Zone 7b Food Forest After One Year - April Tour
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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This video is a tour of my one year old food forest. I am located in central North Carolina. I have experimented with a few plants that have failed and some that have done really well. I will try to keep updating as the food forest changes. The list of the plants that I could think of is below. If you have any suggestions, please add it to the comments.
PERRENIAL AND ANNUAL EDIBLE/MEDICINAL IN MY FOOD FOREST THAT I MENTION (Kind of in the order that I mention them)
These do not include vegetables growing in my “raised bed kitchen garden”.
Golden Oregano
Nasturtium- Dwarf Jewel Mix, Orchid, Tall Trailing, Tip Top Alaska Salmon, Bloody Mary
Strawberry Spinach
Borage
Marigold - Happy Days mix, Orange Hawaii
Strawberries - Can’t recall the varieties
Lovage
Common Sage (salvia officinalis)
White Sage (salvia apiana)
Red veined sorrel
Rhubarb (Glaskin’s Perpetual, Victoria)
Camellia -unknown variety and Camelia Sinensis (not mentioned)
Yarrow -Polish mix, Colorado Mix
Corn - Peaches and Cream, Glass Gem
Asparagus -Mary Washington Improved
Tricolor Sage
Eccinacea -Purple and White Coneflower
Onion (Variety, changes seasonally) Allium millennium is the ornamental variety
Peaches - Reliance, Contender, Red Haven
Marhsmallow plant (Althea)
Arnica - Unsure of variety
Zinnia- Cut and Come Again Mixed, Gold Medal Mix
Walking stick kale
Cold hardy Kiwi- Anna, Issai, Male pollinator(unkown)
Seaberry - Tatiana, Garden’s Gift, Hergo, Male
Anise Hyssop
Dill
Almond Tree - All-in-one
Tomatoes - Variety…Cherokee purple, Black Beauty, Abe Lincoln, Mexico Midget, my own hybrid experiments and many more
Lupine- Tall Russell
Lavender- Goodwin, Can’t recall the others
Apple Trees - Anna, Red Fuji, Pink Lady, Granny Smith
Thyme - Lemon Creeping, Garden thyme
Peppers- A variety - Paprika, orange bell, jalapeno, nadapeno, greek peppercini, beaver dam, ancho gigante…many more
Pineapple Guava Tree
Poppys - Flemish antique
Artichoke - Green globe, Purple of Romagna
Toothache plant
Blueberries - Can’t recall varieties
Hanson Bush Cherry
Carmine jewel Dwarf Cherry
Blackcap Raspberry
Blackberry -not mentioned Various types including snowbank white)
Flying Dragon Citrus
Feverfew…not Tansy
Figs - White Marseilles, (not mentioned- celeste, Olympic, brown turkey
Grapes - Himrod, Canadice, (muscadine-not mentioned)
Pears - Bartlett, Chojuro, Hosui asian
Apricot - Harglow
Elderberry - Johns, Nova
Montmorency Cherry
Persimmon - Fuyu, Ichi Ki Kei Jiro
and a massive native persimmon (not mentioned)
Honeyberry - Blue Forest, Blue Velvet, Blue Pacific, Blue Pagoda, Blue Hokkaido
Dwarf Morniga
Plum - Santa Rosa, Bubblegum
German Chamomile
Watermelon -Moon and Stars(re-seeded itself)
Santolina Grey
Nanking Cherry
Bronze Fennel
Pluot- Flavor Supreme
Pluerry - Flavor Punch
Cold hardy Pomegranate - not sure of the variety
I have had a few tress die on me- various raspberry varieties, Arbequina Olive, Honeycrisp apple, Maxie Pear Tree and a scuppernong grape and a few other I can’t recall.
