would ever join him and how Kid would ever accept him tough...
Kidd is the rival that is 1 step behind and BB is the rival that is 1 step ahead.
Yo Galaxy have you seen the stream interactions between Morj and Randy?
Damn, I like this. Great observation!
@@MarcoDToon say teapot 3 times and more will come
Good catch
blackbeard doesn't even have haki he's low diff
This one was definitely a stretch but it was fun hearing you walk through it. Well done.
Waiting for your next theory video
not even close to a stretch everything he said had a natural logic progression. This is a solid theory
Hahaha stretch is an understatement! but it’s an interesting theory, I guess.
If there are any A Song of Ice and Fire fans out there, this is a Preston Jacobs theory
I've been happily surprised by kid's behavior in the rooftop battle, being surprised by Luffy's and zoro's power, but not in a jealous way, being of support when necessary, observing the situation and after realizing that he cannot help against kaido, he immediately goes to deal with big mom, trusting the others to deal with kaido, and asking them to trust him to handle the situation and keep them separated.
ikr he's actually considerate and kind to those who have not wronged him
@@kimchiparrapio8942 What about all those innocent people he fucked with whilst gaining notoriety.
@@rindoubaka1574 they were in the way of Kid's goal, none of them knew Kid or he had interest on the weak. Whats your point? What changes what he said?
@@xReisk Erm... he said that he's considerate and kind to those who haven't wronged him... I pointed out that he actively hurts innocent civilians who haven't wronged him... it's how he got such a high bounty. I'm sorry but I don't understand how you could misinterpret that in any way...
@@rindoubaka1574 I understand what you said... If civilians opposing to a pirate's bad actions/intentions isnt wronging him, then how do you call that? Im pretty sure in the current One Piece World almost every pirate aside few are despicable persons generally speaking.
The critique "Killer is doing more than his captian" may be intentional and Oda is not only giving Killer more depth and hype so his death is gonna have better effect, but also keeping Kid down for now so he can show of maybe after that?
Makes sense.
May also humble him a lil too
I still can't understand how no one else talked about Kidd's magnetic power can be related to his character
Very few people think about One Piece in meta terms, trying to put themselves into Oda's shoes to figure out his reasoning and planning process. That definitely makes Morj one of a kind on RUclips.
Because he is a magnetic personality? I don't know about that...
@@peepeevs You didnt watch the video, did you
Don't forget that magnetism can also repel, not just attract. So that was one hell of a stretch on Morj's part
@@obi3924 I would actually say that it works in Morj's favour. Magnets can repel and attract depending on circumstances. If Kid, who is opposed to alliance, were to unite a new crew, he would change his metaphorical polarity.
Morj's second "theory" is interesting because i always thought it was insane how supernovas were thought of out of the blue with unique character design and abilities so it might make sense
"Odo gave devil fruit powers to all of the other supernovas"
Zoro: "Am I a joke to you?"
I forgot that Zoro is a supernova
Killer don't have power, and Urouge is not confirmed power holder for now
@@sohailsadaqat6684 according to the wiki, he has an unknown devil fruit that makes him stronger and makes his muscles grow bigger
@@sohailsadaqat6684 He has a power that increases his strength the more damage he takes.
@@mfdoodoo6951 I think ppl just assumed that he has power because anything people can't explain usually comes as DF ability, He could have some kind of ability like Kumadori where he could enhance his muscles, not saying it is that but officially its not confirmed if he has DF ability
A couple things worth mentioning:
Killer's name might have been Oda being lazy, but the rest of the character isn't. Killer was specifically introduced with a mask not because Oda was lazy with his design, but because Oda always intended on having him eat a S.M.I.L.E. If the readers know what Killer looks like without his mask, it would ruin the twist; so this is likely why he obscured it. We can also speculate that this is the reason why Killer is the only supernova without a Devil Fruit; he wouldn't be able to eat a S.M.I.L.E. if he already had powers. Plus, we know Oda had the concept of S.M.I.L.E. planed in Sabaody because we have an exchange between Doffy and Disco (the former slave house owner) where Doffy exclaims that the slave trade is old and "smiles" are in. Additionally, I forget when this happened (this was either during the timeskip or leading up to Wano) but Oda stated in an interview that one of the things he was looking forward to drawing was Killer without his mask, which we now know was because of the reveal of him eating a S.M.I.L.E. So I wouldn't call Oda "lazy" with Killer's character concept, just lazy with his name. The direction he was planned to go was more or less planned out from the start.
