I weep for the loss of the .44 Root Army. Perhaps the best looking percussion revolver of all time, killed off before they made enough for me to realistically get one :(
I really hope this series continues past percussion guns and goes into the early cartridge revolvers like the Colt 1871 Open top, there just isn't a lot of information about that gun online
This Elisha Root chap, before he went to work for Sam Colt, lived in my hometown. His house still stands. Also, Root was the model for Morgan, the character in Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.'
I bought a gallon of Ballistol because of you people. I hope you're happy. (Also it seems to work better than bore butter at cleaning my muzzle loaders. I might try olive oil with bore butter at some point in the future, also I found that paper towels work better than patches.)
Love ballistol before anyone knew the brand? Still! Do! from long ago about 75 or 76 so cal, with my fist Rem Kit Dicks BP Gun Works, block S, same st as Rockwell Downey at age 11, did passivation for all techs, and "I DIY" all my lubs, oils, and BP with passivations, or blueings, or electro platings? Still Love the WD! with? all, and any.
@@exothermal.sprocket I was actually thinking about that, but hadn't had any experience with it. I just know that they overcharge for the precut cloth patches in my opinion. I am going to try and grab some when I got out tomorrow, thanks.
It is 7 months since I watched my last C&Rsenal vid and I’ll tell you why. I discovered this channel about 18 months ago and I really enjoyed the detailed content but at some point I noticed I couldn’t fully constraint on the information given and realised it was because of the background music. I had watched many videos before I was consciously aware of the music but once I was, that was all I could hear. I don’t know if not having background music is a deliberate decision or if I’m the only one that found it distracting but I look forward to watching your channel again - without the music. Keep up the good work.
They released 3 Q&A videos 7 months ago one of them had a segment where they talked about not having music in the videos anymore. Will edit after checking which it was.
I am still trying to figure out what I am going to two with two whole gallons of Ballistol, plus a couple small cans too LOL. Anytime I watch an episode, I tend to go buy some, forgetting how much I have now.
I own a Palmetto reproduction with the same malady. From all outward appearances, I was hesatant to dive in and try to fix it. Your 3D modeling really helped me wrap my mind around its function. Might have a go at it after all. Thanks Bruno!
My local gun store has an original Colt Root in its box with most of the accessories for the low, low price of $10,000. Too much for me, but neat to see.
I'm familiar with a good number of the major types of black powder revolvers from this era/period but I did not know about this one! Very cool looking little piece and some delicate internals. I like it! Thanks you guys!
On the note of the hammer being an issue for pocketing, you're thinking of it in the terms of modern pockets, and not massive 19th century coat pockets. I could pocket carry a 1911 in my reproduction 19th century overcoat.
I use Balistol for black powder and mil spec CLP for smokeless guns. the Balistol does have a conditioning or "seasoning" effect that you really dont need for modern guns, CLP actually does clean better, but with Balistol, you wont have to clean the guns as hard when it's been treated and heated a bunch of times with it.
As to the disassembly issue, any attempt at removing the wood grips and soaking the entire revolver in solvent for several days? High pressure spray? As to the window, any chance a that small polycarbonate window insert might help?
Interesting Colt model. It might just be me, but I absolutely love the classic look of the "Open Top" design. I own a ton of reproductions, Uberti, Cimmeron, Pietta, so forth. And the closed frame models just don't really do it for me. I have several 1858 Remmington models (even with the proper adjustable rear sights), and I find the point of aim is completely off with those models. Whereas the open top (Richard/Mason conversion) are very accurate, points naturally, and feels great in hand. I really like the arbor design of the "Root" model. Unfortunately, the side hammer is a major turn off on a revolver along with that open window exposing the hand. That being said, I would love to get a re-pop of this model for my collection. Can you tell who makes it? Great Video. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving. God Bless
It's a button on a spring in a pit of carbon, and I suspect the screw holding it in is designed not to turn unless the button is depressed. Only way I can think of to fix that is to put a plate of known thickness over the other side with a hole in just the right place, drill out the bottom of that hole, clean it out from that side, tap that hole and put another screw in from there to give the hole a new bottom.
I put A LOT of work into getting an 1849 pocket reliable enough to shoot without endless CLICKs. The juice wasn’t worth the squeeze. I took the 1849 out to the range after a month loaded and carried around in a holster, took aim at a milk jug full of water, fired… thought I missed… took aim, fired again… pretty sure I missed again… and repeated through all 5 shots of .31 ball. I walked downrange to see the milk jug slowly bubbling from 5 very tiny holes. I probably could have literally done more damage wielding a pencil. That test ruined any plans I might have had to continue optimizing the 1849’s function. .28 caliber would be even weaker.