OTHER PLANTS I FORGOT TO MENTION
Paw Paw about 8 trees (4 cultivated, 4 from seeds of cultivated varieties)
Mulberry - Gelato Red and another 2 dwarf everbearing variety
Winter Savory
Basil- Purple Opal
French tarragon
Huckleberry - Scarlet Ovation
Lingonberry
Rosemary - Arp
Lemon Balm
Goji Berry
Goumi
Sweetbay bush
Clary Sage
Aronia - Unsure of variety
Avocado from seed - Stays in the greenhouse
OTHER PLANTS ON THE PROPERTY THAT SNEAK INTO THE FOOD FOREST
Chinese Wisteria, Tree of heaven, Mugwort, and Autumn Olive - and lots of them
Thank you for watching this video.
Thank you for tolerating the production quality. I am learning, but am also excited to share everything that I have learned in the outdoors.
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Save Nasturtium seed by leaving the biggest blooms on. Let the seed pod that forms behind the flower turn light brown and papery. Then pull it off and open it. The bigger the flower the more seed you can harvest. Usually a good harvest is 4-6 large seeds per pod.
Store in a cool dry place over winter. Even in the freezer will be ok.
Thanks for showing! Greetings from Zone 7b south germany, started a similar project last year.
Here are some of the edible perennial plants doing well in my location (so far):
Ground cover:
- strawberry (highly recommend the everbearing mara de bois)
- cranberry
Herbs:
- mint
- arugula
- rosmary
- balm
- oregano
Shrub Layer:
- raspberry
- blueberry
- blackberry
- gooseberry
- juneberry
- currants (black one is great for jam)
- asparagus
Tree Layer:
- apple
- peach
- plum
- yellow plum ("Mirabelle")
- fig
- quince
- cherry
Canopy Layer:
- walnut
- sweet chestnut
Vertical Layer:
- kiwi
- wine
Let's keep it going!
That is a great list! I am in the process of adding a few more and I will do an update video.
Süddeutschland 😳
Ich bin leider noch nicht so weit (bisher begnüge ich mich mit meinem Balkon) aber deine Liste werde ich mir speichern. Danke.
Hi, from Northern Germany (Weserbergland, in der Nähe von Hameln) . Have about the same list ;) (minus cranberry, quince, sweet chestnut and kiwi (need to build something for the kiwi to climb on) plus (in no particular order):
Pawpaw, Asian Persimon (Kaki) Hazelnut, Josta berry, Hascap, Black Raspberry, Aronia, Japanese wineberry, Elaeagnus multiflora (goumi), Hosta /mostly cultorum and sieboldiana), Hablitzia tamnoides (climbing, perennial spinach), many different sorts of Alliums (every part of every allium is edible, according to Stephan Barstow (Around the world in 80 plants), sea kale (Crambe maritima), Crambe cordifolia, many different sorts of Campanula (all edible), good king henry, different sorts of daylili and several more herbs and "weeds" that are edible (like creeping charly) :D
Also LOADS of perennial flowers for pollinating insects like asters, hellebors, spring bulbs etc.
I "managed" to kill some figs, pomegranats and passion flowers. Will probably try them again.
@@kh8529 such mal nach "Säulenobst" - da gibts unglaublich viele Apfelsorten, vier oder fünf Birnen und auch ein paar Sorten Steinobst (Gute Qualität hat Artländer Pflanzenhof und Grüner Garten Shop. Da passen ja vielleicht ein paar von auf deinen Balkon. Ich hab mir die als "Hecke" am Gartenzaun entlang gesetzt, weil ich in meinem Garten auch kleinen Platz für große Bäume mehr hatte aber bei dem geringen Platzbedarf gehen solche "Schlanken Hansel" fast unbegrenzt :D
We just moved to Greensboro NC. Good to see your food forest as it is at the beginning and to see how it grows from here on out! We have 5 acres of south facing slope ready to add swales to and fruit trees and more in this coming year!
I've been gardening in the boro for a few years now and we have such agood community for it!
That is a perfect setup. You will do really well there.
i find it very exciting to find cool videos that are 4 years old that meand hopefully i can watch the transformation. looking forward to watching how the food forest has transformed.
🙂
Very interesting to see a "newbie" and not only people who have been doing this for 10 years.
Right now I'm only using my balcony but I hope to expand in a few years when the money and a fitting house/garden is found. So I'm starting to learn and gather information.
Thanks for the input.
You can definitely do this! Thankfully we have the internet for a great resource.