That said, I do find it interesting that both Apoo and Hawkins fit Kid's crew design of gothic punk rock; Apoo because of his fruit and Hawkins because of his gothic horror theme. Granted, this was a connection Oda might have realized down the line, given that I always expected Apoo to be one of the Supernovas he figured would "drop out" post-timeskip, but out of the 7 remaining captains, those 2 are the best fit.
Even his name can be tied together with his laugh as rock music reference as others have pointed out before, so even if his name is lazy oda still put some thought into it throughout the process of making these past hundreds of chapters
Nice points. I also don't believe Killer will die. He will be important later. There's another reason why Oda hide his face, maybe he belong to Third Eye Tribe.
Psycho Killer is the name of the song he's inspired from. Even has his laugh fafafafafafa
Also as Kidd is a rival to Luffy, Killer could be a rival to Zoro, that's why probably he doesn't have a devil fruit. Zoro and killer are the only supernovas without a devil's fruit. Of course Zoro is stronger than Killer but Oda probably will want to show the grow-up in Kidd's crew
This matches up good but do you really think he thought that far ahead he was introduced in like 2008
You can’t forget the other half of magnesium which is repealing others. He should be polarizing you either love him or hate him
Wow, that makes even more sense with Kidd's current anti-alliance attitude and with potential change of it.
@@bartiz12 you could say that Kidd is a..... *polarizing* character
@krispy kreme yah I saw that after a few comments
i think kid, in some way, would save the other supernovas, apoo and hawkins, but i dont think its fitting for his attitude to invite them to be his crewmates. but to make it still work, hawkins and apoo might make the initiative of offering themselves to kidd
Magnesium?
Killer is on a punk aesthetic pirate crew, with a laugh that fits the lyrics to the famous punk anthem psycho killer by talking heads, "Psycho Killer, Qu'est-ce que c'est, Fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-far better, Run, run, run, run, run, run, run away oh, oh, oh;"
never believe Oda when he says he didn't give something much thought, an afterthought for Oda is a weeks worth of consideration for the laymen considering an author's frame lol
Love this point
Psycho Killer
Punk anthem
What? I'm not saying there's not punk in their recipe but that's a stretch.
And a helmet based on Daft Punk
You're right
Since when is psycho killer a punk song
Kids epithet is also 'captain', which could be proof that he will one day be the leader of all of the other supernovas
I guarantee zero people have put this much thought into Killer's fate. Hell, I doubt anyone's ever even thought about Killer's fate for more than 2 minutes. But yet here we are, about to embark upon a deep, intricate 20 minute analysis. Gotta love Mr Morj.
to be honest I haven't thought about killer for more than two minutes in general not just about his fate
Kidd leading the supernova like he's the luffy of them is CRAZY LMAOO DEPOSITION OF A KING HUH?!
That...is actually really good
Not to even mention the magnetisim
There is no way The Kidd pirates could’ve survived both Shanks & Kaido AND Escape big moms territory with Kidd & Killer the only ones being able to do anything.. they can’t be fodder
kidd just destroyed some big mom ships, that's how hard to do. we don't know how they faced against shanks, he took an L to kaido. none of the other crew seemed to do anything against kaido
@@asianpersuasion4901 Kidd also defeated someone in big moms territory & stole something from her. & again.. the fact that they survived against 3 Yonko proves they can’t be weaklings
@@jetgatling723 He didn't defeat anyone there he just injured the person. Very specifically said to be "injure" and not defeat.
@@clydu91 you lot do all these mental gymnastics just to diminish Kidd... If he injured him & took what he wanted to take then guess what?? he beat them
@@jetgatling723 Now that I think about it..... where is his crew? We've only seen Killer with him in Wano right? Have I missed sth?
kidd is basically luffy without plot armor so one of his crew dying makes sense
Luffy's brother literally died?