I found the repro to have a sloppy fit at the cylinder lock. Either a thicker lock bar or smaller hole where it comes up thru the frame would be more positive for alignment between chambers and forcing cone.
Interesting looking pocket pistol. It looks vaguely familiar. The side hammer feature and the rearward removable axis pin are familiar………..To the Allen & Wheelock 28 cal Pocket pistol I had the opportunity to handle while creating an inventory of a friends fathers estate. It was in the “scrap” Rock Island left behind after collecting the stuff they took to auction. It is non functional but I don’t remember all the details.
I dislike the short loading lever. I had a replica Colt pistol with a short loading lever so I made an extension that slipped over the lever to provide more leverage.
He did mention it, at about the 42:00 mark. Essentially the demands of the civil war kept them from switching to the "Root" model Army/Navy's they had planned. Once the war was over it's thought they might have been in the process of re-tooling for the "Roots" when the factory fire put an end to it. By the time they recovered from the fire breach-loading cartridges had taken over making the "Root" models obsolete. It's unfortunate because they look cool, I'd love someone to make "reproductions" of what could have been.
Seeing a topstrap on a percussion revolver just seems weird to me - I guess the 1860 Army has so become what one thinks of as THE percussion revolver that the lack of a topstrap seems to be what's normal.
I do have doubts about the system being less finicky on larger iterations on the concept because the Root carbine/rifle/shotgun were also a thing and they too apparently had a reputation for not being great. Still, I wish someone would make a reproduction of them so I could cut down a .577 caliber monster of a handcannon.
Lol "our modern reproduction doesn't work so we had to go with the 2nd best thing and use an original 150 year old pistol instead" very funny how quality will out!
I’m not sure if anyone will read this.. but does anyone know if there will be any more minutes with Mia? I see there hasn’t been any updated stuff for like 2 months now. Is it over? :((
What I want to know is repeatedly we see people who apparently have no formal education run factories and large organisations while finding time to invent not only things like guns but also the machinery to make them. The question is how? And how would someone who started as he did even know the manners and social etiquette required to deal with people like Colt. We see it in the UK as well. No one now would be expected to run a company without a huge amount of formal Education. Its like starting off in McDonald's and ending up CEO of spacex without going to a university!
Universities back then did not teach business managment or much in the way of practical mechanics. What was probably happening is men were “ working their way up through the company “ . A bright kid found a good mentor the next step up the ladder who taught him what he knew, those skills got the kid a promotion , rinse and repeat. Probably more complicated in real life , but the training was going to be on the job.
the fucking irony of launching an entire series for reproductions only to end up using a real original 1855 pistol for the shoot
The future was then i guess, old man 🥴
Fun fact, ballistol will remove stink bug stink from your hands if you accidentally squish one with a paper towel in your home.
I love ballistol
How is that not in their advertisements? Genius!
@@Lomi311I actually sent them an excited email about it but they didn't get back to me lol
Anyone who deals with stink bugs will know how useful this is. Boy, do I hate those things, a uniquely awful smell.
@@SeraphinaPZ. AMEN…they are horrible insects…they will make a cat gag 🙀🙀🙀
I weep for the loss of the .44 Root Army. Perhaps the best looking percussion revolver of all time, killed off before they made enough for me to realistically get one :(
I really hope this series continues past percussion guns and goes into the early cartridge revolvers like the Colt 1871 Open top, there just isn't a lot of information about that gun online
Glad to see that little headache’s episode finally came together. Such a slick looking gun for that era imo
While I have never cared for these, I have to admit that you are right about it looking very good.
I am very happy that Ballistol is sponsoring you, it's about time, in my opinion!.
This Elisha Root chap, before he went to work for Sam Colt, lived in my hometown. His house still stands. Also, Root was the model for Morgan, the character in Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.'
Was wondering recently when the next episode would come out and here it is. Brilliant stuff.
last time i was this early some nerd named samuel showed me this gun he made that could shoot 6 times before you had to reload.
Ha! Nerd! Everyone knows those new fangled "revolvers" will never take off...
Yep, clearly pepperbox pistols are going to be the future, just need to solve the chain fire issue! @@beowulfsrevenge4369
That’s a damn gimmick sonny!