BLACK CAPS!!! My absolute FAV! Ahhh, Gma's incredible jelly back in the '60's. 👍
Finally I found a 7b food forest! Please do more videos!!!
I'm starting back up and will do more videos.
The rooster was so funny. It’s like he became increasingly more dramatic after you acknowledged him haha. Thanks for the video! We just moved and starting to think about what plants we will add to our garden.
They know when we talk about them. Hahaha
Thank you for this! I'm in VA, and its been hard to see food forests that aren't either Florida or Wisconsin! I love the diversity in your garden.
For sure! I wish more people would do this so I could compare and decide what to add next!
mostly florida and arizona
7b here in north west Alabama. This is great content. Some of the bush varieties you have updated and shared taste testing are very helpful as I consider planting options.
Awesome! So glad I could help!
I finally decided to start a food forest. I am in High Point 7B. This is what I have been looking for. Thank you.
Good for you for making your food forest ALSO pretty. When we do that we catch public interest and don't come off as "crazy." What's nice is most of the time we can accomplish that appeal with stunning pollinators. I put in a Crepe Myrtle (Black Diamond) yesterday right at one of the front corners of my front yard yesterday. It won't make food but it will be a fantastic pollinator AND look spectacular. I'm looking forward to how it will grab the attention of the neighborhood drawing in interest to Food Forests.
I agree with you. Don't want to come off as crazy, but I will say it gets harder to maintain the aesthetics at times.
Hi Justin,,looks great. Im in southern Va, and coming into the third year of starting my food forest. I have mostly fruit so far for perennials. Blackberry, strawberry, and elderberry all do very well in our climate. I have a santa rosa plum and a fig tree which are going into their third year. Havent produced yet but getting clos (hopefully). Thanks for sharing what your doing !!
Elderberry has done well for me, blackberries have a promising future for me here too and blueberries do well with our acidic soil. I have heard a lot of good things about santa rosa plums and I hope to add one or two this year. You should look into gooseberry, jostaberry and currants for lower layer fruiting shrubs, if you haven't already. We can't have them here, but VA can.
Thanks for this video Justin, I'm just east of Greensboro and am in the making of my food forest this year. So far just some fruit trees and berry bushes.
There is someone in Mebane that I met doing some volunteer work and they were growing Kiwi, it look amazing had vined out on a grape trellise, LOTS OF FRUIT!
Awesome to hear! I will likely be starting a foodforest out that way soon!
Hi Justin. I’m in the Piedmont area of NC also. So happy to have found your videos. Just beginning to garden. My neighbor and I build a wonderful greenhouse last year and we are loving it. Looking forward to watching your channel.
Awesome. A greenhouse can really be a great tool. I just put up another update of my garden.
I live in USD 7 b as well you are right there is not enough info for our zone on food forest.
Im going to keep experimenting until I learn as much as possible about this zone.
You can prune your fruits trees to stay small. You make the initial cut about knee high on the trunk in the. Summer, then again several more times over the first three years. But you shape them and keep them sized to hand pick fruit which is very convenient
Yes! This is such a great idea. I have done it with some trees, but not others!
I know I watched the newer videos before this one, but great to see the start.
I love the sound of the rooster btw, he made me smile every time he called.
Just did another video update!
Spanish lavender is a really interesting one too that you may want to consider. The blooms are much larger and a brighter purple ♡
I understand liking dwarf and semi-dwarf fruit trees. It is good sizes.
But a full size tree on a wild root just grows super well.
An apple tree like that will quickly have a good size and it will often be 100 years old or more.
You are correct. In my area, the soil can cause root issues if the tree is not grafted onto certain rootstock. Dwarf and semi dwarf do make fruit sooner, but also die sooner.
Thank you so much for making this video Justin! I agree, it is hard to find information in this neck of the woods! It'll be fun to follow your progress and see how things do for you! I've wanting to start a food fest but on a smaller scale to start.
You should start one. I got carried away and did way more than I was planning on. I will do an update video at some point.