How is he basically Luffy,we don't even know the guy...if u said BB it would've made more sense
So big mom will kill kid ?
@@RaffyDGoat and? He basically replaced Ace with Sabo
Plot armor is usually used because people refuse to understand storytelling. No , Kid is nothing like Luffy
If this is right they HAVE to be called the supernova pirates. That would be so sick. It’d be like rocks crew of the new gen. A bunch of strong pirates put together under one strong captain.
But we already have a new gen rocks pirates. The Blackbeard Pirates.
@@pashaputrasupriatna4596 ehhh I kinda disagree. Sure the titanic commanders are strong, and I do think Blackbeard has some connection to Xebec, but I don’t get the same vibe from all titanic commanders as I do from the supernovas. All of the rocks pirate members were not only powerful, but strong willed. A startling number of them have CoC.
@@zac6876 idk, maybe it's just weird for me think that a pirate crew that literally has a ship called saber of xebec, an island that was used by the former rocks and where the rocks pirates were formed, and just as evil and notorious as the rocks pirate back then would have been considered an equivalent of the rocks pirates in the new gen.
@@pashaputrasupriatna4596 The connection is there. Blackbeard is arguably the inheritor of Rocks' will, but that doesn't necessarily make him the equivalent.
Supernova are rookie pirates with over a 100 million by Saboady , why would they be called that?
pauses on 0:00
Realize that's Mr Morj every time the Raid gets a glimpse of hope
Dude kaido is fighting while lifting an island,the raid is definitely failing....round 2 will be in wano
😂😂
I just so happened to be paused at 0:00 when I read this comment and subsequently died
Now that Killer has defeated Hawkins...
F
If Kidd is actually the one who dies...
And Killer can only laugh in tears..
Damn that would be heartbreaking as hell😢
kindly, shut up
Oh, that's possible
Oda won’t go that far
@@SalamKhan-nr2em yeah, oda didn't kill pound
my hopes are not on the floor because they don't exist
I like how Morj can't resist to diss Orlumbus whenever he brings up the Grand Fleet XD
Hawkins: your 92% gonna die
Morj: well folks, killer is probably gonna die
Hawkins prediction never went wrong bro, even against kizaru, i also don't want killer death
Lmao worst part is you can't deny that's what's going on
So if Killer dies, do you think we’ll get a Killer/Kid flashback? I think it’s likely seeing as how Kid was always meant to be a huge important character.
!!! I hope so tbh if we get a flashback before killer dies means that he is going to die
If Hawkins kills Killer I highly doubt that Kid would ever let him on his crew
Yeah thats right but when kaido kills killer that would be another story
I don't think Killer is dying. I mean come on this poor guy has went through enough. Being tortured, forced to laugh when crying and all that. Oda can't be that cruel surely.
Oda: Heheh, hold my Nami figurine
he did say that marineford would look cute in front of wano soooo.......
The sweet release of death. No need to laugh anymore.
Ye and we saw Killer in Stampede
as i was watching, i wondered if killer was supposed to have died already from the beginning lol but bc oda loves torturing us, he made killer this pitiful character for us and luffy so that by the time he finally gets killed, we'll be more teary and luffy will be more enraged
Need Ulti and Page One to join kidd’s crew after this. Maybe Ulti and kidd will start fighting big mom together after what happened last chapter. I could possibly see Hawkins and Apoo joining back up with Kidd leaving Wano.
yes I've had that feeling for a while too, they don't fit the vibe the rest of the beast pirates have, because they DO value each other where as the rest only care about themselves.
Don't forget Caribou! I think he might also join Kid. And if Kid gets hold of an ancient weapon that would make him a mayor threat, on par with the yonkos. Plus kidnapping Shirahoshi would give Luffy a great reason to fight Kid
Now this is interesting
Why do a lot of people keep saying Page One and Ulti are going to join Kid? 😅 Enlighten me what do yall see... I haven't seen them interact with each other
@@alexsreels
but they might next chapter and given Ulti's personality i think she'd be good with kid
Kid ain't gonna be kidding around if Killer gets R.I.P'd.