I bought a gallon of Ballistol because of you people.
I hope you're happy.
(Also it seems to work better than bore butter at cleaning my muzzle loaders. I might try olive oil with bore butter at some point in the future, also I found that paper towels work better than patches.)
I haven't broken the seal on my gallon. Still on my second pint.
You must be extremely wealthy its very very expensive in the UK. 5 ltr cost about what I would spend on food for 5 weeks £25 a week.
Love ballistol before anyone knew the brand? Still! Do!
from long ago about 75 or 76 so cal, with my fist Rem Kit Dicks BP Gun Works, block S, same st as Rockwell Downey at age 11, did passivation for all techs, and "I DIY" all my lubs, oils, and BP with passivations, or blueings, or electro platings?
Still Love the WD! with? all, and any.
Shop towels work better than paper towels, in terms of not having paper lint left all over things, and they don't dilapidate instantly when wet.
@@exothermal.sprocket I was actually thinking about that, but hadn't had any experience with it. I just know that they overcharge for the precut cloth patches in my opinion. I am going to try and grab some when I got out tomorrow, thanks.
Roots are underrated. I remember that large .44 caliber versions from back in 2016. Very cool to see it so scaled up, but not as a long gun.
I love Reprocussion ! I hope one day you guys cover muzzleloaders of the American military. I would love that!
The accuracy was impressive.
Ballistol. Learned all about the pre-mix back with my first black powder gun and it made corrosively primed ammunition no-worries.
It is 7 months since I watched my last C&Rsenal vid and I’ll tell you why. I discovered this channel about 18 months ago and I really enjoyed the detailed content but at some point I noticed I couldn’t fully constraint on the information given and realised it was because of the background music. I had watched many videos before I was consciously aware of the music but once I was, that was all I could hear. I don’t know if not having background music is a deliberate decision or if I’m the only one that found it distracting but I look forward to watching your channel again - without the music. Keep up the good work.
They released 3 Q&A videos 7 months ago one of them had a segment where they talked about not having music in the videos anymore. Will edit after checking which it was.
@ Q&As are not really my thing but I’m interested to watch the relevant one, thanks
I didn't even know their vids had background music until people started complaining about it earlier this year.
@@ES90344 I don't think I'd ever noticed it either.
I am still trying to figure out what I am going to two with two whole gallons of Ballistol, plus a couple small cans too LOL. Anytime I watch an episode, I tend to go buy some, forgetting how much I have now.
I may die before I break the seal on my gallon. I use 10:1 pre-mix for nearly everything. It's particularly good for OTF automatic knives.
It's the best thing I've found for door hinges, doesn't seem to attract dirt nearly as badly as grease or plain mineral oil.
Need to get the wipes
I own a Palmetto reproduction with the same malady. From all outward appearances, I was hesatant to dive in and try to fix it. Your 3D modeling really helped me wrap my mind around its function. Might have a go at it after all. Thanks Bruno!
This one releasing finally reminded me I need to watch Reprocussion (which I did over the past week), looking forward to more of them! :)
Glad to see another episode in this series. Thanks for your hard work
Reprocussions back YYYYYAAAAAAaaaa
This is such a treat, i was in the playlist just last week looking to see if I'd missed an episode
My local gun store has an original Colt Root in its box with most of the accessories for the low, low price of $10,000. Too much for me, but neat to see.
I got some after so many people were recommending it. I was pleased with it too.
Reproduction episodes are my favorite, so happy we have a new one
I'm familiar with a good number of the major types of black powder revolvers from this era/period but I did not know about this one! Very cool looking little piece and some delicate internals. I like it! Thanks you guys!
After all the delays I'm excited to hear about Blorbo from the podcast
The black poops after Ballistol is the German things removing the impurities of my body
As always I greatly appreciate the work you do, and the insane amount of time you put into these episodes.
Thank you so very much.
I enjoyed these repercussion videos. Thanks for all the hard work it really does show in the production
The aesthetics of this are just amazing...
I should clarify - if this beauty was ramped up to a full size piece - I would buy one.
Excellent vid as always. I really am enjoying the Reprocussion series. Question, will you be covering rifles/muskets as well?
I started this series too late and watched episode 008 just yesterday, wondering when would come the next one, so this came as a pleasant surprise.
The only series where I actually watch Mae, the reloading is the most fun part
loading BP nitrated paper 44 and 50 chrages as "I watch this". Thank YOU SR!