@@justinthewildoutdoors Thanks for the encouragement! We do already have some apple, fig trees, a plum and a paw-paw. There are some volunteer raspberries under the oldest apple tree. Unfortunately, they are all in way different parts of the yard because of the septic field. I am thinking of moving some blueberry bushes near the fig tree just outside of the vegetable garden and it looks like my strawberries would do well growing closer to the fig!
Your food forest looks great already 👍 We're in zone 7b as well.
Thank you!
Great job!! 👍 Just subbed, Boise, Idaho, 7a, medium clay soil.
Awesome! Doing a new video update soon.
I just bought an All-in-one Almond tree in 7a. Yours will do just fine.
Nasturtiums self-seed easily. If you let some flowers (don't eat those ones) make seeds, at the end of season they will drop on the ground and next year there will grow a new nasturtium plant.
I have noticed a few random plants popping up, but I honestly think our birds get to the before the next season.
I started with blueberries, wintergreen and ilex vomitoria for states on a sloping terraced site that gets AM sun. May as for helps......
Blueberries and ilex doing OK, but my wintergreen keeps dying off. I am keeping it in a pot now to let it grow. Any suggestions?
My favorite grape was always the Concord....makes incredible juice but now that they have the Niagara, it has taken the #1 spot. Tastes like a Concord but is a touch sweeter. Grapes cross-pollinate, too but I don't care, either. I planted 2 Niagaras with a Concord in the middle to grow over a trellis.
Justin! this is just the content I've been looking for (being new to the game and from Wake County). Do you know any good local sources for learning the trade?
Great to hear from you. This area is very tough to find content for. I am going to try to put more information up on my channel, but I'm also still learning a lot. NC State extension has some info on general fruit growing for the state. I find that our climate makes it difficult to grow cold loving fruit bearing plants and heat loving fruit bearing plants. The high level of humidity and rain can also be a challenge. MillennialGardener is a great channel, but he is coastal NC, so his climate is a little different.
Perfect im in north Greensboro summerfield
Such a great area for grow food. You may have better luck with apples than I have had.
@@justinthewildoutdoors i got a apple tree and peach tree from Walmart
The hardy kiwi will take 3 to 4 yrs to produce. They are sweet and heavy producers. You would do well to put up a trellis, fence, or some sort of support for it.
Great advice! Ours looks amazing right now growing on a tight line wire about 6ft high.
Bing and Rainier cherry would be fine in 7b if you like a sweeter cherry.
I'm going to try to add these type sometime soon.
Very helpful video! I grew hardy kiwi in Cary, NC and it went wild, growing up into the trees above it. Delicious fruit. I'm now planning a food forest in Gibsonville, NC near Burlington and am fighting wisteria. Any tips? I fell I love with pineapple guava when I lived in southern California. Would love to grow it here if possible.
Cool. I grew up in Cary, in Chatham County now, but plan to live in Alamance soon. I try not to let wisteria stress me out too much because I will never beat it. But I have found manually cutting back in the fall does slow it down and takes away some of its energy. I just did another garden update video. Pineapple guava is looking great!
🙌 to 7B. Curious how your soil is and your sun situation. I see a lot of trees in the backyard. Are you getting full sun over your orchard area?
Love your garden/forest! I’m in Leicester with super rocky hard clay soil. I was wondering how you prepped your land? Thanks for sharing.
Hey! Just saw this question. I started with a brushy area that needed cleared. This already had some forest floor like characteristics, which was beneficial. I just started planting right away. I hindsight I would have covered the whole thing with cardboard and 6 inches of mulch and waited another year before planting.
7b Memphis just spread wood chips. Very encouraging with comments of others in this zone. My seeds are being decimated usually cats, birds, slugs. checking out nurseries to see if mail order here . tree and berry bush buying.
I have tried to use more local nurseries, hoping that the tress and bushes would be more adapted to our climate, but I have found that the quality of plant from places such as Stark brothers is just better.
You have a beautiful garden! How many acres do you have? Also how do red raspberries do in your area? If they don’t do well, you should look into wineberries. They grow really well in zone 7
Thank you! We are on 5 acres, but about 3 of it is heavily wooded. I have not had great success with my red raspberries. I have black raspberries that look promising and I plan to test other cultivars because I love raspberries. I will add wineberries to my list to try for sure. How does their flavor compare to raspberries?