The amount of thought and research that goes into these is god tier
If this actually happened Kid would make for an excellent parallel to Whitebeard amassing a big crew in comparison to Luffy with Roger's.
we dont know what kid wants def doesnt want any sons lol and we already have blackbeard. luffy has too many enemies lucci blackbeard koby akainu. kidd and luffy relationship is looking like shanks and mihawk
When you teased that Kidd's new crew was gonna have some supernovas in the mix, I got literal CHILLS. I hope beyond hope that this comes to pass, because if he takes the supernovas away from Kaido to form a new and improved version of the Kidd pirates that would make so much thematic sense. It feels too perfect with all the pieces in play for Kidd to be a captain of captains and it would definitely solidify him as the number 2 of the generation, right behind the king himself.
Wouldn't it make more sense for Kid to assimilate the leftover Beast Pirates after the War?
They have already swore to leave after the shenanigans with Queen and they share Kid's punk and sadistic themes.
Page One and Ulti also kinda fit in his crew aesthetically speaking.
If you're talking about fodder like waiters/pleasures and even some gifters, i dont think thats what kids crew really lacks. But a mix of supernovas and tobiroppos joining him would be dope and give him powerhouses that could compete with the strawhats.
It would now make sense for him to become a Yonko if he ever defeats either Kaido or Big Mom, cause being a yonko means you need to have an influence or having an expendable crew. Cause, if your looking at Luffy. He has gained major influence from Alabasta, Ryugu Kingdom, and Dressrosa. And, theres also the Grand Straw Hat Fleet to where he formed a huge crew with an entire pirate captains.
But, i would still think that half of the Beast Pirates would go to Tama, just saying...
Oda will definitely show the difference of taking two years to prepare as opposed to just going in...the strawhats were trained by legends and I don't think that's something u can just overlook
i always forget that franky was lowkey trained by vegapunk lol tnx for reminding me
But they learned by the experience of going in and grew from there.
@@kimchiparrapio8942 Franky handling Sasaki pretty well. In fact it seems he’s not even using his full power. Franky close to YC level.
Nah I’m not seeing it, I feel like this is one of the common „take risks and never be afraid“ situations, one piece is a bit soft on that side, I’m also seeing chopper finding something to heal everyone who is suffering from the smile fruit
Really cool theory. It would certainly make Kid Pirates feel like an actual threat to the Straw Hats if this occurred.
If Killer died there's no way in hell Apoo and Urouge will ever be part of his crew. He already wants them dead and will be out for blood against anyone that was a part of the beast pirates.
@@DAVAND23 it goes against capones concept and character to join kidd hes a damn mafia boss. kidd looking like hes gonna have straight dinosaurs in his crew. whos gonna rival zoro if killer dies
To add to this. Urouge seemed to be waiting in the balloon terminal right above Kidd, before Kaido attacked the Kidd alliance. Also Kidd said he went to Big Mom's territory to retrieve something and we know Urouge attacked them too. It's possible that Urouge was already a secret ally.
Kid doesn’t want alliances and his personality is very strong. But the thing about magnetism is “ opposites attract” so it makes sense he will draw people to come join kid for his goal.
I love this Morj. I would love to see this happen in the story. You’re right, it would be a very elegant way to bring relevance back to the super nova. Great video! Thank you for your hard work!
I love seeing this channel gain popularity. Almost 1000 views in under 10 minutes. Crazy
It’s so wild and speculative but if it’s all under Oda’s ultimate goal and we heard it here first, Mr. Morj I tip my hat off to you sir. I honestly hope this plays out the way you described it here
Will the Teapot be the one to kill Killer? Stay tuned and find out!
Noo not teapot, whyyy!
😂😭
Okay hear me out.
This theory as all the other New World storylines was foreshadowed in Pre Timeskip. How you may ask? Through Buggy the Clown. Buggy was introduced as Luffy's foe who was looking for a big Treasure. At some point in his journey, he and his crew were separated and Buggy was imprisoned. He only got out of prison when he met Luffy. Worked hand in hand with Luffy during the battle and because of that he impressed some other Pirate Captains. They joined him and by the end of the war, he had a crew which made him a Warlord.