I use ballistol on all my medieval armor stuff for the renaissance festival.
Well well, I just finished 008 yesterday and was sad not to seen 009, that is lucky
I drink pure Callisto ballistol every morning
same
Ballistol liver oil.
There's a meeting for that.
Wohoooo! A new episode of Reprocussion
Yay! My favorite employee of Ian Mcmustache!
I always loved that nightmare.. Root fan. Super review 😊. Be carrying a Remington in those days. Steampunk with the cam.
More then worth waiting for!
Very fine shooting, Mae! Regardless of how powerful that cartridge is, if I were that target I would not be in a particularly good move
I used Ballistal for the first time on my guns and I am very happy with it
I do love this series. Wear my Walker shirt all the time.
Excellent finally another Reprocussion! 😃😃
I think youtube unsubscribed me from the channel. Always heard of that but never experienced before now.
Happy thanksgiving
I need to get those wipes
On the note of the hammer being an issue for pocketing, you're thinking of it in the terms of modern pockets, and not massive 19th century coat pockets. I could pocket carry a 1911 in my reproduction 19th century overcoat.
Which, wild enough, the other colt pocket (1849) is about the same size as a 1911
Trivium: the pocket was originally a garment in its own right, a lot like military webbing belt and pouch.
I use Balistol for black powder and mil spec CLP for smokeless guns. the Balistol does have a conditioning or "seasoning" effect that you really dont need for modern guns, CLP actually does clean better, but with Balistol, you wont have to clean the guns as hard when it's been treated and heated a bunch of times with it.
Great Video!
Woot! Old time revolver goodness
Great vid, Thanks!👍
Oooh sponsors! Congratulations 🎈
Always had a fondness for the Root model.
Thank you!
Fantastic video as always! I hope they get to the 1861 Navy or 1862 Police. Honestly those might be the best guns to come out of the Colt factory.
Reprocussion is back! I was starting to worry.
As to the disassembly issue, any attempt at removing the wood grips and soaking the entire revolver in solvent for several days? High pressure spray? As to the window, any chance a that small polycarbonate window insert might help?
Interesting Colt model. It might just be me, but I absolutely love the classic look of the "Open Top" design. I own a ton of reproductions, Uberti, Cimmeron, Pietta, so forth. And the closed frame models just don't really do it for me. I have several 1858 Remmington models (even with the proper adjustable rear sights), and I find the point of aim is completely off with those models. Whereas the open top (Richard/Mason conversion) are very accurate, points naturally, and feels great in hand. I really like the arbor design of the "Root" model. Unfortunately, the side hammer is a major turn off on a revolver along with that open window exposing the hand. That being said, I would love to get a re-pop of this model for my collection. Can you tell who makes it? Great Video. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving. God Bless
How about a gentle flame to get it to come apart, just really light while applying a bit of pressure?
It's a button on a spring in a pit of carbon, and I suspect the screw holding it in is designed not to turn unless the button is depressed.
Only way I can think of to fix that is to put a plate of known thickness over the other side with a hole in just the right place, drill out the bottom of that hole, clean it out from that side, tap that hole and put another screw in from there to give the hole a new bottom.
I put A LOT of work into getting an 1849 pocket reliable enough to shoot without endless CLICKs. The juice wasn’t worth the squeeze. I took the 1849 out to the range after a month loaded and carried around in a holster, took aim at a milk jug full of water, fired… thought I missed… took aim, fired again… pretty sure I missed again… and repeated through all 5 shots of .31 ball. I walked downrange to see the milk jug slowly bubbling from 5 very tiny holes. I probably could have literally done more damage wielding a pencil. That test ruined any plans I might have had to continue optimizing the 1849’s function. .28 caliber would be even weaker.
I love these vids, and that is a cool gun!
I tried balistol because of c&r arsenal. I don't understand why anything else exists. Ballston for life.
I found the repro to have a sloppy fit at the cylinder lock. Either a thicker lock bar or smaller hole where it comes up thru the frame would be more positive for alignment between chambers and forcing cone.
Feels like eternity since you guys last posted.. apparently that's as long as 2 weeks.
Now, ask May if she would want to carry this into the trenches in WWI.
Interesting looking pocket pistol. It looks vaguely familiar. The side hammer feature and the rearward removable axis pin are familiar………..To the Allen & Wheelock 28 cal Pocket pistol I had the opportunity to handle while creating an inventory of a friends fathers estate. It was in the “scrap” Rock Island left behind after collecting the stuff they took to auction. It is non functional but I don’t remember all the details.