The Granny Smith and Fuji will do just fine in 7b.
Yeah, I companion planted asparagus with the strawberries on a swale berm but I want more asparagus so will plant them along the other swale.
Sounds like a really good plan!
Greetings from across the Atlantic. Interesting video's. If you are looking for other species (berries, nuts, perennials, etc.). Have a look at species that grow in Belgium for example.
I will definitely. Thank you!
This is really encouraging:) I'm in TN on the 6/7 line and started our food forest and permaculture homestead this year. We have lots of blueberries, elderberry, raspberries, apple, peach, cherry, nanking cherry, pecan, hazelnut, and much much more. I started comfrey from seed and a seabuck thorn from seed as well as muellin and plantain. Have you tried chicory, chia, or flax?
Those are all great varieties!
I have not done any of those. I would like to though.
Speaking of chamomile, I thought my feverfew hadn't germinated and that the chamomile was taking over but then found out they look EXACTLY the same. Info said if you rub and smell them, the chamomile will smell more like a flower and the feverfew more bitter. So this year I'm going to plant the feverfew far away from the chamomile and put metal outdoor labels on them. 😁
I am horrible at labeling plants.
I have a toothache plant. Definitely needs to be kept inside. Transplant it to a pot.
They seed so readily that I have just been starting them from scratch each year now.
@@justinthewildoutdoors Well, shame on you. The food forest WAY is to plant once and watch YT videos. 😆
Lupine is LOOP-in. And when the Nasterium seeds (on their own individual stems) get mature enough to fall off at a slight prompting, put them on paper, well ventilated, till they're brown. Store in a cool, dry place (but not the fridge) in a paper bag.
Yes! I always say it wrong. I grew up eating lupini beans so lupin always rolls off my tongue that way. And I did end up saving nasturtium seeds that year. I don't know why I had never seen them. Animals probably got them before me.
@@justinthewildoutdoors I'm so glad to see you're still around! After subbing I went to your channel and there wasn't anything current. I was hoping nothing bad had happened. So thank you! for answering.
@@lesliekendall2206 no. Just had a baby and opened a very busy business. Im going to do more videos when the garden wakes up.
@@justinthewildoutdoors Congratulations and congratulations. And I look forward to the videos. 👍
Also in 7b, but just northeast of Atlanta. You grew rhubarb? Tell me how!
Just saw this comment. I have not had much luck lately. But on good years (not too hot) it has grown well when a tree or building is blocking the afternoon sun, like the east side of a building.
I'm just trying to start permaculture. I have a row of 5 well established blueberry bushes. Thinking that area migh be my jumping off point! It's grassy there. So should i bring in cardboard all around there and mulch?
Do you not have a problem with borer on your peaches? Unfortunately I think my mature peach trees might have to be chopped down :(
I think I am starting to get them.
I am in zone 7b and starting year two of my forest. Upstate, SC. Let me know if you’d ever like to get together and share experiences
Keep me update! Always interested in collaboration.
I'm in zone 7a, okc. Is there much of a difference between 7a and 7b
7a and 7b are very similar. The zones seem to change from year to year. I have found that the microclimates within your garden will make a big difference. You should be able to grow just about everything I grow.
Where do you get your bare root fruit tree from?
Hi! I get them from a couple places. TYTYGA nursery, Raintree nursery, one green world and gurneys are a few of them.
How did the apricot do?
The apricot has not grown very much, but looks very healthy. I have good hope that it will do well.
If you know how to root cuttings. I have a large collection that I can help you with, to grow your collection if you are willing to drive to sanford NC.
Absolutely. I may buy some rootstock for grafting as well.
Any updates?
Im thinking I will do am update when stuff starts to leaf out early spring. By then I will have added a few more trees also. Then I will be able to see what trees are still doing well.
I will be doing another update video soon!
@@justinthewildoutdoors great! Looking forward to it
I sub to you for later
Awesome