Though Buggy's journey was comical, it literally follows Kid's it by bit
I believe that even with killer having a 92% of dying, I still want him to survive to show hawkins that even a small chance is still a chance worth of hope
You deserve respect. It doesn't matter that some of your theories won't come true. The dedication and effort to read that much into the storyline and speculate for fun, risking the ire and ridicule of fanboys (most of whom are never as invested) takes courage. Keep these coming!
Add Ulti and Page One to Kid's crew. Next Ulti attacks Big Mom with no effect, Big Mom attacks back, Kid blocks the attack saving Ulti and because of that in some moment she'll switch sides and will carry Page One with her.
Like this
I think kid can grow into an even bigger and more powerful pirate, but he's too behind luffy to be his rival.
1- he's behind luffy in terms of DF powers, kid was utterly shocked by the power of gear 4th
2- he's behind luffy in terms of haki, way behind in all 3 categories. He doesn't have ryuo, he doesn't have future sight, nor advanced conquerors, and we still don't know that much about that, but it is possible that you first need to know ryuo, since conceptually they're pretty similar.
3- he's crew for the moment is really weak and simple compared to the strawhats. The supernova idea you presented is really cool in my opinion, i don't know how likely it is, but that could balance things out. (But definitely not apoo, kid would never want that 😂)
4- Luffy already has 2 road poneglyphs, and by the end of this arc, he'll have 3, while kid isn't even aware of their existence.
5- after this the main rival crew that the SH will have are the black beard pirates, i don't know if Oda would want to detract from that, to throw kid a bone. And if we believe what Oda said, then the plan was always for luffy to fight the jonko, and kid and the rest of the supernova were and afterthought in the moment (the best one ever mind you), so it's reasonable to assume kid was never meant to be a great rival to luffy, and that his time just flew past him.
I personally see him as something similar to Shiki, to as a forced parallel, but in the sense that he's a great pirate, that fights the protagonist from time to time, but can never reach truly reach him.
Great theory BTW, i definitely want to see more of him regardless of what I said.
A pretty dang decent theory, it'd be a nice way to keep some of the Supernova's relevant, as well as give Kidd some growth and well... might make me actually care about his character OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
I love this theory and the more I think about it the more it makes sense on how Oda could have constructed the other 9 Supernovas. From their introduction, they are already an inverse/parallel of the Strawhats.
Luffy/Eustass "CAPTAIN" Kid
Chopper/Law = "Surgeon of death". Doctor with an artic aesthetic
Brook/Apoo = The musician & Brook had a relationship with the Longarm tribe JUST after Sabaody Archipelago arc
Franky/Bege = Head of a mafia/gang as a one-man armada
Robin/Hawkins = A gloomy person more interested in the future than the past
Nami/X Drake = Orange hair child of a marine
Sanji/Bonney = Man who cooks everything vs Woman who eats everything
Zoro/Urouge = Strong tanky drunk fighter with themes of Buddism. I also think it was intentional for Urouge to comment about Zoro, "Doesn't look like the type to obey anyone."
Usopp/Killer = Their captain's best friend. And Morj, if you're correct about your thoughts on these two characters' life expectancy by the end of the story, then they are destined to die.
There are some other interesting parallels like both the Supernovas and Strawhats have just one Zoan-type user, or Calico Jack (Brook's original captain's namesake) and Anne Bonny (Bonney's namesake) real-life relationship. Some of these are a stretch, but let's give Oda a break. He only created all these characters at the last minute before Sabaody Arc.