I dislike the short loading lever. I had a replica Colt pistol with a short loading lever so I made an extension that slipped over the lever to provide more leverage.
Awesome 👍😎
I had not realized how tiny the Root was, I assumed it was full size, I guess because of it’s shared blood with the revolving rifle
I am very perplexed why some of the roots good features didn't migrate to Colt's other offerings. Especially the loading lever.
The rack and pinion loading lever did live on in the 1860, 1861, and 1862 if I remember correctly. I’m probably missing something too.
The creeping loading lever did make it onto other colt revolvers.
He did mention it, at about the 42:00 mark. Essentially the demands of the civil war kept them from switching to the "Root" model Army/Navy's they had planned. Once the war was over it's thought they might have been in the process of re-tooling for the "Roots" when the factory fire put an end to it. By the time they recovered from the fire breach-loading cartridges had taken over making the "Root" models obsolete. It's unfortunate because they look cool, I'd love someone to make "reproductions" of what could have been.
Babe wake up, new Reprocussion episode just dropped
Cool little revolver. Was the frame the inspiration for the Remington 1858? Looking forward to your Colt 1860 episode. 😅
Send that repro to Mark. 😅
I dont know why but i find this pistol to be very astetically pleasing
If he'd just made it a six-shooter it wouldn't mater that the arbor wasn't directionally keyed to the cylinder :D
Black powder and Ballistol, can you name a more iconic duo?
I had never realized how good it was for corrosively primed surplus ammo till it was pointed out to me by a guy in my gun club.
Smokeless and Hoppe's #9.
You didn't bring up the issue of Roote's missing eyebrows ! Did he shave those off too ?
Oh, you know, you work with hot metal and potassium nitrate and sooner or later you lose your eyebrows.
They've been doing this for along time. Mae's hair has lightened from the jet black and now has a little gray.....as do I, now!
Seeing a topstrap on a percussion revolver just seems weird to me - I guess the 1860 Army has so become what one thinks of as THE percussion revolver that the lack of a topstrap seems to be what's normal.
I swear, when I started the video and I saw the first shot of the gun in Mae's hand I said "Awwww. That's fucking adorable!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looks so pocketable and kind of steampunk.
That’s adorable.
Where dd you get it? l would love to have one !
My inventor-brain is going crazy as always.
The "Secret Othias hand shake"?
I do have doubts about the system being less finicky on larger iterations on the concept because the Root carbine/rifle/shotgun were also a thing and they too apparently had a reputation for not being great.
Still, I wish someone would make a reproduction of them so I could cut down a .577 caliber monster of a handcannon.
Lol "our modern reproduction doesn't work so we had to go with the 2nd best thing and use an original 150 year old pistol instead"
very funny how quality will out!
That hand cannon is almost bigger than Othais.
I miss the old music in the videos
It's so ugly....I love it
Whoot whoot
I’m not sure if anyone will read this.. but does anyone know if there will be any more minutes with Mia? I see there hasn’t been any updated stuff for like 2 months now. Is it over? :((
Not over, temporary pause.
@ why?
Reprocussion!!!!!!!!!!!! It's happening! EVERYONE CALM DOWN
How long before Mark gets his hands and angel piss on that original to clean out the blind hole?
Time to go get a handle on Uri Tuchman. If a hand can be made then I bet he can make it.
I simple. Small pretty pistol. Click like button.
Who makes Root reproductions!?
Rare reproduction👍👍
What I want to know is repeatedly we see people who apparently have no formal education run factories and large organisations while finding time to invent not only things like guns but also the machinery to make them. The question is how? And how would someone who started as he did even know the manners and social etiquette required to deal with people like Colt. We see it in the UK as well. No one now would be expected to run a company without a huge amount of formal Education. Its like starting off in McDonald's and ending up CEO of spacex without going to a university!
Universities back then did not teach business managment or much in the way of practical mechanics. What was probably happening is men were “ working their way up through the company “ . A bright kid found a good mentor the next step up the ladder who taught him what he knew, those skills got the kid a promotion , rinse and repeat. Probably more complicated in real life , but the training was going to be on the job.
It's called America
Also people had the time for this shit because they weren't on a phone all day
@@chairzombie8378 "It's called America." So "America" means copying British patents, does it?