You forgot how Kidd got a few of the supernova to join him for an alliance. That also would make sense for the other supernova to join him
Wasn't it more like he was going to talk with Hawkins about it, and Apoo then also was there? It's not really like Kidd really drew them or anything
@@deliciousdishes4531 he was discussing an alliance with them. Appo would have been apart of the alliance as well if he wasn’t the traitor. And the fact that they had a meeting about it in the first place should tell you that they were considering it, or already made up their mind. Hawkins is a logical person, if he didn’t see any potentially the alliance he wouldn’t have talked with kidd
Actually it was Killer who called the meeting. And the alliance wasn't official yet as it was cut short by Kaido
I think Kidd’s going to have a major character development. He loses almost all of his crew, and he realizes that having a status isn’t everything and changes his pirate approach.
I do want to see something in the lines of how not everybody is destined to be the Pirate King and that not everyone has what it takes to become one. Kidd would be a perfect example of that. That being said, I do like this theory!
My spidey senses were tingling about a new morj video and i see one was posted a minute ago. Cheers, mate
I love the quality of your videos man, Good going :)
Videos like these build a good atmosphere in the community.
I think my biggest objection is that for most pirate crews in the series, and in a lot of sports manga, most rival crews have few important members besides the leader. I think it's fine if Kid has nameless and unimportant crewmembers and that doesn't take away from being able to be Luffy's rival.
yeah basically the only other crew beside the Straw Hats who's really filled with important, interesting characters is Black Beard's. Maybe the big mom pirates. None of the others. Not even Roger's crew looks all that exciting!
@@deliciousdishes4531 shanks but yea that’s rlly it
@@walterholyfield3203 I don't even think Shank's crew is that exciting? Look at that group shot at Marine Ford. How many of these guys do you remember, and how many really stick out. The original main crew in the first chapter is iconic, yeah. But he has a bunch of fills otherwise.
@@deliciousdishes4531 I mean he has 4 important characters on the crew already and we haven’t even seen him fight, plus luffy literally said as a kid “ one day I’ll gather a crew every bit as good as yours” to shanks I believe that was kindve literal.
Killer dying has two big factors agains it:
- We didn't see enough of him in comparison to people who fulfilled their role, like Hyogoro or Pound.
- It's One Piece - 90% of the time characters don't die XD
How ever when they do AND we see the bodies they are fairly impactful (Whitebeard + Fire Fist).
Maybe killer may have been created to be the same type of character....
@@misters6749 he didn't fulfill any role so far and his death wouldn't be anywhere near as impactful as the Marineford ones simply because he never got anywhere as relevant as them, dying here would make him just another causality in a raid and not a major event in the pirate world
Goddamn I'm actually early af. Love your analogies man. You actually take the time to really go in detail and don't actually use headcannon for the most part. Love your videos.
Very interesting theory and definitely keeps the Supernovas relevant instead of just fading into the background as part of a bigger alliance in the final war~
I feel like the Kidd theory can come true even with Killer surviving, which would serve as a catalyst for Hawkins, Apoo and others joining when they witness the power and conviction that Kidd and his first mate have, overcoming all the horrible stuff they've faced, showing they're worthy to follow! Just a thought!
I don't understand why in a series where people never die, people are always thinking that someone is going to die lol
yep, Oda constantly goes out of his way to make people not die. It doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, Oda doesn't like killing characters.
Facts. Its wild, some people asking for mass murder in one piece lol. I know some people that think like 5 scabbards will be dead by the end of the arc
Oda has compared Wano to Marineford (even going as far as saying Wano will be bigger than Marineford) the only major arc where we had significant death of characters. And also death has been a significant theme throughout this arc. I'm not saying I agree with killer is dead, but I don't think it's a stretch to think some major characters will doe in this arc
Pedro, Ace, Higuma 🤔 if it's for a critical story reason Oda will do it
@@Marshm3llow14 only that in Marineford, there was 2 massive death flags built up for hundreds of chapters before already. The question was just if Oda would go through with killing characters for once.
Marineford - Death of Ace and Whitebeard...
Wano - Death of Killer and Law.
Me reading the title of a MrMorj theory: It's bullshit. Theres no way.
Me after watching video: hold on he might have done something
So basically you just summarized everyones thought process while watching a Morj video
You had me until other members of the Supernova join Kidd’s crew. Even if Kidd fights alongside them briefly to fight Kaido, Kidd would never take in Apoo. Especially if Killer dies.
Had me thinking, too. Kidd would never welcome Apoo unless Apoo had a reason to betray them, let's say to protect someone or to protect the long arm tribe
Already know it’s a banger
What you have described throughout the Big Mom matchup video, and this video honestly sounds like Shiki by the end of Roger's journey.
I honestly just want your theories to come true because of the fanboys hating on them lmao
Exactly!😂
Lol nobody is hating. Is just stupid making vidéos about people dying . So far he thinks all the 9 scabbard will die, then Law, then Hawkings, then some of Kaidos headliners, then Kidd or Killer and also all the citizens of the flower capital... In a series were at most we have 1 deaths and even 0 in most arc is weird thinking multiple deaths will happen. Is like he wants that one piece will transform into something that is not.
@@ramonavila3847 killer is as good as dead
@@SalamKhan-nr2em like ace
@@SalamKhan-nr2em killer is kid's ace
Devil fruits saying something about their user is more credit to the idea that Dragon has a wind logia devil fruit. As the leader of the revolutionary army he would literally be "the winds of change"
I like this!
This would be amazing. You should be one of Odas editors lol
Given the ability you have at analising the story, no matter how crazy the idea seems at 1st, you have always convicing arguments to make me believe that it's possible!
Kid might even get Ulti and Pay-pay when he beats Linlin
My head-canon tells me that Whos Who could play into this betrayal aspect of the Wano arc if Oda ties him back to being a previous crew member of Moria who, at a decisive moment in the conflict, betrays his captain to side with Kaido. The result of this betrayal led to the death of the rest of Moria’s crew. The same chapter could also contain present-day Killer’s death, tying together the theme of loyalty and betrayal. I’d imagine the title of the chapter to be “Join or Die” or “Survival of the Fittest”.
I like symmetry of this idea in what happened to Kid's arm - he uses his magnetism to replace what he lost to make something bigger and better
Great vid, just to add to this:
If killer does die, and a 10 chapter flashback is inevitably triggered, it might look something like the initial meetup kid has with the other supernova to form an alliance. Killer was constantly the level headed and diplomatic one in the room and the idea of kid actually "inheriting" this trait from his comrade would fit beautifully (I imagine a flashback to when they were kids or something would emphasize this a little better)
My problem with the Kid bringing the former captains together theory is that the setup isn’t really there. I think for Kid to successfully unite those former captains two things are needed: 1) Hints of Kid’s charisma; 2) His future subordinates need to be there to in Wano to witness his resolve against Kaido. But it’s a fun theory regardless.
Title: "Why Killer Might Actually Die"
Me thinking: maybe because he is not a strawhat I guess
Maybe this is why they call him CAPTAIN Eustas Kidd, because it will became a leader?
This is morj advance observation haki I bet this theory will also come true' 🔥the will of m😉
Kid's personality and his devil fruit actually matches even currently. His magnetism can also repel which is fitting to his current character which chooses to push other away from him. But if he undergoes a major character development, then maybe he'll be like the other side of his devil fruit that attracts other.
As it stands, Kidd does not need any change to match his devil fruit. He is already doing so and he still will be even if he goes down a development. In short, his change is still plausible but even without it he stoll matches his df.
Ok this wasn't convincing till that magnet part
Man I just wanna say u can convince me to anything now
Really interesting theory; from a plot development point of view it has a lot of sense, to be fair Killer's death leading a "new era Rox pirates" is something at least worth talking about, because that would bring to the WG 2 new threats after Wano, otherwise, all the pressure would be into the SH crew. Also gives an interesting tension between Kid and Luffy if Killer dies after defeating Hawkings but falling on Kaido's hands while Kid is holding BM cz that would be also "indirectly" Luffy's fault for not being able to hold/defeat Kaido when he said, "let everybody know I got this".
So once SH's give the final blow to Kaido he would respect his crew power but can't be on good terms after that.
Thumbs up for this thing mate.
Genuinely interesting.
First , thematically we need to find out who Killer is. Either a celestial dragon or a downright Donquixote member , but Oda didn’t keep him masked for nothing Also magnetism is 2 faceted, Kidd also had very repulsive behavior, that could be beautifully juxtaposed with his own personal magnetism LMFAO man I need my own channel but I got no clue to create one smh
to look cooler
Killer can also be a 3 eyed person
I like the idea of Kid getting a new crew, but for the supernovas to ally with Kid seems less of a crew, just a makeshift alliance. It doesn’t feel like Kid has an actual crew with that.
Killer is my fav supernova so if he dies RIPPPPP and he got the best drip outta all of them too
Same
He is goated bro
@@DaladDala real shit his MASK is saucy asf and I love the way he fights
I think rather than drawing people together, Kid could influence people to "take arms" (iron/steel) and join him against a common enemy.
Whether or not I agree with your theories, I just like hearing your thought process
Every character that has truly died has advanced the plot in a major way. I don't think Killer's death would have the same impact as Ace, Whitebeard, or Oden. His death seems unlikely to me. Even more given Oda's history with "killing" character. But we'll see.
It advances the plot for kidd
@@SalamKhan-nr2em i dont think oda cares for kid right now
@@gabrielanassivera7318 so why he is writing him in this big battle against yonkos if he didn't care
Maybe Kid has the magnetism fruit because he attracts opposites { Loses and Bad Luck }, and repels Positives { Wins and a Good Crew}
Dayum
Morj: "hey everyone"
Me: *gets convinced
Kaido realising that beating Luffy is not an option, that he'll always smile and get over it, maybe is an indication that he'll use alternative ways to get to Luffy, such as attempting to kill his crewmates
Others: Let's spread positivity in these times
Morj: So Raid is gonna End in failure and Killer is gonna die
Morj, I think you’re onto something but in the wrong direction. If we’re talking about Kid having a warmup crew until now, then just look at his ship to see what Oda has in mind for his main crew. Dinosaurs. If Kid loses his crew here, what better way to fill it back up than with a group of dinosaurs that turn their back on Kaido? Plus, with the situation that Page One and Ulti are in right now, if Kid saves the day by finding and stopping Big Mom before she kills them, they would be indebted to Kid. He could totally amass a following in this arc.
What do you think of the Ulti and Page one joining Kidd's crew theory going around, I think it could fit in with this idea, especially cuz they're dynamic is really fun plus they're both really Young.
Ulti doesn't even really answer to Kaido, how is she gonna submit to Kidd of all people?
If she has Conqueror's Haki and with Killer dying, more likely I think
Yo, what if killer actually beats Hawkins to inspire him, but he still ends up dying by the hands of kaido or big mom? Hawkins gains respect for the Kidd pirates + a backbone AND the 92% thing still pans out along with all the stuff Morj is saying
he still betrayed kid and wasted his time killer is going to kill hawkins and apoo
This actually makes a lot of sense. Really like this theory .
this theory looks promising though especially since most of the supernovas crews are either crewless now(bonnie, apoo, hawkins) or just fodder without their captain(capone, urouge, even law to some extent), with xdrake being the wildcard who could go in any direction depending upon whether his cover is blown or not
bro no way you predicted his death a year before the chapter came out
I feel that Kidd as a character was depicted to be someone who is not trusting other pirates easily anymore - especially Hawkins and Apoo. Does it really make sense if Kidd looses his most trustworthy comrade he goes like „Then I just recruit the two traitors!“? Feels totally off to me.
Regarding Killer not having a devil fruit. It seems to be rather a parallel to Zoro instead of laziness. I think the laziness on Oda‘s part is more about Killer‘s name and design. I still don’t think he is dying, but that is just my opinion (as everything else in my comment). Let’s see what happens.
If this ends up become real, then at least I want him to get a W against Kaido
Here's how I see it. Killer ate that smile fruit and now he can't show remorse. We've only scratched the surface of how tragic that could be. If Kid is on the brink of death and gets beat by Kaido or Big Mom, Killer might go after them in revenge. I would hope we might get a little kid/Killer flashback to make the situation even more tragic. Then Killer gets killed and Kid gets enraged, his haki blooms, and he defeats one of the yonkou.